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yours truly, boy lawyer and part-time papparazzi, will gladly send photos of the following clavers to their home addresses, if same are supplied via email:

Hell, Wayno, just post them to a web site.  (Ain’t no smiles on this one)

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Stan Gula sez: Hell, Wayno, just post them to a web site.  (Ain’t no smiles on this one)

Or, send ‘em to Stan and he’ll post them on a web site.  (smiley).

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Stan Gula sez: Hell, Wayno, just post them to a web site.  (Ain’t no smiles on this one) Or, send ‘em to Stan and he’ll post them on a web site.  (smiley).

Can do!

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        yours truly, boy lawyer and part-time papparazzi, will gladly send photos of the following clavers to their home addresses, if same are supplied via email: dave lacourse jeff miller waldo scott seidman willi tom littleton wolfgang frank reid peetah opie smilin joe stan gula joe axelrad handyman mike tony greg pavlov danno         yfitons         wayno

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   yours truly, boy lawyer and part-time papparazzi, will gladly send photos of the following clavers to their home addresses, if same are supplied via email: jeff miller

po box 3740 greenville nc 27836

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PO 3015 boone, nc 28607 thankee wayno…. btw, you had *all* the film developed?… how did yer portrait turn out? <g –waldo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –         yours truly, boy lawyer and part-time papparazzi, will gladly send photos of the following clavers to their home addresses, if same are supplied via email: dave lacourse jeff miller waldo scott seidman willi tom littleton wolfgang frank reid peetah opie smilin joe stan gula joe axelrad handyman mike tony greg pavlov danno         yfitons         wayno

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Does anyone have any suggestions about flyfishing around Taos, NM. in July, 2000. Thanks Al

also a bit of a drive, but worth it, would be the red river, rio costilla and the vallecitos. there’s also some high alpine lakes around the area. call los rios anglers in taos 505.758.2798.

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Does anyone have any suggestions about flyfishing around Taos, NM. in July, 2000. Thanks Al

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Does anyone have any suggestions about flyfishing around Taos, NM. in July, 2000. Thanks Al

The Rio Grande, the Rio Hondo, and the Rio Chiquito are the "usual". The Rio Pueblo de Taos has good sized trout too, but it’s littered with junk cars and the locals are prone to use the cars for plinkin’ practice. With a bit of a drive you can get to the Cimarron, it’s a stocked tailwater which doesn’t interest me a great deal, but it may be your best bet for catching a lot of fish in July. The fly shop in Taos is EXCELLENT. Don’t remember the name but it’s right on the main drag. They will tell you about some places to catch small wild fish that I won’t. Also, _Taylor Streit’s No Nonsense Guide to Fly Fishing in New Mexico_ by Taylor Streit, David Banks (Editor), Pete Chadwell (Illustrator), David Marketing Communications; ISBN: 0963725661, is highly recommended. Good luck. — Ken Fortenberry

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Well, not that I am an Indian giver (where did that saying come from?),

        well, from our own indian joe, of course:  one christmas eve, he was up on his rooftop, when along came a jolly old elf and a dozen far out reindeer.  they landed next to joe, startling him;  the white bearded old elf shouted, happily:  we are bringing gifts to you, sir, will you have them?  joe responded testily, "you can give me anything you please, but i’ll give you hell in a peach basket if you don’t get off my roof!         so ends the tale.  asadi, is that you….? wayno

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OK, counselor, how do I get the "master copy" of the shirt to give to my local t-shirt person.  With your permission, of course, I would like to use it for next year’s Easter ‘Clave.  I have a feeling that most claves in the future will have the same print if you and Anthony give us permission, of course. Dave LaCourse

        no problem with me, louie; but anthony is muttering something about a buck per shirt commish…         wayno, who aint worried about college tuition.

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<Lots of good stuff snipped It implies more…but in less words…"Fishing is Life, and Life is Short, so Don’t Waste it !"

Great post! George Adams

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Tim, you’re freakin’ me out, man… Your internal struggles aside, I agree with the sentiment. Well said, and rightly spoken… A damned good shirt it is. I have three – though one of those is for my neighbor Dave "Garden Hackler" LaCourse (you’ll get it when I see you again – probably on our river in September)… Enjoy yours, Tim. And if by some stroke of fortune I see you on the street in Glenwood – RUN LIKE HELL! /daytripper ;^) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have worn my "Caroline Clave ‘99" shirt proudly now several times.  I wore it to work yesterday.   The more I have it, the more I think about it, the more I want to tell Wayne’s son that he has captured *it* perfectly. I mean *perfectly* as in there is no room for improvement. For one, the huge R.O.F.F. on the front…it *should* say, be that man. When I walk down the street here in Glenwood a visiting ROFFian could see it and introduce himself in person.  I want that, I really want that to happen. That some made the Clave, some didn’t, some wouldn’t.  But would wear the shirt, or understand the culmination of and importance of this new technology as we shift milleniums.  Brought together on an electron plane we have become friends in a way new to mankind, new in all ways to our evolution.  "R.O.F.F." in huge letters.  We recognize this. We are proud. A very, very important moment that we’re all experiencing in *our* lives. Perfection. But even more…the phrase…"Fishing is Life, Don’t Waste it", *is* ‘perfect’. Coupled with the youthful idealism of a child drawn innocent rendition of a trout makes it (to the continued chagrin of Maclean’s Mentor) "even more perfect". I struggled with it at first, I admit. "Fishing is Life". At first I thought of obssessive, compulsive greed behavior transmitted in this message, as in "screw the kids, screw the checkbook, screw the environment, I’m going fishing every day of my compulsive screwed up life". But this is more like "Fishing is Too Important to me and I’m out of balance, Sick, about it in fact".  Not the elegent, simpler…."Fishing is Life". No… Fishing *is* life.  The act of fishing, a fisherman, alive in the world, fishing, it is life. It is life. It can be no other thing.  Regardless of any other connotation or metaphor for fishing, it most certainly *is* life. There can be no doubt. "Don’t waste it". Perfect. This is not a statement of "Catch and Release", "Catch and Kill" or "Catch and Count" it’s *whatever it is. *DON’T WASTE IT*.  Catch one, quit and eat it.  Catch several and release them carefully, but *savor* them, *savor* them.  Do NOT waste it.  What better possible statement of conservation, of "Wasting Life" can be said ? It implies more…but in less words…"Fishing is Life, and Life is Short, so Don’t Waste it !" "R.O.F.F. – Caroline Clave ‘99 – Fishing is Life (Youth) Don’t Waste It" I’d certainly like to meet the Harrison’s.  *THAT’S* for damned sure. Way to go Anthony. Way to go Wayno. Way to go ROFF. Your Pal,

