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To the Group, I am interested in your advice on those fly fishing combos I see in the major catalogs. I am building up bit of a pile in the form of bonus bucks with my credit card and was thinking to treat myself to a nice intermediate level rod/reel combo, but all the different choices are a bit daunting. So, if you had about $200.00 to cash in on a new rod and reel, say 6-8 wt., which make/model would you choose? Thanks, Mike Seeley

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -To the Group, I am interested in your advice on those fly fishing combos I see in the major catalogs. I am building up bit of a pile in the form of bonus bucks with my credit card and was thinking to treat myself to a nice intermediate level rod/reel combo, but all the different choices are a bit daunting. So, if you had about $200.00 to cash in on a new rod and reel, say 6-8 wt., which make/model would you choose? Thanks, Mike Seeley

Check this one out. http://www.ezflyfish.com/ez6wtoutfit.html Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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I will second ezflyfish.com  I brought my wife the 5 wt. trout combo last week.  It is a solid buy for the money and ezflyfish/Wilson Creek Outfitters are a class outfit to do business with. Don – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -To the Group, I am interested in your advice on those fly fishing combos I see in the major catalogs. I am building up bit of a pile in the form of bonus bucks with my credit card and was thinking to treat myself to a nice intermediate level rod/reel combo, but all the different choices are a bit daunting. So, if you had about $200.00 to cash in on a new rod and reel, say 6-8 wt., which make/model would you choose? Thanks, Mike Seeley

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Thaks for the tip. Mike

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I’m considering purchasing a sit-on-top kayak for flyfishing the flats and marshes on the Texas Coast.  The model I’ve been lusting after is the Ocean Kayak Frenzy.  Does anybody have any input re: fishing from these kayaks, or any type of kayak?  

I have a Wilderness System’s Ride and it’s great to fish from. I don’t think I could tip it over if I wanted to. — Charlie…

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My experience with SOT’s is that they are wet and you need to wear neoprene on cool days. I have fished from my Folbot double kayak with OK results. Too bad inflatables are deflatables. I am now looking at the Kiwi Lobo and the Poke Boat.  Duck hunters like the Poke, so it is probably the most commodious.  However, the Lobo is supposed to be way nicer to paddle. Ken (to reply via email remove "zz" from address)

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I recently purchased a Cobra Explorer Sit on Top.  These sit on tops are great and I already been doing very well both in salt and fresh water with it.   Damian NuWave Tackle Innovative products designed by fishermen for fishermen Fly Tying / Rod Building Equipment, Tackle… http://www.nuwavetackle.com/

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I’ve been using a Prism by Perception for about four months now and am pleased with the overall performance. It tracks well,is quiet, and quick. Did an overnighter float from below Austin, Texas to Bastrop and was pleasantly surprised by just how many unnecessary items I could fit into the two large hatches. …downsides: The bottom of the boat where your feet rest always has water in it. easily two inches of water. Can’t stand up on it. If you have decent balance, you can stand up to cast with a Malibu 2, but try paddling one of those tankers. I’ve also seen the front end dip under water when paddling with and riding some small waves kicked up by the wind. and this is on a lake, no telling how it would do in surf.   Casting sitting down is not a problem, I just can’t cast as far. It’s fun to fish from  and( a decent sized fish will drag you around), to me, the space in the hatches outweighs the water at my feet. I’ve taken to placing a couple of those car-top foam blocks under the footpegs… keeps the feet dry. Good luck, PZ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m considering purchasing a sit-on-top kayak for flyfishing the flats and marshes on the Texas Coast.  The model I’ve been lusting after is the Ocean Kayak Frenzy.  Does anybody have any input re: fishing from these kayaks, or any type of kayak?  Has anybody tried casting from these kayaks? The Frenzy is appealing to me because (1) it is relatively inexpensive ($400); (2) it looks quite versatile (can be used in whitewater and the surf as well); and (3) it appears to be easily transported. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, RD

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m considering purchasing a sit-on-top kayak for flyfishing the flats and marshes on the Texas Coast.  The model I’ve been lusting after is the Ocean Kayak Frenzy.  Does anybody have any input re: fishing from these kayaks, or any type of kayak?  Has anybody tried casting from these kayaks? The Frenzy is appealing to me because (1) it is relatively inexpensive ($400); (2) it looks quite versatile (can be used in whitewater and the surf as well); and (3) it appears to be easily transported. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, RD

