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All, A man I knew for the last 25 years as a dear friend and a fly fisherman passed away last night at the age of 68. This man survived the Korean War flying some of our best jets of that time and continued flying until medical problems grounded him. His main interest in life was fly fishing and fly tying.  When he could not find the materials he wanted for tying or fishing, he made them. He even defied the odds and manufactured his own fly rods and produced some of the finest rods I’ve ever had the privilege to cast. I know that many on this list were his friend and will also miss him. This list will miss his quips and comments. Whether you agreed with him or not, he did made you think. George, we will all miss you. In memory of George Gehrke, Karl Snyder — a friend

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In memory of George Gehrke, Karl Snyder — a friend

Friend or foe, from all I’ve heard, he was an excellent angler.  Tight lines George. — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply

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In memory of George Gehrke,

It’s good he was able to make it to the Henrys Fork Clave, and probably why he strived to get there. He obviously enjoyed himself there, and (for better or worse) enjoyed frequenting roff. My thoughts are with his friends and family. — TL, George. Tim

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – All, A man I knew for the last 25 years as a dear friend and a fly fisherman passed away last night at the age of 68. This man survived the Korean War flying some of our best jets of that time and continued flying until medical problems grounded him. His main interest in life was fly fishing and fly tying.  When he could not find the materials he wanted for tying or fishing, he made them. He even defied the odds and manufactured his own fly rods and produced some of the finest rods I’ve ever had the privilege to cast. I know that many on this list were his friend and will also miss him. This list will miss his quips and comments. Whether you agreed with him or not, he did made you think. George, we will all miss you. In memory of George Gehrke, Karl Snyder — a friend

Very sorry to hear that, Karl. No matter if the people on this list were his friends or not, I think that we all will miss his posts, for sure I will. Even if I didn

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<SNIP Good for you. Here’s a bit more. Don’t call a perfectly reasonable post by a valued contributor "horse crap" and don’t try to justify a clueless and moronic scold of same by citing every friggin’ fish you’ve ever hooked as your bona fides.

<SNIP Thanks for the support, it is most appreciated. Some things are indeed not worth wasting time on though, and I would hate for you to get flamed on my account! TL MC

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… I would hate for you to get flamed on my account!

Thanks for your concern, if I ever got flamed I’d be like SO devastated. — Ken Fortenberry

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… I would hate for you to get flamed on my account! Thanks for your concern, if I ever got flamed I’d be like SO devastated. — Ken Fortenberry

I don’t understand why this is even being discussed. With Ken’s mild-mannered approach to other’s feelings, I can’t imagine anyone contemplating even a slight flame. Tim (yeah, I know, I’m a fuckin’ moron)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – SNIP So I guess there’s more than one view  around here. Gary Oh there are lots of views around here. Big game fishing sounds very attractive, but it is unlikely that I will ever do any. Like some other things, bonefishing, or stalking flats or mangroves for various exciting fish. My back would in any case almost certainly not be up to it. I have enjoyed reading about it, or hearing various reports from time to time though. I fear dry-fly fishing is a much more sedate affair. Just as exciting and interesting in its own way though. I hope you get the opportunity to do some.

Hi Mike, you are right about dryfly fishing being just as exciting as saltwater flyfishing.  I remember my first trip saltwater flyfishing: 3 weeks in Grand Cayman and a lot of small tarpon to 25lbs.  As the trip was drawing in, I started cringing as to how I would be able to get back on terms with the 1lb wild brownies in my local stream.  Lo and behold,  after 20 mins on the stream I had completely forgotten the saltwater battles, as I was totally immersed in fishing the dryfly.

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… I would hate for you to get flamed on my account! Thanks for your concern, if I ever got flamed I’d be like SO devastated. — Ken Fortenberry

That

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – @mcw.edu: Kill file nuff said Was it something I said? Wolfgang jeez, there’s just no pleasing some people.    :( Dammit, Wolfgang, Larry said "nuff said".  Wasn’t that good enough for you, or do you need to be "nuff saided" a second time. Scott

Damnit Scott!  I just hate it when you forget a question mark.  It’s the thingie that looks like this (?).  Is there no end to this madness!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dammit, Wolfgang, Larry said "nuff said".  Wasn’t that good enough for you, or do you need to be "nuff saided" a second time. You guys better be careful. We could be dealing with a "nuff sadist" Tim     now, *that’s* funny.  i wish you’d cut this out.  sure is difficult staying pissed at someone with a good sense of humor. wayno