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day tripper writes accurately and poetically: <<Tim, you’re freakin’ me out, man… Your internal struggles aside, I agree with the sentiment. Well said, and rightly spoken… Hear, hear.  Could not agree more, Dave.  In fact, I think the Eastern Clave next year will use the same "A. Harrison print", with a different location/date.  What say you all? <<A damned good shirt it is. I have three – though one of those is for my neighbor Dave "Garden Hackler" LaCourse (you’ll get it when I see you again – probably on our river in September)… Well, not that I am an Indian giver (where did that saying come from?), but I gave you my *only* clave t-shirt.  I thought I had another one, but I must have left it in NC.  So, I will see you on the river with your generous offer, sir.  I would have gone to my grave keeping silent about my loss, but since you have *three*, Dave LaCourse

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OK, counselor, how do I get the "master copy" of the shirt to give to my local t-shirt person.  With your permission, of course, I would like to use it for next year’s Easter ‘Clave.  I have a feeling that most claves in the future will have the same print if you and Anthony give us permission, of course. Dave LaCourse

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Well said that man. I am also the proud owner of the aforementioned piece of piscatorial apparel, thanks to the good offices of Mr Harrison. It is just about the most valuable item in my whole fishing collection, but not in terms of money, depicting as it does very many things, much of what you said Tim, and a lot more besides. Maybe one day I will actually get to meet some of you, and that would be very nice, but in the meantime I wear the shirt occasionally, and imagine fishing places like Hazel creek, or hiking up a mountain stream with a few good friends. Getting amiably inebriated on the porch of a log cabin somewhere and discussing C&R vs. C&K in the flesh, singing silly songs, eating weird food that no civilised person would entertain, (grits ???), regularly checking the meniscus on the communal whisky bottle with Wolfgang maybe, and arguing over how many drinks are left in it, and whose turn it is to open the next one,  fishing with miniscule flies for gigantic fish, gigantic flies for miniscule fish, and lots and lots of other things too. Amazing what a simple thing like a t-shirt can conjure up, sort of a cotton version of Aladdin’s lamp. ROFF really is a quite amazing place. Tight lines ! Mike Connor

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… Brought together on an electron plane we have become friends in a way new to mankind, new in all ways to our evolution.  "R.O.F.F." in huge letters.  We recognize this. We are proud. …

Gawd, I love it when you get on a roll. There just ain’t no disguisin’ the camaraderie of ROFF in the face of a post from the heart. Thanks, Timbo. — Ken Fortenberry

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On certain occasions the statements from Glenwood echo and reverberate… On any occasion I’m proud to say Tim is my friend….this being one. way to go bud. –Walt (who will be wearing his tee proudly this weekend) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have worn my "Caroline Clave ‘99" shirt proudly now several times.  I wore it to work yesterday.   The more I have it, the more I think about it, the more I want to tell Wayne’s son that he has captured *it* perfectly. I mean *perfectly* as in there is no room for improvement. For one, the huge R.O.F.F. on the front…it *should* say, be that man. When I walk down the street here in Glenwood a visiting ROFFian could see it and introduce himself in person.  I want that, I really want that to happen. That some made the Clave, some didn’t, some wouldn’t.  But would wear the shirt, or understand the culmination of and importance of this new technology as we shift milleniums.  Brought together on an electron plane we have become friends in a way new to mankind, new in all ways to our evolution.  "R.O.F.F." in huge letters.  We recognize this. We are proud. A very, very important moment that we’re all experiencing in *our* lives. Perfection. But even more…the phrase…"Fishing is Life, Don’t Waste it", *is* ‘perfect’. Coupled with the youthful idealism of a child drawn innocent rendition of a trout makes it (to the continued chagrin of Maclean’s Mentor) "even more perfect". I struggled with it at first, I admit. "Fishing is Life". At first I thought of obssessive, compulsive greed behavior transmitted in this message, as in "screw the kids, screw the checkbook, screw the environment, I’m going fishing every day of my compulsive screwed up life". But this is more like "Fishing is Too Important to me and I’m out of balance, Sick, about it in fact".  Not the elegent, simpler…."Fishing is Life". No… Fishing *is* life.  The act of fishing, a fisherman, alive in the world, fishing, it is life. It is life. It can be no other thing.  Regardless of any other connotation or metaphor for fishing, it most certainly *is* life. There can be no doubt. "Don’t waste it". Perfect. This is not a statement of "Catch and Release", "Catch and Kill" or "Catch and Count" it’s *whatever it is. *DON’T WASTE IT*.  Catch one, quit and eat it.  Catch several and release them carefully, but *savor* them, *savor* them.  Do NOT waste it.  What better possible statement of conservation, of "Wasting Life" can be said ? It implies more…but in less words…"Fishing is Life, and Life is Short, so Don’t Waste it !" "R.O.F.F. – Caroline Clave ‘99 – Fishing is Life (Youth) Don’t Waste It" I’d certainly like to meet the Harrison’s.  *THAT’S* for damned sure. Way to go Anthony. Way to go Wayno. Way to go ROFF. Your Pal, — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"

