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It’s not broken. It must be flaky because it worked for half of them. Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When I should have been working on my spelling I was tying leaders We know, Paul. Your "c" key is broken. Happens to everyone eventually. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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rw,    I hate moss on my leader also, that is one of the reasons I use a Leader Link instead of a loop to attach the leader to the line.  The Blood Knot Machine ties tight knots and the ends can be clipped very close which eliminates most moss catching.  The moss that does cling comes off each time you cast. Ernie "rw" wrote – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I don’t like hand-tied leader with lots of knots. The knots snag on weeds and other debris. Sorry, Ernie.

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When I should have been working on my spelling I was tying leaders

We know, Paul. Your "c" key is broken. Happens to everyone eventually. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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I don’t like hand-tied leader with lots of knots. The knots snag on weeds and other debris. Sorry, Ernie. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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I tie all my own leaders and the only advice I can give you is pratice, pratice, pratice.

LOL! You go, Paul ;^) /daytripper (I blame myself for never making you spell things correctly…)

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When I should have been working on my spelling I was tying leaders

I tie all my own leaders and the only advice I can give you is pratice, pratice, pratice. LOL! You go, Paul ;^) /daytripper (I blame myself for never making you spell things

correctly…)

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B. Watkins See http://home.earthlink.net/~eharrison241 click on Leader Logic Ernie

Ernie How do you pull the bloodknots tight?  I always seem to end up overheating and pinching the leader no matter how much lube (spit) or how gently I pull.  Must be doing something wrong. Peter

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I tie all my own leaders and the only advice I can give you is pratice, pratice, pratice. I tie them by hand (ie. no tools other than nippers to trim the tags) and I allow 2" of line for the knot and tag and I end up +/- 1/4" for segment length. Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I constructed a hand-made leader, following the guidelines in the Orvis Fly-Fishing Book.  I tied the knots as instructed.  It was quite clunky. Do many of you out there construct your own leaders?  Any tips for a smoother hand-constructed leader and tippet would be appreciated.

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What do you mean by clunky?  Did you try to fish with it?  What knots do they use in that book and how many turns? I constructed a hand-made leader, following the guidelines in the Orvis Fly-Fishing Book.  I tied the knots as instructed.  It was quite clunky. Do many of you out there construct your own leaders?  Any tips for a smoother hand-constructed leader and tippet would be appreciated.

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I constructed a hand-made leader, following the guidelines in the Orvis Fly-Fishing Book.  I tied the knots as instructed.  It was quite clunky. Do many of you out there construct your own leaders?  Any tips for a smoother hand-constructed leader and tippet would be appreciated.

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B. Watkins See http://home.earthlink.net/~eharrison241 click on Leader Logic Ernie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I constructed a hand-made leader, following the guidelines in the Orvis Fly-Fishing Book.  I tied the knots as instructed.  It was quite clunky. Do many of you out there construct your own leaders?  Any tips for a smoother hand-constructed leader and tippet would be appreciated.

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Hi, I need some help by experienced fly fishers and I think this is the right place. I live in the eastern italian Alps and am looking for a good way to catch the european whitefish, as they say it swims somewhere here. The matter is: I don’t simply know how to catch it. I thought "why not a fly?", yeah, but which fly? Then I am running into fantasy. I’m sure someone out there has experience on the matter. Thanks in advance, Bepo

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Bepo I need some help by experienced fly fishers and I think this is Bepo the right place. I live in the eastern italian Alps and am Bepo looking for a good way to catch the european whitefish, as they Bepo say it swims somewhere here. The matter is: I don’t simply know Bepo how to catch it. I thought "why not a fly?", yeah, but which Bepo fly? Then I am running into fantasy. I’m sure someone out there Bepo has experience on the matter. I’m no expert (well that’s a start for an advice ), but the Swedish fly Superpuppan was originally developed for whitefish fishing, although not in your waters. You might still want to check it out and try it in your local caddis colors: http://www.virtualflybox.com/f0100/f0173.html Note that the hackle is cut off from over and below the hook shank. Also, use a high-quality hackle so that the fly hangs in the surface. — Jarmo Hurri address or apply rot13 to header email address.

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Hi, I need some help by experienced fly fishers and I think this is the right place. I live in the eastern italian Alps and am looking for a good way to catch the european whitefish, as they say it swims somewhere here. The matter is: I don’t simply know how to catch it. I thought "why not a fly?", yeah, but which fly? Then I am running into fantasy. I’m sure someone out there has experience on the matter. Thanks in advance, Bepo

I have twice fished for this fish ( Coregonus laveratus), in some large German lakes.  On both occasions, I was with an experienced local fisherman in a boat and equipment known as a "hegene" was used.  This is basically a special paternoster system for jigging, using ( five) nymphs as droppers. Mostly it is used by professional fishermen. The only information I can offer you is in German.  Here is a picture of the equipment used; http://www.hegenenfischen.de/Hegene/Bild_Hegene/bild_hegene.html Normally a very sensitive fly rod is used, and a centrepin reel.  Here are some pictures; http://www.angelprofi.at/Die%20Renke.htm#Die%20Hegene Renke ( whitefish) are considered a great delicacy, especially smoked, but are more or less useless as sport fish.  I assume you wish to catch them to eat? It is also apparently possible to catch them using "normal" jigging equipment and small slim jigs.  In many places they are also fished for using natural bait ( mainly minnows) also usually on paternoster systems. TL MC

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"Mike" shared a nice experience fishing for Whitefish. I have twice fished for this fish (Coregonus laveratus), in some large German lakes. <Snipped, great information Up here in the Pacific Northwest we have The mountain whitefish (Prosopium williamsoni) and on at least two trout rivers, the Deschutes and the Crooked River in Oregon, whitefish have considerably larger populations than trout.  The population estimate for the mainstream Deschutes River is 5,000 whitefish per mile. Since I release just about everything I catch these days, I think they are a nice addition to most of the fisheries around here.  They seem to take the same patterns as the trout and I have heard of some patterns tied just for the whitefish, although I have never seen one and I can’t seem to find one on the web today. Chris Fanning

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 Up here in the Pacific Northwest we have The mountain whitefish (Prosopium williamsoni) and on at least two trout rivers, the Deschutes and the Crooked River in Oregon, whitefish have considerably larger populations than trout.  The population estimate for the mainstream Deschutes River is 5,000 whitefish per mile. Since I release just about everything I catch these days, I think they are a nice addition to most of the fisheries around here.  They seem to take the same patterns as the trout and I have heard of some patterns tied just for the whitefish, although I have never seen one and I can’t seem to find one on the web today.

