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In little to know wind, you’ll be ok unless you’ve got a big bimini or hardtop to act as a sail.  I had a 28lb electric on the stern of a 20′ CC of 4000#s that was adequate in very light wind.  The light thrust was slow in starting or stopping, but worked fine once the mass got moving.  It was a high sided boat, so wind was a big problem if more than 10 knots.  Bow mounts are a lot easier to control and track better, so that would be preferrable to a stern mount.  I would have preferred a Bow mount of about 50 lbs, but did not want to incurr the cost of extra batteries and a new motor.  I already had the 28# motor from an earlier boat. BillS – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anyone used an engine mounted trolling motor on a boat of at least 19′? I have a 19′ cc fishing boat that usually has three people aboard and I wonder if one 55lb thrust motor is anywhere enough to move the boat or should I double up with the motors. I’m looking at the Navigator dual 110 (2 motors). Any info will be appreciated. Thanks,,,Ted

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Has anyone used an engine mounted trolling motor on a boat of at least 19′? I have a 19′ cc fishing boat that usually has three people aboard and I wonder if one 55lb thrust motor is anywhere enough to move the boat or should I double up with the motors. I’m looking at the Navigator dual 110 (2 motors). Any info will be appreciated. Thanks,,,Ted

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I’m interested in this subject too, although I have a lowly 14′ bowrider.  I would very much like to have a trolling motor, since 90% of what we do is fishing, but to put one on the bow would impair the little space available, and there is no room on the stern. We normally boat on small lakes with little to no current. — "Stay calm.  Be brave.  Wait for the signs." regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anyone used an engine mounted trolling motor on a boat of at least 19′? I have a 19′ cc fishing boat that usually has three people aboard and I wonder if one 55lb thrust motor is anywhere enough to move the boat or should I double up with the motors. I’m looking at the Navigator dual 110 (2 motors). Any info will be appreciated. Thanks,,,Ted

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There are some who equate 12-15# of thrust to one horsepower, although the two units of measure aren’t really the same and that number can sure be argued with. If a 3 hp outboard is enough to do what you want in the trolling department, it might work. They are quiet and inobtrusive. Look at a Minn Kota.  http://www.minnkotamotors.com/ This unit sure wouldn’t get you home on that boat in the event your main engine goes out unless you have ideal water/current/wind conditions and a LOT of batteries.

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8< Just wondering what other people do to search out fish. Peter

petah, i like swingin wets myself….. jeff miller uses cherry bombs. <g –walt

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Just wondering what other people do to search out fish.

Soft hackles, upstream quartering at varying depths, works for me in late spring and summer.  In Winter, weighted woolly buggers dragged along the bottom usually produce. In late Summer and Autumn, a large bushy dry fly occasionally skittered over the surface is often very productive. TL MC

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<< the penny dropped that swinging a caddis emerger may be a good searching method when everything else is coming up snake eyes.   << Just wondering what other people do to search out fish. Peter Soft hackles, in a size to match what ought to be hatching, or most common in the stream, if I have a clue what that might be.  Ants in Summer.  Grasshoppers in Summer near meadows.  Murray’s Helgrammite below riffles, just  because it produces a big strike once in a long while.  Ditto a crayfish imitation rolled through rocky areas. The best technique I know is to stay out of the water and watch very carefully.  If fish are feeding, eventually you’ll see some clues.  A brown flash of a side as a fish tears up the bottom; a bulge rise to something drowned near the surface; a white mouth flash in mid-water.   Good luck.  The search is the best part. Glenn GKT

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Soft hackles, in a size to match what ought to be hatching, or most common in the stream, if I have a clue what that might be.  Ants in Summer.  Grasshoppers in Summer near meadows.  Murray’s Helgrammite below riffles, just  because it produces a big strike once in a long while.  Ditto a crayfish imitation rolled through rocky areas.

It’s interesting that I started with soft hackles and they always worked well but the last few years, they’ve produced less for me. Back then, I didn’t have a clue what I was doing and I caught fish on them. Now I know what I am supposed to do and I don’t get much.  There’s a lesson in there somewhere. The best technique I know is to stay out of the water and watch very carefully. If fish are feeding, eventually you’ll see some clues.  A brown flash of a side as a fish tears up the bottom; a bulge rise to something drowned near the surface; a white mouth flash in mid-water.  

