Question:
Ok, Steve, now that i’ve shown that photo to everyone in the four state area, i have a question. How’d you make it look like i have an earring?
You don’t?
Look at the photo again and click on the "earring". The fish he was catching were not cooperating with the photographer (me) or the fish holder (RW).
Bruce has a theory that the San Juan trout have been caught so many times that they’re wise to having their pictures taken. Sounds plausible. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/
Response:
I now have a picture of RW holding a fish underwater (the fish, not steve) that’s pretty damn big – it looks like a rainbow shark. It was one of the fish that refused to be held for an above water photo, but since i’m an experienced crappy photographer i know to start shooting as soon as you can see the fish just in case. steve, do me a favor and leave your mailing address on my home answering machine (505) 792-7774 and i’ll mail them out pronto. i do have an above water shot of another fish also. of course i’ve also got about fifty shots of louie laplac happily fishing the kiddie hole in an attempt to beef up his stats
(just kidding louie) bruce h bare your soul let your spirit burn out along the road to no return – r.e. keen
Response:
Bruiser writes: of course i’ve also got about fifty shots of louie laplac happily fishing the kiddie hole in an attempt to beef up his stats
(just kidding louie)
Oh, the pain! You are a cruel, cruel man, Bruce. Cruel. I’ve always wanted to pave my lawn. However, I think we could do fishdom a favor by paving the Kiddie Pool. <g Dave LaCourse Pirate and Bottom Dweller
Response:
<snip I’ve always wanted to pave my lawn. Dave, My personal preference was always green cement with my lawn mower painted white and placed in the middle. :-) Ernie
Response:
<snip I’ve always wanted to pave my lawn. Dave, My personal preference was always green cement with my lawn mower painted white and placed in the middle. :-) Ernie
A guy a few blocks from me simply filled his yard with rocks and put an old reel type push lawnmower in the yard with a sign that reads Rust In Peace. Seams quite elegant to me. Big Dale – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
Response:
Thanks for the great report Danl. Next time we’ll fish together more, but you were lucky to get to fish so much with willi, he really is the troutmaster. And you’re a pool hustler. See you in yellowstone or somewhere else soon. bruce h — bare your soul let your spirit burn out along the road to no return – r.e. keen
Response:
Snoop Doggy Bob was decked out in his usual flaming glory and we complimented him on his obvious grasp of panache. The pictures that RW posted just don
Question:
I was organizing my fly box and found that some of the flies had hooks which were rusty. Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about what should be done with these flies - should they be thrown out, could they be repaired, does it matter that I use rusty hooks when fishing, etc. As well, is there a way of ensuring that hooks will not rust after use. Any thoughts are much appreciated. Jon H.
Response:
Not sure I would use rusty hooks. You can prevent hooks from rusting in the future by making sure they are dried out before sticking back into fly box. Most logical approach is to dry them all on a table after a day’s fishing and then place them back into dry fly box for storage before next trip.(hopefully a short time) Regards from Montreal John Brkich
Response:
I was organizing my fly box and found that some of the flies had hooks which were rusty. Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about what should be done with these flies - should they be thrown out, Jon H.
Yes! Yes! Yes! Throw out! Just your luck someday you’ll hook the best trout of your life – some magnificent rainbow, 6/8 pounds – he’ll leap out of the water and show you his beauty and grace. Your heart will start to race and then he’ll break off. When you reel in you’ll notice he didn’t bust your leader, or pop the fly off the end. You’ll notice the bend of the hook broken off. OUCH!! Joel Axelrad
Response:
I was organizing my fly box and found that some of the flies had hooks which were rusty. Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts about what should be done with these flies - should they be thrown out, could they be repaired, does it matter that I use rusty hooks when fishing, etc. As well, is there a way of ensuring that hooks will not rust after use. Any thoughts are much appreciated. Jon H.
Flies are designed to deteriate quickly in wet conditions for the fished sake. At the cost of flys dump any rusted,aint woth lost fish. next time you get back from fishing open the box so moisture isn’t traped. In the south east your air conditioner will dry them, in the south west the dry air does the trick. In the rest of the country, the wifes hair dryer works well. John Popp in Sanford Fl.
