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And Sandy, while occasionally getting snippy with one or another poster on roff, doesn’t hold a grudge forever and ever and go on and on. Something to be learned there, I am sure.
Well, he can dish it out too, Rick. The reason I really want to track him down in Montana is that I was his principal victim in one of the all-time great ROFF scams. Do you remember (say, 1996 or so, on April Fools day) when Sandy posted an extended "quote" from the Missoula newspaper, reporting that the Big Hole had disappeared into the Rhone Puolanec (spelling ?) mine? Perhaps it was because I had fished in that vicinity, but I fell for it completely. By the end of the day, half the population of Pennsylvania had heard the "news". After I fish with him and buy him a few brews, I intend to wring his scrawny neck 
Mark Faulkner, holding a grudge forever and ever.
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Chained flies are far less prone to tangling than dropper flies, plus they are easier to cast. Try fishing a large grasshopper as a strike indicator (bobber) that catches fish, followed by one, two or three nymphs. Why use a pink foam indicator when you can use a grasshopper?
I use this method, but three _dries_ daisy chained has me wondering Drag must be a problem or is the water type such that drag is not an issue. Seems to me three dries on loops would be a nightmare to cast. One large and two small might be workable . Got to try it when I am full of patience. Harry
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take a quick look at http://www.montana-riverboats.com/bhsf.html
An X- rated picture, that’s for sure. Mark faulkner
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God bless the Parachute Adams! Usually my first (and only) choice. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was down at Silver Creek, south of Ketchum Idaho last week. For those who don’t know, it’s a semi-famous spring creek, loaded with birds, big fish and well-equipped, competative-agressive flyfishermen. It is a beautiful stream. Moreover I was lucky to get there just in time for its legendary Brown Drake hatch…which only lasts for 5-10 days. (now over). The big drakes hatch at night, starting just at dark, limited to those parts of the stream with enough silt to support their silt-loving nymphs. PUNCHLINE: As dark approached, I shared the stream with wall-to-wall fishermen. It reminded my of openning day in New Jersey. I almost left. But once the hatch started, I forgot all complaints. Billions of mayflies as big as your thumb brought thousands of fish to the surface. The birds went nuts. I fished three dry flies simultaneously, and outfished everyone in sight. I caught a fish every third cast for nearly two hours. I had a huge drake on, followed by a stimulator, followed by a #12 parachute adams. The drake made it easy to find my fly in the diminishing light. But nearly all the fish I caught took the #12 adams…despite the presense of billions of #4 mayflies. A few took the stimulator. Only one fish all night took the big drake pattern. Everyone else around me fished big drake patterns, and despite the profusion of bugs….most of them worked hard for 2-3 fish. I must have caught close to 30. That’s fishin…
– I am who I am. I am who I’ve learned to be. I am Nothing.
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God bless the Parachute Adams! Usually my first (and only) choice.
I have to agree with that…the Adams seems to work pretty much everywhere. I caught a nice fat 18" rainbow on X creek just the other day using a #18 adams. -Greg – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was down at Silver Creek, south of Ketchum Idaho last week. For those who don’t know, it’s a semi-famous spring creek, loaded with birds, big fish and well-equipped, competative-agressive flyfishermen. It is a beautiful stream. Moreover I was lucky to get there just in time for its legendary Brown Drake hatch…which only lasts for 5-10 days. (now over). The big drakes hatch at night, starting just at dark, limited to those parts of the stream with enough silt to support their silt-loving nymphs. PUNCHLINE: As dark approached, I shared the stream with wall-to-wall fishermen. It reminded my of openning day in New Jersey. I almost left. But once the hatch started, I forgot all complaints. Billions of mayflies as big as your thumb brought thousands of fish to the surface. The birds went nuts. I fished three dry flies simultaneously, and outfished everyone in sight. I caught a fish every third cast for nearly two hours. I had a huge drake on, followed by a stimulator, followed by a #12 parachute adams. The drake made it easy to find my fly in the diminishing light. But nearly all the fish I caught took the #12 adams…despite the presense of billions of #4 mayflies. A few took the stimulator. Only one fish all night took the big drake pattern. Everyone else around me fished big drake patterns, and despite the profusion of bugs….most of them worked hard for 2-3 fish. I must have caught close to 30. That’s fishin… — I am who I am. I am who I’ve learned to be. I am Nothing.
