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central PA. Third week of July. Need guide and/or boat rental info,

http://www.billsguideservice.com/ RichZ

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Isn't the ice out where you live yet?

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I didn’t even make the freaking list–nor did I go fishing this weekend. Man alive. I guess I’m gonna hafta call my mom and tell her never to come visit again. Otherwise, I won’t be able to keep up with the Joneses…er, Wolfgangs. –Steve

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Geez, I go home for the weekend, and when I fire up the computer on Monday morning and check out ROFF, I find 600 messages!  Some of which were even about fishing!

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…         but a night with the check out lady at the pixie motel after an evening embellished by a neil young cd marathon and re-heated pizza during rest breaks would render you positively cuddly, forty ol man.

I’m confident that "little wayno’s cuddle therapy and aerobic exercise program" would render me cuddly but I’m afraid I just couldn’t bring myself to eat re-heated pizza. — Ken Fortenberry- gotta draw the line somewhere

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Lemme guess, are you in Minnesota, or thereabouts?  We had a system blow through here on Friday, had a good 7 inches on the ground Saturday morning. Put a real damper on the weekend fishing plans.

Nope..Denver.  It snowed pretty much all day Saturday, but without significant accumulation.  Sunday was nice, though, and yesterday was 80s again.

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day tripper writes: CRAP! I’ve slipped to number 14 – even HWMNBN held me higher than that! /daytripper (I was Number 6 once! ;^)

And yesterday you were in #2, deep into #2 with a broken wading stick!   Shoot, if we didn’t go fishing yesterday, we coulda both been higher in the stats. Dave LaCourse

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Hell Kevin, I couldn’t be "really nice" if you promised me a private concert by the Guarneri String Quartet, dinner for two catered by Rick Bayless and a night of sweaty sex with Gabrielle Reece.

        of course not; who could, left to be entertained by those pallid pretenders.         but a night with the check out lady at the pixie motel after an evening embellished by a neil young cd marathon and re-heated pizza during rest breaks would render you positively cuddly, forty ol man.         wayno

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<list snipped Damn, I better start participating more. bc. — Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. -Benjamin Franklin

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Not yet maybe some time in the next week

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Geez, I go home for the weekend, and when I fire up the computer on Monday morning and check out ROFF, I find 600 messages!  Some of which were even about fishing! Here are the most prolific posters, in order: 61  Wolfgang Siebeniech 38  Muskie 27  Chip Bartholomay 25  Dave LaCourse     Vern Ursenbach 23  Guyz N Flyz     Ken Fortenberry 20  ET1 19  Charlie Choc 18  JeffC 1474 17  flyfish     MFassett     Peter Charles 15  Daytripper 14  Mike Connor     rw 13  Walt Winter     Wayne Harrison 10  Dave Snedeker     Warren Findley Let’s see, I have been out of the office for about 64 hours or so.  Assuming that Wolfgang sleeps 8 hours per night (though I frankly don’t have much faith in that assumption) then he was awake for 40 hours, then he fires off an average of 1.525 posts per hour while he is awake.  Though when I look at the time stamps on his posts, he often fires off messages in bursts of more than one per minute.  Hell, I couldn’t even type that fast, much less read all of the messages and think of what I wanted to say. Look out the windows, boys; its spring!  Time to go fishing! Next weekend is a holiday, and you most likely don’t have to go to work on Friday.  Pull the plug on that damn computer, load up the fly rods and the kids and the dog or whatever, and go fishing.  Get a tan on that pasty white skin.  Next Monday, I want to see some fishing reports on here, dammit! Wolfgang, I believe its time for your friends and loved ones to do an intervention… Kevin PS.  The doctor also prescribes that you should all catch, kill, fry, and eat one cast-iron skillet full of your favorite panfish. He believes that will go a long way towards calming down the level of bitchiness that has been permeating the board for quite some time now.

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Geez, I go home for the weekend, and when I fire up the computer on Monday morning and check out ROFF,

        great post.         to paraphrase a great american, who was speaking about a small college in new hampshire, may i say this about roff:         it is a small place, sir; but there are those of us who love it. wayno

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stuck in the middle again…. Flyfish

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Geez, I go home for the weekend, and when I fire up the computer on Monday morning and check out ROFF, I find 600 messages!  Some of which were even about fishing! Here are the most prolific posters, in order: 61  Wolfgang Siebeniech 38  Muskie 27  Chip Bartholomay 25  Dave LaCourse     Vern Ursenbach 23  Guyz N Flyz     Ken Fortenberry 20  ET1 19  Charlie Choc 18  JeffC 1474 17  flyfish     MFassett     Peter Charles 15  Daytripper 14  Mike Connor     rw 13  Walt Winter     Wayne Harrison 10  Dave Snedeker     Warren Findley Let’s see, I have been out of the office for about 64 hours or so.  Assuming that Wolfgang sleeps 8 hours per night (though I frankly don’t have much faith in that assumption) then he was awake for 40 hours, then he fires off an average of 1.525 posts per hour while he is awake.  Though when I look at the time stamps on his posts, he often fires off messages in bursts of more than one per minute.  Hell, I couldn’t even type that fast, much less read all of the messages and think of what I wanted to say. Look out the windows, boys; its spring!  Time to go fishing! Next weekend is a holiday, and you most likely don’t have to go to work on Friday.  Pull the plug on that damn computer, load up the fly rods and the kids and the dog or whatever, and go fishing.  Get a tan on that pasty white skin.  Next Monday, I want to see some fishing reports on here, dammit! Wolfgang, I believe its time for your friends and loved ones to do an intervention… Kevin PS.  The doctor also prescribes that you should all catch, kill, fry, and eat one cast-iron skillet full of your favorite panfish. He believes that will go a long way towards calming down the level of bitchiness that has been permeating the board for quite some time now.

