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Quasi-TR: Bones and tarpon in the BVI – Part 1 of 2
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My wife arranged a ten day trip to the British Virgin Islands to combine some flyfishing with a 25th anniversary tropic island getaway.
i can’t believe you didn’t invite us….. <g –waldo…. your excitement is contagious….
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Outstanding trip reports and great photo’s!! Gary
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Good one, tripper. A most appreciated report on a cold, wet Sunday in autumnal Melbourne. I’m particularly please dto hear the SO seems to have had a good time as well … give’s me hope :-)
Steve
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fwiw, I posted a couple of shots on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing, one of a bone being brought to hand, followed by the obligatory hero shot.
Sounds like a great trip. Thanks for the report. TL MC
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[snip] – fishing the flats for bones is just a riot. I might be horribly spoiled by the experience. Only time will tell. I might try fishing the Rapid with a 2 weight to simulate the experience
Try fishing for stripers with a 2wt
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fwiw, I posted a couple of shots on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing, one of a bone being brought to hand,
Fabulous report. I can sense your excitement. Jealous as Hell! Willi
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fwiw, I posted a couple of shots on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing, one of a /daytripper (Could’ve fooled me – I thought we were dead meat! =8-O
Daytripper, Thanx for the report. Adding it to my deranged fantasy folder today! Best Wishes. DaveMohnsen Denver
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fwiw, I posted a couple of shots on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing, one of a bone being brought to hand, followed by the obligatory hero shot. My wife arranged a ten day trip to the British Virgin Islands to combine some flyfishing with a 25th anniversary tropic island getaway. We started at Anegada Reef, as I did half-days fishing the mangroves for bones with Dave "Clinton" Vanterpool, an outstanding guide and local legend. We followed that with a full week on Tortola, mixing tarpon fishing with beaching, sailing, and snorkeling. In short, it was a freakin’ blast of a trip – e-ticket stuff all the way. We came back with tans and smiles – and a couple of wicked line burns and sore knuckles. Anegada Island has roughly 120 people living on it at any given time. Total – including roughly 30 tourists spread out between the one hotel and the camping areas. There’s virtually nothing there from an economic view, save for the Anegada Reef Hotel where we stayed, a couple of beach bars on the north side, a couple of campgrounds, and a tiny general store. And the airport, of course. It is best known for diving opportunities on the 300 shipwrecks surrounding the reef, while the outstanding bonefish fishery is still just being "discovered" by outsiders. Thus I was the only person bonefishing while we were there. Which is simply unbelievable, given the size and quality of the flats, until one remembers where these flats are: surrounding an island with all of 120 people on it, somewhere in the BVI. If this place was in the Keys, it would be overrun. Bonefish are *unbelievably* strong – it is said a 16" bonefish has three times the strength and endurance of a 24" trout. I don’t doubt it – though none of the bones I caught was anywhere near that small. Even the runt of the trip was over 24 inches long and a good 6 pounds – and that fish stripped out over an honest 180 yards of line and backing on its first run against a strong drag. The largest rainbows I’ve ever caught couldn’t put anywhere near that kind of show even on a mere five weight rod – but these fish were putting the full flex on an 8 weight (a Winston BL5 5pc – lord, what a sweet sweet rod this one is, too). All the fish were caught on white Gotchas, cast to tailing bones and then stripped back with short strokes. After tying a bunch of Charlies, Crab Puffs, Velcro Crabs, Gotchas, and small Clousers, in at least three colors (white, pink, and green) I started and ended with white Gotchas. That is, after I realized the flies weren’t heavy enough relying on the hooks (Mustad 34007 #6 SS) and bead eyes alone, and wrapping on a chunk of copper wire scavenged from a wrecked truck. Like flipping a switch, once I added that weight to the Gotchas, the only way I’d miss a fish was to line it. Once I hooked up with a bone, the fish was off for the proverbial sunset. I was using 12# Mirage for tippet, and set the drag for the better part of that, putting a fine bend in the Winston, and could only hold on for dear life and be ready to gain line when the opportunity arose, all the while trying to keep the fish out of the mangroves and away from coral chunks. Wild. Most of the casts were between 60 and 80 feet out. Sometimes the bones would eat the fly after only a couple of short strips, other times they’d follow the fly halfway back to the boat before taking the fly. Getting rid of 40 feet of loose line in a hurry isn’t all that easy – I got a couple of good scorch marks for my slower efforts (and they hurted so good
Anyway…I can’t say enough about that whole experience. It was a total gas that won’t be forgotten soon. The Anegada Reef Hotel is a simple but comfortable place with great food, a wicked beach bar, and is operated by wonderful people. And Dave Vanterpool kept me in fish and in stitches each day – he’s a funny sonofabitch who knows the flats with his eyes closed, and will keep you on bones for as long as your arms can take the pressure. Wrapping it all up: – fishing the flats for bones is just a riot. I might be horribly spoiled by the experience. Only time will tell. I might try fishing the Rapid with a 2 weight to simulate the experience
– the Winston BL5 is simply a wonderful rod. This 5 piece casts as nicely as any two piece 7-9 weight I’ve ever used, and it is post-911 airline friendly. It might be cold to state it, but Winston was sitting in the catbird seat on 910. – spotting random bonefish is an acquired skill, but it isn’t that hard to acquire that skill. Good Polaroids are a must, and side shades help, imo. Looking for tails is obvious, looking for plumes of silt a little less so, but beyond that you’re looking for glints and moving shadows. But by the middle of the second morning I often spotted a fish before my guide saw it. – Don’t dismiss the 6 inch deep puddles along the shore. I missed what was probably a ten pound bone by striking too soon on my first shot of the first day. That fish was feeding with the upper third of its body out of the water, damnedest thing I’ve seen in a while. If I had hooked it I’d probably be wishing I’d brought the camera that day… – the Reddington AL9/10 stood up to as much abuse as I could give it. My reeling arm is still sore. The reel is fine. The drag system is the bees knees. – you *can* land a twin engine low-wing aircraft laden with 10 people and gear on a 2500 foot runway, and take off from the same field later. Really! I swear to God! Often! /daytripper (Could’ve fooled me – I thought we were dead meat! =8-O
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my god, stefan, as they say in rowan county, you ain’t worth shootin’!
