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riverman, try this site if you get access to internet http://scandicangler.com/ it has virtually no delay when it comes to posts on R.O.F.F.

Thanks Roger, but, uh, I have absolutely no idea how to use that site!! Its in some furrin’ language! <g riverman

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Damn! I saw the English flag but never tried it since I have no problem reading Norwegian, or Danish for that matter. You can always keep the adress in mind, maybe they will come up with the English version soon (at least they have prepared for it). Yours/ Roger Taking things for granted will eventually cause problems.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – riverman, try this site if you get access to internet http://scandicangler.com/ it has virtually no delay when it comes to posts on R.O.F.F. Thanks Roger, but, uh, I have absolutely no idea how to use that site!! Its in some furrin’ language! <g riverman

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Yee Ha! At least I’ve got you on age!  40 coming up shortly. bruce h

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Yee Ha! At least I’ve got you on age!  40 coming up shortly.

Old fart in training!  Old fart in training!!!!!  Bawahahahaha!!!!!! — Warren (who isn’t the youngest on ROFF, but is younger than you!!:-) change addy to yahoo for email Henry’s Fork Clave info and Bozeman, MT fishing info http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/HFclave.html

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I don’t know if I’ll have newsgroup access in SA, or in Congo. If not, be assured I’ll be lurking via google.com, (someone say hello to me sometime; I’ll see it) and if possible, look forward to a progress report from the other side of the world once I find usenet access. Without usenet access, I’ll post some TRs via emails to another ROFFian.

riverman, try this site if you get access to internet http://scandicangler.com/ it has virtually no delay when it comes to posts on R.O.F.F. — Tight lines! / Roger Ohlund Daytime engineer Lifetime flyfisherman For info on flyfishing in northern Sweden visit http://home.bip.net/angler/

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riverman said: Maybe my posts are excellent, but my JUDGEMENT leaves something to be desired… Then it’s *gotta* be for the big bucks! It can’t be for the scenery.  :( — TL, Tim

The bucks are OK, but nothing to write home about. I guess mostly I’m doing it for the experience. That, and my partner threatened to leave me if I spent another day gawking at the women in Riga. In retrospect, it was a pretty risky play on her part.   :-/ riverman

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(snip) Man, the youth, the travel, the free time, the Russian women. Your posts are excellent Riverman. bruce h

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(snip) Man, the youth, the travel, the free time, the Russian women. Your posts are excellent Riverman.

Why, thank you Bruiser! But maybe you missed the gist of that post….see, I’m LEAVING this region (with the beautiful Russian women) and going to the middle of AIDs and malaria-mosquito infested Dark Africa, for 2 or 3 years, where there are no good trout streams, no political or social infrastructure, its 100 degrees in the shade, but there ain’t no shade, 99% humidity on the dry days, and my ‘youth’ (sneaking up on 45) is fading as rapidly as my prospects of scoring one of those Russian thong-mamas in the 2.5 days I have left here. Maybe my posts are excellent, but my JUDGEMENT leaves something to be desired… riverman

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (snip) Man, the youth, the travel, the free time, the Russian women. Your posts are excellent Riverman. Why, thank you Bruiser! But maybe you missed the gist of that post….see, I’m LEAVING this region (with the beautiful Russian women) and going to the middle of AIDs and malaria-mosquito infested Dark Africa, for 2 or 3 years, where there are no good trout streams, no political or social infrastructure, its 100 degrees in the shade, but there ain’t no shade, 99% humidity on the dry days, and my ‘youth’ (sneaking up on 45) is fading as rapidly as my prospects of scoring one of those Russian thong-mamas in the 2.5 days I have left here. Maybe my posts are excellent, but my JUDGEMENT leaves something to be desired…

Then it’s *gotta* be for the big bucks! It can’t be for the scenery.  :( — TL, Tim

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – And the women in this part of the world are the most beautiful anywhere I have ever been, and thats a lot of places. Stop you in your tracks beautiful. what is your line of work, riverman?  do you need an english-speaking assistant?  free legal service?  do the process servers in riga take bribes?  is schwepps tonic water readily available? a rapid response will be much appreciated by

wayno: I teach school, and sure I could use an english-speaking assistant  Let me warn you, though, once you visit a place like this, your freaking life is ruined forever. Check out this article: http://www.csica.com/selyanka/newreports.htm And, yes they take bribes, schwepps is available, and I leave on Sunday. Like I said, Stupid Plan… riverman (who is impressed that you are the only roffian to notice the lowercase ‘r’)

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<snip Here in Riga, the days are currently 23 hours long, the weather clear and bright, and as you move northwards through Estonia and Finland (as some recent TRs have exposed), the trout/greyling fishing becomes world-class at this time of year. You can basically follow the ‘early spring’ conditions north to your hearts desire, and there are hundreds of thousands of spots to fish.

