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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –      I’m loking to purchase a new or used outboard but need opinions on them. My cheap ass partner does not want to spring for the new 4 stroke models so were considering the alternatives. I understand that we should probably stay away from carbureators (Johnson) and that honda/merc/yamaha and others are all decent.       I need to know about repair histories, and general levels of satisfaction from boaters and not dealers and sellers that might be biased. I’m in NYC and plan to use my 17 foot for inside fishing and waterskiing so I’m looking for a 90 hp or larger (i guess). Any useful feedback? –Eugene

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     I’m loking to purchase a new or used outboard but need opinions on them. My cheap ass partner does not want to spring for the new 4 stroke models so were considering the alternatives. I understand that we should probably stay away from carbureators (Johnson) and that honda/merc/yamaha and others are all decent.       I need to know about repair histories, and general levels of satisfaction from boaters and not dealers and sellers that might be biased. I’m in NYC and plan to use my 17 foot for inside fishing and waterskiing so I’m looking for a 90 hp or larger (i guess). Any useful feedback? –Eugene

Before you discount "carburated" engines, I have 2 old Johnsons and 3 old Evinrudes that run like Rolex watches.  The new engines have their strong points, but I’ll take my old geezers.  I’ve never had to paddle home. noah

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     I’m loking to purchase a new or used outboard but need opinions on them. My cheap ass partner does not want to spring for the new 4 stroke models so were considering the alternatives. I understand that we should probably stay away from carbureators (Johnson) and that honda/merc/yamaha and others are all decent.

Unless you’re an outboard mechanic trying to make a living, what’s so bad about carbs?  A little less fuel and power efficient, a LOT more reliable. Dan — Mustangs don’t count as sports cars. They’re pacifiers for NASCAR driver wannabes who couldn’t afford anything reasonable.                 — Ryan Micallef

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Yamaha 115hp FI  4 stroke. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –      I’m loking to purchase a new or used outboard but need opinions on them. My cheap ass partner does not want to spring for the new 4 stroke models so were considering the alternatives. I understand that we should probably stay away from carbureators (Johnson) and that honda/merc/yamaha and others are all decent.       I need to know about repair histories, and general levels of satisfaction from boaters and not dealers and sellers that might be biased. I’m in NYC and plan to use my 17 foot for inside fishing and waterskiing so I’m looking for a 90 hp or larger (i guess). Any useful feedback? –Eugene

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Where are the Delaware River Shad? I have yet to get a report of any shad being caught. If you hear of any catches please report to my shad website at www.homestead.com/woofish/shad.html. Thanks.

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Hi Peter.  Please refrain from making your shad posts to the Rec.outdoors.fishing.bass newsgroup.  It’s not considered "on-topic" to post about other kinds of fish on the bass group.  Much appreciated, and tight lines to ya! Regards, Warren Wolk (emailed to Mr Groves on 2/12)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Where are the Delaware River Shad? I have yet to get a report of any shad being caught. If you hear of any catches please report to my shad website at www.homestead.com/woofish/shad.html. Thanks.

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Is that you Bob? — Craig Baugher www.yessssports.com

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Nope, but someone’s gotta do it  Mr Groves has courteously replied to my email, and has apologized for the off-topic posts. WW

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is that you Bob? — Craig Baugher www.yessssports.com

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Whats funny, is I love shad fishing.  Go for Bass in the morning and evening and shad during the day.  same area. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nope, but someone’s gotta do it  Mr Groves has courteously replied to my email, and has apologized for the off-topic posts. WW Is that you Bob? — Craig Baugher www.yessssports.com

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I wonder if we’re talking about the same type of shad Bill?  The American Shad? Warren2

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whats funny, is I love shad fishing.  Go for Bass in the morning and evening and shad during the day.  same area. Bill Nope, but someone’s gotta do it  Mr Groves has courteously replied to my email, and has apologized for the off-topic posts. WW Is that you Bob? — Craig Baugher www.yessssports.com

