Just thought I’d post this for a friend, hopefully this is allowed by all of you. She is selling her fly fishing ranch along with all her fly shop inventory. If any of you are interested take a look here; http://www.blackfireflyfishing.com Thanks!!
Just thought I’d post this for a friend, hopefully this is allowed by all of you. She is selling her fly fishing ranch along with all her fly shop inventory. If any of you are interested take a look here; http://www.blackfireflyfishing.com
Wolfgang workin in a coal mine, goin down down down
helping? …you should rename the post: "helping rip-off the ignorant"…the prices are a joke,,she must be giving you a cut of the hefty product..id offer you 30cents on the dollar..like any other "liquidation"…so go play in the middle of the River..your bargain aint welcome here bubbye
Just thought I’d post this for a friend, hopefully this is allowed by all of you. She is selling her fly fishing ranch along with all her fly shop inventory. If any of you are interested take a look here; http://www.blackfireflyfishing.com Wolfgang workin in a coal mine, goin down down down
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – very nice indeed. the conditions you describe are mirrored here in the NC mountains at this time. one question willi, what do you grease the tippet with? With the atmosphere around here lately, I’m pretty sure you don’t want to know. Willi
i guess i should have been clearer….. a floatant or sinkant? …could care less about the brand names… walt — Walter G. Winter Ezflyfish.com: http://www.ezflyfish.com Blue Ridge Book Gallery: http://users.boone.net/wgw/brbg.html
Autumn is my favorite time of the year in Colorado. The leaves are turning, the nights are cool but the days are warm, the tourists are gone, the rivers are low, clear and cool, and the fish are hungry. (snip) nice little vignette, troutmeister. wayno
It is a wonderful time of the year. Hopefully, Sir Louie and I will experience the same in a Grand River Autumn. Peter
Autumn is my favorite time of the year in Colorado. The leaves are turning, the nights are cool but the days are warm, the tourists are gone, the rivers are low, clear and cool, and the fish are hungry.
Hungry and moody. I spent two hours yesterday afternoon on the river Willi and I call our home water. I was dazzled by the shimmering yellow aspen trees, and saddened by the feeling that another fine season of fishing is winding to a close. During my first hour on the water, I hooked 17 fine fish; every spot that looked like it may have EVER held a fish yielded one. About the time I started to feel like I was a pretty talented fisherman, the action ceased. I used every trick in the book to catch another five fish in two more hours. Sheesh.
Petah Charles writes: It is a wonderful time of the year. Hopefully, Sir Louie and I will experience the same in a Grand River Autumn. Peter
What? You aren’t guarantying fine weather? Well, if we get rained out (muddy waters and all), Joanne, Joanne and I will sit around a bottle of single malt and shoot the breeze. (Looking forward to it) Dave
i guess i should have been clearer….. a floatant or sinkant? …could care less about the brand names…
When fish have moved into shallow feeding areas and are feeding on small stuff ie midges, bwo’s etc. I use a floatant on the leader up until the last few inches. If there isn’t too much glare, you can follow the floating tippet and often see a flash from the fish taking the fly or see the tippet move with a take. If there is too much glare, I’ll use a very small smear of florescent biostrike? (a putty like stuff)to give me something to follow. Takes are generally very subtle when fish are feeding on this small stuff. I use quill bodied flies quite a bit and if the quills are not coated with cement, they absorb water and sink well. Willi
Autumn’s soft, midday light that has lost its summer intensity, allows good fish to move into very shallow pockets of water with just enough current to hide them [snip] . Fights seem a bit more determined and the colors a bit more intense.
I drove over to your fine state a week ago for the first time, while I only fished the South Platte near Deckers and the eleven mile canyon, I managed to find a little solitude and hook some of your fine colorado fish with 20 and 22 BWO’s. I can’t tell you how great it was to be fishing again and while I’m sure there are better streams in CO than the So. Platte but for two days it was heaven to me. Great post and you are a lucky man to live in such a beautiful place. — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas Before you buy.
I like those warm days following a sub-freezing night when the fishing doesn’t start picking up until 11:00am, and then it’s over by 4:00pm. [good stuff snipped]
Great post, rw. Thanks for the imagery. You gotta love the crisp weather of the mountains in fall. –Steve
When fish have moved into shallow feeding areas and are feeding on small stuff ie midges, bwo’s etc. I use a floatant on the leader up until the last few inches. If there isn’t too much glare, you can follow the floating tippet and often see a flash from the fish taking the fly or see the tippet move with a take. If there is too much glare, I’ll use a very small smear of florescent biostrike? (a putty like stuff)to give me something to follow. Takes are generally very subtle when fish are feeding on this small stuff. I use quill bodied flies quite a bit and if the quills are not coated with cement, they absorb water and sink well. Willi
gotcha….. I’ve tried floatant on my leaders and tippet for small midge fishing. I’m not sure if it helps or not but I do know that when I "mud" the tippet for emergers, very small nymphs, or wets I seem to get more takes. I also like to keep a tight line fishing this style with a little twitch every few seconds. Takes are generally sound with that style and for c/r the hook is usually in the mouth versus deeper in the throat or gills. I usually have a long leader/tippet, 12′ +, when fishing this way. report: for all you roffians headed’ this way, the delayed harvest rivers have been stocked for the fall/winter fishing. The Watauga is running low, we can’t seem to shake this drought. –Walt — Walter G. Winter Ezflyfish.com: http://www.ezflyfish.com Blue Ridge Book Gallery: http://users.boone.net/wgw/brbg.html
The Watauga is running low, we can’t seem to shake this drought.
Supposed to rain this weekend up by Robbinsville (Forty effect I presume), maybe you’ll get some too. — Charlie…
I drove over to your fine state a week ago for the first time, while I only fished the South Platte near Deckers and the eleven mile canyon, I managed to find a little solitude and hook some of your fine colorado fish with 20 and 22 BWO’s. I can’t tell you how great it was to be fishing again and while I’m sure there are better streams in CO than the So. Platte but for two days it was heaven to me.
The Platte is/was a fine river. It holds many good fish. However, with its proximity to Denver and Colorado Springs it is the heaviest fished river in the state. The section around Deckers has the reputation of being a very difficult river, especially for people fishing it the first time. Congrats on having success. Willi
Autumn is my favorite time of the year in Colorado. The leaves are turning, the nights are cool but the days are warm, the tourists are gone, the rivers are low, clear and cool, and the fish are hungry. Autumn’s soft, midday light that has lost its summer intensity, allows good fish to move into very shallow pockets of water with just enough current to hide them. Large fish wait in water barely deep enough to cover their backs to feed most efficiently on the small emerging bugs. A careless wade sends the fish shooting back into the pools leaving wakes of water in their path. A tiny fly on a long, light, greased leader is the key. A cast several feet above the lie lets the fly sink just enough to interest the fish. No weight, no indicator. Just a flash in the shallow water or the nudge of the floating tippet. Takes are hard and confident and the pressure from the strike sends the fish airborn. Fights seem a bit more determined and the colors a bit more intense. Willi
Autumn is my favorite time of the year in Colorado. The leaves are turning, the nights are cool but the days are warm, the tourists are gone, the rivers are low, clear and cool, and the fish are hungry.
