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Does anyone know of any good links or resources for current fishing reports on the Klamath? Thx

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Here’s a few links.  The first one is updated every Wednesday.  The other two are interesting but I’m not sure if there accurate or updated very often.     If you want a good book I recommend  "Fishing Central Oregon" edited by GeofHill  published by Sun Publishing in Bend Oregon. BJC http://www.dfw.state.or.us/ http://www.steelheader.net/home/default.shtml http://www.fishsniffer.com/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone know of any good links or resources for current fishing reports on the Klamath? Thx

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So far all the posts are out of date or bait guide ads.  To find out what is really happening on the Klamath, Smith Eel and the Trinity, call Mike Kuczynski at the Eureka Fly shop at 800-435-9546 or e-mail him at Mike has 2-3 guide boats on the water daily and has the scoop.  I went with him in October but conditions are different now.  Lots of bad data put out on these rivers.  Read carefully. Tight lines. John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone know of any good links or resources for current fishing reports on the Klamath? Thx

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The lower 30 miles of river fishes best with a fly in September. You need a jet boat for most of this water. That is from Klamath Glen to Weitchpec. In October the fishing is usually good from Orleans to Happy Camp. This is walk in fishing or drift boating. In these warmer months you can fish a floating line as long as the sun is not on the water you are fishing. After the sun hits the water, most anglers use a sinktip to get down a little. In November the water gets a little colder so most are using sinking lines and weighted flies. They have fishing all winter if it is a mild one. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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try westfly.com great site      

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Ice, rest and some sort of anti-inflamatory for the pain.  As for why it is happening, well that is hard to say.  Try to change your cast up a bit.  Did it happen before you started to fish 4 days/week?  If so than you may need to take some time off.  I would suggest changing your cast, bring your arm in closer to your body and don’t try too hard for distance.  Anyway, if the problem persists you should really rest otherwise it will become a cronic issue!! Good Luck! Forrest Arakawa FlyFishingREVIEW.com http://www.flyfishingreview.com I do a lot of flyfishing.  Since April I’ve fished (a lot of blind casting for bass and pickerel) on average 4 hours/day, 4-5 days a week, and now I’ve got elbow (left) problems that feel just like tennis elbow.  I’m a right handed caster and strip with my left hand.  Any helpful suggestions are appreciated. Adam

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Docs usually prescribe anti-inflamatories but I don’t find they work that great and the upset stomach, constipation and weight gain isn’t worth it.

Weight gain?  Geez, Peter, how many of those were you eating?

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the upset stomach, constipation and weight gain

That’s just middle age<g. — Charlie…

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There is a band that you can put on your arm above the elbow that helps greatly for tendonitis.  Ask a pharmacist about where to find one.  The advice on ice and anti inflamatory is good, but the band also helps. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I do a lot of flyfishing.  Since April I’ve fished (a lot of blind casting for bass and pickerel) on average 4 hours/day, 4-5 days a week, and now I’ve got elbow (left) problems that feel just like tennis elbow.  I’m a right handed caster and strip with my left hand.  Any helpful suggestions are appreciated. Adam

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above or below the elbow?

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I’ve been wearing the this type of band for several years now, I wear it below the elbow.

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Adam, 4 hours/day, 4-5 days a week – A gruelling routine to have to stick to. I have no idea how old you are or what kind of shape your in, but I would suggest getting a job. Happy fishing John Knight Sydney Fly Rodders’ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I do a lot of flyfishing.  Since April I’ve fished (a lot of blind casting for bass and pickerel) on average 4 hours/day, 4-5 days a week, and now I’ve got elbow (left) problems that feel just like tennis elbow.  I’m a right handed caster and strip with my left hand.  Any helpful suggestions are appreciated. Adam

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I do a lot of flyfishing.  Since April I’ve fished (a lot of blind casting for bass and pickerel) on average 4 hours/day, 4-5 days a week, and now I’ve got elbow (left) problems that feel just like tennis elbow.  I’m a right handed caster and strip with my left hand.  Any helpful suggestions are appreciated. Adam

Adam,  Rest, then seriously *change* your casting mechanics….somewhere in there you’re doing a lot of tightening up/muscleing.  After the rest…take it slow and easy…to RE-develop the casting stroke…I’ve done it..and if I can do it….I think anyone can…just takes a little thought BEFORE you start the pickup…and it needs to stay short & easy until you’ve gotten rid of the   uptight muscular memory….Breathe!…and use leverage …use your larger muscles more let your lower arm simply carry out the accuracy part.. ..sorry for the lonnng_winded sentence…read it again…and get the breathing happenning in between the run-on phrases;-);-) steve d.

