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If a person were to find themselves in Puerto Vallarta for a week, how, and where would one go about arranging to fly fish?  What equipment would you be able (or should) take with you?  What does a charter cost?  etc. Thanks, Steve

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I’d take a 10 or 9 wt.  Prefer at 10.  Take a sinking line and a floater and a basket.  Take flies surf fishermen use in california and big poppers.  You may not be able to find an experienced fly guide but you can catch fish. Possibilities should include Roosters, and Dorado,  Robalo (Snook),  Corvina (like a Red but in the surf and tricker.)  You may have to guide the guide but you should be able to find a Panga and a guia who can find fish.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If a person were to find themselves in Puerto Vallarta for a week, how, and where would one go about arranging to fly fish?  What equipment would you be able (or should) take with you?  What does a charter cost?  etc. Thanks, Steve

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MR  Neeley  There are a number of charter boats at PV . You  will truely be in a fishing paradise . PLEASE take advantage of every moment .,  I have seen little kids go out on dugout like  canoes and catch 20 pound dolphin , on hand lines . The other pratice it for the locals to go out in their long boats with nets streches inbetween the boats . they can   vacumm a bay in a matter of hours . the bottom there is rocky , with the shore line with small pebbles . and some sand thrown in too . In addition to a fly rod i would bring a nice  light tackle spin outfit …and a good  a medium action bait reel.. i use the penn 965 . For Fly fishing i would  go to a  a surfing hot spot north of town called Punta de Mita .  there is a little bay right at the point . .  Wade out like 100 yards , on the rocky  bottom , and climb on top on one of the many bolders in the surf . In the incoming tide you can cast 360 degrees above and out of the water . It is unlimited what you can catch there in about 4 feet of water , but it includes , rock bass , little tuna , dolphin , and tarpon . I have seen sharks there also . The wave will come in and the water will be 6 feet deep , and as it passes  the water level will drop 2 feet. I have had the most luck in a incoming tide . In fact it is like a light switch .  Plug fishing is really great too .I like the small two gang  hook mirrorlures . The bottom is rocky , you have to have a very tough leader . Also , it is a long walk out , be sure to talk everything you need , cause it takes a while to walk back inshore .  Also just north of town , where  the ferry docks are , there is a great jetty , which is good for typical jetty fishig .   The boats there are , or have been quite old , all wood , look like they were made in the 30’s . BUT  this is slowly getting better. But their fishing gear on the boat is all very heavy duty . They are great guys , and will fish the way you want if you want to tease a fish and cast a fly at it . The marlin are only a few miles off shore .  This is a paradise , research it , and make the most out of your trip . Hale Savannah

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Hey, maybe when he gets it through his head that a batch of re-tread rightwingnuts won’t cut it, he will get serious and nominate some more patriots like Powell and some real Republicans.

I thought it was pretty funny when he nominated a guy for Secretary of Energy who last year voted to abolish the Department of Energy. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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I was talking about Chavez, Dave, *not* Gail Norton. JR – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well anyway, It is sad when a person with just the hint of lesbian White Slavery in her background can’t serve in the Cabinet.

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Men laugh: weenies snicker.

Dave, can you recommend a good urologist? I ask because although I have no trouble laughing, I have yet to hear my weenie snicker. I *have* had a few people snicker at my weenie, but I suspect that’s not what you mean. –Steve

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Zimbo? You mean your weenie doesn’t snicker? Impossible! All weenies snicker man! You don’t need a urologist, you may need a Dick Doc. Here’s an anthropomorphic home procedure that will tell you for sure. First find an older, spring operated time piece. Next, take it into a quiet room and put your "thang" on the time piece. Then listen. Dave "Lookit that man mommy, he has 5 separate toes on each foot! Don’t stare Honey, its not polite. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Men laugh: weenies snicker. Dave, can you recommend a good urologist? I ask because although I have no trouble laughing, I have yet to hear my weenie snicker. I *have* had a few people snicker at my weenie, but I suspect that’s not what you mean. –Steve

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Pretty photo.  You guys have some privacy around your spread. Nice! I couldn’t see anything, footprints or wheel tracks, which I suppose makes your point. I think dry is the key here.

