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Hi all: I’m putting together about a one hour talk/activity session on fly fishing at my son’s school for a ‘club activity day’. I’d like to bring in some good photos of some standard (mayflies, caddis etc)insects and other fish (trout) food. Most of the pic’s I have in magazines etc are rather small. If anyone can steer me to some good sites – please do! RalphH

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I’m putting together about a one hour talk/activity session on fly fishing at my son’s school for a ‘club activity day’. I’d like to bring in some good photos of some standard (mayflies, caddis etc)insects and other fish (trout) food.  If anyone can steer me to some good sites –

please do! Give this a try, Ralph. It takes a while for the page to load but has some nice jpgs of bugs from the Yakima River in Washington State. http://www.worleybuggerflyco.com/Yakima_River_Hatches.htm — Danny McMillin — Remove XX from email address to reduce spam.

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Try the McKenzie Page…some good pictures from Oregon. How are you going to show the images? PowerPoint from a laptop?? http://zebu.uoregon.edu/~dmason/Mckenzie/bugs.html Tim Lysyk – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi all: I’m putting together about a one hour talk/activity session on fly fishing at my son’s school for a ‘club activity day’. I’d like to bring in some good photos of some standard (mayflies, caddis etc)insects and other fish (trout) food. Most of the pic’s I have in magazines etc are rather small. If anyone can steer me to some good sites – please do! RalphH

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Hi all: I’m putting together about a one hour

talk/activity session on fly fishing at my son’s school for a ‘club activity

day’. I’d like to bring in some good photos of some standard (mayflies,

caddis etc)insects and other fish (trout) food. Most of the pic’s I

have in magazines etc are rather small. If anyone can steer me to some

good sites – please do! RalphH

http://www.ent.orst.edu/ore_images.htm http://www.colostate.edu/Depts/Entomology/links.ht ml#0

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Try the McKenzie Page…some good pictures from Oregon. How are you going to show the images? PowerPoint from a laptop??

I was planning to print them and attach some flies that imitate them – idea being to introduce the kids to the idea of imitation. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – http://zebu.uoregon.edu/~dmason/Mckenzie/bugs.html Tim Lysyk Hi all: I’m putting together about a one hour talk/activity session on fly fishing at my son’s school for a ‘club activity day’. I’d like to bring in some good photos of some standard (mayflies, caddis etc)insects and other fish (trout) food. Most of the pic’s I have in magazines etc are rather small. If anyone can steer me to some good sites – please do! RalphH

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great site and photos – thanks – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m putting together about a one hour talk/activity session on fly fishing at my son’s school for a ‘club activity day’. I’d like to bring in some good photos of some standard (mayflies, caddis etc)insects and other fish (trout) food.  If anyone can steer me to some good sites – please do! Give this a try, Ralph. It takes a while for the page to load but has some nice jpgs of bugs from the Yakima River in Washington State. http://www.worleybuggerflyco.com/Yakima_River_Hatches.htm — Danny McMillin — Remove XX from email address to reduce spam.

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Try the McKenzie Page…some good pictures from Oregon. How are you going to show the images? PowerPoint from a laptop?? I was planning to print them and attach some flies that imitate them – idea being to introduce the kids to the idea of imitation.

Unless these kids are pre-born, they’re way ahead of you…

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Try the McKenzie Page…some good pictures from Oregon. How are you going to show the images? PowerPoint from a laptop?? I was planning to print them and attach some flies that imitate them – idea being to introduce the kids to the idea of imitation. Unless these kids are pre-born,

… is that mu8ch like pre-owned?

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It may just be my monitor, but I think I liked Paul’s shot better than the example.