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— I am who I am. I am who I’ve learned to be. I am Nothing.
atta boy, richard; an early entry into the quarter-finals of the john asadi amazing post of the year award. wayno
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – God bless the Parachute Adams! Usually my first (and only) choice. I was down at Silver Creek, south of Ketchum Idaho last week. For those who don’t know, it’s a semi-famous spring creek, loaded with birds, big fish and well-equipped, competative-agressive flyfishermen. It is a beautiful stream. Moreover I was lucky to get there just in time for its legendary Brown Drake hatch…which only lasts for 5-10 days. (now over). The big drakes hatch at night, starting just at dark, limited to those parts of the stream with enough silt to support their silt-loving nymphs. PUNCHLINE: As dark approached, I shared the stream with wall-to-wall fishermen. It reminded my of openning day in New Jersey. I almost left. But once the hatch started, I forgot all complaints. Billions of mayflies as big as your thumb brought thousands of fish to the surface. The birds went nuts. I fished three dry flies simultaneously,
and outfished everyone in sight.
I caught a fish every third cast for nearly two hours. I had a huge drake on, followed by a stimulator, followed by a #12 parachute adams. The drake made it easy to find my fly in the diminishing light. But nearly all the fish I caught took the #12 adams…despite the presense of billions of #4 mayflies.
Hatch. A few took the stimulator. Only one fish all night took the big drake pattern. Everyone else around me fished big drake patterns, and despite the profusion of bugs….most of them worked hard for 2-3 fish. I must have caught close to 30. That’s fishin… — I am who I am. I am who I’ve learned to be. I am Nothing but a trot line fly fisherman.
______ I’m pleased you had a happy evening kind sir. I wish I knew why they took the Adams instead. Curious. — Mr. G. "Gink Keeps It Up" http://www.gink.com
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Taxonomy of salmon is still messy, but the general agreement is as follows: Oncorhynchus: Pacific salmon = chum, chinook, pink, coho, sockey(kokanee), and masu (Asia). Trout = rainbow (steelhead), cutthroat, golden. Masu salmon (cherry salmon, or yamame) is placed into between North America Pacific salmon and trout in phylogeny.
Do you happen to know the specific name of the cherry salmon, Naohisa? Salmo: brown trout and Atlantic salmon Salvelinus (char): lake trout, brook trout, Arctic char, Dolly Varden, white-spotted char (Asia), and bull trout. NK Where do grayling fit in? Mike
They belong to the same family as salmon and chars, but the genus name is Thymallus for NA fish. I don’t know anything about he European grayling. Another question: Does anyone happen to know what an inconnu is? Dave
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Thanks Kat, I realized shortly after making that quick post I was in error. Same family, wrong genus! -Burton – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Where do grayling fit in? Char! -burton No, grayling are grayling (genus Thymallus), not char (genus Salvelinus). However, both grayling and char are members of the family Salmonidae. and the inconnu is a big, mean whitefish (Stenodus leucicthys). Do check backwards in your threading if you can, because George Gehrke posted rather a motherlode of info about the inconnu. — K.G. (Kat) Cruickshank, ichthyophile. Toronto, Ontario, Canada. see my illustrations at http://www.mackerel.com/fish/home.html
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Where do grayling fit in? Char! -burton