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Geez, I go home for the weekend, and when I fire up the computer on Monday morning and check out ROFF, I find 600 messages!  Some of which were even about fishing! Here are the most prolific posters, in order: 61  Wolfgang Siebeniech 38  Muskie 27  Chip Bartholomay 25  Dave LaCourse     Vern Ursenbach 23  Guyz N Flyz     Ken Fortenberry 20  ET1 19  Charlie Choc 18  JeffC 1474 17  flyfish     MFassett     Peter Charles 15  Daytripper 14  Mike Connor     rw 13  Walt Winter     Wayne Harrison 10  Dave Snedeker     Warren Findley Let’s see, I have been out of the office for about 64 hours or so.  Assuming that Wolfgang sleeps 8 hours per night (though I frankly don’t have much faith in that assumption) then he was awake for 40 hours, then he fires off an average of 1.525 posts per hour while he is awake.  Though when I look at the time stamps on his posts, he often fires off messages in bursts of more than one per minute.  Hell, I couldn’t even type that fast, much less read all of the messages and think of what I wanted to say. Look out the windows, boys; its spring!  Time to go fishing! Next weekend is a holiday, and you most likely don’t have to go to work on Friday.  Pull the plug on that damn computer, load up the fly rods and the kids and the dog or whatever, and go fishing.  Get a tan on that pasty white skin.  Next Monday, I want to see some fishing reports on here, dammit! Wolfgang, I believe its time for your friends and loved ones to do an intervention… Kevin PS.  The doctor also prescribes that you should all catch, kill, fry, and eat one cast-iron skillet full of your favorite panfish. He believes that will go a long way towards calming down the level of bitchiness that has been permeating the board for quite some time now.

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Here are the most prolific posters, in order:

What’s the ranking by word count? Who uses the most vowels? — Charlie…

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Geez, … I find 600 messages! …  

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and hazard a guess that you were not forced at gunpoint to read even one of those messages. Which begs the question, what in the hell are you whining about ? — Ken Fortenberry

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sunofabeech… the thought of wayno posting as much as me just rankles the shitoughta me. 14 at ya wayno ;^) waldo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Geez, I go home for the weekend, and when I fire up the computer on Monday morning and check out ROFF, I find 600 messages!  Some of which were even about fishing! Here are the most prolific posters, in order: 61  Wolfgang Siebeniech 38  Muskie 27  Chip Bartholomay 25  Dave LaCourse     Vern Ursenbach 23  Guyz N Flyz     Ken Fortenberry 20  ET1 19  Charlie Choc 18  JeffC 1474 17  flyfish     MFassett     Peter Charles 15  Daytripper 14  Mike Connor     rw 13  Walt Winter     Wayne Harrison 10  Dave Snedeker     Warren Findley Let’s see, I have been out of the office for about 64 hours or so.  Assuming that Wolfgang sleeps 8 hours per night (though I frankly don’t have much faith in that assumption) then he was awake for 40 hours, then he fires off an average of 1.525 posts per hour while he is awake.  Though when I look at the time stamps on his posts, he often fires off messages in bursts of more than one per minute.  Hell, I couldn’t even type that fast, much less read all of the messages and think of what I wanted to say. Look out the windows, boys; its spring!  Time to go fishing! Next weekend is a holiday, and you most likely don’t have to go to work on Friday.  Pull the plug on that damn computer, load up the fly rods and the kids and the dog or whatever, and go fishing.  Get a tan on that pasty white skin.  Next Monday, I want to see some fishing reports on here, dammit! Wolfgang, I believe its time for your friends and loved ones to do an intervention… Kevin PS.  The doctor also prescribes that you should all catch, kill, fry, and eat one cast-iron skillet full of your favorite panfish. He believes that will go a long way towards calming down the level of bitchiness that has been permeating the board for quite some time now.

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A check was done on ROFF to see who was most prolific, Wolfgang won with sixty one, 1.525 per hour to be specific. Charlie asked then for more info, especially regarding vowels, perhaps it would be more informative to check on movements of the bowels ? This would explain a lot, and is not at all designed to slight the winner, but quite a lot of posts arise it seems from an undigested dinner, it is well known that poor digestion may result in bellyaching, and even those without this malady, seem pretty good at faking. TL MC — "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

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/daytripper (I was Number 6 once! ;^)

Yeah, yeah.  You coulda been a contender.  Bunch a has beens and never wases.  Come ta Nort Carolina kid, I’ll learn ya sumthin.

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If you’re really nice to me, I might be able to tell you where to find a spring-fed cool water stream that has smallmouth and rock bass in it, only minutes away from the Cham-bana city limits.  But only if you’re really nice… Kevin MS Math, ‘86, UIUC

Kevin, Would you be so kind as to do me and a few other clavesters a favor…. don’t tell Ken… tell me/us. We’ll have a blast listening to him begging and whining for the details at the upcoming clave :) …. hell, he may even be civil if we play our cards right :) waldo

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… If I was, I might complain about the tone of hostility in some of the posts, but I’ve noticed that everybody who’s done that in the past has been flamed medium rare.