I think they’re fun to catch. JeffC has a well deserved reputation as ROFF’s Whitefish expert. RW has a couple of Whitefish patterns. Personally I’m glad that Whitefish seem to be starting to get a better reputation as a game fish. Although some anglers will still throw them in the bushes, this is much less common. Last Fall on the ranch section of Henry’s Fork, the Whitefish would feed right next to the trout. I caught a couple very large Whitefish on dries. On the Madison, Warren and myself found what must of been close to a hundred Whitefish feeding on Trico’s in the outside curve of a section of rapids. Willi

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On the Deschutes below Warm Springs we caught many whitefish while nymphing for rainbows. The Gold Ribbed Hare’s Ear (# 12 medium weighted) was my fly of choice when the trout weren’t rising. It seems when we caught one "snooter" in a riffle, we would catch several more in the same spot. They seemed to congregate together. My guess…. And, on the Weber river in Utah 25 or 30 years ago (good trout river), I witnessed a fishermen taking whitefish on a small ( # 14 or smaller) very light colored cream nymph. He was using a spinning rod combo and fishing a school (sp?) of whitefish. Guy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Up here in the Pacific Northwest we have The mountain whitefish (Prosopium williamsoni) and on at least two trout rivers, the Deschutes and the Crooked River in Oregon, whitefish have considerably larger populations than trout.  The population estimate for the mainstream Deschutes River is 5,000 whitefish per mile. Since I release just about everything I catch these days, I think they are a nice addition to most of the fisheries around here.  They seem to take the same patterns as the trout and I have heard of some patterns tied just for the whitefish, although I have never seen one and I can’t seem to find one on the web today. I think they’re fun to catch. JeffC has a well deserved reputation as ROFF’s Whitefish expert. RW has a couple of Whitefish patterns. Personally I’m glad that Whitefish seem to be starting to get a better reputation as a game fish. Although some anglers will still throw them in the bushes, this is much less common. Last Fall on the ranch section of Henry’s Fork, the Whitefish would feed right next to the trout. I caught a couple very large Whitefish on dries. On the Madison, Warren and myself found what must of been close to a hundred Whitefish feeding on Trico’s in the outside curve of a section of rapids. Willi

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The European whitefish and the mountain whitefish of the North American west are in different genera, so parallels drawn or assumed to exist between them (in the absence of first-hand experience) are suspect in my book. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Last Fall on the ranch section of Henry’s Fork, the Whitefish would feed right next to the trout. I caught a couple very large Whitefish on dries. On the Madison, Warren and myself found what must of been close to a hundred Whitefish feeding on Trico’s in the outside curve of a section of rapids.

I caught all mine on nymphs – none on dries.  At first I just assumed it was because of how the whitefish mouth is shaped and angled, but you and others have caught them on dries, so obviously they’re able to take flies off the surface.

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I think they’re fun to catch. JeffC has a well deserved reputation as ROFF’s Whitefish expert. RW has a couple of Whitefish patterns.

Chamois nymphs work great, if you don’t mind approaching dangerously close to baitfishing. Copper Johns are also deadly, but they’re unethical, too. Galvanic action. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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On the Deschutes below Warm Springs we caught many whitefish while nymphing for rainbows. The Gold Ribbed Hare’s Ear (# 12 medium weighted) was my fly of choice when the trout weren’t rising. It seems when we caught one "snooter" in a riffle, we would catch several more in the same spot. They seemed to congregate together. My guess…. ……

On the very upper Deschutes (above Crane Prairie) the rainbows seem to segregate themselves.  Most runs, pools and riffles you know will contain only rainbows.  Brookies and whitefish, however, tend to share pools. There are a number of deep brook trout holes from which I’ll pull three or four whitefish for each brookie.  I used to think of the whitefish as a sort of admission fee–something you just had to go through, to get past, in order to hook a trout.  In latter years, I’ve come to enjoy catching them as much as the brookies, especially since, on average, they’re a good deal larger.  Powerful fighters, too, and when smoked, fine eating. JR

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http://www.virtualflybox.com/f0100/f0173.html

Ok thanks, more or less I have an idea, an emerging caddis can work. I am going to find out which caddises dwell in the place, so that I can choose the best colours. I was thinking also to a pond olive, they live in that lake and probably whitefish eats it. Bepo

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I have twice fished for this fish ( Coregonus laveratus)

C. lavaretus is the species italians introduced in their lakes during the XIX century. The only information I can offer you is in German.

In two weeks with a dictionary I can read nearly everything (nearly). I assume you wish to catch them to eat?

I will try to catch it to find out if I am able to do it, I don’t like to eat freshwater fish, they are few in number, overfished and not so good at taste, it’s better to let ‘em live. Except for invasive alloctonous species, like rainbow trout and brown trout. Bepo

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The European whitefish and the mountain whitefish of the North American west are in different genera, so parallels drawn or assumed to exist between them (in the absence of first-hand experience) are suspect in my

book. addition, none of them belong to the same genera as the mountain whitefish, bluegills, red eared sunfish, smallmouth bass, rock bass, or black crappie. I have caught all of the above (as well as many others) on elk hair caddis, pt nymphs, pass lakes, grhe, pickett pins, wooly buggers, ants, and hoppers (as well as many others).  Parallels drawn or assumed to exist between them are safe enough in MY book. Wolfgang

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RW wrote "Copper Johns are also deadly, but they’re unethical, too. Galvanic action. " — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ Damn! and I just tied up 2 dozen of them!  I wish you would tell me what flies were unethical before I tie them up I suppose –  to be pure and all – If it catches fish, its probably unethical as a general rule. jh

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Damn! and I just tied up 2 dozen of them!  I wish you would tell me what flies were unethical before I tie them up

If you use anything other than your snout or paws, it’s unethical. <g — Charlie…

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Personally I’m glad that Whitefish seem to be starting to get a better reputation as a game fish. Although some anglers will still throw them in the bushes, this is much less common.