About the brown flash – on the Grand, I was doing exactly what you suggest, surveying for any sign of feeding fish.  I saw a flash – then some more.  I nymphed the buggers for close to an hour before hooking an landing one – a sucker!! Good luck.  The search is the best part. Glenn GKT

Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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8< Just wondering what other people do to search out fish. Peter petah, i like swingin wets myself….. jeff miller uses cherry bombs. <g –walt

wally, though it often sounds and looks like a cherry bomb exploding, it’s actually just my "delicate" presentation of a stimulator with a nymph dropper. best searching pattern i know for nc mountain streams… as you know peter, we rarely see the fish we stalk in the streams down here (except on certain delayed harvest waters maybe), and we just toss the fly into the most likely holding areas with eternal optimism and steely anticipation. the range of flies that will entice a fish is also probably smaller down here as well.. jeff

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"So anti-pragmatic is he who searches for his own soul in the shadow of the far bank, where success is not in the creatures he predates upon but in the interludes with fellow stream dwellers, for an exalting dance upon the line and rod, or with reserve upon the palate." — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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"The ancients wrote of the three ages of man; I propose to write of the three ages of the fisherman.  When he wants to catch all the fish he can.  When strives to catch the largest fish.  When he studies to catch the most difficult fish he can find, requiring the greatest skill and most refined tackle, caring more for the sport than the fish." Edward R. Hewitt A Trout and Salmon Fisherman for Seventy-Five Years (1948) — Warren Findley Shut up and fish! For Yellowstone Clave info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt/YNP.html

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"The ancients wrote of the three ages of man; I propose to write of the three ages of the fisherman.  When he wants to catch all the fish he can.  When strives to catch the largest fish.  When he studies to catch the most difficult fish he can find, requiring the greatest skill and most refined tackle, caring more for the sport than the fish." Edward R. Hewitt A Trout and Salmon Fisherman for Seventy-Five Years (1948)

Fly-fishing is the most fun you can have standing up.    - Arnold Gingrich, 1969 — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Fly-fishing is the most fun you can have standing up.    - Arnold Gingrich, 1969

"….knowing a river intimately is a very large part of the joy of fly fishing." Roderick L. Haig-Brown A River Never Sleeps (1946)

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"….knowing a river intimately is a very large part of the joy of fly fishing."

Deep down I’ve always known, fly fishing is to the rest of fishing what high seduction is to rape.    - Robert Traver – Trout Magic, 1974 — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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rw quoted: Deep down I’ve always known, fly fishing is to the rest of fishing what high seduction is to rape.    - Robert Traver – Trout Magic, 1974

What a bunch of snobbish hooey. — Ken Fortenberry

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What a bunch of snobbish hooey.

It’s just a quote. Take it up with Robert Traver. (Warning: He’s dead.) — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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 (Warning: He’s dead.)

hell, that ain’t never stopped forty in the past….. voelkerdammerung <g –waldo

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Deep down I’ve always known, fly fishing is to the rest of fishing what high seduction is to rape.

"You’re being a psuedointellectual horse’s ass again. This shit is supposed to be FUN." -Heard at a party, 1998. Spoken by a drunk, probably me. "Why can’t everybody else leave everybody else alone?"                               -Hank Junior

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 (Warning: He’s dead.) hell, that ain’t never stopped forty in the past….. voelkerdammerung <g –waldo

"To me heaven would be a big bull ring with me holding two barrera seats and a trout stream outside that no one else was allowed to fish in and two lovely houses in the town; one where I would have my wife and children and be monogamous and love them truly and well and the other where I would have my nine beautiful mistresses on nine different floors.    - Ernest Hemingway (1899-1961) (Note that he’s dead, too) — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Deep down I’ve always known, fly fishing is to the rest of fishing what high seduction is to rape.    - Robert Traver – Trout Magic, 1974

"There is no substitute for fishing sense, and if a man doesn’t have it, verily, he may cast like and angel and still use his creel largely to transport sandwiches and beer." Robert Traver Trout Madness, 1960 — Warren Findley Shut up and fish! For Yellowstone Clave info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt/YNP.html

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"You’re being a psuedointellectual horse’s ass again. This shit is supposed to be FUN." -Heard at a party, 1998. Spoken by a drunk, probably me.