Whiners rarely get off medium rare. They’re usually flamed to a blackened piece of charred cinder. …  But only if you’re really nice…

Hell Kevin, I couldn’t be "really nice" if you promised me a private concert by the Guarneri String Quartet, dinner for two catered by Rick Bayless and a night of sweaty sex with Gabrielle Reece. — Ken Fortenberry

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I’m gonna go out on a limb here and hazard a guess that you were not forced at gunpoint to read even one of those messages. Which begs the question, what in the hell are you whining about ? — Ken Fortenberry

Don’t worry, I didn’t bother reading them all, and I wasn’t whining. Merely expressing amazement…  If I was, I might complain about the tone of hostility in some of the posts, but I’ve noticed that everybody who’s done that in the past has been flamed medium rare.  So I definitely won’t complain about that. If you’re really nice to me, I might be able to tell you where to find a spring-fed cool water stream that has smallmouth and rock bass in it, only minutes away from the Cham-bana city limits.  But only if you’re really nice… Kevin MS Math, ‘86, UIUC

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Also, in my own defense, I must say that I was pissing away my time at work, not my fishing time.  :-) I’ll quit now before I make my own list. Kevin

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Geez, I go home for the weekend, and when I fire up the computer on Monday morning and check out ROFF, I find 600 messages!  Some of which were even about fishing! Here are the most prolific posters, in order: 61  Wolfgang Siebeniech 38  Muskie 27  Chip Bartholomay 25  Dave LaCourse    Vern Ursenbach 23  Guyz N Flyz    Ken Fortenberry 20  ET1 19  Charlie Choc 18  JeffC 1474 17  flyfish    MFassett    Peter Charles 15  Daytripper 14  Mike Connor    rw 13  Walt Winter    Wayne Harrison 10  Dave Snedeker    Warren Findley

CRAP! I’ve slipped to number 14 – even HWMNBN held me higher than that! /daytripper (I was Number 6 once! ;^)

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I got a staff writes this shit for me.  Frankly, I rarely even check the board any more; who’s got time to read?.  I get hourly synopses from my secretary.  I tell her "three fuck yous, two one liners, and a couplea hey good buddies", or whatever.  Two, three lawyers and a couplea high school kids sits in the back room and write.  I get a sheet with all kindsa crap on it.  I check this one, cross out that one, yada, yada, yada.  61 over the course of the weekend, huh?  Somebody’s slippin in some of his own stuff.  I never authorized that many.  Heads will fuckin roll!!  Thanks for the heads up.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Here are the most prolific posters, in order: 61  Wolfgang Siebeniech 38  Muskie 27  Chip Bartholomay 25  Dave LaCourse     Vern Ursenbach 23  Guyz N Flyz     Ken Fortenberry 20  ET1 19  Charlie Choc 18  JeffC 1474 17  flyfish     MFassett     Peter Charles 15  Daytripper 14  Mike Connor     rw 13  Walt Winter     Wayne Harrison 10  Dave Snedeker     Warren Findley Let’s see, I have been out of the office for about 64 hours or so.  Assuming that Wolfgang sleeps 8 hours per night (though I frankly don’t have much faith in that assumption) then he was awake for 40 hours, then he fires off an average of 1.525 posts per hour while he is awake.  Though when I look at the time stamps on his posts, he often fires off messages in bursts of more than one per minute.  Hell, I couldn’t even type that fast, much less read all of the messages and think of what I wanted to say. Look out the windows, boys; its spring!  Time to go fishing! Next weekend is a holiday, and you most likely don’t have to go to work on Friday.  Pull the plug on that damn computer, load up the fly rods and the kids and the dog or whatever, and go fishing.  Get a tan on that pasty white skin.  Next Monday, I want to see some fishing reports on here, dammit! Wolfgang, I believe its time for your friends and loved ones to do an intervention…

Of course one could say the same about someone who went through the trouble of compiling a listing of the number of times people posted in a 64 hour period….     – Ken

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Look out the windows, boys; its spring!  Time to go fishing!

Yep…sure is, but it snowed here Saturday, so there was not much fishing opportunity.  Had to do something!

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Of course one could say the same about someone who went through the trouble of compiling a listing of the number of times people posted in a 64 hour period….     – Ken

Actually, that very thought occured to me while I was doing it. Fortunately, thanks the miracle of modern technology, it didn’t take but a few clicks of the mouse to do.  I do graciously accept the honorable mention prize in the time wasting competition. Kevin

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Look out the windows, boys; its spring!  Time to go fishing! Yep…sure is, but it snowed here Saturday, so there was not much fishing opportunity.  Had to do something!

Lemme guess, are you in Minnesota, or thereabouts?  We had a system blow through here on Friday, had a good 7 inches on the ground Saturday morning. Put a real damper on the weekend fishing plans. Kevin

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Fly fishing on Grenada?