Response:
Question:
Hi, I am planning a 1 week fishing vacation in Montana for the 3rd week of September. I am thinking of fishing with a guide for a couple of days and without guides for four days. I don’t know anything, though, about the best rivers to fish in this particular period, about the type of insects I might expect etc. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. – Vittorio Castelli
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I am planning a 1 week fishing vacation in Montana for the 3rd week of September. I am thinking of fishing with a guide for a couple of days and without guides for four days. I don’t know anything, though, about the best rivers to fish in this particular period, about the type of insects I might expect etc. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. – Vittorio Castelli
Where in Montana will you be??
Response:
September hatches include the blue-winged olive and the beginning of the October caddis hatch. Hopper activity is still high then too. Browns will be thinking about there up and coming spawning runs. Missouri and lower Clark Fork are my favorites then. — Brian D. Nelson Missoula, Montana Montana Flyfishing and Hunting Outfitter http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I am planning a 1 week fishing vacation in Montana for the 3rd week of September. I am thinking of fishing with a guide for a couple of days and without guides for four days. I don’t know anything, though, about the best rivers to fish in this particular period, about the type of insects I might expect etc. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. – Vittorio Castelli Where in Montana will you be??
Well, as I was saying, I am planning a trip in the generic area of Montana, but I don’t know where. I have no preferred place, having fished there only once and in less-than-optimal conditions. -Vittorio
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I am planning a 1 week fishing vacation in Montana for the 3rd week of September. I am thinking of fishing with a guide for a couple of days and without guides for four days. I don’t know anything, though, about the best rivers to fish in this particular period, about the type of insects I might expect etc. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. – Vittorio Castelli Where in Montana will you be?? Well, as I was saying, I am planning a trip in the generic area of Montana, but I don’t know where. I have no preferred place, having fished there only once and in less-than-optimal conditions. -Vittorio
Big state ya know…around Missoula is good…lower Clark Fork is good…of course the Yellowstone area is good…the Big Horn area is good…lots of good!
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I am planning a 1 week fishing vacation in Montana for the 3rd week of September. I am thinking of fishing with a guide for a couple of days and without guides for four days. I don’t know anything, though, about the best rivers to fish in this particular period, about the type of insects I might expect etc. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. – Vittorio Castelli
Hi Vittorio Missoula will put you close to the Clark’s Fork, Missouri, and the Bitteroot rivers. Bozeman puts you close to Yellowstone Park, Yellowstone, Madison, Gallatin, Missouri, & Bighorn rivers. Billings puts you close to the lower Yellowstone and the Bighorn rivers The 3rd week in September is black caddis time on the Bighorn. Good luck. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 materials catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I am planning a 1 week fishing vacation in Montana for the 3rd week of September. I am thinking of fishing with a guide for a couple of days and without guides for four days. I don’t know anything, though, about the best rivers to fish in this particular period, about the type of insects I might expect etc. Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated. – Vittorio Castelli
I had excellent fishing the 3rd week of September, 1996, in the Missoula area, especially on guided floats on the Clark Fork and Bitterroot Rivers, but also wading the Clark Fork and the St. Joe in Idaho (2+ hour drive). I also floated on a Kingfisher pontoon boat the Missouri both above and below Craig 9/24 and 9/25. The Missouri didn’t fish as well then as it had in mid-August, ‘96, or mid July, ‘94 and ‘95, but it was a lot less crowded. Of course, those 2 days in September may just have been off days– cold, windy, dreary. In Missoula I can strongly recommend Missoulian Angler as outfitter– see http://www.ism.net/~mslanglr/index.html I used them in ‘95 and ‘96 for guides, gear and advice and have been very satisfied in all respects. The guides are very hard working and will keep you catching fish from morning well into the dark if you’re up for it. Also, the rivers in the Missoula area, except for Rock Creek, are considerably less crowded than the Missouri, Gallatin, Madison and Yellowstone Park rivers, which adds to my pleasure. Phil Holt
Response:
In response to the message from me to this newsgroup earlier today about September fishing in the Missoula area, I received the following boldly stated Also, the rivers in the Missoula area, except for Rock Creek, are considerably less crowded than the Missouri, Gallatin, Madison and Yellowstone Park rivers, which adds to my pleasure. Phil Holt SO MUCH FOR THEM NOT BEING CROWDED ANYMORE!!!!! THANKS ALOT!!!!
