Paul, I would check out the site run by a decent guy named Matt. He lives not too far away in Rome I believe. He is familiar with the Utica/Rome areas (about an hour away) and he can turn you on to some other spots in your area. If you head up 87, you will find all sorts of small creeks and streams. They used to be awesome for brookies, but I haven’t fished there in years. His site is: http://www.centralnewyorker.com/CNYflyfisherman.htm Give him a try. Gordon Burr The worst day on the water beats the best day in the office. Gordo

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Hi,  I have been an avid fisher person for many years. Have recently taken up fly fishing – after moving to the Albany New York area.  Any tips for the area, fishing spots (fly fishing or otherwise) fishing partners (I’ll buy the beer or lunch) haven’t made any new friends here yet.  would be greatly appreciated Thanks in advance   Paul P

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Hi,  I have been an avid fisher person for many years. Have recently taken up fly fishing – after moving to the Albany New York area.  Any tips for the area, fishing spots (fly fishing or otherwise) fishing partners (I’ll buy the beer or lunch) haven’t made any new friends here yet.  would be greatly appreciated

Do make the trip up to the Adirondacks – Saranac, Ausable area – if you get the chance.  I’d love to head up there with ya, but it’s not in the cards this year

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Hi,  I have been an avid fisher person for many years. Have recently taken up fly fishing – after moving to the Albany New York area.  Any tips for the area, fishing spots (fly fishing or otherwise) fishing partners (I’ll buy the beer or lunch) haven’t made any new friends here yet.  would be greatly appreciated Thanks in advance   Paul P

Funny, I just left after 10 years. Depending where you live, there are a host of nearby opportunities. My personal favorite was either the Mohawk or the Junction of the Hudson and Hoosac for smallies on the fly. The Mohawk has lots of areas to fish- easily accessible are all the locks (that goes for the Hudson, too). From shore good areas are either end of the Crescent Bridge, the flight locks, Lock 7 in Niskayuna and the other side of Lock 7 accessible from Ferry Rd nature path in Clifton Park, just west of Vischer’s Ferry Road. For the jct of the Hoosac and Hudson get to Stillwater and go across the bridge over the Hudson, turn right into the road for the Lock Park. Park in the lot and take the footpath south from the parking area to the Hoosac. I mostly used white grub bodies and spinners on the Hoosac. It’s very interesting place with a lot of fish but water levels change, sometimes dramatically, dependent  upon releases through the dam at Schagticoke, upriver. It is wild in Summer when water levels are down and fish congregate in the narrow rushing channels cut through the rock. Believe me the Albany are is fantastic for water to fish. Start asking around here or local tackle shops. Add the Adirondacks and Vermont to all the water in the Albany area and you are in paradise. I loved it so much I bought the lifetime license from NY state which is good even if you are no longer a NY resident. Tight lines and watch your footing! Cow

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I was out on the river last night, up at the dam. nothing there yet, give it a week and maybe!! Vern

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m sure that you’re aware that there is a heck of a lot of stream fishing in the area.  But sometime between now and mid-May or so is supposed to be a good time to fish for shad and striped bass.  You may want to look into shore access at Green Island, below the dam at Troy.  I can’t give you any first-hand information: I was in the area last year and researched it a bit, but then wasn’t able to get to it.

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The majority of the people here on ROFF involved in the incredible amount of bickering are looking like morons, and yes I aught to know. ROFF is like a classroom full of highschool girls who talk and talk and talk but don’t seem to DO anything about it.  All of you who are tossing insults from behind your nice safe computer keyboard thinking you sound tough… well, you don’t, you sound like pansies, because most of you don’t have the courage to say those things face to face.  If you are really that insulted or irate, get on a fricken airplane and have it out.  Otherwise, please shut up.  PLEASE.

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… Otherwise, please shut up.  PLEASE.