Please don’t mistake my post for a critique of Paul’s picture. His looks awesome and has a very high resolution. Plus he tied that fly himself for crying out loud. I’m just wondering when he’s going to fish with it There have been other threads of late about digital cameras and I think Paul’s image speaks highly of what a digital camera can do. In my post, I was simply commenting on how–in general–to get a solid-colored background. It was admittedly a bit of a non sequitur. –Steve

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Steve, Thanks for the info…I was just pretty impressed by quality of the orig photo. I just bought my daughter a 35mm (by her request), but now am wondering if she would be better off just getting a digi. cam. Rob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It may just be my monitor, but I think I liked Paul’s shot better than the example. Please don’t mistake my post for a critique of Paul’s picture. His looks awesome and has a very high resolution. Plus he tied that fly himself for crying out loud. I’m just wondering when he’s going to fish with it There have been other threads of late about digital cameras and I think Paul’s image speaks highly of what a digital camera can do. In my post, I was simply commenting on how–in general–to get a solid-colored background. It was admittedly a bit of a non sequitur. –Steve

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Gorgeous fly, Paul, and a great photo. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Hi, It was the Olympus 2020z with a wide angle adapter lens. With that adapter and the undocumented macro mode I was able to get 1.9" from the fly. I lit the fly with my halogen desk lamp. Paul

Paul, it is a GREAT shot.  The shaded background gives the fly a perfect richness of depth, and truly highlights the colors. — "Of what service would militia be to you, when most probably you will not have a single musket in the State; for as arms are to be provided by Congress, they may or may not furnish them?" -Patrick Henry,  5 June 1788

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It may just be my monitor, but I think I liked Paul’s shot better than the example. Rob – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – With that adapter and the undocumented macro mode I was able to get 1.9" from the fly. I lit the fly with my halogen desk lamp. Other general pointers… To get a white background, prop a piece of paper behind the fly. To avoid glare, block the overhead light using a clipboard or something similar, turn off the flash and then overexpose the shot. Here are a couple of examples: http://www.hamiltonrods.com/images/mosquito.jpg http://www.hamiltonrods.com/images/humpy.jpg Sometimes it’s nice to have a other backgrounds with little or no glare as well. Same technique applies. For a black background, I’ve found that an Unreal Tournament T-shirt works pretty well . You can vary the amount of glare by blocking more or less overhead light. Examples: http://www.hamiltonrods.com/images/DCP_0722.jpg http://www.hamiltonrods.com/images/DCP_0764.jpg http://www.hamiltonrods.com/images/DCP_0698.jpg Standard disclaimer… I’m an amateur photographer at best (but I have tried lots and lots of close up shots, most of which look pretty crappy). I defer to RW and Wayno for "real" photos. –Steve

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… http://www.hamiltonrods.com/images/DCP_0764.jpg …

Ooooo, ahhhhhh. That reel sure goes nicely with a Hamilton Rod. What is that, a Peerless ? — Ken Fortenberry

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With that adapter and the undocumented macro mode I was able to get 1.9" from the fly. I lit the fly with my halogen desk lamp.

Other general pointers… To get a white background, prop a piece of paper behind the fly. To avoid glare, block the overhead light using a clipboard or something similar, turn off the flash and then overexpose the shot. Here are a couple of examples: http://www.hamiltonrods.com/images/mosquito.jpg http://www.hamiltonrods.com/images/humpy.jpg Sometimes it’s nice to have a other backgrounds with little or no glare as well. Same technique applies. For a black background, I’ve found that an Unreal Tournament T-shirt works pretty well . You can vary the amount of glare by blocking more or less overhead light. Examples: http://www.hamiltonrods.com/images/DCP_0722.jpg http://www.hamiltonrods.com/images/DCP_0764.jpg http://www.hamiltonrods.com/images/DCP_0698.jpg Standard disclaimer… I’m an amateur photographer at best (but I have tried lots and lots of close up shots, most of which look pretty crappy). I defer to RW and Wayno for "real" photos. –Steve

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks for putting it on-line; my _great_ (sic) provider does provide me with the replies, but not with the binary . Great looking fly! Love the married slips. Looking at works of art like these, I remember the late Hans de Groot, a well known flytier from the Netherlands. He was tying a salmon fly at an exhibition. Some guy was watching him, and asked Hans how much he wanted for it, once he finished. ‘I don’t sell flies’ he murmured under his beard, and slowly and meticulously continued tying his fly. ‘I give you a hundred guilders for it’ said the man, palming his wallet. ‘I don’t sell flies’, was the undisturbed reply. This went on, a sweating man bidding up, Hans slowly finishing his fly. When he was finished he looked at a young boy, who head eyed every step of the process. ‘Do you like it?’ ‘Yes’ ‘It’s yours, take it.’ The now red with anger guy looked at Hans, who calmly said.. ‘I told you. I don’t sell flies..’ He is missed. Herman

And the modern American ending to the story: The boy then turned to the angry man and said, "It will be up on E-Bay in the morning."