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Mike Connor: <<Maybe one day I will actually get to meet some of you, and that would be very nice, but in the meantime I wear the shirt occasionally, and imagine fishing places like Hazel creek, or hiking up a mountain stream with a few good friends. Getting amiably inebriated on the porch of a log cabin somewhere and discussing C&R vs. C&K in the flesh, singing silly songs, eating weird food that no civilised person would entertain, (grits ???), regularly checking the meniscus on the communal whisky bottle with Wolfgang maybe, and arguing over how many drinks are left in it, and whose turn it is to open the next one,  fishing with miniscule flies for gigantic fish, gigantic flies for miniscule fish, and lots and lots of other things too. Well, my friend from across the pond, all you have to do is show up at Logan Airport, Boston, Ma., in September of 2000.  If you come early, you may spend some time at my home and together we will go to Maine and some wonderful fishing with some wonderful people.  No need to rent a car — just get here.   Perhaps you can drag with you some other Your-o-pean Roffians, like Bill, Hans, and Herman.  Maybe even Christian if he can get away from his studies.  The same offer applies to them — no need to rent a car.  I will provide your transportation.   More info to follow after I venture up north in September.  Sure would be nice to have a European Cabin –  nothing but good ol boys errrrrrr, make that blokes, from across the pond. Dave LaCourse

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Gawd, I love it when you get on a roll. There just ain’t no disguisin’ the camaraderie of ROFF in the face of a post from the heart. Thanks, Timbo. — Ken Fortenberry

speakin’ of camaraderie…how come you ain’t on the road yet?. my kickin foot is gettin’ itchy. waldo — Ezflyfish.com                 Blue Ridge Book Gallery Quality Gear & Service        Used & Out-of-Print Books http://www.ezflyfish.com      http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112  Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001

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speakin’ of camaraderie…how come you ain’t on the road yet?. my kickin foot is gettin’ itchy.

I’ll hit the road at crack of dawn tomorrow, my friend. Hope to be at Jeff’s cabin around 7 Friday evening. FYI, my email has been down since 4 a.m. this morning. A construction crew cut a cable and my office has no electricity. Since I’ve eschewed the campus email system with its built in redundancy in favor of the SGI on my desk that I’ve customized in my own quirky fashion, I find myself hoist on my own petard and incommunicado for the time being. That’s what I get for being a smartass. I’ll try to answer emails before I leave in the morning. — Ken Fortenberry

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I’ll have a JAX bud waitin fer ya! Waldo the thoughtful – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – speakin’ of camaraderie…how come you ain’t on the road yet?. my kickin foot is gettin’ itchy. I’ll hit the road at crack of dawn tomorrow, my friend. Hope to be at Jeff’s cabin around 7 Friday evening. FYI, my email has been down since 4 a.m. this morning. A construction crew cut a cable and my office has no electricity. Since I’ve eschewed the campus email system with its built in redundancy in favor of the SGI on my desk that I’ve customized in my own quirky fashion, I find myself hoist on my own petard and incommunicado for the time being. That’s what I get for being a smartass. I’ll try to answer emails before I leave in the morning. — Ken Fortenberry

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… and maybe a different color tee as well.

No ! The natural cotton color is PERFECT. Cool, doesn’t draw bugs, blends in for stealth, what more could you ask for in a T-shirt color ? — Ken Fortenberry

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Truly an excellent post Tbone. Jeff Boks Fly  Fishing~~~~~Just Do It

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Ken, Don’t forget to make a point of fishing Elk River.  Walt will make up some wild story to keep you off it but don’t be dissuaded!  When you have brought a double digit number of 15 inch + Browns to hand, take some pictures and tales into Fay’s Hardware in Linville to tell Paul.  He keeps a special surprise for the fly fisherman who brings in the best story of fishing the Elk each week! Wayne To fish is human…to release divine.

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day tripper writes accurately and poetically: <<Tim, you’re freakin’ me out, man… Your internal struggles aside, I agree with the sentiment. Well said, and rightly spoken… Hear, hear.  Could not agree more, Dave.  In fact, I think the Eastern Clave next year will use the same "A. Harrison print", with a different location/date.  What say you all?

