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Today I finally found the time to head up to Boone and fish for trout. It had been nearly two months since my last visit. Fortunately, I was able to bring along an ex-ROFFian celebrity guest which had the added bonus of providing Waldo a bit of motivation to join us for the day. I think I can safely speak for all of three us when I say that we had a great time. After taking care of a few errands in the area, Celebrity Guest and I met Waldo at his house at about 9:30am and headed to the Watauga. We decided to fish the delayed harvest section for a while as we waited for the sun to come out and (hopefully) bring the fish to the surface. As it turns out, the fish never did really get into the swing of taking dry flies, so we (well, those of us with no scruples anyway) were relegated to fishing with nymphs. The stockers were unusually picky and much more of a challenge than normal. Not a bad thing at all, but in the end we did manage to catch a respectable number of fish. At about noon we headed to a wild stream that has quickly become one of my very favorite places on earth to fish. The water was running high and *cold* but relatively clear. I was actually glad that I had let Celebrity Guest borrow my nice breathable waders and that I had chosen to wear my neoprene backups. We fished some absolutely stunning stretches of water. Despite the fact that I’m practically only half the age of my fishing partners, I was the only one to take a spill. I didn’t get wet, but I did manage quite a shin shiner. Once again, dry flies did not produce (although Waldo and Celebrity Guest stuck to their dry fly guns with seasoned determination) but a few fish could be had here and there in the deep pools with small Prince nymphs and a couple of–ahem–sinkers. It’s interesting how different things are at this time of year than they were last year at this time. The water is much higher and colder which has likely delayed the dry fly action by several weeks. Or maybe that has nothing to do with it; who knows. Despite the predictions of rain showers, the weather was great. An almost eery cold front pushed its way into the area right as we were breaking down our gear (at about 3:30pm) and by 4:00pm it was butt cold outside. A good day on the stream and the company was most excellent. Can’t wait to do it again… –Steve

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  Um, I need a ruling on the above: is it White Fish that he’s fucking, or is he a White Fucker who preys on fish?

Jeff preys on white fish.  What he did with them after that is still his little secret <g HTH. — Warren Findley "The vice or virtue of any form of angling lies not in the method but in the man." Author Hugh Falkus

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Sure, but just in a sarcastic manner…. Shut up  white fish fucker!

Um, I need a ruling on the above: is it White Fish that he’s fucking, or is he a White Fucker who preys on fish? /daytripper (Thanks in advance

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So if I designate myself as the "Best fly fisherman to ever live" will you guys start referring to me as that?

Sure, but just in a sarcastic manner….

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Sure, but just in a sarcastic manner….

Shut up  white fish fucker! — Warren Findley "The vice or virtue of any form of angling lies not in the method but in the man." Author Hugh Falkus

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Ya really think Zimbo’s breathables would fit the dwarf?  

Maybe they cut one leg off of Waldo’s old waders and made him hop from boulder to boulder. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Well hell’s bells, are you going to tell us who it is? It was Vern Ursenbach.

Cool! I always thought Vern was perfectly proportioned to fish those little NC streams. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Ya really think Zimbo’s breathables would fit the dwarf?   (You wouldn’t believe how many times I had to rewrite that to avoid some sicko double-entendre.   e.g. Do you think Vern would fit in Zimbo’s

waders?) I am sure he could reside in one leg of Zimbo’s waders very comfortably <g — Warren Findley "The vice or virtue of any form of angling lies not in the method but in the man." Author Hugh Falkus

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"Paul Goodwin" wrote I do believe that if he was goint to tell us he would have.    So it must have been the dwarf.

Ya really think Zimbo’s breathables would fit the dwarf?   (You wouldn’t believe how many times I had to rewrite that to avoid some sicko double-entendre.   e.g. Do you think Vern would fit in Zimbo’s waders?) Joe F.

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Charlie Wilson: "Paul Goodwin" wrote I do believe that if he was goint to tell us he would have.   So it must have been the dwarf.

<splork  But I missed the computer!!! <g Dave

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It was Vern Ursenbach. You are joking right? Hell yeah he’s joking. It was the American Sportsman.