Please accept my heartfelt apologies, Mr. Salad, for any bickering in this newsgroup which may have impeded your ability to post a trip report, a tackle review or a query about fly fishing. Rest assured, your scathing commentary has cut us, all of us, to the quick, and we humbly await your further instructions on what is meet and proper. — Ken Fortenberry

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    Please accept my heartfelt apologies, Mr. Salad, for any bickering  in    this newsgroup which may have impeded your ability to post a trip report,    a tackle review or a query about fly fishing. ..apology accepted. Please accept my apology for believing that childish whining equals off topic posting.

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Please accept my apology for believing that childish whining equals off topic posting.

No problemo, but please prefix the subject line with "OT:" the next time you feel inclined to post. /daytripper (hth

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The majority of the people here on ROFF involved in the incredible amount of bickering are looking like morons, and yes I aught to know.

AH-HA!  So YOU are the "King of the Morons"…I was wondering just who it was, and suspected he might just be hangin’ around ROFF…and just why weren’t you right in thick of it?  Pansy!  Pansy! ROFF is like a classroom full of highschool girls who talk and talk and talk but don’t seem to DO anything about it.  

Highschool girls? HIGHSCHOOL GIRLS?  HEY, LOOK BUDDY, I’LL HAVE YOU KNOW I HAVE JUST ONE QUESTION – er, where is wayno? All of you who are tossing insults from behind your nice safe computer keyboard thinking you sound tough… well, you don’t, you sound like pansies, because most of you don’t have the courage to say those things face to face.  

Oh, shoot, Mark, we can’t ALL be as tough and rugged as you’d like…heck, some of us are barely able to get our thin, pale, and sickly fingers to move across the keyboard, and now, you want actual physical violence…you, sir, are a meany!   Heck, why just last week, as I was beating "The Rock" into a bloody pulp for suggesting that I had, perhaps, forgotten my manners and not held my pinkie properly during elevensies, I thought to myself, "you know, I’m getting much too old for this.  It’d be so much easier to simply go and screw around with them wimps (hey, you say "pansy," I say "wimps," but let’s call the whole thing off…topic…or A CAGE MATCH TO DEATH!!!) on ROFF"…when I had to put him into "The Double Suplex Sleeping Clawraker" for not passing the biscuits fast enough, I decided: ATTACK!  ATTACK!! If you are really that insulted or irate, get on a fricken airplane and have it out.  Otherwise, please shut up.  PLEASE.

Well, shoot, bubba, post your addy, and see who (or what) might show up…I know ol’ Rock is spoiling for a real throw-down, and he ain’t up to foolin’ with me no more…’coursin, if you wanna to come on over, I’ll be happy to confuse you in person, all live and in technicolor… HTH, R

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DAMN!  Busted!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – No problemo, but please prefix the subject line with "OT:" the next time you feel inclined to post. /daytripper (hth

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The majority of the people here on ROFF involved in the incredible amount of bickering are looking like morons, and yes I aught to know. ROFF is like a classroom full of highschool girls who talk and talk and talk but don’t seem to DO anything about it.  All of you who are tossing insults from behind your nice safe computer keyboard thinking you sound tough… well, you don’t, you sound like pansies, because most of you don’t have the courage to say those things face to face.  If you are really that insulted or irate, get on a fricken airplane and have it out.  Otherwise, please shut up.  PLEASE.

Bring it on particle boy!  Look up my address and book the flight…

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Please accept my apology for believing that childish whining equals off topic posting.

Apology accepted……not that it’s needed; you may feel free to whine whenever the urge strikes. Wolfgang

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The majority of the people here on ROFF involved in the incredible amount of bickering are looking like morons, and yes I aught to know. ROFF is like a classroom full of highschool girls who talk and talk and talk but don’t seem to DO anything about it.  All of you who are tossing insults from behind your nice safe computer keyboard thinking you sound tough… well, you don’t, you sound like pansies, because most of you don’t have the courage to say those things face to face.  If you are really that insulted or irate, get on a fricken airplane and have it out.  Otherwise, please shut up.  PLEASE.

