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I’m gonna avoid the rush and start hating you now! I Love the north country and wish I could get back there. Any room in your luggage for me?? Enjoy! Dan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Okay guys — I’m all tricked out with Bob R2’s Secret Weapons and am headed to the great white north to slug it out with the toothy critters.  Am also packing a fly rod and hope to get in a few rounds with Arctic Grayling.  As I’ve never caught a Grayling, I really have no idea what size to expect.  My goal for Northern Pike seven pound lake trout is a baby compared to some of the ones caught from these waters (Northern Alberta and Southern NWT), so maybe I’ll hook into a 30 pounder. Hope all you guys catch a bunch of bass while I’m away and I get to read all about it when I return.  See you in late July! —– Family, Friends, Fishing Rob Storm http://www.stormsrestaurants.com

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Hey Rob, On your way north, stop and pick me up…ok?  Go gettum tiger and remember, those aren’t bass you’re catching so don’t try to lip them.  :) —

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Good luck, Rob. We are with you in spirit at least. — Bob Rickard SECRET WEAPON — World’s absolute finest spinnerbaits! All others are now obsolete . . . See for yourself at http://inetsa.com/user/secretweapon

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Okay guys — I’m all tricked out with Bob R2’s Secret Weapons and am headed to the great white north to slug it out with the toothy critters.  Am also packing a fly rod and hope to get in a few rounds with Arctic Grayling.  As I’ve never caught a Grayling, I really have no idea what size to expect.  My goal for Northern Pike seven pound lake trout is a baby compared to some of the ones caught from these waters (Northern Alberta and Southern NWT), so maybe I’ll hook into a 30 pounder. Hope all you guys catch a bunch of bass while I’m away and I get to read all about it when I return.  See you in late July! —– Family, Friends, Fishing Rob Storm http://www.stormsrestaurants.com

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Okay guys — I’m all tricked out with Bob R2’s Secret Weapons and am headed to the great white north to slug it out with the toothy critters.  Am also packing a fly rod and hope to get in a few rounds with Arctic Grayling.  As I’ve never caught a Grayling, I really have no idea what size to expect.  My goal for Northern Pike pound lake trout is a baby compared to some of the ones caught from these waters (Northern Alberta and Southern NWT), so maybe I’ll hook into a 30 pounder.   Hope all you guys catch a bunch of bass while I’m away and I get to read all about it when I return.  See you in late July! —– Family, Friends, Fishing Rob Storm http://www.stormsrestaurants.com

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Have a great trip Rob.  If your wife packed your clothes, check your tackle box for your underwear. — Consider Him

| Okay guys — | I’m all tricked out with Bob R2’s Secret Weapons and am headed to the great | white north to slug it out with the toothy critters.  Am also packing a fly rod | and hope to get in a few rounds with Arctic Grayling.  As I’ve never caught a | Grayling, I really have no idea what size to expect.  My goal for Northern Pike seven | pound lake trout is a baby compared to some of the ones caught from these | waters (Northern Alberta and Southern NWT), so maybe I’ll hook into a 30 | pounder. | | Hope all you guys catch a bunch of bass while I’m away and I get to read all | about it when I return.  See you in late July! | —– | Family, Friends, Fishing | Rob Storm | http://www.stormsrestaurants.com

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Mike, I took you’re advice, cooked the arse end of the seat off, popped the spigot out, cleaned off the spigot and blank, epoxied the inside of the blank well, shoved the spigot in with a dowel, cleaned the epoxy off with alcohol, and then glued the reel seat back together again.  Elapsed time – a little over ten minutes. The East Branch rods are some of the prettiest out their, very good quality components, tubes, etc.  They’re superb fishing instruments as anyone who has one can attest.  But EB fell down on simple aspects of execution – both the spigot and the reel seat had very little glue on them – the reel seat came apart after only about 30 seconds in hot water.  By comparison, it took about ten minutes to cook the reel seat off my Cabelas Stowaway. The wraps at the end the ferrules are very sparse and probably contribute to much of the breakage.  Sometimes questionable guide placement contributed to the risk of breakage. It’s a pity that such nice rods were let down by such littler things. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Mike, I took you’re advice, cooked the arse end of the seat off, <SNIP Peter Visit The Streamer Page at

http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html I thought you would   Slapdash repairs are just disasters waiting to happen, and you do not seem the type who would risk that on decent fishing gear. If the rod is as nice as you say, I would certainly rewrap the ferrule ends etc, and carry out any other modifications required.  Sparse ferrule wrappings are indeed the cause of much breakage, loose ferrules also. It does not take much time really, and is invariably worth the trouble. If the spigot ( the part inside the rod butt section) is on the short side, I would give the blank here a generous wrapping as well. This sometimes ruins the symmetry of appearance, but saves a lot of buggering about usually. One may often compensate to a degree by lengthening other wraps to suit. Sparse, and overtight whippings are often a problem. If the whipping compresses or otherwise deforms the blank, then it is also a disaster waiting to happen. Somebody mentioned that this manufacturer used "Elmers Glue", I am not familiar with this, but having experimented quite a lot with various things, I would never use anything other than the various epoxy grades for rod repairs nowadays. Even though I only do repairs for friends etc, and not for money, they would doubtless not be too enthusiastic about failures caused by shoddy work. (Perhaps I should mess up a few repairs? it would reduce my workload ! I have always maintained that the main difference between relatively cheap, and relatively expensive rods, is the cosmetics, and the care taken in production.  If you wrap and otherwise build up even a cheap blank with good hardware etc, then you invariably have a reliable and long lived fishing tool,.  Nice if the action etc suits you as well of course ! Rather a shame that a manufacturer should skimp on such relatively simple things, and thus fold. Especially one who otherwise seemed OK. TL MC