No, grayling are grayling (genus Thymallus), not char (genus Salvelinus). However, both grayling and char are members of the family Salmonidae. and the inconnu is a big, mean whitefish (Stenodus leucicthys). Do check backwards in your threading if you can, because George Gehrke posted rather a motherlode of info about the inconnu. — K.G. (Kat) Cruickshank, ichthyophile. Toronto, Ontario, Canada. see my illustrations at http://www.mackerel.com/fish/home.html
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The inconnu is NOT a minnow. — Gary
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: The inconnu is NOT a minnow. This is indeed true. The inconnu (known as "shee" in much of Alaska, and "coney" in some areas) is a whitefish, and hence a salmonid. They do grow much larger than other whitefish species – a probable upper limit is around 80 lbs – and forage fish make up the major part of their diet. Their jaws are not underslung – in fact, the mouth does resemble that of a tarpon. It’s pretty safe to say that an inconnu bears as much resemblance to other *whitefish* as a tarpon bears to other *herring*. They are found throughout the far north, particularly in the Yukon and Mackenzie drainages. The fish spend some part of their lives in salt water, though what portion is unclear for some watersheds. I have seen native fishermen unloading netted inconnu at Ft. Resolution, NWT, which is at the mouth of the Slave River. This is about 1250 miles from salt water, so it is possible that these fish spend much, perhaps even all, of their time in Great Slave Lake. On the other hand, a fish caught well down in the Mackenzie Delta, or in some coastal river in Alaska, is probably in and out of the saltwater on a week by week basis. As with all northern fish, growth is slow and the fish live a long time. In Great Slave Lake, for example, it takes 7-10 years to produce a spawning sized lake trout (17-20 inches, 2-3 lbs) and the very large fish are figured at 1 – 1.5 years per pound. Fish having access to saltwater, including lake trout, arctic char, and (presumably) inconnu, will grow considerably faster. George’s projection that a 50# inconnu might be 150 years old is stretching it a bit, but 30-40 is indeed possible. Great care must therefore be taken when deciding to keep *any* northern fish – you can do a lot of damage in a short time. 3798 Woodland Drive voice: (250) 368-9315 Trail, BC data: (250) 368-9341
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [some deleted just for the hell of it...] T-bone…. in a taxonomic class all his own. "Giganticus Dicki Brainius Coloradoensis" You got the order family ralph, but messed up on the genus and species. TimW Oh get your hand out of your pants!
You tellin’ me I can’t fly fish at work ? TimW
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Salmo: brown trout and Atlantic salmon Salvelinus (char): lake trout, brook trout, Arctic char, Dolly Varden, white-spotted char (Asia), and bull trout. Where do grayling fit in?
Char! -burton
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Where do grayling fit in?
Same family as (gasp!) mountain whitefish Charlie Quinton
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [some deleted just for the hell of it...] T-bone…. in a taxonomic class all his own. "Giganticus Dicki Brainius Coloradoensis" You got the order family ralph, but messed up on the genus and species. TimW Oh get your hand out of your pants! You tellin’ me I can’t fly fish at work ? TimW
Well if it gives you a thrill… but be carefull some lithe young thing doesn’t come by to catch and kill your trouser trout!