Talking it over with the SO (she says the only real advantage to the Frenzy is smaller females can rack it easily, but I agree it is more river-friendly, FWIW) and another kayaking friend, we agree with your points 1, 2, and 3, but have you looked at the O.K. Scrambler?  A little bigger, more stable – done the Yucatan, Alaska, Keys, Texas Coast, etc. on one, you can even easily dive from one – but again, not quite as easy handling on a river.  Have you talked to Southwest Paddle Sports?  They have a website I think.  Talk to Patty and tell her Eliz and the gang from Ft. Worth set ya.   HTH? TC, R

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I’m considering purchasing a sit-on-top kayak for flyfishing the flats and marshes on the Texas Coast.  The model I’ve been lusting after is the Ocean Kayak Frenzy.  Does anybody have any input re: fishing from these kayaks, or any type of kayak?  Has anybody tried casting from these kayaks? The Frenzy is appealing to me because (1) it is relatively inexpensive ($400); (2) it looks quite versatile (can be used in whitewater and the surf as well); and (3) it appears to be easily transported. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, RD

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Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

I know nothing of kayaks but so long as you’re soliciting feedback please allow me to congratulate you on one of your quips that has long been one of my favorite quotes: When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.                                   -Raoul Duke- — Ken Fortenberry

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sitting in (a kayak not music) has to be more stable (secure not horse) than sitting on top ( boats not se…..never mind) john (I’m fishin out of a keowee) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m considering purchasing a sit-on-top kayak for flyfishing the flats and marshes on the Texas Coast.  The model I’ve been lusting after is the Ocean Kayak Frenzy.  Does anybody have any input re: fishing from these kayaks, or any type of kayak?  Has anybody tried casting from these kayaks? The Frenzy is appealing to me because (1) it is relatively inexpensive ($400); (2) it looks quite versatile (can be used in whitewater and the surf as well); and (3) it appears to be easily transported. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, RD

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Joe Fleischman sent it.  Joe sent the Fall Ball a little CARE package for the raffle.   I hope I get the "trio", and I will do my best to make sure the other one goes to the "appropriate" Clavester.  This is gonna be hysterical.   Thanks, Joe. Ya know, it just dawned on me, Joe:  I bet he *likes* it!! BWWWaaaaaahahahahahaha Dave L.

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Joe Fleischman sent it.  Joe sent the Fall Ball a little CARE package for the raffle.   I hope I get the "trio", and I will do my best to make sure the other one goes to the "appropriate" Clavester.  This is gonna be hysterical.   Thanks, Joe. Ya know, it just dawned on me, Joe:  I bet he *likes* it!! BWWWaaaaaahahahahahaha

Now that you posted it, it’s too late to make it a "duet".  <g   And I want pictures. TL, Joe

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Is there a pool for how many inches of rain will fall in the Smokies next week? — Charlie…

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Joe F: <<Now that you posted it, it’s too late to make it a "duet".  <g   And I want pictures. Shhhhhhhoooot!  Duet!  Why didn’t *I* think of that. Devious Dave

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Charlie Choc: <<Is there a pool for how many inches of rain will fall in the Smokies next week? No, but I will take the number 9. Dave

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Charlie Choc: <<Is there a pool for how many inches of rain will fall in the Smokies next week? No, but I will take the number 9.

I was going to pick 4 (for Forty<g). As long as there’s no lightning either Thursday or Friday so I can get across the lake to Hazel I’ll be happy. — Charlie…

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Can I get in on the Raffle, as a non attendee Tim Apple — The fishing is always good, It’s the catching that’s sometimes bad"

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Joe Fleischman sent it.  Joe sent the Fall Ball a little CARE package for the raffle.   I hope I get the "trio", and I will do my best to make sure the other one goes to the "appropriate" Clavester.  This is gonna be hysterical.   Thanks, Joe. Ya know, it just dawned on me, Joe:  I bet he *likes* it!! BWWWaaaaaahahahahahaha Dave L.