I admire a person who has the courage of their convictions.
Response:
: Missoula will put you close to the Clark’s Fork, Missouri, and the : Bitteroot rivers. Al, you left out that Missoula also puts one close to Idaho. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher – http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry | That’s Idaho, not Iowa. | ad hominem University of Idaho | Upper Left Hand Corner. | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343 | No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem
Oh yeah…if he wants a potato! :=)
Response:
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In response to the message from me to this newsgroup earlier today about September fishing in the Missoula area, I received the following boldly stated Also, the rivers in the Missoula area, except for Rock Creek, are considerably less crowded than the Missouri, Gallatin, Madison and Yellowstone Park rivers, which adds to my pleasure. Phil Holt SO MUCH FOR THEM NOT BEING CROWDED ANYMORE!!!!! THANKS ALOT!!!! I admire a person who has the courage of their convictions.
If I identified myself I might have to worry that you would follow me to my favorite and still reasonably secluded fishing holes! I can imagine… elbow to elbow!!
Response:
: Missoula will put you close to the Clark’s Fork, Missouri, and the : Bitteroot rivers. Al, you left out that Missoula also puts one close to Idaho. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher – http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry | That’s Idaho, not Iowa. | ad hominem University of Idaho | Upper Left Hand Corner. | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343 | No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem
Response:
Gee, Bill, as a fellow who makes his living peddling ranch land to developers, I’d think you’d support any effort to encourage people to immigrate to Montana, as you did, or just come to build second homes and enjoy the fishing. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In response to the message from me to this newsgroup earlier today about September fishing in the Missoula area, I received the following boldly stated Also, the rivers in the Missoula area, except for Rock Creek, are considerably less crowded than the Missouri, Gallatin, Madison and Yellowstone Park rivers, which adds to my pleasure. Phil Holt SO MUCH FOR THEM NOT BEING CROWDED ANYMORE!!!!! THANKS ALOT!!!! I admire a person who has the courage of their convictions. If I identified myself I might have to worry that you would follow me to my favorite and still reasonably secluded fishing holes! I can imagine… elbow to elbow!!
Response:
OK, thanks to my stupidity its all out in the open now! I hope you realize I did this all tongue in cheek… it is just a small town and I would hate for someone to think I was serious (by the way… I didn’t mean to send it to you direct the first time… I am new to the newsgroups… I meant to post it as a follow up); HOWEVER, I do take issue with your characterization of my business. We do not "peddle" to developers! In fact, we work closely with the nature conservancy and many other conservation minded organizations and individuals hoping to protect lands from overdevelopment. By the way, do I know you?!? How did you find out about my business, Sherlock? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gee, Bill, as a fellow who makes his living peddling ranch land to developers, I’d think you’d support any effort to encourage people to immigrate to Montana, as you did, or just come to build second homes and enjoy the fishing. In response to the message from me to this newsgroup earlier today about September fishing in the Missoula area, I received the following boldly stated Also, the rivers in the Missoula area, except for Rock Creek, are considerably less crowded than the Missouri, Gallatin, Madison and Yellowstone Park rivers, which adds to my pleasure. Phil Holt SO MUCH FOR THEM NOT BEING CROWDED ANYMORE!!!!! THANKS ALOT!!!! I admire a person who has the courage of their convictions. If I identified myself I might have to worry that you would follow me to my favorite and still reasonably secluded fishing holes! I can imagine… elbow to elbow!!