I spent a few days floating the Big Horn with a local guide who grew up on the reservation there.  He sure knew his river, and boy could he handle that boat with authority.   Occasionally I’d hookup with a WFish and the guide seem to get extremely upset about it, I mean really mad.  I’ll never forget him taking those large suckers and huckin’ ‘em as far as he could onto the nearest bank, into the bushes.  He’d call them trash fish and pontificate how they were a disgrace to the fishery…. To this day, I still feel bad about that.  It just didn’t set well with me at all. K

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<SNIP Occasionally I’d hookup with a WFish and the guide seem to get extremely upset about it, I mean really mad.  I’ll never forget him taking those large suckers and huckin’ ‘em as far as he could onto the nearest bank, into the bushes.  He’d call them trash fish and pontificate how they were a disgrace to the fishery…. To this day, I still feel bad about that.  It just didn’t set well with me at all.

Years ago, literally tons of Grayling were caught from certain rivers, and thrown up on the bank. Lots of pike were also destroyed in this way.  There are still one or two stupid and short-sighted people who consider grayling a pest. Apart from that, something rather puzzles me.  If people catch and release, what does it matter what they catch and release? Or is it that there is some indefinable but somehow much greater kudos involved in catching certain salmonids? There are plenty of other fish which are just as challenging to catch, some a lot more so than trout etc. As a general rule, I keep sizeable takeable fish I catch, but I consider others as a bonus usually, ( even if I am obliged to release them), and not as pests. I just like catching fish, I am not overly fussy what type. Just curiosity, no wish to start a C&R debate. TL MC

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Years ago, literally tons of Grayling were caught from certain rivers, and thrown up on the bank. Lots of pike were also destroyed in this way. There are still one or two stupid and short-sighted people who consider grayling a pest.

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I’ve attended two of last three Denver shows (‘95 & ‘97).  It’s going be a tough call as to which trade show to attend for 1998;  Denver or Salt Lake….Attending both can stretch a small budget.  I’m passing to see how this whole political matter shakes out. I received letters from both Orvis & Umpqua indicating they will not attend EITHER show.  The lists I’ve received about both shows’ attendees shows a heavier representation of the major rod companies at Salt Lake City Show.  My feeling is more people are favoring Salt Lake.

I’d say that Orvis doesn’t need to attend.  They have a huge network of shops, and lodges, and strong mail order operation.  They hardly need to do another show. Umpquah, I’m not so sure about.  While they still seem to be the number one supplier of flies, I can help but wonder about their solvency in the present market.  For instance, they used to have a web presence of sorts at flyfishers.com.  They now seem to be doing their site inhouse and it’s a real stinker.  A company like umpqua would be expected to leave such work to pros – highly paid ones – to ensure the highest quality.  Look at The winston and orvis sites – these are very well done sites and did not come cheap.  What’s up with Umpqua? A little trouble in paradise? </c

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve attended two of last three Denver shows (‘95 & ‘97).  It’s going be a tough call as to which trade show to attend for 1998;  Denver or Salt Lake….Attending both can stretch a small budget.  I’m passing to see how this whole political matter shakes out. I received letters from both Orvis & Umpqua indicating they will not attend EITHER show.  The lists I’ve received about both shows’ attendees shows a heavier representation of the major rod companies at Salt Lake City Show.  My feeling is more people are favoring Salt Lake. I’d say that Orvis doesn’t need to attend.  They have a huge network of shops, and lodges, and strong mail order operation.  They hardly need to do another show. Umpquah, I’m not so sure about.  While they still seem to be the number one supplier of flies, I can help but wonder about their solvency in the present market.  For instance, they used to have a web presence of sorts at flyfishers.com.  They now seem to be doing their site inhouse and it’s a real stinker.  A company like umpqua would be expected to leave such work to pros – highly paid ones – to ensure the highest quality.  Look at The winston and orvis sites – these are very well done sites and did not come cheap.  What’s up with Umpqua? A little trouble in paradise? </c

      Yes, it’s my understanding they’ve been bought out.                                                             John Popp                                                        in Sanford Fl.

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Jon—You’re correct,  Umpqua has been purchased by an investment group.  I’m sure their main focus is ROI & Dennis Black is happily retired.  I looked for the hard copy letter they sent to their accounts in making the official anouncement about 5-6 months ago …but couldn’t find it to relay the name of the group. This is what’s been going on in the industry the last few years;  Sage, Scott, Powell etc. to name a few.  Some of the groups are knowldgeable about the industry & some don’t seem to be that well intuned.  Nevertheless they’re business people & put in place execs who are business oriented…which is the way it should be if the focus is ROI.  Ideally, they should be both flyfishng savy & business keen.  Just like everything else…mergers, buy-outs downsizing etc…maybe the industry needs this movement to stay healthy. As for the two shows;  I feel there’s a lot of politics, money & super-egos involved.  It’ll be interesting to observe what transpires.  But I feel the small, independent fly shop is put in a difficult decision mode. CyberFly

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip Umpquah, I’m not so sure about.  While they still seem to be the number one supplier of flies, I can help but wonder about their solvency in the present market.  For instance, they used to have a web presence of sorts at flyfishers.com.  They now seem to be doing their site inhouse and it’s a real stinker.  A company like umpqua would be expected to leave such work to pros – highly paid ones – to ensure the highest quality.  Look at The winston and orvis sites – these are very well done sites and did not come cheap.  What’s up with Umpqua? A little trouble in paradise? </c       Yes, it’s my understanding they’ve been bought out.                                                             John Popp                                                        in Sanford Fl.

Really?  Who, I wonder? If true,it’s not too much of a surprise.  UFM has been plagued with all sorts of internal trouble for years.  The principals may have had enough and packed it in.