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How about if I donate a 55 gallon drum of scrap Bamboo to the Clave’s raffle?  I’m sure daytripper and lacourse would be the highest bidders. ; )  gol   (giggling out loud) basb (blowing a snot bubble)  gmak! (give me a kleenex!) : )))))))))))))   dme  (dabbing my eyes) Mr. G.

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How about if I donate a 55 gallon drum of scrap Bamboo to the Clave’s raffle?  I’m sure daytripper and lacourse would be the highest bidders. ; )  gol   (giggling out loud) basb (blowing a snot bubble)  gmak! (give me a kleenex!) : )))))))))))))   dme  (dabbing my eyes) Mr. G.

no need to donate george, thar will be plenty of scrap bamboo present waldo — Ezflyfish.com http://www.ezflyfish.com BRBG http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112  Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gehrke writes: <<How about if I donate a 55 gallon drum of scrap Bamboo to the Clave’s raffle?  I’m sure daytripper and lacourse would be the highest bidders. You wouldn’t want to do that, George.  What the hell would you make your  bamboo rods out of.  I’ve seen a couple of them — they looked like they were made from scrap bamboo.  d;0)   Remember, George, you should not re-use numbers 6, 11, and 12.  Those were terrible.  Plus the others that have been returned.  What was your failure rate, George — 20%?     I sure am glad you aren’t building airplanes, George.   d;0)  ( < my hat on backwards, George.)  LOL LaCourse

LaCourse.  They would just prove how , biased, unthinking, wrong opinionated, ex-Navy, burnt out old foggie you really are. Those fly rods were beautiful   fly rods.  Just because you say they weren’t doesn’t make it so pal.  So go make a monkey out of yourself somewhere else.  I’m not your piece of meat.  I don’t think you will ever change, no matter what proof might reveal itself one day regarding your exaggerations.   Get a life LaCourse. Mr. G. http://www.gink.com/chat

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I have some of Mike’s Flies and they are the finest I have ever seen.  The person who gets them will have flies tied by a real master. Ernie Harrison See Ernie’s Fly-Fishing Stuff:   http://home.pacbell.net/ernie2

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Yet another truck stopped at my residence — this one a little white and blue one, stamped with U.S. Mail. There is going to be one joyful roffer at the Fall Ball.  Mike Connor’s package arrived safely.  It is a fly box with seventy (70!) flies.  I haven’t opened it – it has shrink-wrap-like material around it -, but I can see what looks like some Partridge and Orange and either a  Roayal Coachman or Royal Wulff.  Whoever wins this also gets a letter from Mike, with an appropriate poem, and it *is* suitable for framing. Mike has out-done himself again.  He is doing well and gives his warm regards to all of us. Dave L.

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Mike has out-done himself again.  He is doing well and gives his warm regards to all of us.

That sure beats the hell out of what I sent you.  :-)   Make sure my name is in the hat for that one! TL, Joe

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Yet another truck stopped at my residence — this one a little white and blue one, stamped with U.S. Mail.   There is going to be one joyful roffer at the Fall Ball.  Mike Connor’s package arrived safely.  It is a fly box with seventy (70!) flies.  I haven’t opened it – it has shrink-wrap-like material around it -, but I can see what looks like some Partridge and Orange and either a  Roayal Coachman or Royal Wulff.  Whoever wins this also gets a letter from Mike, with an appropriate poem, and it *is* suitable for framing. Mike has out-done himself again.  He is doing well and gives his warm regards to all of us. Dave L.

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Ernie Harrison: Ernie, I can’t filter anyone out.  My isp will allow it and provides for it, but *I* won’t do it.  I’ve never turned my back on anything, and I won’t now.  If George lies, I will reply.  If he shuts up, so will I.  I have asked him to take it to e-mail, but he will not. Believe me, I am not answering most of his posts.  Be well….. Dave L.