Oh, you mean Curt Gowdy

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It was the company that I help start (The American Sportsman’s Club" OR it is "The American Sportsman’s Series" that was directed by my good friend, who recently died, Burr Smidt who lives on Manasee Road in Sarasota Florida.  He has done a lot of production works that were outstanding, especially those done with his wife, Renee’ Valenti Smidt. The American Sportsman was a popular Television Series twenty years ago. Guests included Bing Crosby, and many other Hollywood American Sportsmen.  It was THE PREMIER Outdoors Program all others try to top. None have done it to date Warren. George     Hell yeah he’s joking. It was the American Sportsman. WhoTF is the American Sportsman? — Warren Findley "The vice or virtue of any form of angling lies not in the method but in the man." Author Hugh Falkus

– (C) George Gehrke 2001 http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html     fine bamboo flyrods & blanks

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GROSS! George was using that tag for a while last year. So if I designate myself as the "Best fly fisherman to ever live" will you guys start referring to me as that? Why does it remind me of the old saying "You can hope in one hand, crap in the other and see which one gets filled first" ?.?.?.? — Warren Findley "The vice or virtue of any form of angling lies not in the method but in the man." Author Hugh Falkus

– (C) George Gehrke 2001 http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html     fine bamboo flyrods & blanks

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    Hell yeah he’s joking. It was the American Sportsman.

WhoTF is the American Sportsman? — Warren Findley "The vice or virtue of any form of angling lies not in the method but in the man." Author Hugh Falkus

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George was using that tag for a while last year. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –     Hell yeah he’s joking. It was the American Sportsman. WhoTF is the American Sportsman? — Warren Findley "The vice or virtue of any form of angling lies not in the method but in the man." Author Hugh Falkus

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George was using that tag for a while last year.

So if I designate myself as the "Best fly fisherman to ever live" will you guys start referring to me as that? Why does it remind me of the old saying "You can hope in one hand, crap in the other and see which one gets filled first" ?.?.?.? — Warren Findley "The vice or virtue of any form of angling lies not in the method but in the man." Author Hugh Falkus

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It was Vern Ursenbach. You are joking right?

    Hell yeah he’s joking. It was the American Sportsman.

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It was Vern Ursenbach. You are joking right?

You’ll have to ask Mr. Wilson about that… –Steve

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"Paul Goodwin" wrote I do believe that if he was goint to tell us he would have.   So it must have been the dwarf.

Somehow I doubt Mrs. Dwarf would let him roam that far. /daytripper (My money’s on wayno…)

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Well hell’s bell’s, are you going to tell us who it is?

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I do believe that if he was goint to tell us he would have.

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"Paul Goodwin" wrote I do believe that if he was goint to tell us he would have.

   So it must have been the dwarf.

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Well hell’s bells, are you going to tell us who it is?

It was Vern Ursenbach. –Steve

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It was Vern Ursenbach.

You are joking right?

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<snipped nice TR for space? Glad you had a good time.  Perhaps you can broker a deal for their extra water to help fill up our rivers and resevoirs to keep California in electricity this summer. Was Wayno the celebrity guest? <g — Warren Findley "The vice or virtue of any form of angling lies not in the method but in the man." Author Hugh Falkus

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If grasshoppers had machine-guns, the birds wouldn’t fuck with them and neither would I for that matter.  <BSEG — Opie  –Planning for the Past–

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If grasshoppers are bopping about then, you can’t beat them.

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I spend the summer there.  If you want to float with a guide, I would suggest the Yellowstone.  It seems the guides will be favoring either the Yellowstone or the Upper Madison, both about a 60 minute ride from Bozeman.  To wade/walk the Gallatin is just outside of Bozeman and flows south to north from Yellowstone National Park.  The other poster is right you’ve got many miles of water (go south, though, not north).  The lower Madison is too warm that time of year to spend time with if you’ve just a few days (it can produce early in the day).  July is caddis time.  The key for next summer will be water flows since the snowpack is only 50% of normal.  If you have time go to West Yellowstone (60 miles south), hire a guide and fish the Park.  The two biggest fly shops in town have websites, The Rivers Edge and Montana Troutfitters. Good Luck

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I have a friend who lives in Livingston, 26 miles east of Bozeman. You have good access to the Madison, Gallatin, and Yellowstone rivers. The Madison is absolutely beautiful, the Gallatin is nice, but the Yellowstone has been the most consistent producer of nice fish for both of us. South of Livinston is Daily Lake, which has nice fish. If grasshoppers are bopping about then, you can’t beat them. In article – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Heading to Bozeman this summer in July.  Can anybody offer suggestions on streams/rivers to check while I am there and what to expect while I am doing it?  Anything would be appreciated.  A bit of a break from what I normally do is always welcome and I am really looking forward to it. Thanks.

