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Double dittos on Eureka.  It’s not the brand it used to be, however: my 25 year old Timberline is still going strong even after putting some serious holes in the floor over the years (*don’t* bring a tackle box full of pike lures into the tent…).  My wife bought me a Eureka Sunrise 9 about 10 years ago, and even though I bitched at the time that it didn’t have a full fly, it has worked very well – it has survived 5 years of cub scout camping trips, and a bunch of fishing trips with friends and the family and it has never leaked in the rain.  And I’ve been through some serious weather including many tornado warning storms (we had to evacuate a campground with 400 cub scouts one weekend – tents were floating away and I never got a drop of water inside except from peoples’ clothes).  I really like the big windows – here in Massachusetts it’s often muggy and the ventilation is really important.  We used a Eureka Backcountry (essentially an updated Timberline) on a trip into the Boundary Waters last fall and had 8 nights of thunderstorms and high winds without ever a leak.  If I were going into serious outback carrying all my gear, I would look at a more extreme design with better coverage, but for car and canoe camping I’ve been very happy with my Eurekas. –Stan

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – or recommendations of other tents, I’m interested in hearing about them. I like the Eureka! Timberline models for car camping. Ditto a testimonial for Eureka.   I’ve been very happy with the quality of everything I have from them. Joe F.

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Double dittos on Eureka.  

These votes of confidence in Eureka are heartening. I want a tent that’s very roomy and that I can easily stand up in. That’s why I like the Eureka Headquarters (6′11"). One Timberline model would work — the Timberline Outfitter 6. I’m not that worried about the fly. This will be a strictly car-camping tent, and if I get into really serious weather I can just get into my truck. I’d rather have a tent that’s very open for the 95% of the time that I’m camping in good, summer, Western weather. The Headquarters looks good for that. It has BIG windows. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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That’s a nice tent, but there’s a couple of problems. First of all, it’s about twice as expensive as the Eureka model. … An essential element of its snob appeal, donchaknow. — Ken Fortenberry

______ Question? When you and Wolfgangbanger crawl in the same high quality sleeping bag,  who wears the perfume? ; ) — MrG/American Sportsman (never sleep with your fly rod in a sleeping bag) http://www.gink.com/rod_facts/bastardjun00.html  LATEST BAMBOO FACTS "the saga continues"

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Didn’t you just tell me in an earlier post that you were above such shit as the post below? What’s up?  Is your mind failing you? Opie  –Planning for the Past–

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – That’s a nice tent, but there’s a couple of problems. First of all, it’s about twice as expensive as the Eureka model. … An essential element of its snob appeal, donchaknow. — Ken Fortenberry ______ Question? When you and Wolfgangbanger crawl in the same high quality sleeping bag,  who wears the perfume? ; ) — MrG/American Sportsman (never sleep with your fly rod in a sleeping bag) http://www.gink.com/rod_facts/bastardjun00.html  LATEST BAMBOO FACTS "the saga continues"

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An essential element of its snob appeal, donchaknow.

Get a Moss Big Dipper then. If I was going to go nomadic, that’d be my choice. Otherwise I’d stick with Eureka! Timberline even though Wolfgang can’t seem to pitch them properly<g. — Charlie…

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or recommendations of other tents, I’m interested in hearing about them. I like the Eureka! Timberline models for car camping.

Ditto a testimonial for Eureka.   I’ve been very happy with the quality of everything I have from them. Joe F.

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Ditto a testimonial for Eureka.   I’ve been very happy with the quality of everything I have from them. Joe F.

I like Eureka too.  I have a Timberline 2-man tent and a Wind River 6-man dome and both have survived some hairy winds and rainstorms. The Timberline has never collapsed on me like a previous poster mentioned, and frankly I can’t see how it could.  I wonder if maybe he’s thinking of a different tent.  The nice thing about the Timberline is that one person can set it up single-handed in about 5 minutes, but the Wind River takes about 15-20 minutes and at least two people. As long as you are car-camping and weight isn’t a consideration, I recommend you get the biggest tent you can afford.  When you end up spending a whole day inside your tent waiting out a rain, those extra few cubic feet of space will seem worth every penny. Kevin

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Gotta agree with the Milwaukee rat slasher on this one.

        hilarious.  only on roff would such a name be considered an appellation for a friend.  :)         wayno, aka "delerium tremens"

