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I recommend Gary LaFontaine’s Fly Fishing the Mountain Lakes. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Most trout lakes have dragon- and damselflies in abundance so nymph imitations of those may possibly work, though warming water will get them more attention. Another possibility would be a callibaetis nymph.

Or streamers if there are some big ones in there. Baitfish and leeches. Very good suggestion on the damsels and dragons, they’re common and a substantial meal compared to a lot of other nymphs. And if someone recommends damsel nymphs or says they’re hot on the lake right now or starting to hatch or whatever, try to retrieve them toward shore because they migrate to shore and then hatch out of the water. Another tip: There’s no way to retrieve too slowly for most insect imitations in a lake. Another tip: If you fish chironomids, try them with a floating line and a very long leader to give a vertical presentation like the natural. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Deb & I are gearing up (literally) for the upcoming season and she really enjoyed fly fishing some of the local lakes.  The reason she enjoyed it so much was that she could really practice her casting, move away from people, and I did all the rowing. What I know about fly fishing lakes would rattle in a thimble.  I purchased a few books on fly fishing lakes and we have been tying up chronomids like crazy. Any you Roffian pros have any pointers for the lake fishing novices?  We hear, thru the local fly shop, that fly fishing has been pretty good at some of the lower elevation (read not frozen) lakes.  What would the trout be likely to be hitting this time of winter?  The fly shop owner thought Wolly Buggers fished on the bottom and slow might do the trick…any others? —– Padishar Creel Going through life in a constant state of confusion.

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In May, I want to try for Ounaniche, using streamers (probably Magog Smelt) at Lac Tremblant. It is my understanding that these fish are deep and my question is this. If I use a Hardy Silex and a Spey-type rod with the streamer on a short 3 – 4ft leader, do I need to add weight to the streamer or weight the tip of the line in order to keep it down? I’m not sure what will happen here as I’ve never trolled a fly in deep water before. Any advice appreciated. Thanks.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – To help you out a little regarding lake fishing, often your success is best under water.  Lakes that have Cutthroat can offer up some interesting dry fly fishing on occasion.  A miller moth or proper dry fly on the surface can be exciting but fishing them a little different and with more patience can produce heart stopping strikes.  Try letting your fly just sit after it lands upon the water.  The little ‘ring’ is an attraction as it is.  Let it set for fifteen seconds before you twitch the fly or surface film nymph just an inch.  Wait five seconds and do it again. Having full sinking shooting heads and sink tips are a must.  Your leader lengths should be kept short.  Eighteen inches of butt, taper, and tippet each is all you need because you want your streamers to not lag or sag or carry long curves of action under water because they are so far removed from the main line.  A particularly wonderful but simple lake fly on 2X hooks of medium size consists of a small sprig of Marlboro Red hackle tips about a quarter inch long, a peacock herl body with grizzly hackle at the head, pulled back a bit over the body is deadly.  Cast her out and let it sink and then when you’re at the depth you want, use short three inch strips.  This simple fly is a must for those who fish lakes and ponds from tubes. Leach patterns on size 8 – 4 long shank hooks often get instant attention.  Black with Olive Green palmered hackle bodies along with a green marabou tail and variations thereof are an arsenal must.  These are especially deadly on bass.  (Big Bass) Use Chenille for your bodies.  Black bodies, black marabou overwing, olive tail but keep it short and palmered green grizzly hackle bodies can vary by changing to black and brown, believe it or not, etc.  Leach patterns pump and breath and work well in large rivers.  I think often the darker patterns are taken for muddlers at times because these streamers seem to catch bigger fish.  Use a sink product to get these fluffy babies down and working. — (C) George Gehrke 2001 http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html     fine bamboo flyrods & blanks

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For trolling flies deeply , a sinking line is required. Depth is controlled by the trolling speed, and the length of line out. Rod and reel are immaterial. For deep trolling ,one  may also use a downrigger, with a normal fly-rod, although fly-line is then basically superfluous, and you might just as well use a normal spinning rod and reel.  This is often very successful. TL MC — "Where fishing is concerned, most anglers are basically manic excessives" http://www.mikeconnor.de – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – In May, I want to try for Ounaniche, using streamers (probably Magog Smelt) at Lac Tremblant. It is my understanding that these fish are deep and my question is this. If I use a Hardy Silex and a Spey-type rod with the streamer on a short 3 – 4ft leader, do I need to add weight to the streamer or weight the tip of the line in order to keep it down? I’m not sure what will happen here as I’ve never trolled a fly in deep water before. Any advice appreciated. Thanks.

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Sometimes it helps to know what fish species are in there. I know lakes where there are trout but no bass. Pike but no trout. And so on. It depends on who eats who in the food chain. In a lake with no trout but lots of smallmouth bass for example, there were crayfish remains among the shoreline rocks, so I’d use a crayfish lookalike fly and flip it near the shoreline. Not to say you couldn’t use something else but, what the heck…If you know they like hot dogs, give ‘em hot dogs! I like to fish a lake several times to get to know it. The more the better. Sometimes it takes a couple of years and a lot of listening to the local liars club but don’t necessarily believe them. Some of them wear leech patterns as decoys on their hats but their fly box is full of muddlers.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Deb & I are gearing up (literally) for the upcoming season and she really enjoyed fly fishing some of the local lakes.  The reason she enjoyed it so much was that she could really practice her casting, move away from people, and I did all the rowing. What I know about fly fishing lakes would rattle in a thimble.  I purchased a few books on fly fishing lakes and we have been tying up chronomids like crazy. Any you Roffian pros have any pointers for the lake fishing novices?  We hear, thru the local fly shop, that fly fishing has been pretty good at some of the lower elevation (read not frozen) lakes.  What would the trout be likely to be hitting this time of winter?  The fly shop owner thought Wolly Buggers fished on the bottom and slow might do the trick…any others? —– Padishar Creel Going through life in a constant state of confusion.

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Deb & I are gearing up (literally) for the upcoming season and she really enjoyed fly fishing some of the local lakes.  The reason she enjoyed it so much was that she could really practice her casting, move away from people, and I did all the rowing. What I know about fly fishing lakes would rattle in a thimble.  I purchased a few books on fly fishing lakes and we have been tying up chronomids like crazy. Any you Roffian pros have any pointers for the lake fishing novices?  We hear, thru the local fly shop, that fly fishing has been pretty good at some of the lower elevation (read not frozen) lakes.  What would the trout be likely to be hitting this time of winter?  The fly shop owner thought Wolly Buggers fished on the bottom and slow might do the trick…any others? —– Padishar Creel Going through life in a constant state of confusion.

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Hi Chris, I would suggest you read and digest this site, most especially the articles by Brian Chan. http://www.bcadventure.com/adventure/angling/stillwater/index.phtml My own series of articles on chironomids is not finished, although I have been working on them for quite some time, and I will probably not bother with them now anyway, as he says it better. He also covers more techniques, and better than I could. Woolly buggers, and similar things will often work, but careful imitation and tactics will invariably prove more satisfying, and often more successful. TL MC — "Where fishing is concerned, most anglers are basically manic excessives" http://www.mikeconnor.de

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Most trout lakes have dragon- and damselflies in abundance so nymph imitations of those may possibly work, though warming water will get them more attention. Another possibility would be a callibaetis nymph.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Deb & I are gearing up (literally) for the upcoming season and she really enjoyed fly fishing some of the local lakes.  The reason she enjoyed it so much was that she could really practice her casting, move away from people, and I did all the rowing. What I know about fly fishing lakes would rattle in a thimble.  I purchased a few books on fly fishing lakes and we have been tying up chronomids like crazy. Any you Roffian pros have any pointers for the lake fishing novices?  We hear, thru the local fly shop, that fly fishing has been pretty good at some of the lower elevation (read not frozen) lakes.  What would the trout be likely to be hitting this time of winter?  The fly shop owner thought Wolly Buggers fished on the bottom and slow might do the trick…any others? —– Padishar Creel Going through life in a constant state of confusion.

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To help you out a little regarding lake fishing, often your success is best under water.  Lakes that have Cutthroat can offer up some interesting dry fly fishing on occasion.  A miller moth or proper dry fly on the surface can be exciting but fishing them a little different and with more patience can produce heart stopping strikes.  Try letting your fly just sit after it lands upon the water.  The little ‘ring’ is an attraction as it is.  Let it set for fifteen seconds before you twitch the fly or surface film nymph just an inch.  Wait five seconds and do it again. Having full sinking shooting heads and sink tips are a must.  Your leader lengths should be kept short.  Eighteen inches of butt, taper, and tippet each is all you need because you want your streamers to not lag or sag or carry long curves of action under water because they are so far removed from the main line.  A particularly wonderful but simple lake fly on 2X hooks of medium size consists of a small sprig of Marlboro Red hackle tips about a quarter inch long, a peacock herl body with grizzly hackle at the head, pulled back a bit over the body is deadly.  Cast her out and let it sink and then when you’re at the depth you want, use short three inch strips.  This simple fly is a must for those who fish lakes and ponds from tubes. Leach patterns on size 8 – 4 long shank hooks often get instant attention.  Black with Olive Green palmered hackle bodies along with a green marabou tail and variations thereof are an arsenal must.  These are especially deadly on bass.  (Big Bass) Use Chenille for your bodies.  Black bodies, black marabou overwing, olive tail but keep it short and palmered green grizzly hackle bodies can vary by changing to black and brown, believe it or not, etc.  Leach patterns pump and breath and work well in large rivers.  I think often the darker patterns are taken for muddlers at times because these streamers seem to catch bigger fish.  Use a sink product to get these fluffy babies down and working. — (C) George Gehrke 2001 http://www.gink.com/shopcart/index.html     fine bamboo flyrods & blanks

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Question:

Jungle Cock fethers , Where to buy them?? S.R.L.

Go to Chinatown in San Francisco.  You can get anything there. Tiger bones, bear gall bladders, wolf snouts, gorilla hands, jungle cock feathers — you name it, they’ll get it, if you have the do-re-mi. Just try not to look like a Fish and Game dude.         Steve Barnard

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Jungle Cock fethers , Where to buy them?? S.R.L.

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You should be able to find artificial jungle cock from some of the mail order houses. Jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jungle Cock fethers , Where to buy them?? S.R.L. Go to Chinatown in San Francisco.  You can get anything there. Tiger bones, bear gall bladders, wolf snouts, gorilla hands, jungle cock feathers — you name it, they’ll get it, if you have the do-re-mi. Just try not to look like a Fish and Game dude.    Steve Barnard

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Jungle Cock fethers , Where to buy them?? S.R.L.

Hi S.R.L. We carry them in small packages in sizes and in whole necks from time to time. The necks are from domestically raised birds. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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Two words – ill  legal. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jungle Cock fethers , Where to buy them?? S.R.L.

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Two words ill eagle – sick bird. — Ernie Harrison Remove NOSPAM to send E-mail GO TO http://users.ccnet.com/~emh FOR TRAVEL TIE BOX PLANS – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Two words – ill  legal. Jungle Cock fethers , Where to buy them?? S.R.L.

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Two words – ill  legal.

I don’t believe that’s true anymore, as they are being raised domestically, as Bill Kiene pointed out.  Fly Fishing Only in Fairfield, Maine carries them.

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Hardly.  Domestically raised Jungle Cock is available from a variety of sources. Two words – ill  legal. Jungle Cock fethers , Where to buy them?? S.R.L.

– Mike in PDX "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                          Tom McGuane

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Hi there,is it true in some states in USA jungle cock is ill legal?Here in ICELAND jungle cock it

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Dan – years ago, Orvis had a 3 piece 8′ for 6wt Traveler graphite rod – back in the mid ’70’s tl – les

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Hi there, I do believe that all of the graphite fly rods produced by Orvis are 2 or 4

piece. There are currently two 3 pc. rods available from Orvis in the US.  One is the PM-10 8614-3 (8 1/2 ft. 14 wt. 3 pc.)and the other is a Silver Label 10ft. 7wt. 3pc.  Otherwise the current Orvis rods ar all either 2 or 4 piece.    There may be some 3 pc. rods currently in production for the UK market as there are a number of different rods that Orvis makes specifically for that market that are not sold here.  Most of them are much longer than 8 ft. though. There was a 3 piece 6 wt. available a number of years ago called "The Osprey" but it was 9 1/2 ft. long if I remember correctly.                           Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

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WANTED: LOOKING FOR A 3 PIECE-8FT. 6WT. ORVIS

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WANTED: LOOKING FOR A 3 PIECE-8FT. 6WT. ORVIS

Call John Valk at Grindstone Angling at (905) 689-0880.  I know he has an old Orvis three piece something or other.  It may be a 6 wt.  I don’t remember. Peter

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WANTED: LOOKING FOR A 3 PIECE-8FT. 6WT. ORVIS

Hi there, I do believe that all of the graphite fly rods produced by Orvis are 2 or 4 piece. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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I’d go looking for a catalog from a man called Lew Codella…I think it’s in Boston, MA? A friend of mine swears by him. Try looking in a back of a magazine for the address. Also there’s a zillion bamboo guys with web sites try doing a little web surfing and maybe you’ll find a few phone numbers or e-mail addresses. — Enter the WWW fly tying contest by visiting my web site:http://www.commonlink.com/~Midwestflytying

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Dear fellow fishing enthusaists: I have the opportunity to buy an antique Orvis fishing rod and reel at a local fly-fishing shop and was wondering if the asking price is approximate to its true value.  The rod is an ORVIS IMPREGNATED BAMBOO ROD- SUPERLIGHT SPIN.  The serial # is 65072, length is 6′0", and it’s two-piece design.  It is in mint condition and comes with the orginal container.  The reel is an ORVIS 50A SPINNING REEL.  The owner wants $250 for it.  Is this fair?  Your comments will be very appreciated. Thank you, Peter Byron   Albany, NY

Peter: I believe this is a fair deal, slightly below market value, where market value is what the main dealers in this stuff charge.  I’d say the reel alone has a market value of $50-75 and the rod $250-300, especially if it’s truly mint.  Remember, though, that market value is what the dealers get. If you tried to sell it, you might not get that much, although tne Net has opened this up a bit.  Hope this helps. –Rich

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Dear fellow fishing enthusaists: I have the opportunity to buy an antique Orvis fishing rod and reel at a local fly-fishing shop and was wondering if the asking price is approximate to its true value.  The rod is an ORVIS IMPREGNATED BAMBOO ROD- SUPERLIGHT SPIN.  The serial # is 65072, length is 6′0", and it’s two-piece design.  It is in mint condition and comes with the orginal container.  The reel is an ORVIS 50A SPINNING REEL.  The owner wants $250 for it.  Is this fair?  Your comments will be very appreciated. Thank you, Peter Byron   Albany, NY

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Looking for a form or possibly even software on which I can enter all data on fishing trips for future references (ex. date, time, weather, etc.). Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks. Evert

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Looking for a form or possibly even software on which I can enter all data on fishing trips for future references (ex. date, time, weather, etc.). Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks. Evert

Evert, take a look at our FISHbase Anglers Log software, at http://www.terrafin.com You can view sample screens or download an evaluation version. Jeff Gammon Terrafin Software

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Looking for a form or possibly even software on which I can enter all data on fishing trips for future references (ex. date, time, weather, etc.). Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks. Evert

Hello, have a look at http://www.vendel.se/fg.html – The Fisherman

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I’ve decided, a little too late, that the grip I’ve mounted on my Sage 9′ 7wt blank is much too thin in diameter.  I want to go with a full Wells. While I’m at it I might as well change the seat. Does anyone have any ideas on how to best remove the grip and seat which are expoxied  to the blank?  Or is it beyond hope?  TIA.

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I use a Dremel Moto-tool with a cutting disc and slice the reel seat lengthwise in two spots opposite each other on the seat.  Be careful not to cut into the blank.  A flat blade screwdriver inserted into the cut and twisted does the rest.  For the cork, a utility knife and a pair of channel lock pliers are my weapons of choice. Like was suggested earlier, get rid of as much of the old epoxy as possible.  I shave it off with the utility knife.  Before starting the new handle, wrap the butt of the blank with thread and epoxy to build it up level.  This way the new grip can be installed from the butt and you won’t have to redo the guides as well. If you decide to use heat to break the epoxy bond under the reel seat, be extremely careful.  Remember that it’s basically the same epoxy that holds the fibers of the blank together. — Carl Woods Richmond, VA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve decided, a little too late, that the grip I’ve mounted on my Sage 9′ 7wt blank is much too thin in diameter.  I want to go with a full Wells. While I’m at it I might as well change the seat. Does anyone have any ideas on how to best remove the grip and seat which are expoxied  to the blank?  Or is it beyond hope?  TIA.

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(Arnold Kaida) writes: I’ve decided, a little too late, that the grip I’ve mounted on my Sage 9′ 7wt blank is much too thin in diameter.  I want to go with a full Wells. While I’m at it I might as well change the seat. Does anyone have any ideas on how to best remove the grip and seat which are expoxied  to the blank?  Or is it beyond hope?  TIA.

I’d try to heat the reelseat in boiling water and breakdown the epoxy. DO NOT apply a flame to the reelseat. After removing the reelseat use a razor to remove most of the cork, then lightly sand the rest off the blank without sanding into the graphite. Then (guessing from ucla.edu) head down to Bob Marriott’s in Fullerton and pick out your new reelseat and cork grip. Make sure they match each other. Epoxy them on with 5 minute epoxy (In case of future replacement needs this glue will breakdown with heat). Wrap blank with 1/4" strips of masking tape to build the blank up to proper O.D. to match the reelseat/grip I.D’s. Don Burns

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I’ve decided, a little too late, that the grip I’ve mounted on my Sage 9′ 7wt blank is much too thin in diameter.  I want to go with a full Wells. While I’m at it I might as well change the seat. Does anyone have any ideas on how to best remove the grip and seat which are expoxied  to the blank?  Or is it beyond hope?  TIA.

The grip is no problem, but the reel seat can be tough to dislodge. There are various means of getting the seat off, most of which involve lots of heat and risk to the blank. My suggestion is to stick to replacing the grip, unless you are really unhappy with the seat.  Replacing the seat is nto a "whiel you are at it" task.  To get the grip off, just carve it off with a knife.  As you get closer to the blank, you might want to sand off the last fraction of an inch so that  you don’t risk nicking the blank.  Once the grip is off, take off the stirpper guide and any other guide on the butt section of the rod.  If you are using a preformed grip to replace the old, simply fit the new grip to the blank by sliding it over the ferrule end of the butt section.  Ream out the grip or build up the blank with masking tape so that there is a proper fit.  Then replace the winding check and stripper guide.   Lyman Lyman G. Hughes Dallas, TX Ennis, MT

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (Arnold Kaida) writes: I’ve decided, a little too late, that the grip I’ve mounted on my Sage 9′ 7wt blank is much too thin in diameter.  I want to go with a full Wells. While I’m at it I might as well change the seat. Does anyone have any ideas on how to best remove the grip and seat which are expoxied  to the blank?  Or is it beyond hope?  TIA. I’d try to heat the reelseat in boiling water and breakdown the epoxy. DO NOT apply a flame to the reelseat. After removing the reelseat use a razor to remove most of the cork, then lightly sand the rest off the blank without sanding into the graphite. Then (guessing from ucla.edu) head down to Bob Marriott’s in Fullerton and pick out your new reelseat and cork grip. Make sure they match each other. Don Burns

Thanks Don.  The seat refused to budge after soaking in boiling water. So, I finally cut it off with my Dremel mototool and a cutting disk. Wish I had decided to do this before the Flyfishing Fair a couple of weeks ago.  I could have saved a 60 mile drive.  Did you see the distance casting demo by Steve Ratjeff (sp?) the G. Loomis rep? Amazing.

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I’ve decided, a little too late, that the grip I’ve mounted on my Sage 9′ 7wt blank is much too thin in diameter.  I want to go with a full Wells. While I’m at it I might as well change the seat. Does anyone have any ideas on how to best remove the grip and seat which are expoxied  to the blank?  Or is it beyond hope?  TIA.

There is really nothing that is quick.  Perhaps the easiest way to remove the reel seat  is to hold the butt end of the rod in a pot of boiling water on the stove for about fifteen minutes or so; this will make the epoxy reasonably plastic, and you should be able to pull it off with a strong tug before it cools (use oven mitts, of course).  If you have a wood insert, it will be ruined, but they are reasonably inexpensive. For the grip, the only way I know of is to slice and dice the cork and carefully sand off most of the remaining epoxy.   Works for me; I do it every time…. Joe I.

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     I KNOW, I KNOW!  For reasons I do not need to give here, I cannot fish in the conventional way with a flyrod.  I use the castabubble and 6 ft. leader technique.        If there are any other practitioners of this secret practice, I have some questions.  You can e-mail me secretly and anonymously if you like to keep your closet castabubble practice a secret.      Do I fill up the castabubble completely, or leave some air in it? It seems to make a "wake" on retrieval if there is air in it.  Does this spook the fish?      Do I go  s  -  l  -  o  -  w  , slow, medium, stop and go, or what on retrieve speed.        What kind of flies are the best for this, name and size, please. Do I put floating goop on them to keep them up, or let them become waterlogged and sink?      Do I put a strike indicator, or some tiny float ahead of the fly to keep it up?  If I use large flies like wooly worms, how far down do I let them sink?      I have a secret envy when watching fly fishermen lay that tiny fly down on a ripple way out there.  Just beautiful!  I think sometime they have a secret envy when I show up with $ 20 worth of gear and catch more than they did.      I appreciate all the help.  Steve All replies will be held in the strictest of confidence.

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:      I KNOW, I KNOW!  For reasons I do not need to give here, I cannot : fish in the conventional way with a flyrod.  I use the castabubble and : 6 ft. leader technique.   I can but choose not to most of the time. :      If there are any other practitioners of this secret practice, I : have some questions.  You can e-mail me secretly and anonymously if you : like to keep your closet castabubble practice a secret. No shame in that. I do it quite often when fishing a lake from the shore. It enables me to cast much further out into the lake than with a fly rod when using dry flies or small artificials. :      Do I fill up the castabubble completely, or leave some air in it? : It seems to make a "wake" on retrieval if there is air in it.  Does : this spook the fish? Suit yourself. I generally leave them half full so I can see them. :      Do I go  s  -  l  -  o  -  w  , slow, medium, stop and go, or what : on retrieve speed.   Depends on the lure. With a dry fly I just give it a twitch every once in a while. With a spinner I keep it going fast enough for the blades to spin. :      What kind of flies are the best for this, name and size, please. : Do I put floating goop on them to keep them up, or let them become : waterlogged and sink? Gotta match them to the local conditions. There is no right or wrong answer. :      Do I put a strike indicator, or some tiny float ahead of the fly : to keep it up?  If I use large flies like wooly worms, how far down do : I let them sink? It depends but the Castabubble is all you really need. It’ll take a sudden move just before you feel the strike :      I have a secret envy when watching fly fishermen lay that tiny fly : down on a ripple way out there.  Just beautiful!  I think sometime they : have a secret envy when I show up with $ 20 worth of gear and catch : more than they did. It takes patience and practice. I generally use a fly rod for streams and a Spinning rod for lakes. Other times I take whats easiest to toss in the pickup and head out. BiNM

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    I KNOW, I KNOW!  For reasons I do not need to give here, I cannot fish in the conventional way with a flyrod.  I use the castabubble and 6 ft. leader technique.       If there are any other practitioners of this secret practice, I have some questions.  You can e-mail me secretly and anonymously if you like to keep your closet castabubble practice a secret.

Secret practice?  I’ve probably been using this technique for 15 years though I now do all my flyfishing with a flyrod.     Do I fill up the castabubble completely, or leave some air in it?

Depends on the fly you’re using.  If you’re fishing a dry or wet (grey hackle peacocks are killer with this technique) fill the bubble half to 3/4 full.  You can still chuck it a long way.  If the fish aren’t hitting the surface put on a nymph, streamer, or emerger and fill the bubble up completely.  I used to use the kind of bubbles with just a plastic sleeve in the middle.  I’d run the line through and tie it to a small swivel and then my leader to that.  When the bubble is full it has pretty much a neutral bouyancy and the addition of the swivel and optionally a small split shot will slowely sink it.  Cast it out and use a count down technique before starting your retrieve until you find what depth the fish are.  You can also replace the nymph is a 1-1.5" piece of night crawler and fish it the same way. It seems to make a "wake" on retrieval if there is air in it.  Does this spook the fish?

I don’t think so.  I’ve had some high Sierra brookies hit the bubble on occasion.     Do I go  s  -  l  -  o  -  w  , slow, medium, stop and go, or what on retrieve speed.  

S-l-o-w, when you’re fishing a fly on the surface or just below it, short jerks for nymphs or streamers.     What kind of flies are the best for this, name and size, please. Do I put floating goop on them to keep them up, or let them become waterlogged and sink?     Do I put a strike indicator, or some tiny float ahead of the fly to keep it up?  If I use large flies like wooly worms, how far down do I let them sink?

See above.  The type of fly, whether to use floatant, and the depth are all dependant upon where the fish are feeding.  Rather then use a strike indicator a couple of dots of flourescant paint on the bubble would serve the same purpose, though I’ve never needed to do that. — John Fereira Isis Distributed Systems – Ithaca, NY

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Sorry about the previous post – I am trying to get used to posting through Netscape and I am making a lot of mistakes. My question is this :         1. When I cast, my flyline and leader go out fine, but my tippet            often lands in jumbled mess. What might I be doing wrong? I                am using a 6wt rod, DT6F line, a 9ft 5X leader, and 5X tippet              (about 18 inches). I normally use size 14 or 16 nymphs and dry            flies. Thanks in advance for any help!

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        1. When I cast, my flyline and leader go out fine, but my tippet            often lands in jumbled mess. What might I be doing wrong? I                am using a 6wt rod, DT6F line, a 9ft 5X leader, and 5X tippet              (about 18 inches). I normally use size 14 or 16 nymphs and dry  

Check that leader is straight before you cast, i.e. pull it through your fingers (or a small piece of rubber) until straight. Leader design should be 40% (of length) stiff butt, 20% floppy tippet, remainder stepping down (say 0.016" to 0.008").  If in doubt, buy famous-brand knotted leaders, e.g. Orvis.  If you knot your own, you can customize fully. Excessive forward push on the casting stroke can cause fly to bounce back on loose loops of tippet (deliberately in some fishing situations.) — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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Sorry about the previous post – I am trying to get used to posting through Netscape and I am making a lot of mistakes. My question is this :        1. When I cast, my flyline and leader go out fine, but my tippet           often lands in jumbled mess. What might I be doing wrong? I               am using a 6wt rod, DT6F line, a 9ft 5X leader, and 5X tippet             (about 18 inches). I normally use size 14 or 16 nymphs and dry           flies. Thanks in advance for any help!

Two thoughts Jeff:         1) Try using a heavier leader, some of the tapered variety are good.             This will provide stiffness, which aids the turn over of your             tippet. You can then add your tippet to the end of the leader.             It might be a good idea to use a 5′ leader at first, they are             easier to control, when you have mastered that then progress             to the 9′ leaded.         2) With seeing you cast its difficult to offer advice but a common             fault with  many casting techniques is that the angler casts at             the water rather than at eye level. If when you cast you aim at             the water then the fly line, leader and tippet are not given             sufficent time to turn over, resulting in your line landing in a             heap on the water. If you cast aiming at the horizon or eye level             this will give time for the turn over to be completed and your             tackle to land in a straight line. I hope they might prove to be of some help for you.         Tight lines                         Chris

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Don’t listen to what other people say , get new line if it is knicked.If you can find these colors they work good. 1.Trout-green;blue 2.Salmon-orange;yellow 3.Pike-gray;brown 4.Bass-dark green;mud                                                     Fellow Fisherman,                                                        Mr.Oralando

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Don’t listen to what other people say , get new line if it is knicked.If you can find these colors they work good. 1.Trout-green;blue 2.Salmon-orange;yellow 3.Pike-gray;brown 4.Bass-dark green;mud                        Fellow Fisherman,                            Mr.Oralando