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Heading to Bozeman this summer in July.  Can anybody offer suggestions on streams/rivers to check while I am there and what to expect while I am doing it?  Anything would be appreciated.  A bit of a break from what I normally do is always welcome and I am really looking forward to it. Thanks. — Capt Gordon Churchill http://www.flyfish-nc.com Guided flyfishing on the Roanoke River and the Crystal Coast of NC out of Atlantic Beach/Morhead City/Beaufort.

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Heading to Bozeman this summer in July.  Can anybody offer suggestions on streams/rivers to check while I am there and what to expect while I am doing it?  Anything would be appreciated.  A bit of a break from what I normally do is always welcome and I am really looking forward to it. Thanks. — Capt Gordon Churchill http://www.flyfish-nc.com Guided flyfishing on the Roanoke River and the Crystal Coast of NC out of Atlantic Beach/Morhead City/Beaufort.

Head north man and you have the Gallitin for 50 miles or more. Joel Axelrad

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WOW….somebody’s going to write in my name….. john – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Who do you trust?  What are you people arguing about?  Both Bush and Gore are four letter words and you’re going to get it no matter which you vote for. Clinton machine is dead in the water as is Gore who was every bit as much a liar as Bill is.  Difference is, during times of war they executed traitors didn’t they?  Gore was just as much responsible for selling America out to China as anyone.  Basically, if elected by the ignorant, the same crew will run this country from in the basement as before.  Yes, a few cosmetic changes but nothing you will ever notice. Gore will get more of your guns and freedoms to bear arms will be weakened ever more. Bush will get more of your last remaining forests, not that anyone here can do anything about it.  All of you can kiss Alaska Oil Reserves good bye for this state will have it’s heart ripped out for its oil. Basically, all of you are going to be Gored or Bushed.  You deserve what you get.  To stop this kind of idiocy, you need to abolish the Federal Reserve.  Have Congress buy them out.  They’re just a private investment company anyhow, raping America for money. Let’s all face it.  They’re BOTH lousy choices.  Vote for a change, at least.  Vote for the man that will leave your gun ownership alone and we know who that is because your guns are the ultimate remaining power that controls the government, one would think. Awe, nuts!  Back to fly fishing the muddy rivers due to clearcutting. — George G. Bastard Bamboo Fly Rods http://www.gink.com/ http://www.gink.com/chat

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Who do you trust?  What are you people arguing about?  Both Bush and Gore are four letter words and you’re going to get it no matter which you vote for. Clinton machine is dead in the water as is Gore who was every bit as much a liar as Bill is.  Difference is, during times of war they executed traitors didn’t they?  Gore was just as much responsible for selling America out to China as anyone.  Basically, if elected by the ignorant, the same crew will run this country from in the basement as before.  Yes, a few cosmetic changes but nothing you will ever notice. Gore will get more of your guns and freedoms to bear arms will be weakened ever more. Bush will get more of your last remaining forests, not that anyone here can do anything about it.  All of you can kiss Alaska Oil Reserves good bye for this state will have it’s heart ripped out for its oil. Basically, all of you are going to be Gored or Bushed.  You deserve what you get.  To stop this kind of idiocy, you need to abolish the Federal Reserve.  Have Congress buy them out.  They’re just a private investment company anyhow, raping America for money. Let’s all face it.  They’re BOTH lousy choices.  Vote for a change, at least.  Vote for the man that will leave your gun ownership alone and we know who that is because your guns are the ultimate remaining power that controls the government, one would think. Awe, nuts!  Back to fly fishing the muddy rivers due to clearcutting.   — George G. Bastard Bamboo Fly Rods http://www.gink.com/ http://www.gink.com/chat

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I’ll be moving to Ann Arbor for a year or two beginning next June. Can someone recommend local lakes, rivers, etc for fishing? tia. Mike

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Contact Mu Young Lee over on rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.  He lives in Ann Frank Church Elkhart, IN USAF RETIRED – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ll be moving to Ann Arbor for a year or two beginning next June. Can someone recommend local lakes, rivers, etc for fishing? tia. Mike

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You are SO LUCKY !  You are going to one of the best fishing areas in the U.S. Having grown up living on Ore Lake, by Hamburg, Mi. ( about 12 miles from Ann Arbor) I can tell you that it’s difficult to turn around without falling into a river or lake.  The Huron River runs through Ann Arbor and their is a chain of lakes on it every couple of miles.  Pick up a map and check out all the lakes in Washtenaw and Livingston Counties ! I’ll be moving to Ann Arbor for a year or two beginning next June. Can someone recommend local lakes, rivers, etc for fishing? tia.