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Cyberfly — You raise an excellent question about the future of the business side of flyfishing. It doesn’t seem likely that the "industry" can support two shows. I was surprised to learn that some of the most respected pros in the business are going to the Salt Lake show. I think this is just one more sign that the business side of flyfishing is in for some major shakeups in the immediate future. It’ll be interesting to watch. One of the things I wish for is a company to come along that offers an excellent lightweight saltwater flyrod for $200. BobE. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve attended two of last three Denver shows (‘95 & ‘97).  It’s going be a tough call as to which trade show to attend for 1998;  Denver or Salt Lake….Attending both can stretch a small budget.  I’m passing to see how this whole political matter shakes out. I received letters from both Orvis & Umpqua indicating they will not attend EITHER show.  The lists I’ve received about both shows’ attendees shows a heavier representation of the major rod companies at Salt Lake City Show.  My feeling is more people are favoring Salt Lake. CyberFly

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I’ve attended two of last three Denver shows (‘95 & ‘97).  It’s going be a tough call as to which trade show to attend for 1998;  Denver or Salt Lake….Attending both can stretch a small budget.  I’m passing to see how this whole political matter shakes out. I received letters from both Orvis & Umpqua indicating they will not attend EITHER show.  The lists I’ve received about both shows’ attendees shows a heavier representation of the major rod companies at Salt Lake City Show.  My feeling is more people are favoring Salt Lake. CyberFly

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Anyone interested in fishing this great river with myself email: I’m not a guide. I have been fly fishing for 25 years ( I am 35) and tie ALL my own flies. Looking to meet a few avid fly fishermen. -Dave

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Anyone interested in fishing this great river with myself email: I’m not a guide. I have been fly fishing for 25 years ( I am 35) and tie ALL my own flies. Looking to meet a few avid fly fishermen. -Dave

Stand at the head of any Delaware pool on a pleasant Saturday in June, swing your rod around in a circle at arm’s length and you should hit about 10 fellow fly chuckers Seriously, I love to fish the Delaware though don’t get down there as much as I would like these days. I would suggest a stay at the Delaware River Club or the West Branch Angler and you will likely meet a number of friendly folks that share your interest. Good luck, Steve

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Ditto on your recommendation on the West Branch Angler. Top shelf

operation with lots of good people. Bill — Bill Fling                     Tel. (315) 298-3044 SALMON RIVER ANGLERS LODGE     FAX  (315) 298-2619 P.O. Box 353                   Rt. 13, Rome Road Pulaski, NY 13142-0353   ‘SALMON RIVER/LAKE ONTARIO SPORTFISHING REPORTS’             ‘http://www.salmon-river.com’

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Ditto on your recommendation on the West Branch Angler. Top shelf operation with lots of good people.

I much prefer The Delaware River Club over West Branch Angler (they’re about a mile apart for those not familiar with the West Branch of he Delaware.  The West Branch Angler seems to be trying to cater to a more upscale crowd and it’s reflected in the prices of their flyshop and accomodations.  I’ve been in their shop about three times and each time they came off a bit snobbish.  The DRC on the other hand just doesn’t seem pretentious at all.  I stayed at the lodge last year with my girlfriend and even though she doesn’t fish they offered her the use of a pair of waders (no charge) so that she could "fish" with me.  Bob and his wife are extremely congenial and offer information freely about places to fish, techniques, and just about anything else one might need.  Add to that the experience and knowledge of Al Caucci and his fly school at DRC and it’s hard to beat. This may only be a rumor, but the first time I fish the West Branch I talked to a couple of guys that implied that the owner of West Branch Angler had been prosecuted two years in a row for illegally stocking rainbows in the section of stream in front of their resort.  Apparently the fine for such an offense was about the same as a single nights stay at one of their cabins. Add Bill

John Fereira

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The minimum release has been cut back to 160 cfs. Looks like trouble ahead for the WB and big D trout if we have a "normal" rainfall summer and the Delaware tribs supply enough water to keep Phila. happy. It’s sad that the NYDEC would agree to such a release schedule. But I guess the decision was made by people who don’t fish the WB and and don’t know it’s water needs in the summer. In their ignorance, I suppose 160 cfs sounded like a good number.            Bob

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What do mean be by stability in the releases from Cannonsville? I’ve been fishing the WB since 1980 and the water releases have pretty much remained the same. Up one day, down the next. Starting this year, a new release schedule has been instituted. Starting June 1, the mandatory release will be 160 cfs. This will continue until Sept. 1. In the past the mandatory summer release started on June 15 and was 330 cfs. I believe these numbers are correct or nearly so. In addition the minimum winter release has been increased slightly. Instead of 30 people/minute in Deposit flushing their toilets, I think they’ve increased it to 45. I agree with Al Caucci who believes this new minimum summer release schedule is inadequate. If we get a stretch of 80 degree plus days for about a week in July, the water temps. near Hancock will go thru the roof. In addition, with such a small release, most of the trout will tend to move upstream towards Deposit. The "stress bank" has been increased. Big deal. I realize that these higher temps. will adversely affect Caucci’s DRC business which is near Hancock, but I also believe it will have a major negative effect on the whole WB fishery. It most likely will cut the driftboat traffic on the WB which is a plus.  But with the river running low during the summer, it will make the river more fishable than in the past and will put a lot more fishing pressure on the trout. I hope I’m wrong, but that’s the worst case scenario that I see for this summer on the fabulous WB. Bob Hergan

I suppose "relative stability" would be a more accurate term for the flow regime in the upper Delaware. Absolute stability is, of course, unattainable even under natural conditions let alone in a system which serves so many demands. Cold water fishery considerations will always take a back seat for NYC water supply and combatting saltwater intrusion to protect the Phila.& Camden water supplies. The "directed" releases which are aimed at holding back the saltline and and which require a 1750cfs at the Montague gauge are (IMHO) more important to the c.w. fishery than the "conservation" releases which began in fits and starts in 1977 and were finally permanently approved by the DRBC late in ‘83. The agreement called for a minimum release from Cannonsville of 45cfs from 4/1 to 6/14 and 8/16 to 12/31, 325cfs from 6/15 to 8/15 ( except in defined drought or drought warning- a whole nother story) and 33cfs from 11/1 to 3/31. If the required summer release from Canonsville has been cut back to 160 cfs there will be problems in the W. Branch and the mainstem since the mainstem Delaware lives or dies by the cold water thermoplume from the W. Branch. This will happen when there is adequate enough flow in the watershed in general to maintain the "Montague Formula" without Canonsville’s help.                         Regards, RY