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George: <<No thank you LaCourse.  I would receive the same thing I did last year. nothing. That’s because you didn’t want it.  Waldo still has it.  He could easily send it to you.  Why don’t you ask him to?  d;0) LaCourse

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George: pieces.  You make much to do about nothing, as usual daytripper.  You really need to relax a little more. George, we were at peace.  Everything was going well, and then you start another fight.  When Tripper and I respond, you become incensed.  Change your underwear, Georgie.  I am sure the purple stains from eating so many sour grapes are now visible. LaCourse

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hold on now, ya’ll…us southern folks are quite fond of bamboo tomato stakes, and i’d be happy to receive the scrap bamboo.  BTW, i’m quite happy with my Happy Hooker Bastard rod, with whatever defects or flaws it might have…and, i’m planning on using it on Hazel Creek, and maybe even for whippin one of those damn horse’s into shape for the ride up the road to nowhere… jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – How about if I donate a 55 gallon drum of scrap Bamboo to the Clave’s raffle?  I’m sure daytripper and lacourse would be the highest bidders. You’re probably right: neither Dave nor I would bid one red cent, while others would be ASKING for money to toss the works in the dumpster… /daytripper

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Dave,    What you say is true,  but when you respond to his crap it comes through my filter and then I have a choice of filtering the subject or your name, neither of which I want to do.  I already have so many subjects filtered out my hard drive is filling up.  Why not just filter him out and we can both have some peace. Ernie Harrison See Ernie’s Fly-Fishing Stuff:   http://home.pacbell.net/ernie2

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -George: pieces.  You make much to do about nothing, as usual daytripper.  You really need to relax a little more. George, we were at peace.  Everything was going well, and then you start another fight.  When Tripper and I respond, you become incensed.  Change your underwear, Georgie.  I am sure the purple stains from eating so many sour grapes are now visible. LaCourse

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Forgetfull Tim Apple writes:

<<Can I get in on the Raffle, as a non attendee <g  You already are, Tim.  d;0) Dave

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Gehrke writes:

<<How about if I donate a 55 gallon drum of scrap Bamboo to the Clave’s raffle?  I’m sure daytripper and lacourse would be the highest bidders. You wouldn’t want to do that, George.  What the hell would you make your  bamboo rods out of.  I’ve seen a couple of them — they looked like they were made from scrap bamboo.  d;0)   Remember, George, you should not re-use numbers 6, 11, and 12.  Those were terrible.  Plus the others that have been returned.  What was your failure rate, George — 20%?     I sure am glad you aren’t building airplanes, George.   d;0)  ( < my hat on backwards, George.)  LOL LaCourse

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Oh, forgot to add, George: It is a free raffle, no bidding.  Just a bunch of guys who wanna get together and fish and have a good time.  We all bring a little something and throw it in the pot and then Waldo draws names out of a hat.  We had a blast last May — oh, that’s right, you weren’t there, were you?  Hey, but you did win something in the "non- attendee" raffle.  You want I should add your name again this year, George.   d;0) LaCourse

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no need to donate george, thar will be plenty of scrap bamboo present waldo

; )

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How about if I donate a 55 gallon drum of scrap Bamboo to the Clave’s raffle?  I’m sure daytripper and lacourse would be the highest bidders.

You’re probably right: neither Dave nor I would bid one red cent, while others would be ASKING for money to toss the works in the dumpster… /daytripper

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How about if I donate a 55 gallon drum of scrap Bamboo to the Clave’s raffle?  I’m sure daytripper and lacourse would be the highest bidders. You’re probably right: neither Dave nor I would bid one red cent, while others would be ASKING for money to toss the works in the dumpster… /daytripper

pieces.  You make much to do about nothing, as usual daytripper.  You really need to relax a little more. Mr. G.

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Oh, forgot to add, George: It is a free raffle, no bidding.  Just a bunch of guys who wanna get together and fish and have a good time.  We all bring a little something and throw it in the pot and then Waldo draws names out of a hat.  We had a blast last May — oh, that’s right, you weren’t there, were you?  Hey, but you did win something in the "non- attendee" raffle.  You want I should add your name again this year, George.   d;0) LaCourse

_______  No thank you LaCourse.  I would receive the same thing I did last year. nothing. Mr.G.

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Hi Folks: The following conditions prevail in the Lamoille and Winooski Watersheds in the Greater Burlington and Stowe Regions:  Water temps are in the mid to high 60’s. Perfect I would say.  Water levels are low and clear. Bright days and cold nights have made fishing very enjoyable with the greatest activity focused on the early morning and late evening hours. Sulphurs, little yellow stones and numerous tan, black and olive caddis have been in sufficient numbers to get the trout’s attention. Cream variants have been less predictable but no less exciting.  Small beadheads of any design have been producing in the riffles mid-day.  More cool clear weather is forecasted to the weekend with a chance for boomers on Saturday and Sunday.  Great summer fishing right now.  Enjoy.  As always you are welcome to email me with specific questions.  Good fishing. And oh yeah….for the hardy souls the hex hactch is still on at select Kingdom lakes.  "You don’t know unless you go". James Ehlers Underhill, Vermont Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service Vermont Fly Fishing, Hunting, River and Woodland Outings http://pobox.com/~uncle