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Mike: I live north off Ann Arbor and do alot of fishing in the area.  Try at Pinckney (just nw of Ann Arbor) and fish the two chains of lakes (halfmoon and strawberry lake chains).  You can also fish the Pinckey Rec. Area lakes. I do well with bass and pike in those two areas.  I also fish alot in Livingston county (just north of ann arbor).  As far as rivers go, the Huron river runs right through Ann Arbor.  Fishing the river around the hospital/medical complex has provided alot of smallmouth for me over the years.  Also, fishing the Huron north of Ann Arbor has been successful for me. Good luck. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ll be moving to Ann Arbor for a year or two beginning next June. Can someone recommend local lakes, rivers, etc for fishing? tia. Mike

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Libler, what do you know about the grand river as it runs through diamondale? — A true fisherman approaches the first day of fishing           much as a child approaches Christmas, with the eager   anticipation, sleepless nights, making of lists, and the anticipating of pleasure.

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DITTO!…’cept my vest got heisted outta my van last week and you guessed, the reel was in my vest…….john

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Mark, I have an old Pfluger Medallist and the clicker broke. After using it like that for a while I decided I liked it better without the noise and never tried to fix it. Ernie Harrison Keep Livestock Away From Our Rivers and Streams. I was fishing today (no I haven’t caught anything yet) and my reel broke. It was a cheap combo, 6.5 ft setup that only cost me $23 anyway (yeah guys, I just switched the line over to it this morning from that old Pfleuger Medallist I talked about in a previous post!), but I didn’t want to move up to a better outfit until I started to catch some fish and felt confident in selecting a better rod. Unfortunately with the reel breaking (the metal ring that holds the clicker in place broke off, <snip

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<snipped Hi Jim, This is one hell of a gesture of good faith. It reminds me of a story one of my local fly shop owners once told me. He was just leaving the stream one morning to go open his shop when he came across another fisherman who had just broken his rod and was upset. The shop owner just handed him his rod without even thinking about it and told him where the shop was so that he may return the $600-800 dollar rod and reel. After getting to the shop he realized that he’d just given his rod to a complete stranger. The guy did return the rod and reel later that day and said that he’d had a great day on the water. Darin

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One of the best "starter" sets I’ve seen is the L.L. Bean Quest.  The only thing that might need replacing is the line that comes with it.  These come in around $110-$120.  My personal opinion is that if you keep buying the really low end stuff you soon could have bought something better. L. Baird

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Mark- gosh you sure don’t lack for enthusiasm and persistance!!! From you previous post "Need more help" I surmise that you are now left with 1.  A 8.5 ft 6 wt rod 2.  A 6.5 ft 4/5 wt rod 3.  Probably a 6 wt line that was on the Pflueger Medalist before you switched it over to the smaller reel that self destructed. 4.  That you were having trouble casting the 6.5 ft setup. Several thoughts.  First, it is quite possible that you are overpowering the 4/5 wt rod by using, what I would imagine was a 6 wt line on the Pflueger.  This may explain your casting frustrations. Second, as to your reel problem.  I’ll make you a deal- Email me your mailing address and I’ll loan you a new Cabela’s Graphite Reel for 5/6 wt line under the following conditions.  You must return it in whatever condition it might be in after use if you either loose interest and stop fly fishing or, more likely, you catch a fish on a fly and become an instant gear whore – resulting in a condition that will leave you not batting an eye before ordering that $170.00 combo – and that’s just for starters.  After you move up in quality you will no longer need the Cabela- in fact , may even look down your nose at it.  But return it anyway so that I can pass it on again.  Deal?? I’d suggest that you load the 6 wt line on this reel and match it with the 8.5 ft 6 wt rod.  This will give you a more balanced rig and, if you are still fishing those small streams, allow you to roll cast all day long, with the added benefit of being able to get to larger waters and more windy conditions later. Regards, Jim McCreary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I was fishing today (no I haven’t caught anything yet) and my reel broke. It was a cheap combo, 6.5 ft setup that only cost me $23 anyway (yeah guys, I just switched the line over to it this morning from that old Pfleuger Medallist I talked about in a previous post!), but I didn’t want to move up to a better outfit until I started to catch some fish and felt confident in selecting a better rod. Unfortunately with the reel breaking (the metal ring that holds the clicker in place broke off, I suppose I might be able to figure some way of glueing another piece of metal in there but it wouldn’t hold), I need to get a new one. I was just looking through the cabela website and noticed all of the inexpensive combo sets they have. If I had the cash, I would have just gone ahead and gotten the Orvis Clearwater combo from the local Orvis store for $159, but I really don’t feel comfortable spending that much as of yet (though I do have the itch!). My question is: Has anyone ever used/purchased one of the combos found on cabelas website like the Scientific Angler, Cabelas Letort, or the Pfleuger Medallist combo (though at only $29.95 I’m a bit hesitant to go with the Pfleuger combo). Any other combos worth taking a look at for under $75? Or should I just put out the dough for either the Cortland from Cabelas at approx $160 or the Orvis Clearwater combo for $160? Any suggestions would be appreciated. I would just buy an Orvis Clearwater reel ($29) to match my present rod, but the rod is only 6.5 ft and is tough to cast for a beginner. Thanks One more thing: has anyone here used/purchased the $159 Orvis Clearwater combo? What do you think?