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What do mean be by stability in the releases from Cannonsville? I’ve been fishing the WB since 1980 and the water releases have pretty much remained the same. Up one day, down the next. Starting this year, a new release schedule has been instituted. Starting June 1, the mandatory release will be 160 cfs. This will continue until Sept. 1. In the past the mandatory summer release started on June 15 and was 330 cfs. I believe these numbers are correct or nearly so. In addition the minimum winter release has been increased slightly. Instead of 30 people/minute in Deposit flushing their toilets, I think they’ve increased it to 45. I agree with Al Caucci who believes this new minimum summer release schedule is inadequate. If we get a stretch of 80 degree plus days for about a week in July, the water temps. near Hancock will go thru the roof. In addition, with such a small release, most of the trout will tend to move upstream towards Deposit. The "stress bank" has been increased. Big deal. I realize that these higher temps. will adversely affect Caucci’s DRC business which is near Hancock, but I also believe it will have a major negative effect on the whole WB fishery. It most likely will cut the driftboat traffic on the WB which is a plus.  But with the river running low during the summer, it will make the river more fishable than in the past and will put a lot more fishing pressure on the trout. I hope I’m wrong, but that’s the worst case scenario that I see for this summer on the fabulous WB.
Bob Hergan  

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip pervious posts Tell you what bugs me: maybe social degradation on the Delaware was inevitable, but it looks to me and plenty of others like the hucksters ruined the experience on the river and instigated a disturbing control mentality throughout the watershed. These guys were largely mute in the 70’s and early 80’s when the battle for adequate flows was going on. Just as soon as there was some stability they moved-in to scarf-up control and reap the profits.                         Ray Ray, I’m not sure what you mean by "social degradation" and would be interested in your definition.

A selfish one admittedly: overcrowding due to access restrictions to the point of unpleasantness, a lack by many of what the old timers called stream etiquette, general unseemliness like yelling things like paraleptophlebia and isonychia across the pools. And many other things that could be endlessly rationalized and debated but that have vitiated what I consider a satisfying angling experience. As to the ‘Johny come lately with money’ scenario, it seems like what else could be expected. With flow stability providing a real world-class fishery the value of riverside property as a money maker was now to be realized. So a couple of guys with the resources show up and start buying so they can lock up as much access as possible. They can sell this access and related services for top dollar. This is pretty much the development scenario going on everywhere.

True but nonetheless still worth bitching about.                                 Regards, Ray

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<snip pervious posts Tell you what bugs me: maybe social degradation on the Delaware was inevitable, but it looks to me and plenty of others like the hucksters ruined the experience on the river and instigated a disturbing control mentality throughout the watershed. These guys were largely mute in the 70’s and early 80’s when the battle for adequate flows was going on. Just as soon as there was some stability they moved-in to scarf-up control and reap the profits.                         Ray

Ray, I’m not sure what you mean by "social degradation" and would be interested in your definition. As to the ‘Johny come lately with money’ scenario, it seems like what else could be expected. With flow stability providing a real world-class fishery the value of riverside property as a money maker was now to be realized. So a couple of guys with the resources show up and start buying so they can lock up as much access as possible. They can sell this access and related services for top dollar. This is pretty much the development scenario going on everywhere. One solution would be the purchase of public access easements by local or state governments. But I wouldn’t hold out much hope for this happening along the New York State boundary. Regards, Steve

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip DRC accolade This may only be a rumor, but the first time I fish the West Branch I talked to a couple of guys that implied that the owner of West Branch Angler had been prosecuted two years in a row for illegally stocking rainbows in the section of stream in front of their resort.  Apparently the fine for such an offense was about the same as a single nights stay at one of their cabins. Geez, John! I’ve not heard this rumor but…if it is only a rumor of which you know no actual facts it is unfortunate you chose to pass it along on the internet.  Such rumor publication has the potential to do unnecessary harm to the innocent. I agree that the WBA prices are stiff but on the other hand all of the employees I have interacted with have treated me very cordially and have been helpful to me. Their accomodations have been wonderfull. I have heard good things about the DRC from others and will give them a try this year. Regards, Steve Actually, neither WBA or DRC is squeaky-clean in their attempts to attract customers.  WBA’s stocking violations are fairly well known; DRC has a habit of dramatically overstating the amount of private water they have (I measured .75 miles vs. their claim of 2.5 miles), and then they’ll throw you out of the best pool (Cole’s) on a whim.  But not to worry, because all of DRC’s water and much of WBA’s water is fairly easily accessible from the New York side.  My recommendation: find a decent non-angling motel nearby and fish the entire West Branch netween Deposit and Hancock as well as the main stem below Hancock.  Neither DRC or WBA is worth the extra money or the hassle. MZ

Tell you what bugs me: maybe social degradation on the Delaware was inevitable, but it looks to me and plenty of others like the hucksters ruined the experience on the river and instigated a disturbing control mentality throughout the watershed. These guys were largely mute in the 70’s and early 80’s when the battle for adequate flows was going on. Just as soon as there was some stability they moved-in to scarf-up control and reap the profits.                         Ray

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<snip DRC accolade This may only be a rumor, but the first time I fish the West Branch I talked to a couple of guys that implied that the owner of West Branch Angler had been prosecuted two years in a row for illegally stocking rainbows in the section of stream in front of their resort.  Apparently the fine for such an offense was about the same as a single nights stay at one of their cabins.