For a third time, dang it.  Nuff said! day in and day out . . . it just won’t STOP! George Gehrke "nuff said"

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Well, let’s hope he saved some of her hair for tying streamers? GG

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just buried my sister last week . Fishing is super I love it but Lets put things in perspective as to importance in  this life. that is the single most maudlin post i have ever seen on usenet. i regret your sister’s passing.  but it must be noted that you are too fucked up for words. awh

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I just buried my sister last week . Fishing is super I love it but Lets put things in perspective as to importance in  this life.

        that is the single most maudlin post i have ever seen on usenet.         i regret your sister’s passing.  but it must be noted that you are too fucked up for words. awh

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If you dont agree with someone fine My whole point was you dont need to call someone fucked up, stupid , asshole or what ever if they dont agree with you. Its just that simple. I choose to ignore people who do Some people go through life doing this. Life is to short. Look for the good  you wont find it by telling others they are fucked ,twit or what ever  because they dont agree with you. I want other people opinions . A person cant live enough life times to gain the wisdom  available  from others. Im actually  a very easy going laid back person — Fly Fisherman With a Fur less Naked Cat named Dub

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I guess Bill Gates is wrong. I used spell check to verify my signature. Is it possible for Microsoft to make a mistake? — Fly Fisherman With a Fur less Naked Cat named Dub

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Dont you just love the pissing contest? Its just fishing Everyone needs to get a life and enjoy the sport. Relax!  Life is to short. As a newbie I appreciate all  the information I can get. I will then make my decision on other opinions ignorant and un creditable My 2 cents worth — Fly Fisherman With a Fur less Naked Cat named Dub

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dont you just love the pissing contest? Its just fishing Everyone needs to get a life and enjoy the sport. Relax!  Life is to short. As a newbie I appreciate all  the information I can get. I will then make my decision on other opinions ignorant and un creditable My 2 cents worth — Fly Fisherman With a Fur less Naked Cat named Dub

Line forms on the left.  No pushing, shoving, or cutting.  Please have your ticket ready. Scott

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Dont you just love the pissing contest? Its just fishing Everyone needs to get a life and enjoy the sport. Relax!  Life is to short. As a newbie I appreciate all  the information I can get. I will then make my decision on other opinions ignorant and un creditable My 2 cents worth — Fly Fisherman With a Fur less Naked Cat named Dub

FURLESS IS ONE WORD YOU INSUFFERABLE TWIT! Wolfgang that enough information for ya?

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Dont you just love the pissing contest?

Actually, yes. I just don’t like it when it hits me. Its just fishing Everyone needs to get a life and enjoy the sport. Relax!  Life is to short.

Screw off! Don’t tell ME what to do!       (must relax, must relax. . . ) As a newbie I appreciate all  the information I can get. I will then make my decision on other opinions ignorant and un creditable

Uh, ’scuse me, but I don’t think "un" is a word. I wouldn’t say anything normally, but, hey, we’re discussing ignorance here. My 2 cents worth

Tim here’s your change

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dont you just love the pissing contest? Its just fishing Everyone needs to get a life and enjoy the sport. Relax!  Life is to short. As a newbie I appreciate all  the information I can get. I will then make my decision on other opinions ignorant and un creditable My 2 cents worth — Fly Fisherman With a Fur less Naked Cat named Dub FURLESS IS ONE WORD YOU INSUFFERABLE TWIT!

WOLF GANG is TWO WORDS YOU DUMB FUCK! George Gehrke "or is that WolfPack?"

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FURLESS IS ONE WORD YOU INSUFFERABLE TWIT! WOLF GANG is TWO WORDS YOU DUMB FUCK! George Gehrke

Not usually one to condone scatology, but, in the meantime, SIC’EM, George! By the bye, what’s the diffference between ignorance & stupidity? Yours in the north Maine woods, Pete Hilton aka The Ent — A person is free only in the freedom of other persons.   W. Berry

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FURLESS IS ONE WORD YOU INSUFFERABLE TWIT! WOLF GANG is TWO WORDS YOU DUMB FUCK! George Gehrke Not usually one to condone scatology, but, in the meantime, SIC’EM, George!

Well, let’s see now.  I am reviled by the most despised and least literate buffoon on this news group, and from all reports on others as well, who is by now so drunk he probably can’t stand up (yep, look at the patterns), and who is, to put it as simply as possible, wrong as always, and he is cheered on by a guy who thinks he is a talking tree. Oh yeah, I’m all tore up.     By the bye, what’s the diffference between ignorance & stupidity?