Excellent! I think making a series of shirts is a killer idea, Dave. Keep the R.O.F.F., keep the artwork, keep the slogan, just change the location and year, and maybe a different color tee as well. Good stuff! <<A damned good shirt it is. I have three – though one of those is for my neighbor Dave "Garden Hackler" LaCourse (you’ll get it when I see you again – probably on our river in September)… Well, not that I am an Indian giver (where did that saying come from?), but I gave you my *only* clave t-shirt.  I thought I had another one, but I must have left it in NC.  So, I will see you on the river with your generous offer, sir.  I would have gone to my grave keeping silent about my loss, but since you have *three*,

As I promised you before, it’s a done deal. I was hoping to present it to you on a striper foray, but while you and I were having a ball on The River, most of the stripers apparently swam on up to Maine. Seems like only the little dudes stuck around down here – the fishing has been very slow on the ‘Mack… /daytripper

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… and maybe a different color tee as well. No ! The natural cotton color is PERFECT. Cool, doesn’t draw bugs, blends in for stealth, what more could you ask for in a T-shirt color ?

Is *that* what this color is? (we don’t grow no cotton in New England). The color is fine, I was just thinking of how to provide some variety in a series of roffian ‘clave shirts. But "blends in for stealth"? Where do you fish where the background is "natural cotton"? Even in the toaster oven that has been New England this year, our backgrounds are greens and browns. Wear a Carolina ‘Clave shirt on the stream here and the fish would have to put on their shades ;^) /daytripper

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On certain occasions the statements from Glenwood echo and reverberate… On any occasion I’m proud to say Tim is my friend….this being one. way to go bud. –Walt (who will be wearing his tee proudly this weekend)

Couldn’t of said it better if Mike had said it for me. Cheers Peter

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Is there a reason for the trailing dot in "R.O.F.F."?

Yes.   Period. Your pal, — TimW

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A damned good shirt it is. I have three – though one of those is for my neighbor Dave "Garden Hackler" LaCourse (you’ll get it when I see you again – probably on our river in September)… Enjoy yours, Tim. And if by some stroke of fortune I see you on the street in Glenwood – RUN LIKE HELL!

God I love this place!  I can’t tell you how much enjoyment I get out of here every day!  It is truely one of the bright spots when I am too busy to be fishing. Warren

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you go, Timbo.  very well said. Mark Faulkner – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – … Brought together on an electron plane we have become friends in a way new to mankind, new in all ways to our evolution.  "R.O.F.F." in huge letters.  We recognize this. We are proud. … Gawd, I love it when you get on a roll. There just ain’t no disguisin’ the camaraderie of ROFF in the face of a post from the heart. Thanks, Timbo. — Ken Fortenberry

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I have worn my "Caroline Clave ‘99" shirt proudly now several times.  I wore it to work yesterday.   The more I have it, the more I think about it, the more I want to tell Wayne’s son that he has captured *it* perfectly.    thanks a lot for your comment.  it was very nice.  and 1 more thing.  

just to tell u what i think about my slogan, what i mean about ‘DON’T WASTE IT’ is that, as u said, life is short, but i think if no one has gone fishing at least 730 days in their whole life, their life is not complete.                               From the little man.         and from the big, old, man:  kinder words have never been spoken on behalf of me and mine.  it takes a long time to lose a friend from north carolina.  you never will. wayno

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evolution.  "R.O.F.F." in huge letters.  We recognize this. We are proud.

Is there a reason for the trailing dot in "R.O.F.F."? And, how about a non-clave generic ROFF T-shirt? I’ll have two of those, please. — Christian Figenschou – <URL: http://figen.com

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I have worn my "Caroline Clave ‘99" shirt proudly now several times.  I wore it to work yesterday.   The more I have it, the more I think about it, the more I want to tell Wayne’s son that he has captured *it* perfectly. I mean *perfectly* as in there is no room for improvement. For one, the huge R.O.F.F. on the front…it *should* say, be that man. When I walk down the street here in Glenwood a visiting ROFFian could see it and introduce himself in person.  I want that, I really want that to happen. That some made the Clave, some didn’t, some wouldn’t.  But would wear the shirt, or understand the culmination of and importance of this new technology as we shift milleniums.  Brought together on an electron plane we have become friends in a way new to mankind, new in all ways to our evolution.  "R.O.F.F." in huge letters.  We recognize this. We are proud. A very, very important moment that we’re all experiencing in *our* lives. Perfection. But even more…the phrase…"Fishing is Life, Don’t Waste it", *is* ‘perfect’. Coupled with the youthful idealism of a child drawn innocent rendition of a trout makes it (to the continued chagrin of Maclean’s Mentor) "even more perfect". I struggled with it at first, I admit. "Fishing is Life". At first I thought of obssessive, compulsive greed behavior transmitted in this message, as in "screw the kids, screw the checkbook, screw the environment, I’m going fishing every day of my compulsive screwed up life". But this is more like "Fishing is Too Important to me and I’m out of balance, Sick, about it in fact".  Not the elegent, simpler…."Fishing is Life". No… Fishing *is* life.  The act of fishing, a fisherman, alive in the world, fishing, it is life. It is life. It can be no other thing.  Regardless of any other connotation or metaphor for fishing, it most certainly *is* life. There can be no doubt. "Don’t waste it". Perfect. This is not a statement of "Catch and Release", "Catch and Kill" or "Catch and Count" it’s *whatever it is. *DON’T WASTE IT*.  Catch one, quit and eat it.  Catch several and release them carefully, but *savor* them, *savor* them.  Do NOT waste it.  What better possible statement of conservation, of "Wasting Life" can be said ? It implies more…but in less words…"Fishing is Life, and Life is Short, so Don’t Waste it !" "R.O.F.F. – Caroline Clave ‘99 – Fishing is Life (Youth) Don’t Waste It" I’d certainly like to meet the Harrison’s.  *THAT’S* for damned sure. Way to go Anthony. Way to go Wayno. Way to go ROFF. Your Pal, — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"