Geez, John! I’ve not heard this rumor but…if it is only a rumor of which you know no actual facts it is unfortunate you chose to pass it along on the internet.  Such rumor publication has the potential to do unnecessary harm to the innocent. I agree that the WBA prices are stiff but on the other hand all of the employees I have interacted with have treated me very cordially and have been helpful to me. Their accomodations have been wonderfull. I have heard good things about the DRC from others and will give them a try this year. Regards, Steve

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snip DRC accolade This may only be a rumor, but the first time I fish the West Branch I talked to a couple of guys that implied that the owner of West Branch Angler had been prosecuted two years in a row for illegally stocking rainbows in the section of stream in front of their resort.  Apparently the fine for such an offense was about the same as a single nights stay at one of their cabins. Geez, John! I’ve not heard this rumor but…if it is only a rumor of which you know no actual facts it is unfortunate you chose to pass it along on the internet.  Such rumor publication has the potential to do unnecessary harm to the innocent. I agree that the WBA prices are stiff but on the other hand all of the employees I have interacted with have treated me very cordially and have been helpful to me. Their accomodations have been wonderfull. I have heard good things about the DRC from others and will give them a try this year. Regards, Steve

Actually, neither WBA or DRC is squeaky-clean in their attempts to attract customers.  WBA’s stocking violations are fairly well known; DRC has a habit of dramatically overstating the amount of private water they have (I measured .75 miles vs. their claim of 2.5 miles), and then they’ll throw you out of the best pool (Cole’s) on a whim.  But not to worry, because all of DRC’s water and much of WBA’s water is fairly easily accessible from the New York side.  My recommendation: find a decent non-angling motel nearby and fish the entire West Branch netween Deposit and Hancock as well as the main stem below Hancock.  Neither DRC or WBA is worth the extra money or the hassle. MZ

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I heard the same rumor about the stocking, and the W. Br. Angler owner is doing his damddest to buy up and post as much of the W. Br. and also the main D below Hancock to cater to that upscale crowd you mentioned. That’s why the NYDEC bought a couple of access sites in the no-kill section. Just to get there before he did. Got this from a DEC official about the access sites.  

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Have spent many of my earlier years on the Little Lehigh….thru Hs and College and since then.It is a great stream to fish year around with some sort of surface activity(lots of Midges) just about year around. It is a limestoner with lots of trout to fish over in the c+r area near the hatchery. that part of the stream can be fished from the bank only…..about .5 of a mile long.Very picky fish who just about see everything…..be prepared to go small 8x……size24…….5 wt rod is  I wish the stream was closer….but our saltwater action makes up for it. Good Luck Peter Whelan

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Looking for any info on how the Little Lehigh fishes early/mid March. Patterns, places, local shops…..even better if someone familiar with the river wouldn’t mind me jumping in on an early season fish  (and not Thanks in advance. Tight Lines. JAPPLE

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Looking for any info on how the Little Lehigh fishes early/mid March. the river wouldn’t mind me jumping in on an early season fish   Post it here or

Hi JAPPLE know, Lee Iacocca went here).  I am most familiar with the Little Lehigh. I have been here for 5 months and have fished it almost exclusively.  It is 8 miles from my home.  There is a Fly Fishing Heritage section for FF only C&R water.  I atleast can get you to where you want to go.  Also, the Monocacy (in Bethlehem, 2 miles from my house) has Trophy Trout water open then.  The Bushkill (20 min. from my house) has a 1 mile  of C&R, but I’ve never been there.  There are all kinds of decent fly shops that give good advice.  They are very frendly and helpful: that’s how I found where to go!  I can be a good contact point.  I’m not a loon and I get along with people.  I at least can get you to the REAL people in the know.  Many stores (the ones I know) have a list of what flies are working on which streams.  You need line no heavier than #6 (what I use.  Shit, #4 would be perfect, but I’m not going to buy a whole new outfit for a few situations).  7X tipet and a hand-full of what ever flies are recommended.         Sincerely;         Jason Beary

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looking for any info on how the Little Lehigh fishes early/mid March. the river wouldn’t mind me jumping in on an early season fish   Post it here or Hi JAPPLE know, Lee Iacocca went here).  I am most familiar with the Little Lehigh. I have been here for 5 months and have fished it almost exclusively.  It is 8 miles from my home.  There is a Fly Fishing Heritage section for FF only C&R water.  I atleast can get you to where you want to go.  Also, the Monocacy (in Bethlehem, 2 miles from my house) has Trophy Trout water open then.  The Bushkill (20 min. from my house) has a 1 mile  of C&R, but I’ve never been there.  There are all kinds of decent fly shops that give good advice.  They are very frendly and helpful: that’s how I found where to go!  I can be a good contact point.  I’m not a loon and I get along with people.  I at least can get you to the REAL people in the know.  Many stores (the ones I know) have a list of what flies are working on which streams.  You need line no heavier than #6 (what I use.  Shit, #4 would be perfect, but I’m not going to buy a whole new outfit for a few situations).  7X tipet and a hand-full of what ever flies are recommended.    Sincerely;    Jason Beary

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Hi Seal-EX is distributed by Rocky Mountain Dubbing in Lander, WY. They don’t sell directly to the public but could probably tell you a store they serve near you. You can reach them at 800-866-4094. Good Luck Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT

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There is a new product available from Partridge in the SLF range that I personally find a lot easier to dub, is much more like seal and comes in a lovely array of colors. It was developed by Davy Wotton and Poul Jorgensen (original developer of Seal-Ex) and is available at http://www.flyfield.com

It’s neat stuff, but sparkles a lot more than natural seal does.  Fishes great though.                                                              Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Schools Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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Does anyone know a supplier of Poul Jorgansen’s Seal-Ex dubbing? If you havn’t used it, it shines like a mother, and is great for caddis pupa. Thanx, Adam

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The FISHING LOG is a Powerful Software Program for Windows 3.? or 95. It tracks every aspect of your fishing trips/sessions in great detail. It is colorful, extremely powerful and very user friendly. Keeps track of just about anything you can think of in Fresh Water or Salt. It is a large program of research quality but you can make it as simple or as detailed as you wish. Export data to other programs for analysis and charting. The best part is that if you download it yourself it is FREE. Registration has benefits but it is ready to go as is and you will probably agree with my wife that only a nut would give this away. Yes you CAN copy it onto diskettes and give it to your friends. If you dont they may not remain friendly. Just send me a Email for the ftp.site. I wont be bugging you for money. Unzips into about 7 megabytes. — *** Home of the Fishing Log ***

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Just send me a Email for the ftp.site. I wont be bugging you for money.