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Hi Folks, Beautiful weather here in Northern Vermont…daytime temps in the 70’s and nights in the low 50’s and high 40’s.  For the Winooski and Lamoille Watersheds in the greater Burlington and Stowe areas here are the river conditions: Super Fishing! Tricos are here…size 22 and 24, and 7X tippet and hold on.  Sulphurs, Blue Quill, Isonychia, and Potamanthus are here and there.  Elk Hair Caddis as always. Water temps are low 70’s and high 60’s.  Water is low and clear as a bell. Enjoy. Always happy to answer your questions. James Ehlers Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service Vermont Fly Fishing, Hunting, River and Woodland Outings http://pobox.com/~uncle

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I am planning a trip to Prince of Wales Island, Alaska, in mid May.  I plan on fly fishing the streams of the island.  Hopefully there will still be some spring steelheads around, but if not, I will go after Cut-throats and Dolly Varden. Has anyone ever fished there?  Any suggestions on specific rivers? Specific flies? Also, is there any saltwater fly fishing available in the area? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Frank Perkins Melbourne, FL

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Rich Culver is the only flyfishing guide I know of in that area, and he pretty much knows it all–an osprey of a man.  He can set you up for fly outs from Juneau or Gustavus, at the Galcier Bay Country Inn, where they treated my one-year-old daughter like Princess Di.  Rich also runs some spectacular trips along the coast from a big  "mothership," where I ate king crab until my arms drooped, and from which you can drop Zodiaks in 90 seconds.   Silvers, steelhead, dollies, et al. Even if you’re not interested in a guide, e-mail him for info, and to tell him he should pay me for posts like this one. Rich Culver Flywater Adventures 907/789-2102 Glacier Bay Country Inn www.glacierbayalaska.com 800/ 628-09812

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Rich Culver is the only flyfishing guide I know of in that area, and he pretty much knows it all–an osprey of a man.  He can set you up for fly outs from Juneau or Gustavus, at the Galcier Bay Country Inn, where they treated my one-year-old daughter like Princess Di.  Rich also runs some spectacular trips along the coast from a big  "mothership," where I ate king crab until my arms drooped, and from which you can drop Zodiaks in 90 seconds.   Silvers, steelhead, dollies, et al. Even if you’re not interested in a guide, e-mail him for info, and to tell him he should pay me for posts like this one. Rich Culver Flywater Adventures 907/789-2102 Glacier Bay Country Inn www.glacierbayalaska.com 800/ 628-09812

While I recieved my information second hand (From Clients who have fished with Mr. Culver and Myself) I too have heard good things about this operation. Paul Hansen Alaska Rainbow Adventures http://www.akrainbow.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What bait should I use to catch rainbow trout in smaller rivers??? What test line would be a good choice to use for rainbow trout??? When I was in college at Westrern Carolina University at Cullowhee, NC we used to get a can of whole kernel corn.  Hook a kernel of corn on a #6 hook, and use 10 pound test line with one small buck shot sinker.   Don’t laugh; it works. — _____ *                    The Cantrells’                   * *       http://locals.onslowonline.net/~cantrell/     * *                  FAX:  910-938-7272                 * *                Coastal North Carolina               * *                        Zone 8                       *  

I do fishing in northern California in a place called Trinity Alps.  This place has nothing but streams and small rivers. I’ve always had luck using, as you mentioned, 10 pound test, #6 hook, but follow it up with a six foot leader, a small bobber, and a salmon egg.   Cast up stream and watch your bobber flow down stream, as it goes with the current, the egg takes a natral path.  The great part is, as the bobber flows past you, you can see when the fish hit on your bait by the bobber going down.  I like this kind of fishing because your not just sitting on your bum, you can walk up or down the river or stream for fish.

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What bait should I use to catch rainbow trout in smaller rivers??? What test line would be a good choice to use for rainbow trout???