"I waded to shore where I sat and considered the inconsistency of anglers in general and the dumbness of one in particular." Ray Bergman Trout, 1949 I think this one would have worked better Mike <g — Warren Findley Shut up and fish! For Yellowstone Clave info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt/YNP.html

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"There is no substitute for fishing sense, and if a man doesn’t have it, verily, he may cast like and angel and still use his creel largely to transport sandwiches and beer."

which is a damn good reason to own a creel! –walt….. have creel, will travel.

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After coming back from the Porkies and the AuSable, I spent Friday morning on the Grand.  Conditions were low, cold water, gin clear, high sun and no hatches.  I’ve always found that streamers were not productive in these conditions. Nymphing isn’t the best as high sticking puts you too close to the fish, long line nymphing is lousy for strike detection and then there’s the problem of picking the right run.   On the AuSable, the fish were rising but fussy.  I resorted to swinging a caddis emerger to the risers and ended up doing quite well. I’m sitting here doing not much of anything and the penny dropped that swinging a caddis emerger may be a good searching method when everything else is coming up snake eyes. (On the AuSable, I was swinging to rising fish and not using it as a searching method.) Just wondering what other people do to search out fish. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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I am planning a trip to the Escalante/ Otter creek reservoir area  next month. anyone know of a good shop and/or guide for Fly fishing that area. thanks , Glenn T.

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Yeah, try this guy. Fished with him at Lees Ferry and he will put you on fish. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am planning a trip to the Escalante/ Otter creek reservoir area  next month. anyone know of a good shop and/or guide for Fly fishing that area. thanks , Glenn T.

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Does any one out there have any info on fly fishing using a rudder.

Fly fishing with a drift control rudder (similar in effect to a lee board) is used on some of the large reservoirs in the English Midlands. These are really trolling techniques and a pretty far cry from what most of us regard as true fly fishing: usually using fast sink/lead core lines and big tandem lures or tube flies (dead blackbirds, etc.). They are, nevertheless, effective techniques for ’specimen hunting’ really big, dour browns and rainbows, that are not usually caught by conventional ‘fly’ fishing. The guy who can probably tell you most about rudder fishing is Steve Parton: a vastly experienced; plain talking and helpful tackle dealer based near Nottingham. He wrote a book that covered the subject pretty fully. It’s out of print now, but he might have a copy or two left. Tight Lines Tony Deacon P.S. Drogues are used very extensively on the English reservoirs and everyone calls them drogues.

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: Does any one out there have any info on fly fishing using a rudder. : : Well I am not too sure about fly-fishing with it, but if you look at the : shark thread on here, you might find it would be useful for bashing them on : the head with ? : Perhaps you could work it into a collage with the Nautical Art Deco Lamp ? : Seriously,  a rudder is not much use for steering a boat while flyfishing. : The best method is to have a boatman using oars to control the boat, if you : have enough way on to steer properly with a rudder, then the boat is usually : moving too fast.  A drogue is much more useful for controlling a drift, : especially if you are alone in the boat. : A drogue is a device usually made of strong cloth or similar, and placed in : the water on the end of a rope to act as a brake and steering device. : Depending on how and where it is placed, very precise drifting may be : achieved. It seems to me that drogue is an aeronautical term. Us old swabbies know it as a Sea Anchor! : Tight lines ! : Mike Connor — I’m a Canadian eh!                                              Steve. The FAQ for rec.crafts.metalworking is at: http://w3.uwyo.edu/~metal The metalworking drop box  is at           http://www.metalworking.com                                     or     http://208.213.200.132 Visit my website at: http://www.victoria.tc.ca/~ud233/homepage.htm

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Does any one out there have any info on fly fishing using a rudder.

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Does any one out there have any info on fly fishing using a rudder.