Response:
Dear Victorio, We suggest you visit our guest ranch, Hawley Mountain Guest Ranch. You can get more details on the ranch at http://www.duderanch.org than go to Montana state to find us. We have four lodge rooms and three cabins on 155 acres surrounded by a million acres of wilderness 25 miles north of Yellowstone Park. Within walking distance of our lodge we have a stocked trout pond and 1 mile of the Boulder River. Guiding is included in our rates and a 4 day minimum stay is possible in September. In addition, in September we will be fishing in streams and lakes in the Wilderness that can be reached by horseback. The best flyfishing in Montana at our altitude (6400ft.) is from mid-July through September. BBlewett
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK, thanks to my stupidity its all out in the open now! I hope you realize I did this all tongue in cheek… it is just a small town and I would hate for someone to think I was serious (by the way… I didn’t mean to send it to you direct the first time… I am new to the newsgroups… I meant to post it as a follow up); HOWEVER, I do take issue with your characterization of my business. We do not "peddle" to developers! In fact, we work closely with the nature conservancy and many other conservation minded organizations and individuals hoping to protect lands from overdevelopment. By the way, do I know you?!? How did you find out about my business, Sherlock? Gee, Bill, as a fellow who makes his living peddling ranch land to developers, I’d think you’d support any effort to encourage people to immigrate to Montana, as you did, or just come to build second homes and enjoy the fishing. In response to the message from me to this newsgroup earlier today about September fishing in the Missoula area, I received the following boldly stated Also, the rivers in the Missoula area, except for Rock Creek, are considerably less crowded than the Missouri, Gallatin, Madison and Yellowstone Park rivers, which adds to my pleasure. Phil Holt SO MUCH FOR THEM NOT BEING CROWDED ANYMORE!!!!! THANKS ALOT!!!! I admire a person who has the courage of their convictions. If I identified myself I might have to worry that you would follow me to my favorite and still reasonably secluded fishing holes! I can imagine… elbow to elbow!!
Ahem, I apologize, I just wanted some information, I really did not mean to start such a discussion !! Anyway, thanks to all of you that sent me notes or replied to my inquiry on the usergroup, I am sort of getting some ideas of what to do and where to go, too bad the 3rd week of september is not 100 days long …. Going back to the fuss, I am just wondering what would have happened if I had mentioned Orvis in my posting … Just kidding !
-Vittorio
Response:
Will be in Montana 3rd week of Sept. and hitting several rivers. We have to make a decision to fish either the Madison or Yellowstone but not both. Tough choice. Anybody having fished both at this time of year I would like to hear from you. I was hoping some fish might still be on hoppers on the Yellowstone and maybe the Madison around Ennis. Anybody knowing of any private water fee fishing in either area as a distraction let me know. I have also been told that fishing in the Slide Inn area has been coming back lately. Any verification on this? Thanks.
Response:
Will be in Montana 3rd week of Sept. and hitting several rivers. We have to make a decision to fish either the Madison or Yellowstone but not both. Tough choice. Anybody having fished both at this time of year I would like to hear from you. I was hoping some fish might still be on hoppers on the Yellowstone and maybe the Madison around Ennis. Anybody knowing of any private water fee fishing in either area as a distraction let me know. I have also been told that fishing in the Slide Inn area has been coming back lately. Any verification on this? Thanks.
Hi Glen September fishing on either river will be great. Fish are just starting to take hopper now and this will continue until a hard freeze or two kills them off. Also streamer fishing on the Yellowstone river in the fall is also good. Fee waters in the area include the spring creeks in the Paradise valley. I suggest getting in contact with the River’s Edge in Bozeman (406-586-5373) when you get here to get information, licenses, guides, whatever. If you want a day on the spring creeks I suggest booking soon. Take care & … — Tight Lines ….. Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Catalog,Tips & Tricks, Fishing Reports, & NeverSink at: http://www.btsflyfishing.com
Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Will be in Montana 3rd week of Sept. and hitting several rivers. We have to make a decision to fish either the Madison or Yellowstone but not both. Tough choice. Anybody having fished both at this time of year I would like to hear from you. I was hoping some fish might still be on hoppers on the Yellowstone and maybe the Madison around Ennis. Anybody knowing of any private water fee fishing in either area as a distraction let me know. I have also been told that fishing in the Slide Inn area has been coming back lately. Any verification on this? Thanks.