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What bait should I use to catch rainbow trout in smaller rivers??? What test line would be a good choice to use for rainbow trout???

Depends on where you’re fishing, what their natural food base might be, what time of year and what size fish you’re pursuing. As far as live bait is concerned, I’ve caught rainbows in small rivers, on garden worms., meal worms, crickets, live salamander, salmon eggs, and the largest fish almost always on live shiners (minnows). Test line again kind of depends. For most rainbows stockie size and up you can go 2# 4# 6# depending how much excitement you want. If you’re going for real monsters, I guess you could go 8# and up. Since you can handle most rainbows within a reasonable size with the lighter lines, I think the more important factor to take into account is which line works best with your setup. Ken.H

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What bait should I use to catch rainbow trout in smaller rivers??? What test line would be a good choice to use for rainbow trout???

When I was in college at Westrern Carolina University at Cullowhee, NC we used to get a can of whole kernel corn.  Hook a kernel of corn on a #6 hook, and use 10 pound test line with one small buck shot sinker.   Don’t laugh; it works. — _____ *                    The Cantrells’                   * *       http://locals.onslowonline.net/~cantrell/     * *                  FAX:  910-938-7272                 * *                Coastal North Carolina               * *                        Zone 8                       *  

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try red worms they work every where i have fished in western part of new york state.i am using 8lb.trilene.fished close to the bottom in slow moving pools.use spitshot to control depth.

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try red worms they work every where i have fished in western part of new york state.i am using 8lb.trilene.fished close to the bottom in slow – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -What bait should I use to catch rainbow trout in smaller rivers??? What test line would be a good choice to use for rainbow trout???

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says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What bait should I use to catch rainbow trout in smaller rivers??? What test line would be a good choice to use for rainbow trout??? When I was in college at Westrern Carolina University at Cullowhee, NC we used to get a can of whole kernel corn.  Hook a kernel of corn on a #6 hook, and use 10 pound test line with one small buck shot sinker.   Don’t laugh; it works. — _____ *                    The Cantrells’                   * *       http://locals.onslowonline.net/~cantrell/     * *                  FAX:  910-938-7272                 * *                Coastal North Carolina               * *                        Zone 8                       *   In my neibourhood of Ontario we use Salmon eggs tied in a nylon sac fished

under a Blackbird float(pencil float if you can’t find them) My preferred way is to fly-fish using yarn flies and nymphs. Generally, use the lightest line possible for the water conditions. If the fish shy away from 10 pound test, go lighter until they don’t get spooked. I’ve had to go as light as 3.5 pound test in super clear,low water. good luck  Andy

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Hello everyone!  I am looking for fishing listservers.  I know of the flyfishing listserver in kentucky, are there any others?  Thanks a bunch. Tight Lines, George — *George M. Chan                 * "New York City has no power,       * *                               *  ’cuz I stay away from dairy."     * *                               *                      -Phoebe       *

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Hello everyone!  I am looking for fishing listservers.  I know of the flyfishing listserver in kentucky, are there any others?  Thanks a bunch. Tight Lines, George

George, Noticed the following listservers on rec.hunting……. **If you are a flyfisher, have a look on the following: **or **The first list gives you a lot of traffic while the latter is a bit **less active. Hope this helps Alex * Spinner of the WWWeb Page at                                      * *            http://www.well.com/www/amv/amv.htm                    *

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 I may be relocating to the Richmond, Virginia area soon and would appreciate any information ya’ll may have regarding FF Clubs / Organizations there.    This is an exciting possibility for me as I’ve never been east of my Texas Gulf coastline. I trust and hope the ethics & traditions of brother anglers are alive and well in the fine Eastern areas of the United States! Once again, any information is highly appreciated. Thanks Ya’ll. TEM

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The Virginia Capital Chapter of Trout Unlimited meets on the 4th tuesday of the month at 7:30 pm at the Central Fidelity Bank north of McRea Rd in Bon Air, VA.  It’s just off Huguenot Rd across from Stony Pt. Plaza.