Hmph!  Don’t suppose you’d be interested in taking a plane to Milwaukee and saying that?  If not, please shut up. Wolfgang apparently living in a world in which that really needs to be said from time to time……go figure.

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Milwaukee?  As if I’d spend five minutes in THAT town. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hmph!  Don’t suppose you’d be interested in taking a plane to Milwaukee and saying that?  If not, please shut up.

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Thanks for the invite.  I don’t recall calling you out or talking smack on the newsgroup, but correct me if I’m wrong. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bring it on particle boy!  Look up my address and book the flight…

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particle salad writes: Milwaukee?  As if I’d spend five minutes in THAT town.

Candy ass!

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particle salad writes: Milwaukee?  As if I’d spend five minutes in THAT town. Candy ass!

I spent 5 minutes in Milwaukee, I think.  Depending, of course, if the section of I-90 on which I was travelling was actually inside the city limits.  Didn’t see anything to make me want to return; though, to be fair, I probably wasn’t looking at the nicer part of the city. Kevin

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – particle salad writes: Milwaukee?  As if I’d spend five minutes in THAT town. Candy ass! I spent 5 minutes in Milwaukee, I think.  Depending, of course, if the section of I-90 on which I was travelling was actually inside the city limits.  Didn’t see anything to make me want to return; though, to be fair, I probably wasn’t looking at the nicer part of the city. Kevin

You must be one of those Italian drivers, not looking in the rearview mirror and all…. TC, R

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Thanks for the invite.  I don’t recall calling you out or talking smack on the newsgroup, but correct me if I’m wrong.

Well, your original post was talking smack, and I’m talking smack back.  It’s a talk-back smack attack, Jack.  It sounded like kind of a silly post considering that you were basically doing what you accused others of – "tossing insults from behind your nice safe computer keyboard." Therefore I didn’t take you seriously, and my reply wasn’t serious either.  On the other hand, if you were serious, then come on over and Jeff Miller and I will give you at least 5 seconds of ass whuppin’ before we keel over and regretfully submit to your will. JeffC (hey, where ya goin guys?  hey Jeff, come back, hey come on, stop kiddin’ around!)

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… then come on over and Jeff Miller and I will give you at least 5 seconds of ass whuppin’ before we keel over and regretfully submit to your will.

um…well…it’s kinda like this…i’ll do my 5 seconds worth, but i ain’t keelin over and submitting to nobody’s will cept maybe nicole kidman or gwyneth paltrow’s mom or… well, you know, that deliverance movie changed the way even some of us nobless oblige boys look at things…  sure you understand.  but, i’ll be right there to open the first beer in celebration…no matter who is right or wrong or the winner or left standin…but, i ain’t keelin and submittin. no sir. jeff

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – … then come on over and Jeff Miller and I will give you at least 5 seconds of ass whuppin’ before we keel over and regretfully submit to your will. um…well…it’s kinda like this…i’ll do my 5 seconds worth, but i ain’t keelin over and submitting to nobody’s will cept maybe nicole kidman or gwyneth paltrow’s mom or… well, you know, that deliverance movie changed the way even some of us nobless oblige boys look at things…  sure you understand.  but, i’ll be right there to open the first beer in celebration…no matter who is right or wrong or the winner or left standin…but, i ain’t keelin and submittin. no sir. jeff

So, that’s one "keel and submit," and one "stand and deliver"…or rather, I guess, one "stand, and no "Deliverance"… TC, R …jus’ tryin’ to make sure my notes is accurate and all…

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Milwaukee?  As if I’d spend five minutes in THAT town.