<snip <snip And at this moment, I have 3 months pay in my pocket, 11 weeks vacation,

.. <snip Look at it this way, the days won’t be as long and your your cash supply a little smaller, but the grayling fishing will be even better when you get back in the autumn. Have a safe journey /Roger

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And the women in this part of the world are the most beautiful anywhere I have ever been, and thats a lot of places. Stop you in your tracks beautiful.

        what is your line of work, riverman?  do you need an english-speaking assistant?  free legal service?  do the process servers in riga take bribes?  is schwepps tonic water readily available?         a rapid response will be much appreciated by your friend in the old north state wayno  (have lust, will travel)

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I don’t know if I’ll have newsgroup access in SA, or in Congo. If not, be assured I’ll be lurking via google.com, (someone say hello to me sometime; I’ll see it) and if possible, look forward to a progress report from the other side of the world once I find usenet access. Without usenet access, I’ll post some TRs via emails to another ROFFian.

By the way, you can get a google account, based upon a hotmail account, and post to your hearts content.  It does take a few hours to catch up, google is not instant posting, but hey, its free access.  I am truely interested in the flies you use on hippos.  Goodluck on the Summer to Winter thing (once flew from Clark AB in the Philipines to Minot AFB, ND). — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply.

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In a day or two, I’m off for the summer and I don’t know if or when I can get back to ROFF. The Czechs have a word for ‘pretrip anxiety/blues’ and although I cannot remember what it is, I certainly have it. Cutting the cord to this wacky group certainly doesn’t help. Tight Lines, and good summer (to the Northern Hemisphere folks) riverman

Enjoy your *Holiday*, and travel safely Riverman! Op

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In a day or two, I’m off for the summer and I don’t know if or when I can get back to ROFF. The Czechs have a word for ‘pretrip anxiety/blues’ and although I cannot remember what it is, I certainly have it. Cutting the cord to this wacky group certainly doesn’t help. Here in Riga, the days are currently 23 hours long, the weather clear and bright, and as you move northwards through Estonia and Finland (as some recent TRs have exposed), the trout/greyling fishing becomes world-class at this time of year. You can basically follow the ‘early spring’ conditions north to your hearts desire, and there are hundreds of thousands of spots to fish. And the women in this part of the world are the most beautiful anywhere I have ever been, and thats a lot of places. Stop you in your tracks beautiful. And at this moment, I have 3 months pay in my pocket, 11 weeks vacation, an apartment all rented, a solid 4WD truck, camping gear, fishing gear, and nothing on my datebook….except for a flight this sunday to Cape Town. South Africa. …..where its winter, dreary, days are 10 hours long, and trout streams are few, far between, and not heavily populated with fish. And its the off-season. Why am I doing this? Got to. Got important things to do in SA that will take time. Visas, shipments, travel arrangement to my next destination in Congo. Got a girlfriend to meet in 2 weeks, got a place to stay and friends to see. Hopefully I’ll get a chance to hook up with Ari Bert, maybe find an elusive trout or two. Possibly spend a few days dodging hippos and crocs on a river, we’ll see. Also have plans to do some surf casting on both coasts with different friends; a Professor Emeritus that I met in Kruger a few years back, and an Italian Chef that I know through my partner. Should be interesting. I don’t know if I’ll have newsgroup access in SA, or in Congo. If not, be assured I’ll be lurking via google.com, (someone say hello to me sometime; I’ll see it) and if possible, look forward to a progress report from the other side of the world once I find usenet access. Without usenet access, I’ll post some TRs via emails to another ROFFian. Take care, all, and its been great fun meeting you, both IRL (Stan, Jarmo, Charlie, Mike, Hermann, Marcel) and online (everyone else). Tight Lines, and good summer (to the Northern Hemisphere folks) riverman

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -What would the investment in equipment be to make high quality: 1. Bamboo Rods 2. Hooks (including a chemical sharpener) I have seen some equipment on the web and things like that, but if one wanted to go into production to make Bamboo rods of high quality and low cost, what do you think it would take?  I think I will call my new rods…..wait for it…..BITCH yep, that’s it…<g I assume that hooks are made completely by machine.  Ummmm, I wonder how much a machine like that costs?… — Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other."  – George Eliot

Did you actually _read_ the quote in your signature? <G R …does "Padishar Creel" mean "shit stirrer" in elf<G? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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I have some pics (somewhere) from a hookmaker in Redditch England  and they use a number of very simple machines just dedicated to one task such as forming the eye and one for putting on the bend etc. Cane rods are difficult because cane is a very difficult material  to work with and a 4ft strip of cane takes ‘x’ amount of time to machine. There is a feed and speed relationship that cannot be bridged, everything takes time. You can develop machines making it possible to employ an operator for $10 per hour and break the craft down into managable steps (as did Henry Ford)  It does not matter how you cut it, cane can never be cheap. If George had any production experience he would not have mouthed off so much before ever building a rod. He really listened to the wrong people. But if he can knock out the blanks at a timely rate and find a market for them which I am sure there is then he can scrape by. Terry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -What would the investment in equipment be to make high quality: 1. Bamboo Rods 2. Hooks (including a chemical sharpener) I have seen some equipment on the web and things like that, but if one wanted to go into production to make Bamboo rods of high quality and low cost, what do you think it would take?  I think I will call my new rods…..wait for it…..BITCH yep, that’s it…<g I assume that hooks are made completely by machine.  Ummmm, I wonder how much a machine like that costs?… — Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other."  – George Eliot

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I assume that hooks are made completely by machine.  Ummmm, I wonder how much a machine like that costs?… — Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other."  – George Eliot Did you actually _read_ the quote in your signature? <G …does "Padishar Creel" mean "shit stirrer" in elf<G?