Well I am not too sure about fly-fishing with it, but if you look at the shark thread on here, you might find it would be useful for bashing them on the head with ? Perhaps you could work it into a collage with the Nautical Art Deco Lamp ? Seriously,  a rudder is not much use for steering a boat while flyfishing. The best method is to have a boatman using oars to control the boat, if you have enough way on to steer properly with a rudder, then the boat is usually moving too fast.  A drogue is much more useful for controlling a drift, especially if you are alone in the boat. A drogue is a device usually made of strong cloth or similar, and placed in the water on the end of a rope to act as a brake and steering device. Depending on how and where it is placed, very precise drifting may be achieved. Tight lines ! Mike Connor

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I went to a small creek nearby my home in central PA a couple of nights ago to continue my on the water "education" of fly fishing.  I had been to this same creek a couple of times recently and had success catching a few 10-12 inch brook trout (when I actually got my fly to go where I wanted it to!). I found a nice deep pool in this very small stream where a tree had fallen across the creek and caused a natural dam.  I could see several trout feeding there and hitting something on top so I started casting with a dry fly (Elk Hair Caddis, I think it’s called) and hooked a nice brook trout on my second or third cast. Being that the weather has been warm and the water level pretty low, I tried to bring the fish to hand as quickly as possible and don’t think I over played the trout at all.  I kept it mostly in the water to unhook it but it was a barbed hook and the trout was bleeding slightly from its lower jaw.  I got the hook out fairly quickly and made sure the trout was revived before letting it swim away…or so I thought. I kept fishing the hole for another ten or fifteen minutes and caught one more much smaller trout and released it.  Then I started to walk upstream to find another pool and I saw a shining gleam from the edge of the deep pool and realized that the first fish I caught was turned upside down in the hole and caught up on some debris and was in fact dying.  I didn’t have a net with me so I tried to get it with a stick to take it home but could not get it and stirred up so much muck that I lost sight of it. I move on but kept trying to figure out what must have gone wrong or what "rookie" mistake did I do to cause it to die. Is there a point where the water conditions just will not allow a trout to live if caught?  I don’t know what the water temp. was but I’m sure it was fairly warm (I am going to buy a stream thermometer but have not gotten one yet). Also, do most fly fisherman carry a creel just in case one dies during C&R? Please let me know if there is anything more I could have done to revive the trout.  BTW I am going to debarb my hooks from now on also. Tim

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I went to a small creek nearby my home in central PA a couple of nights ago

Tom – central PA has been hot and dry this spring.  Streams are low and warm. My educated guess would be water temperature – which lowers the oxygen content and on a stressed fish could well be fatal.    by the way, 10-12 inch brookies are good size for around here, so there are some nice fish in that stream. Mark Faulkner

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Hi Tim, There are several possibilities here. The first one is that it was just too warm, and the fish died because of combined stress and heat. It is best not to fish above certain temperatures, if you wish to release the fish, as the fish suffers  too much stress and often dies. Overplaying a fish will kill it as well. The other possibility is that it bled to death. Even a small hole in a fish which bleeds for a while will kill the fish fairly quickly. Fish do not have coagulating agents in their blood like mammals, and can not afford to lose much blood anyway. I have seen quite a few large Seatrout bleed to death quite quickly ( much less than half an hour in several cases ), after being released apparently unharmed. The probable cause of death was given as "blood depletion resulting in oxygen transfer  failure" by a laboratory which examined a couple of the dead fish.  In all the cases mentioned ( only two of the fish mentioned were actually examined by a professional lab), the hole left by the hook was fairly small, but obviously of a position and size sufficient to cause fatal blood loss. Several fish showed signs of distress fairly quickly, and only slight water staining ( blood ) was apparent from the mouth region when they were released. The fish mentioned were found fairly quickly at the pool outlets, and their gills were already looking a very unhealthy whitish pink colour, instead of the normal bright red. If a fish bleeds very much at all then you can write it off usually, it will not survive long. Surprisingly enough fish will often survive fairly major bodily injuries, like gashes from nets, or seals etc, especially in salt water, as long as they do not bleed too much. If they bleed however they are usually doomed. We catch quite a few fish which have been "stabbed" by herons, and they often survive this as long as they do not bleed from the gash, or are attacked by fungal or other parasites. Every year where I used to live in England we also had quite a few fish damaged by fungus etc, after being hooked and released. UDN was prevalent at the time, but this seemed to be a different sort of fungus, often originating at a hole caused by a hook, especially in the sides of the lower jaw, and also in many cases obviously by anglers handling fish with hot dry hands, the imprints left from this could be clearly seen on occasion. Has nothing to do with your problem of course, but I thought I would mention it anyway.  If you are going to handle fish, do so only with cool wet hands, and if possible avoid touching them at all, even slight damage to the protective slime will leave the fish open to disease etc. Rough dry nets are just as bad, knotted nylon being among the worst. If you fish catch and release it is easier to release fish if you use barbless hooks. Hope this helps. Tight lines ! Mike Connor