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Eureka Timberline – the big one Ed Fox – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m shopping for a tent for car camping. I’m considering either Cabelas Truck Tent or the Alaknak tent (also from Cabelas). If anyone has experience with or opinions about these tents, or recommendations of other tents, I’m interested in hearing about them. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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For comparison, take a look at The North Face Bedrock http://content.thenorthface.com/index_products.html

That’s a nice tent, but there’s a couple of problems. First of all, it’s about twice as expensive as the Eureka model. That’s no big deal, but it’s also not sold over the web, and there’s no retailer anywhere nearby. (Ironically, there’s a big North Face store about five minutes from my house in California.) I suppose I could call a retailer and have them ship it. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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That’s a nice tent, but there’s a couple of problems. First of all, it’s about twice as expensive as the Eureka model. …

An essential element of its snob appeal, donchaknow. — Ken Fortenberry

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Eureka Timberline – the big one

My best friend and frequent backpacking companion bought his first timberline in the late 70s, if memory serves.  I have spent MANY nights in it and its successors.  The best thing about this tent was that it was Jay’s, and thus he carried it.  Next best was the roominess. However, the timberline with its relatively high profile and meager support system was prone to collapsing in the middle of dark stormy nights.  The natural and completely understandable tendency of the human brain to suppress horrible memories makes it impossible for me to remember with any precision how many times this happened, but it was a bunch. Wolfgang caveat tentor

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For comparison, take a look at The North Face Bedrock http://content.thenorthface.com/index_products.html That’s a nice tent, but there’s a couple of problems. First of all, it’s about twice as expensive as the Eureka model. That’s no big deal, but it’s also not sold over the web, and there’s no retailer anywhere nearby. (Ironically, there’s a big North Face store about five minutes from my house in California.) I suppose I could call a retailer and have them ship it.

I suspect it IS sold on the web rw.  Just have to find the right retailer.  Start with Cabela’s or look at gorp.com for retailers

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That’s a nice rig, Asadi, but I’ll be pulling a horse trailer, at least some of the time, so I need something that I can put in the back of my truck. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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 Could you put a tracer on that Fly Rod Ken? – MrG/American Sportsman http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html http://www.gink.com/rod_facts/bastardjun00.html  LATEST BAMBOO FACTS "the saga continues"

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I’m shopping for a tent for car camping. I’m considering either Cabelas Truck Tent or the Alaknak tent (also from Cabelas). If anyone has experience with or opinions about these tents, or recommendations of other tents, I’m interested in hearing about them.

Seems like everybody in the world with a sewing machine is in the tent business these days.  Becky and I were shopping early this year in preparation for our Never Summer Wilderness trip later this month, and we looked at hundreds.  Over the course of a thirty year backpacking career I used many different tents and the vast majority of them, as well as most that we looked at this year, are crap.  The governing philosophy seems to be that unless you are a serious mountaineer you will be satisfied with something that will almost certainly leave you wet and miserable.  I don’t know if you remember seeing it at the NC clave, but the Mountain Hardwear tent we ended up buying is excellent. But the brand is not nearly as important as the features of the individual tent.  I would advise you to go for the oxymoron, the REALLY BIG backpacking or mountaineering tent.  Wherever you shop, talk to the people who have done some serious expedition work and then find the biggest thing you can that resembles what they use.  One thing you should never ever compromise on; be absolutely sure that the rain fly covers the entire tent!!  A fly which leaves even a small portion of the bottom uncovered is thoroughly useless, and a tent with a useless rain fly is a ticket for the express to hell. Wolfgang hypothermia and sleep deprivation are about 40 megahoovers each

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Right now I’m leaning toward the Eureka! Headquarters.         http://www.vtarmynavy.com/eureka_luxury_family_tents.htm — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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Right now I’m leaning toward the Eureka! Headquarters.         http://www.vtarmynavy.com/eureka_luxury_family_tents.htm

None of the models shown on that page has a fly that completely covers the tent.  You WILL be sorry.

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Right now I’m leaning toward the Eureka! Headquarters.         http://www.vtarmynavy.com/eureka_luxury_family_tents.htm None of the models shown on that page has a fly that completely covers the tent.  You WILL be sorry.