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Years ago, after spending a lot of days casting shooting heads into the wind while up to my eyeballs in water and trying to turn over large flies for Winter Steelhead, I started developing elbow and shoulder problems.  I’m convinced that regardless of technique, after a certain amount of time, problems can develop…especially when casting distances with heavy lines for many hours at a time.  I fish with a friend who is a neurosurgeon.  He advised me that the only real cure was to spend less time fishing for Winter Steelhead.  I now keep plenty of painkillers in my vest and just keep fishing…in spite of his advice.  When the waters are too muddied to fish, then I rest.  I guess it’s all a matter of priorities.  Besides….if you don’t suffer a little and appease the fish gods, then you have no claim to the bigger fish <g Barry

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I do a lot of flyfishing.  Since April I’ve fished (a lot of blind casting for bass and pickerel) on average 4 hours/day, 4-5 days a week, and now I’ve got elbow (left) problems that feel just like tennis elbow.  I’m a right handed caster and strip with my left hand.  Any helpful suggestions are appreciated. Adam Adam,  Rest, then seriously *change* your casting mechanics….somewhere in there you’re doing a lot of tightening up/muscleing.  After the rest…take it slow and easy…to RE-develop the casting stroke…I’ve done it..and if I can do it….I think anyone can…just takes a little thought BEFORE you start the pickup…and it needs to stay short & easy until you’ve gotten rid of the uptight muscular memory….Breathe!…and use leverage …use your larger muscles more let your lower arm simply carry out the accuracy part.. ..sorry for the lonnng_winded sentence…read it again…and get the breathing happenning in between the run-on phrases;-);-) steve d.

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Thanks for the advice.  Actually, I know that rest works, but I’m not going to stop fishing.  My problem is most likely due to stripping technique, as you alluded to.  Along these lines, your suggestion about using the rod tips is interesting.  However, I’d like to find out just what I am doing wrong and what is the best way to strip without over stressing the tendons (the cause of tennis elbow). Adam

I do a lot of streamer fishing and I’m a medical textbook when it comes to tendonitis (and lately arthritis) yet stripping doesn’t bother me and I believe it’s because the arm motion actually is mostly in the shoulder and in one plane.   You’re stripping down and to the side and placing stress on the elbow.  Then when it gets to the end of the motion (straight arm) you’re creating more stress in stopping. Try keeping your arm in an ‘L’ position and just pull straight back. It duplicates the normal arm swing as we walk, a very stress free motion. Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.cgocable.net/~pcharles/index.html

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Thanks for the advice.  Actually, I know that rest works, but I’m not going to stop fishing.  My problem is most likely due to stripping technique, as you alluded to.  Along these lines, your suggestion about using the rod tips is interesting.  However, I’d like to find out just what I am doing wrong and what is the best way to strip without over stressing the tendons (the cause of tennis elbow). Adam

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Like Peter said, the best cure is rest. I am also prone to this problem. Try to reduce your power stripping and use the rod tip to impart action to the fly/streamer. The more you aggravate the elbow the slower the healing process. jim I do a lot of flyfishing.  Since April I’ve fished (a lot of blind casting for bass and pickerel) on average 4 hours/day, 4-5 days a week, and now I’ve got elbow (left) problems that feel just like tennis elbow.  I’m a right handed caster and strip with my left hand.  Any helpful suggestions are appreciated. Adam Tendonitis.  Ultrasound and cortisone works great.  For home therapy, try an ice pack.  It’s an inflamation so rest and ice will help.  Docs usually prescribe anti-inflamatories but I don’t find they work that great and the upset stomach, constipation and weight gain isn’t worth it. Good luck Peter

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I do a lot of flyfishing.  Since April I’ve fished (a lot of blind casting for bass and pickerel) on average 4 hours/day, 4-5 days a week, and now I’ve got elbow (left) problems that feel just like tennis elbow.  I’m a right handed caster and strip with my left hand.  Any helpful suggestions are appreciated. Adam

Tendonitis.  Ultrasound and cortisone works great.  For home therapy, try an ice pack.  It’s an inflamation so rest and ice will help.  Docs usually prescribe anti-inflamatories but I don’t find they work that great and the upset stomach, constipation and weight gain isn’t worth it. Good luck Peter