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Tim,   It’s possible you caught a fish that had be caught and released earlier that day or previous night. Lot’s of really good flyfishers are working those streams in the Central PA area.   If you’re new to the sport, check out Flyfishers’ Paradise in State College. They provided me with alot of great advice, and I bought alot of first rate equipment and supplies from them. Good Luck

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Tim, If you saw any blood at all, the fish probably died from blood loss. I’m sure the high water temp didn’t help either. You need to get a stream thermometer. Personally, I won’t fish water above 70 deg if I don’t intend to keep what I catch, and if I notice any bleeding from a fish, I will kill it unless the reg’s prohibit it. George Adams

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Just like anyone else in this group that practices Catch and Release it is really bad to see something like that that.  That fish will not just float and rot away.  That fish will make an excellent meal for others in its food chain.  Wether it be another fish, a fox, Racoon, Bear, otter, ect.  That fish will not go to waste.  I am not saying when you fish not to use extreme care when practicing Catch and Release but sometimes a problem like such can and does happen. Tight Lines and Warm Barrels. Jeremiah Weed

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Tim, There are several possibilities here. The first one is that it was just too warm, and the fish died because of combined stress and heat. It is best not to fish above certain temperatures, if you wish to release the fish, as the fish suffers  too much stress and often dies. Overplaying a fish will kill it as well. The other possibility is that it bled to death. Even a small hole in a fish which bleeds for a while will kill the fish fairly quickly. Fish do not have coagulating agents in their blood like mammals, and can not afford to lose much blood anyway. I have seen quite a few large Seatrout bleed to death quite quickly ( much less than half an hour in several cases ), after being released apparently unharmed. The probable cause of death was given as "blood depletion resulting in oxygen transfer  failure" by a laboratory which examined a couple of the dead fish.  In all the cases mentioned ( only two of the fish mentioned were actually examined by a professional lab), the hole left by the hook was fairly small, but obviously of a position and size sufficient to cause fatal blood loss. Several fish showed signs of distress fairly quickly, and only slight water staining ( blood ) was apparent from the mouth region when they were released. The fish mentioned were found fairly quickly at the pool outlets, and their gills were already looking a very unhealthy whitish pink colour, instead of the normal bright red. If a fish bleeds very much at all then you can write it off usually, it will not survive long. Surprisingly enough fish will often survive fairly major bodily injuries, like gashes from nets, or seals etc, especially in salt water, as long as they do not bleed too much. If they bleed however they are usually doomed. We catch quite a few fish which have been "stabbed" by herons, and they often survive this as long as they do not bleed from the gash, or are attacked by fungal or other parasites. Every year where I used to live in England we also had quite a few fish damaged by fungus etc, after being hooked and released. UDN was prevalent at the time, but this seemed to be a different sort of fungus, often originating at a hole caused by a hook, especially in the sides of the lower jaw, and also in many cases obviously by anglers handling fish with hot dry hands, the imprints left from this could be clearly seen on occasion. Has nothing to do with your problem of course, but I thought I would mention it anyway.  If you are going to handle fish, do so only with cool wet hands, and if possible avoid touching them at all, even slight damage to the protective slime will leave the fish open to disease etc. Rough dry nets are just as bad, knotted nylon being among the worst. If you fish catch and release it is easier to release fish if you use barbless hooks. Hope this helps. Tight lines ! Mike Connor

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One thing I have learned over the years is that if you hook a trout in the gills it will bleed to death so you might as well have it for dinner. Ernie Harrison Like to make fly-fishing stuff?  See: http://users.ccnet.com/~emh/

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The other possibility is that it bled to death. Even a small hole in a fish which bleeds for a while will kill the fish fairly quickly. Fish do not have coagulating agents in their blood like mammals, and can not afford to lose much blood anyway.