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Hi All, Any bonefish flats around Grenada? Thnaks

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Hi All, Any bonefish flats around Grenada? Thnaks

Bill, Grenada is a hilly, volcanic island where the water depth drops rapidly as you move away from the shore.  I am not aware of any extensive stretches of shallow water like you find in Florida and the Bahamas.  There are some relatively shallow areas with reefs (the southern shore comes to mind), but I don’t think these are the types of places fisherman describe as "flats." I have chartered sailboats in Grenada, but I have not fished there. Perhaps another poster familiar with fishing in the area can help you. Ernie Carnicelli

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » pike fishing

pike fishing

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get ahold of Lindwood Lodge which is located on Lake Neimeben which is northern Satc  you will have tired arms from catching Northerns all day long in a 45 mile long lake. and I will answer ? you may have. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -we just want to catch fish we just want to catch fish

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for the past 10 yrs. my friends and i have gone to canada for pike fishing , each year the catch is less and less , we are looking for anything. fly-in, drive-in any ideas. we just want to catch fish

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Often your best bet is to wait until you get there and buy what the resort recommends – or at least call the resort owner and ask him what he recommends. — – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -please help me answer some inquiries, i am going fishing in SE ontario canada and would like to know the best bait or lures to use.

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going pike fishing, wondering what is the best lures or bait to use in se ontario

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please help me answer some inquiries, i am going fishing in SE ontario canada and would like to know the best bait or lures to use.

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going pike fishing, wondering what is the best lures or bait to use in se ontario

You can’t go wrong with a weedless five od diamonds.  Red or Black!!

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please help me answer some inquiries, i am going fishing in SE ontario canada and would like to know the best bait or lures to use.

Sorry for the spelling error.  That was the five OF diamonds for pike.   Weedless ones work the best.  Use the red on yellow or the black on yellow.  Good luck, but Pike will bite almost anything.

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how late in the season can you fish for pike. is there any special tactics for cold weather pike fishing.Thanks Al Angling applied to business

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how late in the season can you fish for pike. is there any special tactics for cold weather pike fishing.Thanks Al Angling applied to business

Pike prefer cold water and the fishing only gets better as the water cools down.  In deep water lakes the monsters stay deep when the water is warm.   Smaller pike are not as affected & will be caught all summer long in shallow water but the big ones only come in temps come down.  So until ice over you will see more pike in shallow.   As for tactics I prefer big bait for big fish.   7" or larger live suckers on either a circle hook or quick strike rig.  When you feel a strike you’ll need to give it time to eat it (less so for the quick strike rig).  Best to remain on top of it trolling to keep up with it as it moves.  Set your hook & hold on. For lures, spinner baits, suicks & big cranks can produce too. They continue to be catchable throught the ice but I seldom ice fish so I can’t advise there. DD

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What is the best lure for pike fishing?

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I like a chartruese Swim Wizz or Believer.   6" in the spring…..8" later.   Works for me. Rich

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I don’t know if there is a "best lure" but I have had good luck with the Mepps #5 if you like to throw spinners. Also any wobbler, such as daredevel. What is the best lure for pike fishing?

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Spinning Woolly Bugger

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Fiddleaway, Check your tippet next time this happens. If your Woolly Bugger is spinning clockwise, next time you tie you should palmer anticlockwise. You may accidentally be tying the version required for fishing in the southern hemisphere. Easy! Cheers John Knight Sydney Fly Rodders’

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Fiddleaway, How heavy a leader are you using?  If it’s too light, that might exacerbate the problem. Pete C

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I think that’s it mate. I can probably test my patterns in the tub drain eddy in the bathroom! Thanks. —                                                       -dnc- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Fiddleaway, Check your tippet next time this happens. If your Woolly Bugger is spinning clockwise, next time you tie you should palmer anticlockwise. You may accidentally be tying the version required for fishing in the southern hemisphere. Easy! Cheers John Knight Sydney Fly Rodders’

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I give up! No matter which orientation I use for the palmer hackle (barbs toward eye or away from eye) my wooly buggers end up twirling (don’t know if it’s when I cast or as I retrieve, but I assume it’s the former).  Eventually, the tippet gets so fouled up I have to change it.  What a pain. I cannot for the life of me figure out what’s different between mine and the commercially tied ones (which do not exhibit the problem). Any suggestions? —                                                       -dnc-

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FiddleAway, could it be that you are using a dry fly hackle and the commercial flies are tid with a softer wet fly hackle? Just guessing.             Jim

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Two Suggestions: 1.  Put your weight on the front half of the hook and dub filler on the rest beore you use the chenille. 2.  Either bead heads or lead eyes help to stabilize the fly. 3.  You may not have enough tailing maribou–works kind of like a kite in the wind for this type of fly. Hope this helps. ECJ

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I use died saddle feathers which seem of fairly wet quality.  But stiffness is not a quality I’ve paid attention to, so I’ll take more care.  Thanks. —                                                       -dnc- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – FiddleAway, could it be that you are using a dry fly hackle and the commercial flies are tid with a softer wet fly hackle? Just guessing.             Jim

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Yes, I’ve been distributing the weight.  Maybe that’s the problem.  I’ll try concentrating it at the head. Your tail comment stands to reason although I notice that commercial versions of Wooly worms<  (i.e., much less tail) do not have the problem (but my wooly worms do, same as my wooly buggers ????) Thanks for your suggestions. —                                                       -dnc- – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Two Suggestions: 1.  Put your weight on the front half of the hook and dub filler on the rest beore you use the chenille. 2.  Either bead heads or lead eyes help to stabilize the fly. 3.  You may not have enough tailing maribou–works kind of like a kite in the wind for this type of fly. Hope this helps. ECJ