your friend in the old north state wayno
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TR-Cohos and Cutts
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I fished Hood Canal yesterday with my fatherinlaw. We arrived at the beach at about 10:00 and just after getting our rods set up, my fatherinlaw was trying to set up our drift with the tide when I noticed a couple of coho rolling on the surface. I immediately started casting an ‘experimental’ floating candle fish pattern and they were all over it, unfortunately the line fouled around the hook. I switched to a dry fly and again they were all over it. I caught about 10-12 coho and 6-7 sea-run cutthroat in about 4 hours of fishing. The best fish of the day was about a 3-4 lb coho that launched itself about 4-5 times, and the best cutthroat was a feisty one about 16". Most of the fish were caught of a dry fly, which is just an absolute rush when they take it. This was my fatherinlaw first time flyfishing in 21 years, he caught one 14" cutt and had several other strikes. He said he had a great time and he will do more flyfishing. Boy it feels good to get somebody interested in the sport. Darin
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Nice TR Darin. Glad to hear you got some fishing time in. Missed having you around for the clave this year. — Warren Findley Remove (nospamZZ) to respond via email http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt/
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I fished Hood Canal yesterday with my fatherinlaw. We arrived at the beach at about 10:00 and just after getting our rods set up, my fatherinlaw was trying to set up our drift with the tide when I noticed a couple of coho rolling on the surface. I immediately started casting an ‘experimental’ floating candle fish pattern and they were all over it, unfortunately the line fouled around the hook. I switched to a dry fly and again they were all over it. I caught about 10-12 coho and 6-7 sea-run cutthroat in about 4 hours of fishing. The best fish of the day was about a 3-4 lb coho that launched itself about 4-5 times, and the best cutthroat was a feisty one about 16". Most of the fish were caught of a dry fly, which is just an absolute rush when they take it. This was my fatherinlaw first time flyfishing in 21 years, he caught one 14" cutt and had several other strikes. He said he had a great time and he will do more flyfishing. Boy it feels good to get somebody interested in the sport. Darin
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Darin: I lived in Lilliwaup for a few years, and fished the Hama Hama almost daily for sea run cutts and steelhead (fall and winter runs). Occasionally we’d putt out into the Canal proper when the salmon were running (well, ‘cept for the doggies – they came up river to us
Where on the Canal did you put in? /daytripper – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I fished Hood Canal yesterday with my fatherinlaw. We arrived at the beach at about 10:00 and just after getting our rods set up, my fatherinlaw was trying to set up our drift with the tide when I noticed a couple of coho rolling on the surface. I immediately started casting an ‘experimental’ floating candle fish pattern and they were all over it, unfortunately the line fouled around the hook. I switched to a dry fly and again they were all over it. I caught about 10-12 coho and 6-7 sea-run cutthroat in about 4 hours of fishing. The best fish of the day was about a 3-4 lb coho that launched itself about 4-5 times, and the best cutthroat was a feisty one about 16". Most of the fish were caught of a dry fly, which is just an absolute rush when they take it. This was my fatherinlaw first time flyfishing in 21 years, he caught one 14" cutt and had several other strikes. He said he had a great time and he will do more flyfishing. Boy it feels good to get somebody interested in the sport. Darin
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When we went passed Point No Point there were boats everywhere. There were also about 3-4 off of Point Hannon (Hoods Head). Where we fished there were none. We had all the water and all the fish to ourselves.
How does Point No Point come by its name? — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/
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When we went passed Point No Point there were boats everywhere. There were also about 3-4 off of Point Hannon (Hoods Head). Where we fished there were none. We had all the water and all the fish to ourselves. How does Point No Point come by its name?
LOL!…. it is one of the dumbest names for a point of land, aint it? it’s a point, no wait, it’s not, i swear it’s a point, no wait, it’s not <G chris…. who just loves unimaginative names for places
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Darin: I lived in Lilliwaup for a few years, and fished the Hama Hama almost daily for sea run cutts and steelhead (fall and winter runs). Occasionally we’d putt out into the Canal proper when the salmon were running (well, ‘cept for the doggies – they came up river to us
Where on the Canal did you put in? /daytripper
We actually put in in Port Townsend, some bright idea my fatherinlaw had <g, and motored down from there. We fished just a little south of the H.C. bridge. Darin
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Darin: I lived in Lilliwaup for a few years, and fished the Hama Hama almost daily for sea run cutts and steelhead (fall and winter runs). Occasionally we’d putt out into the Canal proper when the salmon were running (well, ‘cept for the doggies – they came up river to us
Where on the Canal did you put in? /daytripper We actually put in in Port Townsend, some bright idea my fatherinlaw had <g, and motored down from there. We fished just a little south of the H.C. bridge.
Whoops! PT to the bridge and back is a bit of a haul for a one day outing
You ever fish further south in the Canal? /daytripper
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Whoops! PT to the bridge and back is a bit of a haul for a one day outing
You’re not kidding! It was 1 1/2 hours each way. We could’ve had another 2 hours fishing if we’d gone to a closer ramp. You ever fish further south in the Canal?
I tried the zoo humpie fishery at Hoodsport one evening after work a couple of years ago. Lining up with 20-30 other guys looking for that 1 fish is not my idea of fun. I lasted about a 1/2 hour before I called it quits. Long drive from PT for a 1/2 hr fishing. Other than that, no, I haven’t fished further south, except for the Dose, Duck, and the Hamma rivers. Darin
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Hey Darin, On the Kitsap County side of the bridge turn left and go north about 1 mile and there is Salisbury (sp) Point. I do believe it is a park but they have an excellent boat ramp. In addition you may want to look at the Point no Point area to fish. Lots of fish being caught from the beach and boats. I couldn’t entice any to my fly rod but I saw a few other flyfishers catch em. Primarily humpies ( in the ocean phase no hump) and silvers. Dave —
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Whoops! PT to the bridge and back is a bit of a haul for a one day outing
You’re not kidding! It was 1 1/2 hours each way. We could’ve had another 2 hours fishing if we’d gone to a closer ramp. You ever fish further south in the Canal? I tried the zoo humpie fishery at Hoodsport one evening after work a couple of years ago. Lining up with 20-30 other guys looking for that 1 fish is not my idea of fun. I lasted about a 1/2 hour before I called it quits. Long drive from PT for a 1/2 hr fishing. Other than that, no, I haven’t fished further south, except for the Dose, Duck, and the Hamma rivers. Darin
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Good to hear you’re out fishing. Missed your enthusiasm at the Clave. Willi
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Good to hear you’re out fishing. Missed your enthusiasm at the Clave. Willi
I missed being at the clave, especially after seeing that pig that RW caught. Must have been great to have seen it in person. Dairn
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Hey Darin, On the Kitsap County side of the bridge turn left and go north about 1 mile and there is Salisbury (sp) Point. I do believe it is a park but they have an excellent boat ramp. In addition you may want to look at the Point no Point area to fish. Lots of fish being caught from the beach and boats. I couldn’t entice any to my fly rod but I saw a few other flyfishers catch em. Primarily humpies ( in the ocean phase no hump) and silvers. Dave
Theres one on the Jeff. Co. side too. My fatherinlaw just wanted to be near a dock. Old timers….. what can I say? <G. When we went passed Point No Point there were boats everywhere. There were also about 3-4 off of Point Hannon (Hoods Head). Where we fished there were none. We had all the water and all the fish to ourselves. Darin
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Shadow Casting?