I agree with Mike on this one. In my experience, a bleeding fish ends up a dead fish. Nowadays, if a fish I catch bleeds, I don’t mess around: it gets whacked straight away. Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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[snip] I believe he also said that fishing with nymphs was the same as bait fishing, except without having to get your hands dirty. Got him in some kind of trouble, for sure. — Charlie…

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why do chicks dig jesus? (hold arms in shape of cross) Cause he’s hung like this  :) 12 years of catholic school and I’m still a heathen! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [snip] I believe he also said that fishing with nymphs was the same as bait fishing, except without having to get your hands dirty. Got him in some kind of trouble, for sure. — Charlie…

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12 years of catholic school and I’m still a heathen!

hey tom b.    don’t this ’splain alot –Wataugan Walt

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Remember to view New Testament accounts with skepticism.  Most of the witnesses to major events recorded there were fishermen! Al Soroka Vancouver, B.C.

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12 years of catholic school and I’m still a heathen! hey tom b.    don’t this ’splain alot –Wataugan Walt

Yep. Next, he’ll blame it on his friends and clientele. tb — Tom Brown The Signal Group Wake Forest, NC "For every complex problem, there is a solution that is simple, neat and wrong."   H.L. Mencken

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We already had some evidence. Albeit rather inconclusive. Quite a few of Georges

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On our recent trip to the Snake River (Oregon/Idaho border), we caught several small Crappies and took the little fillets off and used them for bait.  Needless to say, we ended up with about 100 fish between 3 and 4 pounds, which are excellent eating size.  The guts of crappie also work well.  Good luck!

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…. bought new Gambler, mama sez one of ‘em gotta go !!! Do like I did, let mama go.

Hmmmmmmm, Richard, I think you’ve got something there, buddy …. Let me think about this …. then I could probably keep both boats, my truck and afford a new truck also …… hmmmmmmm                        good fishing                          Jim

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: …. bought new Gambler, mama sez one of ‘em gotta go !!! :   : Do like I did, let mama go. : : : Hmmmmmmm, Richard, I think you’ve got something there, buddy …. Let me : think about this …. then I could probably keep both boats, my truck and : afford a new truck also …… hmmmmmmm Yep pretty much what I did. Now I have a 17.5 foot ProCraft and a new 20 foot Ranger. And a new suburban to pull it with. Course I still have my old 87 van to drive to work. Works for me. Good fishing, All About Computers      | (810) 456-3894 (work) 2887 Pontiac Ct.         | (810) 373-6865 (home) Auburn Hills, Michigan   | Single and not taking applications. 48326                    | Interviews maybe.

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Hmmmmmmm, Richard, I think you’ve got something there, buddy …. Let me think about this …. then I could probably keep both boats, my truck and afford a new truck also …… hmmmmmmm Yep pretty much what I did. Now I have a 17.5 foot ProCraft and a new 20foot Ranger. And a new suburban to pull it with. Course I still have my old 87 van to drive to work.

Exactly , I would have the 17′ tracker, 19′3" gambler, my 86 Ford F250 (200,000 miles and still going strong, FORD TUFF), then could get my new 97 F350 ….. with gun rack, new 30-30 or 30-06 or politically incorrect socalled "assault weapon" just to tick off the liberals … sounds like a plan, buddy ……                 see ya on the water  (Potomac, that is)                     Jim

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: 1995 Tracker Pro 17 with 25hp merc OB … Motor guide 37lb trolling motor : fully equipped with 2 humminbird Wide Eye fishfinders (bow and console : mounted) *** Trailstar trailer *** Excellent condition   $4500.00 : located in Spotsylvania, VA  fished on freshwater lakes and Potomac river : only …. bought new Gambler, mama sez one of ‘em gotta go !!! Do like I did, let mama go. Expensive at first but now I have two bass boats. Good fishing, All About Computers      | (810) 456-3894 (work) 2887 Pontiac Ct.         | (810) 373-6865 (home) Auburn Hills, Michigan   | Single and not taking applications. 48326                    | Interviews maybe.

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1995 Tracker Pro 17 with 25hp merc OB … Motor guide 37lb trolling motor fully equipped with 2 humminbird Wide Eye fishfinders (bow and console mounted) *** Trailstar trailer *** Excellent condition   $4500.00 located in Spotsylvania, VA  fished on freshwater lakes and Potomac river only …. bought new Gambler, mama sez one of ‘em gotta go !!!