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Mark, I suppose I might be able to figure some way of glueing another piece of metal in there but it wouldn’t hold), I need to get a new one.

If you want to keep things as cheap as possible until you’re catching fish, why not try exchanging the broken reel at the store from which you bought it? Has anyone ever used/purchased one of the combos found on cabelas website like the Scientific Angler, Cabelas Letort, or the Pfleuger Medallist combo (though at only $29.95 I’m a bit hesitant to go with the Pfleuger combo). Any other combos worth taking a look at for under $75?

I’ve not purchased any rods from Cabelas, but that’s only because I build my own rods.  However, I _have_ purchased one of their Cahill II reels ($39) and it’s just fine.  It ain’t as pretty as my Lamsons, and its click drag is a little noisy, but it’s a solid, functional, lightweight, all-metal reel.  No complaints.  My wife and I also bought their Gore-Tex wading jackets and they are superb. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy anything from Cabelas because they have a "satisfaction guaranteed" policy. Cabelas new Christmas Catalog has what may be a HOT opportunity: A Scientific Anglers Concept Combo on sale for $49.95 (pg 268, item # LK-31-1295).  That’s about what you’d pay for a decent line alone! Hey, if you don’t like it, send it back.  If you do, but eventually "outgrow" it, you’ll have a decent "loaner" for a buddy. Wes Peterson LexCraft Data Services

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says… I was fishing today (no I haven’t caught anything yet) and my reel broke.

Dude that sucks no matter how cheap the reel is… I can certainly empathize. It was a cheap combo, 6.5 ft setup that only cost me $23 anyway (yeah guys, I just switched the line over to it this morning from that old Pfleuger Medallist I talked about in a previous post!), but I didn’t want to move up to a better outfit until I started to catch some fish and felt confident in selecting a better rod.

Rod aside, the one thing I learned is that a changeable reel is good! you can prespool various line types for different conditions. The trick is picking the reel… Read on…  Unfortunately with the reel breaking (the metal ring that holds the clicker in place broke off, I suppose I might be able to figure some way of glueing another piece of metal in there but it wouldn’t hold), I need to get a new one. I was just looking through the cabela website and noticed all of the inexpensive combo sets they have. If I had the cash, I would have just gone ahead and gotten the Orvis Clearwater combo from the local Orvis store for $159, but I really don’t feel comfortable spending that much as of yet (though I do have the itch!). My question is:

Ok, So my two cents are: Look for USED gear. I know I am beginning to sound like an add for the place but the Sporting Gentleman in Media had used gear. A buddy picked up a nice fenwick reel with a spare spool for $35! Aside from a little missing paint the reel was wonderful! I am know I am gonna start looking at this avenue to build up my arsenal. After all I don;t need no name brand or flashy gear. I wanna catch fish! — Michael Era

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T, Thanks for your thoughts regarding Mr. W. As I didn’t feel the need to expound on all of the details regarding this (minor) incident, I did mull over those issues that you mentioned.  It turns out that he was there when his talk was scheduled and our group did see him about an hour before his casting demo.  The floor manager is the person to pass along the info about his leaving and he was none to pleased.   Let’s just let put this one to bed and get back to fishing, which is the real reason for all of this drivel, Mad Dog