Four will do. Wolfgang

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – particle salad writes: Milwaukee?  As if I’d spend five minutes in THAT town. Candy ass! I spent 5 minutes in Milwaukee, I think.  Depending, of course, if the section of I-90 on which I was travelling was actually inside the city limits.  Didn’t see anything to make me want to return; though, to be fair, I probably wasn’t looking at the nicer part of the city.

It’s a city.  Got some good stuff and some bad stuff.  If you stayed on 90 you DEFINITELY didn’t see the better parts of Milwaukee.      :) Wolfgang

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considering that you were basically doing what you accused others of – "tossing insults from behind your nice safe computer keyboard."

Well, OK, if you want to go that way… I guess I was speaking more about those making personal insults, calling people out.  I KNOW most of the people making those insults would NOT make them face to face.. that’s the thing that I find amusing, the talking tough part from a safe distance… On the other hand, if you were serious, then come on over and Jeff Miller and I will give you at least 5 seconds of ass whuppin’ before we keel over and regretfully submit to your will.

You’re wise to bring a friend… er, nevermind…

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Hey at least they have beer… er, nevermind. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Milwaukee?  As if I’d spend five minutes in THAT town. Four will do. Wolfgang

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My biggest problem in this is that I wouldn’t take this crap from anyone face to face and would probably be even more direct in person. Hence, my reluctance to walk away. However, given the obvious fact that some will never let go I have no other way of dealing with these things than by non response. I’m not good at it, I’ll be the first to admit, and I’ve tried and failed before, but I’m game to give it another go. Clark

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – considering that you were basically doing what you accused others of – "tossing insults from behind your nice safe computer keyboard." Well, OK, if you want to go that way… I guess I was speaking more about those making personal insults, calling people out.  I KNOW most of the people making those insults would NOT make them face to face.. that’s the thing that I find amusing, the talking tough part from a safe distance… On the other hand, if you were serious, then come on over and Jeff Miller and I will give you at least 5 seconds of ass whuppin’ before we keel over and regretfully submit to your will. You’re wise to bring a friend… er, nevermind…

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My biggest problem in this is that I wouldn’t take this crap from anyone face to face and would probably be even more direct in person. Hence, my reluctance to walk away. However, given the obvious fact that some will never let go I have no other way of dealing with these things than by non response. I’m not good at it, I’ll be the first to admit, and I’ve tried and failed before, but I’m game to give it another go. Clark

That’s the spirit Clark! Hey, picture this:  you work as an electrician and have been a fairly rugged sort most of your life, and one day on the job a masons-helper comes up to ya and says, "A fella told me you was queer, is it true?"  So you say, "Yeah, it’s true, I’m gay.  So what?"  And he says, "No, really, are you queer?"  And I say, (oops) and you say, "Yes it’s true!  You wanna go out or somethin’?" Well, he just walks off scrathin’ his head, and you walk off knowin’ every swingin’ dick on the job is soon to believe you are gay.  And I say, FUCK’EM IF THEY CAN’T TAKE A JOKE! Op  –strictly heterosexually celibate–

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I hear you… I wouldn’t take that kind of crap face to face either, but you have to realize that those who are out there making all the spineless threats are usually the kind of people who feel powerless in all other areas of their lives.. and when they have the opportunity to act without fear of physical retribution, they suddenly feel brave.  Go figure. I think you’re better off with the non response… or at least a stab at humor.  Don’t let the weasels get to you. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My biggest problem in this is that I wouldn’t take this crap from anyone face to face and would probably be even more direct in person. Hence, my reluctance to walk away. However, given the obvious fact that some will never let go I have no other way of dealing with these things than by non response. I’m not good at it, I’ll be the first to admit, and I’ve tried and failed before, but I’m game to give it another go.

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I hear you… I wouldn’t take that kind of crap face to face either, but you have to realize that those who are out there making all the spineless threats are usually the kind of people who feel powerless in all other areas of their lives.. and when they have the opportunity to act without fear of physical retribution, they suddenly feel brave.  Go figure. I think you’re better off with the non response… or at least a stab at humor.  Don’t let the weasels get to you.