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mike, I took you’re advice, cooked the arse end of the seat off, <SNIP Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html I thought you would   Slapdash repairs are just disasters waiting to happen, and you do not seem the type who would risk that on decent fishing gear. [snip] Rather a shame that a manufacturer should skimp on such relatively simple things, and thus fold. Especially one who otherwise seemed OK. TL MC

Greg was just being sarcastic with the Elmer’s glue comment – he too is an EB customer with a story or two to tell.  The wraps and stripper guide positions on mine seem OK but Greg had a great EB rod snap due to a combination of stripper guide placement and insufficient wraps. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Somebody mentioned that this manufacturer used "Elmers Glue", I am not familiar with this

Elmer’s Glue is a simple water soluble white glue.  It’s manufactured by Borden’s which is a big dairy company.  Their company logos are Elsie the Cow (on dairy products) and Elmer the Bull (on glue products).  Elmer’s primary ingredient used to be casein, milk protein.  It’s a decent glue on porous materials as long as it stays dry. One of the cool things you can do with it is coat your skin (it dries clear) and freak people out by peeling it off in big sheets.  Probably every American school kid has done that. –Stan OBROFF – Elmer’s is a terrible fly floatant.

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<SNIP –Stan OBROFF – Elmer’s is a terrible fly floatant.

Maybe it is a good sinkant?  :) Thanks for the info Stan.  Sometimes quite a problem explaining just exactly what proprietary products are, makes some things very difficult to understand properly. TL MC

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Peter why not contact East Branch??? I talked to the guy at the Marlboro flyfishing show, and he seems a good guy. would probably be a minimal charge or none for such a repair. and you’ll have someone doing it with all the right tools. if they mess it up, you’ll probably get a new rod.   TD – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just had the butt section spigot come unglued on one rod (wants to slip back into the butt) and the re-gluing will be an adventure.  I’m thinking of getting some R/C model airplane CA glue (extremely watery) that will penetrate the full length of the spigot.  I doubt there’s enough space for me to get any appreciable amounts of epoxy in there. Anybody ever try using CA glue on a rod repair. (ya Greg, it’s East Branch – the 4 wt.) Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html If you can do so, it is better to remove the spigot altogether. It is usually possible to push it straight down the butt section, and after removing the butt cap, simply push it out. Using a fine round file or similar, and being careful not to remove any rod material, clean out the tip of the butt section, of any glue remnants etc. Clean the spigot as well.   Then, using a piece of dowel, long thin steel rod,  or similar, apply epoxy to the inside of the butt tip, and simply push the spigot back into place using a long thin steel rod or similar.  This works well, and is a permanent and reliable repair. CA glue is not reliable for repairs on flexing parts. The bond invariably cracks, usually quite quickly. If you wish to try it, warming up slow drying epoxy makes it extremely "runny", at least as runny as CA glue. It also decreases the setting time a great deal, so be careful.  Just pour this carefully around the spigot.  I have only ever tried this once, and it worked OK. ( I was unable to remove the spigot entirely ). One last possibility is to cover the spigot itself in epoxy, and carefully rotate and push this back down into the rod. Hold the tip of the spigot with a pair of pliers or similar, and be extremely careful not to let go of it. When the epoxy is distributed, just pull the spigot back into place, and remove the excess epoxy, using alcohol or similar. TL MC

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As a builder of r/c airplane models: in fact there is very little flex involved in most airframes (nor is flex desired). We try to build out flex as it detracts from precise control. Beyond that, the glue joints in an airframe are almost always stronger than the materials being joined (given that usually those materials are wood). And for joints that really need to be strong (firewalls, gear mounting blocks,  wing joins, etc)  we definitely use epoxy – and the slower the set, the better… /daytripper (check out my Super Chipmunk at http://www.ultranet.com/~haigt/rcstuff/chipmunk.html ) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you can do so, it is better to remove the spigot altogether. It is usually possible to push it straight down the butt section, and after removing the butt cap, simply push it out. Using a fine round file or similar, and being careful not to remove any rod material, clean out the tip of the butt section, of any glue remnants etc. Clean the spigot as well.   Then, using a piece of dowel, long thin steel rod,  or similar, apply epoxy to the inside of the butt tip, and simply push the spigot back into place using a long thin steel rod or similar.  This works well, and is a permanent and reliable repair. This had been my initial instincts but being fundamentally lazy, I was looking for an easy alternative. CA glue is not reliable for repairs on flexing parts. The bond invariably cracks, usually quite quickly. There’s a lot of flexing in R/C model airplanes yet I’ve never heard of glue joint failure with CA glues.  Perhaps these glues are a bit different?  The butt on this rod is quite hefty (10 1/2 footer) – there isn’t much flex in it. If you wish to try it, warming up slow drying epoxy makes it extremely "runny", at least as runny as CA glue. It also decreases the setting time a great deal, so be careful.  Just pour this carefully around the spigot.  I have only ever tried this once, and it worked OK. ( I was unable to remove the spigot entirely ). One last possibility is to cover the spigot itself in epoxy, and carefully rotate and push this back down into the rod. Hold the tip of the spigot with a pair of pliers or similar, and be extremely careful not to let go of it. When the epoxy is distributed, just pull the spigot back into place, and remove the excess epoxy, using alcohol or similar. TL MC Thanks Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As a builder of r/c airplane models: in fact there is very little flex involved in most airframes (nor is flex desired). We try to build out flex as it detracts from precise control. Beyond that, the glue joints in an airframe are almost always stronger than the materials being joined (given that usually those materials are wood). And for joints that really need to be strong (firewalls, gear mounting blocks,  wing joins, etc)  we definitely use epoxy – and the slower the set, the better… /daytripper (check out my Super Chipmunk at http://www.ultranet.com/~haigt/rcstuff/chipmunk.html )