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As long as you just doing this catch as catch can type of fishing, you are going to have these problems.  They’ll disappear when you can start putting some serious hours in. In the meantime, Ibuprofen works pretty good for sore muscles…you want to get up there in the 800 – 1000 mg range. Also, quit casting blinds until duck season comes in to relieve the unnecessary stress. Switching back and forth between left and right hand casting helps keep both sides of your brain balanced….works for me…….john

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Like Peter said, the best cure is rest. I am also prone to this problem. Try to reduce your power stripping and use the rod tip to impart action to the fly/streamer. The more you aggravate the elbow the slower the healing process. jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I do a lot of flyfishing.  Since April I’ve fished (a lot of blind casting for bass and pickerel) on average 4 hours/day, 4-5 days a week, and now I’ve got elbow (left) problems that feel just like tennis elbow.  I’m a right handed caster and strip with my left hand.  Any helpful suggestions are appreciated. Adam Tendonitis.  Ultrasound and cortisone works great.  For home therapy, try an ice pack.  It’s an inflamation so rest and ice will help.  Docs usually prescribe anti-inflamatories but I don’t find they work that great and the upset stomach, constipation and weight gain isn’t worth it. Good luck Peter

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I do a lot of flyfishing.  Since April I’ve fished (a lot of blind casting for bass and pickerel) on average 4 hours/day, 4-5 days a week, and now I’ve got elbow (left) problems that feel just like tennis elbow.  I’m a right handed caster and strip with my left hand.  Any helpful suggestions are appreciated. Adam

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Register now for: Fly tying classes, instructor Derek Tay,  beginning January 1999 Fly Casting classes beginning April 1999 Christmas gift certificates available Atlantic Fly Fishing School Brookfield, Nova Scotia www.flyschool.net

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Register now for: Fly tying classes, instructor Derek Tay,  beginning January 1999 Fly Casting classes beginning April 1999 Christmas gift certificates available Atlantic Fly Fishing School Brookfield, Nova Scotia www.flyschool.net

____ Your http://www.flyschool.net  will show up blueif you add the http://  (I think!)  Why it didn’t light up as a web site, I don’t know.   Someone will tell me. Anyhow, I think teaching people "how" to use their hands tying flies is the primary goal before we teach them specific flies.  For example, how to use the hands to tie in tails, wings, tying knots, etc. When I go to Sports Shows with Fly Tiers, I will watch instructors on how they explain tying a fly, and FEW, if any ever cover what they are doing with their hands to properly divide the wings for that fly, for instance. "Sure, I know you use Calf Hair, but . . . " I will visit your site and see what you have. If you need to try some FLY-MAKER’S WAX or order some, let me know at: http://www.gink.com/ (Was I tactful enough with that fellahs?) no?  huh?

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I am headed to Captiva Island March 19-26. I am planning to fish till I drop! I need info about where to get maps (ahead of time), where to fish the surf, the grasses, and the mangroves. What would be runnning this time of year? Any chance for Tarpon? I am planning to rent a boat, wade,  or hire a guide for a day. I have some light salt water spinning tackle but my fly rod is too light for salt and my fly reel is designed for fresh water. I am staying a South Seas Plantation and I have access to a car.  Any info about the area will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mike St. Louis, Mo.

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Mike, 941-624-2923 (Fly Fishing).  Both work the Boca Grande/Port Charlotte area and will arrange to meet you at a place of your choice (They bring the boat to you).  Snook, trout, redfish, grouper are for sure and both these guys know were there are some year around Tarpon in the area.  We fished them in November with Dan. Paul Phillips Director of Operations Fintastic Fish Mounts http://www.fintastic.com take off the 1 for E-mail – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am headed to Captiva Island March 19-26. I am planning to fish till I drop! I need info about where to get maps (ahead of time), where to fish the surf, the grasses, and the mangroves. What would be runnning this time of year? Any chance for Tarpon? I am planning to rent a boat, wade,  or hire a guide for a day. I have some light salt water spinning tackle but my fly rod is too light for salt and my fly reel is designed for fresh water. I am staying a South Seas Plantation and I have access to a car.  Any info about the area will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mike St. Louis, Mo.