Fuckin’ weasels!  They’re everywhere. Op  –whars ma varmit gun–

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Hi I going from Denmark/Europe to Vancouver BC/Canda for a Computer conference 9-12th of october and I’m looking for the possibility for one or two persons to go for 2-5 days of fishing mainly fly fishing between 13-20th. of october, any [adfordable] hints ? Siimvej 20 8680 Ry Denmark

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Steffen, Call or write Fred, I guarantee good fishing and a good time. Helmer, Fred E-mail Address(es): Business Information:   Company: Fred’s Custom Tackle & Fishing Adventures   Address:     Unit 1- 5880 Vedder Rd..     Chilliwack BC V2R 5P4   Phone: 604-858-7344 Fred deals with a great many European clients. — See our Sharks at the Mandalay Bay Casino in Las Vegas!!!! <*))))< Paul Phillips Director of Operations Fintastic Fish Mounts http://www.fintastic.com/ spam block x – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I going from Denmark/Europe to Vancouver BC/Canda for a Computer conference 9-12th of october and I’m looking for the possibility for one or two persons to go for 2-5 days of fishing mainly fly fishing between 13-20th. of october, any [adfordable] hints ? Siimvej 20 8680 Ry Denmark

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http://www.guidebc.com/ Vic Carrao is one of the best,most reasonable guides in the Fraser Valley. Also ask about Sturgeon fishing – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Steffen, Call or write Fred, I guarantee good fishing and a good time. Helmer, Fred E-mail Address(es): Business Information:   Company: Fred’s Custom Tackle & Fishing Adventures   Address:     Unit 1- 5880 Vedder Rd..     Chilliwack BC V2R 5P4   Phone: 604-858-7344 Fred deals with a great many European clients. — See our Sharks at the Mandalay Bay Casino in Las Vegas!!!! <*))))< Paul Phillips Director of Operations Fintastic Fish Mounts http://www.fintastic.com/ spam block x Hi I going from Denmark/Europe to Vancouver BC/Canda for a Computer conference 9-12th of october and I’m looking for the possibility for one or two persons to go for 2-5 days of fishing mainly fly fishing between 13-20th. of october, any [adfordable] hints ? Siimvej 20 8680 Ry Denmark

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Did you ever see the Walker’s Cay Chronicles, where Flip Pallot and Lefty Kreh were down in that area fly fishing for False Albicore? – Bud — Bud Feuless & Miki Magara-Feuless

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Did you ever see the Walker’s Cay Chronicles, where Flip Pallot and Lefty Kreh were down in that area fly fishing for False Albicore? – Bud — Bud Feuless & Miki Magara-Feuless

No.  I’d like to see it though.  That has become one hot light tackle fishery.  Since most people don’t like the false albacore, it is also a catch and release fishery, which will certainly help sustain the stocks as the popularity increases. Jeff Sorry, but email address disguised due to unscrupulous spammers.  Please respond in Usenet.

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Jeff; Congrabulations!  Hope you fall as much in love with your Scout as I have mine.  False Albacore should be running in your area soon, right? – Bud — Bud Feuless & Miki Magara-Feuless

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Jeff; Congrabulations!  Hope you fall as much in love with your Scout as I have mine.  False Albacore should be running in your area soon, right? – Bud — Bud Feuless & Miki Magara-Feuless

Yes.  It usually happens in April.  Worry not, I will be catching them! Jeff Sorry, but email address disguised due to unscrupulous spammers.  Please respond in Usenet.

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   Congrats Jeff !!!!   Have fun Mike G.