Gotta agree with the Milwaukee rat slasher on this one. Don’t know how much attention you paid at the time but both of the tents Wolfie & I had set up on the Watauga had full coverage flies. When a thuderstorm dumps an inch of water on you in less than an hour, some of it arriving horizontally, you will appreciate having a full coverage fly. For comparison, take a look at The North Face Bedrock http://content.thenorthface.com/index_products.html — Ken Fortenberry

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I’m shopping for a tent for car camping. I’m considering either Cabelas Truck Tent or the Alaknak tent (also from Cabelas). If anyone has experience with or opinions about these tents, or recommendations of other tents, I’m interested in hearing about them. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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or recommendations of other tents, I’m interested in hearing about them.

I like the Eureka! Timberline models for car camping. — Charlie…

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I’m shopping for a tent for car camping. …

We’ve been real happy with The North Face. — Ken Fortenberry

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rw,    I made a nice rig for my Datsun pick up for camping.  It slept two people, had a table, stove, sink, water, cabinet and storage areas. It was really great for fishing trips.  Mounted my Honda Trail 110 on the back and an inflatable raft on the top.  I went all over the Sierras with it. Ernie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m shopping for a tent for car camping. I’m considering either Cabelas Truck Tent or the Alaknak tent (also from Cabelas). If anyone has experience with or opinions about these tents, or recommendations of other tents, I’m interested in hearing about them.

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I pulled it with a four cylinder Pinto all over creation.  Seriously.  I could maneuver the little unit by myself and it contained all of the basic necessities….(pepper mill replaced….but I think the little lady bought to delicate of a set at the garage sale). Containing all of the necessary things and requiring nothing more than ‘folding up or unfolding’ it made, in essense, car camping much morer convenient. ‘Course, they don’t make my type….a "Cox’ anymore….they were made in Grifton, NC. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m shopping for a tent for car camping. I’m considering either Cabelas Truck Tent or the Alaknak tent (also from Cabelas). If anyone has experience with or opinions about these tents, or recommendations of other tents, I’m interested in hearing about them. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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OK, this is old, but it looks like it’s expired, so I’m going to post it here again.  40 of the 47 Page-A-Day calendars are ready for download. They never could get the 4 puzzle calendars [Bridge, Mensa, Scrabble, Chess] and the 2 web calendars [Fly Fishing, Audubon Birds] to work, so those 6 have been scrapped.  The 365 NEW WORDS A DAY works, but has a weird little problem with the pronunciation font.  They’re working on it, but I’m not going to post another update when that’s fixed. So, that leaves 40 good working calendars, and if you really don’t care about the pronunciation font, you can count it as 41.  Here’s where you can find them: http://www.page-a-day.com/downloads.html If you’re looking for a ZODIAC sign calendar, and #freeasd’ers have occasionally heard me read from them, you can find them at [for example] http://www.page-a-day.com/beta/hari.exe http://www.page-a-day.com/beta/htau.exe http://www.page-a-day.com/beta/hcan.exe I think you can see the pattern.  For a MAC version, replace the .exe with .hqx and download that instead. Each download calendar is about 2 Meg in size, unless it’s a PHOTO calendar, which is about 3 Meg.  Their servers are a little flaky and you might need to download more than once. Also, the Photo calendars only go to the end of March, but you can download the quarterly updates, and this is where you’ll find those. http://www.page-a-day.com/cars/download.html http://www.page-a-day.com/cats/download.html http://www.page-a-day.com/dogs/download.html http://www.page-a-day.com/gard/download.html <– Gardens http://www.page-a-day.com/golf/download.html <– Golf Holes I’ve had no trouble running several calendars at once. — Salt of the Earth

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OK, this is old, but it looks like it’s expired, so I’m going to post it here again.  40 of the 47 Page-A-Day calendars are ready for download. They never could get the 4 puzzle calendars [Bridge, Mensa, Scrabble, Chess] and the 2 web calendars [Fly Fishing, Audubon Birds] to work, so those 6 have been scrapped.  The 365 NEW WORDS A DAY works, but has a weird little problem with the pronunciation font.  They’re working on it, but I’m not going to post another update when that’s fixed. So, that leaves 40 good working calendars, and if you really don’t care about the pronunciation font, you can count it as 41.  Here’s where you can find them: http://www.page-a-day.com/downloads.html If you’re looking for a ZODIAC sign calendar, and #freeasd’ers have occasionally heard me read from them, you can find them at [for example] http://www.page-a-day.com/beta/hari.exe <– Aries http://www.page-a-day.com/beta/htau.exe <– Taurus http://www.page-a-day.com/beta/hcan.exe <– Cancer I think you can see the pattern.  For a MAC version, replace the .exe with .hqx and download that instead. Each download calendar is about 2 Meg in size, unless it’s a PHOTO calendar, which is about 3 Meg.  Their servers are a little flaky and you might need to download more than once. Also, the Photo calendars only go to the end of March, but you can download the quarterly updates, and this is where you’ll find those. http://www.page-a-day.com/cars/download.html http://www.page-a-day.com/cats/download.html http://www.page-a-day.com/dogs/download.html http://www.page-a-day.com/gard/download.html <– Gardens http://www.page-a-day.com/golf/download.html <– Golf Holes I’ve had no trouble running several calendars at once. — Salt of the Earth