I did a backpacking trip in the Superstition Wilderness, east of Phoenix, a couple of years ago Willi.  Death Valley may be drier, but I suspect that few other places in the U.S. are.  This wilderness area is inside the Tonto National Forest (if memory serves) and is administered by the USFS.  There is a network of trails throughout the area; an ever changing network.  In six days on the trail I passed numerous signs indicating that various segments of trail were "CLOSED!".  The closures are an effort to allow areas to recover from the damage (sometimes very severe) done by hikers and or equestrians, depending on the usage allowed on given segments.  No ATVS.  Just feet. Anyone who is interested shouldn’t have a hard time finding loads of material on areas that are closed to foot traffic for……guess what reason. Wolfgang

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It’s in times like this I wonder why you ever use the phrase "shiv a git"…

Did I ever tell you about that time in the pen down in Atlanta when I arrived on the scene about four seconds after a git got shivved?  Stuck once, right through the heart….big guy too, loads of blood.  Sort of a lovers spat kinda thingy.  In retrospect it reminds me a lot of here. No wonder I love this place!     Wolfgang no gangsta my own self, but seen plenty

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… it depends on how you define "negative."  As many have pointed out, both horses’ hooves and human feet/shoes leave "evidence" ranging from a mere rapidly disappearing footprint to permanent "damage."  The only way to prevent this "negative" impact is ban everything and everybody, period, and that hardly seems a solution.

Wheeled devices are often banned because they cause long linear paths of compacted soil which can create runoff problems and/or slow natural biological processes that pass through the soil layer. Human feet and horse hooves by contrast create disconncted compacted spots (although in the extreme, heavy human traffic is nearly as bad). Thomas Gilg

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Dean Men laugh: weenies snicker. Dave

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Dave, tell me you didn’t snicker just a bit over Chavez’s withdrawal today.  Or was that a gleeful guffaw? JR – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dean Men laugh: weenies snicker. Dave

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JR No, it just saddens me (SNICKER) when someone like Ms Chavez, selected by a President select, who is known by his handlers as a good judge of managerial talent, cannot bring her special talents for uniting the country around issues of race . . . Oh? You mean she is known for baiting minorities? Well lets pass on that. Well, you know, a person well known for her understanding of the Hispanic-American situation . . . OH? you mean she can’t actually speak or understand Spanish?  Is that why she "didn’t know" that the Guatemalan lady was an illegal? Oh well lets move on. (SNICKER) I mean she had the lady living in her house as an act of kindness, you can understand that? Oh, you mean its kinda like the Barney Frank thing? No! I find that hard to believe! (SNICKER) Well anyway, It is sad when a person with just the hint of lesbian White Slavery in her background can’t serve in the Cabinet. A real shame, considering the things we will learn next week about the rest of the rogues gallery of nominees. Hey, maybe when he gets it through his head that a batch of re-tread rightwingnuts won’t cut it, he will get serious and nominate some more patriots like Powell and some real Republicans. Dave McCain (and Feingold too), now more than ever.

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I have posted a picture as described to Dave LaCourse on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing un the heading "ATV Damage?".  Note that the footprints are more readily visible than the ATV tracks.  AGAIN – I AM NOT offering a blanket endorsement of ATVs, but simply providing "the rest of the story," as it were.

Pretty photo.  You guys have some privacy around your spread. Nice! I couldn’t see anything, footprints or wheel tracks, which I suppose makes your point. I think dry is the key here. Willi

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WOW! Amazing! He’s not even ascended to the oval office and already they are coming out of the woodwork with the specious arguments.  I can already see the White House Press Releases: "Human Feet Major Environmental Problem, Obscure Texas College to get fat research grant to provide evidence that ATV industry is falsely blamed." "Close Presidential friend from Midland to lead effort." Reminds me of the Reagan era stuff on how trees were the real polluters! Dave

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -RDean writes: I have posted a picture as described to Dave LaCourse on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing un the heading "ATV Damage?".  Note that the footprints are more readily visible than the ATV tracks.  AGAIN – I AM NOT offering a blanket endorsement of ATVs, but simply providing "the rest of the story," as it were. TC, R Bwaaaahahahahaha.  I am so *honored*, Richard. But,  I will stick with what I have done (personally on atvs), what I have seen, and willi’s photos.  Can you read?  Read this:  Wheels driven by a gasoline engine in wilderness territory will leave a negative impact on the land, no fuckin’ "ifs, ands, or buts". PERIOD.  And for you to say otherwise is the most stupid,  ludicrous thing ever said!

<G  Are you now claiming that the ground knows what powering the wheels, or are you trying justify human-powered bikes?  Ever seen a "BMX" track?  Oh, wait – is Orvis selling hoverbikes <G?   And again, it depends on how you define "negative."  As many have pointed out, both horses’ hooves and human feet/shoes leave "evidence" ranging from a mere rapidly disappearing footprint to permanent "damage."  The only way to prevent this "negative" impact is ban everything and everybody, period, and that hardly seems a solution. TC, R

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I have posted a picture as described to Dave LaCourse on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing un the heading "ATV Damage?".  Note that the footprints are more readily visible than the ATV tracks.  AGAIN – I AM NOT offering a blanket endorsement of ATVs, but simply providing "the rest of the story," as it were. Pretty photo.  You guys have some privacy around your spread. Nice!