Hi Robert,        Please inform me of the ftp site.        As you can see I am from England, at the good old age of 60, I have just taken up fly fishing.        The wife and I + two grand sons do a lot of caravan/camping in the summer and a few of the small rivers in the Dales where we camp have brown trout and grayling in them.        Cheers,

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Will Email you later tonight. I know the feling well. Although I’ve been flyfishing all my life I never wrote anything like this before for free. Took me 2.5 months to do it ans some of the sessions were LOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGG! — *** Home of the Fishing Log ***

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The FISHING LOG is a Powerful Software Program for Windows 3.? or 95. It tracks every aspect of your fishing trips/sessions in Just send me a Email for the ftp.site. I wont be bugging you for money. Unzips into about 7 megabytes. — *** Home of the Fishing Log ***

Yes but I am fed up seeing 6 postings a week from you , set up a web site and leave us in peace. Chris Cox

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One thing to consider if you want to FF from a canoe is that you’ll be only marginally higher out of the water than if you are in a float tube; you can stand up in a cartopper, but a canoe …. Consequently, you might want to consider a longer rod (as the tubers often pack). A 10ft rod will keep your backcast drier than an 8ft one. Or, preferably, work on your casting to keep the back cast out of the water.   Sitting in a canoe you’re at least as high out of the water as you typically are when wading.  So, if you’re hitting the water behind you in a canoe, you’re almost certainly doing the same thing when wading–i.e., you casting could use some help. And improving your casting is cheaper than buying another, longer rod. Emil

I would have to agree there.  Canoes are great.  I use one on Lake Cayuga in NY, and I dont know about anyone else, but if you are somewhat able, I have never had any problems standing. Jon

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I’ve found that if you’re right-handed, it helps to cast from the right side of the canoe, parallel with its length, i.e. not across the beam. And try not to let the stripped line get tangled up in the paddle, float jacket and six-pack and/or your ankle in the bottom of the boat. When the mother of all basses hits, you don’t want to be pulled overboard to your doom like some freshwater Captain Ahab. Course, I could think of worse ways to go…. Sent Via SportsNet On-Line Services Toronto’s Premier Sports and Recreation Service Modem: 416-223-2463    Phone: 416-223-2250 Ext. 33

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Good for you!  I’m convinced float tubes became popular when folks no longer had time to lean to paddle.  For range, keeping dry and all-round fun canoes are are wonderful.  now if you want to get really frisky learn to pole upstream. — ** Louis Bignami, Publisher         http://www.finefishing.com Fine Fishing Internet Magazine                "largest fishing mag on the Net" **

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best thing about fishing from a canoe…even if the fish aren’t bitin’ you’re, well, in that canoe… Tim Walker

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Personally, I love canoes too,they are just prettier and much more versatile than any other watercraft, especially when you add options to a standard canoe. Consider these advantages: -Canoes are inherently more hydrodynamic than a john boat, and move through the water with less effort (how much less depends on hull shape.) -Because they’re streamlined at both ends, canoes move forward easily yet still easily "hold" in a good spot against a swift river current hitting the stern. -A kneeling canoeist can be as stealthy as a float tuber and cover much more water. (Though admittedly, a float tuber can move without having to put the rod down.) – A long, narrow, fast canoe can be converted to a "john boat like"  slow, stable craft by adding solid foam or inflatable sponsons (aka swimmies or water wings). These canoe ‘training wheels’ install in seconds and may not add much drag at all.  They’re a God send when you want to stand up to spot fish or when running unfamiliar big rapids. -Adding gunnel mounted oarlocks or a rowing frame to an already fast canoe will get the lone angler across the lake or up the river faster than any other non-motorized fishing craft (including a kayak). – There are "collapsible canoes" available from Ally and ScanSports which can store in a closet, or travel in the trunk of compact car, a float plane or as checked baggage on an airliner. -You can add a motor mount to almost any canoe for long hauls against wind or current. I could go on, but if you’re only going to get one craft to handle every possible fly fishing situation, get a canoe.  This doesn’t rule out the possibility that for the type of fishing you do most, another craft may be just as good or better.  You be the judge. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When considering a canoe for fishing, make sure you can easily paddle it. Beamy boats are great for short hauls but if you’re going to where the fish are and the other guys in the beamy boats aren’t get a boat that you can paddle.  A solo boat is okay if you don’t have or don’t want any friends.  Suggest a boat in the 14 to 15 foot range that could handle a center paddling position ( add a seat yourself) and then you’d have a boat that could get you there. Good tumblehome to make paddling a little easier.  Suggest learning to fish from the seated or kneeling position…or if you’re real good try standing on the gunwhales 8/]) TK

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: When considering a canoe for fishing, make sure you can easily paddle it. : Beamy boats are great for short hauls but if you’re going to where the : fish are and the other guys in the beamy boats aren’t get a boat that you : can paddle.  A solo boat is okay if you don’t have or don’t want any : friends.  Suggest a boat in the 14 to 15 foot range that could handle a : center paddling position ( add a seat yourself) and then you’d have a boat : that could get you there. Good tumblehome to make paddling a little : easier.  Suggest learning to fish from the seated or kneeling : position…or if you’re real good try standing on the gunwhales 8/]) One thing to consider if you want to FF from a canoe is that you’ll be only marginally higher out of the water than if you are in a float tube; you can stand up in a cartopper, but a canoe …. Consequently, you might want to consider a longer rod (as the tubers often pack). A 10ft rod will keep your backcast drier than an 8ft one. — 3798 Woodland Drive     voice: (604) 368-9315 Trail, BC               data:  (604) 368-9341

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : When considering a canoe for fishing, make sure you can easily paddle it. : Beamy boats are great for short hauls but if you’re going to where the : fish are and the other guys in the beamy boats aren’t get a boat that you : can paddle.  A solo boat is okay if you don’t have or don’t want any : friends.  Suggest a boat in the 14 to 15 foot range that could handle a : center paddling position ( add a seat yourself) and then you’d have a boat : that could get you there. Good tumblehome to make paddling a little : easier.  Suggest learning to fish from the seated or kneeling : position…or if you’re real good try standing on the gunwhales 8/]) One thing to consider if you want to FF from a canoe is that you’ll be only marginally higher out of the water than if you are in a float tube; you can stand up in a cartopper, but a canoe …. Consequently, you might want to consider a longer rod (as the tubers often pack). A 10ft rod will keep your backcast drier than an 8ft one.