—— Richard, your so right!  I thought stiring stuff about about fly fishing might be able to compete with all the political pot stiring.  I see I may have been right… —- Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other."  – George Eliot

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What would the investment in equipment be to make high quality:  1. Bamboo Rods  2. Hooks (including a chemical sharpener) I have seen some equipment on the web and things like that, but if one wanted to go into production to make Bamboo rods of high quality and low cost, what do you think it would take?  I think I will call my new rods…..wait for it…..BITCH yep, that’s it…<g I assume that hooks are made completely by machine.  Ummmm, I wonder how much a machine like that costs?… — Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other."  – George Eliot

I know I said I’d lurk a while without chiming in much, but I can’t resist —- I WANNA BUY A BITCH!!! <BFG

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have some pics (somewhere) from a hookmaker in Redditch England  and they use a number of very simple machines just dedicated to one task such as forming the eye and one for putting on the bend etc. Cane rods are difficult because cane is a very difficult material  to work with and a 4ft strip of cane takes ‘x’ amount of time to machine. There is a feed and speed relationship that cannot be bridged, everything takes time. You can develop machines making it possible to employ an operator for $10 per hour and break the craft down into managable steps (as did Henry Ford)  It does not matter how you cut it, cane can never be cheap. If George had any production experience he would not have mouthed off so much before ever building a rod. He really listened to the wrong people. But if he can knock out the blanks at a timely rate and find a market for them which I am sure there is then he can scrape by. Terry What would the investment in equipment be to make high quality: 1. Bamboo Rods 2. Hooks (including a chemical sharpener) I have seen some equipment on the web and things like that, but if one wanted to go into production to make Bamboo rods of high quality and low cost, what do you think it would take?  I think I will call my new rods…..wait for it…..BITCH yep, that’s it…<g I assume that hooks are made completely by machine.  Ummmm, I wonder how much a machine like that costs?… — Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other."  – George Eliot

Scrape by?  I have a standing order for 1000 blanks.  Scrape by?  Surely you jest Ackland? — George G. Bastard Bamboo Fly Rods http://www.gink.com/ http://www.gink.com/chat

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What would the investment in equipment be to make high quality:  1. Bamboo Rods  2. Hooks (including a chemical sharpener) I have seen some equipment on the web and things like that, but if one wanted to go into production to make Bamboo rods of high quality and low cost, what do you think it would take?  I think I will call my new rods…..wait for it…..BITCH yep, that’s it…<g I assume that hooks are made completely by machine.  Ummmm, I wonder how much a machine like that costs?… — Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other."  – George Eliot I know I said I’d lurk a while without chiming in much, but I can’t resist —- I WANNA BUY A BITCH!!! <BFG

See?  There are so many spin off’s to my genius.  You’re all welcome.   — George G. Bastard Bamboo Fly Rods http://www.gink.com/ http://www.gink.com/chat

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I assume that hooks are made completely by machine.  Ummmm, I wonder how much a machine like that costs?… — Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other."  – George Eliot Did you actually _read_ the quote in your signature? <G …does "Padishar Creel" mean "shit stirrer" in elf<G? —— Richard, your so right!  I thought stiring stuff about about fly fishing might be able to compete with all the political pot stiring.  I see I may have been right…

Oh, what the hell… You mean you want to hear about the Duke of Erl’s plan to corner the hook market? And awa-a-a-y we go……<G. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text —– Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other."  – George Eliot

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What would the investment in equipment be to make high quality: 1. Bamboo Rods 2. Hooks (including a chemical sharpener) I have seen some equipment on the web and things like that, but if one wanted to go into production to make Bamboo rods of high quality and low cost, what do you think it would take?  I think I will call my new rods…..wait for it…..BITCH yep, that’s it…<g I assume that hooks are made completely by machine.  Ummmm, I wonder how much a machine like that costs?…

You want quality – and quantity? Well, there’s a bankrupt faker living in a single-wide on the Snake River that is bound to respond to your question. However, you should understand that he knows nothing about either. Set mode = ignore for your own sanity.