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I’m planning of visiting Yosemite and Kings Canyon National Parks at the end of September.  Any advice on rivers and fly selection would be appreciated!  I’ll be staying in Three Rivers and Bass Lake.   Thanks Very Much!

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I’m planning of visiting Yosemite and Kings Canyon National Parks at the end of September.  Any advice on rivers and fly selection would be appreciated!  I’ll be staying in Three Rivers and Bass Lake.  

The streams in that end of Yosemite will be too low at the end of Sept. , but it’s about an hour over to the Merced just outside the park at El Portal.  The Merced has been ok in some years and poor in others, but fishes best at this time of year.  Check with Bob at Sierra Anglers in Modesto for an up to date report.  Out of Three Rivers your best bet is the Middle Fk. of the Kaweah above Buckeye Flat campground.  Both rivers are free stone streams with lots of pocket water.  Use Elk Hair Caddis , stimulators or Humpies, the basic western Sierra drill. Good luck. …Dick

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Please post your fishing pictures in our new newsgroup: alt.binaries.pictures.fishing In fact, *anyone* with the means to post their fishing pictures is encouraged to do so as the posts have been few and far between. Stan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Check out the picture I posted in alt.binaries.pictures.animals of a nice cutthroat caught Dec. 24/96 in the Big Qualicum River on Vancouver Island. He took an egg fly which we brought with us from Ontario.

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Check out the picture I posted in alt.binaries.pictures.animals of a nice cutthroat caught Dec. 24/96 in the Big Qualicum River on Vancouver Island. He took an egg fly which we brought with us from Ontario.

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Can any one recommend the right size fly pole for Bass and small Stripers?                                                 Thanks!

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I HAVE BEEN TOLD TO USE A 6 OR 7 WEIGHT FLY ROD .THAT IS WHAT I AM GOING TO DO THIS SUMMER 97.I CAN HARDLY WAIT. TIE YOUR OWN FLIES AND YOU WILL BE SURPRISED.

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try using a 9ft boron rod…use 7wgt fwd line and use either a popping bus or a deer hair bug tied by one of the catalog co. ll bean dan baily orvis…etc

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: When your guides ice-up and so you try to pee pee and that’s iced up too. : Then it’s too cold to fly fish. I submit it is too cold to fly fish, when the wings on those buggers start to ice up.   — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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: When your guides ice-up and so you try to pee pee and that’s iced up too. : Then it’s too cold to fly fish. I submit it is too cold to fly fish, when the wings on those buggers start to ice up.   — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

You wouldn’t be much good for steedheading in the Northeast then.  There are several "tricks of the trade," to try to eliminate ice.

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must do wonders for the guides and the rod…

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That stuff is mostly isopropanol, toxic to fish, not good to be spilling in a stream. In fact, probably illegal in some states with stringent regulations (like California.) If you must use stuff like that onstream, be sure to filter it through a loaf of bread first. — Ken Clark Ft. Lupton, CO

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Try using windshield de-icer to keep your guides and flies free of ice.

Research reveals that 9 out of 10 guides prefer BOURBON to keep lubricated.

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Ghillies prefer Scotch, though.

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When the thought of tying flies near a fireplace sounds better’n flying ties in an ice storm.

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Try using windshield de-icer to keep your guides and flies free of ice. Research reveals that 9 out of 10 guides prefer BOURBON to keep lubricated.

IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS THE TEMPERATURE GETS DOWN TO -20/30 C IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AND MOST FLY FISHERMEN COULDN’T BE BOTHERED TO CHISEL OUT A 40′X 1′ TRENCH THROUGH THE ICE IN ORDER TO LAY OUT A FLY NICELY.

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When your guides ice-up and so you try to pee pee and that’s iced up too. Then it’s too cold to fly fish.

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depends on how pissed off the old lady is…

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Try using windshield de-icer to keep your guides and flies free of ice. Research reveals that 9 out of 10 guides prefer BOURBON to keep lubricated. IN MY NECK OF THE WOODS THE TEMPERATURE GETS DOWN TO -20/30 C IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY AND MOST FLY FISHERMEN COULDN’T BE BOTHERED TO CHISEL OUT A 40′X 1′ TRENCH THROUGH THE ICE IN ORDER TO LAY OUT A FLY NICELY.

Haw! you think that’s bad,come down here to Texas for a week. 80 degree lows will make you shiver from head to toe!(well,maybe a little colder)                 Aaron Zee

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Try using windshield de-icer to keep your guides and flies free of ice.