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I could be mistaken but I thought I read (perhaps it was about George LaBranche) how he would constantly cast while keeping the fly above the water. The idea was to dupe trout into thinking there was a hatch going on. If my reading is correct, then this technique predates Maclean and dispells Borgers’ misinformation. Guess I’ll have to re-read THE DRY FLY AND FAST WATER.
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Shadow Casting… Is it real – or just something pretty dreamed up by Maclean and stunt-filmed by Redford. …and if it is real how does one attempt it. Ari Ari Bert Gaelle Bert +27 (0) 83 232 9903 +27 (0) 83 236 5308 Flyfishing Corner +27 (0) 11 447 7230 Shop 94, Admirals Court +27 (0) 11 882 8537 (fax) Cnr Craddock & Tyrwhitt www.troutfishing.co.za Street, Rosebank P.O.Box 79067 Senderwood 2145 South Africa
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Shadow Casting… Is it real – or just something pretty dreamed up by Maclean and stunt-filmed by Redford. ..
It’s the latter. Kevin
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Shadow Casting… Is it real – or just something pretty dreamed up by Maclean and stunt-filmed by Redford.
It’s been a while since I read the book. If memory serves me, it was just something that Paul MacLean made up. - Ken
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Ari, Go to Jason Borger’s website and read what he has to say about shadow casting. http://www.jasonborger.com/NewFiles/shadowcast.html Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Shadow Casting… Is it real – or just something pretty dreamed up by Maclean and stunt-filmed by Redford. …and if it is real how does one attempt it. Ari Ari Bert Gaelle Bert +27 (0) 83 232 9903 +27 (0) 83 236 5308 Flyfishing Corner +27 (0) 11 447 7230 Shop 94, Admirals Court +27 (0) 11 882 8537 (fax) Cnr Craddock & Tyrwhitt www.troutfishing.co.za Street, Rosebank P.O.Box 79067 Senderwood 2145 South Africa
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Shadow Casting… Is it real – or just something pretty dreamed up by Maclean and stunt-filmed by Redford. …and if it is real how does one attempt it. Ari Ari Bert Gaelle Bert +27 (0) 83 232 9903 +27 (0) 83 236 5308 Flyfishing Corner +27 (0) 11 447 7230 Shop 94, Admirals Court +27 (0) 11 882 8537 (fax) Cnr Craddock & Tyrwhitt www.troutfishing.co.za Street, Rosebank P.O.Box 79067 Senderwood 2145 South Africa
There is a little merit to it. If one can show only the leader and a fly over a certain area several times, it may arouse curiousity in a trout. They are more aware of what goes on above the surface than most give them credit, especially in lakes in calmer conditions. Bob S — Free Fly Fishing E-Magazine http://go.to/lakeflyfishing Lake Fly Fishing Instructional CD’s & VHS Top Fifty Lake Fly Patterns on CD-ROM
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Fly fishing Blues Music
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called the House Rockers. I remember I had an LP…33rpm…whatever… issued by Alligator Records. I think I bought it in the late seventies when I was in college in Minneapolis. The cover shot was of Hound Dog playing…was it a Fender Stratocaster?… along with his porkpie hat in a studio sitting next to small amp. Yes…he had other stuff on besides his hat. The print job on the album cover was a nice rich duotone photo in brown-sepia. Link to the album…you have a good memory. I believe he also played an old Rickenbacker. http://cdu2.cduniverse.com/asp/albuminfo.asp?LC=1455+4701&cart=850147… Here’s a link of a short bio: http://mathrisc1.lunet.edu/blues/Hound_Dog_Taylor.html and here’s a link of the early Alligator/Hound Dog history….. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B543 I tried to download a mp3 of his from the LYCOs mp3 site…but the links appear to be dead. -Wow…Hound Dog Taylor… excellent guitarist. Up there with Stevie Ray and Buddy Guy…
agreed….especially after he indulged
- Congatulate Matt for me. What store?
I believe he mentioned an Orvis store in Scranton….but I’m not sure. - When you get a chance please tell him to bring some of "Wayno’s Finger-Lickin’ Bar-B-Que Hot Sauce" along with "Wayno’s Ol’ Time Porch Sittin’ Lemonade" with him. A lot of wagers came in after the World Series and now us yanks are in cotton.
terrible series. –Walt — Ezflyfish.com http://www.ezflyfish.com BRBG http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112 Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001
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HR Blaine: <<I believe I have that on 33, but where I come from, we call it jazz. <g *Exactly*. That was my point, HR. I have managed to duplicate my entire jazz collection (vinyl 33s) with CDs. Manne, with Previn and Leroy Vinnegar on bass, was one of the first albums I started with in 55/56. Dave L.
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Walt Winter, man of letters and spirits, gives me the last word on Hound Dog Taylor: Link to the album…you have a good memory. I believe he also played an old Rickenbacker. http://cdu2.cduniverse.com/asp/albuminfo.asp?LC=1455+4701&cart=850147… Here’s a link of a short bio: http://mathrisc1.lunet.edu/blues/Hound_Dog_Taylor.html and here’s a link of the early Alligator/Hound Dog history….. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/x.dll?p=amg&sql=B543 I tried to download a mp3 of his from the LYCOs mp3 site…but the links appear to be dead. – Incredible Walt! Absolutely incredible! I still can’t get over the whole connectivity thing. Just great…something like this simply didn’t exist a few years ago. The ‘net…what power! And, let’s hope, it stays available to all for a long time… – By the way, do mean to tell me that for some blues artists, or for any performing artists for that matter, you can get a sound clip as well. Let me know when you get a chance. Kindest regards, Tony Ritter
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Manne, with Previn and Leroy Vinnegar
on bass, was one of the first albums I started with in 55/56.< Hmmm. My first was Miles Davis, Round Midnight. I was in college, mid-50s, had to "save up" a couple of bucks to buy it.