Thanks.  That’s just the backyard <G. I couldn’t see anything, footprints or wheel tracks, which I suppose makes your point. I think dry is the key here.

Well, they are both there, I wish you had been able to see them – if you to the far left, right behind the gate, you’ll see the footprints, and the tracks are in the front, along the fenceline, across most of the picture.  When this was taken, the tracks were not the intended subject.  FWIW, the ground wasn’t all that dry as there had been typical Panhandle weather, with melting and more snow, melting more snow, etc. TC, R

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<SNICKER

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RDean writes: G  Are you now claiming that the ground knows what powering the wheels, or are you trying justify human-powered bikes?  Ever seen a "BMX" track?  Oh, wait – is Orvis selling hoverbikes <G?  

You really can’t read, can you?  Where did I say anything like the above.  I am aware that ATVs do damage to the ground they travel over.  I’ve riddent them and see what they do.  There is a place for them, Dean, but not in wilderness land.  And what the fuck does Orvis have to do with this?   You know when you called me that time at  1 a.m in the morning and I told you I was in bed sleeping?  And you were totally surprised that anyone would be sleeping at 1 in the morning.  Do you remember that?  At the time I thought you were some kind of fuckin’ nut case.  Now I am convinced.  Go fishing, Richard. Take your fly rod, if you own one, and go fishing.  It will get the kinks out of your ass.  You do fish, don’t you, Richard. Dave LaCourse Pirate and Bottom Dweller

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Bwaaaahahahahaha.  I am so *honored*, Richard. But,  I will stick with what I have done (personally on atvs), what I have seen, and willi’s photos.  Can you read?  Read this:  Wheels driven by a gasoline engine in wilderness territory will leave a negative impact on the land, no fuckin’ "ifs, ands, or buts". PERIOD.  And for you to say otherwise is the most stupid,  ludicrous thing ever said!

It’s in times like this I wonder why you ever use the phrase "shiv a git"… /daytripper

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RDean writes: G  Are you now claiming that the ground knows what powering the wheels, or are you trying justify human-powered bikes?  Ever seen a "BMX" track?  Oh, wait – is Orvis selling hoverbikes <G?   You really can’t read, can you?  Where did I say anything like the above.  

During this thread, you have said (all emphasis added): "Introduce _any wheeled vehicle_ to an environment where it has never been before and you will have a negative impact on that invironment. Period!  Fuckin’ Period!  To think otherwise is ludicrous." But later: "I have trouble walking because of the pain in my feet, but I’ll be damned if I would drive a noisy, smoky ATV into some pristine back country.  _I might ride my bike, however._" And then you said repeatedly about various issues that might result in "damage": "Why even have the *chance* that it could happen." And finally: "_I will stick with what I have done (personally on atvs), what I have seen, and willi’s photos_.  Can you read?  Read this:  _Wheels driven by a gasoline engine_ in wilderness territory will leave a negative impact on the land, no fuckin’ "ifs, ands, or buts". PERIOD.  And for you to say otherwise is the most stupid,  ludicrous thing ever said!" I am aware that ATVs do damage to the ground they travel over.  I’ve riddent them and see what they do.  There is a place for them, Dean, but not in wilderness land.  

And again, I have never claimed they should be allowed everywhere, or, IIRC, even _anywhere_ on public lands.  I have simply said that they _can_ be operated without doing any more physical damage than people, horses, bikes, etc.  And that is based on many miles on all sorts of terrain on or in  ATVs, horses, bikes, feet, trucks, tractors, dozers, loaders, etc.  It is also based on having any damage caused to result, directly or indirectly, in money right out of my pocket in the form of lost wheat, grass, timber, etc.   Of course, one could construe a single footprint or a single damaged blade of grass in 1000 sections as "damage," but under such construction, then _nothing_, including people, should be allowed in that area. And what the fuck does Orvis have to do with this?

It was a joke… You know when you called me that time at  1 a.m in the morning and I told you I was in bed sleeping?  And you were totally surprised that anyone would be sleeping at 1 in the morning.  Do you remember that?  

Er, no.  I do remember calling you at what turned out to be, IIRC, about 11-11:30 your time because I had you confused with someone in a different time zone – again, IIRC, you were changing around your email address or something similar.   I apologized immediately, and offered to call you the next day, but you said don’t worry about it, and proceeded with the conversation.  As far as what surprises me, very little does, but I wouldn’t knowingly call someone unexpectedly after about 9:30 or 10 to simply "chat." At the time I thought you were some kind of fuckin’ nut case.  Now I am convinced.  