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I give up! No matter which orientation I use for the palmer hackle (barbs toward eye or away from eye) my wooly buggers end up twirling (don’t know if it’s when I cast or as I retrieve, but I assume it’s the former).  Eventually, the tippet gets so fouled up I have to change it.  What a pain. I cannot for the life of me figure out what’s different between mine and the commercially tied ones (which do not exhibit the problem). Any suggestions? —                                                      -dnc-

Take a couple turns of hackle around the head instead of stopping or starting your hackle all of a sudden. bsman

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: Two Suggestions: : 1.  Put your weight on the front half of the hook and dub filler on the rest : beore you use the chenille. <snip In addition to stabilizing the fly, this helps it dart around a bit. When I tie ‘em (white wooly bugger is my favorite warm weather fly), I wrap the front half of the shank in lead.  Of course, you will want to leave a little space at the front to whip in the head, etc. —                        http://members.tripod.com/~trunculo/index

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Northern Cascades/Diablo Lake. What to take?

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For that area, I would say that your 6 wt outfit will work just fine with the standard attractor patterns.  For some amazing action, go down the Skagit (west on WA 20- North Cascades Highway) past all the dams and shoot for the coho runs.  Steelhead State Park, off of WA 20, provides a good place to park and is right on the bank.  The Skagit has been recently designated a Wild and Scenic River, and it truly is.  With the steelhead, and the salmon, and the bald eagles looming on the trees over the banks, you ought to have a wonderful experience, provided that you’ve no leaks in your waders; the entire Skagit watershed from Ross and Diablo down to the sound is cold.   I just recently moved from Washington and have fished that area for years.  I hope you enjoy your trip.  Good fishing! BC

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For that area, I would say that your 6 wt outfit will work just fine with the standard attractor patterns.  For some amazing action, go down the Skagit (west on WA 20- North Cascades Highway) past all the dams and shoot for the coho runs.  Steelhead State Park, off of WA 20, provides a good place to park and is right on the bank.  The Skagit has

There are several places from which one migh fly fish- some off the highway.  Some off, eg., Sauk Store Road.  Call Skagit Anglers (360) 336-3232 in Mount Vernon or Priced Less Sporting Goods (360) 855-0895 in Sedro-Woolley for current regulation, access info.

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Greetings all:         I am taking a trip into the Pacific Northwest for business, and I will be taking a couple of days to hike in the region.  I will be at the Colonial Creek campground in North Cascades for two days, next to Diablo, and there is a lake supposedly full of trout.  Anyone have any suggestions for flies and rigging that works well there?  Also, I am currently using an 8.5 ft, 6wt rod and line combo.  Will this work well, or should I try to rent gear in Seattle that would be better suited?  Any suggestions about where to rent would also be helpful, since I may just go that route instead of risking my rod in an airplane.     Many thanks. Dan Johnson

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Info on 2wt and 3wt rods

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Petti) writes: ve heard that "The Tippet" is one of Orvis’ "Western Series" rods, and is considerably stiffer than the Ultra Fine.

The "Tippet" is a 7 1/2 foot 3 wt.fullflex rod.  The "Western Tippet" was a medium-fast action 3 wt. that is no longer made.                                                        Dan

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I’m thinking about buying a 2wt or 3wt fly rod for fishing small streams and catching stoked troat when I’m stuck in Phoenix during the winter. I have not cast any rods yet, but I was thinking about trying Orvis’ Ultra Fin and Tippet models.  I would also like to try some of the Sage rods. Does anyone have any opinions on these rods or recommendations about other rods?  Any information would be helpful.  Thanks!                                            John S. Hetrick

My brother has a Sage LL series 2 WT that is a lot of fun on brush choked streams.  It is very easy to be very accurate with it.  Even when you do screw up and slap the line down on the water, it does not scare the brookies.   You can trust my testimonial because I am an Orvis fan.  Saying nice things about Sage does not come easily. — Keep your stick on the ice.

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I like light weight rods.  I find them easier to fish and while you might give up something in distance or have to pick your places and moments in a headwind, using them forces me to pay attention to the closer water. You do have to I’ve got a orvis 8′3" western tippit that I love but dont believe is in production anymore.   In a fit of fuzzy thinking I built a sage LL #2 wt last winter.   The length escapes me but its probably 6′6" or so. Its ok but far too fast to make short casts easily. (I do like the length) I suspect it would fish better with a heaver line.