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just womdering what you paid? and do the scouts come in center consoles and what is there cost if you dont mind thanks rob

With 150 HP Yamaha and a $2000 single axle trailer for this new 19′ boat, my guess would be $25,000. — Skipper

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just womdering what you paid? and do the scouts come in center consoles and what is there cost if you dont mind thanks rob

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just womdering what you paid? and do the scouts come in center consoles and what is there cost if you dont mind thanks rob

I paid a fair price to the dealer in my area that was most helpful. Amazingly, I was able to negotiate a deal without knowing dealer invoice, blue book value, and wholesale cost.  If you are serious about prices, I suggest calling some dealers in your area for some quotes.  Tell me what they are quoting, and I will give you my opinion on that price.   Scout makes boats up to 20′ in center console, dual console, side console, and flats style.  They are at www.scoutboats.com. Jeff Sorry, but email address disguised due to unscrupulous spammers.  Please respond in Usenet.

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just womdering what you paid? and do the scouts come in center consoles and what is there cost if you dont mind thanks rob With 150 HP Yamaha and a $2000 single axle trailer for this new 19′ boat, my guess would be $25,000. — Skipper

Good guess, Skipper.  I got a dual axle trailer, and the boat is closer to 20′ than 19′ (19′ 10" LOA). Jeff Sorry, but email address disguised due to unscrupulous spammers.  Please respond in Usenet.

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Got the call from the dealer today.  My new Scout 202 SF is in!  I’m going to go down on Saturday and lay out where I want the electronics mounted.  It will be ready for the water next week, and I anticipate picking it up on the 13th!   Now I just need the fish to start their trip to the NC coast… Jeff Sorry, but email address disguised due to unscrupulous spammers.  Please respond in Usenet.

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Got the call from the dealer today.  My new Scout 202 SF is in!  I’m going to go down on Saturday and lay out where I want the electronics mounted.  It will be ready for the water next week, and I anticipate picking it up on the 13th!   Now I just need the fish to start their trip to the NC coast… Jeff

Congrats indeed, Jeff!  It always seems that the first year or two, when you’re busy turning the boat into what you want it to be, are the most enjoyable.  We just switched and there’s all the usual redoing to change the obviously stupid decisions the manufacturer and previous owners made to the One True Path of Righteousness (and humility???) Enjoy!

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MY SON BELONGS TO A HIGH SCHOOL FLYFISHING CLUB AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A COPY OF THE INTERNATIONAL FLYFISHING CHAMPIONSHIP RULES.  DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THIS CAN BE FOUND.

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MY SON BELONGS TO A HIGH SCHOOL FLYFISHING CLUB AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR A COPY OF THE INTERNATIONAL FLYFISHING CHAMPIONSHIP RULES.  DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE THIS CAN BE FOUND.

If you join IGFA (they have a web site where you can do this) they’ll send you a copy of the latest World Records as part of the membership deal. This lists all the rules for various forms of tackle, including fly fishing.  I think you can join for around $30.  I also saw the IGFA World Records manual for sale for $12.95 from a catalog recently. Hope this helps.

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Get your information from    IGFA    300 Gulf Stream Way    Dania Beach, FL 33004    Phone: 954-922-4212    WEBSITE:  www.igfa.org This is the new site of the beautiful World Fishing  Center of the IGFA. The museum was open to the public on Dec. 19, 1998.  If you are able to visit the museum it will be a great experiance. There lots of hands on exhibits including those for tots through adults. There are demonstrations of fly tying,fly casting, cast netting, knot tying as well as thousands of books and videos in the library. Their gift shop carries hundreds of great items for gifts or personal use. In the main hall ,suspended from the ceiling are hanging mounts of all the world records of all species of the world ,from the smallest Bluegill to the Great White Shark. I am a volunteer at the center and  I must say how excited I am about it. There is something new to see every time I walk in.   I’ve rattled on enough.  Come see us.  Buck

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A friend is going on his honeymoon on Maui and was looking for some suggestions on where to go fly fishing.Any fly patterns or where there is a good tackle shop to stop in at would be appreciated. Thanks , jeff