Well, I guess, it’s like they say – that’s why there’s chocolate and vanilla… Go fishing, Richard. Take your fly rod, if you own one, and go fishing.  

What’s a fly rod?  Is that one of them cane poles with the funny reel on the ass-end?  I think I got one lying around somewhere… It will get the kinks out of your ass.

Well, thanks for your concern, but my ass is completely unkinked…   You do fish, don’t you, Richard.

And in some interesting places, too… TC, R

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I have posted a picture as described to Dave LaCourse on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing un the heading "ATV Damage?".  Note that the footprints are more readily visible than the ATV tracks.  AGAIN – I AM NOT offering a blanket endorsement of ATVs, but simply providing "the rest of the story," as it were. TC, R

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RDean writes: I have posted a picture as described to Dave LaCourse on alt.binaries.pictures.fishing un the heading "ATV Damage?".  Note that the footprints are more readily visible than the ATV tracks.  AGAIN – I AM NOT offering a blanket endorsement of ATVs, but simply providing "the rest of the story," as it were. TC, R

Bwaaaahahahahaha.  I am so *honored*, Richard. But,  I will stick with what I have done (personally on atvs), what I have seen, and willi’s photos.  Can you read?  Read this:  Wheels driven by a gasoline engine in wilderness territory will leave a negative impact on the land, no fuckin’ "ifs, ands, or buts". PERIOD.  And for you to say otherwise is the most stupid,  ludicrous thing ever said! Dave LaCourse Pirate and Bottom Dweller

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Greetings fellow Albertan, Are you using sniffer software to do that? If so, which application?

Various tools. (You can find all manner of fairly decent stuff as shareware on sites like winfiles.com and download.com. For example… Here’s the trace of the server that you posted from… Real-time report for srv1.calcna.ab.ca [198.161.243.11] (70% done) Analysis: Node ’srv1.calcna.ab.ca’ was found in 28 hops (TTL=237). It is a HTTP server (running NCSA/1.5). | Hop | Err | IP Address     | Node Name                        | Location                | ms  | Graph      | Network                         | | 0   |     | 10.1.1.4       | KSHPHL-NB123                     | …                     |     |            | (private use)                  | | 1   | 6   |                |                                  |                         |     |            |                                | | 9   |     | 4.0.1.25       | h2-1-0.nyc1-br2.bbnplanet.net    | New | 10  |     | 4.0.2.182      | h3-0-0.nyc4-br2.bbnplanet.net    | New York, NY, USA       | 87  |  x-        | BBN Planet                     | | 11  |     | 4.0.2.130      | p2-3.nyc4-nbr3.bbnplanet.net     | New York, NY, USA       | 76  | -x-        | BBN Planet                     | | 12  |     | 4.24.4.237     | p4-1.bstnma1-ba2.bbnplanet.net   | –                       | 77  |  x-        | BBN Planet                     | | 13  |     | 4.24.7.121     | p7-0.bstnma1-br2.bbnplanet.net   | –                       | 54  | -x         | BBN Planet                     | | 14  |     | 4.0.1.245      | p4-0.washdc3-br1.bbnplanet.net   | Washington, DC, USA     | 61  |  x         | BBN Planet                     | | 15  |     | 4.24.4.146     | p3-0.washdc3-br2.bbnplanet.net   | Washington, DC, USA     | 58  |  x         | BBN Planet                     | | 16  |     | 4.24.5.134     | p3-0.lsanca1-br2.bbnplanet.net   | –                       | 133 |   x-       | BBN Planet                     | | 17  |     | 4.24.4.13      | p2-0.lsanca1-br1.bbnplanet.net   | –                       | 140 |   -x       | BBN Planet                     | | 18  |     | 4.0.6.38       | p4-0.evrtwa1-ba1.bbnplanet.net   | –                       | 150 |    x       | BBN Planet                     | | 19  |     | 4.24.5.102     | p1-0.evrtwa1-cr1.bbnplanet.net   | –                       | 247 |    –x–   | BBN Planet                     | | 20  |     | 4.24.125.50    | p0-0.bctel.bbnplanet.net         | –                       | 230 |    –x-    | BBN Planet                     | | 21  |     | 209.53.75.93   | inetgw4-s1.bctel.net             | ?(Canada)               | 183 |    -x      | BC TEL Advanced Communications | | 22  |     | 204.174.218.37 | tac-i4-pos1.bctel.net            |                         | 232 |     -x     | ?204.174.218.0                 | | 23  |     | 205.233.111.82 | CLGR01-CORR01.tac.net            | ?Calgary, AL, Canada    | 218 |     x-     | AGT Advanced Communications     | | 24  |     | 192.168.3.26   | –                                | …                     | 260 |     -x-    | (private use)                  | | 25  |     | 192.168.47.3   | –                                | …                     | 228 |     x-     | (private use)                  | | 26  |     | 136.159.86.4   | –                                |                         | 223 |     x-     | ?136.159.86.0                  | | 27  | 5   |                |                                  |                         |     |            |                                | | 28  |     | 198.161.243.11 | srv1.calcna.ab.ca                | ?Calgary, AL, Canada    | 225 |     x-     | Calgary Free-Net Association   | You’ll have to re-format it to fit though. From this information I can tell that you’re in Calgary (my old hometown!) and using one of the freenet servers. (Is that still around?!?) Once I know this I can run smaller server to constantly monitor what the comes out of this server. (I can’t really divulge this as it can be used maliciously and is not something you just give out to john q. public) During this monitoring I’d use a process called stateful inspection to look at packets coming from a target address range and see if I could actually isolate the users IP. The I would re-train the "mole" towards this address and see if I could re-construct what was happening and maybe even do packet re-assebly to snoop on what’s being done. If they’re not running SSL then it’s usually very easy to do this. With SSL it’s a bit trickier. Would that be www.COMCAST.net ?