(snip) nice little vignette, troutmeister. wayno
Autumn is my favorite time of the year in Colorado. The leaves are turning, the nights are cool but the days are warm, the tourists are gone, the rivers are low, clear and cool, and the fish are hungry. (snip) nice little vignette, troutmeister. wayno
very nice indeed. the conditions you describe are mirrored here in the NC mountains at this time. one question willi, what do you grease the tippet with? walt — Walter G. Winter Ezflyfish.com: http://www.ezflyfish.com Blue Ridge Book Gallery: http://users.boone.net/wgw/brbg.html
Willie wrote;Autumn is my favorite time of the year in Colorado. The leaves are turning, the nights are cool but the days are warm, the tourists are gone, the rivers are low, clear and cool, and the fish are hungry.
This sounds like a fairy tale to me. I don’t think there will be an Autum in Texas this year…mabye in January. It is still in the mid 90’s and I have a hard time calling that Autumn. Big Dale
very nice indeed. the conditions you describe are mirrored here in the NC mountains at this time. one question willi, what do you grease the tippet with?
With the atmosphere around here lately, I’m pretty sure you don’t want to know. Willi
Autumn is my favorite time of the year in Colorado. The leaves are turning, the nights are cool but the days are warm, the tourists are gone, the rivers are low, clear and cool, and the fish are hungry.
That sounds like the Stanley area, Willi, but our Autumn probably comes earlier than yours. The good Autumn fishing here is at about 7000 feet. I like those warm days following a sub-freezing night when the fishing doesn’t start picking up until 11:00am, and then it’s over by 4:00pm. There are just enough hoppers to keep fish looking at the surface, but the serious fish-catching is done with common nymphs — the perfect setup for a "hopper/dropper" rig. The water is skinny and the fish are concentrated in holes. This is easy fishing, once you get there. I can roll out of bed late, build a fire, make coffee and bacon and eggs, and take my time planning the trip. Then I can come home in daylight. Perfect. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/
one question willi, what do you grease the tippet with? With the atmosphere around here lately, I’m pretty sure you don’t want to know.
Red Mucilin works a lot better than G*** for greasing tippets. — Ken Fortenberry
Mine–admittedly just for ordinary shoes–are made of cork. Maybe traditional ones aren’t durable enough for repeated soaking and drying out.
Need Portuguese cork from a good rod-building site. — fly-tyin’, drift-boat-rowin’, dutch-oven-cookin’, spring-crick-fishin’ western mountain mamas who yodel in the throes of passion.com
Does anyone know of a good orthopedic wading boot? I refuse to give up wading streams because I can’t walk. More importantly, which one of you
Custom orthotics are nowadays made of resin. You just put them in your wading boots. — | Carlsbad Springs, Ottawa, Canada |
Be careful with insurance. As we all know, some generic substitutions are fine (for example, I’ve heard that Danish and Finnish nude masseuses are clinically equivalent to Swedish masseuses), but some HMOs will try to foist masseuses from Hungary of the Czech Republic, as to which there is insufficient research to justify it medically. I propose a double-blind test: you in a dark room with nude masseuses of various nationalities, including Canadians as a control, and the guy opening the door and letting them in wearing earplugs so he can’t hear the accents. Let me know how it turns out or if you need any volunteers to obtain a more statistically relevant sample. Also, more seriously, go get a second opinion on this stuff. Podiatrists are great in their specialty, but as Dirty Harry Callahan says, "A man’s got to know his limitations." — fly-tyin’, drift-boat-rowin’, dutch-oven-cookin’, spring-crick-fishin’ western mountain mamas who yodel in the throes of passion.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ll be lookin’ to all this stuff via the ‘net and my insurance policy. I like the idea of the Swedish therapy most. You think insurance will cover that as well?
I thought you was a shrink Doc? What you got a foot fetish too? I’ll be lookin’ to all this stuff via the ‘net and my insurance policy. I like the idea of the Swedish therapy most. You think insurance will cover that as well? Thanks Chris
— I used to be a shrink, but now I look at my feet all the time, so hence the expertise. Actually, I looked this stuff up because I was concerned and put together my post based upon my research findings. If your insurance company does not cover well accepted medically necessary naked Swedish massage, then send a complaint to the insurance commission of your state. Geesh, what are these mangled care, OOPS, I mean managed care companies coming to anyway? — Padishar Creel "What do we live for if it is not to make life less difficult to each other." – George Eliot
Aw heck JR, it was worth a shot….besides Ope knows I wish him the best, even if I don’t get all his goodies. 
FWIW, I have diabetes too, but mine can be controlled merely by watching my diet (can you say Dr Atkins?) and excersize. Frank (ain’t even *close* to bein’ a gear ho’) Church – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Oh, man. What a brazen attempt to win the all-time, all-universe Gear Whore title. JR — To reply, remove the Qs from the address above Jeez Ope, I’m sorry to hear of your multiple maladies. I’m sure at your young age you can beat them all handily, but just in case you expire, kin I have your rod collection? [might as well throw in all your flies too] <bseg Frank (I’m all heart) Church
I paid a visit to a podiatrist to day and was diagnosed as possibly havin’ one or more of 4 ailments/conditions, or all of them at once: Lime’s Disease, Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome, Plantars Fasciitis, and diabetes.
<snipped while being sad —- G&F, I am sorry to hear about these things especially the last one. However, the good news is that there has been some serious progress in the treatment of diabetes, including reactivating a person’s pancreas. I read somewhere that they are experimenting implanting animal pancreatic tissue for humans. As to your other ailments, Lime’s disease goes away when you stop using Limes in tequila and substitute lemons. (Of course, you may have meant Lyme’s disease and that responds pretty well to broad spectrum anti-biotics). Tarsal on the other hand responds poorly to therapy because the flexor retinaculum cannot stretch very much. As the pressure increases in the Tarsal Tunnel, the nerve is the most sensitive to the pressure and is squeezed against the Flexor Retinaculum. This causes dysfunction of the nerve leading to the symptoms of Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome. Since you have to walk you may be required to re-learn how to motor around without inflaming the nerve. Orthotics may be suggested to relieve the stretching of the nerve. A cortisone injection may give some temporary relief of symptoms. Surgery is the last resort, but it enjoys a pretty good reputation of success. Plantar fasciitis is usually caused by a biomechanical imbalance resulting in tension along the plantar fascia and may be related your Tarsal issue. Treatment consists of medial arch support, anti-inflammatory medications, ice massage and stretching. Corticosteroid injections and casting may also be tried. Surgical fasciotomy should be reserved for use in patients in whom conservative measures have failed despite correction of biomechanical abnormalities. Additional treatments that have proved effective in all of these conditions, include *daily* swedish massage by several naked swedish ladies (substitutes may be appropriate, but first talk to your Doctor before introducing other nationalities). —- Hope this helps…. —- Padishar Creel, health expert to the recently deceased.