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        As far as I’ve been able to ascertain, no one really knows exactly how far back fly fishing dates. Based on caves drawings and such, we do know that our stoop shouldered, uni-browed ancestors did, in fact, fish. Of course, early fishing techniques lacked a lot of the finesse associated with modern angling. Rods, for instance, were much shorter and heavier, and were used in a somewhat different manner than we are accustomed to. A prehistoric angler, favorite rod in hand, would wade out into a stream and take position. He’d carefully balance his tackle, assuring himself that his grip was firm and proper. After quietly surveying the water, he’d swing the rod in the classic ‘ten o’clock – one o’clock – ten o’clock’ manner. Then he’d bash a fish in the head, pick it up, and eat it raw on the spot.         This style of fishing eventually developed into two distinct areas: one group preferred ’sight bashing’, preferring to actually see a fish before swinging. The other tribe members stuck with the more old fashioned form of ‘blind bashing’. The sight-bashers soon came to hate the blind-bashers, claiming that their particular style was messing up the fishing. The blind-bashers fired back with the old traditionalism vs. neo-fishism, and the debate raged, leading to an inevitable spilt up of the tribe. One group moved upstream and the other, down. It wasn’t long before a splinter group of blind bashers decided that using longer poles was the way to go. They, too, eventually moved out to practice their particular style of fish catching. Before you knew it, ideological angling dichotomy had forced civilization to spread to the four corners of the globe. (Interestingly enough, many of these philosophical arguments continue to this day.)         Of course, early fishermen never really looked upon their labors as being a sport. Owing to the presence of other predators on the stream in those days (saber-toothed tigers, tyrannosauruses, etc.), the prehistoric angler constantly ran the risk of being eaten raw on the spot himself. When a trip to the ol’ fishing hole meant a 50/50 shot of being dinner instead of getting dinner, angling could hardly be considered recreational relaxation. It would be many years before people would look upon fishing as anything but a free, albeit risky, meal.         Our angling ancestors did, however, contribute one thing to the sport which has remained with us. One fine morning, an aboriginal angler (we’ll call him ‘Nok’) was working his favorite stream. At the time of the incident, Nok was using the forerunner of today’s electronic fish finder…that is to say he was knee-deep in the stream, bent over with his head fully submerged. As he scanned the water for his breakfast, a large, fish/angler eating cave bear was also surveying the stream for an early repast. It spotted Nok’s exposed backside, strolled over, sniffed, and then took a tentative exploratory nibble.         Now, a modern angler, no longer attuned to the wilderness environment due to ions of soft, urban living, would have surely met certain death under the same circumstances. Nok, on the other hand, reflexes sharply honed by years of eat-or-be-eaten fishing, reacted instantly. In an explosive, blinding fury of splashing, clubbing, and squealing, Nok was out of the stream and up a tree before the bear’s jaws could clamp completely shut. The astonished bear, left with nothing more than a good soaking and a small piece of loincloth dangling from one tooth, just stood and gazed upward at the terrified caveman, whose trembling had quickly denuded the tree of its leaves. After a fashion, it ambled off in search of a less frisky (and somewhat quieter) meal.         Later that evening, while sitting around the campfire, Nok regaled his small band of fellow anglers with a vivid (and, of course, slightly exaggerated) account of the day’s event. Like all good fishermen, the tribe listened quietly to the story, all the while rolling their eyes and winking at each other when Nok wasn’t looking their way. It wasn’t until Nok turned around and presented the physical evidence that they  believed that this wasn’t just another fishing tale. After much congratulatory grunting and chest pounding, the tribal elder announced that from that evening on Nok would be forever known as ‘Gup Nar’…The One That Got Away. "The gods do not subtract from the allotted span of men’s lives the hours spent in fishing" – ASSYRIAN TABLET (2000 B.C.) Copyright 1997 Da’ Capn