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Your cleaning method appears sound, but I would definitely do it by hand and stay away from any washing machine, no matter how "gentle" the cycle may be. Regards from Montreal John Brkich

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I would second this recommendation….after trying some others.  The only thing that I would add is that you can purchase a product specifically designed to clean neoprene waders (I forget which company makes it…Simms, I believe)…but I’ve just used liquid soap.  I have a den with a bathroom/shower that is just off of the garage.  When I come back from fishing, if I notice that my waders are getting a bit "foul", I put them in the shower for cleaning.  By putting them on inside out, it’s easy to wash them and ensure that you’ve not skipped anything.  In fact, when I do such a washing, I usually do both the inside and outside…then hang them in the den and over a large plastic bucket to catch water.  It works well. Barry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Put them on inside out, and wash them in the shower. Neoprene is a closed cell foam, so the odor should just be on the surface. My neoprene waders are getting so funky even I don’t want to put them on anymore.  Is there a way to wash them -the insides especially- and if so, what works the best? I was thinking of using Woolite and putting them on gentle cycle, but…..I’lll ask the experts first. pete

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On the way home from a trip, I stop by a neighborhood do-it-yourself car wash. For $2 and 10 minutes I get clean waders (inside and out), clean felt on my wading boots, and no sand residue on the inside of the boots (which can wear the neoprene bootie). It’s also a good time to clean up the beer cooler! Jerry Donovan, Littleton, Colo. My neoprene waders are getting so funky even I don’t want to put them on anymore.  Is there a way to wash them -the insides especially- and if so, what works the best? I was thinking of using Woolite and putting them on gentle cycle, but…..I’lll ask the experts first. pete

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There is a lure called a Cicada made by Reef Runner Lure Co. It works quite well ! Look fer it in  Bass Pro Shops or Cabela’s catalogs.

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If you are into fly fishing, try a big muddler minnow & add floatant. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There is a lure called a Cicada made by Reef Runner Lure Co. It works quite well ! Look fer it in  Bass Pro Shops or Cabela’s catalogs.

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t… i use a white zonker fished on an intermediate sink tip in the summer for cats on the fox river in wisconsin. i get by on a  8 wt. st. croix, and have a fine time doing so… i think it’s mainly a problem of identifying the forage fish (in my case, a white perch) and getting down to the cats. and when they strike…well, i’ll leave that for your first fish… hex

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http://www.smallstreams.com/Cat.html The above article is one that resides on my little site. adam Small Stream Fly Fishing http://www.smallstreams.com

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This past spring and summer I caught quite a few channel cats on flies. Any kind of streamer seems to work fine. Drifting the fly near blowdowns and into deeper holes and just letting it hang in the current, no retrieve, seemed to work best. Evan

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Any body out there fly fishing for catfish? Duane:  I can tell you that when the whitefly is on the Susquehanna River, I have had a blast taking rising catfish on a dry.  This would be late July-August in most years.  They fight like an old tire – just drag them in.

….don’t know what kind of catfish that would be (fights like an old tire). In Montana, we have channel catfish in the praire rivers, and they fight like buffalo soldiers.     Note that bacon rind will stay on a hook all day. So will fresh pork skin, which, when fished with a shooting head and a pea-sized split shot, works well for channel catfish. —  * Center For Computational Biology            * Montana State University                            */

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I visit a 50 acre lake about two hours north of Houston, TX a couple times each year and usually take a flyrod with me.  When I cannot get the Bass, Bluegill or Crappie to cooperate (rare) I’ll resort to Catfish.  For me, sizable Blues and Channel Cats will readily take a Woolly Bugger #2-4 Black on 0-1X leader about 7 ft or so.  They don’t seem to be leader shy. — KennyM "I fish because I love to…"

t… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Any body out there fly fishing for catfish? With 4-10 pounders farly normal in the rivers (at least around here) I was wondering if anyone had given this a try. I didn’t find out about this aspect of the sport until after the fishing slowed down for the winter.  Haven’t had much luck with the catfish so far, but I also haven’t had much luck in the last 4 weeks catching anything except a cold. I was wondering what gear was preferred by the more experienced folks to take these wee beasties and what patterns folks used other than Hellgramites and Joe’s Hopper.  With luch like this I’ll have plenty of time to tie the patterns before the water starts getting warm.  (Of course, I could always use the time to catch those funny looking rainbow colored fish that are stocked down here in the winter time.) Thanks in advance for any info.