distribute. I remember when the cable modem service first came online they tried to make a go of it on their own but it did not work out too good. The they went over to @HOME. Heck, This is a fishing NG not a how to be a deliquent NG… (GRIN) the latest project is to find a way to track really successful fly fishermen to find out where their "honey holes" are! <wink — Michael Era

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Anybody here have experiance with the (made in Argentina) White River flyreels sold by Bass Proshops?  I’m interested in the largest model with disc drag and 300 yard backing capacity for some saltwater flyfishing on a budget.  They retail for $59.99.  Thanks for the input. Spy in Hawaii

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Anybody here have experiance with the (made in Argentina) White River flyreels sold by Bass Proshops?  I’m interested in the largest model with disc drag and 300 yard backing capacity for some saltwater flyfishing on a budget.  They retail for $59.99.  Thanks for the input. Spy in Hawaii

Spy, I hope for your sake that you never hook a "big" fish on any $59.99 "Saltwater reel". I suspect it will melt on your rod like m&m’s in your mouth. However, I admit I’m not familiar with the brand, so I could be completely wrong….been there a few times. I’d shop around. You always get what you pay for. Walt —          The Blue Ridge Book Gallery      P.O. Box 5112  Banner Elk, NC 28604 http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS/HOME.HTM

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I am looking for a literary agent to represent a book that I am writing for publication.  Any suggestions?  Thanks a bunch.  I never forget those who help me. — Flyfish NC                                                   Gordon Churchill                                        http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/3853                                                                     Dragon’s Hope Publishing Heidi Dragon Churchill                                               Business cards, ad design, forms and all manner of desktop publishing.      

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I have not failed  I am a writter of peotry.  Need publishcation

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[snip] : I guess they figure the writing chores should be left lot the giants of : the industry, like Howard Stern and Rush Limbaugh.  <sigh I feel for ya.  But writers like Stern aren’t the really sad cases.  You may not like him, but he has talent.  You try talking off the top of your head every day and maintaining the attention of a million listeners.  I have a hard time some days with 200 in a classroom, and they pay to be there.  Stern can tell a story. The real sad ones are the cases like this woman bomber pilot recently resigned from the Air Force.  She disobeys a direct order from her superior and gets a large advance to write a book about it.  Shameless. The author, the publisher and the editor. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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I am looking for a literary agent to represent a book that I am writing for publication.  Any suggestions?  Thanks a bunch.  I never forget those who help me. — Flyfish NC Gordon Churchill                                        http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Rapids/3853

Gordon, I’ve been trying to get an agent to read my novel "Blue Ice" for over a year.  I’ve got 75 rejections, and only a handful (5) even accepted the first 25 manuscript pages.  I have no idea how many of those actually even read the first page. I guess they figure the writing chores should be left lot the giants of the industry, like Howard Stern and Rush Limbaugh.  <sigh As a musician friend frequently reminds me that all I need to do is get up in that bell tower with my deer rifle, and I’ll have a book deal within 48 hours.   Yes, I’m cynical.  I’m probably also paranoid.  But then, just because you’re paranoid, doesn’t mean they aren’t all out to get you. — Mark Cahill For E-mail remove the _Remove_This from the reply to address. http://www.geocities.com/Baja/3297/fishing.htm Mark Cahill’s Fishing New England – Daily Fishing News http://www.reel-time.com/ The Internet Journal of Saltwater Fly Fishing – Metropolitan Boston Regional Editor