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HR Blaine: <<I believe I have that on 33, but where I come from, we call it jazz. <g *Exactly*. That was my point, HR. I have managed to duplicate my entire jazz collection (vinyl 33s) with CDs
i just wish i could duplicate your luck, louie my boy. wayno
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Wayno: <<<<I believe I have that on 33, but where I come from, we call it jazz. <g *Exactly*. That was my point, HR. I have managed to duplicate my entire jazz collection (vinyl 33s) with CDs
i just wish i could duplicate your luck, louie my boy. It ain’t luck, counselor. Told ya that long ago. <g I *may* be in Durham on the 10th. How far is that from your digs? Dinner? We have a school in Wilmington on the 10th, and *maybe* one in the Durham area on the 11th. Dave
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How about Robert Johnson, considered by many to be the most influencial blues musician of all time. The Blues and the food are the only two things I miss since moving from Chicago. Willi
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Walt: thanks for the links. Big Dale
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blues comment is about enough to make me jump! Too name of a few of the greatest are as follows all though some may be considered R & B… John Lee Hooker, Jimi Hendrix (yes, his blues cd is exceptional)
When I start driving in the morning on a trip of any length I prefer to start driving a couple of hours before dawn with The Jimi Hendrix Concerts and then follow it with my favorite flyfishing electric blues guy Eric Clapton’s album From The Cradle…the first cut Blues Before Sunrise will get you going. He also does a great cut of Hoochie Man on this album. I love the blues, but if I am driving from Dallas to Nashville and forget to set the cruise control when listening to some of the old acoustic stuff like Hank Williams’ Low Down Blues pretty soon I will be only driving about 35 mph and it will take forever to get there. I have to follow the blues with some punk rock like The Clash or The SezxPistols. Since I still like rockabilly another way to get going in the fast lane again particularly in East Arkansas or WesternTtenn. I put in Archive byThe Stray Cats…20 great cuts.. you gotta love those Fishnet Stockings and the song Gene and Eddie..I do agree that Hendrix’s blues cd is excellent, but then a lot of hard rockers and country artists have some great blues…check out Willie Nelson’s Milk Cow Blues sometime this is a great song. Blues are where you find them. I always found it kind of odd that a lot of American rockers learned the blues after a lot of the English rockers introduced the blues to them. Big Dale
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…Howlin Wolf…. now thars a name you don’t see mentioned to often. Way back in the early 70’s, I was associated with an all-white blues band that went by the name of Cadillac Jake. Anyway, we had a gig to open for the Wolf at a big ‘ole church (yeah, I know, but this is southside Chicago) and afterwords we all piled in a couple of vans and headed up to Florence’s to catch Hound Dog. I’ll never forget the electricity that was generated by that man (between gulps of Ole Grand Dad whisky, generously proffered by yours trully) and the way that he could swing from house-rockin’ blues to old southern blues. Amazing stuff. – I believe Hound Dog Taylor’s band was called the House Rockers. I remember I had an LP…33rpm…whatever… issued by Alligator Records. I think I bought it in the late seventies when I was in college in Minneapolis. The cover shot was of Hound Dog playing…was it a Fender Stratocaster?… along with his porkpie hat in a studio sitting next to small amp. Yes…he had other stuff on besides his hat. The print job on the album cover was a nice rich duotone photo in brown-sepia. -Wow…Hound Dog Taylor… excellent guitarist. Up there with Stevie Ray and Buddy Guy… As far as music at a site…..it can be annoying to some people. The other day on the way back from fishin’ with Matt, he had this tape that had a Louie Armstrong and Bing Crosby ditty called "Gone Fishin’" playing. I’ve been hummin it ever since and it would be kinda cool to have that playing in the background. Most web-designers discourage music though….takes up to much valuable load time. Speakin’ of Matt…he just got a job at some flyshop up in PA. He’s real excited about it (probably cuz’ us mountain hoosiers won’t be outfishin’ him nomore) and he’s even more excited about being able to fish the Delaware, Salmon, etc…. – Congatulate Matt for me. What store? – When you get a chance please tell him to bring some of "Wayno’s Finger-Lickin’ Bar-B-Que Hot Sauce" along with "Wayno’s Ol’ Time Porch Sittin’ Lemonade" with him. A lot of wagers came in after the World Series and now us yanks are in cotton. If you can’t beat ‘em… Regards, Tony Ritter in NY
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Louie, who is sticking with Brubeck, MJQ, Peterson, Mulligan, et al. Dave L. I guess you never know, I had you figured for show tunes<g.
Now *that’s* funny!
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"My Fair Lady" with Shelly Mann and
Andre Previn sounds good.< I believe I have that on 33, but where I come from, we call it jazz. <g
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"electric gitars do not belong on a blues record" ,they came in with post war urban groups that tried to drown the joint with volume. Sorry I can’t comment since I wasn’t there, but I believe the electric blues comment is about enough to make me jump! Too name of a few of the greatest are as follows all though some may be considered R & B… John Lee Hooker, Jimi Hendrix (yes, his blues cd is exceptional), Buddy Guy, BB King, Albert King, Albert Collins, Son House, Elmore James, Johnny Guitar Watson, Otis Rush and the list has just begun. Sorry to be abrupt and to the point but I feel your point on electric blues is a bit skewed. Tony Norton
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Charlie Choc: <<I guess you never know, I had you figured for show tunes<g. "My Fair Lady" with Shelly Mann and Andre Previn sounds good. D Dave L.
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Louie, who is sticking with Brubeck, MJQ, Peterson, Mulligan, et al. Dave L.
I guess you never know, I had you figured for show tunes<g. — Charlie…
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– Charlie…Wayno…y’all kin john in hear?
"any fish bite if you got good bait"<g — Charlie…
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– Hi Walt,- Indeed I did. And also The ‘Fess…Sippie Wallace…Howlin’ Wolf…Luther Vandross… – Luther Vandross? – Only kidding…by the way Walt it’s been about a year since we met in cyberspace and I value your opinion when it comes to the aesthetics of the web. Would it be too tacky to add a sound clip of let’s say Taj Mahal playing "The Fishing Song" to my site… you know…"ah’m I goin’ fishn’ you ah goin’ fishin’ and mah bebbe’s goin’ fishin’ too". – Charlie…Wayno…y’all kin john in hear? Waitin’ fo dee fyah…Tony Ritterin Noo Yawk
Howlin Wolf…. now thars a name you don’t see mentioned to often. Way back in the early 70’s, I was associated with an all-white blues band that went by the name of Cadillac Jake. Anyway, we had a gig to open for the Wolf at a big ‘ole church (yeah, I know, but this is southside Chicago) and afterwords we all piled in a couple of vans and headed up to Florence’s to catch Hound Dog. I’ll never forget the electricity that was generated by that man (between gulps of Ole Grand Dad whisky, generously proffered by yours trully) and the way that he could swing from house-rockin’ blues to old southern blues. Amazing stuff. As far as music at a site…..it can be annoying to some people. The other day on the way back from fishin’ with Matt, he had this tape that had a Louie Armstrong and Bing Crosby ditty called "Gone Fishin’" playing. I’ve been hummin it ever since and it would be kinda cool to have that playing in the background. Most web-designers discourage music though….takes up to much valuable load time. Speakin’ of Matt…he just got a job at some flyshop up in PA. He’s real excited about it (probably cuz’ us mountain hoosiers won’t be outfishin’ him nomore) and he’s even more excited about being able to fish the Delaware, Salmon, etc…. Gone Fishin’….. Walt — Ezflyfish.com http://www.ezflyfish.com BRBG http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112 Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001
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Walt Winter wrote Tony… You forgot Hound Dog Taylor. Waldo
- Hi Walt, – Indeed I did. And also The ‘Fess…Sippie Wallace…Howlin’ Wolf…Luther Vandross… – Luther Vandross? – Only kidding…by the way Walt it’s been about a year since we met in cyberspace and I value your opinion when it comes to the aesthetics of the web. Would it be too tacky to add a sound clip of let’s say Taj Mahal playing "The Fishing Song" to my site… you know…"ah’m I goin’ fishn’ you ah goin’ fishin’ and mah bebbe’s goin’ fishin’ too". – Charlie…Wayno…y’all kin john in hear? Waitin’ fo dee fyah… Tony Ritter in Noo Yawk
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Tony… you forgot Hound Dog Taylor. Waldo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sorry to say I did get a few recommendations on…(the blues) – Then try: In no order of preference: Albert King Stevie Ray Vaughn Bonnie Raitt John Mayall The Yardbirds (with Clapton) Johnny Lang Buddy Guy Robert Johnson Freddie King oh… and *early* Ry Cooder – especially "Paradise and Lunch" Kindest regards, Tony Ritter Narrowsburg, New York
– Ezflyfish.com http://www.ezflyfish.com BRBG http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112 Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001
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wayno, the musically deprived: <<hot damn! my retirement dream come true! i’m buyin a new set of black diamonds for the ol d-28 this very afternoon! #you take sally, i’ll take sue…# What a horrible vision — you singing while dressed in sequins! Hell, take your pick; either would be horrible, but together the thought is not only horrible, but obscene. If you did that, *everyone* would be…….changed. Louie, who is sticking with Brubeck, MJQ, Peterson, Mulligan, et al. Dave L.