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Any body out there fly fishing for catfish? With 4-10 pounders farly normal in the rivers (at least around here) I was wondering if anyone had given this a try. I didn’t find out about this aspect of the sport until after the fishing slowed down for the winter.  Haven’t had much luck with the catfish so far, but I also haven’t had much luck in the last 4 weeks catching anything except a cold. I was wondering what gear was preferred by the more experienced folks to take these wee beasties and what patterns folks used other than Hellgramites and Joe’s Hopper.  With luch like this I’ll have plenty of time to tie the patterns before the water starts getting warm.  (Of course, I could always use the time to catch those funny looking rainbow colored fish that are stocked down here in the winter time.) Thanks in advance for any info.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any body out there fly fishing for catfish? With 4-10 pounders farly normal in the rivers (at least around here) I was wondering if anyone had given this a try. I didn’t find out about this aspect of the sport until after the fishing slowed down for the winter.  Haven’t had much luck with the catfish so far, but I also haven’t had much luck in the last 4 weeks catching anything except a cold. I was wondering what gear was preferred by the more experienced folks to take these wee beasties and what patterns folks used other than Hellgramites and Joe’s Hopper.  With luch like this I’ll have plenty of time to tie the patterns before the water starts getting warm.  (Of course, I could always use the time to catch those funny looking rainbow colored fish that are stocked down here in the winter time.) Thanks in advance for any info.

When I lived in Kansas I used to catch a few channel cat on wooly buggers, zonkers and decievers, mostly when I was fishing for white bass or crappie. — Charlie…

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any body out there fly fishing for catfish? With 4-10 pounders farly normal in the rivers (at least around here) I was wondering if anyone had given this a try. I didn’t find out about this aspect of the sport until after the fishing slowed down for the winter.  Haven’t had much luck with the catfish so far, but I also haven’t had much luck in the last 4 weeks catching anything except a cold. I was wondering what gear was preferred by the more experienced folks to take these wee beasties and what patterns folks used other than Hellgramites and Joe’s Hopper.  With luch like this I’ll have plenty of time to tie the patterns before the water starts getting warm.  (Of course, I could always use the time to catch those funny looking rainbow colored fish that are stocked down here in the winter time.) Thanks in advance for any info.

Hi Duaine, I’ve caught a few catfish while "crawling" a woolly bugger through still water. I’ve never been sure if catching them was a mistake or not but they were hooked in the mouth. I’ve never had any real consistant success though. On the other hand I’ve had a lot of fun fly fishing for carp. They tend to hold in slow or non-moving water and take buggers fairly well. Because they are often in shallow water they can be real spooky. Good luck & … — Tight Lines — Al Beatty Whiting Farms (Hoffman Hackle)

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Any body out there fly fishing for catfish? With 4-10 pounders farly normal in the rivers (at least around here) I was wondering if anyone had given this a try.

Duane:  I can tell you that when the whitefly is on the Susquehanna River, I have had a blast taking rising catfish on a dry.  This would be late July-August in most years.  They fight like an old tire – just drag them in. It gets to be an art to distinquish the catfish rises from the smallmouth rises. Mark Faulkner

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Ditto the whitefly post–channel cats belly up to the smorgasbord in late summer on the Potomac, too.  I’ve caught a number of catfish on dark strip-leeches or butch minnows while fishing for smallies.  They will take minnow imitations in our eastern rivers, and quickly too.  An element of luck or accident is involved, though. Dave Motes

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Duane:  I can tell you that when the whitefly is on the Susquehanna River, I have had a blast taking rising catfish on a dry.  This would be late July-August in most years.  They fight like an old tire – just drag them in. It gets to be an art to distinquish the catfish rises from the smallmouth rises. Mark Faulkner

  What kind of catfish were these? I’ve caught a few Channel Cats when fishing for bass & they fought like a freight train. Willi

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Duaine –         There are a couple of small streams and lakes that I know of in Arkansas where the catfish will readily take a fly.  This seems to be somewhat aberrant behavior for a catfish, but in these particular areas they are the primary predator species (for some reason the smallmouth bass haven’t done well there – overfishing?), and they don’t seem to show the normal reluctance that cats show.  The water in these areas is normally gin-clear, and I usually catch channel catfish on flies.  The other species of cats, while present, only occasionally will take a fly.         The cats will only rarely take a dry fly (usually a hopper pattern), but will aggressively charge an olive-green wooly bugger or zonker.  There is a lot of vegetation in these waters, and there is a large number of small (2") fry from bluegill, which the streamers do a pretty good job of imitating.   For some reason, the period during and immediately after a thunderstorm is vastly the most productive.  I’ve taken channel catfish up to 10 lbs. in these waters, sometimes catching 10 or 15 in a single afternoon of fishing.         The largest cat I ever took on a fly was actually on the Potomac river right at the Beltway around Washington D.C.   That particular fish hit a large white streamer I was casting for smallmouth bass, and then proceeded to drag me up and down the river (on foot, no less) for about an hour before I could get close enough to remove the hook.  I didn’t attempt to weigh him, but he was about the length of my leg to the hip (say 36"), and bigger in girth.  My best guesstimate for his weight would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 lbs. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Any body out there fly fishing for catfish? With 4-10 pounders farly normal in the rivers (at least around here) I was wondering if anyone had given this a try. I didn’t find out about this aspect of the sport until after the fishing slowed down for the winter.  Haven’t had much luck with the catfish so far, but I also haven’t had much luck in the last 4 weeks catching anything except a cold. I was wondering what gear was preferred by the more experienced folks to take these wee beasties and what patterns folks used other than Hellgramites and Joe’s Hopper.  With luch like this I’ll have plenty of time to tie the patterns before the water starts getting warm.  (Of course, I could always use the time to catch those funny looking rainbow colored fish that are stocked down here in the winter time.) Thanks in advance for any info.