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short rod bellow 8Ft regadless of action, slow,fast etc… is not so efficent. if you like to cast million time to avoid the drag that’s fine. I like slow action rod because it will handle light tippet very well with big fish, casting don’t require critical timing for forward cast, I have tried scott, winston but I did found them too stiff. I was almost go for Glass fiber rod and I found this Rod makes here in NY called East Branch Rods. 1-800-337-EROD they are great rod and price is great (all under 200) they have finished rod or just blank or kit. They make fullline of trout and others but I think 8ft for 2wt is best. even in windy condition, they will cut righttrough. should give them try,

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m thinking about buying a 2wt or 3wt fly rod for fishing small streams and catching stoked troat when I’m stuck in Phoenix during the winter. I have not cast any rods yet, but I was thinking about trying Orvis’ Ultra Fin and Tippet models.  I would also like to try some of the Sage rods. Does anyone have any opinions on these rods or recommendations about other rods?  Any information would be helpful.  Thanks!                                                John S. Hetrick I made a sage III 9′ 3wt (390RPL) at the start of this season and I wouldn’t trade it for anything on calm days.  I’ve landed 16" RainBows without any problems but I did have some fun doing it….  The RPL models are very fast action. Frank I. Mason

On the other hand, if you want a slower action, an 8ft 3wt Winston is a wonderful rod.  I build custom rods and this is one of the most popular rods I build. Lyman  Hughes Ennis, MT Dallas, TX

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m thinking about buying a 2wt or 3wt fly rod for fishing small streams and catching stoked troat when I’m stuck in Phoenix during the winter.  I have not cast any rods yet, but I was thinking about trying Orvis’ Ultra Fin and Tippet models.  I would also like to try some of the Sage rods.   Does anyone have any opinions on these rods or recommendations about other rods?  Any information would be helpful.  Thanks!                                                John S. Hetrick Well John; I gotta opinion, doesn’t everyone?? In this case however, it may be actually of some use. Before you go out and plunk that money down on that new rod. Dig through yer closet and find that short 4-5 weight that you bought for small creeks. Take that thing and line it with one of them #2 lines and see how you like it. Esp. if its a DT2 or a TT2. I think you may find, as other have that a #2 line will load a 4/5wt rod at a moderate distance with practice and work pretty darned well. Then when the wind picks up at the end of the day, you can pull out that other reel and line it up with a 4/5 and still cast when the folks with the 2s and 1s have headed back to the truck. The fast action 4/5 won’t work?? Hmmm, if it was a medium it would, anyway, this may be the excuse you’ve been looking for to get a 4/5 weight cane rod. A gentile action 4 or 5 weight 7 and a half ft bamboo rod oughta throw a 2 weight line just fine. Think about it, you can shop around and find an older 7 1/2 ft. 4/5 weight cane rod for something like the price of a new 2 weight graphite or boron, and it will cover more water under more conditions. This may be the one case for having 2 spools. thank me later.

I must whole heartedly agree with Chip. I made my dad a 7ft 3wt split cane rod. In the course of testing it out, I saw practically no difference in casting a 2wt line compared to a 3wt. Both were DT. I also tried it with a 4wt WF and the rod handled that line very well also. So he has a rod that can cast from a 2wt DT to a 4wt WF. I’ll bet that everything except the fastest (stiffest) light line rods would do the same. I might tend to go for the 3/4 wt range though, trying to cast a 2wt line with a 4/5wt rod might be too much of a stretch, but it, of course, would depend on the action of the rod. Small streams and light line is where split cane rods really come into their own. It’s really hard for me to convey to people the action and feel of a split cane rod. There is something about bamboo that really makes the rod feel like a natural extension of your arm. However, when the wind comes up, or you are fishing big water requiring long casts all day long, break out your fast action graphite 6wt. Don’t try to make a rod do something it’s not designed to do. You did ask for opinions didn’t you? Darryl Hayashida

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I’m thinking about buying a 2wt or 3wt fly rod for fishing small streams and catching stoked troat when I’m stuck in Phoenix during the winter. I have not cast any rods yet, but I was thinking about trying Orvis’ Ultra Fin and Tippet models.  I would also like to try some of the Sage rods.   Does anyone have any opinions on these rods or recommendations about other rods?  Any information would be helpful.  Thanks!                                            John S. Hetrick

I made a sage III 9′ 3wt (390RPL) at the start of this season and I wouldn’t trade it for anything on calm days.  I’ve landed 16" RainBows without any problems but I did have some fun doing it….  The RPL models are very fast action. Frank I. Mason

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I’m thinking about buying a 2wt or 3wt fly rod for fishing small streams and catching stoked troat when I’m stuck in Phoenix during the winter.  I have not cast any rods yet, but I was thinking about trying Orvis’ Ultra Fin and Tippet models.  I would also like to try some of the Sage rods.   Does anyone have any opinions on these rods or recommendations about other rods?  Any information would be helpful.  Thanks!                                                 John S. Hetrick

Do check out the Sage LL line.  They have some nice 3 and 4 wt rods in the 5 1/2 – 6 1/2 foot range. Steve –  A sunny day,       a box of midges,          and a wandering stream…    Man, this MUST be heaven!    <    Steve Kulpa    <<

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Try the Orvis Flea, great little 6 1/2′ with a DT3. Glenn

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I’m thinking about buying a 2wt or 3wt fly rod for fishing small streams and catching stoked troat when I’m stuck in Phoenix during the winter.  I have not cast any rods yet, but I was thinking about trying Orvis’ Ultra Fin and Tippet models.  I would also like to try some of the Sage rods.   Does anyone have any opinions on these rods or recommendations about other rods?  Any information would be helpful.  Thanks!                                            John S. Hetrick