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TEM If you like smallmouth fishing the James River is one of the best in the South and I’m sure you will find the ladies and gentlemen the same as where you came from. Welcome to the Southeast. Richard Warren Raleigh, NC

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Welcome to Virginia.  We are a Flyfishing Guide and Instruction Service company named….. Flyfishing Virginia, L.L.C.  We post a weekly (well almost) column entitled, "This Week Flyfishing Virginia" where we post the results of all of our guides for the past week.  What’s hot and what’s not.  Stay tuned.  Again, Welcome to a state where you can flyfish 12 months of the years.  Bob Crawshaw and Ron Bennett,  Flyfishing Virginia L.L.C.  804-467-6668

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I am looking into getting a new net. I want something durable and easy on the fish.  I only catch and release.  I have seen some long narrow nets that have shallow bags.  These were listed as C&R nets but I thought the lack of depth might make it difficult to control a large fish when removing the hook. I am not interested in looks, just reliability. any ideas/comments? Thanks John Lokanis

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I am looking into getting a new net. I want something durable and easy on the fish.  I only catch and release.  I have seen some long narrow nets that have shallow bags.  These were listed as C&R nets but I thought the lack of depth might make it difficult to control a large fish when removing the hook. I am not interested in looks, just reliability.

Those "C&R" nets are certainly the rage these days. They’re design is the polar opposite of the typical trout net with a bag that’s so deep you could hide Jimmy Hoffa in it. Given the choice of a conventional net with a deep bag, a conventional net with a shallow bag (which I have), or the narrow C&R net, I’d definitely go the the C&R net. I hope to find the time n this lifetime to build one of those myself ;^) If it’s large fish you’re worried about, the purpose of the long narrow hoop is to avoid folding the fish on itself – which can harm the fish and make the release a bity futile. There is just enough depth to the net to contain the fish while you quickly remove your barbless hook, and in most cases a large fish will remain fairly docile once it’s layed out on the netting (I’ve found the smaller fish will be the more wriggly)… <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp.    Alpha Server Engineering  < <           "Read this and nobody gets hurt"           < <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am looking into getting a new net. I want something durable and easy on the fish.  I only catch and release.  I have seen some long narrow nets that have shallow bags.  These were listed as C&R nets but I thought the lack of depth might make it difficult to control a large fish when removing the hook. I am not interested in looks, just reliability. any ideas/comments? Thanks John Lokanis

John, L.L. Bean sells one ($50) having the following dimensions:  Net — 16" long, 7" wide, 6 1/2" deep; 23" long overall. Orvis also sells the Rocky Mountain Stretch and Release ($69) with the following dimensions:  Net — 15" long, 10" wide, 18" deep; 22" long overall.  This is probably more your speed. Best regards, Jim Davis Philadelphia, PA Temple University

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am looking into getting a new net. I want something durable and easy on the fish.  I only catch and release.  I have seen some long narrow nets that have shallow bags.  These were listed as C&R nets but I thought the lack of depth might make it difficult to control a large fish when removing the hook. I am not interested in looks, just reliability. any ideas/comments? Thanks John Lokanis John, L.L. Bean sells one ($50) having the following dimensions:  Net — 16" long, 7" wide, 6 1/2" deep; 23" long overall. Orvis also sells the Rocky Mountain Stretch and Release ($69) with the following dimensions:  Net — 15" long, 10" wide, 18" deep; 22" long overall.  This is probably more your speed. Best regards, Jim Davis Philadelphia, PA Temple University

I just got an LL Bean C&R the other day.  Nice net, but just a little large.  But, I still like it anyway.  Good quality wood too.  Keep away from those cheap imported ones ($20 or less).  I got one and it was crap!  The screw eye in the handle stripped out the third time I grabbed for it.  I bought a good net basket and replaced the cheap one it came with, put a bigger screw eye in the handle, and gave it to my 7 year old for her first net (she’ll never know).  :-) Steve   A sunny day,      a box of midges,         and a wandering stream…   Man, this MUST be heaven!   <    Steve Kulpa    <<

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I am looking into getting a new net.

I’m courious why you need a net at all.  I have been fly fishing for five years and have caught every thing from redfish in the Gulf of Mexico to salmon in British Columbia and have never needed a net (except when fishing for Spring Salmon).  If a fish is played correctly, and handled with a little care your god given hands should be good enough.  Instead, why not check out some of the new gloves that are available for handling fish.  They help avoid damage to the fish’s layer of protective slime. Just my $.02

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I have a C&R net, and I have securely landed trout up to 22" in the mesh bag. If you are worried about losing fish when removing hooks, don’t be.   The finer mesh helps keep the protective slime on the fish and the shallower bag prevents the fish from "bending," a major cause of injury.