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Yes we are.  Big run of American shad up the Sacramento and Feather Rivers as well as the American River in Sacramento.  They were transplanted in the the early 1900’s along with Striped Bass.  Is a fun day when you catch 30-50 2-5# shad on an 8 weight fly rod.  Do not even have to cast the fly as I fish from a boat at Verona, the confluence of the Sac and the Feather.  Just feed out a 30′ shooting head and Amnesia line to the backing.  As to bassing, lots of bass in both rivers, both large and smallies.  The Feather is fed by the drop-shotting king lake, Oroville and the Sacramento is fed by Lake Shasta.  Went by Shasta last Friday and Sunday.  Sunday was raining and had snowed earlier in the day as was some pushed up in the middle of the road.  Was some people out fishing the lake by Bridge Bay Resort.  Wanted to stop and fish, but since the purpose of the trip was dropping the boat off in Medford, OR for a paint job and new T-8 kicker and bracket plus a mounting plate for the new MK 65 – AP I was returning with no boat.  Figure I will fish the lake mid April when I can go reclaim the boat.  Will be done earlier, but doing a trip to Cary, N.C. for a wedding and see friends in Martinsville, VA the 6 of April.  So not boating till mid April at a minimum. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I wonder if we’re talking about the same type of shad Bill?  The American Shad? Warren2 Whats funny, is I love shad fishing.  Go for Bass in the morning and evening and shad during the day.  same area. Bill Nope, but someone’s gotta do it  Mr Groves has courteously replied to my email, and has apologized for the off-topic posts. WW Is that you Bob? — Craig Baugher www.yessssports.com

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But, if you are a bait fisherman, you would be able to find Bass easier if you knew where the shad were. — Mike..   A true fisherman approaches the first day of fishing much as a child approaches Christmas, with the eager   anticipation, sleepless nights, making of lists, and the anticipating of pleasure.

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Different shad.  Here in California the shad the bass eat are Threadfin Shad.  maybe 3" long.  And all the predators munch them.  The American Shad is the largest member of the Herring family and come to the river from salt to spawn.  The males are about 2# while the ladies are up to 5#. Bill – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – But, if you are a bait fisherman, you would be able to find Bass easier if you knew where the shad were. — Mike.. A true fisherman approaches the first day of fishing much as a child approaches Christmas, with the eager anticipation, sleepless nights, making of lists, and the anticipating of pleasure.

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I saw this thing being advertised on Ebay and I had to go to Leica’s site to see if it was for real.  It was.  What’s next?  Kodak starts making Brownie Starflash remakes for $500?

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Leica’s site to see if it was for real.  It was.  What’s next?  Kodak starts making Brownie Starflash remakes for $500? The Leica "O" has a great little recomputed 50 F/3.5 Elmar (4 element Tessar formula) lens! The Leica folks at Solms say is just the thing for reducing stress by freeing the photographer from the modern techno-wonder SLR! Using the "O" is like going fly fishing they say! Doug from Tumwater

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Got the class ring on?                 Frank Reid – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ouch. Get those gloves up higher, dammit! /daytripper

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FORSALE –  Penn International Gold Medal model IMS 6690-4P Graphite 9′ 6wt. I bought it thinking I would be travelling alot, wanting a rod to take on the trips.   This never happened, so it’s totally unused. It’s a 9′0" 6wt rod, IMS graphite, top quality cork and hardware (beautiful wooden reel seat, silver-plated nickel reel hardware), complete with matching case (Burgandy colored cordura over PVC). This rod is georgeous — I hate to sell it but need the money for a saltwater rod. Originally was $250, will sell for $190/best offer I guarantee you’ll love it. Thanks, Joe Levantino Lucent Technologies, Bell Labs Holmdel, NJ 732-949-0664

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FORSALE –  Penn International Gold Medal model IMS 6690-4P Graphite 9′ 6wt.