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What bait is good for channel cats in medium sized lakes? I’ve only caught one once and it was by accident, in Florida, on a fly! Thanks for any help, Dave in Spokane, WA… known on IRC as "Dubbing"

In lieu of live bait or chicken livers, I’ve specifically seen channel cats take small crappie spinners, i.e. Roadrunners.  Also, small crankbaits work as well.  Not to mention plastic worms.  Now I’m not sure about other species of cats though. — **                           ** **   David Meyers **                           **

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Well, I’d just like to say something. Being from the same state, I can testify that Washington doesn’t allow live fish as bait.

That’s true here in Oklahoma, as well, at least if the fish is considered a "gamefish" species.  It doesn’t include minnows.  Also, nightcrawlers or earthworms work well for channel cats. If you can’t use live bait of any kind, that’s no problem.  Catfish love chicken livers and all sorts of prepared baits that are commercially available.  Dried beef blood also works well. Nor do they allow fishing with more than one rod.

That’s true only in some areas here.  If you can only use 1 rod, it makes it harder to try a variety of baits all at once.  You may be allowed to use multiple hooks on 1 line.  If so, this can help. You can’t even troll at different depths.

No problem here.  Although I have heard of people catching channel cats while trolling, they are not a fish one trolls for.  You find a good hole and sit on it. Stupid, I know, but that’s the way it is. Any other suggestions? I’m interested in catfish myself, and the only other type here is bullheads.

Does your state allow chumming?  That means throwing some kind of food into an area to attract the fish and stimulate feeding.  You can buy commercial catfish chum, or just buy a big bag of cheap dog food.  Throw some in an area before you start fishing.  You can also chum a spot every day at the same time for up to 2 weeks before you actually start fishing.  The cats will be there waiting for "feeding time" when you show up to catch ‘em.  Of course, this may not be legal in your state. Hope this helps.  Good luck and good fishing! Richard

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Well, I’d just like to say something. Being from the same state, I can testify that Washington doesn’t allow live fish as bait. Nor do they allow fishing with more than one rod. You can’t even troll at different depths. Stupid, I know, but that’s the way it is. Any other suggestions? I’m interested in catfish myself, and the only other type here is bullheads. Arklier Firsty is the best!

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What bait is good for channel cats in medium sized lakes? I’ve only caught one once and it was by accident, in Florida, on a fly! Thanks for any help, Dave in Spokane, WA… known on IRC as "Dubbing"

‘ ‘ I’ve recently just gotten into catching channel cats, there are a ton of commercial channel cat baits available, any of them will do. The "blood" baits work good also. Liver, shrimp, bacon strips(raw), will do also. I’ve read where channel cats would prefer to eat the fresher tasting meats if available. Here’s also a few "house baits" that I have seen proven to work when your pressed for time and money: Soap Cotton Balls soaked with anything stinky Marshmellows Hot Dog Chunks Lunch meats Onion Chunks – (weird eh?) Apple Chunks With cats just about anything with a scent will attract them! p.s. Don’t forget to "chum" them in with a bag of crunchy dog food!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: What bait is good for channel cats in medium sized lakes? I’ve only caught one once and it was by accident, in Florida, on a fly! Thanks for any help, Dave in Spokane, WA… known on IRC as "Dubbing" Channel cats will eat damned near anything.  I’ve caught them on minnows, worms (nightcrawlers), crawdads, chicken livers (& gizzards), and homemade stinkbait (not for the faint of heart .  I’ve seen my uncle catch them using possum grapes and mulberries, when these were ripe on the trees along the creek bank (matching the hatch .  There is also a wide variety of commercial baits available for channel cats. Which one of these will work best depends on the location and conditions. When I go catfish fishing, I try to take a variety of baits.  I use 3 rods and bait up with a little of everything.  If the fish show a preference for one type of bait, I switch to that one. I hope this helps.  Good luck and good fishing! Richard Had a catfish guide take me out on Lake Marion (Santee Cooper) S.