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Philip Jones of the U.K. asks if we have grayling over here. Yes, but our Arctic grayling (Thymallus arctics) is not the same as the European grayling (T. thymallus). They’re pretty much alike, except that our grayling has a larger, and often more colorful dorsal fin, and those I’ve caught have been generally smaller than the ones I’ve caught in Europe, especially in Sweden, Croatia, and Slovenia. Mike Uetz’s buddies must be fishing in the vicinity of Churchill, Manitoba, because that’s about the only place you should find both grayling and searun brook trout (char). Grayling waters are all west of Hudson Bay. In the U.S., Canada has scads of ‘em, but in the Lower 48 we have only a relict population in western Montana. Michigan used to have them (and even has a town named Grayling), but they were extirpated by habitat destruction, pollution, and possibly overfishing. My Montana grayling aficionados fish for them with size 28 Trico patterns, but in Alaska, they’ll attack almost anything, even the big spoons and Mepps spinners favored by salmon, pike, and muskie fishermen. In Europe, I have found that grayling will take a wide variety of flies, from Red Tags to hairwing salmon flies. An odd thing: From time to time, especially in Sweden, I’ve had European grayling strike and miss repeatedly. At other times, they are as likely as Arctic grayling to nail a flie on the first strike. In Croatia and Slovenia, I found them to be extremely picky at times in Slovenia and very, very choosy in Croatia. — Gary Soucie / Writer / Editor / Editorial Consultant Traveling With Fly Rod and Reel * Home Waters: A Fly-Fishing Anthology * Soucie’s Field Guide of Fishing Facts * Hook, Line, and Sinker: The Complete Angler’s Guide to Terminal Tackle
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Do you have grayling in N America? They are just now coming into their own in the UK – along with the first frosts. They are a very welcome Winter attraction whilst the salmon and trout spawn. It is said that the grayling, Thymallus Thymallus, smells of thyme and acquired the name because of this. I have never been able to detect the smell of thyme. Cucumber, possibly. They are lovely fish! Sometimes easy to catch, sometimes impossible – amazing how they always select the Red Tag from a cast of three flies! — Phil Jones
We have them but you pretty much need to go to the borreal forest area (aka a long way from where I live) to get at them. Most guys I know have fished for them on fly in trips as a change of pace from lake trout or northern sea run brook trout. Mike
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Where do grayling fit in?
They are Thymallus which is a different genus from above ones. In fact, they are in different sub-family, Thymallinae. Salmon, trout, and char are in sub-family Salmoninae. Family Salmonidae has three subfamily, Salmoninae, Thymallinae, and Coregoninae (whitefishes). NK
Do you have grayling in N America? They are just now coming into their own in the UK – along with the first frosts. They are a very welcome Winter attraction whilst the salmon and trout spawn. It is said that the grayling, Thymallus Thymallus, smells of thyme and acquired the name because of this. I have never been able to detect the smell of thyme. Cucumber, possibly. They are lovely fish! Sometimes easy to catch, sometimes impossible – amazing how they always select the Red Tag from a cast of three flies! — Phil Jones
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Taxonomy of salmon is still messy, but the general agreement is as follows: Oncorhynchus: Pacific salmon = chum, chinook, pink, coho, sockey(kokanee), and masu (Asia). Trout = rainbow (steelhead), cutthroat, golden. Masu salmon (cherry salmon, or yamame) is placed into between North America Pacific salmon and trout in phylogeny. Salmo: brown trout and Atlantic salmon Salvelinus (char): lake trout, brook trout, Arctic char, Dolly Varden, white-spotted char (Asia), and bull trout. NK
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Taxonomy of salmon is still messy, but the general agreement is as follows: Oncorhynchus: Pacific salmon = chum, chinook, pink, coho, sockey(kokanee), and masu (Asia). Trout = rainbow (steelhead), cutthroat, golden. Masu salmon (cherry salmon, or yamame) is placed into between North America Pacific salmon and trout in phylogeny. Salmo: brown trout and Atlantic salmon Salvelinus (char): lake trout, brook trout, Arctic char, Dolly Varden, white-spotted char (Asia), and bull trout.
Cunnilingus humongous: Trouser Trout, Pants Python, Levi Lizard TimW
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[some deleted just for the hell of it...] T-bone…. in a taxonomic class all his own. "Giganticus Dicki Brainius Coloradoensis" You got the order family ralph, but messed up on the genus and species. TimW
Oh get your hand out of your pants!