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I have a few more beginner questions for everyone.  You’ve been very helpful in the past, and I appreciate that. After sending a dry fly over a trout, and getting a strike but not being able to set the hook (I need to work on that a bit), I wonder if the trout will in general strike again on the same fly, or does should one try elsewhere, since the fish just encountered a hook and spat it out.  Comments? Second.  While looking at a trout this weekend, I noticed a flap on its face, between what I would call the "lip" and "cheek".  This seems to be a natural feature, but I haven’t seen (or noticed) it on other types of fish.  Can someone tell my why it’s there, and what the trout uses it for? Thanks db   — ****** Derek Berwald

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After sending a dry fly over a trout, and getting a strike but not being able to set the hook (I need to work on that a bit), I wonder if the trout will in general strike again on the same fly, or does should one try elsewhere, since the fish just encountered a hook and spat it out.  Comments?

Hi Derek, Yes a fish will come back for a second shot on some occasions.  It may not have spit the hook our.  It’s possible you were too fast on the strike and pulled it away at the last minute.  If you are striking fast this could be the problem.  To set a hook, it’s always better to raise your rod rather than yank it into the next county.  Your success could very well go up. Regarding you next question, I’ll leave than for one of the experts in that areana. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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After sending a dry fly over a trout, and getting a strike but not being able to set the hook (I need to work on that a bit), I wonder if the trout will in general strike again on the same fly, or does should one try elsewhere, since the fish just encountered a hook and spat it out.  Comments?

The dumb, backcountry, cutts I was catching last weekend in a lake deep in the Wind Rivers would not only hit my wooly bugger more than once, they would sometimes hit it after being hooked and played for a second or two!  On the other hand, they wouldn’t hit a dry fly twice. More "educated" street-wise fish won’t hit the wooly bugger twice. Fish will often hit bait repeatedly. — -Wayne Trzyna

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Yes a fish will come back for a second shot on some occasions.  It may not have spit the hook our.  It’s possible you were too fast on the strike and pulled it away at the last minute.  If you are striking fast this could be the problem.  To set a hook, it’s always better to raise your rod rather than yank it into the next county.  Your success could very well go up.

I have yanked more flys away from fish than actually hooked up fish. I get really bad on ponds where you can watch the fish come up and take the fly (or nymph). carl carl

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Does Anyone know any good flyfishing rivers/lakes in or near Halifax, NovaScotia? I will be traveling there for about two weeks and would like to know if there even is flyfishing there. Please E-mail me back or just posting it up might be good if I ever see it again.                        Thanx JT

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Does Anyone know any good flyfishing rivers/lakes in or near Halifax, NovaScotia? I will be traveling there for about two weeks and would like to know if there even is flyfishing there. Please E-mail me back or just posting it up might be good if I ever see it again.                       Thanx JT

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I’ve been out with a pulled back for over one month now!  I pulled it setting up my research project up in the Blue Ridge.  How’s the fly fishing going in VA?  What hatches have come off?  Any successful fishing reports? Thank, steve

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Well, smallmouth fishing in the northern half of the state has been pretty lame due to an unusually wet spring and high water. But I had a great day in May catching native brookies in Shenandoah National Park! Scott W.

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Fishing has gone from poor to worse here at least in northern parts of Virginia since Memorial day. We’ve had record rains and flash flooding. Fishing was fairly good for a short spell about a week ago, but then the rains hit AGAIN!!! Keith in Waterford, VA

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May be ordered from Blu Ribbon Flies in W. Yellowstone.                         Mike in PDX                "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                                            Tom McGuane

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You can find it here and there. Check with Donegals and Castle Arms. Also, Hunters sells some silk floss. I use guderbrod’s (sp) silk. It’s inexpesive ($2-2.5 per spool) and does the job just fine. Charles (Chuck) Abbott      The MITRE Corporation "There is not a single blackfly in the Adirondacks. All are married and have large families." Henry Wells

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Dave Hughes mentions this as the best body material for soft hackles.  Does anyone know a mail order source for this rare stuff?

National Feather-Craft in St. Louis carries the silk in a variety of colors and is a large mail order house so it is easy to have them ship to you. For soft hackle flies you most likely want the silk thread (Gosmer) as opposed to the silk floss (stout). You can reach National Feather-Craft at 800-659-1707.