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Scrape by would be the right term to use. Mr. Sage can wrap a $4 piece of Carbon fiber around a mandrel in 5 minutes and get more than you can get for your blanks. Sad but true, Terry   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have some pics (somewhere) from a hookmaker in Redditch England  and they use a number of very simple machines just dedicated to one task such as forming the eye and one for putting on the bend etc. Cane rods are difficult because cane is a very difficult material  to work with and a 4ft strip of cane takes ‘x’ amount of time to machine. There is a feed and speed relationship that cannot be bridged, everything takes time. You can develop machines making it possible to employ an operator for $10 per hour and break the craft down into managable steps (as did Henry Ford)  It does not matter how you cut it, cane can never be cheap. If George had any production experience he would not have mouthed off so much before ever building a rod. He really listened to the wrong people. But if he can knock out the blanks at a timely rate and find a market for them which I am sure there is then he can scrape by. Terry What would the investment in equipment be to make high quality: 1. Bamboo Rods 2. Hooks (including a chemical sharpener) I have seen some equipment on the web and things like that, but if one wanted to go into production to make Bamboo rods of high quality and low cost, what do you think it would take?  I think I will call my new rods…..wait for it…..BITCH yep, that’s it…<g I assume that hooks are made completely by machine.  Ummmm, I wonder how much a machine like that costs?… — Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other."  – George Eliot Scrape by?  I have a standing order for 1000 blanks.  Scrape by?  Surely you jest Ackland? — George G. Bastard Bamboo Fly Rods http://www.gink.com/ http://www.gink.com/chat

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I have seen some equipment on the web and things like that, but if one wanted to go into production to make Bamboo rods of high quality and low cost, what do you think it would take?

Let me put it to you this way… Let’s say you were able to sell 200 bamboo rods per year with a profit (after advertising, components, amortized equipment costs, salaries, etc) of $150 per rod. You’d make a whopping $30,000/year. You could do worse, of course, but there are *lots* of ways to make that much money with fewer startup costs and less risk. So let’s say that rather than trying to start a production line, you make them one-by-one instead. Quality over quantity. So, you buy a Morgan Hand Mill ($2500) and various other tools of the trade (another $1000–I know you could do it for less but if you were making professional quality rods you’d need professional quality tools). Then, you could–once you got a reputation–sell your rods for somewhere between $900 and $1500. Let’s say $1200, with a profit of $1000 per rod. So, let’s say it takes you 40 hours per rod. Assuming a 2000 hour year and unlimited demand, you could sell 50 rods and make an even more whopping $50,000/year. But the key here is unlimited demand. I’d be shocked if there are more than a couple of full-time custom builders making more than $30K/year. You can live off of $30K/year, of course. But you could make more money with less risk by taking a two-month computer training course. Plus you could get paid to read ROFF So why don’t you do this: build ten rods for the fun and experience of it. Since they won’t be perfect rods, give them away. You’ll have a great time, learn some of the tricks of the trade, and a few other folks will get to fish with the fruits of your labors. After you make ten rods, chances are that some of the pleasure will wear off and the reality that making rod-building a profession would be hard, tedious work will begin to set in. Sounds somehow familiar –Steve

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Why do I think that there are some folks who already get paid to read ROFF even without having taken a computer training course?  Or is that just cynical?  ;-) JR – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Some very interesting stuff about bamboo start-up costs snipped. You can live off of $30K/year, of course. But you could make more money with less risk by taking a two-month computer training course. Plus you could get paid to read ROFF

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Why do I think that there are some folks who already get paid to read ROFF even without having taken a computer training course?  Or is that just cynical?

Ah, good point. You clearly understand the concept of (mis)using OPM <g. –Steve

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What would the investment in equipment be to make high quality:  1. Bamboo Rods  2. Hooks (including a chemical sharpener) I have seen some equipment on the web and things like that, but if one wanted to go into production to make Bamboo rods of high quality and low cost, what do you think it would take?  I think I will call my new rods…..wait for it…..BITCH yep, that’s it…<g I assume that hooks are made completely by machine.  Ummmm, I wonder how much a machine like that costs?… — Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other."  – George Eliot

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have seen some equipment on the web and things like that, but if one wanted to go into production to make Bamboo rods of high quality and low cost, what do you think it would take? Let me put it to you this way… Let’s say you were able to sell 200 bamboo rods per year with a profit (after advertising, components, amortized equipment costs, salaries, etc) of $150 per rod. You’d make a whopping $30,000/year. You could do worse, of course, but there are *lots* of ways to make that much money with fewer startup costs and less risk. So let’s say that rather than trying to start a production line, you make them one-by-one instead. Quality over quantity.  

______  This is the hole in your thesis Steve.  "Quality over Quantity" It is now possible and it is now being done here to have both because a machine can do more accurately what a human can do with a plane, and do it a hundred times better. And cheaper.  This equates into being a Bastard, I guess. George G. Bastard Bamboo Fly Rods http://www.gink.com/ http://www.gink.com/chat

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have seen some equipment on the web and things like that, but if one wanted to go into production to make Bamboo rods of high quality and low cost, what do you think it would take? Let me put it to you this way… Let’s say you were able to sell 200 bamboo rods per year with a profit (after advertising, components, amortized equipment costs, salaries, etc) of $150 per rod. You’d make a whopping $30,000/year. You could do worse, of course, but there are *lots* of ways to make that much money with fewer startup costs and less risk. So let’s say that rather than trying to start a production line, you make them one-by-one instead. Quality over quantity. ______  This is the hole in your thesis Steve.  "Quality over Quantity" It is now possible and it is now being done here to have both because a machine can do more accurately what a human can do with a plane, and do it a hundred times better. And cheaper.  This equates into being a Bastard, I guess. George G. Bastard Bamboo Fly Rods http://www.gink.com/ http://www.gink.com/chat