You in that racket too.  I’ve been building the things off and on since the sixties.  You’re right of course, we don’t want flex but you can be sure that the airframe and wings are really "working" in gusty conditions or when pulling G (or when hitting the ground.)  I have an old bird built in ‘77 with white glue that has held together well, except for the control hinges.  I have a couple of new ones done with CA and so far, so good –  mind you, I haven’t had them out in the last couple of years.

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. There’s a lot of flexing in R/C model airplanes yet I’ve never heard of glue joint failure with CA glues.  Perhaps these glues are a bit different?  The butt on this rod is quite hefty (10 1/2 footer) – there isn’t much flex in it.

My neighbour builds radio controlled model aeroplanes, and he also uses CA glue for some things. I just had a word with him, and he tells me that the stuff he uses also cracks easily apparently.  Most of the flex is in the airframe itself, the actual joints are rigid.  He says that even a mild "crash" will crack CA joints. He also says that this is actually often desirable, as the cracking of the glue joints apparently acts as a sort of shock absorber, and the actual glued parts are not damaged, and may simply be glued again. I don

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Hello Ken, This is something I’ve been doing quite a bit in the last couple of years. I’m certainly no expert, but here are a few thoughts.. For tackle I recommend a fairly stiff 8 weight rod with a Lamson reel.  You can get away with Pfleuger or a Scientific Angler but they’ll require more care and aren’t as smooth.  Use 20 lb. dacron backing.  Nothing your going to hook is going to run that far.  Even a big red usually stays within 100 yds of where he was hooked so you don’t need Bonefish gear. This rig will handle bass, redfish, speckled trout and the occasional flounder.  You’ll have to deal with wind.  Just the way it goes.  Try the Scientific Anglers Mastery series Wind Cheater line.  Helps a bit.  I also use a slow sinking line a lot and it’s a bit easier to cast into the wind.  I’d go with the Wind Cheater to start with.  Takes some of the edge off of being a beginner. The single most effective lure for me is a chartreuse/white Clouser minnow. Works on Reds and Specks under most circumstances.  Later you can go with some crab patterns for Reds and some Seaducers and Leftys Deceivers for Specks. Don’t discount Crazy Charlies either.. great under the lights for Specks. There are other patterns.. Roadkills, different shrimp imitations, but if you head out with half-a-dozen Clousers and a couple or lighter streamers, you’ll handle most of what you encounter. Is this what you wanted to know? Andy Schreckenghost Houston TX – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am new to fly fishing and in need of information for fishing in the coastal bend.  For instance reel and rod recommendations.  I hear that the wind is a consideration when fishing in the bay. I would appreciate any information. Thank you, Ken Clay

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I am new to fly fishing and in need of information for fishing in the coastal bend.  For instance reel and rod recommendations.  I hear that the wind is a consideration when fishing in the bay. I would appreciate any information. Thank you, Ken Clay

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I’ll be in the Denver area next weekend and have 1 day free for some fly fishing.  Any suggestions on where to go this time of year? Don

Hi Don, Denver sits on the banks of Lake Norman. It’s a lake full of specs, bass, catfish, and panfish. The Catawba river flows into it and out of it through a dam. It’s a great place to fish and relax here in the NC piedmont. It does get hot as hell in the summer though. Ooops, oh, that Denver……sorry, Waldo…to damn early in the am.

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I’ll be in the Denver area next weekend and have 1 day free for some fly fishing.  Any suggestions on where to go this time of year? Don

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I’ll be in southern Alabama in July–Eastern Mobile Bay/Gulf Shores area–and in addition to surf fishing hope to do some flyfishing as well. Has anyone had any experience in this area? Any locations to recommend? I’ve noted a Weeks Bay wildlife area, as well as some other bays and lagoons…what’s running in July and what flys will call up the fish? Any info is appreciated, and thanks.         JK/Newport, KY

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I’ll be in southern Alabama in July–Eastern Mobile Bay/Gulf Shores area–and in addition to surf fishing hope to do some flyfishing as well. Has anyone had any experience in this area? Any locations to recommend? I’ve noted a Weeks Bay wildlife area, as well as some other bays and lagoons…what’s running in July and what flys will call up the fish? Any info is appreciated, and thanks.