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1600×1200, 384KB http://www.paul.goodwinweb.com/greenhilander.jpg

Which camera? Mu

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Hi, It was the Olympus 2020z with a wide angle adapter lens. With that adapter and the undocumented macro mode I was able to get 1.9" from the fly. I lit the fly with my halogen desk lamp. Paul . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 1600×1200, 384KB http://www.paul.goodwinweb.com/greenhilander.jpg Which camera? Mu

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Very kind of you Paul, thanks.   The fly looks very nice, and the photo is good as well. TL MC — "Where fishing is concerned, most anglers are basically manic excessives" http://www.mikeconnor.de – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mike, I just pushed the files up to my site. 1600×1200, 384KB http://www.paul.goodwinweb.com/greenhilander.jpg 800×600, 69KB http://www.paul.goodwinweb.com/greenhilander800×600.jpg If there are photos posted to APBF in the future that you want to see send me a note and I’ll load them for you. Paul

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Thanks for putting it on-line; my _great_ (sic) provider does provide me with the replies, but not with the binary . Great looking fly! Love the married slips. Looking at works of art like these, I remember the late Hans de Groot, a well known flytier from the Netherlands. He was tying a salmon fly at an exhibition. Some guy was watching him, and asked Hans how much he wanted for it, once he finished. ‘I don’t sell flies’ he murmured under his beard, and slowly and meticulously continued tying his fly. ‘I give you a hundred guilders for it’ said the man, palming his wallet. ‘I don’t sell flies’, was the undisturbed reply. This went on, a sweating man bidding up, Hans slowly finishing his fly. When he was finished he looked at a young boy, who head eyed every step of the process. ‘Do you like it?’ ‘Yes’ ‘It’s yours, take it.’ The now red with anger guy looked at Hans, who calmly said.. ‘I told you. I don’t sell flies..’ He is missed. Herman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mike, I just pushed the files up to my site. 1600×1200, 384KB http://www.paul.goodwinweb.com/greenhilander.jpg 800×600, 69KB http://www.paul.goodwinweb.com/greenhilander800×600.jpg If there are photos posted to APBF in the future that you want to see send me a note and I’ll load them for you. Paul Is there any way we could obtain some ROFF space somewhere for pictures like this, even temporary space for a week or so?  I am completely unable to [snip]

–         Cheers, Herman         Herman Nijland         Daytime webmaster         Lifetime flyfisher

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Is there any way we could obtain some ROFF space somewhere for pictures like this, even temporary space for a week or so?  I am completely unable to obtain APBF, and I would certainly like to look at some of the things being posted there.

I don’t know how well it will work, but there’s a site… http://www.imira.com that will host photo albums. I just created a group for ROFF name: roff password: roffroff   (it wanted at least 6 characters) You can create various albums and subalbums there, but I haven’t tried it out yet.      - Ken

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Paul, very, very nice. May I suggest that you modify the width of the jpeg to 500-600 pixels? This will load the pic on a 15 or 17 inch monitor and allow the viewer to see the complete fly in all of it’s glory w/o having to use sidebars to view. again, very nice… you have talent. Walt

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I cut it in half (800×600) and posted it to APBF for those who are diagonally challenged. I just got a 22" flat screen and the picture fits perfectly. Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – After 8< Paul, very, very nice. May I suggest that you modify the width of the jpeg to 500-600 pixels? This will load the pic on a 15 or 17 inch monitor and allow the viewer to see the complete fly in all of it’s glory w/o having to use sidebars to view. again, very nice… you have talent. Walt