I’ll certainly give you credit for persistence, Joe. OBROFF (whatever that means), I’m a fan of Penn and Fenwick graphite fly rods–I don’t hear much about them on this newsgroup, though. The Penn and Fenwick rods look extremely similar, so they much share manufacturing (just a guess). Anyway, one of my local fly shops sells them and I’ve found them on the Web. Because they’re in the $160-$180 price range I’m suprised they are not more attractive to folks who don’t want to spend $300 on a rod. They have a really nice finish and a medium action. YMMV, but I think they are a nice rod for the price. I own the 8′6" 4-piece 5wt–it was the first fly rod I purchased (Ok, not technically the first since I bought a Browning as a teenager to use for nymphing with a spinning reel). I like the rod action–but what the heck do I know. My only disappointment is that the ferrule fit on my rod (can’t speak for the model as a whole) isn’t the best and after a day of fishing one of the ferrules tends to work its way loose if I don’t check them every once in a while. I have another Penn rod 9′ 2-piece 4wt and a Fenwick 7′ 4wt 2-peice–neither of which has that problem. –Steve

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FORSALE –  Penn International Gold Medal model IMS 6690-4P Graphite 9′ 6wt. I’ll certainly give you credit for persistence, Joe. OBROFF (whatever that means), I’m a fan of Penn and Fenwick graphite fly rods–I don’t hear much about them on this newsgroup, though.

    i bought my youngest boy an 8′ penn last year as his first rod.  he loves it, although i find the action to be a little on the soft side.  the problem you experienced with your ferrules hasn’t appeared.     i might be interested in ol joe’s nine footer, except i am afraid that the high line speed developed by my astonishing casting prowess might just be too much for the poor thing; it might simply explode in the midst of a direction change… wayno

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Explode or die of boredom?             Frank Reid except i am afraid that – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the high line speed developed by my astonishing casting prowess might just be too much for the poor thing; it might simply explode in the midst of a direction change… wayno

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Explode or die of boredom?            Frank Reid except i am afraid that the high line speed developed by my astonishing casting prowess might just be too much for the poor thing; it might simply explode in the midst of a direction change…

He means when it falls off the top of his car due to the direction change (or was that Daytripper?) <g — Charlie…

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Explode or die of boredom?            Frank Reid except i am afraid that the high line speed developed by my astonishing casting prowess might just be too much for the poor thing; it might simply explode in the midst of a direction change… He means when it falls off the top of his car due to the direction change (or was that Daytripper?) <g

Ouch. Get those gloves up higher, dammit! /daytripper

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FORSALE –  Penn International 4-pc flyrod I have a beautiful, brand new Penn 4 piece flyrod that I want to sell. I bought it thinking I would be travelling alot, wanting a rod to take on the trips.   This never happened, so it’s totally unused. It’s a 9′0" 6wt rod, IMS graphite, top quality cork and hardware (beautiful wooden reel seat, silver-plated nickel reel hardware), complete with matching case (Burgandy colored cordura over PVC). Originally was $300+, will sell for $250 firm + shipping. I guarantee you’ll love it. Thanks, Joe Levantino Lucent Technologies, Bell Labs Holmdel, NJ 732-949-0664

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You might want to provide a model number with that fly rod and/or try your hand at eBay, since I’ve recently seen several brand new Penn Gold Medal 4-piece travel rods for sale at fly shops (on the Web and in my city) for less than $160. Steve Zimmerman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – FORSALE –  Penn International 4-pc flyrod I have a beautiful, brand new Penn 4 piece flyrod that I want to sell. I bought it thinking I would be travelling alot, wanting a rod to take on the trips.   This never happened, so it’s totally unused. It’s a 9′0" 6wt rod, IMS graphite, top quality cork and hardware (beautiful wooden reel seat, silver-plated nickel reel hardware), complete with matching case (Burgandy colored cordura over PVC). Originally was $300+, will sell for $250 firm + shipping. I guarantee you’ll love it. Thanks, Joe Levantino