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Sorry to say I did get a few recommendations on…(the blues)
- Then try: In no order of preference: Albert King Stevie Ray Vaughn Bonnie Raitt John Mayall The Yardbirds (with Clapton) Johnny Lang Buddy Guy Robert Johnson Freddie King oh… and *early* Ry Cooder – especially "Paradise and Lunch" Kindest regards, Tony Ritter Narrowsburg, New York
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w the foundation gives grants to blues artists…but only those older than 55 and with incomes below $18k per year. I think his label is called MusicMakers, or something like that. The N&O did a story on him about 4 months ago. Sounds like that might be what you are searching for.
hot damn! my retirement dream come true! i’m buyin a new set of black diamonds for the ol d-28 this very afternoon! #you take sally, i’ll take sue…# wayno
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Indian Joe, One of the best records I ever owned was a collection of LPs called the Blues Box, which I purchased in the mid-1960s. Man, talk about authentic blues! Sonny Terry, original Leadbelly, etc. Wish I had those records now. Bob Elliott, Rochester – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Did not get to enjoy much music at recent Fall Ball as you could not hear over loud mouth drunks and the CD player would only work if one person stood beside with his hand on top . Sorry to say I did get a few recommendations on blues. Sorry to say I purchased three of them and guess I will wrap them up for future clave raffles. You guys are confused about blues, or maybe just grew up to late to understand that blues are s a song of troubles, deep down hurting troubles, not just some bunch of guy playing and electric gitar with a bunch of be bops howling in the background. The Blind Pig 20th Anniversary Collecting is so badly recorded that you cannot understand the vocals over the electric gitars.. electric gitars do not belong on a blues record,they came in with post war urban groups that tried to drown the joint with volume. .The Alligator Records 20th Anniversary Collection has the same problems, seems to me these recording companies with ther rehash of misfits are just trying to rip you off, as there is no way locally to hear the cd before purchase. Then Charlie recommended Ry Cooder Buena Vista Social Club.D don’t know what you learned in music appreciation class in Georgia, but I now own a cd with a bunch of guys singing in some foreign language, I thought California had passed a law against all tha foreign lingo being used in our country. Perhaps I can sell it to some of the Latino working around the golf course. dIf you guys want to hear some blues try Leadbelly Alabame Bound RCA or Best fo the Blues #3 McA. It hurts but goes down good with manhattans. At next clave someone is really going to wonder who to blame when Indian Joe wins a box of beautiful flies and he receives a small round disk someone purported to be the blues. I Indian Joe Wilmington N.C
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…since you seem to be fond of direct talk IJ, let me suggest yer full of shit if you think alligator records CDs aint the blues. however, each to his own. Perhaps you should take a journey on the internet and check out the names of the folks who have been selected for the blues hall of fame…many of them are on the alligator record label. Also, i’ll be glad to take the blind pig and buena vista club cds off yer hands…let’s see, used cds in trade go for about 2 dollars… btw, there is a fella and his wife in pilot mountain, north carolina who started a foundation for the preservation of the "old-timey" blues music. the foundation gives grants to blues artists…but only those older than 55 and with incomes below $18k per year. I think his label is called MusicMakers, or something like that. The N&O did a story on him about 4 months ago. Sounds like that might be what you are searching for…i used to have his web site, but it’s changed and i don’t know if he’s relocated. charlie choc might have it… also, check out www.thebluehighway.com (that’s a web site IJ <G). you surely aren’t claiming that true blues musicians don’t/won’t/can’t play the electric guitar? or are you? sorry you didn’t care for the alligator records collection CD…but then, what was that gawdawful cd you made me play…and those movies you made me watch??? jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Did not get to enjoy much music at recent Fall Ball as you could not hear over loud mouth drunks and the CD player would only work if one person stood beside with his hand on top . Sorry to say I did get a few recommendations on blues. Sorry to say I purchased three of them and guess I will wrap them up for future clave raffles. You guys are confused about blues, or maybe just grew up to late to understand that blues are s a song of troubles, deep down hurting troubles, not just some bunch of guy playing and electric gitar with a bunch of be bops howling in the background. The Blind Pig 20th Anniversary Collecting is so badly recorded that you cannot understand the vocals over the electric gitars.. electric gitars do not belong on a blues record,they came in with post war urban groups that tried to drown the joint with volume. .The Alligator Records 20th Anniversary Collection has the same problems, seems to me these recording companies with ther rehash of misfits are just trying to rip you off, as there is no way locally to hear the cd before purchase. Then Charlie recommended Ry Cooder Buena Vista Social Club.D don’t know what you learned in music appreciation class in Georgia, but I now own a cd with a bunch of guys singing in some foreign language, I thought California had passed a law against all tha foreign lingo being used in our country. Perhaps I can sell it to some of the Latino working around the golf course. dIf you guys want to hear some blues try Leadbelly Alabame Bound RCA or Best fo the Blues #3 McA. It hurts but goes down good with manhattans. At next clave someone is really going to wonder who to blame when Indian Joe wins a box of beautiful flies and he receives a small round disk someone purported to be the blues. I Indian Joe Wilmington N.C
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Did not get to enjoy much music at recent Fall Ball as you could not hear over loud mouth drunks and the CD player would only work if one person stood beside with his hand on top . Sorry to say I did get a few recommendations on blues. Sorry to say I purchased three of them and guess I will wrap them up for future clave raffles. You guys are confused about blues, or maybe just grew up to late to understand that blues are s a song of troubles, deep down hurting troubles, not just some bunch of guy playing and electric gitar with a bunch of be bops howling in the background. The Blind Pig 20th Anniversary Collecting is so badly recorded that you cannot understand the vocals over the electric gitars.. electric gitars do not belong on a blues record,they came in with post war urban groups that tried to drown the joint with volume. .The Alligator Records 20th Anniversary Collection has the same problems, seems to me these recording companies with ther rehash of misfits are just trying to rip you off, as there is no way locally to hear the cd before purchase. Then Charlie recommended Ry Cooder Buena Vista Social Club.D don’t know what you learned in music appreciation class in Georgia, but I now own a cd with a bunch of guys singing in some foreign language, I thought California had passed a law against all tha foreign lingo being used in our country. Perhaps I can sell it to some of the Latino working around the golf course. dIf you guys want to hear some blues try Leadbelly Alabame Bound RCA or Best fo the Blues #3 McA. It hurts but goes down good with manhattans. At next clave someone is really going to wonder who to blame when Indian Joe wins a box of beautiful flies and he receives a small round disk someone purported to be the blues. I Indian Joe Wilmington N.C