Well John; I gotta opinion, doesn’t everyone?? In this case however, it may be actually of some use. Before you go out and plunk that money down on that new rod. Dig through yer closet and find that short 4-5 weight that you bought for small creeks. Take that thing and line it with one of them #2 lines and see how you like it. Esp. if its a DT2 or a TT2. I think you may find, as other have that a #2 line will load a 4/5wt rod at a moderate distance with practice and work pretty darned well. Then when the wind picks up at the end of the day, you can pull out that other reel and line it up with a 4/5 and still cast when the folks with the 2s and 1s have headed back to the truck. The fast action 4/5 won’t work?? Hmmm, if it was a medium it would, anyway, this may be the excuse you’ve been looking for to get a 4/5 weight cane rod. A gentile action 4 or 5 weight 7 and a half ft bamboo rod oughta throw a 2 weight line just fine. Think about it, you can shop around and find an older 7 1/2 ft. 4/5 weight cane rod for something like the price of a new 2 weight graphite or boron, and it will cover more water under more conditions. This may be the one case for having 2 spools. thank me later.

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I’m thinking about buying a 2wt or 3wt fly rod for fishing small streams and catching stoked troat when I’m stuck in Phoenix during the winter.  I have not cast any rods yet, but I was thinking about trying Orvis’ Ultra Fin and Tippet models.  I would also like to try some of the Sage rods.   Does anyone have any opinions on these rods or recommendations about other rods?  Any information would be helpful.  Thanks!                                            John S. Hetrick

I built a rod from an Orvis Ultrafine blank last winter. It has become my ABSOLUTE FAVORITE rod for chasing trout in small streams. The only caveat I have is wind. If the areas you fish in are typically windy, don’t get the 2wt. You will kill yourself trying to cast in the wind. On days when the wind is calm, it throws everything from the tiniest dry flies (of course), to bead head nymphs with incredible accuracy. I use a Wulff Triangle Taper 2/3 line. A 12" trout on that rod is an absolute blast! It comes HIGHLY recommended. I’ve heard that "The Tippet" is one of Orvis’ "Western Series" rods, and is considerably stiffer than the Ultra Fine. If that’s the case, it doesn’t sound like a small stream rod. Can anyone confirm? I’ve also cast a SAGE 389 LL, and it is a very fine rod. The one I cast was made with a "strange" reel seat and grip, and it seemed a bit tip heavy, but I’ve never encountered that on any other SAGE LL. I’m sure it was a factor in the way the rod was put together. The LL is a little more "beefy" than the Orvis, and can throw a WF4F as good as a DT3F. It is a VERY nice rod as well. I think you would be happy with either one of these rods. Bob Petti Endwell, NY

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I’m thinking about buying a 2wt or 3wt fly rod for fishing small streams                                            John S. Hetrick

I use a Sage 379 LL and love it.  It handles dries beautifully, and can also throw a #12 nymph or scud.  

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I’m thinking about buying a 2wt or 3wt fly rod for fishing small streams and catching stoked troat when I’m stuck in Phoenix during the winter.  I have not cast any rods yet, but I was thinking about trying Orvis’ Ultra Fin and Tippet models.  I would also like to try some of the Sage rods.   Does anyone have any opinions on these rods or recommendations about other rods?  Any information would be helpful.  Thanks!                                                 John S. Hetrick

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Is there a censorship policy established for this group?  It was fun for a while to watch the K-9 act like a fool, but I’m afraid it’s escalated to obsurdity.  This boy vs girl mentality is remeniscent of a 4th grade   classroom with the corresponding IQ & emotional levels. If there is no censorship policy, then I would encourage other’s to use the "n/return" function on your computers. Tim

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: Is there a censorship policy established for this group?  It was fun for a : while to watch the K-9 act like a fool, but I’m afraid it’s escalated to : obsurdity.  This boy vs girl mentality is remeniscent of a 4th grade   : classroom with the corresponding IQ & emotional levels. : If there is no censorship policy, then I would encourage other’s to use : the "n/return" function on your computers. : Tim The only censorship should be from censor mavens such as yourself.   Go read alt.cindy.brady, eh… Tim Walker

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: The only censorship should be from censor mavens such as yourself.   : Go read alt.cindy.brady, eh… : Tim Walker Heeee’sss BACK! Welcome. Rick — T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    |  These University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    |  opinions Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. |  are mine.  

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The only censorship should be from censor mavens such as yourself.  

Having Tim Walker defend free speech for all r.o.f.f. postings is like having Frank Zappa defend free speech for the entire rock music industry. Yes, theoretically, I’m all for free speech; I just wish that all rock musicians and all r.o.f.f. posters had as much worthwhile to say as Frank and Tim.  Provocative posts which encourage fresh thinking about fly fishing are one thing; the boring, puerile, misogynist whinings that are so fashionable nowadays are quite another. Woods Hole, MA   USA

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[gone with swell foops of the del key] : and Tim.  Provocative posts which encourage fresh thinking about fly : fishing are one thing; the boring, puerile, misogynist whinings that are so : fashionable nowadays are quite another. And, virtually indistingushable sometimes…. Tim Walker

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Coach Phil Jackson, Flyfisher?