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That’s no highlander, where’s the kilt! But more to the point – will you fish it? Seriously, there’s a huge amount of work in that fly and the makings of a serious addiction.  I’m always amazed at the patience and artistry in these things.  Far more than this feeble tier can manage. Hats off. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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I cut it in half (800×600) and posted it to APBF for those who are diagonally challenged. I just got a 22" flat screen and the picture fits perfectly. Paul

I just posted nice things about your fly but I after hearing you brag about your 22′ flat screen I’m taking it all back.  <g Peter (still squinting at a bent tube) Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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I cut it in half (800×600) and posted it to APBF for those who are diagonally challenged. I just got a 22" flat screen and the picture fits perfectly. Paul

much better! walt

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I just got a 22" flat screen and the picture fits perfectly.

And speaking of gear whores… –Steve

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Is there any way we could obtain some ROFF space somewhere for pictures like this, even temporary space for a week or so?  I am completely unable to obtain APBF, and I would certainly like to look at some of the things being posted there. TL MC — "Where fishing is concerned, most anglers are basically manic excessives" http://www.mikeconnor.de – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I cut it in half (800×600) and posted it to APBF for those who are diagonally challenged. I just got a 22" flat screen and the picture fits perfectly. Paul

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Purty fly!! Willi

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Mike, I just pushed the files up to my site. 1600×1200, 384KB http://www.paul.goodwinweb.com/greenhilander.jpg 800×600, 69KB http://www.paul.goodwinweb.com/greenhilander800×600.jpg If there are photos posted to APBF in the future that you want to see send me a note and I’ll load them for you. Paul

Is there any way we could obtain some ROFF space somewhere for pictures like this, even temporary space for a week or so?  I am completely unable to

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After threatening to do it for a few years I sat down and tied a classic salmon fly. I tied a green highlander and posted a picture of it on APBF. There are a bunch of things I need to work on and I did take a couple of shortcuts but it’s not bad for a first try. This was a test for tying one on some antique blind eye salmon hooks I have. The picture is about 400KB and quite revealing. With the naked eye I thought the body was smooth. The naysayers of digital cameras might want to look at the detail that the camera captured.

Great photo of a true work of art! Thanks Paul. — "Of what service would militia be to you, when most probably you will not have a single musket in the State; for as arms are to be provided by Congress, they may or may not furnish them?" -Patrick Henry,  5 June 1788

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After 8< Paul, very, very nice. May I suggest that you modify the width of the jpeg to 500-600 pixels? This will load the pic on a 15 or 17 inch monitor and allow the viewer to see the complete fly in all of it’s glory w/o having to use sidebars to view.

I still have no way of viewing ABPF, but a 500 pixel width will cover less than 1/3 of my screen (it’s the resolution, not the size of the monitor that matters). Guess it doesn’t matter, since I can’t see it, but if I could I’d prefer bigger images and people can shrink them if they have less resolution, it’s impossible to make them bigger from smaller images.      - Ken

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After threatening to do it for a few years I sat down and tied a classic salmon fly. I tied a green highlander and posted a picture of it on APBF. There are a bunch of things I need to work on and I did take a couple of shortcuts but it’s not bad for a first try. This was a test for tying one on some antique blind eye salmon hooks I have. The picture is about 400KB and quite revealing. With the naked eye I thought the body was smooth. The naysayers of digital cameras might want to look at the detail that the camera captured.

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I think you might be missing the point.  You are not Orvis.  Orvis makes a lot of money off their products and they are pretty big as fishing companies go.  While YOU might not be able to make a living giving fishing instruction for free, Orvis COULD.  The question is whether it would be better off in the long run to give them free or not. … Don’t look now Jeff, but Orivs HAS been in the business for the long run for a very long time.  Their practices don’t seem to have hurt them a great deal. …

I completely agree.  I was just pointing out what I thought the *question* was, not the answer Regards, Jeff

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Wolfgang,    You don’t mean that, you know what happens when you turn a hobby into a profession don’t you? Ernie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ……guides, professional fly-dressers, ski-teachers, tennis and golf pros etc. Whores, one and all.  That’s what it means to do it for money.  Would that I could do so! Wolfgang who’s been giving it away for free for far too long.