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Rod builders out there . . . The subject company (a small business I suspect) offers graphite rod building kits for about $70. No manufacturer mentioned for the blanks. I am considering this as a good way to build a first rod and learn without spending big bucks on a good blank. The rod would then be used for teaching my 9 year old to cast and if I learn how to build a rod and feel confident, I’ll do one on a nice blank. Anyway: Have any of you folks built a rod from this guy and can you tell me if it was reasonable quality. I don’t want to pay $70 and find out it is junk. The web site is: http://www.jbrodco.com/ Let me know, Jim
Jim You could spend more for less at wally world, if you want or expect a custom sage, forget it. What do you want for 70 bucks..? Why don’t you ask him what kind of hardware is included..? You maybe should ask him to put it together for you too.
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As I indicated – I am looking for a good starter set of components I can use to learn on, before building a Sage or similar blank. I have no issue with spending a few bucks on good components or a completed rod (as all my rods are today) I want to try rod-building. I have asked him about the stuff, but I was looking for other opinions from those who may have actually bought a kit and used them. Jim * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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Hi Jim, As stated by another responding to you, ask the seller what components come with the kit. Things to look for are what the blank is made from, who makes it, is it fast or slow action, what is the warranty on the blank, does he have any references of those who have already built from the kit. Next I would get the name of the manufacturer of the various components, I.E., reel seat, guides (ask how many stripping guides), cork handle, thread, type of finishing materials included and any other stuff you can think of. I would than look on the net to compare prices or get a few catalogs from places like Angler’s Workshop, Head & Tails, Cabelas, Dale Clemens and whomever else you can think of who sells blanks and rod building gear. There are rod building sights on the net in addition to magazines devoted to the subject. You might want to check out Fly Rod & Reel and Fly Fishing and Tying Journal. I have seen classified ads in these magazines for blanks and kits. I have found blanks in the past that are absolutely incredible. Some are only $3-4 per foot, and are so good that I can not, for the life of me, explain how the big guys like Sage, Loomis, T&T and others get so much for their blanks/rods. Good luck with your project. No matter what you eventually purchase, you will enjoy the process with your son and it will help you make informed decisions for future projects. Pete
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Rod builders out there . . . The subject company (a small business I suspect) offers graphite rod building kits for about $70. No manufacturer mentioned for the blanks. I am considering this as a good way to build a first rod and learn without spending big bucks on a good blank. The rod would then be used for teaching my 9 year old to cast and if I learn how to build a rod and feel confident, I’ll do one on a nice blank. Anyway: Have any of you folks built a rod from this guy and can you tell me if it was reasonable quality. I don’t want to pay $70 and find out it is junk. The web site is: http://www.jbrodco.com/ Let me know, Jim * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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Rod builders out there . . . The subject company (a small business I suspect) offers graphite rod building kits for about $70. No manufacturer mentioned for the blanks. I am considering this as a good way to build a first rod and learn without spending big bucks on a good blank. The rod would then be used for teaching my 9 year old to cast and if I learn how to build a rod and feel confident, I’ll do one on a nice blank. Anyway: Have any of you folks built a rod from this guy and can you tell me if it was reasonable quality. I don’t want to pay $70 and find out it is junk. The web site is: http://www.jbrodco.com/ Let me know, Jim * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these? Thanks for any help. Simon
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I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these? Thanks for any help. Simon
Check out the St Croix Imperial 4 pc 5/6 or 6/7. Either one will set you back $150 and well worth the price. Frank Church Elkhart, IN
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Yes. Check out Fenwick. I own a FF756-4 that’s 4 piece glass 6 weight. Comes with a nice bag and case for $100. but you might think about the GFS70ML-4 HMG graphite spin-fly rod at $115. Buena suerte, Lou Lampe
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Simon, I bought an 8wt from http://www.brazosflyfishers.com/ Lauren and her husband were wonderful at helping i the selection. I highly recommend these nice folks. Cheers, Mitch – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these? Thanks for any help. Simon
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What ever you decide, may I suggest that you cast the rod before buying. Having been at this game for 60 plus years, I still think that the biggest mistake that people make is buying by brand name rather than choosing the rod that complements their casting style. Best of luck. J.
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I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these? Thanks for any help. Simon
Hi, Not all the Cortland CL 4 piece rods cast well. The 8′ #4/5 with a #5 and the 8′6" #4/5 with a #5 both are pretty good for $110 with an aluminum tube. You might also try the 8′6" #5/6 with a #6 line. The 9′ #5/6 and the 9′ #6/7 are both pretty ‘cluby’ or ‘boardy’. St. Croix has some pretty good 4 piece rods at around $150. They come in 9′#5/6 and 9′#6/7 in 4 piece with a Cordura covered plastic tube. If you can get up to the $200 to $300 range, Sage, Loomis, Scott and T&T have some real great casting 3 and 4 piece rods that are lighter than the Cortland, St. Croix or Redington. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com
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I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these? Thanks for any help. Simon
I recently bought a St. Croix Imperial 9′ 5/6 4pc rod and highly recommend it. It cost $150. Not sure how that compares to the price on the Cortland.
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I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these?