I have fished Fort Morgan & Gulf Shores area for many years.  A few years ago I began Saltwater Fly fishing with decent success.  If you fish early in the morning and late in the afternoon you stand a chance of catching Bluefish, Skipjack (ladyfish), occasional redfish, and speckled trout.  Mostly fish clouser minnows, and basically any minnow pattern in white or yellow base color.  We have had much luck attaching a popper to the line about 18 to 24 inches above the fly.  If you happen to catch a school of feeding fish close to the beach, you are in for much excitement.  Plan on using a shooting taper line or a floating line with a sink tip.  The wind can be tough at times and casting is a bear.  Best of Luck,  BCC

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I have wrapped 5-6 fly rods duringh the last year. On  the first rod I applied color preserver that came with the( Seymo) 2-part epoxy set for the thread wraps. The result was not good – probably because I had nott managed to apply the color preserver evenly over the entire wraps. for my next rods I did not use any color preserver – just the epoxy and the result is much nicer. The color of the thread darkens somewhat, but I know it in advance and it is no problem at all. My thory is that color preserver may have been necessary for older types of wrapping  thread with properties different from those of modern  threads, but today it is superfluous for normal wrapping. Information/opinnions welcomed! Regards jJan Erik Frithjofsen

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have wrapped 5-6 fly rods duringh the last year. On  the first rod I applied color preserver that came with the( Seymo) 2-part epoxy set for the thread wraps. The result was not good – probably because I had nott managed to apply the color preserver evenly over the entire wraps. for my next rods I did not use any color preserver – just the epoxy and the result is much nicer. The color of the thread darkens somewhat, but I know it in advance and it is no problem at all. My thory is that color preserver may have been necessary for older types of wrapping  thread with properties different from those of modern  threads, but today it is superfluous for normal wrapping. Information/opinnions welcomed! Regards jJan Erik Frithjofsen

I have found the same thing—-I don’t use it. KNACK TEXAS

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 Some threads need color preserver, if not used the color will change. Gudebrod has winding thread that is color fast.

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<snip for my next rods I did not use any color preserver – just the epoxy and the result is much nicer. The color of the thread darkens somewhat, but I know it in advance and it is no problem at all. My thory is that color preserver may have been necessary for older types of wrapping  thread with properties different from those of modern  threads, but today it is superfluous for normal wrapping.

I never worry about the colour of my whippings, some of my rods have three or four different colours on em. Most important is to make them as dull as possible, if a rod is brightly finished matt brown paint will kill the reflections nicely.  I always feel uncomfortable using a rod which flashes when I cast, the only exception being the rods I use night fishing. A side effect of the dull paint jobs is that my tackle is less attractive to thieves Tight lines, —

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I have wrapped 5-6 fly rods duringh the last year. On  the first rod I applied color preserver that came with the( Seymo) 2-part epoxy set for the thread wraps. The result was not good – probably because I had nott managed to apply the color preserver evenly over the entire wraps. for my next rods I did not use any color preserver – just the epoxy and the result is much nicer. The color of the thread darkens somewhat, but I know it in advance and it is no problem at all. My thory is that color preserver may have been necessary for older types of wrapping  thread with properties different from those of modern  threads, but today it is superfluous for normal wrapping. Information/opinnions welcomed! Regards jJan Erik Frithjofsen

Hi Erik, If you are wrapping a rod with red, white and blue threads and it is not NCP(no color preserver) thread you will have a noticeable change in your colors if you do not use color preserver. Most fly rods today are wrapped with shades that match the color of the blanks more closely than that of the salt water conventional rods for example. Your finish will penetrate the thread better without color preserver. Threads usually darken and appear more translucent without color preserver. I would say that Jan/Feb is the peak of the rod building season in North American.   Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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Frithjofsen) writes:  *SNIP*

My thory is that color preserver may have been necessary for older types of wrapping  thread with properties different from those of

modern  threads, but today it is superfluous for normal wrapping.

Color preserver has never been necessary to the functionality or durability of the rod. It was (and is) a cosmetic feature.  It coats the wraps without changing their color, and then when you varnish or epoxy these wraps, the varnish or epoxy never touches the wraps to change their color, but coats and bonds the color preserver to the blank.  There has been an on-going controversy over whether or not this is as durable as using varnish or epoxy without color preserver.  Without color preserver the varnish/epoxy penetrates the thread and bonds it directly to the blank.  With color preserver it coats the preserver but does not penetrate the thread. Varnish/epoxy without color preserver usually darkens the color of the wrap. At the Orvis store in SF we used to have a section of a blank wrapped with all the colors we sold and varnished with 4 coats of Gudebrod’s Glass Rod Varnish (Polyurethane based varnish) which gave the same finish as that on the Orvis premium rods.  All of the colors (Gudebrod thread) were darkened, some more than others.  Bright red became dark red, light brown turned a dark milk-chocolate in color.  2 coats of epoxy would be comparable (although much higher build) and is the industry standard.  Was handy to show people what the final color would look like.  Don’t know if it’s still around since the rod building supplies are no longer carried in the Orvis SF store and I am no longer there.   They can still be ordered, but little if any are in stock. The main reason color preservers became popular was for all the decorative wrapping done on conventional spin/baitcasting/boat rod equipment.                                    Good Fishing (and finishing),                                               Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have wrapped 5-6 fly rods duringh the last year. On  the first rod I applied color preserver that came with the( Seymo) 2-part epoxy set for the thread wraps. The result was not good – probably because I had nott managed to apply the color preserver evenly over the entire wraps. for my next rods I did not use any color preserver – just the epoxy and the result is much nicer. The color of the thread darkens somewhat, but I know it in advance and it is no problem at all. My thory is that color preserver may have been necessary for older types of wrapping  thread with properties different from those of modern  threads, but today it is superfluous for normal wrapping. Information/opinnions welcomed! Regards jJan Erik Frithjofsen