_______  By the way Steve, what are you paying for one Clum of Bamboo now and where are you buying it from? — George G. Bastard Bamboo Fly Rods http://www.gink.com/ http://www.gink.com/chat

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have seen some equipment on the web and things like that, but if one wanted to go into production to make Bamboo rods of high quality and low cost, what do you think it would take? Let me put it to you this way… Let’s say you were able to sell 200 bamboo rods per year with a profit (after advertising, components, amortized equipment costs, salaries, etc) of $150 per rod. You’d make a whopping $30,000/year. You could do worse, of course, but there are *lots* of ways to make that much money with fewer startup costs and less risk. So let’s say that rather than trying to start a production line, you make them one-by-one instead. Quality over quantity. So, you buy a Morgan Hand Mill ($2500) and various other tools of the trade (another $1000–I know you could do it for less but if you were making professional quality rods you’d need professional quality tools). Then, you could–once you got a reputation–sell your rods for somewhere between $900 and $1500. Let’s say $1200, with a profit of $1000 per rod. So, let’s say it takes you 40 hours per rod. Assuming a 2000 hour year and unlimited demand, you could sell 50 rods and make an even more whopping $50,000/year. But the key here is unlimited demand. I’d be shocked if there are more than a couple of full-time custom builders making more than $30K/year. You can live off of $30K/year, of course. But you could make more money with less risk by taking a two-month computer training course. Plus you could get paid to read ROFF So why don’t you do this: build ten rods for the fun and experience of it. Since they won’t be perfect rods, give them away. You’ll have a great time, learn some of the tricks of the trade, and a few other folks will get to fish with the fruits of your labors. After you make ten rods, chances are that some of the pleasure will wear off and the reality that making rod-building a profession would be hard, tedious work will begin to set in. Sounds somehow familiar –Steve

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Last weekend I camped on the Beaverkill river in Roscoe, NY.  Feeling somewhat daunted by the low water, I fished the first evening at Hendrickson Pool. There was a good spinner fall and some caddis activity.  I got a strike when it was barely light enough to see.  I set the hook, and got screeched into my backing.  It took me way upstream.  I was stranded on the large rock I stood on, not wanting to follow it in the dark.  I also knew that there was a wind knot in my tippet – making a breakoff a huge likelyhood. I finally managed to land the fish.  A nineteen inch brown trout – snagged right in the vent(you know, its asshole).  I wondered how I could have managed that with a dry fly.  I left, wondering whether to feel proud or cheated. The next night, I fished the same pool.  I noticed a rise in the same spot, and sent a drift through there.  It was the same nineteen inch brownie, this time hooked properly.  There were three guys within sight to watch me, and they all made appreciative remarks as I picked it out of the water. HA! Pete C

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Pete,    If that Brown came back for seconds on the kind of treatment he got on the first night, I think I would wonder about his sexual preferences. Ernie Harrison Like to make fly-fishing stuff?  See: http://users.ccnet.com/~emh/

<snip  A nineteen inch brown trout – snagged right in the vent(you know, its

asshole). <snip – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -The next night, I fished the same pool.  I noticed a rise in the same spot, and sent a drift through there.  It was the same nineteen inch brownie <snip Pete C

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If that Brown came back for seconds on the kind of treatment he got on the first night, I think I would wonder about his sexual preferences. Ernie Harrison..

Reminds me of the story of the massive alternative lifestyle grizzly bear..

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Register now for: Fly tying classes, instructor Derek Tay,  beginning January 1999 Fly Casting classes beginning April 1999 Christmas gift certificates available Atlantic Fly Fishing School Brookfield, Nova Scotia www.flyschool.net

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Register now for: Fly tying classes, instructor Derek Tay,  beginning January 1999 Fly Casting classes beginning April 1999 Christmas gift certificates available Atlantic Fly Fishing School Brookfield, Nova Scotia www.flyschool.net

____ Your http://www.flyschool.net  will show up blueif you add the http://  (I think!)  Why it didn’t light up as a web site, I don’t know.   Someone will tell me. Anyhow, I think teaching people "how" to use their hands tying flies is the primary goal before we teach them specific flies.  For example, how to use the hands to tie in tails, wings, tying knots, etc. When I go to Sports Shows with Fly Tiers, I will watch instructors on how they explain tying a fly, and FEW, if any ever cover what they are doing with their hands to properly divide the wings for that fly, for instance. "Sure, I know you use Calf Hair, but . . . " I will visit your site and see what you have. If you need to try some FLY-MAKER’S WAX or order some, let me know at: http://www.gink.com/ (Was I tactful enough with that fellahs?) no?  huh?

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you might visit http://www.troutangler.com they wont be too far out of your way. — happy trails, Mike Foate Polo Ponies, Ranch Vacation, Web Site Design http://www.rockinghorseranch.com

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Starting from Yosemite, crossing Nevada, Utah, Colorado and back to San Francisco. In early June (12 days). Where are the best places for flyfishing???? (catch & release, too) Accomodation suggestions?? Thanks in advance. Giovanni from Italy.