Fsihed a demo Redington Red Start 5/6 wgt yesterday – a great rod for the $$$. Rod, reel, line, backing & leader, plus jazzy hard case that holds rod w/mounted reel only $199 (with lifetime guarantee). My regular rod is a Sage, but I liked the Redington a lot. Try one! Kent Edmonds Flyfishing West Georgia & Beyond http://kje.home.mindspring.com
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look at st croix. their imperial line has nice 4 pc rods for about $130. I’ve got a 4/5 which i like a lot, though it casts better as a 5 than a four. I’ve never had any problem taking it on planes either. gc – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these? Fsihed a demo Redington Red Start 5/6 wgt yesterday – a great rod for the $$$. Rod, reel, line, backing & leader, plus jazzy hard case that holds rod w/mounted reel only $199 (with lifetime guarantee). My regular rod is a Sage, but I liked the Redington a lot. Try one! Kent Edmonds Flyfishing West Georgia & Beyond http://kje.home.mindspring.com
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I own a Cortland and LOVE it . I have compared it to a Reddington and there is no comparison for the money,the Reddington is a cheap looking rod with the guides just tacked on , the cork looks bad , no winding check and so on . KW – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these? Fsihed a demo Redington Red Start 5/6 wgt yesterday – a great rod for the $$$. Rod, reel, line, backing & leader, plus jazzy hard case that holds rod w/mounted reel only $199 (with lifetime guarantee). My regular rod is a Sage, but I liked the Redington a lot. Try one! Kent Edmonds Flyfishing West Georgia & Beyond http://kje.home.mindspring.com
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I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these?
I recently was given a Redington 5wt 9′ and it is truly a great rod to work with light action and amazing to use.. it is like a divining rod in your hands learn to use it properly and you cannot go wrong plus the lifetime guarantee is another great part of the bargain, Pierre
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look at st croix. their imperial line has nice 4 pc rods for about $130. I’ve got a 4/5 which i like a lot, though it casts better as a 5 than a four. I’ve never had any problem taking it on planes either.
I recently looked at both the Redington RedStart and the St. Croix Imperial in a 5/6 weight at the local fly shop. Went in with St. Croix as my intended choice because my current rod is a St. Croix Pro Graphite (operating on the principle of "My mind is made up – stop confusing me with facts"
. The guy in the shop encouraged me to cast both of ‘em using the same line & reel. Wound up getting the Redington. I found the Imperial was softer than I’m comfortable with, or conversely that I just liked the feel of the RedStart better. I recommend that you cast at least a couple different rods before you make your choice. Even if the rod you find you like best costs 20 bucks more, well…20 bucks isn’t much to pay to be happy, and it’s not much to have in your pocket if you’re not happy. Your mileage may vary. — Bob Jarvis Mail address hacked to foil spammers!
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Hi All, There is a lot of low elevation action right now in Nor Cal. We have the striper spawning run that is below and above my town of Sacramento now. April/May/ June is prime time so go for it. There are small spring run steelhead and trout in all the valley rivers/streams and they are feeding on salmon fry and insects. The black bass are really taking off now especially on the sunny days. The shad run is getting close with May/June being the prime months for wading. They will be boat fishing for them very soon. Many low elevation lakes are seeing the end of the winter trout before they go deep and the bass are coming to the banks with the warm weather. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com
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Trip Report of Sorts We got majorly lost driving back to anaheim from universal studios…last week. We missed the turnoff from 10 to 5 and didn’t notice it until we hit highway 15, Ontario, etc. and I told the driver….uh…."what road are we on…?". Ugly American Tourists on their day off. Your pal, — TBone The Halfordian Golfer
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, There is a lot of low elevation action right now in Nor Cal. We have the striper spawning run that is below and above my town of Sacramento now. April/May/ June is prime time so go for it. There are small spring run steelhead and trout in all the valley rivers/streams and they are feeding on salmon fry and insects. The black bass are really taking off now especially on the sunny days. The shad run is getting close with May/June being the prime months for wading. They will be boat fishing for them very soon. Many low elevation lakes are seeing the end of the winter trout before they go deep and the bass are coming to the banks with the warm weather. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com
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Trip Report of Sorts We got majorly lost driving back to anaheim from universal studios…last week. We missed the turnoff from 10 to 5 and didn’t notice it until we hit highway 15, Ontario, etc. and I told the driver….uh…."what road are we on…?". Ugly American Tourists on their day off. Your pal,
Shit, if you didn’t notice until you got to Ontario – you were REALLY lost. :) Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://home.cogeco.ca/~pcharles/streamers/index.html
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Okay Bill, you convinced me. I will leave these 30 lb stripers in the Chesapeake and the shad run and head to California. Thanks for the tips by the way. I talked to my buddy and he is bringing his raft and rowing frame. We will get a guide (hopefully) on the Lower Sac for Saturday and then raft it on Sunday and Monday. By the way, with my history, you might want to call the volunteer fire departments for the areas downstream from Redding and alert them to my presence. They might want to stock up on grappling hooks. Anyone else with a video camera is free to film from a safe distance. Again, I thank you and my widow thanks you. — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply.
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Shit, if you didn’t notice until you got to Ontario – you were REALLY lost. :) Peter
Hey, I grew up 10 miles from Ontario, does that mean I can claim dual citizenship? — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply.
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Shit, if you didn’t notice until you got to Ontario – you were REALLY lost. :) Peter Hey, I grew up 10 miles from Ontario, does that mean I can claim dual citizenship?
Frank, we’d be proud to call you one of ours. Hell, you’d fit right in. (Not sure if that’s a good thing, though?) Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://home.cogeco.ca/~pcharles/streamers/index.html
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(excuse if this is a duplicate, but my server is a bit wanky) Okay Bill, you convinced me. I will leave these 30 lb stripers in the Chesapeake and the shad run and head to California. Thanks for the tips by the way. I talked to my buddy and he is bringing his raft and rowing frame. We will get a guide (hopefully) on the Lower Sac for Saturday and then raft it on Sunday and Monday. By the way, with my history, you might want to call the volunteer fire departments for the areas downstream from Redding and alert them to my presence. They might want to stock up on grappling hooks. Anyone else with a video camera is free to film from a safe distance. Again, I thank you and my widow thanks you. — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply.
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We got majorly lost driving back to anaheim from universal studios…last week. We missed the turnoff from 10 to 5 and didn’t notice it until we hit highway 15, Ontario, etc. and I told the driver….uh…."what road are we on…?".
Yeah, the 4-level. Depending on which way you hit that interchange where the 10, 101, 5, 110 all seem to merge, you might have to cross 4 lanes of highway in 1/8 mile to reach your desired destination. Mu
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I’m planning a vacation for the end of July, and was considering the Shasta region of Northern Cal. To fish the McCloud, Trinity,etc. What I’ve read however seems to promote an awful lot of private water, and I’m not going to be able to afford guided trips. Can anyone clue me in as to public access out there, and what to expect? If I’m going to be frustrated by access, I’d rather go to Montana/Idaho/Wyoming as I usually do. Thanks in advance. Ray P
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Yes by all means go to Montana/Idaho/Wyoming we don’t have any guides and the water is all private.