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I charge people a pretty solid hourly rate to teach them fishing, casting and fly tying. It’s taken me 35 years to get the experience I have today and I went to considerable effort (and expense) to get the qualifications I hold. I put a value on my time (and a price)  … even if you don’t

Well, it’s taken me 40 years to get my experience, (I’m a slow learner), and I am always willing to help a newcomer with tying or fishing free of charge. Furthermore, all things considered, I feel I put a higher value on my time even though I don’t attatch a price tag to it. If you don’t understand that concept, then there’s no way I can explain it to you. George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"

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I charge people a pretty solid hourly rate to teach them fishing, casting and fly tying. Well, it’s taken me 40 years to get my experience, (I’m a slow learner), and I am always willing to help a newcomer with tying or fishing free of charge.

If I’m not mistaken Tony is a professional casting instructor. I wouldn’t charge anything for sharing what little I know about flyfishing, but it would be a cold day in hell before I set up a Unix lab gratis. — Ken Fortenberry

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If you don’t understand that concept, then there’s no way I can explain it to you.

That belongs on http://www.vandruff.com/art_converse.html <g. — Charlie…

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Very difficult subject this.  Tony is an independent angling professional, he writes a lot about it, and he also has some of the best instructor qualifications available, which are quite difficult to achieve, he has to live from it. He really has no other option than to charge for it, and as he is good, he charges more. It is not really sensible to compare what he does to Orvis

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In 14 hours, the EBAY auction for a Beautiful Hardy Marquis 6 Fly Fishing Reel – No Reserve – will be completed. Please check it out. You may see it here: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=141623991 Thanks!

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I am sick of this damn ad. Big Dale

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Me too. Bob Elliott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am sick of this damn ad. Big Dale

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Try http://www.four11.com. — Walter K. Prescott  100% Disabled/Retired U.S. Army Veteran "Always treat everyone the same way you wish to be treated." http://www.atlcon.net & http://www.mirabilis.com/950276 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone have the phone number / address for Tom Mann’s lures? I can’t find it anywhere, even http://www.tommann.com. Darren King — BreakPoint Outdoors Web Site: http://www.netaccess.on.ca/~breakpt Hello Darren, Here’s the info you requested. Mann’s Bait Company 604 State Docks Road Eufaula, AL  36027 334-687-5716 Incidentally, there is no connection between Tom Mann and Mann’s Bait Company.  That’s why you couldn’t find any info at Tom’s site. Athough he was the founder of Mann’s Bait Company back in the 60’s, he sold his interest in the company many years ago.   Hope the info helps. Best Regards,          Trent Roberson            Rx F Fish  For Your Good Health, Fly Fish URL=http://www.xnet.com/~rxffish

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Anyone have the phone number / address for Tom Mann’s lures? I can’t find it anywhere, even http://www.tommann.com. Darren King — BreakPoint Outdoors Web Site: http://www.netaccess.on.ca/~breakpt

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Anyone have the phone number / address for Tom Mann’s lures? I can’t find it anywhere, even http://www.tommann.com. Darren King — BreakPoint Outdoors Web Site: http://www.netaccess.on.ca/~breakpt

Hello Darren, Here’s the info you requested. Mann’s Bait Company 604 State Docks Road Eufaula, AL  36027 334-687-5716 Incidentally, there is no connection between Tom Mann and Mann’s Bait Company.  That’s why you couldn’t find any info at Tom’s site. Athough he was the founder of Mann’s Bait Company back in the 60’s, he sold his interest in the company many years ago.   Hope the info helps. Best Regards,          Trent Roberson            Rx F Fish  For Your Good Health, Fly Fish URL=http://www.xnet.com/~rxffish