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writes: Can anyone give me some good advice on flyfishing in CentralNorth Jersey.  I’m new to the area and have fished on the south branch of the Raritan (Califon), but it’s incredibly crowded.  Would appreciate any pointers E-mail me back! Thanks Paul Amatangelo

Paul, Along with the Musconetcong River, you may want to try the Pequest, Paulinskill, and Big Flatbrook in New Jersey.  However, you may want to drive the extra distance and fish such rivers as the Bushkill and Lackawaxen in Pennsylvania, as well as the Beaverkill, Esopus, and the East & West branches of the Delaware River in New York. All these rivers are within two hours driving time from northern New Jersey.     Good Luck!

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I am 15 years old and live in Princeton NJ. I just started Fly Fishing a year ago and have tried many a spots in this area. Right in Princeton is the Stoney Brook which is stocked with trout and other fish and is known to produce bass and perch. The Assunpink River (not lake) has alot of perch and Shad and has produced a few trout and bass for me. The Pequest and Flatbrook rivers are also very good for trout. But for bass fly I would recomend a spot that I found two years ago when I was a spin fisher. It is in the Delaware Raritan canal. IT is right by the main entrance to the Bulls Island Campground on the Delaware River. Its on the New Jersey side in case your confused. Thats all I can THink of but if you would like advice on other spots feel free to write. Matt

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Saturday, May6 I went to the North branch of the Raritan at Rte 206 and 287. Very little crowd.  I didn’t catch any trout but another fellow had 3 on a stringer.

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Can anyone give me some good advice on flyfishing in CentralNorth Jersey.  I’m new to the area and have fished on the south branch of the Raritan (Califon), but it’s incredibly crowded.  Would appreciate any pointers E-mail me back! Thanks Paul Amatangelo

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Try the Musky west of the route 24 bridge just pass the fly stretch. This area has produced some 8 lb fish. I know, from first hand experience I didnt catch it, put a witnessed the fight and landing of the monster. The person who caught it was a rookie, only his third time out. Some people have all the luck. Good Luck.

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If you are talking about regular woven bodies?  You tie your two flosses in at the bend in the hook and simple tie a series of single over hand knots.  Always tie in the same pattern left over right or right over left and you will wind up with light on top or bottom.  Pick the pattern you want and go with it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone have tying instructions for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven Caddis patterns? I saw some in a shop the other day for sales. Deadly looking bugs, but 6 – 8 flys at $24 – ouch! I was told that his pattern was recently provided in an magazine published in the U.K. I unfortunately can’t identify the publication. There was an article in a recent issue (either Dec. or Jan.) of Flyfisherman that described a technique for making woven bodied nymphs using two different colors of floss.  The article described some nymphs using a light and dark shade of heavy brown floss.  I had some olive and yellow floss so I tried a few.  I ended up creating some really nice looking green rockworm nymphs The process for creating the body is fairly time consuming when compared to a dubbed body so I assume that has something to do with cost.   I’m not sure if this was actually for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven Caddis but the instructions had a "key" step for starting the weave at the beginning that is supposed to make it easier.  Unfortunately the text had a typo in it.  It had you start with one color of floss in your left hand.  Then is said to put the other color in you left hand and I’m sure that one of those "lefts" was suppose to be a "right" but it was unclear how to figure it out from the rest of the text. — John Fereira "Guru of Miscellany" Pleasanton, CA "Ask me about my vow of silence."

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<Does anyone have tying instructions for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven Caddis patterns? Davy is going to be at the Midwest Fly Show Jan 6,7, and 8th in Westmont, IL 400 E. Ogden Ave.  He will be tying all three days and I am sure he will be more than happy to answer any questions you have in regards to the Polish Woven Nymph.  He did not originate this pattern but he ties them as well or better than the original.  If you want more info on the Midest Fly Show call me @ 1-800-328-9753 or E mail.                                                           Marcos