— Ernie Harrison Remove NOSPAM to send E-mail – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m planning a vacation for the end of July, and was considering the Shasta region of Northern Cal. To fish the McCloud, Trinity,etc. What I’ve read however seems to promote an awful lot of private water, and I’m not going to be able to afford guided trips. Can anyone clue me in as to public access out there, and what to expect? If I’m going to be frustrated by access, I’d rather go to Montana/Idaho/Wyoming as I usually do. Thanks in advance. Ray P
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(Rapalm) writes: I’m planning a vacation for the end of July, and was considering the Shasta region of Northern Cal. To fish the McCloud, Trinity,etc. What I’ve read however seems to promote an awful lot of private water, and I’m not going to beable to afford guided trips. Can anyone clue me in as to public access out there, and what to expect? If I’m going to be frustrated by access, I’d rather go to Montana/Idaho/Wyoming as I usually do. Thanks in advance. Ray P
Hi Ray, There’s huge amounts of public water on the McCloud, Upper Sac, Trinity, Hat Creek, Pit River, Upper Klamath River, etc. The McCloud has about a 3 mile section that is owned and operated by the Nature Conservancy and they limit access to a max of 10 rods at any one time. All of the area from the McCloud Reservoir (lake) down to this is public access and great water. Lots of public access above the reservoir too, but mostly stocked because it is open to bait fishing. The Upper Sac has ~ 40 miles of public access. Virtually all of the Trinity, Hat Creek, Pit River and Upper Klamath are open to public access. The Fall River is totally surrounded by private land but there is public access provided by CalTrout by Island Bridge. You do need a pram or other small boat to fish it, ther is no bank access. The Fall and the section of Hat Creek below the influx of the Rising River are both big spring creeks. The others are freestone streams. Scenery is much different than Montana – much greener. Exception would be the Fall River which is best characterised as a large meadow stream that barely moves. Best to call before you come to see what conditions are on the different rivers. I can tell you what the current conditions are on the McCloud and Upper Sac because I guide on those rivers. Although I’ve guided in the past on the Fall and on Hat Creek, I’m not sure I’ll do so this year. The Fly Shop in Redding is usually a good source for info on most of the N. CA rivers. The Trinity Fly Shop will have current info on the Trinity. With all the snow and rain we’ve had this year, I’d expect July to be good in N CA. Good Fishing, Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools
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crayfish flies
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Looking for a few good crayfish fly patterns.
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Looking for a few good crayfish fly patterns.
Leasa: Look for the Bob Clouser pattern, which works well for me – at least in Pennsylvania waters. Sorry I don’t have a reference or description, but you could call his shop near Middletown, Pa. (outside of Harrisburg) and I’m sure he would provide a description and materials. Mark Faulkner
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Looking for a few good crayfish fly patterns.
I saw one last night in Kaufman’s "Fly Tyers Nymph Manual". It’s a pattern by Dave Whitlock. -Burton
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Bob has Clouser Crayfish kits put together that have everything you need to tie them….directions, materials, hooks, and even a sample fly. If you don’t tie he will mail order them. Clouser’s Fly Shop 101 Ulrich St. Middletown, PA 17057 Ph (717)944-6451
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Hi Leasa- Ya wanna catch fish or fishermen? Lots of realistic crayfish patterns out there, none work better than a wooly bugger; most don’t work as well. -Ralph
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Try a LARGE Wooly Bugger in a bronze/brown with some copper Krystal Flash in the tail and some orange in the wing. Personally, I’ve tied and fished "imitative" Crayfish patterns with good luck in low light on REAL warm days (overcast) but they don’t seem to catch very much better. Yes, they are tied "reverse" with the tail at the eye, and you weight the "front" of the fly, where the claws are so when you retrieve it, you raise the rod tip, strip line and allow it to fall sort of naturally. Larry #:)#
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"Leasa S. Tucker" writes: Looking for a few good crayfish fly patterns.
Clouser’s crawdad has been my best underwater fly from Mar to Oct for the last 3 yrs. I get them from Murray’s Fly Shop in Edinburg,VA. Working em close to a stump in fast water will pull out some beautiful fish…good luck-Joe
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The best crayfish patern I have ever seen is the Pheasant Tailed Crayfish. It was modified in 1988 by Bob Morenski and reworked. You can get the pattern from Mark Olinger, of Daktoa Flies or if you dont tie he can crank some. Deadly on Big Browns and Smallmouth Bass. You can find Mark’s address and stuff off the Lake Fly Fishing Pages. htttp://www.articfire.com/arcfire/fishing.htm. This is one fly pattern that works! — Bob Sheedy Angling Adventures North Lake Fly Fishing On-Line Magazine Home of MASTER ANGLER Fishing Software http://www.articfire.com/arcfire/fishing.htm
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Looking for a few good crayfish fly patterns. Try a LARGE Wooly Bugger in a bronze/brown with some copper Krystal Flash in the tail and some orange in the wing.
I’m not sure at what point you start splitting hairs, but crayfish can vary widely in terms of color, and if they are a bright red, or tan, or green, or even have a bluish-black cast to them, a brown crayfish imitation probably wouldn’t have a great result. It’s just like fishing with dries, sometimes they’ll hit an Adams with abandon, other times your gray-olive flies are ignored in favor of the olive-gray numbers…<g Tight lines, TC Tom Chandler "When in doubt, have two guys come through the door with guns." –Raymond Chandler
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A General Practioner, a common Northwest steelhead fly is a good crayfish immitation, as is the wooly bugger. The key is getting down on the bottom and giving the appropriate short quick strips and pauses. I think the larger trouts’ interest and line-snapping voraciousness for these things is in relation to their shell hardness. Biologists please correct me but I have read that crawfish molt and are soft-shelled and delicious during full moons. Hold onto that rod when you do this. Mark VInsel — http://www.lanminds.com/local/vinnie/gallery.html
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My step-dad and I are going to Weaverville on Saturday for some steelhead fishing. Any advice from recent visitors? Lures, places, approaches? Thanks in advance. Dave in Anderson, CA
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This is probably late advice, but I’d stay home. The river is muddy and fishing is slow. Instead of the Trinity, I’d go over to Lewiston Lake and flyfish that area. Or…take a drive over to the Smith River as it’s still clear enough to fish and, I understand, that the salmon and steelhead are being cooperative. Four good updated info on the Trinity, I’d call the Eureka Fly Shop at 444-2000 or the Redding Fly Shop (I don’t have their number). Barry Brown – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My step-dad and I are going to Weaverville on Saturday for some steelhead fishing. Any advice from recent visitors? Lures, places, approaches? Thanks in advance. Dave in Anderson, CA
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