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A friend is going on his honeymoon on Maui and was looking for some suggestions on where to go fly fishing.Any fly patterns or where there is a good tackle shop to stop in at would be appreciated. Thanks , jeff

I would also like to hear some suggestions.  I plan on taking a trip there soon and would like to put in some time fly fishing.  I have heard fishing the islands can be pretty tough however…anyone have info on Maui? -Greg

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A friend is going on his honeymoon on Maui and was looking for some suggestions on where to go fly fishing.Any fly patterns or where there is a good tackle shop to stop in at would be appreciated. Thanks , jeff

Hi Jeff, I heard that there was a bike shop that had some fly fishing equipment. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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I am looking for anyone who may have some tips to share for fly fishing in cairns australia.  I am planning to go for two weeks at the end of october to through the middle of november.  Any information on charters, areas, tackle and lodging would be very helpful.

Peter Haynes is part of the Australia’s Premier Fly fishing Guides group, and would be the best guy for that area. His phone Number is 61 7 4033 2398, or if E-Mail is better, make contact through Peter Hayes Guided Fishing, via Neil Grose Tasmania Australia

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I am looking for anyone who may have some tips to share for fly fishing in cairns australia.  I am planning to go for two weeks at the end of october to through the middle of november.  Any information on charters, areas, tackle and lodging would be very helpful.                 Fly-guy

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White’s Pond in Concord has great fly fishing.  I generally fish it Dave LaCourse

Thanks for the tip. I have fished Whites a couple of times, but with non-fly tackle, and have, in fact, caught rainbows and a brown. I have heard that fishing the deep dropoffs with a fly in summer works, but have not actually tried it. Both Hopkinton Res and Ashland Res are stocked as well, and I’ve been dying to try them. Steve

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White’s Pond in Concord has great fly fishing.  I generally fish it Dave LaCourse Thanks for the tip. I have fished Whites a couple of times, but with non-fly tackle, and have, in fact, caught rainbows and a brown. I have heard that fishing the deep dropoffs with a fly in summer works, but have not actually tried it. Both Hopkinton Res and Ashland Res are stocked as well, and I’ve been dying to try them. Steve

Someone told me that Hopkington res. has lanlocked salmon. Is this true? Gary

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my opinion steve would be to fish these ponds when ever the sun is at its lowest point either in morning till 10 or in the eve till dark.for those ponds that contain brwns fish the shallows with any type of black stramer you have the black against a nite sky works well with them i could go into great detail but i just started typing and its driving crazy i think ill go to the pnd and relax byefor now

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Not true.  The state dumps in some of the spawned out Atlantic salmon brood stock from the Connecticuit/Merrimack salmon restoration program though.   Both the Wachusett and Quabbin have landlock populations and there is a good run on Wachusett tribs in the fall but it gets hammered by every sort of "fisherman" one could imagine and a few that can’t be believed. Even so, I always give it a try and have even landed two! Doug  

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Someone told me that Hopkington res. has lanlocked salmon. Is this true? Gary

Some of the deeper res. are occasionally stocked with broodstock salmon (i.e. old salmon that are producing good eggs for the stocking program anymore.) I believe Hopkinton and Ashland are, and I know Middle Cochituate is. You can call 1-800-ask-fish and follow the voice menu to find out exactly which lakes were stocked this spring with broodstock salmon. Steve

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What do you conceder your favorite PA stream and why? I am planning a trip this fall and would like to fish one of the blue

ribbon waters of PA. Roger,         Though new to fly fishing, I found the Tulpehocken Creek special regulation area is as fine a blue ribbon fishery as any in Pennsylvania.  I have spoken to a few fisherman and tackle shops locally and they all agree.  The only problem is these fish are some of the most finicky in the state, but there is one advantage here, if you’re married and you want to bring the mate, Vanity Fair outlets are real close by. — Randy Junk e-mail, solicitation, sales, products and services gladly accepted at $500.00 per mailing and billed directly to your ISP.