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I am looking into getting a new net. I want something durable and easy on the fish.  I only catch and release.  I have seen some long narrow nets that have shallow bags.  These were listed as C&R nets but I thought the lack of depth might make it difficult to control a large fish when removing the hook. I am not interested in looks, just reliability. any ideas/comments? Thanks

I’ve heard good things about Bridgeport Landing Net Company. They are in Portland OR. I don’t have a net, but will soon, and from wh= at I can tell they seem to be a good deal for the money. Michael Paine – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -John Lokanis

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Hi Michael, I’m struggling with my newsreader, so I’m not sure if this response will get posted to the newsgroup, but here goes.  If my previous one got posted, please ignore… I see some of the other responses suggested various models, but for me, I really advise using the hand. Although it takes some getting used to, rolling the trout on it’s back usually quites them down – or – holding them upright with gentle pressure applied just forward of the ventral fins will also.   Compared to the struggle of getting teeth, gills, and hook untangled from the net always seems more traumatic and time consuming to me.  Bag the net – they’re more bother than they are worth, and bringing to hand is more satisfying.  Besides, the trout I’m into won’t fit into any net small enough to carry

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I am looking into getting a new net. I want something durable and easy on the fish.  I only catch and release.  I have seen some long narrow nets that have shallow bags.  These were listed as C&R nets but I thought the lack of depth might make it difficult to control a large fish when removing the hook. I am not interested in looks, just reliability. any ideas/comments? Thanks

I just bought the Orvis Stretch and Release net. I’ve landed about a dozen fish over 17 inches with it, with no problems. It is without a doubt the best net I’ve ever owned, I would highly recommend it. Also take a look at their magnetic net attachment gizmo, I love that thing.

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Given the choice of a conventional net with a deep bag, a conventional net with a shallow bag (which I have), or the narrow C&R net, I’d definitely go the the C&R net. I hope to find the time n this lifetime to build one of those myself ;^)

I presume you will make one from a kit. Where can you buy a kit for a net? Richard Warren Raleigh, NC

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TO:   hi there      re: your  net inquiry…I know it’s the fashion to bash Orvis products these days, but I am going to go out on a limb here and recommend the Orvis "Catch and Release" net. I have had one two years and they are very easy on the fish. The mesh is soft and tightly woven. Yes they are shallow, but if you buy the large one, I doubt you will stick many trout that you cant handle with it. Three weeks ago I caught 4 trout between 20 and 21 inches on the Bighorn R. and had no problem handling the fish. A year ago I caught my largest fish ever on a fly..a bruiser brown 26"..in North Carolina of all places. I landed him with this same net and was able to control him and gently release him with no harm done. I am not an Orvis junkie, but this is the best net I’ve ever owned.  I fish alot, and in two years the net, including the mesh, is still in fine shape. My only hope is that someday soon you catch a trout that really is too big for this net to handle! Dale Owens

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  My hatch charts list a Cadis fly called Grannom of which I cant   recall seeing so: Can someone tell me the color this flys body?   regards

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:   My hatch charts list a Cadis fly called Grannom of which I cant :   recall seeing so: Can someone tell me the color this flys body? :   regards I have seen the Grannom advertised as the Brachycentrus caddis, the color of which I know not.  Perhaps an entomologist can now help.                                 -jamie

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  My hatch charts list a Cadis fly called Grannom of which I cant   recall seeing so: Can someone tell me the color this flys body?

"Grannom" is the common name in Great Britain for the caddisfly _Brachycentrus subnubilus_.  The term has also been applied to _Brachycentrus_ species in North America.  The flies are dark, and dark brown for the body color is as good a guess as any.  But when selecting flies, you will do better to observe the insects on the stream you’re fishing, rather than depending on the hatch chart.  Knowing the name that people gave to the fly is not the same as knowing the fly. Woods Hole, MA   USA

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Olive green body.  Slate/tan wings. That’s the coloration for Brachycentrus numerosus in east. Also known as the Shad fly. Size 16. Tight lines! Steve Glad

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