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Taxonomy of salmon is still messy, but the general agreement is as follows: Oncorhynchus: Pacific salmon = chum, chinook, pink, coho, sockey(kokanee), and masu (Asia). Trout = rainbow (steelhead), cutthroat, golden. Masu salmon (cherry salmon, or yamame) is placed into between North America Pacific salmon and trout in phylogeny. Do you happen to know the specific name of the cherry salmon, Naohisa? Salmo: brown trout and Atlantic salmon Salvelinus (char): lake trout, brook trout, Arctic char, Dolly Varden, white-spotted char (Asia), and bull trout. NK Where do grayling fit in? Mike They belong to the same family as salmon and chars, but the genus name is Thymallus for NA fish. I don’t know anything about he European grayling. Another question: Does anyone happen to know what an inconnu is? Dave
No – don’t know about inconnu (in fact, isn’t that what inconnu means – unknown?) but I know about S Salar, S Trutta and T Thymallus in the UK. Each of them is great. Would you like me to tell you about them? — Phil Jones Turnpike evaluation. For information, see http://www.turnpike.com/
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Another question: Does anyone happen to know what an inconnu is? The inconnu, Stenodus leucichthys, is a large, predatory whitefish which lives in the Far North. It has a basic salmonlike shape, with large scales, a deeply forked tail, and a large head with a very large mouth. It migrates into rivers in June and July and spawns in the fall. It ages slowly and can weigh over 50 lbs. It is the only predatory member of the whitefish tribe found in North America. Its common name is French for "unknown". — K.G. (Kat) Cruickshank, ichthyophile. Toronto, Ontario, Canada. see my illustrations at http://www.mackerel.com/fish/home.html
Tarpon of the North" It spends most of its feeding year in the brackish waters of bays where fresh water and salt flats mix. The Inconnu is by far, one of the largest minnow species known to man. Its mating cycle is not only buried in mystery, until recently as fifteen years ago when an expedition I was on made a major study of them. Basically, it goes like this. The big females come up river such as the Kobuck River just above the Artic Circle where I fished for them with Jim Teeney, in early fall. The moon phase has to be just right. The tidal cycle has to be just right, the temperatures have to be just right, the river sandy bottom has to be just right, and many things we yet don’t know . . . has to be just right for spawning to take place. Just finding these ‘Fish of Mystery’ was the hardest thing as they slip into long ridges of sand that run with the river but cross-wise, look like the letter ‘m’ in which at the top of the ‘m’ these fish lay in long rows in the sand valleys. They simply, wait. For weeks, they will wait and when the magnetic fields, the moon, the temperature, including all the wizardry that mother nature can throw at you . . . the females, burgering with roe/eggs that are rich, very small, and white hinging on white/yellow they come to the surface . . . as if trying to swim to the moon. The females backs will come to the surface and they will start releasing eggs. Millions of them and along with them the males eject sperm in copious amounts to mix with the now drifting eggs. The timing has to be absolutely perfect. Now fertilized, these eggs . . . which are very sticky, start to sink down and along these long trenches of sand and they settle to the bottom. But that isn’t the final act. The little eggs start to roll along the sand and it sticks to the eggs and sure enough, they become camoflauged and other preditory fish cannot find them anymore because these very small eggs have no smell, they become invisable, and they become somewhat buried in the sand trenches. Life, begins to take form. It is soon enough, left alone to fend for themselves for the Tarpon of the North leave the young behind to return to the call of the salt that is in their blood. They race for the sea! Never to return again until next fall. The food fair of the Inconnu is probably the finest of all fish that God ever put in water. It is twice as good as walleye and the roe makes White Sturgeon Roe seem ridiculas as table fair. Inconnu is by far the richest, most tastefully wonderful roe in the world. You literally slice it like you would cross-ways a loin. You fry it in butter, a touch of garlic if you like and a sprinkle of parsley and lace with a smile of fine pepper and sea-salt. You may wish to try frying in a skillet braized with a slice of bacon. No more is needed, if anything. Your mind, will literally scream in estacy. The Shee Fish (another name for this wonderful game fish in which I set the IGFA first world record) grows slowly. Its age at fifty pounds is well over a hundred and fifty years old. It would be nothing for a ten pounder to be thirty five years old . . . and as table fare, against age, killing a Shee Fish is really a rather mindless thing to do these days as more and more anglers discover them. It would take a real man to realease a large Shee Fish. In those days, we had to keep a rare damaged fish because there where those in the party that used treble hooks (guides) who were not all fly fishermen and the Indians up around the Kobuck River don’t give a damned about anything except government dollars and if it moves, kill it or feed it to the dogs. There is no shame in Alaska . . . yet. The Shee-Fish will give you exactly three excellent jumps that are as Tarpon-like as you could hope for and five jumps is somewhat rare but possible. It is an exciting fish to hunt and is not a fish for every body to enjoy. Gut-em and Eat-em is possible just once on a little one as they will average five or six pounds. But without exception, and Inconnu that exceeds ten pounds should be released. I hope this helps in your interest in one of the greatest mysteries of the late 20th Century, until the last dozen or so years. If you go in pursuit of the Inconnu . . . go with a kind and understanding heart. You will catch fish as old as yourself, most likely and certainly older than your children. Life, at this pace is not food for life. Mr. G.
