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….Wolfgang, do you fish? Been thinking about trying it.  Care to recommend a good pole? Wolfgang  South! S.

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I’ve heard the Cabela’s Three Forks is a good stick… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ….Wolfgang, do you fish? Been thinking about trying it.  Care to recommend a good pole? Wolfgang

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Why not avoid the riffraff and start a private group? rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.grumpy.old.men It’s astonishing how the denizens of this group expect newcomers to take a ration and yet are so offended at the slightest ribbing. I think you take yourselfs a little too seriously. Except for Wolfgang, but I bet he’s not so glib when he’s low on meds. Believe me, I am not worth getting too worked up about. Just killfile me and get on with your life, as mature, and therefore out of the question, as that may sound. Bugger Everybody

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… It’s astonishing how the denizens of this group expect newcomers to take a ration and yet are so offended at the slightest ribbing.

We expect EVERYBODY to "take a ration". That’s the nature of the place and newbies are not exempt. It takes a pretty thick skin to voice an unpopular opinion around here but I, for one, agree with you about the Korean piece of shit Cabela’s Three Forks. Hang around, ignore most of the shit-weasels and give tit-for-tat to the rest. You might have fun. — Ken Fortenberry

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Why not avoid the riffraff and start a private group?

Why not form your own group and thus avoid riffraff and grumpy old men? Or simply die? rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.grumpy.old.men It’s astonishing how the denizens of this group expect newcomers to take a ration and yet are so offended at the slightest ribbing.

It is even more astonishing to contemplate how ill equipped you are to determine what anyone expects or who is offended by what.  But then, what with your head spending so much time up your ass, all that buggery was bound to have some unpleasant consequences, wasn’t it? I think you take yourselfs a little too seriously.

Well, aside from the fact that the vast majority of us have only a single self (unlike some other highly uninteresting individuals who only drop in occasionally to take a much deserved and inevitable drubbing) and that the group as a whole also has only a single self, what you may or may not believe you think (assuming such a ludicrous notion has any applicability to this or any other world) is a matter which no one here is likely to take seriously. Except for Wolfgang,

Always quite flattering to be thought of as exceptional. but I bet he’s not so glib when he’s low on meds.

Genius.  Sheer unadulterated genius.  Mind if I use that one some time? Believe me,

As a rule, that is not likely to happen. I am not worth getting too worked up about.

We believe you. Just killfile me

No.  That has never worked for you before…..why would you think it would this time? and get on with your life,

Well, aside from the fact that we do not share a single life (each of us having been bestowed with an entire one of his or her own), what in the world would make you think that any of your pusillanimous pettifoggery would prompt anyone to put his or her life on hold for even the briefest instant? as mature, and therefore out of the question, as that may sound.

Actually, it doesn’t, for all of the reasons stated above. Wolfgang and he STILL doesn’t get it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bugger Everybody

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"pusillanimous pettifoggery" "pusillanimous pettifoggery" "pusillanimous pettifoggery" Cool.

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Why not avoid the riffraff and start a private group? rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.grumpy.old.men

And just how do you know we are old? I mean, you could be a lot older and are obviously quite grumpy enough for us all. Oh, and you forgot the "cor" at the beginning of your email address. — HTH, Tim

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Hello all you hansom, intellectual, talented ROFFers (especially rw), Hi Bugger too, Everyone that could not take the diversity of fly fisherman on the web here already left this group years ago slamming the door loudly. You have to be very open minded to be here for the long hall. You have to have a sense of humor too. I remember sitting here years ago, dead of winter, nothing going on and "T-bone" would make a post that made me laugh so loud that I woke my wife in the next room. You have to be half crazy to have a fly shop to because we get some customers that make George look passive. Only stay here if it is worth it, but save the complaints because we have already heard them all. I don’t care if you are a "nympher" or a "troller" or just "too cerebral", OK, now I will tell a bed time story for you guys. (10:30pm in California) When I was a teenager I ran around with a neighborhood group of guys in south Sacramento. When I was with the group, someone was always teasing me about my clothes or my hair or something I said. One day I just left mad. The next day at school a friend ask me where I went. I told him I did not think many of them liked me because they always teased me. He said that they teased everyone in the group. My friend said that if they did not like you, they would not say anything thing to you. Most people just want to be noticed. My friend was pretty smart. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Why not avoid the riffraff and start a private group? rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.grumpy.old.men It’s astonishing how the denizens of this group expect newcomers to take a ration and yet are so offended at the slightest ribbing. I think you take yourselfs a little too seriously. Except for Wolfgang, but I bet he’s not so glib when he’s low on meds. Believe me, I am not worth getting too worked up about. Just killfile me and get on with your life, as mature, and therefore out of the question, as that may sound. Bugger Everybody

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Suggestion withdrawn. It just occurred to me that I am pretty grumpy, and certainly not young, which is to say approaching middle age, as long as I plan to live until I’m 85… Bugger Me p.s. My apologies to the troll about advice for a ‘fishing pole’. I figured this group would jump all over the faux paus of calling a fly rod a pole. What do I get? Advice. Shit, maybe I’ll try out the 3 forks. p.p.s. Wolfgang, do you fish? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Why not avoid the riffraff and start a private group? rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.grumpy.old.men It’s astonishing how the denizens of this group expect newcomers to take a ration and yet are so offended at the slightest ribbing. I think you take yourselfs a little too seriously. Except for Wolfgang, but I bet he’s not so glib when he’s low on meds. Believe me, I am not worth getting too worked up about. Just killfile me and get on with your life, as mature, and therefore out of the question, as that may sound. Bugger Everybody

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….Wolfgang, do you fish?

Been thinking about trying it.  Care to recommend a good pole? Wolfgang

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….Wolfgang, do you fish? Been thinking about trying it.  Care to recommend a good pole? Wolfgang

 South! S.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ….Wolfgang, do you fish? Been thinking about trying it.  Care to recommend a good pole? Wolfgang South! S.

Lech Walesa! G.C.

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What do you guys think? — Padishar Creel

 Mike is gone.  Never to grace ROFF again! Opie

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Hold the presses, did I hear that Mike is not going to be part of ROFF?  I want my membership dues refunded immediately.  Mike is one of the best, if not the best part of this NG and we need the long rodder in our midst.  I say we *not accept* Mike’s resignation.  Who is the hell does he thing he is?  He can’t quit, he belongs to us…he must of missed the fine print in the contract, but no ill feelings Mike, just get your butt back on line, pronto, Mister Connor. I think a poem from Mike will suffice as penance!  What do you guys think?

The following which was posted 9/30/00 by Mr. Connor, is one of my favorites: The angler stood in silent concentration casting to a rise a passer-by quite interested, watched the angler cast his flies. "Are there any fish in here" he asked of our friend piscator at last, "I have never seen one here at all, not today, or ever in the past". "There are a few",  our angler then replied with friendly smile, "But it

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I was driving back to Montreal on the Eastern Townships autoroute and crossed the Yamaska River.  My brief glimpse of it was pretty favourable so I looked it up on the map.  Are there fish in it, eg north of Farnham, or is it one of the rivers polluted by runoff from adjacent farms?  Where are access points for fly fishing, i.e. places to park?

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I was driving back to Montreal on the Eastern Townships autoroute and crossed the Yamaska River.  My brief glimpse of it was pretty favourable so I looked it up on the map.  Are there fish in it, eg north of Farnham, or is it one of the rivers polluted by runoff from adjacent farms?  Where are access points for fly fishing, i.e. places to park?

Have you tried posting this question to can.rec.fishing?  I’ve crossed this river too and wondered the same thing. Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Has anyone done any bonefishing in Roatan?  Are there guides available? Thanks in advance. Ken

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I’ve been to Roatan but not fished there Jack Sampson in the book "Salt Water Fly Fishing" talks about flyfishing for permit, bill fish  and jack crevalle near there at Guanaja- a ferry ride away. I saw places that looked like they would have to have bonefish but didn’t have a fly rod along. herb

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Hi folks, I’m new to the group, and would like your thoughts on what is the best kayak for fly fishing coastal bays and flats.  I normally fly fish in Christmas Bay (close to Galveston, TX), and use a Zest Two – Ocean Kayak two seater.  It’s kinda tough to handle in a breeze over, say, 10 kts. I’m in the market for a faster boat that will handle higher wind conditions, and would like some input from those more knowledgable than I. Howard About Christmas Bay – http://www.christmasbay.com

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  Hi, the boat of choice here in San Diego for fishing seems to be the Scupper Pro,and Scupper Classic. I own the classic , it weighs48pds. compared to your68pd. zest. The pros weigh 55pds.      I’m able to troll effectivly even when the wind picks up, if the wind picks up while jig fishing or while i’m after halibut i use my sea anchor to slow my drift     Aqua

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I’m new to the group, and would like your thoughts on what is the best kayak for fly fishing coastal bays and flats.  I normally fly fish in Christmas Bay (close to Galveston, TX), and use a Zest Two – Ocean Kayak two seater.  It’s kinda tough to handle in a breeze over, say, 10 kts. I’m in the market for a faster boat that will handle higher wind conditions, and would like some input from those more knowledgable than I.

I’m also a newbie to this thing, but I’ve got a few opinions anyway…  [had my boat for a couple months so far] I know most folks will suggest an open cockpit boat, but don’t write off an enclosed version.   Also, I know most folks tend to prefer getting out of the boat and wade, but I’m not one of them.  I like to start more or less dry, and end more or less dry. I have very little difficulty casting my 8 weight while seated in my kayak. [Dagger Edisto].   But there is also enough deck rigging to support a decent trolling setup, and there was enough mounting and cargo room for me to add an all-around light to help with safe night fishing and transits to duck hunting spots next season.. If you are annoyed by high winds and waves, get a rudder. The difference is mind bogolling. My modest experiences so far: http://www.neosoft.com/~rww/kayak_log.html

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If you are annoyed by high winds and waves, get a rudder. The difference is mind bogolling. My modest experiences so far: http://www.neosoft.com/~rww/kayak_log.html

If I get out I may use a fly rod on the flats, but I have had more luck trolling from my kayak.  I dont know if its the speed or that the boat makes the fish notice my fly or lure but the success rate is pretty good for both bass and blues.  I use a kevlar kayak and a rudder to make the experience "less painful".  I also gave up using a rod from my boat.  I made a hand line device that is very easy to use.  To see one visit my site at:  http://www.jlc.net/~hlevin I usually troll rapalas, rubber eels a fly or other artifical baits. —     Hal     Wilton, NH     Power your boat with carbohydrates,     not hydrocarbons.           http://www.jlc.net/~hlevin                 0                  _O                     0

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If I get out I may use a fly rod on the flats, but I have had more luck trolling from my kayak.  I dont know if its the speed or that the boat

I do good trolling as well. experience "less painful".  I also gave up using a rod from my boat.  I made a hand line device that is very easy to use.  To see one visit my

Give up my rod and reel?  I have a rod holder angled 45 degrees backward, a bit behind the cockpit.  I can paddle (troll) at any speed without interference.  That reminds me…i was trolling at work yesterday..woops!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi group I’ll probably get "blasted" by folks in the group but regarding ice in your rod guides: Has anyone tried PAM vegetable cooking spray? I’ve used it for several years and have at least convinced myself less ice forms in the guides. It does make the rod and line kind of greasy so I wash the rod and line when I get home from a trip and treat the fly line with a line conditioner. Yes, I also place the rod in the water to melt the ice however I think less ice forms using the PAM approach. Now I wonder if the fish like the butter flavor better or the olive oil flavor? (grin) — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

stockers like the butter flavour while wild fish go for olive oil! 8^) Ralph H

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Hi group I’ll probably get "blasted" by folks in the group but regarding ice in your rod guides: Has anyone tried PAM vegetable cooking spray? I’ve used it for several years and have at least convinced myself less ice forms in the guides. It does make the rod and line kind of greasy so I wash the rod and line when I get home from a trip and treat the fly line with a line conditioner. Yes, I also place the rod in the water to melt the ice however I think less ice forms using the PAM approach. Now I wonder if the fish like the butter flavor better or the olive oil flavor? (grin) — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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: Hi group : I’ll probably get "blasted" by folks in the group but regarding ice in : your rod guides: Has anyone tried PAM vegetable cooking spray? I’ve used : it for several years and have at least convinced myself less ice forms in : the guides. It does make the rod and line kind of greasy so I wash the : rod and line when I get home from a trip and treat the fly line with a : line conditioner. Why not?  It makes sense that the oil would displace the water some so that ice would not form and build up as quickly. It should not hurt the line, although the oil will make it pick up dirt more quickly. Try Dynaglide!  I am looking at a can of it right now, and it CAN be sprayed directly onto the flyline!  It may work out better than Pam. : Yes, I also place the rod in the water to melt the ice however I think : less ice forms using the PAM approach. : Now I wonder if the fish like the butter flavor better or the olive oil : flavor? (grin) This fisherman likes the olive oil flavor better!  A good way cook trout is to spray it with Pam and grill it directly over coals, or a gas grill. Very tasty, and no skillet to clean! — Jon Porter

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Now I wonder if the fish like the butter flavor better or the olive oil flavor? (grin)

Al: From all indications the fish like the "butter" flavor the best! roflmao Joe

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I’ll probably get "blasted" by folks in the group but regarding ice in your rod guides: Has anyone tried PAM vegetable cooking spray?

Living and fishing near the Great Lakes, ice in the guides is sort of a way of life (those seasons where I can actually FISH during the winter – unlike this year ). The only really effective solution we have found to icing guides is to build rods with oversized guides and tiptops. It certainly does not prevent the icing, but it dramatically increases the number of casts we can make before de-icing is required. My friends and I have tried all sorts of things to prevent icing, and none have really been worth the bother (or the risk to our tackle). The change to our tackle has made the bigget difference (especially the tiptop and stripping guides). Bob Petti Endwell, NY

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I am a member of the( Golden Spread Flyfishers) Amarillo, Texas I am looking for some good examples of information and articles to enclude in our news letter. If you have a copy of a current news letter from your Fly Fishing Club, Please E-Mail a copy or the file. TO:

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Hi Ken, You can also contact the Federation of Fly Fishers at 1-800-618-0808.   They have PC disc available for FFF club newletters.  Call and see what they have. Good Luck Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (request a catalog)

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I am a member of the( Golden Spread Flyfishers) Amarillo, Texas I am looking for some good examples of information and articles to enclude in our news letter.

If you want to produce a newsletter that is popular and always gets read, concentrate on information about the local/regional fishing. The most popular feature in our newsletter is the "Fishing Journal" where members report where they went locally (though they are often understandably vague about exact locations), what they used, what the conditions were, and what they caught (or didn’t catch).  Of course, to do a regular feature like this, it helps to have some members who actually FISH on a regular basis. You’ll probably find that 10% of the club members do 90% of the fishing. Other popular stories people want in their club newsletter: Fly recipes and tying instructions for patterns which are proven producers on local waters.(and how/where to fish them). Any information about local fisheries you can get from your state fish and game managers. Get to know these people and call regularly. First hand accounts by members on "week end" fishing trips to places within a 3-8 hour  drive. Lodging, food, fishing quality, access etc. New items or greatly reduced sale items at the local fly shops. Overlooked local waters for lunch time/evening "quick outings". Local Tackle buy/sell/trade classifieds. In short, go with your strength: local information.  You can’t compete with the slick national mags for general "how to" fishing info, so give your members what they can’t get anywhere else: good, solid information on how to enjoy their sport close to home. Doing a really good job on a newsletter takes a lot of effort, but you will actually enjoy your own fly fishing more using what you learn doing it.

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I will be up in Sacramento California the first weekend of October and was wondering what the fishing possibilities are for that area.  I will only have like an afternoon available so I need a location close to city of Sacramento. Thanks for the information Jerome Fong 501 East Middlefield Road                       fax:    415 – 528-4159 Mountain View, CA 94043                         voice:  415 – 528-2847                                                 http://home.netscape.com/                              *_              /           O/    o       <xxxXxxxxxXxxx       ~    ~  ~     ~   ~   ( ((0)) )         ~        ~   ~               0       ~     ~      ~     ~    ~

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Jerome, try the Sacramento River or the American river.  Right in town….Dean Fairfield, CA….Good luck

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Suggest you contact Kiene’s Fly Shop in Sacramento for best bet info. They may suggest you try for half-pounder steelhead on the American right in Sacramento.  Puhta Creek above Winters toward Lake Berryessa is another possibility.  Go with Kiene’s suggestions!

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I concur, there is always Putah Creek.  They were doing some work earlier this year so check with a fly shop on conditions.   — SGanz

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I have an Orvis PM-10 8wt with a Ross G-4 reel and would like to gear up for a shooting head/shooting line. I’m planning to buy an xtra spool for the G-4, load up a couple hundred yards of Cortland Spectron 35lb backing, then attach the shooting line and finally shooting head. My questions are:

I do a lot of striper fishing and use shooting heads almost exclusivly. The realy nice thing is you can travel very light. I tend to grab a rod, a box of flies, some leader material, and a couple of shooting heads (floating and  sinking) and put everything in my pockets. Here are some thoughts from my experience.        1) what is the best shooting line to use for steelhead and/or          saltwater? My choices seem to be braided nylon or light level          fly lines. (i.e. in the 2-3 weight category.)

First. Everything is a compromise.  I haven’t used the braided lines, (someone told me they are very hard on your hands) but I am thinking about giving them a try. I have used "amnesia" mono line and found it to be a real pain. It tends to blow around and catch on things pretty easily (I tend not to use a shooting basket, which might solve these problems). But with mono, you sure can cast a long way and a sinking head will sink very deep. So that leaves level fly line, which I’ve been using for quite a while. The biggest advantage to fly line is it floats. I use a fast sinking shooting head quite a bit and floating shooting line makes it much easier to pick up the line for the next cast. If you do use flyline, before you start fishing, stretch it. It will lay in nice coils. Also I found that spraying a rag with some silicon and running the shooting line through it works great. But don’t silicon a sinking head. This year I also decided to mark the shooting line every ten feet with a permenant black marker. This give me some idead of how much line I have out.       2) what is the best way to attach the shooting head to the shooting          line? Do loops work well, or is a direct connection much better?

Again it’s a compromise. If you attach the shooting line directly – ie with a needle or nail knot – it will be easier to shoot the line through the guides. In theory, the shooting head should be outside the tiptop before you try to shoot any line. In practice, this is rarely the case. (BTW, if you make your own rods, use an oversize tiptop, it solves a lot of problems.) I use loops, because it makes switching shooting heads very easy. You don’t have to reel everything in and switch spools. Instead, you just unloop one head and loop on another. I haven’t used the braided loops that are available, but I probably will give them a try next year. Making loops is easy:    a. You need a razor blade, very fine thread (preferably in a bobbin),   and three kinds of glue, "Super glue", Duco Cement and Pliabond.    b. Begin by shaving the end of the fly line down to the center core for    a couple of inches.    c. Lay the shaved part back on the standing part so you have a loop of about 3/4 of a inch.    d. Stick the two parts together with the super glue and let it dry.    e. Wrap the glued part with thread and finish with whip finish, just   like a rod guide.    f. Coat the wrap with Duco Cement. Let it dry.    g. Coat that with Pliabond. I use the same three glues over a needle knot for attaching leader butt material.        3) what kinds of shooting heads are best? (i.e. the pre-made ones          available from Sci Anglers, Orvis, etc. or by cutting a section          from a double-taper flyline or some such.)

I’ve had both. If you make your own you can get two heads from one double taper, but a double taper line probably costs about twice as much as a store bought head. One advantage to making your own is you can tailor the length (and thus the weight) to match your rod. Start with a length of 35 feet or so. Attach it temporarily to the running line and try casting with it. If your rod loads well and casts easily, go ahead and finish it. If it’s not right keep trimming a bit of length. If your are making it from a double taper, it’s probably best to trim it from the rear (where it’s attached to the shooting line.)        4) should I use a shooting head sized for a 9 or 10 weight? I’ve          seen some text which seems to imply that using a size or two          larger than the rod is rated for is appropriate. Is it?

This all depends on the rod. All things considered, if you buying instead of making, you would probably do best to start with a head rated one size too large. I hope this helps — P.O. Box 409 Cambridge, MA 02140-0004

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Quoting templin from a message in rec.outdoors.fishing.fly     should I use a shooting head sized for a 9 or 10 weight? I’ve     seen some text which seems to imply that using a size or two     larger than the rod is rated for is appropriate. Let me answer your question on line weights.  I was listening to our local Southern California radio fishing talk show this morning.  Their guests were Lefty Kreh and Flip Pallot.  They are in town for the annual Marriott’s Fly Shop Flyfishing Fair.  The same question came up.  Lefty said if you are using a shooting head to use a line one weight heavier than your rod weight.   He added that if you are using a sinking line, like a HI-D to go 2 sizes heavier. Jim in Southern California

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1) what is the best shooting line to use for steelhead and/or    saltwater?

I use Cortland’s 0.031" diameter running line – looks like fine fly line.  When using a shooting head setup, you’ll spend lots of time handling the line which is why I would recommend against mono or braided lines. You can find other diameter running lines, but if they’re too thin, handling is tough and the line wears too fast, and if too thick, the head won’t be as able to pull the running line out for good casting distance. 2) what is the best way to attach the shooting head to the shooting    line? Do loops work well, or is a direct connection much better?

You want some sort of loop system to allow exchanging of heads. I’ve tried a ‘double nail knot mono loop’ and a braided loop.  Either works, though I have more confidence in the mono loop.  Just use some 30lb mono.         ___        /   ___vvv The "^^^" nail knot is done first, and not pulled tight until the second "vvv" nail knot is done.  The mono going back to the second nail knot runs under the loops used in forming the first nail knot. Since the PVC cover on most fly lines can pull off the braided core, I usually like to put a knot "+" in the core and sug the nail knots up against it.    3) what kinds of shooting heads are best? (i.e. the pre-made ones      available from Sci Anglers, Orvis, etc. or by cutting a section      from a double-taper flyline or some such.)

Depends on what you’ll be fishing for.   For salmon and steelhead in Oregon, 3, 4, 5 and 6 foot sections of 850-grain Deep Water Express is the norm.    4) should I use a shooting head sized for a 9 or 10 weight? I’ve      seen some text which seems to imply that using a size or two      larger than the rod is rated for is appropriate. Is it?

Many of these setups are *not* tuned to any rod weight.  I use 8wt and 9wt rods when chucking heads, and suspect a 7wt would do. Thomas Gilg

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      1) what is the best shooting line to use for steelhead and/or      saltwater? My choices seem to be braided nylon or light level

I use two kinds; an Orvis shooting Line made for the purpose and a monofile nylon line from Berkley called XL Solange in 0.50 milimeters thickness. The Orvis is good, comfortable and easy to use. The Berkley casts longer, but is harder to handle. Some of my fellow fishermen tried braided line with good luck, but I find it rough on the fingers.    2) what is the best way to attach the shooting head to the shooting      line? Do loops work well, or is a direct connection much better?

I use loops with great success. They’re easier to make and make experiments (see later) much easier. But direct connection goes smoother through the rings, and feels a little better in the cast — more directly connected, if you’ll excuse the pun. If you use mono line for shooting line, then use a real nail knot for the joint. One where the mono goes inside the fly line. If you use level line or ‘real’ shooting line, remove coating from both lines, splice in some way, and cover with aquaseal or the like.    3) what kinds of shooting heads are best? (i.e. the pre-made ones      available from Sci Anglers, Orvis, etc. or by cutting a section      from a double-taper flyline or some such.)

I always made mine from DT line a class (or even two) heavier than the classification of the rod. I cut them in half, which makes them much too heavy, but with a loop system, it’s very fast to find the right weight (that is: length) of the head. Start casting, and cut small peices of the line, until you get the right weight. It’s best to have someone familiar whith shooting heads to help you the first time, if you’ve never used a shooting head before.       4) should I use a shooting head sized for a 9 or 10 weight? I’ve      seen some text which seems to imply that using a size or two      larger than the rod is rated for is appropriate. Is it?

See above. Normally one class above will be OK. But use very inexpensive DT lines for experiments, and remember; there’s always the other half if you cut too much…. BTW: cut off most of the front taper of the half DT line. It’s not much good anyway, and a good knotted or tapered leader will transfer movement better without it. Regards Martin Joergensen Copenhagen, Denmark

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   It’s not just you – I haven’t received anything from FLYFISH either over the last 2 days.  Funny, because the LISTSERV will respond to commands and acknowledge their receipt.  For the moment, I’ve decided I’ll be patient (although I miss my daily fix of fly fishing chatter!).

Me, too.  Although,  I actually got some work done today…   Tim

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hey FLYFISH people, i’ve tried 3 different times, still nothing….. anyone have any ideas on why my subscription won’t take???? thanks, g.

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hey FLYFISH people, i’ve tried 3 different times, still nothing….. anyone have any ideas on why my subscription won’t take????

 Me too – I have sent mail to the organiser of the list and I am  hoping that I will hear from him – a previous attempt to contact him  was unsuccessful. Has anyone on here subscribed recently? I followed  the instructions posted by John Allison to the letter but heard nothing. — Ed Kelly

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: hey FLYFISH people, : : i’ve tried 3 different times, still nothing….. anyone have any ideas : on why my subscription won’t take???? : : thanks, : : : g. There has been some problems at the FLYFISH server.  I sent in several submissions on Wednesday and all were rejected, and I didn’t receive a digest for several days (one finally arrived today).

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: hey FLYFISH people, : : i’ve tried 3 different times, still nothing….. anyone have any ideas : on why my subscription won’t take???? : : thanks, : : : g. There has been some problems at the FLYFISH server.  I sent in several submissions on Wednesday and all were rejected, and I didn’t receive a digest for several days (one finally arrived today).

This doesn’t explain why I can’t get on the list for over 5 months of trying.   I think that I’ve tried everything short of a phone call. Bill

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: There has been some problems at the FLYFISH server.  I sent in several : submissions on Wednesday and all were rejected, and I didn’t receive a : digest for several days (one finally arrived today). : This doesn’t explain why I can’t get on the list for over 5 months of trying.   : I think that I’ve tried everything short of a phone call. Your mailer (or some mail gateway) is probably mangling your return address.  The Listserver automatically picks up your address from the message you sent it.  If you do not get a response from the server when you send the subscription request, that is probably what is happening.  Contact your mail administrator and make sure your mailer is sending out the correct headers. — Information Technology Specialist Hewlett-Packard Test & Measurement Organization Information Technology Colorado Springs, CO

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I guess it is back up now. I am a new subscriber and I am a bit puzzled to see that I don’t receive my own posts. Should I? —

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I haven’t received anything from FLYFISH digest for two days. Is something wrong globally or is it just me? Joe —

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: I haven’t received anything from FLYFISH digest for two days. : Is something wrong globally or is it just me? : Joe         It’s not just you – I haven’t received anything from FLYFISH either over the last 2 days.  Funny, because the LISTSERV will respond to commands and acknowledge their receipt.  For the moment, I’ve decided I’ll be patient (although I miss my daily fix of fly fishing chatter!). Boston City Hospital Boston University School of Medicine

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first off, i’d like to thank all the wonderful  people at the academy that made this all possible, my producer, my mom and dad…. all the little people…. seriously…. may i suggest that you try the following address for subscribing to FLYFISH: and as always… in the body of your message, simply type SUBSCRIBE FLYFISH…. it worked for me….. and thanks again for all the help…. chaio, g.

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Hope this does it for you. Aloha – bob    ooo_ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I guess it is back up now. I am a new subscriber and I am a bit puzzled to see that I don’t receive my own posts. Should I? —

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hey FLYFISH people, i’ve tried 3 different times, still nothing….. anyone have any ideas on why my subscription won’t take???? thanks, g.

It appears the list may be down… I haven’t gotten anyhthing from it for about a week now! —  Joe Ellis         o/~ The Synthetic Filker o/~ |    TesserAct Studios

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