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Starting from Yosemite, crossing Nevada, Utah, Colorado and back to San Francisco. In early June (12 days). Where are the best places for flyfishing????

That is not enough time!   20 Lakes Basin east of Yosemite. Walker River, north on Hwy. 395 Truckee River north of there. Across Nevada and Utah, hit the all of the larger streams/rivers in CO.   —  markb – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Giovanni from Italy.

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Starting from Yosemite, crossing Nevada, Utah, Colorado and back to San Francisco. In early June (12 days). Where are the best places for flyfishing???? (catch & release, too) Accomodation suggestions?? Thanks in advance. Giovanni from Italy.

Giovanni: The period you will be fishing is pretty much dead in the middle of the "normal" spring runoff here in the Rockies.  With that in mind, you may find yourself sticking to tailwater streams below artificial lakes.  Another possibility is some of the lakes themselves. Here in Utah, three of the better-known tailwaters are the Green River below Flaming Gorge Reservoir, the Provo River below Jordanelle and Deer Creek Reservoirs, and Currant Creek below Currant Creek Reservoir.  All have extremely good fishing at times although the Provo and the Green tend to get a *lot* or pressure so the fish are fairly educated.  You can wade fish all of those streams, but you would probably have more luck on the Green if you hire a guide for a float trip – it’s a *big* river. I don’t know what your opinion of lake fishing with flies is, but there can be some very good fishing that time of year in some of the lakes in Utah. Strawberry Reservoir (about 1.5 hours south and east of Salt Lake City) is the premier lake in Utah, but there are many others that offer good fishing if you have a float tube or other type of boat.. Up in Wyoming, the New Fork River near Pinedale has the reputation as fishing the best early in the season, but there is very little public water.  You can, however, do float trips with a number of guide operations. I’ve never fished it, but the Ham’s Fork River outside Kemmerer is supposed to be very good.  Most of the other streams are fairly likely to be very high from runoff that time of year. A possible thought would be lake fishing on private water.  Western Rivers Flyfishing shop in Salt Lake City offers day trips on a number of lakes at a private ranch called L C Ranch.  Supposed to be VERY good fishing and they provide everything you might need. Good luck.  Accomodations are pretty easy that time of year here in Utah. Email me direct if you have any other questions. Bob

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I understand these boats are great for getting around the Texas flats looking for redfish and trout, but I wonder how a SOT kayak would handle the small rivers and lakes of central Texas. Anyone with experience on these craft?

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I bought an Aquaterra Swing last fall and have only fished out of it twice.  On both occasions, however, it has proved to be a very stable craft, quiet, and easy to paddle.  The one drawback is that you will get wet, so it’s much more comfortable in warm weather/water.  Of course, you could wear waders or a wet suit. I have yet to try it in moving water, but would think it would operate quite nicely in moderate flows. Regards,  -William Ivey – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I understand these boats are great for getting around the Texas flats looking for redfish and trout, but I wonder how a SOT kayak would handle the small rivers and lakes of central Texas. Anyone with experience on these craft?

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I thought of rigging outriggers to a regular kayak so you could stand while flyfishing if you desired. Anyone ever try this. MichaelSmith

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I understand these boats are great for getting around the Texas flats looking for redfish and trout, but I wonder how a SOT kayak would handle the small rivers and lakes of central Texas. Anyone with experience on these craft?

        I use an SOT for tooling around in the reservoirs and impoundments of central Virginia, and I have a blast.  I can duck into really shallow areas, and can portage the boat and my rod fairly easily.  My only trouble has been the occasional hooking of the bow hardware; it is really tough to pull any flies out without beaching.  However, I feel more stable in the SOT (don’t flame me-that is just a PERSONAL preference, not a condemnation of canoes), so I prefer it to a canoe.  Since SOTs are so responsive to the paddle, almost as much as a traditional kayak, I havesome  problems using mine in moving water and fishing at the same time.  I tend to get wrapped up in one or the other, so I can’t get both done.  However, from my days living in Houston, I remember some of the central Texas rivers like the Guadalupe are relatively slow, like our local river-fed impoundments.  By all means try it; I have a blast with mine. Dan Johnson

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I have been kayaking for several years, and have both sea and whitewater boats.  I often fish from my sea kayak.  As far as SOT’s go, they are the fastest growing segment in kayaking, so if you don’t like what’s out there now, wait until next year.  Best advice is visit the nearest dealer that carries the major brands of SOT’s (Aquaterra, Dagger, Ocean Kayak), and paddle them all — take your gear and see how it fits on and in the boat.  See how stable/unstable it is while casting.  Any good dealer will spend the time with you so you get what you want.   Most likely you will find a short touring boat best for lakes and moving water up to Class II rapids.  Whitewater SOT’s will be too tippy and not track well enough for you to enjoy on lakes, but paddle them anyway — find out for yourself.  You may want to consider a high quality inflatable kayak like AIRE, SOAR, or Northwest River Supplies — packable, durable, responsive, stable as heck.  Good luck.