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When was the strike indicator invented?  Is that in part 2? George Adams

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When was the strike indicator invented?

the day the music died… wayno

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A very well researched and thought out article.  In fact there is some evidence to suggest that our uni-browed ancestors were indeed the biological forerunner of todays polarized sunglasses.     Nature, realizeing that the "Uni-Brow" enabled prehistoric man to fish better – the "uni-brow"  helping to cut down on the surface glare from the water – and being unable to develope polarized eyesight from an evolutionary aspect, procedd to evolve (remember Darwin?) a more intelligent species of hominoid who could later invent polarized sunglassed.     Contrary to the established dogma that man gave up hunter-gatherer society to form an agrarian culture to brew beer, modern theorists now opine it was for the purpose of inventing polarized sunglasses to pursue better fishing.     It is, however, well recorded that primitive man related his tales of adventure around the campfire on the night s of the full moon.  And thus, when Nok exposed his backside to prove the veracity of his tale . . . invented the term "mooning."     Practice C&R and you can kill it later . . . . . . .john

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Looking to fly fish in the Smokies the end of May.  Any input or suggestions would be appreciated.  TIA. Bruce —

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Where in the Smokies? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looking to fly fish in the Smokies the end of May.  Any input or suggestions would be appreciated.  TIA. Bruce —

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Thanks for the reply.  Big Cr. and Cataloochee. We are tent campers and realize the areas may be busy.  Any input is appreciated. Joyce and Bruce — FRIENDSHIP True friendship comes when silence between two friends is comfortable.

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writes:   Chuck Barris and Jaye P. Morgan ?   —   TimW Finally someone said it!  I couldn’t come up with Barris. Gong fishing indeed.

I met a guy once that was a winner on the Gong show.   He played "Rudolf the Rednose Reindeer"  with his arm pit. I’ve been fishing just about every day for the past two weeks.  The cayuga lake german browns have been in the tributaries for the past few weeks. The water is very low and clear however and the fish are really spooked. Yesterday, however I went downstream a bit and just before dark had a couple of takes and lost both of them.  A kid next to me that had never caught a fish on a flyrod before caught a nice lake trout though.   John Fereira Stop Unsolicited Commercial Email – Join CAUCE (http://www.cauce.org) Support HR 1748, the anti-spam bill.

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Finally someone said it!  I couldn’t come up with Barris. I met a guy once that was a winner on the Gong show.   He played "Rudolf the Rednose Reindeer"  with his arm pit.

You fella’s are showing the signs of a misspent youth… (bravo) Tony, have a great trip to Antarctica…please, please share with us your notes when you return… Hark !!!  There Goes…..Glacierman ! — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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Gene Gene The Dancing Machine — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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Gene Gene The Dancing Machine — TimW Halfordian Golfer         Didn’t Chuck Barris always seem stoned?  His eyes were alays red slits.  I wonder if HE fishes. JE

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Chuck and JP Morgan were burnin’ bones before each and every show. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gene Gene The Dancing Machine — TimW Halfordian Golfer         Didn’t Chuck Barris always seem stoned?  His eyes were alays red slits.  I wonder if HE fishes. JE

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Dear Fellow Fly Fisherman: Have any of you tried to fly fish from the beach in a tropical country such as Brazil?? Well, I’d be spending 3 weeks in an island in Southern Brazil in December. I grow up in this place and I know there is fish everywhere. I am going to take my fly rod down there hoping to catch some fish. Here are my questions: 1) What fly patterns should I take? Are there any basic ones? 2) How should I fish? Botton? Am I too crazy or is it really worth giving it a shot? I’d'd love to hear from anyone! Thanks a lot! Marcelo

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I know I am, if only for an hour at lunch today.  A little stretch of the Big Thompson here in Loveland.  The water is perfect right now and the wild browns will surely be feeding during the warmest part of the day.  I got the 3 weight rigged in the van, 6X and a #20 Adams.  Almost a sure thing.  People look at me funny as they stroll the bike path while I’m waist deep in the river with a tie on.