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Thought you all might be interested in a new Fly Fishing Loop of websites. The loop is just getting started, but already has been well received. It’s called the: Fly Fishing Loop Located at: http://homepage.interaccess.com/~tsteele/FlyFishingLoop/ Any fly fishing related website can be in the Loop. This can include, personal home pages, commercial websites (such as a manufacturers with products or services that are fly fishing related), fly tying sites, fly fishing clubs, organizations, links pages, fly fishing publications or periodicals, fly fishing guides, fly fishing shops etc. If it is fly fishing related and has a website, it can be in the Loop. You can get more information, and sign-up online. It takes about 2 mins. Everything you need to be in the Loop will be emailed to you automatically, after you sign-up. I hope that will take a moment to visit the Loop’s home page. The loop is devoted to fly fishing and all things related to the pursuit of fish on a fly. It needs your support. Website that are in the Loop will get increased traffic from the Loop. Visitors to the Loop will be interested in one thing…Fly Fishing. For commercial sites and those in the trade, the benfits are obvious, you get exposure to a specific audience of FF visitors to the Loop. Personal sites, organizations and clubs will get increased website exposure in the Loop, and can use the loop to get their word out, to the right audience as well! The Loop also benfits from the diversity and range of content that the various members have on their sites. Throught the Loop you can navigate all member sites, easily. I hope you will consider joining the loop. Tight lines and light leaders, Thomas Steele The Steelhead Site http://steelheadsite.com

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Thought you all might be interested in a new Fly Fishing Loop of websites. The loop is just getting started, but already has been well received. It’s called the: Fly Fishing Loop Located at: http://homepage.interaccess.com/~tsteele/FlyFishingLoop/

Hi, Just tried and got no connection. Could you verify that the above is correct. Thanks. Michael — Mit der Dummheit kampfen Gotter selbst vergebens -Schiller-

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Just tried and got no connection. Could you verify that the above is correct.

Works for me … must have been server trouble. Looks very cool and is a neat concept. Thomas Steele The Steelhead Site

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I’ll be in Georgia for 6 days (visiting in-laws…) and would love an excuse to get out for a spell. They live near Columbus, but I generally fish only in Eastern Sierra (Northern California). Any suggestions? A good fly shop to call? Thanks! — Fish more, Fret less…

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I’ll be in Georgia for 6 days (visiting in-laws…)

In that part of Georgia you’ll only find warmwater fishing. Callway Gardens at Pine Mountain offers some great float tube fishing for large bream and bass. If you can get up to Atlanta, we have the Hooch; and if you have time to get into the mountains, there are too many opportunities to list here. Let me know more about your plans — maybe I can be of more assistance. — Visit Dave Teffeteller’s Fly Fishing Guides Home Page http://www.olfart.com

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Am going to a conference near Salida, CO.  Does anyone have some good recommendations for fishing the Arkansas? Access points. Fly selections. Current river conditions. Thanks for the help!

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My son and I fished the Arkansas regularly for years.  We were just by there in late August.  The river was still very high and just about unfishable.  With the heavy late runoff and daily thunderstorms the Twin Lakes Resevoirs needed daily relief.  However we did manage to take about 6 in the 30 min we stopped (just along the shore line).  There are 4 flies that seemed to work well.  Olive Elk Hair Caddis (EHC), Brown Stonefly Nymphs, Renegade, and sometimes a Muddler.  The best way to fish this river (almost exclusively browns) is to wade down the middle and fish both banks.  The browns are frequently right up against the shore line in 4-6 inches of water.  Also fish the riffles.  I’m sure at this time of year they mistake the EHCs for hoppers.  The stoneflys should be fished into the shoreline and allow the current to pull them away.  They will chase them.  In very early October I had a 30 fish morning using renegades fished wet (just below the surface in the seams between fast and slow water).  The "Public Lands" designation as indicated by some new signs appears to extend from just outside of town down to the bridge at Wellsville.  This was private and you should verify it.  This is special regulaltion water (flies and lures only, 2 fish per day, 16 inch minimum.) Good luck, If the water flow is 750cfs or less it should be great. Bill A.