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I just got back from the San Francisco International Fly-Fishing Expo.  It was a great show with one notable exception.  Jose Wejebe chose to stand up the audience at a talk on salt water flyfishing and then to add insult to injury he left for Florida before his casting demo, again shortchanging showgoers who wanted to see him. A Sage rep filled in for him at the last moment and I credit the rep for doing the right thing. So much for Jose, just another big ego with no real knowledge of who makes celebrities exist at all… Mad Dog

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I just got back from the San Francisco International Fly-Fishing Expo.  It was a great show with one notable exception.  Jose Wejebe chose to stand up the audience at a talk on salt water flyfishing and then to add insult to injury he left for Florida before his casting demo, again shortchanging showgoers who wanted to see him. A Sage rep filled in for him at the last moment and I credit the rep for doing the right thing. So much for Jose, just another big ego with no real knowledge of who makes celebrities exist at all.

Don: I hold no brief for big ego celebrities, and think that the whole popularity of celebrity sportsman or celebrity whatevers is a one of the more distasteful aspects of our society (that is, for those who seek out such celebritydom) but don’t you think you might be jumping to conclusions based on one incident? I suspect Jose has family, friends, a life, etc., and for all that isn’t it possible a family member was ill, his house caught fire, his daughter was hit by a car, etc.? You might be right implying that it was no such thing, on the other hand, you might be wrong, and really smearing a decent fellow. Saw a quote once: "An intellectual is someone who’s mind watches itself." Seems to me in this case such watching might lead to using  a little imagination about what might have called Jose away before slamming the guy. At any rate…. T.

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Faster than a broomstick?

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Anyone who claims that Lamiglas rods have slow actions have not cast them. Besides, which line of lamiglas blanks are you referring to G-1000, Certified-Pro, LHS, IM-700? If the higher-end lamiglas blanks have a fault, it is that they are TOO FAST, not too slow.

Lamiglas still makes a line of glass rods.  They are very well made, and have a wonderfully slow action similar to split cane. Their GRAPHITE rods, OTOH, are like lightning. I like their style.  Most folks want a fast rod, but some people don’t, so they make something for everyone. CQ

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(Farkward P. Parkenfarker) writes:    Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly    Organization: Prehensile University    Their rods enjoy a certain cachet among steelheaders.  They have slower    actions than many of the high modulus jobs and many people prefer that.    To be fair, they tend to be a bit heavier than the competition. Anyone who claims that Lamiglas rods have slow actions have not cast them.

I bow before your obviously superior knowledge. Besides, which line of lamiglas blanks are you referring to G-1000, Certified-Pro, LHS, IM-700?

I’ve owned two G1000’s and one LHS.  I used them quite a lot, for steelhead and stripers, and I’m sure I know how they cast.   If the higher-end lamiglas blanks have a fault, it is that they are TOO FAST, not too slow.

I’m not sure what I did to provoke this, but if you insist, I’ll agree that Lamiglas makes the fastest damned rods on the planet. — "…but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." Article VI, US Constitution

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I own three Lamiglass rods.. Two flyrods and a Salmon/steelhead casting rod. The 8.5 ‘ 6/7 wt I have owned and fished steadily for 17 or 18 years. The 9′ 9wt I purchased three years ago for a trip to Alaska and it has been great. I use the Salmon/Steelhead for just that and some saltwater use as well. I have not seen these rods in the catalogs this year. If you can find them, they are a great buy and a great rod. Dave

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Check out:         www.lamiglas.com -tgades

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Check out their web site: www.lamiglas.com I’ve got quite a few of their rods, and I’m happy with them.  EXCELLENT customer service as well.      -tgades

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I own three Lamiglass rods.. Two flyrods and a Salmon/steelhead casting rod. The 8.5 ‘ 6/7 wt I have owned and fished steadily for 17 or 18 years. The 9′ 9wt I purchased three years ago for a trip to Alaska and it has been great. I use the Salmon/Steelhead for just that and some saltwater use as well. I have not seen these rods in the catalogs this year. If you can find them, they are a great buy and a great rod. Dave

Didn’t they have a fire at their plant a few years back?  I had the impression that they either went out of business or did so temporarily. Their rods enjoy a certain cachet among steelheaders.  They have slower actions than many of the high modulus jobs and many people prefer that. To be fair, they tend to be a bit heavier than the competition. — "…but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." Article VI, US Constitution