I continue to use color preserver for 2 reasons.  First,  I want predictability in the finished colors of my wraps. Second, I have had occasion to wear out and need to replace guides.  If you allow the epoxy to soak through the un-preserved threads, it is a holy bitch to get the blank cleaned up to replace the wrap.  Threads that have been treated with color preserver come right off and you can clean up the wrap area with a single edged razor blade pretty easily.   — Andrew Brunette

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I don’t have ten favorite flies and I would be hard pressed to just to give you the names of 30 flies.  To me "favorite fly" means the one I like best, not 10 or 30.  My favorite dry fly is a modified Horner Deer Hair, which tells you nothing because you have no idea how I modify it.  Jack Horner is the inventor of the Humpy or Goofus Bug which is my next to my favorite dry fly.  My favorite wet fly is a Western Coachnan and my favorite streamer is one of Keith Fulshers flies from his book "Tying and Fishing the Thunder Creek Series". — Remove NOSPAM to send E-mail Ernie Harrison – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – PEOPLE! I didn’t want to know a 10 fly collection, I wanted to know your 10 favorite dries, your 10 favorite wets, your ten favorite nymphs, and your 10 favorite streamers. Bryce Carron Santa Fe, Texas

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PEOPLE! I didn’t want to know a 10 fly collection, I wanted to know your 10 favorite dries, your 10 favorite wets, your ten favorite nymphs, and your 10 favorite streamers. Bryce Carron Santa Fe, Texas

PERSON !!   I do not want to tell you !   Harry

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PEOPLE! I didn’t want to know a 10 fly collection, I wanted to know your 10 favorite dries, your 10 favorite wets, your ten favorite nymphs, and your 10 favorite streamers. Bryce Carron Santa Fe, Texas

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PEOPLE! I didn’t want to know a 10 fly collection, I wanted to know your 10 favorite dries, your 10 favorite wets, your ten favorite nymphs, and your 10 favorite streamers.

Now you’re telling us the rules! My fly box isn’t that big, and I can’t remember all the names, just what works. 12 green ones, 16 black, 4 red, and 8 brown. Some are multi colored but who’s counting. — Doug Knight                           metalfab<atpacbell.net Junk e-mail, solicitation, sales, products and services gladly accepted at $500.00 per mailing and billed directly to your ISP.

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I find smokers, even in the great outdoors, obnoxious.  More so with every year.  One whiff is enough to get to me. I can understand how downwind Viet Cong could have sneaked up on a GI foolish enough to light up.

Obnoxiously yours, TimW

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I don’t who’s worse, you (your kind) or the PETA a..holes. If you don’t like smoking, don’t fish with someone who does. You rest assured you and your kind won’t be fishing with me.

Even when I smoked I found discarded cigarette butts obnoxious, I don’t find them any less so now that I quit. You don’t have to fish with a smoker to be bothered by one<g. FWIW. Charlie…

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Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen and fly-fishermen smoke.

Uh oh…What are you *really* up to this time, Muskie? ;^) 1. How many of you enjoy smoking cigarettes while fishing?

Yup. I enjoy them much more than the blackflies and ’squitos – which fortunately do not like second-hand smoke… 2. How many of you smoke cigars while fishing? Do you inhale?

No and No. 3. How many of you smoke while fishing, but hate it?

Not me. 4. Have any of you been heavy smokers, and quit smoking,   but had trouble due to the associations of "pleasure" while smoking    and fishing?  Do you folks associate smoking with fishing and campfires?

No, and Sometimes. 5. How many of you regret quitting smoking while fishing?

N/A – but I *know* I’d regret it if I did (see #1) 6. How many of you are happy you quit smoking, and are happier fishing without smoking?

N/A. I can see it now: "Muskies World Famous Smokeless Fishin’ Chaw" ;^) Cheers! /dave <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp.             Alpha Server Engineering < < Parker Street Campus                    Maynard, Massachusetts < < !!NOTE: Remove ".no-spam" from address to respond by email!! < <<<<<<<<<<<<<< AMA 548313 <<<<<<<<<<<<< Disclaimer: Opinions expressed herein may not be shared by             my employer, etc…

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Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen and fly-fishermen smoke. 1. How many of you enjoy smoking cigarettes while fishing?

Me, for one 2. How many of you smoke cigars while fishing? Do you inhale?

No & No 3. How many of you smoke while fishing, but hate it?

Sometimes – I guess a love/hate relationship 4. Have any of you been heavy smokers, and quit smoking,   but had trouble due to the associations of "pleasure" while smoking    and fishing?  Do you folks associate smoking with fishing and campfires?

No. I associate smoking with just about everything, unfortunately. 5. How many of you regret quitting smoking while fishing?

Only have when I’ve run out or forgotten my cigs, and I regret it then. 6. How many of you are happy you quit smoking, and are happier fishing without smoking?