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 I’m trying to tie size 20-26 midge drys. I can’t find hackle any smaller than 20 on even the most primium grade necks. I am now using darlone and other synthetic materials. What does everyone else use? Also I’d like help in how to tie the synthetics to look like a palmered hackle. I always get something that looks like an elk caddis and not a hackle that goes completely around the fly.

I have the same problem.  I have heard that using half a "normal" hackle in a dubbing loop has the right effect in that it alows you to choose the hackle length, but to date I haven’t tried it.  I can see it being tough to get all the hackle fibres to lie in the same direction doing this however. If you try it, let me know how you get on Russ ps have you tried Darrel Martin’s "Micropatterns" book for ideas ?

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Hoffman. Although, I understand your dilema. It’s ver difficult to size hackle on these small ones.

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Hey, if there is anyone out there who loves to fly fish and has the time to chat a little bit with me about fly fishing, PLEASE send me an E-mail. I am senior at the University of Oregon who started to fly fish last Spring. Fly fishing in my number one priority in life right now and I want to be out there in the rivers as much as I can when the season starts. I really don’t know that many people that fly fish around here so it is kind of frustrating not to have anyone to talk with about flies, rods, fish etc. Thanks, Marcelo

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 I’m trying to tie size 20-26 midge drys. I can’t find hackle any smaller than 20 on even the most primium grade necks. I am now using darlone and other synthetic materials. What does everyone else use? Also I’d like help in how to tie the synthetics to look like a palmered hackle. I always get something that looks like an elk caddis and not a hackle that goes completely around the fly.

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Also I’d like help in how to tie the synthetics to look like a palmered hackle. I always get something that looks like an elk caddis and not a hackle that goes completely around the fly.

You could try a dubbing loop, but on a size 26 fly, that might not be practical. Try ostrich herl. Have you tried CDC? Bob Petti Endwell, NY

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Dave Hughes talks a lot about using Pearsall’s Gossamer silk thread for tying wets, especially soft hackles.  Does anyone know a mail order source for this stuff? — Jim Benenson                 Los Alamos, New Mexico, USA "To protect your rivers, protect your mountains"       Emperor Yu of China, circa 1600 B.C.

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Actually it has nothing to do with fishing…it refers to the thin thread of sanity that kept Jim Pearsall attached to this earth.

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Would someone mind sending me or posting their recipe for Dave’s red fox squirrel nymph.  A few freinds of mine are having a lively discussion on the true pattern. Thanks — gp

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Why rely on second-hand responses when you can go right to the source?   Go to http://www.flyfield.com on the web to the Fly and Field fly tying site.  The Red Fox Squirrel Nymph is this month’s featured pattern from Dave Whitlock.

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writes: Would someone mind sending me or posting their recipe for Dave’s red fox squirrel nymph.  A few freinds of mine are having a lively discussion on the true pattern. Thanks — gp

Taken from "Masters On the Nymph", edited by Migel & Wright, 1979 Lyons & Burford Pub. Dave’s Red Fox Squirrel Nymph – taken verbatim from Dave Whitlock, p.135. Hook:           Mustad 9671, sizes 4-18 Body Weight:    6 to 10 wraps lead at thorax Thread:         Black Tail:           Sparse tuft of red-fox squirrel back hair, including                   both guard and underfur 1/2 length of hook shank Rib:            Small oval tinsel Abdomen:        Red-fox squirrel belly fur Thorax:         Red-fox squirrel back fur (with guard and underfur                     included) Wingcase:       Dark brown swiss straw or turkey tail Legs:           Either guard hairs of red-fox squirrel back or one turn                 of dark partridge hackle     The commercial version of this fly is typically tied with partridge hackle, synthetic dubbing and no wingcase – without a bit of red-fox squirrel in the entire fly! Good Tying,             Alan Barnard                         Kiene’s Fly Shop                         Sacramento, Ca.

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Would someone mind sending me or posting their recipe for Dave’s red fox squirrel nymph.  A few freinds of mine are having a lively discussion on the true pattern.