The ignorant have not yet encountered a particularly loathsome piece of offal named George.  The stupid support him. Yours in the north Maine woods, Pete Hilton aka The Ent — A person is free only in the freedom of other persons.   W. Berry

Wolfgang he can never be free who allows aphorisms to think for him.

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The humor eluded you, which is understandable because you cut out the signature punch line. oh well? George "understanding he’s misunderstood"

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I think everyone missed the main issue here . . . WADDA YA MEAN its JUST fishing????  Man, it’s FISHING we’re talking about here!! MikeS

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dont you just love the pissing contest? Its just fishing Everyone needs to get a life and enjoy the sport. Relax!  Life is to short. As a newbie I appreciate all  the information I can get. I will then make my decision on other opinions ignorant and un creditable My 2 cents worth — Fly Fisherman With a Fur less Naked Cat named Dub

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I just buried my sister last week . Fishing is super I love it but Lets put things in perspective as to importance in  this life. — Fly Fisherman With a Fur less Naked Cat named Dub

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Kill file nuff said — Fly Fisherman With a Fur less Naked Cat named Dub

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I just buried my sister last week . Fishing is super I love it but Lets put things in perspective as to importance in  this life.

Ow, Larry. That must have been horrible beyond words. My symathies. I hope there’ll be a quiet time this summer, maybe on a river with a line out, when thoughts of your sister come in and make the moment right. I buried my dad last year. The only thing I asked for from his estate was a casting rod. There are lots of such moments, and they’re good. riverman

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Kill file nuff said

I don’t get it. You make this thread’s original post scolding everyone for being petty, then when someone says something you don’t like, you post this petty reply. If you really want to "kill file" someone, just do it in a silent mode. It sounds to me like you don’t have much tolerance for others. Maybe you should just "kill file" all of us and be done with it. Then you can just read your own posts, the opinions of which I’m sure you’ll agree. Tim it’s lonely as a party of one

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Kill file nuff said

Was it something I said? Wolfgang jeez, there’s just no pleasing some people.    :(

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@mcw.edu: Kill file nuff said Was it something I said? Wolfgang jeez, there’s just no pleasing some people.    :(

Dammit, Wolfgang, Larry said "nuff said".  Wasn’t that good enough for you, or do you need to be "nuff saided" a second time. Scott

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Scott Seidman wrote… Dammit, Wolfgang, Larry said "nuff said".  Wasn’t that good enough for you, or do you need to be "nuff saided" a second time.

‘Nuff said. — Warren change addy to yahoo for email Henry’s Fork Clave info and Bozeman, MT fishing info http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/HFclave.html

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Dammit, Wolfgang, Larry said "nuff said".  Wasn’t that good enough for you, or do you need to be "nuff saided" a second time. Scott

I think this is a "nuff sader." — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply.

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Dammit, Wolfgang, Larry said "nuff said".  Wasn’t that good enough for you, or do you need to be "nuff saided" a second time.

You guys better be careful. We could be dealing with a "nuff sadist" Tim

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Dammit, Wolfgang, Larry said "nuff said".  Wasn’t that good enough for you, or do you need to be "nuff saided" a second time. You guys better be careful. We could be dealing with a "nuff sadist" Tim

    now, *that’s* funny.  i wish you’d cut this out.  sure is difficult staying pissed at someone with a good sense of humor. wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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My friend Michael had some unusual interest a couple of years ago while fishing a P&O it was taken on his backcast by a dragonfly. Later while he was telling his fishing partner about this it happened again and it was witnessed. Each yearwhile at the Southern Conclave in Mountain Home i tie a dozen for the kids who fish togeather in a kids only section of the Norfolk River and only last year did they not take a bunch of fish for them. Last year was real different cause I have a friend that said that it was the first year in the last seventeen years that soft hackles did not work for him in that river during the conclave. This is another of the many things that I find that I do not pretend to understand. Soft hackles and bamboo rods seem to go togeather very well. You might want to tie up a few of the old Arkansas pattern called the Red Ass which is simply a partridge and peacock hurl tied with a red thread abdomen. Big Dale