I fished the Madison and the Yellowstone the 3rd week of September 1996. However, the rivers were not as high as they are this year. There were some, but not a lot of, hoppers. The nights were too cold. Hoppers did not get active until late afternoon. A royal trude, size 14 or 16, with a prince nymph or hare’s ear nymph dropper tied directly off the hook of the trude with about 20 to 24 inches of tippet worked well on both rivers. Humpy, caddis, stimulator, bee, and trude patterns worked well on the Madison, These were also fished with a prince nymph or hare’s ear nymph dropper. I would forget the fee fishing and consider trying a float tube on South Meadow Lake out of McAllister if it is accessible.
Response:
Question:
What are some Spring recomendations for fishing Maine, Either Salmon or trout?
Response:
Spring fishing in Maine means the smelt run for landlocks. West Branch of the Penobscot near Ripogenus dam in early June is my #1 pick. Hatches should also start by June 10. Rangely area has some terrific fishing in the Kennebago river, Big Magalloway river, and Rapid river. Should start by mid-May. Tight lines, Gerry Crow
Response:
Gerry crow writes:
<<Spring fishing in Maine means the smelt run for landlocks. West Branch of the Penobscot near Ripogenus dam in early June is my #1 pick. Hatches should also start by June 10. Rangely area has some terrific fishing in the Kennebago river, Big Magalloway river, and Rapid river. Should start by mid-May. Tight lines, Gerry Crow Fish the Rapid River every year the week before and after Memorial Day. If the Hendrickson hatch comes off, it is a sight to see. After Mem. Day, lots of caddis hatches. I usually fish only dries on the Rapid, but lately have had lots of luck with nymphs (Hendrickson, Hares Ear, my own concoctions of green caddis worms (both dubbed and latex bodied), and Brassies). The Rapid is my favorite spot in all the world. It doesn’t get much better. Be sure to see "Lakewood Camps" representatives at the Marlboro Mass Fly Show Jan 17-19. Dave LaCourse
Response:
What are some Spring recomendations for fishing Maine, Either Salmon or trout?
Gerry had some good advice for you but my best would be to take plenty of bug dope. Tight Lines JF
Response:
What are some Spring recomendations for fishing Maine, Either Salmon or trout?
I was in Maine one summer six or seven years ago and my wife hired a guide for me to fish one day as a birthday gift. At the time, that was a very extravagant gift on her part. We had little money and I had never fished with a guide. It was mid summer and I spent one day with the owner operator of Libby Camp (they advertise in the magazines). That was truely one of my most memorable fishing trips of my life. Since then our financial situation has changed and I’ve fished with a lot of guides, but, that guy was truely tops. The fishing wasn’t terific because of the time of year but, he gave me a great trip. We fished rivers and we fished lakes. He taught me casting tips. He told stories about Maine and the "old" days and we moaned about politicians. What more could you ask for. I would recommend Libby Camps to anyone who asks. Steve Russell My Rod and Reel They comfort me.
Response:
What are some Spring recomendations for fishing Maine, Either Salmon or trout?
Are you from the New England area? If so, visit the Fly Fishing Show this week (Jan 17,18,19) in Marlboro, Mass. There you will find a booth for "Lakewood Camps", Middle Dam, Maine. Great place to stay, and some of the best flyfishing for landlocks and brook trout on the Rapid River (output of Lower Lake Richardson). If you are there for the Hendrickson hatch, you will never forget the experience. Before Memorial Day fishing is usually with streamer, but nymphs will bag many also. After the first Hendrickson hatch, the Caddis hatches come off — usually early June. Great fishing, and great accomodations from Sue and Stan Milton. Regards, Dave LaCourse
Response:
Question:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : : We canoed the Quetico the 9th thru the 13th of this month and I remember : : before going reading some posts by other folks that were to be going that : : week too. I’d like to compare notes on what your trip was like (fishing, : : Northern Lights, Wolves, Bears, weather, etc). Anyone care to swap lies? I canoed the Boundary Waters from Sept. 13th – 20th, pretty close to Quetico. Fishing was pretty good (we caught some decent bass), and the weather was outstanding, except for a little rain on Sunday the 15th. We didn’t see any bears, although we were careful to hang our packs just in case (we saw bear tracks and scat at several of our portages). We did see moose, bald eagles, beavers, and a lot of other wildlife. The skies were very clear for most of our trip, and I did see the Northern Lights (which was a thrill for me, because I’m from NJ), as well as more stars than I’ve ever seen before. How was Quetico? This was our first time at BWCA, and we’re trying to think of an equally spectacular place to go next year…. – Scot R.