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So you’re enjoying resting a good pool and have been doing so for half an hour.  Suddenly another angler pops up at the end of the run and begins to fish in a proximity much closer than you feel is, shall I say, polite.  What do you do?

First let out an insane, demented yell/laugh and let some drool fall out of your mouth. Then, as you stare at the bastard, drop your waders and begin masturbating, grunting like a retarded pig with every stroke. You will have the pool (indeed, perhaps even the river) to yourself for some time following. This and other true life angling tips will be covered in my upcoming book, "Balls Deep In America’s Rivers". I’m hoping Lyons And Burford will publish; if not, I’ve got a standing offer (sic) from Larry Flyntt. Spinolio

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So you’re enjoying resting a good pool and have been doing so for half an hour.  Suddenly another angler pops up at the end of the run and begins to fish in a proximity much closer than you feel is, shall I say, polite.  What do you do? I would try, "Excuse me, but I’ve been sitting here awhile resting this pool and plan on fishing it in a minutes. Would you mind moving on? If that doesn’t work, I find a blast of bear repellant in the eyes to always be effective. Regards, Wes

And then, if he says something that suggests an anatomical impossibility, I pull out a pistol and take some target practice with his fly as a target.  Spooks the pool, but is worth it for the fun.

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So you’re enjoying resting a good pool and have been doing so for half an hour.  Suddenly another angler pops up at the end of the run and begins to fish in a proximity much closer than you feel is, shall I say, polite.  What do you do?

  Move to another pool. To make sure the moron doesn’t follow you there, carry the following materials in your vehicle:  1) A really cheap little bicycle tire pump.  2) A fifty cent valve core removing tool.  3) A pre-printed 3"x5" card that says:  Fellow angler: Thank you for spoiling my day. Since you passed  endless miles of open water to find me, I have taken certain  precautions to ensure you don’t follow me around all day. Use this  small tool to reinstall the valve cores in your tires, then start pumping. The small pump I’ve thoughtfully provided will  take approximately one and a half hours per tire. Have a nice day.  Unless you are sure the rube didn’t see where you parked, consider  driving the wife’s car on future fishing trips in the same area.

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So you’re enjoying resting a good pool and have been doing so for half an hour.  Suddenly another angler pops up at the end of the run and begins to fish in a proximity much closer than you feel is, shall I say, polite.  What do you do?

I carry a gun just for this reason. Oh, yeah, for peoples in canoes and kayaks, and those float tubing crowds. Ok, I usually move away, often grunting. Now, let’s consider the opposite situation: you walk to a good pool and there is another angler in there. What do you do ? Usually, if I can get into the water and fish farther than 200 ft away from the other angler, I just go ahead and fish, otherwise I ask permission to enter the pool. -Vittorio

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So you’re enjoying resting a good pool and have been doing so for half an hour.  Suddenly another angler pops up at the end of the run and begins to fish in a proximity much closer than you feel is, shall I say, polite.  What do you do?

I have had this happen to me on several occasions.  This is usually the mark of an angler whose day of fishing has been *frustrating*, and feels the need to frusrtate others. You can do one of two things: 1) Politely tell him that you have been resting the pool for several    minutes and to respect your distance,                 OR 2) Take a size 2/0 salt-fly (that you kept in your box for such an    occasion) and skillfully cast the fly at his waders, set the hook, and    give em’ a bath! (This was taught to me by a seasoned older fisherman    while fishing Penn’s Creek several years ago)  I haven’t  had the    courage to do this, but maybe it’ll work for you! John W. Kramer @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@   "See Dick fly-fish.    See Dick catch fish.    See Dick kill fish."           DON’T BE A DICK!  PRACTICE AND TEACH CATCH AND RELEASE @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@

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Or…you can take a rock the size of a grapefruit and "stone the pool".

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So you’re enjoying resting a good pool and have been doing so for half an hour.  Suddenly another angler pops up at the end of the run and begins to fish in a proximity much closer than you feel is, shall I say, polite.  What do you do?

You fish through after him.   Right behind him.   And you nail a 7 pounder. — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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So you’re enjoying resting a good pool and have been doing so for half an hour.  Suddenly another angler pops up at the end of the run and begins to fish in a proximity much closer than you feel is, shall I say, polite.  What do you do?

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So you’re enjoying resting a good pool and have been doing so for half an hour.  Suddenly another angler pops up at the end of the run and begins to fish in a proximity much closer than you feel is, shall I say, polite.  What do you do?

I would try, "Excuse me, but I’ve been sitting here awhile resting this pool and plan on fishing it in a minutes. Would you mind moving on? If that doesn’t work, I find a blast of bear repellant in the eyes to always be effective. Regards, Wes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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So you’re enjoying resting a good pool and have been doing so for half an hour.  Suddenly another angler pops up at the end of the run and begins to fish in a proximity much closer than you feel is, shall I say, polite.  What do you do?

Move on.  It’s not mine to rest.  I was only borrowing it.  S/he saw I wasn’t using it and (correctly?) assumed s/he could.  I have no recourse. — Tight Threads,         Charley Renn         Corvallis, OR

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So you’re enjoying resting a good pool and have been doing so for half an hour.  Suddenly another angler pops up at the end of the run and begins to fish in a proximity much closer than you feel is, shall I say, polite.  What do you do?