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Want information on good trails to mountain lakes with decent fishing in N. Calif  or S. Oregon. (Prefer lakes to rivers/creeks.) Would like to hike in about 5 not-to-strenuous mile, set up camp on a lake and day-hike 1-2 miles to other lakes nearby over period of week in early-mid September. Elevation for most of trip, particularly where camping, needs to be no more than 8,500 because one of group gets atlitude sickness. Any suggestions?

The northern coastal ranges of California (Klamaths, Trinity Alps, etc.) have a lot of good lakes.  The elevations are all fairly low, fish are generally bigger than Sierra because of longer growing season.  I know a few lakes with 20+ inch brown trout (but they will remain unnamed). Weather should still be pretty good there in mid-September.  

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In the early 60’s I spent time at Cliff Lake and Lower Wright Lake in the Marble Mountain wilderness.  We were packed in (I was 9 and 10 at the times) and spent two weeks at each lake.  Both are reasonably close to trailheads and provide good jumping off spots to other lakes.   My most memorable fishing experinece occured at Lower Wright Lake.  I was first down the trail, flyrod in hand, already rigged, ready to cast.  I false casted a number of times to get 30 or so feet of line out and dropped the fly onto the lake.  The next thing I knew my rod was bent, the line was being pulled out of the reel, and the giant trout was headed for some brush 100′ away.  I paniced, pulled back on the rod to stop his headlong flight, and the leader snapped.  Luckily the rest of the family was strung out on the trail descending to the lake so my story about "the one that got away" has a viable place in our family myth structure.   Another beautiful, accessible area is the Lakes Basin Area behind Sierra Buttes off Hwy 49 on Gold Lake Road.  It’s more crowded because the road is closer to the backcountry.  Another pretty area is one bounded by Bowman Lake on the north and Grouse Ridge road on the south off of HWY 20 accessed from Interstate 80 at Emigrant Gap.  Hope this helps.  Have fun.   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Want information on good trails to mountain lakes with decent fishing in N. Calif  or S. Oregon. (Prefer lakes to rivers/creeks.) Would like to

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Want information on good trails to mountain lakes with decent fishing in N. Calif  or S. Oregon. (Prefer lakes to rivers/creeks.) Would like to hike in about 5 not-to-strenuous mile, set up camp on a lake and day-hike 1-2 miles to other lakes nearby over period of week in early-mid September. Elevation for most of trip, particularly where camping, needs to be no more than 8,500 because one of group gets atlitude sickness. Any suggestions?

I used to live up in Mammoth Lakes and worked at a place on the June Lake loop.  There are several good lakes for fishing on the June Lake loop – June Lake, Gull Lake, Silver Lake, Grant lake.  Also there are some lakes you can hike to from Silver Lake.  The trailhead is near Silver Lake resort – ask at the store.  Gem Lake is easily reached within a few hours and the fishing is supposed to be good.  I’m not sure about the altitude – I think Silver Lake is at 7000 feet. Good luck!

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Want information on good trails to mountain lakes with decent fishing in N. Calif  or S. Oregon. (Prefer lakes to rivers/creeks.) I used to live up in Mammoth Lakes and worked at a place on the June Lake loop.  There are several good lakes for fishing on the June Lake loop

Is Mammoth lakes in Northern California?  I always thought of this as Central CA.

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(Jwoodling1) writes: Is Mammoth lakes in Northern California?  I always thought of this as Central CA.

If you have a state road map, locate Madera.  It’s latitude is supposed to be half the state’s latitude.  ML is just slightly North, but owing to the fact that large portions of the Owens Valley and the areas around ML (Get the Inyo National Forest map) are owned by Los Angeles DWP (Dept. of Water and Power) and the prominence of Mammoth as LA as a destination ski area, Mammoth might in semantic principle be considered a part of LA. Central?  sure. When people bring up (it’s an FAQ on the net) the issue of dividing the State (N-S, N-C-S), my proposal is upper and lower:  Lower is all areas below 8K ft., and I claim all areas above 8k ft. I would not worry about it.  It’s just an adjective.