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   Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly    Organization: Prehensile University    Their rods enjoy a certain cachet among steelheaders.  They have slower    actions than many of the high modulus jobs and many people prefer that.    To be fair, they tend to be a bit heavier than the competition. Anyone who claims that Lamiglas rods have slow actions have not cast them. Besides, which line of lamiglas blanks are you referring to G-1000, Certified-Pro, LHS, IM-700? If the higher-end lamiglas blanks have a fault, it is that they are TOO FAST, not too slow. -tgades

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I know nothing of their fly rod blanks, however when I build a custome surf rod for myself or a friend I will use no other blank. They can not be touched !! — "The true Angler is content to fish alone" Brian Di Carlo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone in the news group have any experience with lamiglas rods? I was curious as to whether they are comparable to any of the more well known brands. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Dry Fly

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WHOA CHARLIE!  Are indicating here that you think "lamiglass" must mean that their fly rods are glass-fiber rods? You say it is a ‘cult’ rod?  Where did you ever come up with such a conclusion?  I would certainly call an Orvis Rod a cult rod… Just thought it should be said that Lamiglass Graphite Fly Rods are top of the line and anyone thinking of buying one couldn’t do better anywhere else in the world.

George, I’m sure you don’t hear it very much in this ng, but, you’re absolutely right! (Once again) my brevity has gotten me into trouble. I will write 1000 times, Lamiglas makes an outstanding graphite rod, one of the best, in as fast an action as anyone would want. I was speaking only of the lamiglas glass rods, which do have a strong following, and given the overwhelming popularity of graphite rods, it could be described as a "cult following".  (agree with you about the orvis comment, but the basis of THAT following is a bit more puzzling!). 8^) That said, the glass blanks (and rods?) are still available, and as far as I know, still in production.  I’m planning on building one this year. A nice 4 or 5 wt for the high country.  Can’t wait. Very glad you spoke up.   Guess I hit the Send button a little early on that one! …I haven’t heard anything about Eric Lieser for a long while.  Anyone know what he’s doing lately? Hell of a song writer too.

Can’t help you with that, but I’ll be looking for the CD… CQ

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Does anyone in the news group have any experience with lamiglas rods? I was curious as to whether they are comparable to any of the more well known brands. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Dry Fly

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Does anyone in the news group have any experience with lamiglas rods? I was curious as to whether they are comparable to any of the more well known brands. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

They are great rods, but more of a cult favorite.   I’m speaking of the glass rods here.  They don’t really compare well to the other more popular brands, as they have a slower action, for a slower, more relaxed, style of fishing; sort of a poor-man’s bamboo. CQ

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Does anyone in the news group have any experience with lamiglas rods? I was curious as to whether they are comparable to any of the more well known brands. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Dry Fly

Sweet stuff mate.  many of the "better" brands use Lamiglass blanks.

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This should be another good year for the American Shad.  They migrate up the rivers in the spring, along with the Stripers,  to spawn.  They were imported from the east coast in the late 1800’s, along with the Striped Bass.  Both species really took off and became major fisheries in the North West.  The Sacramento river and it tributaries, the American, Feather and Yuba rivers, have good runs if they have adequate water flows.  The mouth of the American river and the mouth of the Feather river are good early( April/May ) spots ( from a boat )for shad and stripers. As the season progresses ( May/June ), they move up the rivers, were you can wade and fly fish for them quite successfully.  They hold in tight schools like salmon, and average 2 to 3 pounds with tops around  7 pounds. If you want to do something new and exciting,  I recommend getting a guide with a boat and go have a ball.  Try these year-round, full-time, independent guides: 916/331-2001. William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA

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How about the Sacramento or Klamath for Shad? What time of year would you recommend? Thanks

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How about the Sacramento or Klamath for Shad? What time of year would you recommend? Thanks

   The Sacramento drainage will start to kick in in a few weeks. Look for the article on Sacramento shad in the upcoming issue of Flyfishing the West magazine. Start calling Keine’s Fly shop or Fly Fishing Specialties in a couple of weeks, they’re usually on top of whats going on in the valley.    Ralph —

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If you want to do something new and exciting,  I recommend getting a guide with a boat and go have a ball.  Try these year-round, full-time, independent guides: @ 916/331-2001.