Or, preferably, work on your casting to keep the back cast out of the water.   Sitting in a canoe you’re at least as high out of the water as you typically are when wading.  So, if you’re hitting the water behind you in a canoe, you’re almost certainly doing the same thing when wading–i.e., you casting could use some help. And improving your casting is cheaper than buying another, longer rod. Emil Department of Education Phone:  (607) 255-2267 419 Kennedy Hall                Fax:    (607) 255-7905 Cornell University Ithaca, NY 14853

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‘Course, I just think that canoes are wonderful so I’m biased. I can also cast 50′ easily from a sitting position, about as far as I need

to. Any recomemndations for the best 1 person canoe for streams and rivers? Thanx, Mike

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‘Course, I just think that canoes are wonderful so I’m biased. I can also cast 50′ easily from a sitting position, about as far as I need to. Any recomemndations for the best 1 person canoe for streams and rivers? Thanx, Mike

Mike,  I would take a serious look at the OldTown line of canoes. They have a few models that are ideal for your situation. I have the Dicovery 133K and it is a dream to fish from. The ruggedness coupled with the 40 1/2" beam makes it a great fly fishing vessel.                                     Best of Luck,                                                    Jay              /Leave nothing but footprints                                               /                                              /                                             /                                            /                                           /                                       O  /                                       |_/o                                       |                                      / |

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I routinely got "compression leaks" in the feet of my waders.  I switched to boot foot waders.  I’m not sure what to do about these leaks due to the the neoprene getting compressed to the point that the inner and outer skin touch each other.  I also would be interested in how to deal with these besides throwing them out.  Also how do you prevent the feet from getting compressed? Bill A.

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Neoprene compression is a problem because you stand on them all the time, and when neoprene gets compressed flat, it usually leaks.  Most companies who still use neoprene soles make them 5 mils thick to compensate for this and make them last longer.  Many of these companies will replace the foot on your waders for around $60.  Orvis uses Hypalon foam on the feet which is s foam version of the same stuff Zodiac boats are made out of, doesn’t need the extra bulk, and doesn’t suffer from this compression problem.  In fact that is the biggest reason they can offer their 4 year warranty on their waders without eating a bunch of waders.  Many other companies have followed suit, and from personal experience I highly recommend waders with Hypalon soles.  Keep repairing yours as long as is practical, but next time get waders with Hypalon soles for more durability. Dan Gracia Schools Coordinator Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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Bill, Waders with serious compression leaks in the feet can only be salvaged by sending them back to the manufacturer to have the foot portion of the wader replaced.  If you choose not to go this route, consider recycling the old waders before you throw them out.  With a razor knife you can cut up portions of the old waders to make gravel guards, knee pads, a butt pad, mouse pads for all your family…  Your question regarding prevention of compression leaks prompted me to examine the feet of my own waders. I’m 230 lbs (lots of compression!) and found some areas showing compression on 3 year old waders.  Without knowing what brand of wader you have or how often you use them, I’m not sure how to answer your question regarding prevention of compression.  I do know that all neoprene materials are not equal and the better materials are more resistant to compression.   Best wishes, Clay

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:  Also how do you prevent the : feet from getting compressed? : Bill A. Bill,  Fill your pockets with helium before heading off to     your favorite pool.  That should reduce the compression on both your wader feet and your socks! :^) Charley

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Are you suggesting loosing a few pounds might help? Bill A.

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: Are you suggesting loosing a few pounds might help? : Bill A. Heaven’s, No, Bill.  Compensating, that’s the key.  Loosing weight has no glamour of tinkering.  Contriving to counter the weight is THE way to go! Charley

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: How about this.. instead of losing weight, or injecting helium, perhaps : why not cutt off your feet?  If you do this, then there will be no : compression on the soles… of course, this would lead to other problesm, : is guess. : edwin aguilar You could also just walk on your hands…..course, you may have to hold your breath while casting with your, er, ah, ….. foot, yeah, your foot! Charley

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  Contriving to counter the weight is THE way to go! Charley

I AGREE. How about this.. instead of losing weight, or injecting helium, perhaps why not cutt off your feet?  If you do this, then there will be no compression on the soles… of course, this would lead to other problesm, is guess. edwin aguilar

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Thanks, Robert Yee

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        Coat the effected area with Simms Seal. This is a brown or blue urethane water-based emulsion with dries so fast you can use the waders in a matter of minutes. It also adheres to the neoprene extremely well and stops leaks.

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Would appreciate suggestions on how to, and what material to use, in repairingneoprene waders that have developed a small leak in the toe, appears to be a Thanks, Robert Yee

A product called ‘Aquaseal’ was recommended to me at a local tackle shop (Mel Cotton’s in San Jose).  I used it to seal up a rather large hole in the sole of my neoprene waders.  It works really well — dries up as a thick, clear rubbery seal that appears perhaps tougher than the neoprene skin itself.  Works wonders!  (Takes probably 8-12 hours or so to dry). J Smith Sunnyvale, CA

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Can anyone provide information of good fly fishing spots in and around Ithaca New York?   Thanks GDO

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Can anyone provide information of good fly fishing spots in and around Ithaca New York?   Thanks GDO

I have made the three – plus hour trip out to Ithaca from Albany a few times to fish for landlocked salmon, brown trout, and rainbow trout in the spring and fall.  Mostly I have stuck to Fall Creek, but I have also fished Salmon Creek which is a short drive from Ithaca.  Fall Creek flows right through Ithaca, and some of the best fishing can be in the large pool at the base of the magnificent waterfall about 1.5 miles upstream from where the creek pours into Cayuga Lake.  For info on what when where why etc. I suggest the book "Good Fishing in Western New York"…I think it is available from Countryman Press. Right now it may be a little early for the rainbows, but browns and salmon may be in.  It’s been a dry fall around here, though, and I haven’t heard anything great about the fishing in the Finger Lakes tribs.  Of course, if you live in the area it’s no big deal to check it out…if you hear anything about the salmon run, please post it.  I am desperate to catch a landlock on my flyrod!!! Paul DiConza     NY Capital District Angler

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