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Can anyone give me any advise re using float tubes for fishing ? Anyone with any experiences pro or con would be appreciated. Thanks, Ron Ronald W Becker California " looking here and there for an interesting sight or two"

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Can anyone give me any advise re using float tubes for fishing ? Anyone with any experiences pro or con would be appreciated. Thanks, Ron

    My advise, as both a warm and cold water tuber, is to borrow one and fish the waters where you will want to spend most of your time. Find out as cheaply as possable if it is for you. Ask your fishing buddies or the tubers that you see at your lake. Folks love to share their experiences!     You will hear that one type of geer is best or that you will need such and such a thing, unless you have money to burn go slow. Some of the young guys like to use big hard fins that would kill me. So what is perfect for others is not always right for you. I started out with the cheapest, bare bones tube that I could find. Fished it for large mouth bass in warm water for a spring/summer and was quite happy with what I could do with it. So, the next spring I took it up into the mountains, 10,000 feet, high and cold. Found out that I needed more stuff, neophrene waiders, thermals, and an air pump. My point is, to not buy everything that you think that you could possiably ever need when you start. Grow into it.     Also, after a couple tubes, I found that the delux, high priced models, didn’t really improve the experience for me and infact made it somewhat more difficult because I tended to fill up all the pockets with stuff and then had to carry/kick the added weight. Though for equipment junkies the added features is just great.      Tubes are great in my opinion, and if you think that you are interested in the quiet, solitude, control, and exercise, go for it! brian

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Can anyone give me any advise re using float tubes for fishing ? Anyone with any experiences pro or con would be appreciated. Thanks, Ron

I was thinking of picking up a tube for river and pond fishing around Central Ohio late this summer, but decided on what is known as a kickboat.  If you don’t know, a kickboat is generally a small dual-pontoon type craft, with a fixed seat between the two pontoons.  Advantanges over tubes are that they are more stable, more comfortable, offer more storage, and you can add oar kits and even trolling motors to some.  Disadvantages are that they are slightly bigger, take more time to assemble, and are generally more expensive. I bought a J&R Outfitters Kingfisher III.  It’s a nice boat: the length is about 9′, very well constructed, and assembles very quickly.  I was also able to fit it in the back of my Eagle Talon!  I purchased mine with the optional oar kit (this is a fixed-oar kit with a kick bar to rest your feet), and a rear storage/cooler rack (will support up to 50 pounds).  The boat supports a total of 450 pounds, and again, is very stable.  I plan to buy the trolling motor when it’s ready in January. Again, they are expensive (I paid a total of 600.00 for the boat, oar kit, and storage rack, and the trolling motor kit will run 400.00), but I think they are better than tubes for a couple of reasons: one, you get a fixed seat with backrest and armrests. Secondly, you can get an oar kit, which is much better than kick-fins in most occassions.  Third, they hold more gear.  Lastly, you can keep your butt dry and not necessarily need waders!  They take a little while to assemble if you don’t put them together before leaving home (mine takes about 20 minutes including the 10 it takes to inflate the pontoons with a hand pump), and are heavy to lug around (although mine is a deluxe: you can get smaller, less expensive units that also weigh less), but I do like mine.   It was great catching the largest smallmouth I’ve ever caught (a little over 4 pounds) on it’s maden voyage! In all honesty, I’ll probably buy a tube this spring for the times I don’t need to cover a lot of water!

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: Can anyone give me any advise re using float tubes for fishing ? : Anyone with any experiences pro or con would be appreciated. : Thanks, Ron : Ronald W Becker : California : " looking here and there for an interesting sight or two"         Hey Ron,         Don’t use them in shark infested waters or in lakes with six foot snappin turtles!! Seriously, I’ve been fly fishing out of one for 2 years and love it. If fly fishing, I recomend at least an 8 ft rod. Also pisses the landlocked guys off when you haul in a trophy right out of their casting range!! Kinda fun!                                         dale — End of network mail

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Can anyone give me any advise re using float tubes for fishing ?

I would like to try this. But I don’t feel comfortable flowing down the river in a tube with myself somewhat tangled in it.  Can someone provide some statistics on the safety issue.  Thanks, Simon  

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