I’ve kept a copy of the original 5 page Dave Whitlock article from a "Fly Fisherman" magazine of many years ago, so here’s a word-for-word recital of same. Dave doth spake unto us, and he said: "Dave Whitlock’s *Standard* Red Fox Squirrel-Hair Nymph Hook:    Mustad 9671 or Tiemco Nymph Hook, #2 to #18 Thread:  Black or dark brown nylon Cement:  Dave’s Flexament [of course! ;^)] Weight:  Lead or copper wire Abdomen: Belly fur from red fox squirrel skin, may be blended with synthetic            sparkle dubbing. Abdomen should be 1/2 to 2/3 of overall body length. Thorax:  Back fur from red fox squirrel skin, may be blended with synthetic            sparkle dubbing. Thorax should be 1/2 to 1/3 of overall body length. Rib:     Gold wire or oval tinsel Tail:    Small tuft of back fur from red fox squirrel skin. Tail is          approximately 1/2 of hook shank length. Note: Squirrel tail hair is completely unsatisfactory for this nymph’s body or tail! Hair from the animal’s body, not the tail, must be used. That is why [he insists] on calling it the Red Fox Squirrel-Hair Nymph. Many tyers have confused this nymph with one of the many squirrel-tail patterns." If the argument is about the dubbing mix, Dave suggested the following: Thorax blend: Cut or shave the back hair off the skin and mix thoroughly in a small coffee-grinder-type blender. Cut yarn or synthetic dubbing into 3/8 to 1/2 inch lengths. Place the synthetic in the blender and mix it thoroughly. Now take a proper 70/30 portion of fur and synthetic and blend those together. Abdomen blend: Cut or shave the belly hair off the skin and repeat the procedure outlined above, except for the belly fur synthetic color and the 60:40 fur to synthetic ratio. Notes: – no wing case is necessary. – nymph should be tied "in the round". – thorax should be enlarged compared to the abdomen and losely wound so the     guard-hair tips will radiate to simulate legs, wing cases, antenna, and       gills in a fuzzy "halo" (fwiw: I use a small strip of the Velcro "hook"       material glued to a popsicle stick to tease the thorax on this and similar     hair nymphs). – tail has 4 or 5 guard hairs and a small bunch of underfur. Try to leave only   the tan base exposed (tie down and dub over the gray base hair). – Antron sparkle yarn is great for the synthetic part of the dubbing mixes.     I use their Amber Stone for the belly (abdomen) mix, and a mixture of Black,   Gray, and Brown for the back (thorax) mix. Hope this settles the argument! Cheers! /dave <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp.    Alpha Server Engineering  < <         "Read this and nobody gets hurt ;^)"         < <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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Would someone mind sending me or posting their recipe for Dave’s red fox squirrel nymph.  A few freinds of mine are having a lively discussion on the true pattern. Thanks

Try the Fly and Field web site http://www.flyfield.com/ Last time I looked there were detailed tying instructions and photographs. Simon Simon Lusk Fly Fishing New Zealand on the WWW http://www-aghort.massey.ac.nz/flyfish/intro Department of Consumer Technology Massey University Palmerston North New Zealand

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I just finished John Judy’s book on slack line presentation. It was reviewed in the lastest Fly Fisherman.  He talks about hinged nymphing and uses a 4′ft leader that he cuts from old tapered leaders.  Does anyone have a formula for putting one of these things together?  I build all my leaders and don’t have any old knotless leaders hanging around. Any comments on this type of nymphing?  Sounds interesting and I’m an awful nymph fisherman. dennis aebersold

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: Any comments on this type of nymphing?  Sounds interesting : and I’m an awful nymph fisherman.         I haven’t used the type of nymphing that you are talking about, but if you are really a horrible nymph fisherman, you might try a short-line technique like we typically use on teh the South Platte here in CO.         The line is weighted about a foot above the fly with a small piece of lead and the rod is held straight out. You can use strike indicators on the leader to increase the probability of detecting a strike.  This makes its a lot easier to detect the little nibbles, and you end up catching a lot more fish…

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Briefly, the leader is tapered similarly to the normal leader but the tippet is fairly long.  The real issue here is the technique for working the fly.  It involves stacking.  After you cast the fly you ’snap’ what I call a micro mend that sends a small loop up your fly line and jerks indicator up stream.  This insures that the fly and weight are directly down stream from the indicator and line to insure that the drift is effected as little as possible by cross currents.  Then you shoot another series of two or three mends which should drop down right around the indicator.  This works similar to a birds nest in that it protects the indicator from dragging.  You then continue to shoot these mends to keep several with the indicator. This system is absolutely deadly when you are fishing water like the Big Horn or the Missouri where there are long glides.  Using this technique you can fish very small flies with relatively little weight.  You can fish these flies well away from you under high visibility conditions where a short line won’t work.  You can also get seventy foot plus drifts.  This is also important when fishing small flies where the current is not terribly fast.  Under these conditions short lining is a problem because aside from the problem of crowding the fish, you cannot get a long drift. I learned this technique from John Beard who is a master of this technique.  The secret is really all involved with sending those special mends.  It is really hard to describe and the best way to learn is to watch someone.  Also it is much easier to do this with heavier lines.  The heavier the easier having something to do with the lack of mass in smaller lines and air resistance. This is deadly on steelhead as well as trout.

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