I can personally recommend Bob Sparre.  He runs the Yuba mostly, and knows it well.  Offers raft trips for 4-6 fishermen.  Raft is for access only. Shad fishing is wading gravel bars.  Price is reasonable, about $80 a head for a full day I think.   John Woodling Sacramento, CA

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This should be another good year for the American Shad.  They migrate up the rivers in the spring, along with the Stripers,  to spawn.  They were imported from the east coast in the late 1800’s, along with the Striped Bass.  Both species really took off and became major fisheries in the North West.  The Sacramento river and it tributaries, the American, Feather and Yuba rivers, have good runs if they have adequate water flows.  The mouth of the American river and the mouth of the Feather river are good early( April/May ) spots ( from a boat )for shad and stripers. As the season progresses ( May/June ), they move up the rivers, were you can wade and fly fish for them quite successfully.  They hold in tight schools like salmon, and average 2 to 3 pounds with tops around  7 pounds. If you want to do something new and exciting,  I recommend getting a guide with a boat and go have a ball.  Try these year-round, full-time, independent guides: 916/331-2001. William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA

   You might also check out the article "California Shad" in the newest issue of Flyfishing the West magazine (I think it’ll be on the shelves within a week).    -Ralph —

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I am trying to plan my first trip to Alaska for silvers and/or steelhead. Have focused on the Kodiak area for a September trip. The outfitters I am considering are Olga Bay Lodge and Camp Kiklukh. Would appreciate hearing from anyone who has fished with these camps or can recommend a topnotch outfitter that offers quality catch and release flyfishing in Alaska or British Columbia in a remote fly-in location. I’ll be glad to pass on the info I’ve gathered to anyone who is interested.

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: I am trying to plan my first trip to Alaska for silvers and/or steelhead. : Have focused on the Kodiak area for a September trip. The outfitters I am : considering are Olga Bay Lodge and Camp Kiklukh. Would appreciate hearing : from anyone who has fished with these camps or can recommend a topnotch : outfitter that offers quality catch and release flyfishing in Alaska or : British Columbia in a remote fly-in location. I’ll be glad to pass on the : info I’ve gathered to anyone who is interested. : I can shed some light on Camp Kiklukh.  My dad made that trip last year.  He went the last part of August into September.  Now, to give the whole story, he found the claims of having sea run cutthroats, Dolly Varden, and rainbows to be untrue.  He caught a couple of Dollys and *heard* of a cutt being caught. There were not many of these fish around at all.  Now, as far as the silver fishing, he said it was AWESOME! They were taken (by air) to a nearby river, the Tsiu, to fish for silvers.  Many fish in the 12-16lb. range.  Later in the trip, the water levels in the rivers closer to camp came up so the fish were able to get into these rivers. In short, he found this to be a one fish fishery. He reported the food to be excellent and the accomodations very good.  The staff were always around to help and the whole operation was well organized. If you would like some info on some other Alaskan places, please email me. Kind regards, Steve Kernosky Michigan Tech. University

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My hands down favorite river is the Alagnak, which flows into Bristol Bay.  The best outfitter on the river is Charlie Summerville at Alaska’s Trophy Adventures, Box 31, King Salmon, AK, tel. 907-246-8230.  I’ve fished with Charlie many times and caught thousands of fish.  His prices are right, and you have your choice of several wilderness outcamps.  Great guides, great food and great fishing.  Give him a call and say hi for me. Bill Battles

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My hands down favorite river is the Alagnak, which flows into Bristol Bay. The best outfitter on the river is Charlie Summerville at Alaska’s Trophy Adventures, Box 31, King Salmon, AK, tel. 907-246-8230.  I’ve fished with Charlie many times and caught thousands of fish.  His prices are right, and you have your choice of several wilderness outcamps.  Great guides, great food and great fishing.  Give him a call and say hi for me. Bill Battles

Gee Bill, I didn’t know there were steelhead in the Alagnak. Rhea Wood N3489Y C-185 Alaska-Based Floatplane

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Hey, Rhea, you got me good on that one!  I’ll pay more attention to the "Re:" next time. Bill Battles

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Wanted to share my excitment as I caught a 7lb plus bass last week while fishing a pond on a golf course.  Caught her on a black Dahlberg diver I tied last winter when thinking about flyfishing.  Also caught two others close to 3 lbs.  All bass  were released so we could catch them next year!! Phil Wistrom

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Congratulations on you 7 pounder. That is a "Nice Bass". "Big Bass" start at 10 pounds.

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