I’m sure I would be happy to have quit, but haven’t had the resolve to try it yet and succeed.  I am quite certain I would be able to fish longer if I quit, at least those places that are worth fishing.  Thank You for any comments.  Tight Lines! —–Muskie

-Charlie Miller

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Sorry.  I meant to say that I find tobacco smoke, rather than smokers, obnoxious.  Some smokers are obnoxious but not much more frequently than non-smokers are.  The obnoxious smokers are those that do not seem to know, or want to know that their emissions are extremely annoying.

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I don’t who’s worse, you (your kind) or the PETA a..holes. If you don’t like smoking, don’t fish with someone who does. You rest assured you and your kind won’t be fishing with me. Even when I smoked I found discarded cigarette butts obnoxious, I don’t find them any less so now that I quit. You don’t have to fish with a smoker to be bothered by one<g. FWIW.

Many fish taken from the roaring fork contain cig butts when cleaned. They are not my favorite for the oven. TimW

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Sometimes it’s a lot of fun to go fishing and smoke a big, fat joint. I’ve done this in the past, though I seldom do anymore since I quit smoking cigs (I used to smoke 2 packs of Marlboro Reds a day, this at the ripe old age of twenty! I quit cold turkey and have no real desire to smoke again) If I still smoked pot that much I’d probably get stoned a lot during fishing outings, especially in the mountains. Either pot or hash would be fun. Opium would definetely be a gas! Spinolio

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MF MF    but had trouble due to the associations of "pleasure" while smoking MF     and fishing?  Do you folks associate smoking with fishing and MF campfires? Ahhhhhhhh makes me miss home and the summer.  I remember years ago in my HS physics classes daydreaming and drawing pix of the campsite, complete with incomplete cabin (now well on the way to being complete), the Swaboda Memorial firepit, the lakeshore, etc.  That firepit figures big.  Nothing like after a day of fishing sitting around that fire and just staring into it and sipping bourbon or roasting hot dog and talking with fine friends. Take Care! This Son of Green Bay Wisconsin says:  GO PACK GO! All Standard Disclaimers Apply.  Anyone who says likewise is itching for a fight! My real e-mail address is given above.

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I find smokers, even in the great outdoors, obnoxious.  More so with every year.  One whiff is enough to get to me. I can understand how downwind Viet Cong could have sneaked up on a GI foolish enough to light up. William Buchman

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I don’t who’s worse, you (your kind) or the PETA a..holes. If you don’t like smoking, don’t fish with someone who does. You rest assured you and your kind won’t be fishing with me. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I find smokers, even in the great outdoors, obnoxious.  More so with every year.  One whiff is enough to get to me. I can understand how downwind Viet Cong could have sneaked up on a GI foolish enough to light up. William Buchman

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Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen and fly-fishermen smoke. 1. How many of you enjoy smoking cigarettes while fishing?

I sure enjoy them.  It’s a hassle always casting upwind, but it’s worth it.  Thank You for any comments.  Tight Lines! —–Muskie

  One fishing buddy of mine had quit smoking for 4 or 5 years.  We would do 2 or 3 long weekends fishing in northern Wisconsin each year.  At some point in every trip, in the boat, but only ONCE, he would ask for a drag of my cigarette.  This happened for about 5 years running.  This is the ONLY time I ever saw him smoke.     Good questions, Muskie.  Since I still smoke, I fear how it will be if I quit, then go fishing.  Will I backslide?  Maybe I’ll have to bring whiskey or drugs instead of beer when I fish.   I don’t worry about a smoke after sex, since I usually fall right to sleep, or a smoke after eating, since I can take a nap.   My top fear is not being able to smoke while fishing, followed closely by my fear of not being able to smoke while crapping.   –Vic

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen and fly-fishermen smoke. 1. How many of you enjoy smoking cigarettes while fishing? 2. How many of you smoke cigars while fishing? Do you inhale? 3. How many of you smoke while fishing, but hate it? 4. Have any of you been heavy smokers, and quit smoking,   but had trouble due to the associations of "pleasure" while smoking    and fishing?  Do you folks associate smoking with fishing and campfires? 5. How many of you regret quitting smoking while fishing? 6. How many of you are happy you quit smoking, and are happier fishing without smoking?  Thank You for any comments.  Tight Lines! —–Muskie

I still smoke and often feel fishing is a time when I want a cigarette most. BUT, the cigs always cause trouble- hard to light in the wind, they get wet, the lighter gets wet, matches get wet, hands get cold, smoke in the eyes when casting, out of cigs, concentrating on cig while missing bite,what to do with the cig at a strike, what to do with the butt, etc. Maybe next summer I’ll have quit- and I bet I catch more fish! I’ll miss the quick line cuts and mosquito defense.