  Gee Jon, I ran the bike path today during the lunch hour and I only saw two guys fishing.   The first guy had parked his Winston Edition Humvee Up by the compost center on Wilson. He was attired exquisitely, all the way down to his custom Gucci wading boots. I noticed he was casting a 7 1/2 ft Payne with a rare Bogdan trout reel, I use the word "casting" lightly because he looked like a blind man trying to beat a mouse to death with a broomstick as he whipped the water into foam.   The second guy had parked his 68 Dodge (with mismatched snow tires and a coat hanger antennae) by the First St bridge. I didn’t see his rod, but he did have a long handled dip net. There were a bunch of empty bleach bottles on the bank, and he had two coolers full of trout.   Sorry I didn’t see you out there, I think.                                       Charlie

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I know I am, if only for an hour at lunch today.  A little stretch of the Big Thompson here in Loveland.  The water is perfect right now and the wild browns will surely be feeding during the warmest part of the day.  I got the 3 weight rigged in the van, 6X and a #20 Adams.  Almost a sure thing.  People look at me funny as they stroll the bike path while I’m waist deep in the river with a tie on.         Sometimes they’ll stop and ask:         "Any fish in there?"         And of course I say:         "Oh no, I’m just practicing my casts"         But if they looked a little closer they’d see the numerous rises 20 feet above me in the current.  It’s good to be alive.         Anybody else gonna wet a line today?  I’ll let you know how I did tommorow, or maybe a little later this evening.         Well, I guess noone fished yesterday.  Very very sad.  I managed to land two and lose two in my 45 minutes of VFT (valuable fishing time). The most rewarding was a brown working close to the bank.  After twenty minutes of perfect drifts being nudged aside in lieu of naturals, a 15" brown casually sucked my Adams in.  What a day, what a day. JE

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I know I am, if only for an hour at lunch today.  A little stretch of the Big Thompson here in Loveland.  The water is perfect right now and the wild browns will surely be feeding during the warmest part of the day.  I got the 3 weight rigged in the van, 6X and a #20 Adams.  

Tomorrow, all day, on the Yakima, and the fishing is hot.  Skipping work, oh, there is no better feeling… — Andrew Brunette

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I am: fished the Unec, and although it was cold (45) and windy, still managed to fool a few brownies, one marble, and several nice grayling. Hope I don’t get a job anytime soon… Mike in Slovenia Hey Mike, sounds great, but what’s a "marble"? JE

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you guys should be banished forever form roff… this just ain’t fair and I mean it

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  Chuck Barris and Jaye P. Morgan ?   —   TimW

Finally someone said it!  I couldn’t come up with Barris. Gong fishing indeed. -tgades — Tony Gades. Seattle, WA.  USA http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades/Fishing/fish_page.html email: replace the "this_address_is_wrong" with "tgades"

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I know I am, if only for an hour at lunch today.  A little stretch of the Big Thompson here in Loveland.  The water is perfect right now and the wild browns will surely be feeding during the warmest part of the day.  I got the 3 weight rigged in the van, 6X and a #20 Adams.  Almost a sure thing.  People look at me funny as they stroll the bike path while I’m waist deep in the river with a tie on.         Sometimes they’ll stop and ask:         "Any fish in there?"         And of course I say:         "Oh no, I’m just practicing my casts"         But if they looked a little closer they’d see the numerous rises 20 feet above me in the current.  It’s good to be alive.         Anybody else gonna wet a line today?  I’ll let you know how I did tommorow, or maybe a little later this evening. JE

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Anybody else gonna wet a line today?  I’ll let you know how I did tommorow, or maybe a little later this evening.

I fished today. Although we are experienceing very low water conditions in the Southeast it was a good day. The air now feels like fall and the water has cooled(what there is of it). Caught a few, lost a few, missed a few. Talked with some other anglers on the stream. Regards, J. Webb Atlanta Mac User Group "It may be big but it is still MicroSoft"

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What do you conceder your favorite PA stream and why? I am planning a trip this fall and would like to fish one of the blue

ribbon waters of PA. Roger,         Though new to fly fishing, I found the Tulpehocken Creek special regulation area is as fine a blue ribbon fishery as any in Pennsylvania.  I have spoken to a few fisherman and tackle shops locally and they all agree.  The only problem is these fish are some of the most finicky in the state, but there is one advantage here, if you’re married and you want to bring the mate, Vanity Fair outlets are real close by. — Randy Junk e-mail, solicitation, sales, products and services gladly accepted at $500.00 per mailing and billed directly to your ISP.