Oh, man. What a brazen attempt to win the all-time, all-universe Gear Whore title. JR — To reply, remove the Qs from the address above – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jeez Ope, I’m sorry to hear of your multiple maladies. I’m sure at your young age you can beat them all handily, but just in case you expire, kin I have your rod collection? [might as well throw in all your flies too] <bseg Frank (I’m all heart) Church
Sorry to hear about your problems. Get some answers quick about the "possibilities". My mom had diabetes. Terrible disease, but as Chris says, there are some much better treatments than in the past. Surprised the podiatrist didn’t suggest inserts, or is this not possible? Mine–admittedly just for ordinary shoes–are made of cork. Maybe traditional ones aren’t durable enough for repeated soaking and drying out. Might want to look into it though. I’m with you though, on not giving up wading rivers. Some time ago there was a thread about rods carriers (as in spear carriers, as in flyfishing caddies). If I ever get to where I can’t wade rivers, I hope I’m rich enough to hire a 6′6" 300 lb. fellow to carry me piggyback through my favorite steelhead runs. Hang in there. JR — To reply, remove the Qs from the address above – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I paid a visit to a podiatrist to day and was diagnosed as possibly havin’ one or more of 4 ailments/conditions, or all of them at once: Lime’s Disease, Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome, Plantars Fasciitis, and diabetes.
I paid a visit to a podiatrist to day and was diagnosed as possibly havin’ one or more of 4 ailments/conditions, or all of them at once: Lime’s Disease, Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome, Plantars Fasciitis, and diabetes. Anyone else experience this type of foot ailment?
Don’t know about any of the others, but I have plantar fasciitis, and so does my sister. Hurts like hell some mornings. But I can tell you, cortisone injections work wonders for the short term, and orthotics work great for the long run. My right foot was really bothering me, and the podiatrist tinkered with my orthotic for a while and got it fine tuned for me, and it’s been fine ever since. Now my left foot is acting up, one of these days I need to get off my ass and go in and have him work in it too. Especially with hunting season open now — it’s much more fun to put in the miles over hill and dale when my feet aren’t killing me. Kevin
Since you were first to ask, yes you may. However, you will have to share them with my creditors, as my fly gear is all I actually own. All my other toys are debt laden! Opie –Planning for the Past–
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jeez Ope, I’m sorry to hear of your multiple maladies. I’m sure at your young age you can beat them all handily, but just in case you expire, kin I have your rod collection? [might as well throw in all your flies too] <bseg Frank (I’m all heart) Church I paid a visit to a podiatrist to day and was diagnosed as possibly havin’ one or more of 4 ailments/conditions, or all of them at once: Lime’s Disease, Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome, Plantars Fasciitis, and diabetes. Does anyone know of a good orthopedic wading boot? I refuse to give up wading streams because I can’t walk. More importantly, which one of you surly bastards is practicing his Voodoo on me? Shit like this don’t happen fer no reason, ya know. Dave, I apologize; now please, remove the pins from that doll. Damn the luck! Just when I thought I was getting over my years of bodily abuse, due to over indulgence in drugs and alcohol, I find out that my warranty (according to the Doc) ran out at 40. Two years past warranty and I’m ready for the scrap yard! Anyone else experience this type of foot ailment? Opie –Planning for the Past, hopin’ for a future–
I thought you was a shrink Doc? What you got a foot fetish too? I’ll be lookin’ to all this stuff via the ‘net and my insurance policy. I like the idea of the Swedish therapy most. You think insurance will cover that as well? Thanks Chris Opie
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I paid a visit to a podiatrist to day and was diagnosed as possibly havin’ one or more of 4 ailments/conditions, or all of them at once: Lime’s Disease, Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome, Plantars Fasciitis, and diabetes. <snipped while being sad —- G&F, I am sorry to hear about these things especially the last one. However, the good news is that there has been some serious progress in the treatment of diabetes, including reactivating a person’s pancreas. I read somewhere that they are experimenting implanting animal pancreatic tissue for humans. As to your other ailments, Lime’s disease goes away when you stop using Limes in tequila and substitute lemons. (Of course, you may have meant Lyme’s disease and that responds pretty well to broad spectrum anti-biotics). Tarsal on the other hand responds poorly to therapy because the flexor retinaculum cannot stretch very much. As the pressure increases in the Tarsal Tunnel, the nerve is the most sensitive to the pressure and is squeezed against the Flexor Retinaculum. This causes dysfunction of the nerve leading to the symptoms of Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome. Since you have to walk you may be required to re-learn how to motor around without inflaming the nerve. Orthotics may be suggested to relieve the stretching of the nerve. A cortisone injection may give some temporary relief of symptoms. Surgery is the last resort, but it enjoys a pretty good reputation of success. Plantar fasciitis is usually caused by a biomechanical imbalance resulting in tension along the plantar fascia and may be related your Tarsal issue. Treatment consists of medial arch support, anti-inflammatory medications, ice massage and stretching. Corticosteroid injections and casting may also be tried. Surgical fasciotomy should be reserved for use in patients in whom conservative measures have failed despite correction of biomechanical abnormalities. Additional treatments that have proved effective in all of these conditions, include *daily* swedish massage by several naked swedish ladies (substitutes may be appropriate, but first talk to your Doctor before introducing other nationalities). —- Hope this helps…. —- Padishar Creel, health expert to the recently deceased.