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FORSALE –  Penn International Gold Medal model IMS 6690-4P Graphite 9′ 6wt. I bought it thinking I would be travelling alot, wanting a rod to take on the trips.   This never happened, so it’s totally unused. It’s a 9′0" 6wt rod, IMS graphite, top quality cork and hardware (beautiful wooden reel seat, silver-plated nickel reel hardware), complete with matching case (Burgandy colored cordura over PVC). Originally was $300+, will sell for $225/best offer I guarantee you’ll love it. Thanks, Joe Levantino Lucent Technologies, Bell Labs Holmdel, NJ 732-949-0664

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Joe, I’m not trying to sabotage you; nor do I have a problem with an occasional FS post. But I do feel the need to point out that you can buy this rod brand new on the web for $189.95 retail. Check out: http://www.tackledirect.com/tackle/penngoldmedal.html –Steve – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – FORSALE –  Penn International Gold Medal model IMS 6690-4P Graphite 9′ 6wt. I bought it thinking I would be travelling alot, wanting a rod to take on the trips.   This never happened, so it’s totally unused. It’s a 9′0" 6wt rod, IMS graphite, top quality cork and hardware (beautiful wooden reel seat, silver-plated nickel reel hardware), complete with matching case (Burgandy colored cordura over PVC). Originally was $300+, will sell for $225/best offer I guarantee you’ll love it. Thanks, Joe Levantino Lucent Technologies, Bell Labs Holmdel, NJ 732-949-0664

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… : Alagnak 1998 I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. JonCook. Easier for you to say than I! (I *am* jealous. I AM jealous. I am SOOOOO jealous! ;^) Great story, Andrew! /daytripper I agree, i’m so damn jealous my skin’s a turnin’ green. great report…. –Wataugan Walt

I betcha he never left his house.  I betcha he invented all of this just to piss us off. . . .    It’s working, it’s working, I’m pissed.   Great trip, Andrew.  We all desreve at least one of these per lifetime. Peter Peter        Merry Christmas

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I betcha he never left his house.  I betcha he invented all of this just to piss us off. . . .    It’s working, it’s working, I’m pissed.   Great trip, Andrew.  We all desreve at least one of these per lifetime. Peter

I just want to say, right here, right now, that I have the best wife in the world, not least because she lets me do this more than once in a lifetime.   Now, about that "Betcha he never left the house" stuff, try these on for size…  http://www.aa.net/~andrewbr/alagnak/ The jpegs are a little big, so it’s kinda slow to load, but it’ll give you a nice sense of what the trip was like.   Lest any of you think this was some big bucks, Gucci trip,  this cost us less than $600/apiece, not counting airfare to King Salmon and malt beverages.  Start saving your pennies, men. — Andrew Brunette

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I just want to say, right here, right now, that I have the best wife in the world, not least because she lets me do this more than once in a lifetime.   Now, about that "Betcha he never left the house" stuff, try these on for size…  http://www.aa.net/~andrewbr/alagnak/ The jpegs are a little big, so it’s kinda slow to load, but it’ll give you a nice sense of what the trip was like.   Lest any of you think this was some big bucks, Gucci trip,  this cost us less than $600/apiece, not counting airfare to King Salmon and malt beverages.  Start saving your pennies, men. — Andrew Brunette

Andrew Nice site and pix.  Actually this is a great idea as we all like to talk about our trips and stuff.  Building a simple site combines the pix with the text for a better story.   Looks like some of us (me) will have to brush up on our HTML skills. Peter Peter        Merry Christmas

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: : Now, about that "Betcha he never left the house" stuff, try these on for : size…  http://www.aa.net/~andrewbr/alagnak/ Andrew, please let me know where you bought those pictures, I’d like to see if they’ll put together a "saltwater flats" trip for me…

Rite-Aid photo counter.  They have the plastic bushes, blow up fish, everything.  They even told me, "you don’t look like a good enough fisherman to use the big fish dummies, use these middlesized ones instead."   Didn’t even charge me more than the normal 6.95 a roll for the Pix.  Is it great living in the age of the service economy or what? — Andrew Brunette

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Alagnak 1998 It was a hot, buggy afternoon when we landed in King Salmon.  One of our party was already missing, having been marooned in a hostile check-in line in Anchorage.  We had stopped there to see some friends, pick up licenses and stimulate the late summer business of the local fly shop economy.  