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I smoke cicarettes while smoking. I enjoy smoking and, coincidentally, have found I catch more fish while I have a cigarette in my mouth. writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen and fly-fishermen smoke. 1. How many of you enjoy smoking cigarettes while fishing? 2. How many of you smoke cigars while fishing? Do you inhale? 3. How many of you smoke while fishing, but hate it? 4. Have any of you been heavy smokers, and quit smoking,   but had trouble due to the associations of "pleasure" while smoking    and fishing?  Do you folks associate smoking with fishing and campfires? 5. How many of you regret quitting smoking while fishing? 6. How many of you are happy you quit smoking, and are happier fishing without smoking?  Thank You for any comments.  Tight Lines! —–Muskie

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen and fly-fishermen smoke. 1. How many of you enjoy smoking cigarettes while fishing? 2. How many of you smoke cigars while fishing? Do you inhale? 3. How many of you smoke while fishing, but hate it? 4. Have any of you been heavy smokers, and quit smoking,   but had trouble due to the associations of "pleasure" while smoking    and fishing?  Do you folks associate smoking with fishing and campfires? 5. How many of you regret quitting smoking while fishing? 6. How many of you are happy you quit smoking, and are happier fishing without smoking?  Thank You for any comments.  Tight Lines! —–Muskie

Peter..         Coming to you from North Carolina…I enjoy a good couple of cigars while I flyfish…It is hard to fish and enjoy the smoke at the same time; but once you get the hang of it is adds to the total experience..         Steve

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen  and fly-fishermen smoke. 1. How many of you enjoy smoking cigarettes while fishing? 2. How many of you smoke cigars while fishing? Do you inhale? 3. How many of you smoke while fishing, but hate it? 4. Have any of you been heavy smokers, and quit smoking,    but had trouble due to the associations of "pleasure" while smoking     and fishing?  Do you folks associate smoking with fishing and campfires? 5. How many of you regret quitting smoking while fishing? 6. How many of you are happy you quit smoking, and are happier fishing without smoking?   Thank You for any comments.  Tight Lines! —–Muskie

You 4got smokeless tobacco. I really enjoy Kodiak.  But hate Cig smoke will I fish, Then again I can say the same when I’m not fishin. Later…..Dae Balto.,  MD http://www.attach.net/users/webster/frame.html

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen and fly-fishermen smoke. 1. How many of you enjoy smoking cigarettes while fishing? 2. How many of you smoke cigars while fishing? Do you inhale? 3. How many of you smoke while fishing, but hate it? 4. Have any of you been heavy smokers, and quit smoking,   but had trouble due to the associations of "pleasure" while smoking    and fishing?  Do you folks associate smoking with fishing and campfires? 5. How many of you regret quitting smoking while fishing? 6. How many of you are happy you quit smoking, and are happier fishing without smoking?  Thank You for any comments.  Tight Lines! —–Muskie

domain so I smoked there.  I was worried about the fishing connection when I quit 4 years ago, but it has not been a concern. I don’t think about it.    Over the years I lost 2 sinking lures to the depths when I inadvertantly touched the cigarette to monofilament…….it melts REAL fast Peter blackwood

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen  and fly-fishermen smoke. 1. How many of you enjoy smoking cigarettes while fishing? 2. How many of you smoke cigars while fishing? Do you inhale? 3. How many of you smoke while fishing, but hate it? 4. Have any of you been heavy smokers, and quit smoking,    but had trouble due to the associations of "pleasure" while smoking     and fishing?  Do you folks associate smoking with fishing and campfires? 5. How many of you regret quitting smoking while fishing? 6. How many of you are happy you quit smoking, and are happier fishing without smoking?   Thank You for any comments.  Tight Lines! —–Muskie

How many of us have already been down this thread before. PLEEEESE don’t resurrect this moronic subject. If you must, take it on over to alt.hack.cough.ack. —   Montana…Where men are men and the sheep are nervous.

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 Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen  and fly-fishermen smoke. 1. How many of you enjoy smoking cigarettes while fishing?

The brown and white cylindrical ones or the tapered pink and blue ones ? 2. How many of you smoke cigars while fishing? Do you inhale?

I swear.  I did not inhale. 3. How many of you smoke while fishing, but hate it?

If you smoke while fishing, you’re doing it too fast. I swear, I get no respect…no respect at all…I ask my wife if she’ll talk dirty to me…she gives me her 900 number… TimW

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Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen and fly-fishermen smoke. 1. How many of you enjoy smoking cigarettes while fishing?

I don’t know about the rest of the group, but I USED to. 2. How many of you smoke cigars while fishing? Do you inhale?

Again, I can’t answer for the others, but I began smoking cigars the last two years I smoked.  Great mosquito fogger! 3. How many of you smoke while fishing, but hate it?

(Muskie, you really should have formed your questions to apply to individuals…) The last few years I smoked it was a love/hate relationship. 4. Have any of you been heavy smokers, and quit smoking,   but had trouble due to the associations of "pleasure" while smoking and fishing? Do you folks associate smoking with fishing and campfires?

(phew, a multi-part question, this is getting difficult…)  OK, I quit.  I used to smoke 1 1/2 packs a day, maybe more when I fished. Definetely more than that as I drove to where I was going fishing.  I had trouble due to the association between fishing/smoking.  But I also had trouble due the association between sex/smoking, food/smoking, beer (alchohol, bars, live bands in bars, etc.)/smoking, the list goes on…and yes, that includes campfires. 5. How  many of you regret quitting smoking while fishing?

I don’t! 6. How many of you are happy you quit smoking, and are happier fishing without smoking?