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What do you conceder your favorite PA stream and why? I am planning a trip this fall and would like to fish one of the blue ribbon waters of PA. Thank, Roger @

Roger; I think that someone in Montana, California, or New York has "rights" on the term "Blue Ribbon".  I’m not sure about "World Class".  That may need international copyrights.  Anyway, yeah, the Tulley has fish, but may not after this summer.  I think it’s waters got too warm.  I’ll give you a list of some of the best, established waters in the Keystone state, and then you ought to get a copy of the Mid Atlantic Flyfishers Guide.  You can contact flyshops that monitor the respective waters.   Fishing Creek in Lamar Spring Creek: Between State College and Bellefonte. West Branch of the Delaware below the Cannonsville Res. Yellow Breeches, Carlisle (sp?) Little Lehigh, and most other Lehigh Valley streams, Allentown Falling Spring, Chambersburg Penns’ Creek, Centre County Lackawaxen (I cannot remember how to spell this) Spruce Creek (mostly private, but arrangements can be made), Tyrone, There are lots of others, but these are some of the higher profile streams, and for good reason.  I like other streams in the N.W. part of the state, but the good ones often get too hot in the summer and kill all of the stocked fish.  You will want a guide for Penns Creek.  On the other streams, you can do well without a guide, but you will need advice.  These streams are well fished almost all year ’round by some very good anglers who know the water well. You will be fishing for (mostly) seasoned, experienced fish. Jason Beary

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What do you conceder your favorite PA stream and why? I am planning a trip this fall and would like to fish one

of the blue ribbon waters of PA. Thank, Roger

Roger: WHERE in PA? PA has more running water than any state except Alaska. Be specific about location and I can help. The Breeches Penns Creek Fishing Creek White Deer Loyalsok Lehigh Stony Creek Plus MANY others are great!

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What do you conceder your favorite PA stream and why? I am planning a trip this fall and would like to fish one of the blue ribbon waters of PA. Roger; I think that someone in Montana, California, or New York has "rights" on the term "Blue Ribbon".

I have a book at titled "Blue Ribbon Trout Streams".  It’s about many of the streams in California. John Fereira Stop Unsolicited Commercial Email – Join CAUCE (http://www.cauce.org) Support HR 1748, the anti-spam bill.

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3M makes a fly line dressing that brings out the natural lubricants in the line itself and puts more on it.  Great Great Great STuff

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writes: Has anybody tried "lard" (yes, I mean pure porky lard for cooking) or any other greasy-oily domestic product?

     In the Bad Old Days of silk lines, commercial line dressings contained lanolin (i.e., mutton fat), but what good lard would do on a vinyl-covered line, I don’t know.  Silicones act like oils but are much less sensitive to changes in temperature (and do not become rancid!)      Wash your line in warm water and mild soap, rinse, then wipe dry with a soft cloth.  You will be surprised how much better a clean line floats and shoots than a dirty one.  – Roger

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Does anybody know of any domestic product we could use to apply on fly lines instead of these expensive silicone products a careful fisherman must buy many times a year in order to protect his line? Has anybody tried "lard" (yes, I mean pure porky lard for cooking) or any other greasy-oily domestic product? Fly fishing is older than "silicone" I believe, so what would ancient fly fishers use on their lines? …of course we know they didn’t use synthetic lines as we do now, but still! I am asking before I try for I am bored by the commercial aspect of fishing.  And I do go fishing every day. If some of you fly fishers out there would kindly give me informations on this by E-Mail, I would gather the answer and publish them in an article here in the NewsGroup.  It might be helpful for all of us. If I get no answer, well next year I’ll know because I’ll try a few tricks. Thanks for reading me.  If you got any answer you can mail ‘em to me (Jean-Pierre) at E-Mail address:

I think that a can of Mucilin is about as much as a mocha? William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA

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Does anybody know of any domestic product we could use to apply on fly lines instead of these expensive silicone products a careful fisherman must buy many times a year in order to protect his line? Has anybody tried "lard" (yes, I mean pure porky lard for cooking) or any other greasy-oily domestic product? Fly fishing is older than "silicone" I believe, so what would ancient fly fishers use on their lines? …of course we know they didn’t use synthetic lines as we do now, but still! I am asking before I try for I am bored by the commercial aspect of fishing.  And I do go fishing every day. If some of you fly fishers out there would kindly give me informations on this by E-Mail, I would gather the answer and publish them in an article here in the NewsGroup.  It might be helpful for all of us. If I get no answer, well next year I’ll know because I’ll try a few tricks. Thanks for reading me.  If you got any answer you can mail ‘em to me (Jean-Pierre) at E-Mail address:

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We are very pleased to announce the all new, FISHINTERNET AUSTRALIA http://www.fishnet.com.au/ This internet service is dedicated to the Australian recreational fishing scene. Sections cover all aspects of fishing in Australia with excellent information resources, fishing reports from around the country, full directory of all tackle shops, marine dealers, charters, guides, resorts etc. Please let us know what you think of this new service. Regards, David Dryden         Fishinternet Australia         http://www.fishnet.com.au/ I checked your page. It looks good. Can you help me with advice on fly-fishing for Barramundi in the Cairns / Port Douglas area, or even further north into Cape York. I’ve heard this is something of a new frontier in salt water fly fishing and that the Barramunid is excellent quarry. I will be in the area for 2 weeks in September. I’d like to know about seasons, flies, techniques, guides, etc. Thanks. Christopher Payne. Can you assure me of the availability of that nectar of the gods known

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We are very pleased to announce the all new, FISHINTERNET AUSTRALIA http://www.fishnet.com.au/ This internet service is dedicated to the Australian recreational fishing scene. Sections cover all aspects of fishing in Australia with excellent information resources, fishing reports from around the country, full directory of all tackle shops, marine dealers, charters, guides, resorts etc. Please let us know what you think of this new service. Regards, David Dryden         Fishinternet Australia         http://www.fishnet.com.au/

I checked your page. It looks good. Can you help me with advice on fly-fishing for Barramundi in the Cairns / Port Douglas area, or even further north into Cape York. I’ve heard this is something of a new frontier in salt water fly fishing and that the Barramunid is excellent quarry. I will be in the area for 2 weeks in September. I’d like to know about seasons, flies, techniques, guides, etc. Thanks. Christopher Payne.

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We are very pleased to announce the all new, FISHINTERNET AUSTRALIA http://www.fishnet.com.au/ This internet service is dedicated to the Australian recreational fishing scene. Sections cover all aspects of fishing in Australia with excellent information resources, fishing reports from around the country, full directory of all tackle shops, marine dealers, charters, guides, resorts etc. Please let us know what you think of this new service. Regards, David Dryden          Fishinternet Australia          http://www.fishnet.com.au/

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My schedule will allow a trip to Northern California the first or second week of November.  How does the McCloud fish during this time(AH DI NAH)? Hatches? Flies?  What should I expect in the way of weather. Other suggestions for a week this time of year trout-bumming around? Reed Guice

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My schedule will allow a trip to Northern California the first or second week of November.  How does the McCloud fish during this time(AH DI NAH)? Hatches? Flies?  What should I expect in the way of weather. Other suggestions for a week this time of year trout-bumming around? Reed Guice

Reed  It has been my experience that it will rain, hatches will be small if at all.and HUGE browns will eat sculpins till Midnight !! It may be late for most bugs,maybe a few Fall Caddis, Baetis etc .I think the season close’s the 15th so check.   Harry

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Ah, the McCloud River.  The season closes 11/15.  Stonefly nymphs, orange stimulators for the Oct Caddis, adams 14, glo bugs, orange soft hackles, bead head caddis olive and orange will all work well.  There hasn’t been much of the famed Oct Caddis hatch so far because it hasn’t really gotten cold yet.  Early Nov could be perfect.  Of course there is a computer game called Fly Fishing the McCloud River that I saw in Orvis SF that would probably tell you exactly what will be going on in November Big Rock

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1st week of June can be tough. Around Ennis you can hit the Madison, (but it will, probably be roiled from run-off) the Ruby and the Big Hole (it’s a haul from  Ennis but generally always fishable). Big Hole is best fished while floating. Or, you can go into the park and fish the Firehole and the Gibbons. Prince nymphs in the morning and Mothers Day Caddis in the afternoon. Best fishing is from 3pm to dark. Tight Lines! pdp

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A friend and I are planning a week of flyfishing in Montana June 3 – June 10.   I know it’s not the best time but you takes what you can get.  We do not have any specific itinerary but were planning to spend some time around Ennis, and some around two rivers. Anybody have any specific recommendations for that time?  Any specific flies?   I have heard that San Juan worms are a must if the water is up. Anyway, I would appreciate any suggestions. Bill Feinberg

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