         If I stay, I get PO’d. If I go upstream,  the problem can follow me.The sooner I can’t see him, the sooner I calm down. I usually leave the pool and go back in the direction he came from. At least, that way I’m closer to the truck if the situation gets really hopeless. Its a common scenario and happens to me once or twice a season. The problem is twofold: I don’t own the water and the other guy doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together. I can explain it to him or the nearest rock with the same probability of salvaging my day, or I can leave and cut my losses. I’ll walk.

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Jon, Wes and All, Interesting point to debate. What are the implied rights of "I was here first?" Is the water public or private? What distance is too close? Would it be friendly to share the pool? If I was in a good mode and the pool fishing was poor I’d invite the person to fish the pool. But the normal me would, stand up, grunt like a deranged moose, and politely tell the person "I WAS HERE FIRST!" On the other hand if the intruder politely asked my intent to fish or not and if I would mind their fishing the pool, I would probably let them and I would go fish my "secret spot!" Good fishing, — Dennis C. Aron Independent Representative #13921 Champion Fishing Co., Ltd e-mail for business opportunity – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So you’re enjoying resting a good pool and have been doing so for half an hour.  Suddenly another angler pops up at the end of the run and begins to fish in a proximity much closer than you feel is, shall I say, polite.  What do you do? I would try, "Excuse me, but I’ve been sitting here awhile resting this pool and plan on fishing it in a minutes. Would you mind moving on? If that doesn’t work, I find a blast of bear repellant in the eyes to always be effective. Regards, Wes

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I’m headed to Palm Springs for a week in early April and was wondering if there are any trout streams remotely close by or is that area all simply desert and dried up lakes?  Any info anyone has would be appreciated.  1st time going to Palm Springs.  Is all the fly fishing for trout in Middle and Northern California? TO WET LINES AND FULL TUMMYS, Chris Willman La Crosse, Wisconsin

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Try the area around Lake Isabella in Kern County, especially the north fork of the Kern River.  The rainbows are small, but a lot of fun anyway.

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A lot is going to depend on the weather and snowpack. The Santa Ana River in and out of the canyon. Deep Creek flowing northwest out of the Running Springs area is some good fishing also. Holcomb Creek is a trib. to Deep Creek and also had some good trout in the lower end, but that is a good hike. Whitewater Creek flows off of the south side of Mt. Gorgonio and also harbors trout and a hydroelectric powerplant(!)   It’s been a while since I’ve fished down there, so you might want to check at one of the local shops like Marriot’s in Fullerton for further information. have fun! Jim, Nevada Jim’s Outdoor Sports, Elko, NV

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Has anyone fished the West Fork of the San Gabriel (Southern Ca.)  lately? I see they are planting trout weekly.  If you have (fished) what are the taking , where is the best area etc.                   Thanks, Becky

Actually, Becky, they only plant the lower section of the West Fork. The catch & release, artificial lure w/ single barbless hook only section begins at the second bridge upstream from the parking area and it is wild trout only. This is the area you want to visit. In fact, bring a bike and you can easily cover the entire 5 miles or so of managed water. I haven’t been up this year yet but I would guess that conditions would be great. Plenty of water! In the past I’ve had success fishing just about any dry fly. I knew a Becky Marsh who worked for Nordstrom??? Tim

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Becky, Follow the advice of the last message, take lots of Beadheaed nymphs In #14-16 in olive or brown, fish soft hackle wet flies (March Brown, Partridge & Orange or Starling and Herl, carry some #16-18 Elk Caddis, a few Royal Wulfs, California Mosquito, the good old Gold Ribbed Hare’s Ear Nymph #14-16 and a few Pheasant Tail Nymphs in the same size.  Use 9ft leader tipped with 6x and cast everywhere. This is a good stream to learn on. Get a bike, pack a lunch and enjoy it any month  of the year.  I’ve fished the West Fork for almost 20 years.  Sometimes it’s hot and sometimes it’s not…never give up on it, though.  It’s a great little stream if given half the chance!

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Has anyone fished the West Fork of the San Gabriel (Southern Ca.)  lately?  I see they are planting trout weekly.  If you have (fished) what are the taking , where is the best area etc.                   Thanks, Becky

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The recent discussion of fishing vests reminds me that I got the advice to buy a fishing vest one size larger than normal.  This way the vest won’t fit too tightly once you have the pockets loaded. Just 2 cents that I was given and am passing along. Dave

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Wearing a FF vest one size larger also allows you to add extra layers of clothing underneath in cold weather.

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: : The recent discussion of fishing vests reminds me that I got the : advice to buy a fishing vest one size larger than normal.  This way : the vest won’t fit too tightly once you have the pockets loaded. Or, in my case, put on a bit of poundage over the years.  Time to get on that damn Nordic Trac. — Tom

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: : The recent discussion of fishing vests reminds me that I got the : advice to buy a fishing vest one size larger than normal.  This way : the vest won’t fit too tightly once you have the pockets loaded. Or, in my case, put on a bit of poundage over the years.  Time to get on that damn Nordic Trac.

But then again, a Wood River bag fits over anything _and_ provides a work surface for openning fly boxes, tying leaders or dressing a fly.   Bags also offer the advantage of helping avoid looking like everyone else. Pete

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