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: I seem to recall reading that he owned property in Montana where he liked to go : and fish.  I read this some time ago, so I don’t remember the details.  Anyone : else have additional info? Heh – looks like he’ll have lots of time to use it this year ;) — 3798 Woodland Drive     voice: (604) 368-9315 Trail, BC               data:  (604) 368-9341

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Did anyone catch Coach Phil Jackson’s outfit during the postgame press conference after Sunday’s win over the Magic?  He had his suit coat off, and I noticed his suspenders were decorated with fly patterns!  And you thought the biggest news in Chicago was Number 23’s return! So, what’s the deal, Bulls fans?  Is this guy just a smart dresser, or does he REALLY know what to do in the off season? Regards, Bill Uyeki

I know they say he spends his off season in Montana.

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Did anyone catch Coach Phil Jackson’s outfit during the postgame press conference after Sunday’s win over the Magic?  He had his suit coat off, and I noticed his suspenders were decorated with fly patterns!  And you thought the biggest news in Chicago was Number 23’s return! So, what’s the deal, Bulls fans?  Is this guy just a smart dresser, or does he REALLY know what to do in the off season?

I seem to recall reading that he owned property in Montana where he liked to go and fish.  I read this some time ago, so I don’t remember the details.  Anyone else have additional info?

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The Coach actually has a home just outside of Kalispell Montana, near Lakeside. (has two basketball courts too! nice place) and he also helped start a physical fitness gym there called ’second wind’ right up on the hill in Kalispell. So, I imagine he fishes when he gets home.

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Did anyone catch Coach Phil Jackson’s outfit during the postgame press conference after Sunday’s win over the Magic?  He had his suit coat off, and I noticed his suspenders were decorated with fly patterns!  And you thought the biggest news in Chicago was Number 23’s return! So, what’s the deal, Bulls fans?  Is this guy just a smart dresser, or does he REALLY know what to do in the off season? Regards, Bill Uyeki

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Colorado Flyshops

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I received a catalog in the mail from Angler’s Covey today…(since I’m VERY new to FFing, I’m not able to evaluate it…) The humorous part of it is, they had a note attached that said something to the effect of "Due to the overwhelming response for our 1995 catalog, we can only supply you with a prior year catalog…call for updated prices." It was a 1993 catalog…I wonder if the info on this group had anything to do with it?  :) Fish on!, JC Angler’s Covey, Inc. 917 W. Colorado Ave. Colorado, Springs, CO. 80905 719-471-2984 800-753-4746 mail order Full service shop with anything you might need, including; gear, tackle, advice, guides, classes, etc.  Nice, knowledgable folks.  Mention my name.  It shouldn’t run the prices up too much. :-) Bryan

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No One mentioned my favorites in Denver The Complete Angler – Arapahoe Road & I-25 in Englewood Co (Denver Sub) Pricey but knowledge is abundant. Only First Class Stuff. All Pro Fish N’ Sport 6221 S. Sante Fe Littleton Co. 80120 Bigger selection harder to find Mike Peters —- Fishing, Camping, MWC, Home office, Colorado, Micrographics, Computers, Electronics, TV/VCR/Audio repair.

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try the Front Range Angler in Boulder-great shop with great selection of flies/ equipment

: I am looking for the name and phone numbers of full service fly shops in : Colorado. Any help would be greatly appreciated. : Dale Owens

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I’ve had great luck with the St. Vrain Angler in Longmont (303) 776-5228.   There’s another posting I just saw that gave the number a CO angling info line and for the Estes Angler (303) 586-2110, owned by the same guy. Both truly full service shops, guides are good teachers.  

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You asked I am looking for the name and phone numbers of full service fly shops in

Colorado. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dale Owens ****** Two good shops Front Range Angler — Boulder [303] 494-1375 Angler’s All — Littleton [303] 794-1104 Joe Lhotka Colorado USA

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I am looking for the name and phone numbers of full service fly shops in Colorado. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dale Owens

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I am looking for the name and phone numbers of full service fly shops in Colorado. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Saint Peter’s Fly in Fort Collins (303-498-8968) are a professional and friendly, congenial bunch of folks.  Another good one is in Longmont on 4th street, but I forget the name. — -Wayne Trzyna

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: I am looking for the name and phone numbers of full service fly shops in : Colorado. Any help would be greatly appreciated. : Dale Owens Angler’s Covey, Inc. 917 W. Colorado Ave. Colorado, Springs, CO. 80905 719-471-2984 800-753-4746 mail order Full service shop with anything you might need, including; gear, tackle, advice, guides, classes, etc.  Nice, knowledgable folks.  Mention my name.  It shouldn’t run the prices up too much. :-) Bryan Remember:  Fishing is NOT a matter of life and death.               It is much more important than that!            Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.               Teach a man to fish and you get rid of him on weekends. Bryan Call (719)590-5772  |All opinions expressed here are mine & mine alone. Hewlett-Packard Co.       |  But then, I’ve never let that stop me before.     P.O. BOX 2197             |    Many men go fishing all their lives without Colorado Springs, Co 80901|    knowing that it is not fish they are after.

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try the Front Range Angler in Boulder-great shop with great selection of flies/ equipment : I am looking for the name and phone numbers of full service fly shops in : Colorado. Any help would be greatly appreciated. : Dale Owens

ANGLER’S COVEY ON WEST COLORADO STREET (what else?) IN COLORADO SPRINGS. GOOD PEOPLE.  KNOWLEDGEABLE.  FRIENDLY.  COOPERATIVE.  (Orvis Shop, so it can be pricey, but what the heck – you can’t have everything). This flatland furriner stops there everytime I make my annual pilgrimage to the South Platte. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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