I will check into what you have said, David. Thanks for you help and kind words! Opie –Eatin’ Crow, pigeon, and any other foul (pun intended) critter I happen upon–
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Opie I didn’t do it. I wouldn’t wish that shit on anyone. Just one suggestion, while you are on a health kick, have a limpid panel test done, and a metabolic panel as well; get your own copies of the test results; learn what the numbers mean; manage accordingly. Most of this shit is controllable via what you put in and do to yourself. Dave I paid a visit to a podiatrist to day and was diagnosed as possibly havin’ one or more of 4 ailments/conditions, or all of them at once: Lime’s Disease, Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome, Plantars Fasciitis, and diabetes. Does anyone know of a good orthopedic wading boot? I refuse to give up wading streams because I can’t walk. More importantly, which one of you surly bastards is practicing his Voodoo on me? Shit like this don’t happen fer no reason, ya know. Dave, I apologize; now please, remove the pins from that doll. Damn the luck! Just when I thought I was getting over my years of bodily abuse, due to over indulgence in drugs and alcohol, I find out that my warranty (according to the Doc) ran out at 40. Two years past warranty and I’m ready for the scrap yard! Anyone else experience this type of foot ailment? Opie –Planning for the Past, hopin’ for a future–
Yes, I intend to see other doctors concerning the *Lyme’s* (not Lime’s) Disease and diabetes. However, I think I’ll stick with the foot doc for the others. this is my first visit to a doc since my back surgeries in ‘92 & ‘93. Just when you think thing can’t get worse, one misspells a word that could have come back to bite him in the ass. But Nooooo, Dave S. takes the high road and actually offers kind words and good advise. It’s hard to figure some people out (I’m talking about myself now!). Thanks for the suggestion Tom! Opie –Planning for the Past–
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Why not go to a *real* doc (or a series of them) and get another opinion(s)? Tom I paid a visit to a podiatrist to day and was diagnosed as possibly havin’ one or more of 4 ailments/conditions, or all of them at once: Lime’s Disease, Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome, Plantars Fasciitis, and diabetes. Does anyone know of a good orthopedic wading boot? I refuse to give up wading streams because I can’t walk. More importantly, which one of you surly bastards is practicing his Voodoo on me? Shit like this don’t happen fer no reason, ya know. Dave, I apologize; now please, remove the pins from that doll. Damn the luck! Just when I thought I was getting over my years of bodily abuse, due to over indulgence in drugs and alcohol, I find out that my warranty (according to the Doc) ran out at 40. Two years past warranty and I’m ready for the scrap yard! Anyone else experience this type of foot ailment? Opie –Planning for the Past, hopin’ for a future–
Why not go to a *real* doc (or a series of them) and get another opinion(s)? Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I paid a visit to a podiatrist to day and was diagnosed as possibly havin’ one or more of 4 ailments/conditions, or all of them at once: Lime’s Disease, Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome, Plantars Fasciitis, and diabetes. Does anyone know of a good orthopedic wading boot? I refuse to give up wading streams because I can’t walk. More importantly, which one of you surly bastards is practicing his Voodoo on me? Shit like this don’t happen fer no reason, ya know. Dave, I apologize; now please, remove the pins from that doll. Damn the luck! Just when I thought I was getting over my years of bodily abuse, due to over indulgence in drugs and alcohol, I find out that my warranty (according to the Doc) ran out at 40. Two years past warranty and I’m ready for the scrap yard! Anyone else experience this type of foot ailment? Opie –Planning for the Past, hopin’ for a future–
Jeez Ope, I’m sorry to hear of your multiple maladies. I’m sure at your young age you can beat them all handily, but just in case you expire, kin I have your rod collection? [might as well throw in all your flies too] <bseg Frank (I’m all heart) Church – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I paid a visit to a podiatrist to day and was diagnosed as possibly havin’ one or more of 4 ailments/conditions, or all of them at once: Lime’s Disease, Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome, Plantars Fasciitis, and diabetes. Does anyone know of a good orthopedic wading boot? I refuse to give up wading streams because I can’t walk. More importantly, which one of you surly bastards is practicing his Voodoo on me? Shit like this don’t happen fer no reason, ya know. Dave, I apologize; now please, remove the pins from that doll. Damn the luck! Just when I thought I was getting over my years of bodily abuse, due to over indulgence in drugs and alcohol, I find out that my warranty (according to the Doc) ran out at 40. Two years past warranty and I’m ready for the scrap yard! Anyone else experience this type of foot ailment? Opie –Planning for the Past, hopin’ for a future–
Opie I didn’t do it. I wouldn’t wish that shit on anyone. Just one suggestion, while you are on a health kick, have a limpid panel test done, and a metabolic panel as well; get your own copies of the test results; learn what the numbers mean; manage accordingly. Most of this shit is controllable via what you put in and do to yourself. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I paid a visit to a podiatrist to day and was diagnosed as possibly havin’ one or more of 4 ailments/conditions, or all of them at once: Lime’s Disease, Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome, Plantars Fasciitis, and diabetes. Does anyone know of a good orthopedic wading boot? I refuse to give up wading streams because I can’t walk. More importantly, which one of you surly bastards is practicing his Voodoo on me? Shit like this don’t happen fer no reason, ya know. Dave, I apologize; now please, remove the pins from that doll. Damn the luck! Just when I thought I was getting over my years of bodily abuse, due to over indulgence in drugs and alcohol, I find out that my warranty (according to the Doc) ran out at 40. Two years past warranty and I’m ready for the scrap yard! Anyone else experience this type of foot ailment? Opie –Planning for the Past, hopin’ for a future–
I paid a visit to a podiatrist to day and was diagnosed as possibly havin’ one or more of 4 ailments/conditions, or all of them at once: Lime’s Disease, Tarsal Tunnel Syndrome, Plantars Fasciitis, and diabetes. Does anyone know of a good orthopedic wading boot? I refuse to give up wading streams because I can’t walk. More importantly, which one of you surly bastards is practicing his Voodoo on me? Shit like this don’t happen fer no reason, ya know. Dave, I apologize; now please, remove the pins from that doll. Damn the luck! Just when I thought I was getting over my years of bodily abuse, due to over indulgence in drugs and alcohol, I find out that my warranty (according to the Doc) ran out at 40. Two years past warranty and I’m ready for the scrap yard! Anyone else experience this type of foot ailment? Opie –Planning for the Past, hopin’ for a future–
If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether ? — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"
If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether ?
Would it be edible ? — Ken Fortenberry
If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether
Certainly C&R, but I just got my smoker!!! Fish is brain food!! JE
If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether ? — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"
depends big guy….your last foray into robotics had quite a few bugs waldo
If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether ? Tim Walker
Well Moe Timwalker, Sooner or later I figured you’d have to ask that question or a variant thereof. If we could develop virtual reality that plugged directly into our brains and appeared indistinguishable from "reality" would you give up living "normally"? Would you believe such a thing were possible eventually? Or would you just commit suicide if such a thing were ever developed? Do you believe in the existence of a spirit inside living (or even inanimate) things? If we could develop a computer that was powerful enough to exceed the human brain in all aspects, would it have a soul? Do we have souls? You are asking a question that is too deep for anyone to reply in a satisfactory manner on a newsgroup. The responses will just end up being fodder in a feeding frenzy like so much food pellets being thrown into a pond full of hatchery trout(*). Mu Young Lee Ann Arbor, MI USA (*)I have seen this at Kananaskis Lodge in Alberta. The old guy with the feed pail from the gift shop walks out to the articifial pond. Before he even chucks his first handful of fish chow, all the rainbow trout begin violently jockeying for position.
If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether ?
If I could develop a robotic version of your wife, that would act very much like your real wife, but that would never nag you about the time you spend fishing, would you ever go home? — something bogus to avoid spam)
If grasshoppers had machine-guns, would the birds fuck with them? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether ? — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"
anyone truly interested in this sort of question would do well to read Phillip K. Dick’s brillant sci-fi novel "Do Android’s Dream of Electric Sheep", the book that "Blade Runner" was based upon. But that movie struck me as warm pablum after the biting ambiguity of PK Dick. Ralphbot (who may or may not have a soul) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether ? — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"
If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether
That’s all we need now,a Stepford trout. Ah, can we fish them with Walt’s
If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether ?