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Hi my name is Eric, I may be moving to northern Indiana near south bend come beginning of may do to job oppertunity.  Are there any lakes close by besides michigan that contain nice size walleyes.  any names would be greatly appreciated.  also love to bass and fly fish so they would halp also. thank you ERIC

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Hi my name is Eric, I may be moving to northern Indiana near south bend come beginning of may do to job oppertunity.  Are there any lakes close by besides michigan that contain nice size walleyes.  any names would be greatly appreciated.  also love to bass and fly fish so they would halp also. thank you ERIC

Lake Erie is one of the premier walleye lakes in the world and ha a variety of types of angling from drifting to trolling and thelake has several distinct caharachteristics inbthe western basin it is relatively shallow and lots of structure in the central basin it is about 75 foot eeep and in the eastern basin it has holes between 100 foot plus in a few ateas and one spot over 200 feet deep. This promotes 3 distinct fisheries. In April and May head to the Islands by June july and August head farther east. There will still be fish in the Islands but schools of fish tend to move east and eventually sto between Geneva and Conneaut and then begin heading back to the Islands of the western basin. If you need local information or captains email me and I can steer you in the right direction. I know a couple dozen captains that fish in the islands and many more in the central basin. Typically the captains in the islands are tight lipped but the guys in the central basin are pretty open as long as you leave them room to fish. If you need information get it before you leave the dock  or only from peole you trust because there is a lot of misinformation given on the radio. Captain Bryce Seymour http://www.ncweb.com:80/biz/hooker/ New moster websight under construction will be up this spring

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Eric,    I have lived in south bend my whole life and have done alot of fishing there.  Even though I don’t know of any lakes in the area good for walleye I have caught themout of the St. Joe river in S. Bend.  Most of the fishing I have done has been from shore but I do know of spots on the river you can catch them if you have a boat.  If you would like to here tell you more if you would like. Helpin’ you find ‘um, jason – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi my name is Eric, I may be moving to northern Indiana near south bend come beginning of may do to job oppertunity.  Are there any lakes close by besides michigan that contain nice size walleyes.  any names would be greatly appreciated.  also love to bass and fly fish so they would halp also. thank you ERIC Lake Erie is one of the premier walleye lakes in the world and ha a variety of types of angling from drifting to trolling and thelake has several distinct caharachteristics inbthe western basin it is relatively shallow and lots of structure in the central basin it is about 75 foot eeep and in the eastern basin it has holes between 100 foot plus in a few ateas and one spot over 200 feet deep. This promotes 3 distinct fisheries. In April and May head to the Islands by June july and August head farther east. There will still be fish in the Islands but schools of fish tend to move east and eventually sto between Geneva and Conneaut and then begin heading back to the Islands of the western basin. If you need local information or captains email me and I can steer you in the right direction. I know a couple dozen captains that fish in the islands and many more in the central basin. Typically the captains in the islands are tight lipped but the guys in the central basin are pretty open as long as you leave them room to fish. If you need information get it before you leave the dock  or only from peole you trust because there is a lot of misinformation given on the radio. Captain Bryce Seymour http://www.ncweb.com:80/biz/hooker/ New moster websight under construction will be up this spring

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We are headed off to Vermont in a few days to check out the flyfishing scene up there. We’ll be camping in the Rutland area and hitting all the streams around that area. Of course, we’ll also make at least one stop Orvis while we are there. Anybody have anything to share about what streams are good right now? This is going to be my first time ever in the New England area, so it’s all new to me. — Jon Porter http://www.Netwalk.com/~jporter/Backpage.htm

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Jon, You might try the New Haven and Middlebury Rivers in Bristol and Middlebury.  I haven’t been there this year yet, but I understand they are fishing well. George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"

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I was on the Battenkill at the weekend. Water temp was 58-60. Sporadic Hendriksons, no risers though. Might be a bit early yet, but I was talking to the F&W guy and he said there had been feeding fish over the past few days. I think it is worth a shot this weekend. You have to see that hatch in action as those big fly lie thick on the surface of backwaters. Another river worth trying is the Mettawee, about 5 miles west of Manchester. There are public access spots off the highway. This has a nice head of browns, brookies and rainbows. Finally as you head north on route 7, there is Otter Creek paralleling the road most of the way. Again some public access spots, but as this river is heavily stocked expect these points to be busy. Hike up or downstream. Otter Creek has good hatches and holds some beauties (my best is 16" brookie). Sorry I have no up to date stream reports, but I am confident you’ll catch fish assuming the rivers are in good condition. Gary

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We are headed off to Vermont in a few days to check out the flyfishing scene up there. We’ll be camping in the Rutland area and hitting all the streams around that area. Of course, we’ll also make at least one stop Orvis while we are there. Anybody have anything to share about what streams are good right now? This is going to be my first time ever in the New England area, so it’s all new to me. — Jon Porter http://www.Netwalk.com/~jporter/Backpage.htm

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      in general all the streams are down to fishable levels. I should know better than to spout stuff like that.  No sooner had I finished saying this than the skies opened up, the mighty deluge began, and the NWS started issuing flash flood warnings all over the place.  In 12 hours the New Haven River (my home stream) went from its normal 400 cfs to 5500 cfs.  :-( Now it’s back down to about 1400 cfs, but it still looks like chocolate milk. Should be back to normal in a couple days, though. Cheers, — Dave "the jinx" Guertin http://caddis.middlebury.edu/trout/