Hi Andrew, This reminded me of my first AK trip. I floated the Togiak River with Bus Bergman, Jim and Kitty Vincent (Rio Line Company) and my cousin in 1976. It was a wonderful trip and was the real AK experience. Float trips are great. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : Alagnak 1998 I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. JonCook. Easier for you to say than I! (I *am* jealous. I AM jealous. I am SOOOOO jealous! ;^) Great story, Andrew! /daytripper

I agree, i’m so damn jealous my skin’s a turnin’ green. great report…. –Wataugan Walt

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Great report Andrew … thanks for the post.

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: Alagnak 1998 I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. JonCook.

Easier for you to say than I! (I *am* jealous. I AM jealous. I am SOOOOO jealous! ;^) Great story, Andrew! /daytripper

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Great report – thanks. Thomas Gilg

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: Alagnak 1998 I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. I will not be jealous. JonCook.

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Alagnak 1998 It was a hot, buggy afternoon when we landed in King Salmon.  One of our party was already missing, having been marooned in a hostile check-in line in Anchorage.  We had stopped there to see some friends, pick up licenses and stimulate the late summer business of the local fly shop economy.   After trying to locate the bush carrier that we were to use, we found out that we had a couple of hours to kill, so while waiting for Dave, we loaded up on the supplies that were too heavy to fly in from Seattle, notably Milwaukee

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I have recently moved to Sydney (Australia) and would love to hear where there is good flyfishing reasonably close by (eg: up to half a day’s drive away). I would appreciate hearing other fisho’s thoughts. Thanks! Mat

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I have recently moved to Sydney (Australia) and would love to hear where there is good flyfishing reasonably close by (eg: up to half a day’s drive away). I would appreciate hearing other fisho’s thoughts. Thanks! Mat

G’day Mat, You should have a go at Lithgow (Lyell dam), Wallerawang (Lake Wallace), Mudgee (Windamere dam) or best of all Oberon (Oberon dam). These are all reasonably close to Sydney out via the Great Western Hwy. If fishing in lakes is not your style, I believe that there is some good ffishing in the Coxs & Turon Rivers (as well as the many other creeks and rivers in the area) – but I haven’t tried these, yet. Phil

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OK, so I’m not a purist!  Can you top this one though. I was fishing with my father-in-law at a friends two acre pond for bass and bluegill.  Now this was the cleanest lake you ever did see due to the huge carp that had been placed in there many years ago.  The pond owner was very proud of his carp, some being as much as 3 feet long, and always made sure he told us that he didn’t have to warn us not to catch his carp because they were way to smart to be caught.  Many had tried yet all had failed. C’mon, enough with the carp as I stand here with my flyrod in hand.  I didn’t care anything at all about catching his carp!  Well…  as I stood on the bank stripping line and watching the carp cruise near the surface slurping in leaves that had hopelessly fallen into the pond I got an idea. I quickly brought in my fly and reached up and grabbed a leaf off the nearest tree and broke it in half and threaded my fly on to it.  Picking the largest carp, about three feet long, I cast the leaf about six feet in front of it and well… you can guess the rest.  Wow!  Was that fun.  My father-in law said I was crazy, yet, I have caught him more than once picking leaves off trees and threading them on when the fishing was slow and the carp were on the prowl.  I’ve caught half a dozen myself now.  It takes a specific variety of leaf though.  Havn’t told my father-in law that part yet!  TOP THAT!