I am!!!  I’m even happier about the prospect of living longer, smelling nicer, and saving money (which actually is not really saved but spent on fishing stuff instead).  Thank You for any comments.  Tight Lines! —–Muskie

You’re welcome!  Hope you decide to take the intiative to quit! Good luck!  (and if you need to talk to someone, just write.  I quit over 6 months ago and it ain’t as hard as some make it out to be!) Jay Many men go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after.                                         Henry David Thoreau

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen  and fly-fishermen smoke. 1. How many of you enjoy smoking cigarettes while fishing? 2. How many of you smoke cigars while fishing? Do you inhale? 3. How many of you smoke while fishing, but hate it? 4. Have any of you been heavy smokers, and quit smoking,    but had trouble due to the associations of "pleasure" while smoking     and fishing?  Do you folks associate smoking with fishing and campfires? 5. How many of you regret quitting smoking while fishing? 6. How many of you are happy you quit smoking, and are happier fishing without smoking?   Thank You for any comments.  Tight Lines! —–Muskie

        Funny you should ask, I actually quit smoking and use the money         I saved and bought my first boat six years ago. I have not               smoked ever again.                             Richard

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Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen and fly-fishermen smoke. 1. How many of you enjoy smoking cigarettes while fishing? 2. How many of you smoke cigars while fishing? Do you inhale? 3. How many of you smoke while fishing, but hate it? 4. Have any of you been heavy smokers, and quit smoking,   but had trouble due to the associations of "pleasure" while smoking    and fishing?  Do you folks associate smoking with fishing and campfires? 5. How many of you regret quitting smoking while fishing? 6. How many of you are happy you quit smoking, and are happier fishing without smoking?

I smoked for almost 30 yrs and quit 3 1/2 years ago. Don’t regret it a bit.  Thank You for any comments.  Tight Lines! —–Muskie

Charlie…

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I don’t who’s worse, you (your kind) or the PETA a..holes. If you don’t like smoking, don’t fish with someone who does. You rest assured you and your kind won’t be fishing with me. Even when I smoked I found discarded cigarette butts obnoxious, I don’t find them any less so now that I quit. You don’t have to fish with a smoker to be bothered by one<g. FWIW.

What always got to me (even when I smoked) was to be backpacking in the wilderness and find cigarette butts on the trail. -Burton

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 Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen  and fly-fishermen smoke. 1. How many of you enjoy smoking cigarettes while fishing? 2. How many of you smoke cigars while fishing? Do you inhale? 3. How many of you smoke while fishing, but hate it? 4. Have any of you been heavy smokers, and quit smoking,    but had trouble due to the associations of "pleasure" while smoking     and fishing?  Do you folks associate smoking with fishing and campfires? 5. How many of you regret quitting smoking while fishing? 6. How many of you are happy you quit smoking, and are happier fishing without smoking?   Thank You for any comments.  Tight Lines! —–Muskie

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Hi, Here are my answers:  Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen  and fly-fishermen smoke. 1. How many of you enjoy smoking cigarettes while fishing?

yes cigarettes 2. How many of you smoke cigars while fishing? Do you inhale?

yes cigars, and no inhaling 3. How many of you smoke while fishing, but hate it? I enjoy it 4. Have any of you been heavy smokers, and quit smoking,    but had trouble due to the associations of "pleasure" while smoking     and fishing?  Do you folks associate smoking with fishing and campfires?

Haven’t quit smoking, although I should, I’m not that young anymore 5. How many of you regret quitting smoking while fishing? 6. How many of you are happy you quit smoking, and are happier fishing without smoking?   Thank You for any comments.  Tight Lines! —–Muskie

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 Hey fellow fishers, Im doing a poll about how many fishermen  and fly-fishermen smoke.

 6. … quit smoking, and are happier     fishing without smoking?   Thank You for any comments.  Tight Lines! —–Muskie

– 2330 NW Hummingbird Corvallis, OR          "Those children that you spit on           as they try to change their world,           are immune to your consultations,           and are quite aware of what they are going through."      "Changes"      David Bowie

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi, I am 10 years old have been fly fishing for 2 1/2 years. I would like to hear from other kids who are interested in fly fishing. Matt- North Carolina

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I am advisor to a fly fishing club at our middle school here in Bozeman.   I had our first meeting yesterday, and we had 18 students!  I did this the last two years and average 6-8 students.  I’d be interested to know if anyone else is doing anything like I am trying.  Would be interested in sharing information.  Dave Kumlien, Bozeman, MT

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(David Kumlien) writes: I am advisor to a fly fishing club at our middle school here in Bozeman. I had our first meeting yesterday, and we had 18 students!  I did this the last two years and average 6-8 students.  I’d be interested to know if anyone else is doing anything like I am trying.  Would be interested in sharing information.  Dave Kumlien, Bozeman, MT

What a great idea, Dave.  I, for one, would really like to hear of your experiences, and I may have a thought or two to throw in now and then.  By all means, keep posting! Kurt Steinbock

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Hi, I am 10 years old have been fly fishing for 2 1/2 years. I would like to hear from other kids who are interested in fly fishing. Matt- North Carolina

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Is there such a thing?  I’d love to drive into the mountains, meet a bunch of other homebrewers at about 10000′ (ASL), pitch a tent, stoke a fire, and swap homebrew, fly fish, lie about our SO’s, and forget about work for 48 hours.  Who’s in?  I’d suggest late-June to mid-July just because it’s going to take time to get this thing going.   email me.   — | 12459 W. Atlantic Ave | 303/763-8118 (Home) | 4725 Independence Street | | Lakewood, CO 80228    | 303/467-8352 (Work) | Wheat Ridge,  CO 80033   |

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Are you seriously opposed to bait fishermen?  I might be in.

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