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Cherry salmon = Oncorhynchus masu (in older taxonomies also listed as O. rhodurus and O. biwa) To K’s good answer on inconnu, all I will add is that some anglers refer to it as sheefish, and it’s also sometimes called conny or Eskimo tarpon. — Gary Soucie / Writer / Editor / Editorial Consultant Traveling With Fly Rod and Reel * Home Waters: A Fly-Fishing Anthology * Soucie’s Field Guide of Fishing Facts * Hook, Line, and Sinker: The Complete Angler’s Guide to Terminal Tackle
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Do you happen to know the specific name of the cherry salmon, Naohisa?
You mean thier scientific name? It is Oncorhynchus masou. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Salmo: brown trout and Atlantic salmon Salvelinus (char): lake trout, brook trout, Arctic char, Dolly Varden, white-spotted char (Asia), and bull trout. NK Where do grayling fit in? Mike They belong to the same family as salmon and chars, but the genus name is Thymallus for NA fish. I don’t know anything about he European grayling.
Same. Europian grayling is Thymallus thymallus. Another question: Does anyone happen to know what an inconnu is? Dave
? Naohisa
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Another question: Does anyone happen to know what an inconnu is?
The inconnu, Stenodus leucichthys, is a large, predatory whitefish which lives in the Far North. It has a basic salmonlike shape, with large scales, a deeply forked tail, and a large head with a very large mouth. It migrates into rivers in June and July and spawns in the fall. It ages slowly and can weigh over 50 lbs. It is the only predatory member of the whitefish tribe found in North America. Its common name is French for "unknown". — K.G. (Kat) Cruickshank, ichthyophile. Toronto, Ontario, Canada. see my illustrations at http://www.mackerel.com/fish/home.html
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Taxonomy of salmon is still messy, but the general agreement is as follows: Oncorhynchus: Pacific salmon = chum, chinook, pink, coho, sockey(kokanee), and masu (Asia). Trout = rainbow (steelhead), cutthroat, golden. Masu salmon (cherry salmon, or yamame) is placed into between North America Pacific salmon and trout in phylogeny. Salmo: brown trout and Atlantic salmon Salvelinus (char): lake trout, brook trout, Arctic char, Dolly Varden, white-spotted char (Asia), and bull trout. Cunnilingus humongous: Trouser Trout, Pants Python, Levi Lizard TimW
T-bone…. in a taxonomic class all his own. "Giganticus Dicki Brainius Coloradoensis"
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Taxonomy of salmon is still messy, but the general agreement is as follows: Oncorhynchus: Pacific salmon = chum, chinook, pink, coho, sockey(kokanee), and masu (Asia). Trout = rainbow (steelhead), cutthroat, golden. Masu salmon (cherry salmon, or yamame) is placed into between North America Pacific salmon and trout in phylogeny. Salmo: brown trout and Atlantic salmon Salvelinus (char): lake trout, brook trout, Arctic char, Dolly Varden, white-spotted char (Asia), and bull trout. NK Where do grayling fit in? Mike
They are Thymallus which is a different genus from above ones. In fact, they are in different sub-family, Thymallinae. Salmon, trout, and char are in sub-family Salmoninae. Family Salmonidae has three subfamily, Salmoninae, Thymallinae, and Coregoninae (whitefishes). NK
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Taxonomy of salmon is still messy, but the general agreement is as follows: Oncorhynchus: Pacific salmon = chum, chinook, pink, coho, sockey(kokanee), and masu (Asia). Trout = rainbow (steelhead), cutthroat, golden. Masu salmon (cherry salmon, or yamame) is placed into between North America Pacific salmon and trout in phylogeny. Salmo: brown trout and Atlantic salmon Salvelinus (char): lake trout, brook trout, Arctic char, Dolly Varden, white-spotted char (Asia), and bull trout. NK
Where do grayling fit in? Mike
