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No need to apologize, although it is appreciated. If some one had insulted one of my friends I would also rush to his defense. I was a bit surprised at the hornets nest my posts opened but I also knew there were abler minds than mine out there that would get things sorted out. My main regret is that the misunderstanding took attention away from the thrust of the original thread. I tried reading Adams last night at work but it was just too sad. I hope I can regain the sense of delight reading his stuff has always given me. Thanks, G.Cleveland p.s. I dont know why my email address bounced Warrens message back. always worked before. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I fear you are comparing the headers from two of Mr.Cleveland

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Do you get paid for the number of post you make?

Shit, if this were a payin’ gig, then Wolfgang would be posting from a beach cabana on Moorea, with a topless Polynesian babe taking dictation on one hand and another topping up his drink on the other. Kevin, filling out my application for the executive assistant position.

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Do you get paid for the number of post you make? Shit, if this were a payin’ gig, then Wolfgang would be posting from a beach cabana on Moorea, with a topless Polynesian babe taking dictation on one hand and another topping up his drink on the other.

Not much interested in the Pacific islands.  If this were a paying gig I would donate the proceeds to the Help Jeff Find a Poor Person Foundation. Wolfgang no charge for this one

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Do you get paid for the number of post you make? — Op "Look, strange women lying around in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.  Supreme executive power is derived from a mandate from the masses, not from some  farcical aquatic ceremony.  I mean, if I went around saying I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me away. -Dennis the (Bloody) peasant-

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There are LOTS of reports and info on the Salmon River here: http://www.FishUSA.com/FishSalmonRiver/ Weeks of planning, rod building, fly tying, and preparations came to fruition on Thursday evening as Craig rolled up my driveway for a quick dinner. We’d been trying to stretch this weekend trip into three days, and this year SWMBO had conceded a Thursday night departure to allow us a full day of fishing on Friday. All systems were "go".   I was a bit apprehensive about the 6-hour, high-speed drive in Craig’s Ford Explorer with Firestone Wilderness AT tires; but throwing caution to the wind, we headed for the interstate.   By 1 a.m., we’d made N. Syracuse and found a cheap motel for a few hours of shuteye after taste testing a couple fine bourbons and draining a Sleemans or two.   So far, so good. Thanks to two travel alarms and a beeping wristwatch, we headed north before dawn and made Altmar, NY around 7:30.   Dave (ND#1) was to be just upstream from the Altmar bridge (same spot as his ROFF Faces photo), and after rigging the rods & suiting up, I walked out on the bridge to look for him.   Lots of fishermen, but I couldn’t make out anyone with a "roff on the Rapid" hat. In the river below, however, I could make out a few nice salmon holding in the pool above the bridge.   I’ll look for Dave later. Craig & I fished the pool for about a half hour with no luck.   My casting elbow was sore, and I took a break to walk upstream and checked for Dave again. Still no Dave; and I walked back down to the bridge.   I shouted downstream to Craig that I didn’t see anyone with a matching hat when someone says, "excuse me?" from across the river. It’s Dave.   We exchange greetings and introductions across the water; but not until we break for lunch do we get to shake hands and say hello.   After coaxing a few leftover chili dogs out of the lunch shack women, we sat and chatted a while in the 70 degree sunshine along the Salmon River.   It’s a beautiful day. Dave gives me a hint ("Wait ’til you get home") but is unspecific about some roff goings-on I’ve missed the evening before.   I have a pretty good idea about who’s at the center of it. After lunch, Dave takes me upstream to one of his "good spots".   The river joining from the left tumbles over a wide, rocky shallow into a fast rapid on the main stem.   At the confluence, a long narrow seam of slow water runs along the mouth.   Salmon heading upriver move through and hold in this area, and you can stand in the riffles above and watch them.   Dave’s using a sink tip, and he can skillfully place his orange comet right in their faces.   He gets a lot of hookups and lands a couple before I manage to get into the action myself. We’ re standing so close to the fish, I actually have to stand back from the flow and keep only about 18 inches of line past my tip top.   I’m using a floating line with a couple bb’s, and I have trouble getting down to the fish before the current sweeps my fly past. Eventually I figured out the right combination of location and drift, and I got a good hookup on an orange egg pattern.   After a relatively short and (thankfully) local fight, the salmon ended up in a snapshot before resuming its thoughts of reproduction.   In the last hour before sunset, the action got hot, and Dave and I had at least one double header going.   It would have made a nice roff picture, but with both of us leaning on bent-over rods, we couldn’t enlist another photographer before we lost the fish. Sundown and darkness came too soon, and we had to call it a day.   At Dave’s car, there was just enough light for me to check out his self-made cane rod. Damned nice.   I was sorry it was too dark to try it out.   Day one of the trip ended with us saying goodbye and hoping to meet again in the future. Day two…. Joe F.

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There are LOTS of reports and info on the Salmon River here: http://www.FishUSA.com/FishSalmonRiver/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Weeks of planning, rod building, fly tying, and preparations came to fruition on Thursday evening as Craig rolled up my driveway for a quick dinner.   We’d been trying to stretch this weekend trip into three days, and this year SWMBO had conceded a Thursday night departure to allow us a full day of fishing on Friday. All systems were "go".   I was a bit apprehensive about the 6-hour, high-speed drive in Craig’s Ford Explorer with Firestone Wilderness AT tires; but throwing caution to the wind, we headed for the interstate.   By 1 a.m., we’d made N. Syracuse and found a cheap motel for a few hours of shuteye after taste testing a couple fine bourbons and draining a Sleemans or two.   So far, so good. Thanks to two travel alarms and a beeping wristwatch, we headed north before dawn and made Altmar, NY around 7:30.   Dave (ND#1) was to be just upstream from the Altmar bridge (same spot as his ROFF Faces photo), and after rigging the rods & suiting up, I walked out on the bridge to look for him.   Lots of fishermen, but I couldn’t make out anyone with a "roff on the Rapid" hat.   In the river below, however, I could make out a few nice salmon holding in the pool above the bridge.   I’ll look for Dave later. Craig & I fished the pool for about a half hour with no luck.   My casting elbow was sore, and I took a break to walk upstream and checked for Dave again. Still no Dave; and I walked back down to the bridge.   I shouted downstream to Craig that I didn’t see anyone with a matching hat when someone says, "excuse me?" from across the river. It’s Dave.   We exchange greetings and introductions across the water; but not until we break for lunch do we get to shake hands and say hello.   After coaxing a few leftover chili dogs out of the lunch shack women, we sat and chatted a while in the 70 degree sunshine along the Salmon River.   It’s a beautiful day. Dave gives me a hint ("Wait ’til you get home") but is unspecific about some roff goings-on I’ve missed the evening before.   I have a pretty good idea about who’s at the center of it. After lunch, Dave takes me upstream to one of his "good spots".   The river joining from the left tumbles over a wide, rocky shallow into a fast rapid on the main stem.   At the confluence, a long narrow seam of slow water runs along the mouth.   Salmon heading upriver move through and hold in this area, and you can stand in the riffles above and watch them.   Dave’s using a sink tip, and he can skillfully place his orange comet right in their faces.   He gets a lot of hookups and lands a couple before I manage to get into the action myself.   We’ re standing so close to the fish, I actually have to stand back from the flow and keep only about 18 inches of line past my tip top.   I’m using a floating line with a couple bb’s, and I have trouble getting down to the fish before the current sweeps my fly past. Eventually I figured out the right combination of location and drift, and I got a good hookup on an orange egg pattern.   After a relatively short and (thankfully) local fight, the salmon ended up in a snapshot before resuming its thoughts of reproduction.   In the last hour before sunset, the action got hot, and Dave and I had at least one double header going.   It would have made a nice roff picture, but with both of us leaning on bent-over rods, we couldn’t enlist another photographer before we lost the fish. Sundown and darkness came too soon, and we had to call it a day.   At Dave’s car, there was just enough light for me to check out his self-made cane rod. Damned nice.   I was sorry it was too dark to try it out.   Day one of the trip ended with us saying goodbye and hoping to meet again in the future. Day two…. Joe F.

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I’d promised odd & interesting, but left one oddity out of my day 1 report. Tail hooking the sucker was odd enough, but I demonstrated another example of amazing fly fishing skill on this day.   I caught a rock. I know what you’re thinking, everybody catches rocks all the time.   True enough; but I actually managed to lasso a two-pound rock, reel it in, and land it with a fly rod.   On drifting my fly though a pool, I was able to masterfully swing the fly around the rock and hook it on the tippet in a perfect loop around the center of the rock.   Dave P. was kind enough to document this (actually, I couldn’t stop him) in one of his pics on ABPF. Joe F.

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I hear they tast like chicken

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’d promised odd & interesting, but left one oddity out of my day 1 report. Tail hooking the sucker was odd enough, but I demonstrated another example of amazing fly fishing skill on this day.   I caught a rock. I know what you’re thinking, everybody catches rocks all the time.   True enough; but I actually managed to lasso a two-pound rock, reel it in, and land it with a fly rod.   On drifting my fly though a pool, I was able to masterfully swing the fly around the rock and hook it on the tippet in a perfect loop around the center of the rock.   Dave P. was kind enough to document this (actually, I couldn’t stop him) in one of his pics on ABPF. Joe F.

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Weeks of planning, rod building, fly tying, and preparations came to fruition on Thursday evening as Craig rolled up my driveway for a quick dinner.   We’d been trying to stretch this weekend trip into three days, and this year SWMBO had conceded a Thursday night departure to allow us a full day of fishing on Friday. All systems were "go".   I was a bit apprehensive about the 6-hour, high-speed drive in Craig’s Ford Explorer with Firestone Wilderness AT tires; but throwing caution to the wind, we headed for the interstate.   By 1 a.m., we’d made N. Syracuse and found a cheap motel for a few hours of shuteye after taste testing a couple fine bourbons and draining a Sleemans or two.   So far, so good. Thanks to two travel alarms and a beeping wristwatch, we headed north before dawn and made Altmar, NY around 7:30.   Dave (ND#1) was to be just upstream from the Altmar bridge (same spot as his ROFF Faces photo), and after rigging the rods & suiting up, I walked out on the bridge to look for him.   Lots of fishermen, but I couldn’t make out anyone with a "roff on the Rapid" hat.   In the river below, however, I could make out a few nice salmon holding in the pool above the bridge.   I’ll look for Dave later. Craig & I fished the pool for about a half hour with no luck.   My casting elbow was sore, and I took a break to walk upstream and checked for Dave again. Still no Dave; and I walked back down to the bridge.   I shouted downstream to Craig that I didn’t see anyone with a matching hat when someone says, "excuse me?" from across the river. It’s Dave.   We exchange greetings and introductions across the water; but not until we break for lunch do we get to shake hands and say hello.   After coaxing a few leftover chili dogs out of the lunch shack women, we sat and chatted a while in the 70 degree sunshine along the Salmon River.   It’s a beautiful day. Dave gives me a hint ("Wait ’til you get home") but is unspecific about some roff goings-on I’ve missed the evening before.   I have a pretty good idea about who’s at the center of it. After lunch, Dave takes me upstream to one of his "good spots".   The river joining from the left tumbles over a wide, rocky shallow into a fast rapid on the main stem.   At the confluence, a long narrow seam of slow water runs along the mouth.   Salmon heading upriver move through and hold in this area, and you can stand in the riffles above and watch them.   Dave’s using a sink tip, and he can skillfully place his orange comet right in their faces.   He gets a lot of hookups and lands a couple before I manage to get into the action myself.   We’ re standing so close to the fish, I actually have to stand back from the flow and keep only about 18 inches of line past my tip top.   I’m using a floating line with a couple bb’s, and I have trouble getting down to the fish before the current sweeps my fly past. Eventually I figured out the right combination of location and drift, and I got a good hookup on an orange egg pattern.   After a relatively short and (thankfully) local fight, the salmon ended up in a snapshot before resuming its thoughts of reproduction.   In the last hour before sunset, the action got hot, and Dave and I had at least one double header going.   It would have made a nice roff picture, but with both of us leaning on bent-over rods, we couldn’t enlist another photographer before we lost the fish. Sundown and darkness came too soon, and we had to call it a day.   At Dave’s car, there was just enough light for me to check out his self-made cane rod. Damned nice.   I was sorry it was too dark to try it out.   Day one of the trip ended with us saying goodbye and hoping to meet again in the future. Day two…. Joe F.

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Hello, Does anyone know good flyfishing classes offered around pacific NW (in September)?  I live in Seattle area and am new to flyfishing.  In fact I’ve never flyfished before but been curious about it for a while now.  I have couple of buddies who are also interested in flyfishing so we thought taking a class would be great way to get into the sport of flyfishing. Obviously we don’t have any equipments so we are looking for classes that rent necessary equipments. I am looking for weekend class (1-3 days). We don’t mind traveling as far as BC area (in fact we prefer that class is held away from Seattle proper so we can make this a road trip!) Any info, pointers, and suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, KC

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Did you try fly shops?  Most of them either have lessons or know who does.  

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There are several fly shops in the area that will either have classes you can take or will simply take you out to the parking lot and show you how to cast. In Bellevue try:     Kaufmanns Streamborn (By K-Mart) http://www.kman.com     Orvis (NE 10th and Bellevie Way) In Woodinville try Swedes In Seattle try:     Kaufmanns Downtown store     Patricks Flyshop     Outdoor Emporium     Avid Angler http://www.AvidAngler.com I often go to many of these shops and every one of them have very helpful poeple who should be able to get you started. You might also try getting in touch with the Overlake Fly Fishing Club (http://www.offc.superhighway.net) or the Washington Fly Fishing Club to see if their members would be willing to help. I’m fairly certain you will get help at either one. Disclaimer, I have no affiliation with any of the above but merely enjoy each for their own pluses and minuses. Gary Johnson – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, Does anyone know good flyfishing classes offered around pacific NW (in September)?  I live in Seattle area and am new to flyfishing.  In fact I’ve never flyfished before but been curious about it for a while now.  I have couple of buddies who are also interested in flyfishing so we thought taking a class would be great way to get into the sport of flyfishing. Obviously we don’t have any equipments so we are looking for classes that rent necessary equipments. I am looking for weekend class (1-3 days). We don’t mind traveling as far as BC area (in fact we prefer that class is held away from Seattle proper so we can make this a road trip!) Any info, pointers, and suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, KC

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Don Hill  (which I have a 16′ drift boat and like) http://www.dhdriftboats.com/ Greg Tatman (which my best fishing buddy has a 16′ and works great) http://www.gregboats.com/index2.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Im looking for website’s and any other information on the purchase of an 8 foot Pram for Flyfishing. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. Tight Lines, Ernest V

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There is a company called Spring Creek on Bainbridge Island who sells an 8′ pram which is the best I’ve seen.  49" beam 16" freeboard, fiberglass, 65#. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Im looking for website’s and any other information on the purchase of an 8 foot Pram for Flyfishing. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. Tight Lines, Ernest V

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Im looking for website’s and any other information on the purchase of an 8 foot Pram for Flyfishing. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. Tight Lines, Ernest V

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I am taking a rafting trip on july 2nd and hope the water isn’t too high to enjoy all the good tips I have recieved! Does anybody know what dry’s are coming off this time of year? –rv

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I am taking a rafting trip on july 2nd and hope the water isn’t too high to enjoy all the good tips I have recieved! Does anybody know what dry’s are coming off this time of year? –rv

  I can’t answer specifically, but #8 and 10 elk hair caddis and #10 and 12 Royal Wulffs worked well for us in mid-August several years ago.  I would have liked to have had some large grasshoppers as well.  The biggest problems were keeping flies afloat and keeping them in sight.  The cutthroat wern’t very choosy.   I just put up a web note that I wrote some time ago describing our trip in 1990 that you might find useful.  It’s linked from http://www.phy.duke.edu/~fortney/tours/tours.html#fishing — Lloyd R. Fortney ….. http://www.phy.duke.edu/~fortney physics, research, teaching, photography, flower gardening, travel, and fly fishing

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: What are the pros and cons of the expensive fly lines vs. the lower end : lines.  For example the Cortland 444 lazer vs the 333 lines.  Thanks   There are differences when you compare these two lines. The Cortland 444 is the industry standard fly line. It is offered in many more types and configurations than the 333. The 333 is the predecessor to the 444. The 444 is more supple, longer lasting, and slick than the 333. It also comes with a one year warrenty against failure. My experience with Cortland is that any 444 line returned will be replaced for free. This happened one year at the shop where we had many customers come back with defective lines. We had instructions from Cortland to take back all lines at that time. Their testing showed that they had a bad batch!   There is also a higher performance level with the more expensive lines. I find that they float higher and are easier to cast. The best line Cortland currently has is the 444 LazerLine. It has a textered finish. This line is the most supple, easiest mending, and farthest shooting line of any "general purpose" trout line I have used. Both 333 and 444 are good lines Jon Porter

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What are the pros and cons of the expensive fly lines vs. the lower end lines.  For example the Cortland 444 lazer vs the 333 lines.  Thanks

In my opinion there aren’t many differences between lines that make a huge difference.  Higher priced lines are usually made from better materials(tougher, stronger, self lubricating, Uv resistant, etc.) but the taper really isn’t a measure of "quality".  It all depends on your casting style and requirements.  Some line may better match your technique and give better results (i.e. some people may perfere the same line in double taper vs. weight forward or vice versa).  Your fishing requirements (if they are very specific)  may demand that you must spend the extra money for a higher   end line but that is sometimes the nature of the beast!  Good luck,                         Joshua Haddock

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Is it me, or is the FlyFishing Database and FAQ home page totally broken.  Everytime I follow a link it gives me a page with a return link and no content. The location I’m accessing is: http://www.geo.mtu.edu/~jsuchosk/fish/ff-faq/masterIndex.html kat.

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Is it me, or is the FlyFishing Database and FAQ home page totally broken.  Everytime I follow a link it gives me a page with a return link and no content. The location I’m accessing is: http://www.geo.mtu.edu/~jsuchosk/fish/ff-faq/masterIndex.html kat.

It’s not you.  Either it’s broken, or it’s us.  I got the same response you did. Jim Browder Kalispell, MT

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I’ll have a chance to do some fly fishing around Bushkill Falls, PA and on the Delaware River between Port Jervis and Barryville, NY. late May. Any suggestions on what to bring for gear and flies? Where are the public access points? What kind of trout will there be? Is it worth even going to these places? Thanks, Bob

Both rivers are definately worth visiting, but they are quite different.   The Big Bushkill is a relatively small stream that contains primarily stocked trout.  A good access point is the Boy Scout camp near the falls.  Bring a variety of early season mayflies, though the Hendricksons will probably be done.  Try Blue Quills, sulphurs, etc. The Delaware, on the other hand, is a very large river with a good wild trout population.  The area below Port Jervis offers trout and bass, depending on the water temps.  You may also catch the shad run.  For a hatch chart, call Al Caucci at (717) 629-2962.

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Are you part of the group from N.C, friends of Kevin McLane from WestGrove?  If so I’m looking forward to getting together again.  We are going to visit the Pine creek and past of Potter Co. as well.

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Last year on the Big Bushkill  (2d week in May)  one evening I was standing in a pool with about 5 other anglers fishing to trout rising all around us.  I tyed on a cream colored # 24 dry and was cathin the hell out of them when noone else was landing a thing.  May have been a fluke, but you can bet I’ll be well stocked with 24’s this May.

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I’ll have a chance to do some fly fishing around Bushkill Falls, PA and on the Delaware River between Port Jervis and Barryville, NY. late May. Any suggestions on what to bring for gear and flies? Where are the public access points? What kind of trout will there be? Is it worth even going to these places? Thanks, Bob

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for some interesting photos and stories check us out at: http://peacock.com/skindiver we accept your interesting photos too!  just attach them to an email with a description…… should we start a flyfishing section? — Everett Peacock peacock.com corporation http://peacock.com

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for some interesting photos and stories check us out at: http://peacock.com/skindiver we accept your interesting photos too!  just attach them to an email with a description…… should we start a flyfishing section? — Everett Peacock peacock.com corporation http://peacock.com

Everett, Should you start a fly fishing section? If there’s fly fishing to be done, then by all means, start a section.

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: Recently I have begun to do some offshore racing outside the San Francisco Bay  and I now need to buy my own offshore harness.  I’ve been advised that a : a self-inflating harness is the best way to go. : However, I work the foredeck. : Some people say that you really have to submerge these harnesses for them : to inflate, others say that they’ve had them inflate when they are piled : in with other wet gear for a period of time. I’ve used the belt inflated life jacket for about 3 years now.  Normal maintanence requires that you inflate them once a year at least.  If you do that the unit will not inflate until it is under water for a time. If you don’t inflate it regularly it may more may not inflate when you need it.  The CO2 cartrage will discharge over time so you want to replace it yearly to be on the safe side.  If you inflat it put it under water to check for leaks.  A unit that isn’t repack once in a while will be more likely to be holed. I’d say get you’re own equipment.  Also look at the line that connects the harness to the boat.  You may want different lengths for different boats. I’m currently running my jack line from the cochpit around the babystay and back.  This way I can walk around the mast and back if I don’t like the seas on the low side etc.  As this line floats up I can run a very short line.  If I have crew up there on the foredeck helping I need more line. I find line length effects productivity up there.  A short line that is long enough to do the job doesn’t get tangled, stepped on or removed because it’s in the way.  You can make a long line short by splicing your own end and feeding a bunge cord through it. For fore deck work I would recomend getting very creative with this jack line.  If you don’t you will find yourself up there removing it to untangle yourself etc. As for the clip for a jack line they put some pretty user unfreindly line connectors on some of the harness.  I’m devided as they must have a reason but I end up using carbeners because they are easy to work with going in and out of the cabin.  Basicly if I don’t have to think about it I find I connect myself.  If I have to fiddle with it I catch myself unconnected. Another thing to look at on a harness is storage.  I know this sounds strange but the ‘right’ place to put a wistle and a water prouf flash light is on the harness.  It’s been measured that you can blow a wistle in cold water when you can’t yell to flag another boat down. I have the personel strobes but the helogen flash lights (small ones using the AA batteries) can be pointed right at the boat you’re trying to flag down.  These little guys are bright and last a good long time. I also have more faith in a light I’m using often to one that is stored and never used but to test.  Tests don’t give you a feel for the battery life etc. As a fordeck person I hope you know never to go up there without a good sharp knife.  This could save your life someday if you ever get wrapped. I started doing this years ago never needed it but if it’s blowing hard you may not be able to communicate you’re arm being broken to the guy behind you. — AST Research Inc.          (714) 727-8669

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In practice it’s actually very rare for foredeck crew to be "hooked in" while working the foredeck of a competitive race boat. They hook in while sitting on the rail or trimming, but being tethered during a jibe or sail change would be problematic. *Some* crew hook in during these maneuvers at night, but this is rare, in my experience. Even singlehanded, it took practice to learn how to jibe the spinnaker while hooked in. For a full crew to jibe an ocean racer with all their tethers attached would be chaos.   Your first defense against being lost overboard (after holding on tight, that is) is a good life jacket and a personal strobe and whistle. Maybe a backup waterproof flashlight, too. I’m very strict about wearing this equipment offshore. The harness, in the vast majority of weather conditions you’ll encounter off the coast, is going to be far too encumbering to allow you to race the boat effectively. I have an old North vest which I love because it has nice deep pockets for the strobe and other stuff (and it served well when I survived a sinking, the Bird boat FALCON in 1989 Master Mariners, in the middle of SF Bay). If I were shopping for a new lifejacket I’d probably favor one of the Stearns fishing models, because of the multiple pockets, and the high degree of freedom of motion they offer. Having said that, you still need a harness for the times that the weather is *really* bad, and especially for the long time intervals between maneuvers when there’s no efficiency lost by being hooked on. So my preference is for a single-purpose shoulder harness, of a fairly simple design that can be sorted out and put on in the dark while you hold on with the other hand. It’s important that the tether have good, oversized (expensive) shackles at *both* ends, so if you find yourself tangled in something you can re-lead from your end. Also consider using some nylon rope instead of the webbing for the tether. A cleat hitch around the nearest cleat is generally more reliable than a carbiner through a pad eye, and you can adjust the length of the teather to be no longer than what you really need. BTW I don’t think much of caribiners for this application, because they have to be closed to develop full strength. (my tether has a very large torsion-spring gate-type snap hook on the far end, and an equally oversize "fly-away" type spinnaker sheet shackle (about what you’d find on a 40′ boat) at my end.                                              -"Call me Fishmeal"-

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Some people say that you really have to submerge these harnesses for them to inflate, others say that they’ve had them inflate when they are piled in with other wet gear for a period of time.

My experience is that on a long wet trip e.g. sailing from Hawaii back to California, the self-inflating life jackets always trigger. My suboptimal solution has been to remove the self inflating cap, spring, and tablet, but leave the CO2 cartridge and the manual trigger pull tab. Stan Honey San Francisco

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|   | Some people say that you really have to submerge these harnesses for them | to inflate, others say that they’ve had them inflate when they are piled | in with other wet gear for a period of time. |   | My experience is that on a long wet trip e.g. sailing from Hawaii | back to California, the self-inflating life jackets always trigger. | My suboptimal solution has been to remove the self inflating cap, | spring, and tablet, but leave the CO2 cartridge and the manual trigger | pull tab. On the other hand, my experience with a Crewsaver, Crewfit lifejacket is that it has never inflated when I haven’t wanted it to, and has inflated when needed.  I have been out in conditions when I would have expected it to trigger and it hasn’t. I suspect that the tendency to trigger "accidently" depends on the particular lifejacket.  The self inflating capsule on the Crewsaver is well protected by the folded lifejacket and this may not be the case in other designs. Marion Edwards

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Recently I have begun to do some offshore racing outside the San Francisco Bay  and I now need to buy my own offshore harness.  I’ve been advised that a a self-inflating harness is the best way to go. However, I work the foredeck. Some people say that you really have to submerge these harnesses for them to inflate, others say that they’ve had them inflate when they are piled in with other wet gear for a period of time. I would appreciate anyone else’s feedback and experience on this before I spend some money. Thanks for the help, Allison Serventi

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