We had lots of windy, rainy and cool weather so that limited how much messing around in our canoe we did. We fished from it some one afternoon below a rapid. Aside from that, we just used the canoe to get in and out. We took a float plane to and from the ranger sta. at Lac LaCroix and canoed over to McAree Lake. We camped at 2 places on the north end of the lake. We heard no wolves, saw no Northern Lights, Moose, Beaver, otters or Deer. We did see lots of Bald Eagles (15 or so at least), one Grouse and some Loons. We caught a total of 8 fish (3 Northerns, I Walleye and 4 Smallmouths) and lost about as many. We lost a ton of tackle bank fishing as close to the bottom as possible (that’s where the book said they are…..on the bottom). The wind died down one night out of 4 and we had one pretty spectacular sunset. We averaged seeing about one party a day and saw motorboats everyday on McAree. That was a little more crowded than I was expecting. We didn’t paddle down to Rebecca Falls because we heard thru the portage grapevine that the campsites were taken. We did get to fly over them on the plane trip out and they (2 of them side by side!) looked pretty spectacular and the campsitse were still taken. I’m glad we went during the "off" season. I have a feeling that we’d have seen lots more folks 2 or 3 weeks earlier. You can never predict the weather but I think we’d've caught more fish and seen more wildlife if the weather would’ve been decent. We would’ve seen the N. Lights on Tues. night too (we compared notes with some other paddlers on the plane to St. Paul afterwords and they saw them on Tues. night, it was clear for them further into Quetico. They also heard wolves. Sounds like you guys hit the weather pretty good. It was still a kick in spite of the shit-o weather. Dave
Response:
: : We canoed the Quetico the 9th thru the 13th of this month and I remember : : before going reading some posts by other folks that were to be going that : : week too. I’d like to compare notes on what your trip was like (fishing, : : Northern Lights, Wolves, Bears, weather, etc). Anyone care to swap lies? I canoed the Boundary Waters from Sept. 13th – 20th, pretty close to Quetico. Fishing was pretty good (we caught some decent bass), and the weather was outstanding, except for a little rain on Sunday the 15th. We didn’t see any bears, although we were careful to hang our packs just in case (we saw bear tracks and scat at several of our portages). We did see moose, bald eagles, beavers, and a lot of other wildlife. The skies were very clear for most of our trip, and I did see the Northern Lights (which was a thrill for me, because I’m from NJ), as well as more stars than I’ve ever seen before. How was Quetico? This was our first time at BWCA, and we’re trying to think of an equally spectacular place to go next year…. – Scot R.
Response:
We canoed the Quetico the 9th thru the 13th of this month and I remember before going reading some posts by other folks that were to be going that week too. I’d like to compare notes on what your trip was like (fishing, Northern Lights, Wolves, Bears, weather, etc). Anyone care to swap lies? Dave
Response:
: We canoed the Quetico the 9th thru the 13th of this month and I remember : before going reading some posts by other folks that were to be going that : week too. I’d like to compare notes on what your trip was like (fishing, : Northern Lights, Wolves, Bears, weather, etc). Anyone care to swap lies? I don’t see any reason why you cannot post your lies right here. :-) — . * . + . o B. Michael Wick . ‘ . + Carnivorous Vulgarus . . o http://www.visi.com/~wick/ * . ’ + * . * *
Response: