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Wow, I just had a great time fishing in front of the school on the Lielupe River! Thanks to you guys here on ROFF (whatever that is..). I was headed home after work, glanced over at the usually rather full fishing spot, and not one local was there, probably because of the overcast skies and promise of rain. The space with the clear zone for a backcast was wide open, and as I stood there thinking about it, 2 big old rises appeared <right there.  Easy decision: tossed the briefcase in the car, peeled off the shoes and socks, stepped into my mudboots, and assembled the 4-weight. Strolled over to the bank and watched for a minute. The skeeters were there, but so were these tiny little black flying things and the perch were rising for them all over. Not the big thrashing rises from the other day, but some respectable rises nontheless. And lots of them. I tied on a 6x tippet, gave myself about 1 meter of lead, and looked at my flycase. I recently bought a nice old Soviet cigarette case at a junk shop and lined it with foam as a nymph case for my 4-wt, and saw a fly that looked interesting. Its a type of caterpillar, I think, with a palmered hackle around a yellow-orange body on a #12(?) hook. Looks like a wolly bugger without a tail. I was thinking about what Mike said about colors, and how Perch nip at the tails and to use a wolly with a short tail, so I tied this on. Also, the water is getting shallow, and this fly can float if you lay it out gently, so I figured it would work for presentation practice, too. First cast was short and easy, as someone suggested here. Then I gradually stretched out my false casts farther and farther, thinking ‘back and UP’, and as someone else suggested, watching over my shoulder for the line to straighten. It was a LONG wait…the line would do a sort of ‘double tug’ at the end of my backcast: once when the tailing loop of the backcast would hit the far end, then again when the entire line was laid out up there. Dunno how the line can defy gravity for so long waiting to stretch out taut, but it does. Then, I swept it forward firmly and sharply, pointing it like a sword (as someone else suggested), and was amazed at how my casts were straight, long, and perfectly presented. First cast, fish on! Of course, it was some little 6-inch thing, but hey!, it was just what I wanted. I brought it in with the line, not bothering to spool up the reel, and let it go with my heartfelt thanks. Then I cast out again, watching the line behind me and waiting forever for the backcast to load up. The forward cast and watching the fly stay ‘above the line’ as Jarmo suggested made total sense, and it felt just right. Second cast, fish on! Too cool! This guy was a bit bigger (6.1 inches, probably), but I got that feeling that it was working just like it was supposed to! All those tiny details were making sense, and it was great. Then the skies opened up and it started to rain. I remembered the thread about how fish seem to bite better at one time or another, and figured the Perch seemed to like to hit just before the skies open up. A few minutes later, when the rain stopped and the sun broke through, there were no rises. As the clouds covered up again, the rises came more and more regularly until just before it rained again. At some point, I decided to experiment with flies as the caterpillar was getting soaked and starting to snag on the muck at the bottom. I took it off and tied on a very tiny yellow thing I have; I think its a #18 yellow Comparadun. Anyway, I was laying it out there exactly where the big rises were and letting it lie there, but no takes. Finally, I decided to head home and started retrieving it slowly. Wham! it got hit and spit out. Wham! it got hit again. Ahhh, so THATS the secret! So I spent the next half hour casting and gently retrieving it, hauling in fish with almost every cast. Great. Of course, these were no great monsters, and I realize that perch are pathetically easy to catch, but at least now I have a baseline to experiment with, and grow from. I know there are some BIG perch in this stretch of water, so I’m ready to start learning how to aim for them. All in all, it was a great way to spend an hour after work, and I was thinking of all the tidbits of advice from folks here about everything, from how to cast, to the effect of cloud cover, to what color and type of fly to use, to knots, to everything. Thanks, guys!! riverman (happy boy)

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Wow, I just had a great time fishing in front of the school on the Lielupe River! Thanks to you guys here on ROFF (whatever that is..).

Congratulations!    Just one point though, catching small perch may seem "pathetically easy" sometimes. The larger ones can be quite a challenge. Even a medium sized perch will give you a good run for your money on a #4 wt. If you only seem to be catching small ones, try fishing a streamer anyway, occasionally, a large perch will be hanging around waiting for one of his smaller brethren to make a mistake. TL MC

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Check out this link for paddlefish info: http://fishing.miningco.com/recreation/fishing/cs/paddlefshsturgeon/i… m V.B. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looking into doing some paddflishing in the glendive, MT area and wonder if anyone can give some tips.  I have checked the web site that offers ideas about tackle and equipment, just wonder the method of snagging or how one goes about it, Is this done from shore mostly? Does one cast and retrieve ? Depth of water? Time of Day?  Season as in early or late? Things of this nature. Would be much appreciated.  Thank you.  Dave

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Looking into doing some paddflishing in the glendive, MT area and wonder if anyone can give some tips.  I have checked the web site that offers ideas about tackle and equipment, just wonder the method of snagging or how one goes about it, Is this done from shore mostly? Does one cast and retrieve ? Depth of water? Time of Day?  Season as in early or late? Things of this nature. Would be much appreciated.  Thank you.  Dave

I am more familiar with a couple of areas north of Glendive.  Intake is about 35 mile north and the Confluence of the Yellowstone and Missouri is farther yet (N. Dakota fishing license required there). Also near the bridge at Sidney MT.  {If they ever give the state of Montana an enema, Sidney is where they will stick the hose.  Hell, even the birds fly over Sidney upside-down because there isn’t anything there worth shittin on.}  The fishing is done from shore. You cast out so far that you have to call the Tower for Clearance to Launch first, then "whip" your rod back, stop, retrieve the slack and repeat.  Water depth is anywhere from 2 to 15-20 feet.  Time of day doesn’t really matter.  I am not sure on when the legal season starts, but I was in that area during the last week of May last year, and fish were being caught!  I lived in that part of the country during the 80s (drove tanker trucks in the oil patch), and paddlefishing was the first riverside party of the year.  In fact, it always seemed like most of the people that were at Intake, were there more for the party than fishing.  Whatever you do, DO NOT get caught doing anything illegal, including having an un-tagged fish in your possession.  The local Judge is an avid outdoorsman and throws the book at game violations….No, I never had to appear in his court for anything – he is a good friend of mine and I know his attitude. — All fishermen are liars ‘cept you n me, and I’m starting to have doubts about you!

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Looking into doing some paddflishing in the glendive, MT area and wonder if anyone can give some tips.  I have checked the web site that offers ideas about tackle and equipment, just wonder the method of snagging or how one goes about it, Is this done from shore mostly? Does one cast and retrieve ? Depth of water? Time of Day?  Season as in early or late? Things of this nature. Would be much appreciated.  Thank you.  Dave

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That would sure help explain ROFF…

Even in a parallel universe of one’s own design that would be a very tall order.

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Response # 2 Not really. I profess complete understanding of NADA.

Hey, that’s great Dave!    Can you tell me how much my old ‘84 Isuzu pickup is worth?  :-) Joe F.

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   If it’s your fishing vehicle then it’s priceless.  I wish I still had my old 1970 Datsun pickup.  It had a hundred thousand miles of great fishing memories on the odometer. Ernie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can you tell me how much my old ‘84 Isuzu pickup is worth?  :-) Joe F.

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  If it’s your fishing vehicle then it’s priceless.  I wish I still had my old 1970 Datsun pickup.  It had a hundred thousand miles of great fishing memories on the odometer.

A truck like this is "priceless" anyway.   It’s too worthless to sell & is basically unsound and unsafe, but to replace it would cost thousands. There’s something great about a vehicle that you don’t have to worry about beating the hell out of.   It got relegated to "farm" use a few years ago. I once carried a round bale of hay in the bed (one of those really big ones).   Damned frame was riding on the axles, the springs having completely given up, and the whole rig was extremely top heavy.  Better than an E-ticket at Disneyland.   Managed to get 42 regular bales piled on it once, too. As it happens, the odometer turned 100K on the way home from a salmon trip a few years back.   Still going strong.   Great truck. Joe F.

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Joe,    My old Datsun pickup had a hellish set of overload springs on it.  I called it Buckshot, because every time you went over a bump it bucked and shot you into the roof. Ernie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A truck like this is "priceless" anyway.   It’s too worthless to sell & is basically unsound and unsafe, but to replace it would cost thousands. There’s something great about a vehicle that you don’t have to worry about beating the hell out of.   It got relegated to "farm" use a few years ago. I once carried a round bale of hay in the bed (one of those really big ones).   Damned frame was riding on the axles, the springs having completely given up, and the whole rig was extremely top heavy.  Better than an E-ticket at Disneyland.   Managed to get 42 regular bales piled on it once, too. As it happens, the odometer turned 100K on the way home from a salmon trip a few years back.   Still going strong.   Great truck. Joe F.

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Joe In the words of my favorite musical group . . . A little bit is better than nada Sometimes you want the whole enchilada A little bit is better than nada A little bit,  or nothing at all. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey, that’s great Dave!    Can you tell me how much my old ‘84 Isuzu pickup is worth?  :-) Joe F.

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Actually Bob the Ernie Harrison Knot machine is an incredible devise. Im thinking about buying one to burn a new CPU on my old Intell. In my opinion it will do a fab job. And at virtually no cost.

It’s "Intel", Dave. One "l". I’m not a spelling Nazi, but you keep doing this and it’s bugging me. BTW, I hate Intel and I’ve never bought an Intel product. They’ve been a great investment for some, though. If New Mexico wants to subsidize Intel plants that’s none of my beeswax, since I don’t live in New Mexico. If I did, and if I knew the facts, I might oppose it. Call me crazy, but I find that the Pentium chips they make in the stores aren’t up to the ones that I make better thru my exercise of free will and free market gumption. The fact is that anyone can see that the "chips" made in the store cannot possibly have the care and love that I give mine.

I see. Maybe you should market your chips. Along with your special salsa. One thing you will learn from the computer/software contingent on ROFF: Its OK to make it up as you go. So, economics? Make it up. Behavioral science? Make it up. History, geography? make it up. It is not really important to actually study and learn about these disciplines to be able to firmly assert arguable propositions about them.

These issues are far too complex for any simple solutions we might come up with in ROFF. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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Take me to your leader ? TL MC

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You know how you always wish you had a third hand when you tied blood knots ?  Ernie just tapes an inflated surgeons glove to his plonker… — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A.

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You know how you always wish you had a third hand when you tied blood knots ?  Ernie just tapes an inflated surgeons glove to his plonker…

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hire a guide. He will teach you more in one day than you can learn in a year by yourself. sage advise. oh yeah…wear some shoes. stingrays are painful. –Wataugan Walt Another piece of advice, if you gotta void DON’t do it in the water if you are waist deep. Walk to the shore and do it in the bushes. It’s a little known fact, sharks home on human urine. Be sure not to take it out when you are waist deep and go.                                                        John Popp                                                       in Sanford Fl.         john, dammit, you blew it!  here we were, about to complete an honest to god, serious, informative, boring, lifeless thread, and here you come with some witty, lively humor.  we just must purge roff of such trash!         your anal retentive buddy,         wayno wayno

 But I was serious (sob sob). Does no one take me seriously. Now that youve negated my advice by relegating it to humor, don’t blame me if the advice is not taken and the worm is.                                                            John Popp                                                      in Sanford Fl.

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don’t blame me if the advice is not taken and the worm is.

Stop it John! Your killing me! Capt. Gary S. Colecchio West Palm Beach, Florida "Lie ? Me ? Never!  No, no, no, the truth is far too much fun !" – Captain Hook

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Hire a guide. He will teach you more in one day than you can learn in a year by yourself.

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Hire a guide. He will teach you more in one day than you can learn in a year by yourself.

sage advise. oh yeah…wear some shoes. stingrays are painful. –Wataugan Walt

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There are places to wade around there but, as others have suggested, get a guide – at least for a day. Oh, and do wear shoes and shuffle your feet when you walk so you don’t step on a ray. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I’ll be in the Florida Keys the week of Thanksgiving.  I’m hoping to catch my first Bonefish.  However, I know nothing about the Keys or Bonefish.  To further complicate things I’m a relatively new fly fisherman. So any information/tips would be most welcome.  I’ll be staying in Islamorada.  I do not have a boat so I’ll be wading. Questions. 1. Where should I fish? 2. What time of the day should I fish?  Or is it what part of the tide do I fish? 3. Any pointers on fly fishing for bonefish would be helpful. 4. Any dangers I should know about?  Should I wear shoes?  Is there bad things to step on? Many thanks, David PS I heard Harry Harris park is a good place to fish.  Is this true? Also, I’ll have my Golden Retriever along.  Where can I take her when I’m not fishing?

– Charlie…

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hire a guide. He will teach you more in one day than you can learn in a year by yourself. sage advise. oh yeah…wear some shoes. stingrays are painful. –Wataugan Walt Another piece of advice, if you gotta void DON’t do it in the water if you are waist deep. Walk to the shore and do it in the bushes. It’s a little known fact, sharks home on human urine. Be sure not to take it out when you are waist deep and go.                                                        John Popp                                                       in Sanford Fl.

        john, dammit, you blew it!  here we were, about to complete an honest to god, serious, informative, boring, lifeless thread, and here you come with some witty, lively humor.  we just must purge roff of such trash!         your anal retentive buddy,         wayno wayno

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Hire a guide. He will teach you more in one day than you can learn in a year by yourself. sage advise. oh yeah…wear some shoes. stingrays are painful. –Wataugan Walt

Another piece of advice, if you gotta void DON’t do it in the water if you are waist deep. Walk to the shore and do it in the bushes. It’s a little known fact, sharks home on human urine. Be sure not to take it out when you are waist deep and go.                                                         John Popp                                                        in Sanford Fl.

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Hi, I’ll be in the Florida Keys the week of Thanksgiving.  I’m hoping to catch my first Bonefish.  However, I know nothing about the Keys or Bonefish.  To further complicate things I’m a relatively new fly fisherman. So any information/tips would be most welcome.  I’ll be staying in Islamorada.  I do not have a boat so I’ll be wading. Questions. 1. Where should I fish? 2. What time of the day should I fish?  Or is it what part of the tide do I fish? 3. Any pointers on fly fishing for bonefish would be helpful. 4. Any dangers I should know about?  Should I wear shoes?  Is there bad things to step on? Many thanks, David PS I heard Harry Harris park is a good place to fish.  Is this true? Also, I’ll have my Golden Retriever along.  Where can I take her when I’m not fishing?

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Adam    Try this adress …           Glastech Rods 4765 C.T.H. KP Cross Plains, WI 53528 Or call at 608-798-3423 Hope this helps                                 J.D.

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Thursday, October 16, 1997 Please help me with this request.  I run a Small Stream Flyfishing site.  It is non commercial.  I try to answer all questions that are fielded to me that I can.  I have had some inquiry into fiberglass flyrods for small stream situations.

I believe that Angler’s Workshop in Woodland Washington also sells light glass flyrod blanks–at least as light as 3 or 4 weight. "Moderation should never be taken to extremes"

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Angler’s Workshop does have a line of Lamiglass fiberglass blanks in various line weights.  I am also thinking of building a glass rod this winter.  I believe the slow action of glass will approach that of bamboo.  A rod like this is considered a highly specialized rod for a particular situation. Any other suppliers or manufacturers of fiberglass rod blanks? Thanks. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thursday, October 16, 1997 Please help me with this request.  I run a Small Stream Flyfishing site.  It is non commercial.  I try to answer all questions that are fielded to me that I can.  I have had some inquiry into fiberglass flyrods for small stream situations. I believe that Angler’s Workshop in Woodland Washington also sells light glass flyrod blanks–at least as light as 3 or 4 weight. "Moderation should never be taken to extremes"

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Thursday, October 16, 1997 Please help me with this request.  I run a Small Stream Flyfishing site.  It is non commercial.  I try to answer all questions that are fielded to me that I can.  I have had some inquiry into fiberglass flyrods for small and seems to do the job yet it is a heavier line weight than I prefer. Another reader has suggested that I search out Glastech for some small stream specific flyrods made of fiberglass for a review.  I have sent mail to this address and have recieved all posts back. Glastech C/O Dennis Frank 236 Buechner Dr. Mt. Horeb, WI 53572 Does anyone know if this rodmaker is still in exsistance?  Can you help me contact this company?  Thanks in advance… adam Small Stream Flyfishing http://www.swlink.net/~hangwind

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Does anyone have experience with the lower cost flats boats. I live up in the northeast and go striper fishing in fairly protected inshore areas. I am considering the purchase of a flats boat but when a Hewes 16 foot Bonefisher is 18-19K I can not justify it. I have found some lower cost boats such as the Prosport 16 footer, Osborn 17 footer etc that are closer to 11-12K for boat motor and trailer but have not heard of these brands. Any comments would be welcome Any

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Does anyone have experience with the lower cost flats boats. I live up in the northeast and go striper fishing in fairly protected inshore areas. I am considering the purchase of a flats boat but when a Hewes 16 foot Bonefisher is 18-19K I can not justify it. I have found some lower cost boats such as the Prosport 16 footer, Osborn 17 footer etc that are closer to 11-12K for boat motor and trailer but have not heard of these brands. Any comments would be welcome Thank you

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I fish a Mako 19, specially rigged for flyfishing here in the Northeast, and you are welcome to my opinions, however contrary: I see no need for a flats boat up here (long island sound). The mako will get into 12 inches, as opposed to 8, and I see no difference in fishing opportunities. The truth is I can get the mako out on days when the flats boats have to stay home. Most of the flat boat owners I have spoken to up here, when really pressed, will say that they did not buy the appropriate boat. Just my 2 cents!

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Does anyone have experience with the lower cost flats boats. I live up in the northeast and go striper fishing in fairly protected inshore areas. I am considering the purchase of a flats boat but when a Hewes 16 foot Bonefisher is 18-19K I can not justify it. I have found some lower cost boats such as the Prosport 16 footer, Osborn 17 footer etc that are closer to 11-12K for boat motor and trailer but have not heard of these brands. Any comments would be welcome Any

I’ll be looking for a flats boat, soon.  Never had one, but from what I’ve been told it is a good move to buy used boat and get a new engine. Given the huge depreciation they suffer after the first year or so, and the fact the the hulls usually hold up well, and the engine is number one conceern, it seems like a logical approach. Adam

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writes: `Planing a trip tp Baum Lake soon. Any recommendatins as to feel of the lake and suggestions recommended. Is float-yube a good idea for Baum?

Float tubes are fine, but Baum Lake is really more like a slow moving section of Hat Creek than a real lake and there is a current in it.  If you use a tube, use an anchor, and be prepared to walk back from the far end of the lake as it is easier to walk back than to kick your tube back up current.  A pram or better yet a canoe is a better choice if you have one.                                           Good fishing,                                                  Dan Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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`Planing a trip tp Baum Lake soon. Any recommendatins as to feel of the lake and suggestions recommended. Is float-yube a good idea for Baum?

Yes, a float tube, pram or canoe are all good ideas for Baum. Take in some stream fishing in the area too.  But be careful fishing under the powerlines if you visit Hat Creek Powerhouse#2 riffle.  They have a magnetic effect that causes otherwise sane anglers to wade and cast within ten feet of each other. Mark Vinsel http://www.lanminds.com/local/vinnie/gallery.html

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`Planing a trip tp Baum Lake soon. Any recommendatins as to feel of the lake and suggestions recommended. Is float-yube a good idea for Baum?

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I would say that a float tube venture is ok, but there is a good enough flow that it will make getting back a bit tuff. However, there is a trail on one side of the lake that you can return on. Personally, I use a canoe. Always play it safe! Johnny – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – `Planing a trip tp Baum Lake soon. Any recommendatins as to feel of the lake and suggestions recommended. Is float-yube a good idea for Baum?

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i’ve asked about fishing in colorado during the first week of april, and i’ve gotten mixed responses.  some say i’ll need an ice pick, others say there will be good fishing.  i’m confused. i’ll be staying in winter park, but would be willing to drive 1.5-2 hours to get  to a fishable locale.  i’m new to fly fishing, so i probably will be practicing my casting more than catching fish, but who knows?  any tips would be appreciated. anyone in colorado up for some fishing? (or teaching?) thanks, narayan — Narayan Nayar

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Dear Novice, I am an avid flyfisherman in Colorado and fish all season.  Depending on where you go you may encounter ice or clear, cold water.  The South Platte River, although heavily fished, can be fished all year around.  The area around Deckers is the most popular and has "Gold Medal" water.  You can pull out a 10lb rainbow in some of the deeper Holes (Gilpen Trail) or below Cheesman Dam.  Another place to fish is the Blue River in Silverthorne.  Some of the biggest fish are right below the Dam and in back of the outlet stores.  Word has it that their are 15lb Rainbows that are in their.  They feed on Miasis (sp?) Shrimp.  These are all within about 2 hrs or less.  One thing to remember is that the weather can be either beautiful and 50 degrees, or snowing 6-12 inches (especially in Summit county). Those are two places that you can try.  They are popular, but there are many fishing stores around to help you with fly selection and equipment.

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I’m after a good method to clean both floating and sinking flylines? Also does any one have a good method of removing the coil out of lines and making them subtle again (the lines are Cortlands and are only one season old, hence I don’t wish to replace them quite yet). Many thanks,  Steve.

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Steve, Fly lines can be cleaned with mild detergents and water (like dishwashing liquid) to remove most dirt and scum.  If the line is really dirty you can step up to a more concentrated cleaner like 409 or Fantastic.  Quality fly line coatings are PVC based and not adversely effected by common cleaning materials.  We even use lacquer thinner to clean the tar and dirt off of the "street" lines used for rod demos here at the shop without adverse effect, although I wouldn’t recommend it unless absolutely necessary. After cleaning, the line should be treated with a good line dressing to rejuvinate the surface lubricants and increase shootability.  The line dressing may also help increase the suppleness of your line and reduce coiling. Good Luck! Clay

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The best flyline cleaner we have found is distributed by Umpqua Feather Merchants and is called "Glide." Glide not only cleans the dirt and grime off of the line but it also leaves a slick coating behind which adds to the shootability of your line. They also sell plastic boxes with foam inserts that you pull your line thorugh to strip the dirt and coat the line. The whole setup will run you about ten bucks. Let me know if you’re having trouble finding it. As far as coils go, I imagine that you’re referring to your sinking line primarily. I have yet to find a full proof method for combatting this problem. My only reccomendation is to not use a leather leader straightener because you can’t tell how much heat/friction you’re generating and can easily melt the exterior coating on your lines. Good Luck and I’m anxious to hear if you receive any responses helping to cure this problem. Western Rivers Flyfisher {full service fly shop and outfitter} 867 East 900 South – SLC, UT 84105 (800)545-4312~~(801)521-6424~~fax(801)521-6329 Green River reports, Utah fishing conditions, and statewide guide info.

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The best flyline cleaner we have found is distributed by Umpqua Feather Merchants and is called "Glide." …. line. The whole setup will run you about ten bucks. Let me know if you’re having trouble finding it. Western Rivers Flyfisher {full service fly shop and outfitter}

And I think I know where… I was at the Delaware River Club last weekend and I asked Bob Wills about a cleaner.  He said, "wanna see what I use?" and he held up a Armoral sprayer and then he gave me a couple of the Cortland pads. That’s that kind of treatment that will keep me coming back to a flyshop. — John Fereira Isis Distributed Systems  Ithaca, NY

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[snipped the recommendation on line cleaner] As far as coils go, I imagine that you’re referring to your sinking line primarily. I have yet to find a full proof method for combatting this problem. My only reccomendation is to not use a leather leader straightener because you can’t tell how much heat/friction you’re generating and can easily melt the exterior coating on your lines. Good Luck and I’m anxious to hear if you receive any responses helping to cure this problem.

I’ve found that the only way to take the "coil" out of fly lines – especially in with saltwater lines in cold weather – is to "stretch" the line out. I just grab about 4-5 feet of line between both hands, build up some stretching force – holding it for a few seconds – then slide the line along to do the next 4-5 feet, until I’ve gotten about 60-70 feet of the line straightened out. Tedious to be sure, but it works, and AFAIK there’s no risk to damaging the line. It’s well worth the 5 or so minutes it takes to stretch out the "memory"… <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp.    Alpha Server Engineering  < <         "Read this and nobody gets hurt ;^)"         < <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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My vote for a great fly line cleaner goes to good ol’ Armor All.  The   stuff works great to clean and float your line. It also lubricates the   line nicely, so your line really screams through the guides,  making your casts easier and farther.  You can buy a large size bottle in the auto   section of K mart, Walmart, etc., for just a few dollars, and it will   last you for years.  I keep a small plastic squirt bottle filled and in   my vest, along with a small rag to apply it. Dale Owens

ArmorAll works fine short term, but long term causes premature line failure.  As I understand the process, AA accelerates the built in leaching process of the plasticizers in the line material.  Note that in the past many people used ArmorAll for lines AND waders (Seal Dris) with initial positive results from appearance point of view but detrimental results to longevity.                         Mike in PDX                "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                                            Tom McGuane

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Jon,         I had one reply that reccomended laying my line out in the sun for an hour or so and then giving it a gentle strech, simple and it worked a treat.  Thanks for the info re flyline cleaner, I ended up giving them a wash in a mild Lissapol (non-ionic detergent) and warm water solution, it seemed to remove the dirt and old silicone quite well, I then redressed the dry line with silicone and its as good as new.                                                  Steve Jackson                                                  Canberra, Australia

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I understand from my lunch buddies that when House Speaker Newt Gingrich was in New Hampshire this past weekend he was looking for a moose but got an earful from a fly fisherman.   Anyone know the story?

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who cares ?

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 who cares ?

One thing I can say for the Fly Fishermen I know.. They are for the most part ‘Blunt’. My hat’s off to the Flyman who told the news exactly what he thought about Newt. Newt… Hummmm! Wonder what you could catch with a Newt on a hook? Tight Lines Mike

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writes:  who cares ? Newt. Newt… Hummmm! Wonder what you could catch with a Newt on a hook?

Snags and bottom-feeders. — -Wayne Trzyna

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writes:  who cares ? One thing I can say for the Fly Fishermen I know.. They are for the most part ‘Blunt’. My hat’s off to the Flyman who told the news exactly what he thought about Newt. Newt… Hummmm! Wonder what you could catch with a Newt on a hook? Tight Lines Mike

Don’t know, but I caught a newt with an Ausable Wulff in a mountain pond a few weeks back!

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Newt may not be the smoothest of characters but he is finally being honest with our tax dollar.

When you no longer have any place to fish, because the esteemed Mr Gingrich has sold off all the public lands, you’ll recognize him for what he is: a self-serving, evil man. — -Wayne Trzyna

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Newt may not be the smoothest of  characters but he is finally being honest with our tax dollar.  When you no longer have any place to fish, because the esteemed Mr Gingrich  has sold off all the public lands, you’ll recognize him for what he is:  a self-serving, evil man.  –  -Wayne Trzyna

Wayne, are you discribing Newt or Rush? It’s not the selling of Public Lands that concern me as much as a possible roll-back of the clean air act that will effect both Public and Private Fisheries. Misha

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Firstly, I "genuflect" to no one, especially an elected official.  He’s a public servant and it’s his job to listen to what the public has to say (whether it be rude, offensive, foul or whatever).  Putting up with the public and criticism goes along with the territory. Secondly, if elected officials were "pistol whipped" and "hog tied" each time they said something off color, there would be a lot of congressmen and presidents with sore heads, wrists and ankles. Jim Davis Philadelphia, PA Temple University Why don’t you girls take this CRAP to the proper forum…this isn’t the place for petty politics.

Moreover, it isn’t the place for sexist comments.  Have some respect, Donald. Jim Davis Philadelphia, PA Temple University

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what was said

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Face it,  if we are going to "hog tie", Hillbilly Bill would only have stumps remaining for extremities!!  Mr. Newt may not be the smoothest of characters but he is finally being honest with our tax dollar.    We may not all agree with the decisions being made concerning the environment but more can be done on a grass roots level to maintain our rivers than anything our now bankrupt Uncle Sam could or can ever do!

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Wait a minute. A Pinko-Liberal Vermonter flyfisher, who is afraid of the truth, trashed Newt? Tell me the story! I gotta hear it? Does Newt flyfish? Or throw grenades into hatcheries?

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 Wait a minute. A Pinko-Liberal Vermonter flyfisher, who is afraid of the  truth, trashed Newt? Tell me the story! I gotta hear it? Does Newt  flyfish? Or throw grenades into hatcheries?

Grenades into the Hatcheries is more like it.. A Pinko-Liberal Misha

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Hummmm! Wonder what you could catch with a Newt on a hook? Tight Lines Mike Don’t know, but I caught a newt with an Ausable Wulff in a mountain pond a few weeks back!

I hope this time you forgot about catch and release. I expect that Gingrich was looking to dynamite some trout, before anyone could complain about his PAC donors dumping cyanide-laced mine tailings in the creek.  Anybody who can make Bob Dole appear a decent human being by comparison IS all bad. Catch and do the right thing,                                 Phil Holt

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The "puke" in the river should have kept his mouth shut and showed some respect!   Well put. I agree that everybody should genuflect in the presence of elected officials, even if we did not elect them. It should make no difference to me that Gingrich helped pass HR 961, believes that water pollution is a problem invented in a liberal Washington D.C. think tank, and wants to roll back environmental legislation so that corporate America can steward public lands. That Puke should be hog-tied and pistol-whipped for disrespecting an elected official. db

db, Firstly, I "genuflect" to no one, especially an elected official.  He’s a public servant and it’s his job to listen to what the public has to say (whether it be rude, offensive, foul or whatever).  Putting up with the public and criticism goes along with the territory. Secondly, if elected officials were "pistol whipped" and "hog tied" each time they said something off color, there would be a lot of congressmen and presidents with sore heads, wrists and ankles. Jim Davis Philadelphia, PA Temple University

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the fisherman expressed his displeasure with Newt.  He stated that Newt is mean spirited.  He also stated that the water he was fishing in would be poluted soon if the the "clean water" standards proposed by Newt’s buddies is passed.  Sounds fair to me.      Newt was a gentleman.  His response " He obviously is not from new Hampshire.  I hope that he catches some fish."      He was a teacher from Vermont.

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: I understand from my lunch buddies that when House Speaker Newt Gingrich : was in New Hampshire this past weekend he was looking for a moose but got : an earful from a fly fisherman.   Anyone know the story?    He was a Pinko-Liberal teacher from Vermont who’s afraid of the TRUTH.   Tallyho !   Alphs Kilo

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I think the puke was on the bank, not in the river…..

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The "puke" in the river should have kept his mouth shut and showed some respect!  

Well put. I agree that everybody should genuflect in the presence of elected officials, even if we did not elect them. It should make no difference to me that Gingrich helped pass HR 961, believes that water pollution is a problem invented in a liberal Washington D.C. think tank, and wants to roll back environmental legislation so that corporate America can steward public lands. That Puke should be hog-tied and pistol-whipped for disrespecting an elected official. db

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I care.  Newt was instrumental in pushing HR961, the Dirty Water Bill through the house.  He needed an earfull and more……

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All this talk of newt makes me dis-in-Gingriched… Dan Foster

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The "puke" in the river should have kept his mouth shut and showed some respect!  

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The "puke" in the river should have kept his mouth shut and showed some respect!  

Hey…isn’t that what America’s all about. Free speech. From what I read from the excerpts of this encounter, he wasn’t obscene or demeaning. He just told it like it was. When we write our congressional representatives, we wonder if our message is getting through. Well on this day his voice was certainly heard!

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The "puke" in the river should have kept his mouth shut and showed some respect!   Hey…isn’t that what America’s all about. Free speech. From what I read from the excerpts of this encounter, he wasn’t obscene or demeaning. He just told it like it was. When we write our congressional representatives, we wonder if our message is getting through. Well on this day his voice was certainly heard!

Did the guy get out of the river to say it, or is yelling over water better ?   Harry

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 who cares ? One thing I can say for the Fly Fishermen I know.. They are for the most part ‘Blunt’. My hat’s off to the Flyman who told the news exactly what he thought about Newt. Newt… Hummmm! Wonder what you could catch with a Newt on a hook?

I believe this event happened up on the Androscoggin in Errol, between the Gauge House pool (below the Errol Dam) and the Rt 26 bridge (one of my favorite stretches to spend an afternoon going after ‘bows, browns, and landlockers). The honors went to a  flyfisher from Vermont (figures – it surely wouldn’t have been anyone from Cow Hampster – who’d likely not bother to stop fishing long enough to give a Newt the time of day ;^)… When I read this story I couldn’t help but smile… <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp.    Alpha Server Engineering  < <           "Read this and nobody gets hurt"           < <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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 Don’t know, but I caught a newt with an Ausable Wulff in a mountain  pond a few weeks back!

You should have placed him on a hook. You may not have caught anything, but the satisfaction of putting Newt on a hook would have been worth it.;-) But then Newts are a protected species isn’t it? Tight Lines Misha

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