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : Does anyone have tying instructions for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven : Caddis patterns? I saw some in a shop the other day for sales. Deadly : looking bugs, but 6 – 8 flys at $24 – ouch! I was told that his pattern : was recently provided in an magazine published in the U.K. I : unfortunately can’t identify the publication. : Any and all help would be appreciated. Well B, it was the Sept/Oct 94 issue of Fly-Fishing and Fly-TYing. They certainly look good and aren’t that difficult to tie once you’ve done a few. The description is quite lengthy but if you can find anything on a SHUTTLE weave it should get you started. Some points I’ve noticed while fiddling with them:    - a correctly proportioned, smoothly tapered underbody is req’d    - you need a widish gape hook.    - surprisingly little lead is req’d – smoothish body sinks well.    - rayon flosses are slippery to use but can be managed    - wool is good    - Don’t neglect peacock herl    - use wool on size 6 hooks to practice    - leave materials in on the spool (don’t cut off lengths) it helps      with handling and tensioning. OB PATTERN    Wet beatle/nymph –    hook: Kamasan B175 Heavy traditional – size 10/12 mash barb.    thread: black    rib: fine copper wire with red tinge.    underbody: fine lead wire to suit application, build up nicely    tapered UB with thread AFTER tying in flosses,herls rib.    Body: woven – 3 peacock herl strands in rope with thread on top    the bottom being an orange floss heavy.    Head: BIG – BLACK and lacquered.    TIP – leave the herl rope and bobbin connected it helps with    maintaining the right tension    It is representative of some beetles we have about at the moment    and is very moorish to the fish (Browns). Have fun steve

Not to drop names, but I will be seeing Davy this weekend and would be pleased to obtain any additional info on this fly. E-Mail me at: am not sure if my net provider has a local #.

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Does anyone have tying instructions for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven Caddis patterns? I saw some in a shop the other day for sales. Deadly looking bugs, but 6 – 8 flys at $24 – ouch! I was told that his pattern was recently provided in an magazine published in the U.K. I unfortunately can’t identify the publication. Any and all help would be appreciated.

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Does anyone have tying instructions for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven Caddis patterns? I saw some in a shop the other day for sales. Deadly looking bugs, but 6 – 8 flys at $24 – ouch! I was told that his pattern was recently provided in an magazine published in the U.K. I unfortunately can’t identify the publication.

There was an article in a recent issue (either Dec. or Jan.) of Flyfisherman that described a technique for making woven bodied nymphs using two different colors of floss.  The article described some nymphs using a light and dark shade of heavy brown floss.  I had some olive and yellow floss so I tried a few.  I ended up creating some really nice looking green rockworm nymphs The process for creating the body is fairly time consuming when compared to a dubbed body so I assume that has something to do with cost.   I’m not sure if this was actually for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven Caddis but the instructions had a "key" step for starting the weave at the beginning that is supposed to make it easier.  Unfortunately the text had a typo in it.  It had you start with one color of floss in your left hand.  Then is said to put the other color in you left hand and I’m sure that one of those "lefts" was suppose to be a "right" but it was unclear how to figure it out from the rest of the text. — John Fereira "Guru of Miscellany" Pleasanton, CA "Ask me about my vow of silence."

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: Does anyone have tying instructions for Davey Wotton’s Polish Wooven : Caddis patterns? I saw some in a shop the other day for sales. Deadly : looking bugs, but 6 – 8 flys at $24 – ouch! I was told that his pattern : was recently provided in an magazine published in the U.K. I : unfortunately can’t identify the publication. : Any and all help would be appreciated. Well B, it was the Sept/Oct 94 issue of Fly-Fishing and Fly-TYing. They certainly look good and aren’t that difficult to tie once you’ve done a few. The description is quite lengthy but if you can find anything on a SHUTTLE weave it should get you started. Some points I’ve noticed while fiddling with them:         – a correctly proportioned, smoothly tapered underbody is req’d         – you need a widish gape hook.         – surprisingly little lead is req’d – smoothish body sinks well.         – rayon flosses are slippery to use but can be managed         – wool is good         – Don’t neglect peacock herl         – use wool on size 6 hooks to practice         – leave materials in on the spool (don’t cut off lengths) it helps           with handling and tensioning. OB PATTERN         Wet beatle/nymph –         hook: Kamasan B175 Heavy traditional – size 10/12 mash barb.         thread: black         rib: fine copper wire with red tinge.         underbody: fine lead wire to suit application, build up nicely         tapered UB with thread AFTER tying in flosses,herls rib.         Body: woven – 3 peacock herl strands in rope with thread on top         the bottom being an orange floss heavy.         Head: BIG – BLACK and lacquered.         TIP – leave the herl rope and bobbin connected it helps with         maintaining the right tension         It is representative of some beetles we have about at the moment         and is very moorish to the fish (Browns). Have fun steve

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