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Last year I was FF at Harper’s Ferry.  I caught and reeled in a 5 LB catfish that was dead!  Then an hour later I caught another 5 lb catfish (this one was alive).  Thanks for your story.  I’m sure others will top this! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK, so I’m not a purist!  Can you top this one though. I was fishing with my father-in-law at a friends two acre pond for bass and bluegill.  Now this was the cleanest lake you ever did see due to the huge carp that had been placed in there many years ago.  The pond owner was very proud of his carp, some being as much as 3 feet long, and always made sure he told us that he didn’t have to warn us not to catch his carp because they were way to smart to be caught.  Many had tried yet all had failed. C’mon, enough with the carp as I stand here with my flyrod in hand.  I didn’t care anything at all about catching his carp!  Well…  as I stood on the bank stripping line and watching the carp cruise near the surface slurping in leaves that had hopelessly fallen into the pond I got an idea. I quickly brought in my fly and reached up and grabbed a leaf off the nearest tree and broke it in half and threaded my fly on to it.  Picking the largest carp, about three feet long, I cast the leaf about six feet in front of it and well… you can guess the rest.  Wow!  Was that fun.  My father-in law said I was crazy, yet, I have caught him more than once picking leaves off trees and threading them on when the fishing was slow and the carp were on the prowl.  I’ve caught half a dozen myself now.  It takes a specific variety of leaf though.  Havn’t told my father-in law that part yet!  TOP THAT!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -OK, so I’m not a purist!  Can you top this one though. I was fishing with my father-in-law at a friends two acre pond for bass and bluegill.  Now this was the cleanest lake you ever did see due to the huge carp that had been placed in there many years ago.  The pond owner was very proud of his carp, some being as much as 3 feet long, and always made sure he told us that he didn’t have to warn us not to catch his carp because they were way to smart to be caught.  Many had tried yet all had failed. C’mon, enough with the carp as I stand here with my flyrod in hand.  I didn’t care anything at all about catching his carp!  Well…  as I stood on the bank stripping line and watching the carp cruise near the surface slurping in leaves that had hopelessly fallen into the pond I got an idea. I quickly brought in my fly and reached up and grabbed a leaf off the nearest tree and broke it in half and threaded my fly on to it.  Picking the largest carp, about three feet long, I cast the leaf about six feet in front of it and well… you can guess the rest.  Wow!  Was that fun.  My father-in law said I was crazy, yet, I have caught him more than once picking leaves off trees and threading them on when the fishing was slow and the carp were on the prowl.  I’ve caught half a dozen myself now.  It takes a specific variety of leaf though.  Havn’t told my father-in law that part yet!  TOP THAT!

I believe I can… December 15th on the Kilchis River on the northern coast of Oregon. It’s 33 degrees and raining, a typical Oregon winters day.  A friend of mine and a couple of his brothers were fishing for Chinook.  Rick, being a guy that always likes a challenge, was using 12lb test.  Rick hooked a very large hen on a red corkie.  The fight was on.  Rick fought the fish for about 25 minutes when his line broke at the rod tip.  Thinking fast, Rick grabbed a rod from his brother and preceded to cast at the line trailing the fish that stayed in the pool.  He finally "snagged" the line and tied it to the "new" line.  Rick fought this fish for another 20 minutes.  Finally, in a last ditch effort on the fishes part, the fish barreled down river about 30 yards only to beach itself on a gravel bar midstream.  Now I wouldn’t have beleived this part if I wasn’t there to see it, but Rick jumped into the water fully clothed, swam to the gravel bar and dove onto the fish just as it was about to slip back into the water.  The fish weighed out at 56lbs!  I think THAT TOPS IT! Bob Crossley

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 I’ve caught half a dozen myself now.  It takes a specific variety of leaf though.  Havn’t told my father-in law that part yet!  TOP THAT!

BAIT SLINGER!!!! hehe luv chipper

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snipped to fit: and the carp were on the prowl.  I’ve caught half a dozen myself now.  It takes a specific variety of leaf though.  Havn’t told my father-in law that part yet!  TOP THAT!