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: I have begun to fish there the ;ast few years and would like to know more : about the rivers history, effective patterns and the use of feather wing : salmon flies. : _Atlantic Salmon Flies and Fishing_ by Joseph D. Bates, Jr. (1970, : Stackpole Books) will give you much of this information. It’s been long : out of print and so it’s hard to find, but there has recently been talk of : it being reissued. It’s the best source of historical info on featherwings Hunters Angling Supplies in New Hampshire (?) list Bate’s book in their ‘95 catalogue. Sorry don’t have thier number handy but I seem to recall the book cost aboout $65. Cheers, tim Troutdale, OR
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I am interested in exchanging information with people that have some experience in salmon fishing on the Miramichi. I have begun to fish there the ;ast few years and would like to know more about the rivers history, effective patterns and the use of feather wing salmon flies. Thanks. George George
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I am interested in exchanging information with people that have some experience in salmon fishing on the Miramichi. I have begun to fish there the ;ast few years and would like to know more about the rivers history, effective patterns and the use of feather wing salmon flies. Thanks. George George
I would be pleased to participate in a discussion of these subjects, since the Miramichi flows "through my backyard". I can see the river from by back door (unfortunately ice-covered at the moment). I will watch this newsgroups for follow-up postings relating to this thread.
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I am interested in exchanging information with people that have some experience in salmon fishing on the Miramichi. I have begun to fish there the ;ast few years and would like to know more about the rivers history, effective patterns and the use of feather wing salmon flies.
_Atlantic Salmon Flies and Fishing_ by Joseph D. Bates, Jr. (1970, Stackpole Books) will give you much of this information. It’s been long out of print and so it’s hard to find, but there has recently been talk of it being reissued. It’s the best source of historical info on featherwings by tiers such as Ira Gruber. There are also a couple of paperback books by Wayne Curtis which have similar information, and these you can find in stores in the Miramichi valley. The titles of these books escape me at the moment. If you have not yet done so, visit the Miramichi Salmon Museum in Doaktown; where much of the region’s angling heritage has been preserved. The exhibits of flies may particularly interest you. Woods Hole, MA USA
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I would be pleased to participate in a discussion of these subjects, since the Miramichi flows "through my backyard". I can see the river from by back door (unfortunately ice-covered at the moment). I will watch this newsgroups for follow-up postings relating to this thread.
I am interested in fishing late summer of 1995. Is this a reasonable time and what suggestions for lodging etc. I am strickly flyfish, catch and release and would love dry fly action. What are the chances for Sept.?
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I have had limited experience in July and September but have had sucess on both. The weather was not suitable for dry flies so most fishing was done on a dry line with green machines in size 8 – 12 doubles. The September trip, just before the close of the season was very good until it rained heavily. All four members of my party caught fish in good size. The fished jumped and ran repeatedly. There are many other more experienced people that seem interested in this topic so I will defer to their information. I would look forward to the trip in either month but expect it to be fishing – dependent upon conditions. George (MMMGH) George
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Jay, At least one or two others have expressed interest in this topic. I will look forward to reading your opinions on the subjects. One question I would ask is generally speaking, what color combinations have you found most effective over the years? George George
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