Would there be little robotic birds and bugs and stuff? And maybe a robotic Ranger too? — Charlie…
If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether
Only if it was mandatory catch and release. A robotic trout is too valuable to catch only once. :-) - Ken — "To listen to some devout people, one would imagine that God never laughs." – Ghose Aurobindo
Ken Janik wrote If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether Only if it was mandatory catch and release. A robotic trout is too valuable to catch only once. :-)
Unfortunately, if T-bone is to be believed, the C&R’d robots wouldn’t give as good a fight on subsequent catchings because after all, they’re "very much like a real trout" and as we all know from sir Bone’s tracts, no trout once released is ever worth being caught again. But no, in answer to the original question. I’d rather fish for the real thing. — -dnc-
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether ? Tim Walker Well Moe Timwalker, Sooner or later I figured you’d have to ask that question or a variant thereof. If we could develop virtual reality that plugged directly into our brains and appeared indistinguishable from "reality" would you give up living "normally"? Would you believe such a thing were possible eventually? Or would you just commit suicide if such a thing were ever developed? Do you believe in the existence of a spirit inside living (or even inanimate) things? If we could develop a computer that was powerful enough to exceed the human brain in all aspects, would it have a soul? Do we have souls? You are asking a question that is too deep for anyone to reply in a satisfactory manner on a newsgroup. The responses will just end up being fodder in a feeding frenzy like so much food pellets being thrown into a pond full of hatchery trout(*). Mu Young Lee Ann Arbor, MI USA
I think you put a bit too much paint on that motionless rock Mu. The question didn’t seem to require a view into existence. More like a yes, no, or a maybe or what kind of chip… you know, mundane shit. (*)I have seen this at Kananaskis Lodge in Alberta. The old guy with the feed pail from the gift shop walks out to the articifial pond. Before he even chucks his first handful of fish chow, all the rainbow trout begin violently jockeying for position.
I have seen grown men reduced to fisticuffs on The Fork over a rising fish. I guess Pavlovian responses are in the eyes of the beholder, I know a few fish that are still laughing thief ventrals off at me. Hm
If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether ? Tim Walker
(snip) the profundity of that question is breathtaking. mu young is right. i don’t know if one can formulate a full response in the newsgroup forum. the image goes to the very heart of why we fish. it makes jon’s signature (we are fishermen, we kill fish, or something like that) come into focus. i say to all of you that the vast majority of us would answer tim’s question: "no"; because a very important part of fishing is the act of "taking", either by subduing and releasing, or killing, the fish. a bot fish could not be conquered, or killed. it would not feel alive in our hands. we would not be gods for a moment, which i think is at the heart of why we fish. just a start. wayno
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether ? Tim Walker (snip) the profundity of that question is breathtaking. mu young is right. i don’t know if one can formulate a full response in the newsgroup forum. the image goes to the very heart of why we fish. it makes jon’s signature (we are fishermen, we kill fish, or something like that) come into focus. i say to all of you that the vast majority of us would answer tim’s question: "no"; because a very important part of fishing is the act of "taking", either by subduing and releasing, or killing, the fish. a bot fish could not be conquered, or killed. it would not feel alive in our hands. we would not be gods for a moment, which i think is at the heart of why we fish. just a start. wayno
No, it would remove feel from the touch, the heart from the act, the I from me. It would be a handful of dirt in a domain of gold, of no value,no place a continuation of a start HM
Hey T-Bone, If you made some robotic animals, maybe some of us blood thirsty people could shoot fake animals and tie flies with their wires to catch these magical robotic fish. Then we could sit down to a wonderful feast of circuits, metal, and vegetables with our wonderful android wives. Yeah, that is a great idea. Try living in the real world with the rest of us for awhile, you dimwit. Thanks for your time. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If I could develop a robotic trout that would act very much like a real trout and I put these things in pond and stream and allowed you to cast for them, would you consider quitting fishing for the living version altogether ? — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (snip) the profundity of that question is breathtaking. mu young is right. i don’t know if one can formulate a full response in the newsgroup forum. the image goes to the very heart of why we fish. it makes jon’s signature (we are fishermen, we kill fish, or something like that) come into focus. i say to all of you that the vast majority of us would answer tim’s question: "no"; because a very important part of fishing is the act of "taking", either by subduing and releasing, or killing, the fish. a bot fish could not be conquered, or killed. it would not feel alive in our hands. we would not be gods for a moment, which i think is at the heart of why we fish. just a start. wayno
Amen! Wayne Tim Apple " Always one step closer to going Postal! "
Hey T-Bone, If you made some robotic animals, maybe some of us blood thirsty people could shoot fake animals and tie flies with their wires to catch these magical robotic fish. Then we could sit down to a wonderful feast of circuits, metal, and vegetables with our wonderful android wives. Yeah, that is a great idea. Try living in the real world with the rest of us for awhile, you dimwit. Thanks for your time.
While I appreciate the thoughtful and kind comments Rick… I’m dead serious. We are currently soliciting venture capital for the research. I currently have friends at the Trident submarine research center evaluating the economivc feasibility of the project. As it stands now, we will need to get the production cost of each fishbot under about ~$2500 to make this venture profitable, and I am optimistic that we can do that. I am really hoping that some of the people in the semiconducter and firmware businesses here will become partners once we have established their worthiness. Ken Janik is fairly high on our candidacy list. With my ‘alive’ post I was looking for a little marketing input from this group of flyfishermen, who I trust will tell me the truth. That is, would the engage in the sport at all. Does the quarry have to be alive to make flyfishing interesting ?. This is proprietary, discussion, please leave it here (I trust you guys). I have developed a game…and posted the detailed rules over 8 years ago. I will summarize it here for you. I intend to name the game FLOG, for starters. It will be conducted on a FLOG course and consist of a variety of challenging lies to test your flyfishing prowess. As you approach a hole, be it a spring creek, pond, rapid or what have you, a small reset button is pressed and the fishbots are reset to an initial ‘unspooked’ state. This will ensure parity on the course, for each player. Each hole will have a ‘par’ that is, the number of casts allowed. When you catch a fish, you stop and count your strokes and weigh the fish. The winner is a combination of low strokes and pounds of fish released. We had originally intended to use living animals for this game, but they are too unpredictable to make it fair and we are afraid that this will cause us problems with animal rights groups in the future. Do you have any suggestions that might help us make this work ? Your pal, — TimW President Pisces Simulation Systems
(unfair attack on a great american entrepernuer snipped) While I appreciate the thoughtful and kind comments Rick… I’m dead serious. We are currently soliciting venture capital for the research. I currently have friends at the Trident submarine research center evaluating the economivc feasibility of the project. As it stands now, we will need to get the production cost of each fishbot under about ~$2500 to make this venture profitable, and I am optimistic that we can do that. I am really hoping that some of the people in the semiconducter and firmware businesses here will become partners once we have established their worthiness. Ken Janik is fairly high on our candidacy list.
great choice, tim. dr. janik is a legendary botboy. With my ‘alive’ post I was looking for a little marketing input from this group of flyfishermen, who I trust will tell me the truth. That is, would the engage in the sport at all. Does the quarry have to be alive to make flyfishing interesting ?. This is proprietary, discussion, please leave it here (I trust you guys).