_______CARP love willow leaves.  Especially the ones with headaches. Mr. G. (In the Top Hat)

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: snipped to fit: : and the carp were on the prowl.  I’ve caught half a dozen myself now.  It : takes a specific variety of leaf though.  Havn’t told my father-in law : that : part yet!  TOP THAT! : : Just last night at a local Flyfishing club meeting, I heard the same thing from Jim Davidson who worte an article on flyfishing for carp in one of the magazines last year, He did the same thing with leaves of a different variety in our Olentangy River. When you do this, make sure put it right under the carp’s nose or he won’t take it. So somebody else has figured out the same trick!  ;-} — Jon Porter

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – snipped to fit: and the carp were on the prowl.  I’ve caught half a dozen myself now.  It takes a specific variety of leaf though.  Havn’t told my father-in law that part yet!  TOP THAT! _______CARP love willow leaves.  Especially the ones with headaches. Mr. G. (In the Top Hat)

Hmmm… Seems like a Hamills Killer fished as a dry would make a pretty good leaf imitation. Bruce….

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I can’t really top that, though I would add that I have caught several 7-8 lb carp on huckleberries when that’s what they were eating – kind of "match the hatch." This was on a heavy bass spinning outfit. I like your idea and will try this summer with flyrod.

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I know an awesome salt water fly guide who fishes Long Island sound. He is reasonable and thinks like a fish. He is a good freind, but an even better guide. Let me know if you are interested.

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I WILL BE IN THE LONG ISLAND AREA IN THE EARLY SUMMER.  ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR SALT WATER FLY OPPORTUNITIES?

Sorry – I should have said try    rec.outdoors.fishing.saltwater

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If you’re gonna be on the east End of Long Island, there are three shops in east hampton. Paul Dixon, who used to manage Orvis in NYC, has a shop in EH called Dixon’s sporting life and he runs flats boats on Gardiners Bay for Strippers and blues. There’s another fellow between EH and Amagagansett who has a french name which I do not recall right now. His shop is Lure and Feather and its worth checking out. Finally, there’s Harvey Bennett and the Amagansett tackle shop where Fly fishing is not the only show, but he’s worth checking out. For flats fishing check out gardiners bay. On a map this is the area north of the south Fork where it gets wide just east of EH. There are some beaches that provide access to the water, but you may have to talk to the town offices to find out where you could park without a required permit. It is NY afterall. Gerard Drive, which seperates Gardiners bay from Accabonac Harbort is Beautiful. Have a good time.

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I WILL BE IN THE LONG ISLAND AREA IN THE EARLY SUMMER.  ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR SALT WATER FLY OPPORTUNITIES?

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I’d like to doing some salt action in the chessequake state park area this spring from the beach area, any suggestions as to time(apr,may, june?), and specific locations?

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GBloom, Bay Head Outfitters, in Bay Head N.J. should be able to answer all you questions. Regards, Ed

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I WILL BE IN THE LONG ISLAND AREA IN THE EARLY SUMMER.  ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR SALT WATER FLY OPPORTUNITIES?

Try   rec.outdoors.fishing.fly   You have e better chance for good info there.

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Anyone have a fix on how the fishing is at the reef? I hear the blues are running?

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I will be in CT next week.  Can you tell me about flyfishing activity in your area and any guide service. Thanks in advance, Wayne Dream Big, Dare to Fail

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Anyone been to the South Platte lately?  Have any luck?  If so, what on, and how was it rigged?  Any ideas, advice or info on this river would be appreciated. You could see from my headers/.sig that I’m in Colorado, but I don’t get down to the Platte very much.