You had sent me the recipe on the Red Ass before and I had forgotten it, thanks for the reminder.  I’m sure I can cook up some steelhead friendly versions of it too. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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My friend Michael had some unusual interest a couple of years ago while fishing a P&O it was taken on his backcast by a dragonfly. Later while he was telling his fishing partner about this it happened again and it was witnessed

This happened to a buddy of mine two years ago! The dragonfly was actually trying to fly off with his fly. He pulled it in and cast the dragonfly into the creek (still gnawing his fly) which was immediately attacked and mostly consumed by a trout, leaving him with a dragonfly-head-on-a-fly to cast about. He caught no fish with just the head. Sean

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Tying the old north country style of wet flies is very addictive. Big Dale

Okay Dale, define that for me, please? — (C) George Gehrke 2001 http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html     fine bamboo flyrods & blanks

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Here you go George: http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/emt3/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tying the old north country style of wet flies is very addictive. Big Dale Okay Dale, define that for me, please? —

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Funny how great minds think alike. About a year ago while tying at a weekly meeting of The Roadkill Roundtable my mind started wandering and I put a size 14 wet fly hook in the vise and started with about 5 fibers of zelon as a trailing shuck. I had a 12 pack of superfine dubbing with me so I then dubbed a body of chartreuse. Then I added a collar of bobwhite quail tied like you said with the fibers stripped from one side of the feather. I am sorry that I did not think of the read head. Mine worked very well last summer for my beloved bluegills and last fall for a few rainbows over in Arkansas. I am looking forward to hearing how they work for you. Tying the old north country style of wet flies is very addictive. Big Dale

These old wets were the first flies I tied and used. My first fish on my own fly was a half pound largemouth on a Partridge and Orange that a had fished on a slow pulse retrieve.  All of my early trout were either taken on a P&O or an EHC.  A few months ago, I picked up some Pearsall’s silk and a starling skin – they’re still sitting on the bench.  Perhaps this weekend. I’ll let you know how they work for ‘gills too, once the warm weather arrives. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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my own fly was a half pound largemouth on a Partridge and Orange that a had fished on a slow pulse retrieve.  All of my early trout were either taken on a P&O or an EHC.  

My friend Michael had some unusual interest a couple of years ago while fishing a P&O it was taken on his backcast by a dragonfly. Later while he was telling his fishing partner about this it happened again and it was witnessed. Each yearwhile at the Southern Conclave in Mountain Home i tie a dozen for the kids who fish togeather in a kids only section of the Norfolk River and only last year did they not take a bunch of fish for them. Last year was real different cause I have a friend that said that it was the first year in the last seventeen years that soft hackles did not work for him in that river during the conclave. This is another of the many things that I find that I do not pretend to understand. Soft hackles and bamboo rods seem to go togeather very well. You might want to tie up a few of the old Arkansas pattern called the Red Ass which is simply a partridge and peacock hurl tied with a red thread abdomen. Big Dale

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the bug making business.  On Friday, my big steelie took a plain old Partridge & Orange yet the float rodder who ended up with seven on the day, swears by anything chartreuse.  So add 2 + 2 and I’m tying up size 12 Partridge & Flos on a Kamasan B175 (same as a Mustad 3906) in fluorescent green, chartreuse, or yellow using Uni’s Neon 1/0 braided thread plus a flo red 6/0 head .

Funny how great minds think alike. About a year ago while tying at a weekly meeting of The Roadkill Roundtable my mind started wandering and I put a size 14 wet fly hook in the vise and started with about 5 fibers of zelon as a trailing shuck. I had a 12 pack of superfine dubbing with me so I then dubbed a body of chartreuse. Then I added a collar of bobwhite quail tied like you said with the fibers stripped from one side of the feather. I am sorry that I did not think of the read head. Mine worked very well last summer for my beloved bluegills and last fall for a few rainbows over in Arkansas. I am looking forward to hearing how they work for you. Tying the old north country style of wet flies is very addictive. Big Dale

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The fishing season will start in a couple of weeks and so I was doing some preparations. I decided to dress some basic flypatterns. After  sitting in front of my tying vise and having tied some nice Buck caddis and GRHE goldhead I had been bored of these. So I asked myself a question; which other patterns should I dress and are there any other useful things to do with my fishing gear? I start with my results and hope of some other ROFF(T) hints: Do some pheasant tail nymphs and Adams. Exchange your leaders, which means for me make some new furled leaders. Best Regards and tight lines Wim

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Well, if guys could see what I’m tying now, I’d be drummed out of the bug making business.  On Friday, my big steelie took a plain old Partridge & Orange yet the float rodder who ended up with seven on the day, swears by anything chartreuse.  So add 2 + 2 and I’m tying up size 12 Partridge & Flos on a Kamasan B175 (same as a Mustad 3906) in fluorescent green, chartreuse, or yellow using Uni’s Neon 1/0 braided thread plus a flo red 6/0 head .  Tie on the 1/0 flo, and wrap over a few strands of mallard for the tail, wrap back and tie off.  Tie on the red flo and add two turns of partridge spider style (one side trimmed off.)  It actually doesn’t look all that bad and I think it just might work.   Picture to follow on ABPF.  Field tests due this week.  Stay tuned. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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I wanted some information on the Calvan 2.75 reel.  What do you all think?  Are they any good? That should be Galvan Real not Calvan. So, what do you think of them? I’ve seen them in a couple of fly shops. From what I can tell, they’re creat

I think mine is very gool. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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That should be Galvan Real not Calvan. So, what do you think of them? De Loy

I’ve got two Calvans.  They’re not as nice as the Galvans but the name tag is spiffy and goes with my wading jeans.  The advantage of the Calvan is it holds 300 yards of backing with a WF12F Hilfiger line.  If you get the drag model it comes with a wig and a pair of high heels along with an Elton John CD. — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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Hilfiger?  Isn’t he the guy that was talking to Opra and said, . . . ? Before you buy.

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I’m new here so please help me out. I wanted some information on the Calvan 2.75 reel.  What do you all think?  Are they any good? Thanks, De Loy Before you buy.

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I’m new here so please help me out. I wanted some information on the Calvan 2.75 reel.  What do you all think?  Are they any good? Thanks, De Loy Before you buy.

That should be Galvan Real not Calvan. So, what do you think of them? De Loy Before you buy.

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I wanted some information on the Calvan 2.75 reel.  What do you all think?  Are they any good? That should be Galvan Real not Calvan. So, what do you think of them?

I’ve seen them in a couple of fly shops. From what I can tell, they’re creat –Steve

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Today we said our goodbyes to the late Lt.Col. John Gavin Hatherell. He was one of the nicest men I will ever have the privilege of knowing and his loss to the fly fishing world here in the South East of England, enormous. About two hundred people gathered at the Tunbridge Wells crematorium and afterwards at the nearby United Reformed Church Hall. His eldest son, Gavin, made a fine speech that nicely captured all of the relevant biographical details of a full and well spent life, as well as touching on the small quirky aspects of a splendid character that made this man so well loved and by so many. Charles Jardine spoke eloquently, yet simply, about his long friendship with John, and so too did Donald Downs. Gathered there today were many of the great and the good of British game angling. It was a full turn out, paying due respect to a man who gave back far more to his sport than ever he took out of it. Farewell, John. There was never a better fishing companion, nor a finer more loyal friend. Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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Would that each of us have such words written about our days here when we too move on.  Nicely done, Tony, and I wish I had known him. Mark faulkner – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Today we said our goodbyes to the late Lt.Col. John Gavin Hatherell. He was one of the nicest men I will ever have the privilege of knowing and his loss to the fly fishing world here in the South East of England, enormous. About two hundred people gathered at the Tunbridge Wells crematorium and afterwards at the nearby United Reformed Church Hall. His eldest son, Gavin, made a fine speech that nicely captured all of the relevant biographical details of a full and well spent life, as well as touching on the small quirky aspects of a splendid character that made this man so well loved and by so many. Charles Jardine spoke eloquently, yet simply, about his long friendship with John, and so too did Donald Downs. Gathered there today were many of the great and the good of British game angling. It was a full turn out, paying due respect to a man who gave back far more to his sport than ever he took out of it. Farewell, John. There was never a better fishing companion, nor a finer more loyal friend. Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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Goodbye John… (It’s great that there some people writing here for the memory of the sport… thank you Tony.) * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping.  Smart is Beautiful

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Hello I am from the Azores. Have you ever considered coming to these islands ? Guess what the climate isn’t so bad, the people are great. Nature is still nature. Good for paraglidings, snorkling, fishing, etc. Lots of folk festivals during the summer. The land owners are as a vast majority great. We hava never had major problems with them. Of course you don’t land on a field that has just been plowed or near a place where they are milking the cows, just common sense. Just ask all the world champions that have been here how much fun it was. Even though there isn’t much termal activity there’s still some great flying. There’s no competition, just fly for fun. If it’s not good for flying, no problem let’s all go for a swim in cristal clear waters. Two major paragliding events in the Azores. In June on the island of S. Miguel and in August on the islands of Faial and Pico. Camping is great fun. Inexpensive boarding houses or hotels. Let us know and we can get you settled. E-mail me if you need further assistance or information on Azorean paragliding web sites. Jo

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Have fished it many times–was a deadbeat unemployed fella last year and I actually fished it 90 days. Don’t know where you live but before you go make sure you have the water release schedule halfway figured out so as not to ruin your day. Call ahead to the Ozark Angler in Heber Springs. Tell Jeff Hawthorne to tie you up some Red Diablos–the deadliest LRR fly.

Hi How about sharing the fly pattern receipe for the Red Diablo with us.   Thanks. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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- Hello All. I am looking for some info about the Little Red River Where to stay best spots to fish pretty much anything those you who have been there might be able to fill me in on. Thanks in advance Tight Lines Scott

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Have fished it many times–was a deadbeat unemployed fella last year and I actually fished it 90 days. Don’t know where you live but before you go make sure you have the water release schedule halfway figured out so as not to ruin your day. Call ahead to the Ozark Angler in Heber Springs. Tell Jeff Hawthorne to tie you up some Red Diablos–the deadliest LRR fly.

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Who knows the secret formula for homemade floatant.  There was this guide in Montana who had some incredible stuff, but he wouldn’t tell me what the contents were.

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Who knows the secret formula for homemade floatant.  There was this guide in Montana who had some incredible stuff, but he wouldn’t tell me what the contents were.

I’ve found that disolving some bees wax in alcohol or naptha and then soaking your fly in it after you tie it will give it some excellent floating characteristics.  Don’t know about re-constituting the fly on the stream with the same stuff.  You can get bees wax by buying some ‘Sno Seal’, a product for waterproofing shoes.

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Who knows the secret formula for homemade floatant.  There was this guide in Montana who had some incredible stuff, but he wouldn’t tell me what the contents were.

Hi Ron For years I used unscented Albolene liquifying cleanser available in the beauty aids section of most drug stores.  A 6oz tub cost about $4.00.   The ingredients are listed as follows: Mineral oil, petrolatum, paraffin, ceresin, carotene Instead of buying all that stuff to make your own, why not just buy a many years supply alread mixed? Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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Opinions that snaps are okay<

I’ve heard from two people now who really like those things. Perhaps it’s time I tried them again. Maybe my mind will change. Any other input would be appreciated. Thanx! JL 8-Wt Editor

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Jim Stuart writes: On the other hand, tying on bugs in low light (hell, in any light) is getting harder as I approach geezerhood and I’m thinking about trying those little snaps that are made for flies.  Anyone had any experience with them? Yeah, I tried those some years back. I found them too big for trout flies, too small for bass flies, and too wimpy in general for the rough-and-tumble, cast-to-the-tangles fishing in my area. Besides, you’ve got to tie those on, too, and they’re just as hard as any small fly, and more difficult to handle if your hands are stiff.

$.02: Maybe the fish are less rugged here in MN. I’ve used those things for years, on flies, jigs and plugs. They come in 3 sizes, so yu do have to change sizes if you have only one spool. I keep a small one on my fly rod, a medium on my lighter spinning rod, and a big ‘un on my heavyweight rod. I’ve lost fish for a mess of reasons, but those clips are not among them. They also let the fly/lure be freer for action, like a loop knot. I don’t like them for worming, though; they can collect junk if fished real slow.         /   V  V  V  V  V  V  V  /      King’s Computer Management, Inc.        <   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  (o   1633 NE Hwy 10      VVV              Y                 612-784-8042 (voice)                      VVV Heddon Lucky 13 leopard: the lure doesn’t catch fish, fish catch the lure. Opinions? I’m married. I am not allowed to have opinions.

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Jim Stuart writes: On the other hand, tying on bugs in low light (hell, in any light) is getting harder as I approach geezerhood and I’m thinking about trying those little snaps that are made for flies.  Anyone had any experience with them?

Yeah, I tried those some years back. I found them too big for trout flies, too small for bass flies, and too wimpy in general for the rough-and-tumble, cast-to-the-tangles fishing in my area. Besides, you’ve got to tie those on, too, and they’re just as hard as any small fly, and more difficult to handle if your hands are stiff. JL 8-Wt Editor

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