(fascinating proposal snipped) we here at little wayno’s guide service (we never close) would certainly appreciate the opportunity to lend the considerable weight of our own capital resources to the exciting effort you at pisces systems have inaugurated. it would be our hope that we might be considered as a franchise holder for the smokey mtn natl park. while the exact amount of the investment must await approval by our board of directors, i think it is safe to predict a number sufficient to purchase the state of rhode island. for the firm wayno
If I could develop a robotic version of your wife, that would act very much like your real wife, but that would never nag you about the time you spend fishing, would you ever go home?
Is she programmable? JE – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — something bogus to avoid spam)
depends big guy….your last foray into robotics had quite a few bugs
Yeah, but it looks like we’ve worked most of them out. And unlike the mythical story of (?) who escalated gift giving each time, I will stop now and simply say thank you for the early colorado mining images. They now grace my office wall. Your pal, — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"
I’m dead serious. We are currently soliciting venture capital for the research. I currently have friends at the Trident submarine research center evaluating the economivc feasibility of the project. As it stands now, we will need to get the production cost of each fishbot under about ~$2500 to make this venture profitable, and I am optimistic that we can do that. I am
<snip Please convince your backers to put up some money for development of fembot fishing wives. Mu Young Lee, feeling like 6 Million Dollars on a great winter day.
Hey T-Bone, If you made some robotic animals, maybe some of us blood thirsty I’m dead serious. We are currently soliciting venture capital for the research. I currently have friends at the Trident submarine research center evaluating the economivc feasibility of the project. As it stands now, we will need to get the production cost of each fishbot under about ~$2500 to make this venture profitable, and I am optimistic that we can do that. I am really hoping that some of the people in the semiconducter and firmware businesses here will become partners once we have established their worthiness. Ken Janik is fairly high on our candidacy list.
I’m afraid I will have to decline. Currently I’m working on a robotic PETA-droid. It will post neverending articles to usenet to allow all lowlife hunters, fishermen, and meat-eaters to realize the horrible pain and torture they inflict on the poor innocent little creatures. Don’t tell anyone, but the code name is Tiresome-BOring Neverending Excrement. SSSHH, for your eyes only. - Ken — "To listen to some devout people, one would imagine that God never laughs." – Ghose Aurobindo
Do you have any suggestions that might help us make this work ? Your pal, — TimW President Pisces Simulation Systems
Stay at home and play Trophy Rivers on your damn box. 
Now would I be ashamed to poach a few? May be with a hunting rifle from above the pool. Always willing to help out and change the odds. You ought to here about the gophers that I’m sending to the clave. — Doug Knight metalfab<atpacbell.net Junk e-mail, solicitation, sales, products and services gladly accepted at $500.00 per mailing and billed directly to your ISP.
I am looking for a lightweight single canoe for fly fishing. Any recommendations? THANKS
I caught one last week with a Shakespear floating line rig. I am sorry to say that the sucker wiggled away when he paddled backwards and I wasn’t expecting it. Chuck Creekmore – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am looking for a lightweight single canoe for fly fishing. Any recommendations? THANKS
Paul An excellent boat for fly fishing would be a Pungo made by Wilderness Systems. This is actually a recreational kayak but is real stable and many fly fisherman swear by them. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am looking for a lightweight single canoe for fly fishing. Any recommendations? THANKS
Paul, Check out Mohawk canoes – the Solo model looks great to me. Also – the Old Town Pack may work for you – perhps it may be more stable for fly fishing than the Mohawk Solo. I haven’t paddled either, though am trying to, and considering one of them for purchase. Good luck!! Lou – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am looking for a lightweight single canoe for fly fishing. Any recommendations? THANKS
Try a Mohawk 14′ Challenger, lts a good boat to fish out of and you can even do some whitewater in it. I got one and I like it.
Sawyer makes a nice 13′ solo boat that would work well. They make it in several layups. The least expensive layup is the Solo 13 which is the heaviest layup at 46 pounds but is the cheapest listing at $575. The same boat in kevlar or a lighter fiberglass layup is called the Classic. I own a Solo 13. It is a nice paddling solo. It was designed by the same guy that designed the Wildfire/Flashfire and Starfire for Bell. The Bell boats are beautiful but more expensive. The Flashfire looks to be a refined Solo 13 that has been designed for a little more experienced paddler and would have a little higher performance with the sacrafice of a little of the initial stability.
I’ve got Chesapeake Light Craft Boats and Pygmy Boats Inc. Does anyone have other kit makers for wood/fiberclass ocean boats? Any experiences good or bad with building a wood boat? Annie Oakley’s Casting & Blasting Page, shooting and fly fishing links: http://members.tripod.com/~AnnieOakley/CastAndBlast.html "Web Poison"–FREE anti-spam software:http://www.e-scrub.com/wpoison/ Phoney Spam-Bot Link: http://www.e-scrub.com/cgi-bin/wpoison/wpoison.cgi
Nomad Sea Kayaks. I have been told they make a good kit. http://www.clic.net/~nomad/ Mark
Nomad Sea Kayaks. I have been told they make a good kit. http://www.clic.net/~nomad/
I was considering one when I bought my kayak but couldn’t find anyone that knew anything about them. They are also fiberglass only, not wood/fiberglass. The Guillemott boats (wood) look interesting as well: http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/ I saw a boat in shop in Duck, NC (outer banks) a couple of weeks ago. It had a fiberglass hull with a wood deck with wood hatch covers. I have no idea what kind of kit it was built from but the owner of the shop built it and was selling it for $450. Seemed like a real good deal. John Fereira
Let’s say you just bought 100 of the prettiest acres ever put up for sale…
Hello Sandy, Give up on the scheme and settle in for the long haul. You should have more than a hundred acres if you want to start a subdivision. Or make your subdivision somewhere where you’re not ruining what you came for, like Billings. Let the beavers have the run of the place. Beavers are more desireable than Californians. It will be more valuable as a natural place. If you don’t subdivide and develop it, we Californians will pay you decent money to fish it for a day or two and then best of all we will go home. If you let me fish it free next summer I’ll make you a painting of it. I’ll leave out the houses and I can leave out the lake too if you wish. Mark Vinsel Oakland, CA http://www.lanminds.com/local/vinnie/gallery.html
Mark, How badly you dissappoint! When I saw your topic I thought, "Well, this doesn’t belong in this Newsgroup either but it would be a hell of a lot more interesting to discuss". Maybe you and Fletch and T-bone and all the others who participate in the peta and tree hugging discourses should start your "rec.fishing.rag" group. It’s tough to eat beaver then, too.