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    Jon We are headed off to Vermont in a few days to check out the     Jon flyfishing scene up there. We’ll be camping in the Rutland     Jon area and hitting all the streams around that area. Jon, There are a number of streams in the Rutland area worth checking out. I can’t comment on how they’re fishing right now, but in general all the streams are down to fishable levels.  A couple weeks ago when I was last out, the water was clear but still extremely cold and fishing was slow.  By now things should be picking up considerably. The Mettawee is not too far from Rutland, and is usually excellent. Upper Otter Creek is probably worth checking out, too.  Across the mountains, the White and Black Rivers are also close and very good. Check out my Trout Streams of Vermont page (http://caddis.middlebury.edu/trout/) for a guide to all the streams in the area.  Not much in the way of descriptions yet, but there are maps, and it’s nice to see what rivers are where. Cheers, — Dave Guertin http://caddis.middlebury.edu/trout/

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We are headed off to Vermont in a few days to check out the flyfishing scene up there. We’ll be camping in the Rutland area and hitting all the streams around that area. Of course, we’ll also make at least one stop Orvis while we are there. Anybody have anything to share about what streams are good right now? This is going to be my first time ever in the New England area, so it’s all new to me.

Jon, I have read the other posts folks have put up to help you, but I really would suggest streams less well-known.  Two of these are the Furnace Brook and Castleton River.  Both of these smaller streams will most certainly be running clear and fishable.  For the most part, the other streams suggested are running very high and are muddy at best.  There was flooding  in both the CT River Valley and Otter Valley last night.  If you have any specific questions, I would be happy to help. James Ehlers, Editor Vermont Outdoors Magazine 2 Church Street Burlington, VT 05401 (802) 860-0003 Fax: (802) 860-0005 http://www.vermontoutdoors.com

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The ‘Kill was 58-60 this early??? Am I missing something, or is this a little warm for this time of the year? Hopefully we’re not looking at temps like last summer again!!! Alex – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was on the Battenkill at the weekend. Water temp was 58-60. Sporadic Hendriksons, no risers though. Might be a bit early yet, but I was talking to the F&W guy and he said there had been feeding fish over the past few days. I think it is worth a shot this weekend. You have to see that hatch in action as those big fly lie thick on the surface of backwaters. Another river worth trying is the Mettawee, about 5 miles west of Manchester. There are public access spots off the highway. This has a nice head of browns, brookies and rainbows. Finally as you head north on route 7, there is Otter Creek paralleling the road most of the way. Again some public access spots, but as this river is heavily stocked expect these points to be busy. Hike up or downstream. Otter Creek has good hatches and holds some beauties (my best is 16" brookie). Sorry I have no up to date stream reports, but I am confident you’ll catch fish assuming the rivers are in good condition. Gary We are headed off to Vermont in a few days to check out the flyfishing scene up there. We’ll be camping in the Rutland area and hitting all the streams around that area. Of course, we’ll also make at least one stop Orvis while we are there. Anybody have anything to share about what streams are good right now? This is going to be my first time ever in the New England area, so it’s all new to me. — Jon Porter http://www.Netwalk.com/~jporter/Backpage.htm

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Joe, Trout season ends Oct 27.  Caddis pupa and larva are always good choices on VT streams.  It is tough to say what exactly will be coming off that far in advance, especially this year with our water levels very high and temps cool.  Typically, tricos, isonychias and pseudocloeon are hatching during that window.  E -mail closer to your trip for more specific conditions. James Ehlers Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service (#2298) If you would like more info on my service including western style fly fishing drift boat trips, send me your postal address and I’ll send you my brochure. Cheers, James

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I am planning one or two trips to Vermont this fall. I will stay at Sugarbush. My ???? are ….#1 When does the season end? Can I plan a Columbus Day trip. Also,(#2) Has the fall fishing got going by Sept 20- would a late Sept. trip be worth while? #3 Can anybody suggest what flies to use? I am planning to try caddis flies and a variety of terrestials. joe hardman TIA

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I have some St.Croix and other graphite blanks I want to sell. All are brand new and never used. No seconds. E-mail for a list…USA only please. Thank you Tony

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Hi Tony, I’m interested. Please email information. Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products 3020 Secor Ave Bozeman, MT 59715

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: Heard this Napa valley winery is holding a fly fishing school each month : sponsored by some big name equipment manufactuere?  Anybody know anything : about this – good or bad or worthwhile for some from Seattle to fly down : and attend?  I know that they make good wine! — Glen Bolen Assistant Regional Planner The views expressed are my own and do not reflect the opinions of my employer, METRO.

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Read a blurb in USAir Magazine (March ‘95) that Orvis was sponsoring those schools, which are held on the Russian River. Haven’t heard anything about them, but if you’ve got that kind of money to spend, and fly-fishing is your main objective, I think you could get more bang for your buck with private lessons. If you want to drink wine and schmooze with the well-funded dilettantes, the telephone number is 415-392-1600.

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