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What do you conceder your favorite PA stream and why? I am planning a trip this fall and would like to fish one of the blue ribbon waters of PA. Thank, Roger @

Roger; I think that someone in Montana, California, or New York has "rights" on the term "Blue Ribbon".  I’m not sure about "World Class".  That may need international copyrights.  Anyway, yeah, the Tulley has fish, but may not after this summer.  I think it’s waters got too warm.  I’ll give you a list of some of the best, established waters in the Keystone state, and then you ought to get a copy of the Mid Atlantic Flyfishers Guide.  You can contact flyshops that monitor the respective waters.   Fishing Creek in Lamar Spring Creek: Between State College and Bellefonte. West Branch of the Delaware below the Cannonsville Res. Yellow Breeches, Carlisle (sp?) Little Lehigh, and most other Lehigh Valley streams, Allentown Falling Spring, Chambersburg Penns’ Creek, Centre County Lackawaxen (I cannot remember how to spell this) Spruce Creek (mostly private, but arrangements can be made), Tyrone, There are lots of others, but these are some of the higher profile streams, and for good reason.  I like other streams in the N.W. part of the state, but the good ones often get too hot in the summer and kill all of the stocked fish.  You will want a guide for Penns Creek.  On the other streams, you can do well without a guide, but you will need advice.  These streams are well fished almost all year ’round by some very good anglers who know the water well. You will be fishing for (mostly) seasoned, experienced fish. Jason Beary

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What do you conceder your favorite PA stream and why? I am planning a trip this fall and would like to fish one

of the blue ribbon waters of PA. Thank, Roger

Roger: WHERE in PA? PA has more running water than any state except Alaska. Be specific about location and I can help. The Breeches Penns Creek Fishing Creek White Deer Loyalsok Lehigh Stony Creek Plus MANY others are great!

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What do you conceder your favorite PA stream and why? I am planning a trip this fall and would like to fish one of the blue ribbon waters of PA. Roger; I think that someone in Montana, California, or New York has "rights" on the term "Blue Ribbon".

I have a book at titled "Blue Ribbon Trout Streams".  It’s about many of the streams in California. John Fereira Stop Unsolicited Commercial Email – Join CAUCE (http://www.cauce.org) Support HR 1748, the anti-spam bill.

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What do you conceder your favorite PA stream and why? I am planning a trip this fall and would like to fish one of the blue ribbon waters of PA. Thank, Roger – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -@

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I’M NOT SURE MY LAST MESSAGE WAS SENT PROPERLY.  I’M NEW TO THIS INFERNAL CONTRAPTION THEY CALL A COMPUTER!   I AM GOING TO PANAMA FOR A FEW MONTHS AND NEED ADVICE ON TACKLE AND LOCATIONS FOR SALT WATER FLY FISHING.  I KNOW THAT THE MOUTHS OF THE RIVERS HAVE TARPON AND GATUN LAKE HAS PEACOCK BASS.  ANY ADVICE WOULD BE WELCOME.

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: I’M NOT SURE MY LAST MESSAGE WAS SENT PROPERLY.  I’M NEW TO THIS INFERNAL : CONTRAPTION THEY CALL A COMPUTER!   : I AM GOING TO PANAMA FOR A FEW MONTHS AND NEED ADVICE ON TACKLE AND : LOCATIONS FOR SALT WATER FLY FISHING.  I KNOW THAT THE MOUTHS OF THE : RIVERS HAVE TARPON AND GATUN LAKE HAS PEACOCK BASS.  ANY ADVICE WOULD BE : WELCOME. I was born there, but I don’t remember much since I moved away when I was young. I would be interested to here how you did when you get back. Someday I hope to return. BTW, typing in all caps is hard on the eyes and difficult to read. It is also considered shouting in the computer world. I just wanted to let you know before somebody gets on your case.  ;-) Good Luck! Jon Porter

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