Mike. I’m disappointed.  You should have dropped me aline!  Anyway, the rivers up 130CFS, and fishing is quite good.  SJW’s, Miracle Nymphs, Brassies, and of course the ubiquitous Buckskin.  Get up here while the water’s still up, and you should get some fishing.  Also: small midge stuff(18-24) will work right now.  Canyons a zoo as always, best seems to be below Trumbull as far as Oxyoke.  Seen some guys below oxyoke but no clue to their success. Swayback Chaz

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: Anyone been to the South Platte lately?  Have any luck?  If so, what on, : and how was it rigged?  Any ideas, advice or info on this river would be : appreciated. : You could see from my headers/.sig that I’m in Colorado, but I don’t get down : to the Platte very much.         The best suggestion that  I could think of for the South Platte would be to get a copy of Roger Hill’s (I think that is his name) book "Flyfishing the South Platte".  It is a very well written book and goes through hatches, patterns, etc,etc…         I just started fishing (fly) about 6 months ago and have caught lots of fish down in Cheesman and Waterton Canyons…         A few brief words of advice from my box, never go down there without RS-2 (sz 18-22), something colorful like red disco midges (sz 20), san juan worms if the flow is high, and scuds.  There are lots of other nymphs that do real well down there also…         Good luck!!!!!

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: muskrat/copper. Terminal setup: 6′ braided butt to about 3X, then a 3.5′ 8X : tippet, BB shot about 10" up from the fly, indicator adj to depth. 8X ?!?!? You gotta be kidding me !  It must take you 30 minutes to land a 10 inch fish ?  These fish is gonna die my man… With a friendly tone, Tim Walker

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: : Anyone been to the South Platte lately?  Have any luck?  If so, what on, : : and how was it rigged?  Any ideas, advice or info on this river would be : : appreciated. The So. Platte from Cheesman down is (IMHO) a complete waste of time. It used to be wonderful.  Now the snobs line the banks and the fish themselves turn their noses up at your flies.  Why anyone would drive south from Ft. Collins is beyond me.  Go North my man.  Wyoming awaits you. But, if you go to the Platte, take along your 7X and your Orvis addition Jeep. Happy Holidays, Tim Walker

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone been to the South Platte lately?  Have any luck?  If so, what on, and how was it rigged?  Any ideas, advice or info on this river would be appreciated. You could see from my headers/.sig that I’m in Colorado, but I don’t get down to the Platte very much. Mike. I’m disappointed.  You should have dropped me aline!  Anyway, the rivers up 130CFS, and fishing is quite good.  SJW’s, Miracle Nymphs, Brassies, and of course the ubiquitous Buckskin.  Get up here while the water’s still up, and you should get some fishing.  Also: small midge stuff(18-24) will work right now.  Canyons a zoo as always, best seems to be below Trumbull as far as Oxyoke.  Seen some guys below oxyoke but no clue to their success. Swayback Chaz

Went last week and yesterday, fished Trumbull both times. The flow has been 130 for awhile now, but I can’t say the fishing’s been that good. Landed 4-5 fish each trip, all later in the day. Half on a #22 red midge larvae, half on #24 muskrat/copper. Terminal setup: 6′ braided butt to about 3X, then a 3.5′ 8X tippet, BB shot about 10" up from the fly, indicator adj to depth. Wouldn’t bother below Oxyoke, lots of ice. Probably frozen across around Night- hawk on down. — Dave Ridge Storage Technology Corp

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 The So. Platte from Cheesman down is (IMHO) a complete waste of time.  It used to be wonderful.  Now the snobs line the banks and the fish  themselves turn their noses up at your flies.  Why anyone would  drive south from Ft. Collins is beyond me.  Go North my man.  Wyoming  awaits you. I don’t know about snobs lining the banks, but the guides sure are since Spinney has fallen on hard times. However I don’t

know where one would find open water this time of year within a reasonable drive. Yours virtually, Gary W. Godden Denver, Colorado

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Anyone been to the South Platte lately?  Have any luck?  If so, what on, and how was it rigged?  Any ideas, advice or info on this river would be appreciated. You could see from my headers/.sig that I’m in Colorado, but I don’t get down to the Platte very much.

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