Carolina. They use live shad. I would think any small fish would do. They cut the tail off the fish so as to leave a blood trail as they drift. Check out the rig they use. Its a 6" section of parachute cord ( any armynavy store will have this). Fill it with split shot and seal it with a lighter. With a snap swivel and 3′ of line connect it to the bottom of a three way swivel, put your bait out on a 2′ leader. You can cover alot of ground and not a single hang up. Tight lines…..Alex

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What bait is good for channel cats in medium sized lakes? I’ve only caught one once and it was by accident, in Florida, on a fly! Thanks for any help, Dave in Spokane, WA… known on IRC as "Dubbing"

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What bait is good for channel cats in medium sized lakes? I’ve only caught one once and it was by accident, in Florida, on a fly! Thanks for any help, Dave in Spokane, WA… known on IRC as "Dubbing"

Channel cats will eat damned near anything.  I’ve caught them on minnows, worms (nightcrawlers), crawdads, chicken livers (& gizzards), and homemade stinkbait (not for the faint of heart .  I’ve seen my uncle catch them using possum grapes and mulberries, when these were ripe on the trees along the creek bank (matching the hatch .  There is also a wide variety of commercial baits available for channel cats. Which one of these will work best depends on the location and conditions. When I go catfish fishing, I try to take a variety of baits.  I use 3 rods and bait up with a little of everything.  If the fish show a preference for one type of bait, I switch to that one. I hope this helps.  Good luck and good fishing! Richard

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Does any one have a pattern for tying the viva fly an gif or jpg would also be nice thanks in advance Julian

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Does any one have a pattern for tying the viva fly an gif or jpg would also be nice thanks in advance Julian

hi julian hook: s/s 10 body: black chenille,ribbed silver tail: flou green floss wing: black marabou tight lines keith —  Your worst day fishing beats your best day at work

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Try the AMI Rec Net at: http://www.aminews.com/ami Centralized source for outdoor news and info. Several fly fishing pages linked. Looking for good stats and other pages on fly fishing. Enjoy, Rob Brown Webmaster

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: Here is a listing I maintain on the Missouri Flyfishing Page of other : flyfishing links: : State or Regional Flyfishing Pages : Arizona : California : Colorado : Montana : Oregon This has shamed me.  Nothing in Idaho.  But will it motivate me?  I’ve been thinking of listing all the rivers in Idaho I know of which offer at least 5 miles of good trout water.  The barrier to my action has been that the list is over 150 in number.  Just the larger streams, nothing small.  So…would anyone out there be interested in this type of info?  I’m usually against these types of lists.  All it does is add to the crowds, but perhaps I’m wrong.  Advice? Rick — T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    |  These University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    |  opinions Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. |  are mine.  

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i just got www access and would like the www sites of any fly or not fly fishing pages.  email or post in reply please. –

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i just got www access and would like the www sites of any fly or not fly fishing pages.  email or post in reply please. –

The Virtual Flyshop: http://rmii.com/~flyshop/flyshop.html Enjoy! — Mike Tucker- The Virtual Flyshop, The Complete Resource              Web Page:  http://rmii.com/~flyshop/flyshop.html              Tel. 970-498-8779   FAX 970-491-2585 If you try 970 and it doesn’t work use 303.  Leave it to US WEST to change our area code and not tell the rest of the world……

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Does anyone have information on flyfishing on the Olympic Peninsula.  Lakes, streams, river, salt, etc. Alan

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While looking through some fishing catalogs that have recently made it to my mailbox, a question came to mind… I know that a tapered leader is an option…and so is a knotted taper… my question is, can I use "regular" monofilament for the taper or even the tippet for that matter…I mean, isn’t it all essentially the same stuff? Also, I stumbled across a "Hobbs Creek Combo" in the Bass Pro catalog… it’s a 8-1/2 ft 7 wt w/ a rod bag, wf-7-f line, 100 yd backing and a tapered leader thrown in…all for the unbelievably low price of $94.95…that’s right, only 94.95…so call now…uh, sorry…sales pitc mode…does anyone have any experience with this combo?  or any other combos in this "super-cheapy" range?  There’s also a graphite rod combo for $179.94 that might be a better "investment"…anyhow, if you have the catalog, look on page 50 and 51 and let me know if any of these are worth looking at… Fish on!, JC

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