Mark, How badly you dissappoint! When I saw your topic I thought, "Well, this doesn’t belong in this Newsgroup either but it would be a hell of a lot more interesting to discuss". Maybe you and Fletch and T-bone and all the others who participate in the peta and tree hugging discourses should start your "rec.fishing.rag" group. It’s tough to eat beaver then, too.
Whoa! I think the ref tossed a flag on that remark… (At this rate, it’s gonna be a l o n g winter! ;^) Cheers! /dave <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp. Alpha Server Engineering < < Parker Street Campus Maynard, Massachusetts < < Charter Member of "Curmudgeons Unlimited" < <<<<<<<<<<<< AMA 548313 <<<<<<<<<<<< Disclaimer: Opinion and content is mine alone, and unlikely to be shared by my employer, etc…
Mark, How badly you dissappoint! When I saw your topic I thought, "Well, this doesn’t belong in this Newsgroup either but it would be a hell of a lot more interesting to discuss". Maybe you and Fletch and T-bone and all the others who participate in the peta and tree hugging discourses should start your "rec.fishing.rag" group. It’s tough to eat beaver then, too.
THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE A FLY FISHING AND EVEN FLY TYING GROUP and all I see is nonsense other than what is supposed to be discussed here. Beaver dubbing is used to make a great pattern called the Adams. It is also (grey and very fine and it dubs terrifically) used in gray nymphs and a varied number of flies well worth everyone’s attention. Beaver is not tough to eat if you pat it first. (Actually, par-boil) George Gehrke/Mr. Gink Lets get back to fly fishing!
Vacationing on Trinity lake this year in early july, first time in the area and hoping for suggestions thanx, Josh Sauter
Vacationing on Trinity lake this year in early july, first time in the area and hoping for suggestions thanx, Josh Sauter
……they have the best fly shop and guide servise in that area. William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA
22:27:09 -0700 writes:
: :Vacationing on Trinity lake this year in early july, :first time in the area and hoping for suggestions : thanx, Josh Sauter Trinity Lake is difficult to flyfish, because of its size and depth. However Lewiston Lake nearby and the Trinity River (fly fishing only section available) are excellent choices. Also Coffee Creek near Trinity Lake sometimes has good fishing. Check with the Fly Shop in Redding CA. They have an 800 no. There is also a Trinity something flyshop which is quite good. I jsut can’t think of the full name. George Berns Trout Live in Beautiful Places
I related in an earlier post that I have a pair of Simms micro-fiber that I got in January and that I’m happy with them so far but – - – -I picked up a copy of the April issue of Fly Rod and Reel magazine today. This issue includes an article about "breathable" waders in which the author describes his experiences with field testing six pairs of new waders. The one big problem that he found with them was a tendency to develop pinhole leaks. One pair leaked "out of the box". A couple of more developed leaks within 20-30 hours of use. The "best" pair developed the first leak after about 100 hours of use. None of the leaks were in the seams. All were due to punctures of the fabric and membrane. I’ve worn mine on about five or six trips this year with no problems but I’m extremely careful around briars and the like. Johnny
That’s all very learned, and persuasive, but what about the perhaps majority of times when one is not actually in water up to one’s cheeks — tummy-crawling up to a choice pool, hiking the mile along the old rail bed to the next less people-populated stretch, and so on? That’s when I find the added weight (of alternative materials) and the moisture-inside problem most irritating. So, I’ll set up a different kind of question: does the transpiration leave the sweat-salt behind (I assume it does), and if so is this a Good Thing?
Dan, I doubt there is a clear answer. However, it is unlikely that the salt and oils from the sweat traverse the Goretex effectively since they would not be transported on water vapor molecules. If there is any transport would relate to the pore size in the fabric and the size of the salt or oil molecules or aggregates. Over time they probably build up if not contained in the liner clothing underneath the Gortex and impair the water vapor exchange by clogging the holes. This may relate to the previous post suggesting to keep it clean. Gortex, in theory, is a perfect breathable fabric. In real life, my experience has been that it is less than perfect but does offer some advantages because of its breathability. I think if you were to push any of the underlying conditions to extremes then the Goretex would not perform. For example, when skiing very hard and generating mass quantities of sweat in extremely cold weather a layer of ice will form inside my Gortex jacket. Presumably the water vapor hit the temperature gradient at the inside surface of the jacket, condensed and froze. Another example would be excessive perspiration under generally average conditions. The exchange of water vapor through the fabric is through diffusion. As long as the water vapor concentration is lower outside then exchange will occur (I doubt it would work in a steam bath). This exchange is rate limited by the number and size of the pores. If your sweat-water vapor production exceeds this maximum rate for vapor transpiration it will get very humid inside the waders. Water will then condense depending on the temperature (this interaction between humidity and temperature is called the dew point; ie. the temp. at which condensate forms for a given air water content. Thus, the intensity of exercise, the persons propensity to perspire and the temperature of the environment are all factors in your ultimate comfort. In addition, walking may help move air in and out of the top of the waders helping the loss of water vapor considerably but may be offset by the increased exercise. You did not mention if you were belly crawling through thick brush or mud. Also the level of excitement based on how "choice" the pool is may be a factor. Certainly this would alter the equation. Similarly falling in the river would require sophisticated mathematical modeling to reach an answer and would depend on the initial condition assumptions. For instance was the fall a "melt down" and was the person able to keep the flyrod arm above water or was it a head first plunge (probably would require invoking chaos theory here) and did he/she have to swim the next rapid downstream? A long fishless winter seems to lead to considering these imponderables. I am off to Telluride for a science meeting and to telemark ski, I’ll think more on this on the lifts. Best regards. Jon
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Besides the cost, is there any downside to gore-tex (breathable) waders? First, ask yourself what Gore-Tex does. It is a semi-permiable teflon membrane, too small to let water pass, but will allow water vapor to. As far as breathability, Gore-Tex will NOT push warm water vapor from YOU into the water in which you are standing. Thermodynamically, this is prohibitive. (Think about it: nature loves and goes to disorder. Forcing your sweat vapor out of a mixture of air and into an environment already full of water will not happen. Never in the history of the universe has this Spontaneously happend) Gore-tex will allow your waders to dry from the inside and out, however in a short amount of time. This means no more clammy feet from yesterday’s wading. Also, if the Gore-tex is to fuction in a breathable mode, it must be the sole water barrier. Any other barrier would retard air flow and make Gore-Tex useless. If your membrane is damaged in some way, it will be much harder to repair. Thank-you. That is all. Jason Beary
I dont want to argue with thermo dynamics, but I think that you are dead wrong. I have used Gore-Tex a lot riding motor cycles in _heavy_ rain ( we have loads of that during a typical Swedish summer and it really keeps the water out and lets the sweat evaporate. I can asure you that during these conditions you will normally get soaking wet just as fast as if you took a bath with your clothes on. I really can’t understand your reasoning either. It would be valid for a system without a membrane, but the membrane does just what you say: lets water molecules pass and keeps water in liquid form out. This is due to the surface tension of the water. The water on the outside will have a lower temperature than the the fisher on the inside of the membrane and this is the key to why there will be more molecules going out through the membrane than in. This leads to two things: 1) Don’t take away the water tension. You may do this by letting the Gore-Tex get dirty. So keep your waders clean. 1) Don’t wade in water warmer than your skin temperature ( ~28 C ) using Gore-Tex waders. /KK Kjell K Kernen – More or less sane.
Besides the cost, is there any downside to gore-tex (breathable) waders? I assume that the degree of insulation required can be regulated by the clothes worn underneath. Is this reasonable? Thanks
Hi Jerry- I hate to sound so cut and dry, but you are dead wrong. Not only does GoreTex breath underwater, it does it very well. Water logged polypro thermal underwear will dry out while wading in waist deep water under GoreTex waders. That is a lot of water for your body to vaporize and for your waders to dispell, but GoreTex waders do it. From first hand, real life (repeated) experience I can state this as a fact. I would urge you to get out from under your book learned "facts" and test your theories under real conditions before making such pronouncements to the world. It would be a shame if someone read your words and made a fishing decision based on your "information". Tight lines, Ralph Ralph Cutter, California School of Flyfishing. http://www.flyline.com
My favorite is a "crawdad color fat rap.. Mine has teeth marks in it! Good for bass or walleye.. Get one
I Enjoy flyfishing for bass using a popper of wetfly (you can catch a hell of alot of fish on a dryfly but these take a bit more skill)
I like the good ol’ heddons torpedo. TOPWATER TOPWATER TOPWATER! There isn’t anything much more exciting! Thank God the warm weather is here!
Depends on time of year, water temperature, lake level, water clarity, depth fish are holding, … Whatever they are biting best!!! Always my favorite.
This is an old idea for a thread, but a good one. I’m in a traditional Rapala phase, because I’ve caught a bunch of
fish on them in tree-tops the last few weeks. I’m a Mepps man!!! Depending on the size, type and finish they’re great for Bass, Pike and Pickeral (Walleye to my US friends!) Phil
When they are not hitting on top try a good old fashioned rooster tail…nothing beats them…;and thats a fact…
I generally like topwater…super exciting! I’ve alway’s liked floating Rapalas. Lately, I’ve taken to this yellow Rebel rattling cricket. I’ve caught bass, black crappies, and even a 14" brown trout on it. pbh xxx
The purple backed REBEL minnow is the best lure I’ve found for large mouth. I have caught fish on it in almost every environment that I’ve fished. A silver and blue rattle trap is a close second.
I like the Rooster Tails, I’ve caught Smallmouth, Bluegill, Crappie, Largemouth, Pike, Pickeral and even Catfish on them. I think they are about the best all-round lure ever created. Tight Lines and may God Bless you and yours. Misha * Misha Kozupchik * Researching Family Genealogy: * * 9103 #15 California Avenue * Barna: Certizne, Slovak Rep. * * Marmet, West Virginia 25315 * Kozupchik: Rechitsa, Belarus * * USA * Kozupcik: Certizne, Slovak Rep.*
As of now I too have been cacthing about 2/3 of my fish on an Orange Rapala…..(bass, perch, crappie, pickerel)….. what about everybody else…. Matt
7 gram floating orange Rapala (expensive), large Panther Martin with buck tail, grey/white 1/8 ounce Roostertail…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As of now I too have been cacthing about 2/3 of my fish on an Orange Rapala…..(bass, perch, crappie, pickerel)….. what about everybody else…. Matt 7 gram floating orange Rapala (expensive), large Panther Martin with buck tail, grey/white 1/8 ounce Roostertail…
I find in real hard to beat the old round lead-head jig with a curly-tail grub. The possibilities are endless for the various combinations of weight, grub size, color, action, weedlessness, etc etc. Add in the other soft plastics, and you have a whole tackle box ready for practically any situation: top water (slug-go type things), worm fishing (a lead-head is really nothing but a pegged Texas rig), panfish (just last weekend I tired my arm out catching endless perch on 2" white curlytails, *and* caught a few bass and pickerel in the process!), deep jigging, vertical jigging, flipping, open-water suspended fish (like blues or stripers). You get the picture. I rarely use anything else but jigs.
As of now I too have been cacthing about 2/3 of my fish on an Orange Rapala…..(bass, perch, crappie, pickerel)….. what about everybody else…. Matt,
Try a chrome and black ratt;ing Chug Bug by Storm Manufacturing.
As of now I too have been cacthing about 2/3 of my fish on an Orange Rapala…..(bass, perch, crappie, pickerel)….. what about everybody else…. Matt, Try a chrome and black ratt;ing Chug Bug by Storm Manufacturing.
Nothing beats a Blakemore Roadrunner. 1/32 - 1/16 oz for panfish, 1/8 oz – 1/2 oz for bass, 1/2 oz – 1 1/2 oz for stripers. You can’t fish it wrong as long as you fish it slow. John Hanks
Bauerle) writes: what about everybody else….
1/4 oz. spinner baits with 3 inch grub trailers. — J.O’B. If you plant ice, you’re gonna harvest wind…
This is an old idea for a thread, but a good one. I’m in a traditional Rapala phase, because I’ve caught a bunch of
fish on them in tree-tops the last few weeks. For pure out and out FUN I love a Barney spoon ( can’t buy um any more-sorry )in weedbads. There is nothing like a little meat and some salad on the side. This isn’t my favorite have to catch a bass lure just my FUN lure..
This is an old idea for a thread, but a good one. I’m in a traditional Rapala phase, because I’ve caught a bunch of fish on them in tree-tops the last few weeks.
Comer ) writes: This is an old idea for a thread, but a good one. I’m in a traditional Rapala phase, because I’ve caught a bunch of fish on them in tree-tops the last few weeks. For pure out and out FUN I love a Barney spoon ( can’t buy um any more-sorry )in weedbads. There is nothing like a little meat and some salad on the side. This isn’t my favorite have to catch a bass lure just my FUN lure..
Of course I’m a little prejudice, but for all around "fun" I prefer a "M’ or a "MM" series M-Bait in a gold side. — **** Mike Muncy’s **** "M-Baits" Handcrafted Cedar Crankbaits
As of now I too have been cacthing about 2/3 of my fish on an Orange Rapala…..(bass, perch, crappie, pickerel)….. what about everybody else…. Matt,