Um…Er…Uh…Aw, never mind….(sigh) /dave (To KF or Not To KF: That is the Question ;^) <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< < Digital Equipment Corp.    Alpha Server Engineering  < <         "Read this and nobody gets hurt ;^)"         < <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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Don’t listen to what other people say , get new line if it is knicked.If you can find these colors they work good. 1.Trout-green;blue 2.Salmon-orange;yellow 3.Pike-gray;brown 4.Bass-dark green;mud

I started to respond to this,  but got so confused by the above message I forgot what I was going to say. Ernie Harrison

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: 1.Trout-green;blue : 2.Salmon-orange;yellow : 3.Pike-gray;brown : 4.Bass-dark green;mud :                        Fellow Fisherman, :                            Mr.Oralando : /dave (To KF or Not To KF: That is the Question ;^) Now, now.  Be nice. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    |  These University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    |  opinions Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. |  are mine.

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Would appreciate info on flyfishing opportunities in Nevada and Southwestern Utah.  Best times, fly types, locations, etc. Thanks to all.

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Would appreciate info on flyfishing opportunities in Nevada and Southwestern Utah.  Best times, fly types, locations, etc. Thanks to all.

William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA

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Hi,    There is some excellent fishing up in the northeastern part of Nevada. While most of the flyfishing is floattube reservoir oriented, there are some stream fisheries.   The season is year around, techniques and locations change with the seasons. Winter means ice on most of the stillwaters, and that severely limits flyfishing. The tailwater fisheries below Wildhorse Reservoir and South Fork Reservoir stay open water in all but the coldest temperatures. The Collection Ditch at the Ruby Marshes also stays open and provides some good winter nymphing.   Early spring is the best fishing, and it is winding down at this time. Big rainbows head up the South Fork of the Humboldt above the reservoir starting at ice off and they can be caught on nymphs or midges. Near the inlets on all the reservoirs will show some fish on these techniques. The Collection Ditch at the Marshes and some of the Marsh areas produce big trout at this time (the Ditch collects the springs and routes the water to the various units–it is really a big spring creek)  Big runnoff time, which we are into now, generally means muddy water and the small waters and the Marsh are the best as they don’t get as muddy.  Post runoff finds the streams dropping and you can get into some of the areas like the Bruneau and Jarbidge river systems and these have good dry fly fishing for trout. The bass action starts to improve and three pound smallmouths on a flyrod will almost make you forget about trout.   Summer and warming water shifts the good fishing to the early mornings or after sunset–you can fish this area on almost all waters as long as the casinos stay open…   Fall fishing is excellent. The browns start spawning about the time the first frosts cut the bug populations. Most of the anglers have given up for the season, but the fishing is great.   That’s the year in a nutshell. There’s 1100 miles of streams and about 50 lake and reservoirs in the county, so it would take a book for specifics. Tight Lines, Jim, Nevada Jim’s Outdoor Sports, Elko, NV

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         My view on people who have sold out is someone who used to make good,    innovative, sometimes dangerous music who signed to a major and now seem intent    on making enourmous amounts of money playing dull, uninteresting music made with    a safe formula and relying on media hype to boost their income.             My list of major sell-outs would include:-                  the Rolling Stones, Genesis, M.Jackson, Madonna, Guns ‘n’ Roses           (you get the message) To the ones underlined (using "^"): I do not recall that they _ever_ pretended to be "alternative" at any time. They were _always_ mainstream from the outset. By this technicality and by your reasoning, they cannot be sellouts, since none of them were ever "innovative" or "dangerous" by your (and my own) criteria at any time in their carreers, in my opinion.  

        I stand corrected, on re-reading what I had written I can see that I had      slipped out of context for a while. I think I went away from the subject      (i.e. "alternative" music) and instead lingered on the sell-out topic.         What I tried to say (not very clearly) is that these people had made a      large quantity of good music that amassed them a very large fan-base, but when       their music quality dropped to a sub-standard level their record sales        (and hence their income) stayed at a high level due to media hype.

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        Personally I think Nevermind was pretty much a sellout album, with me it hasen’t stood the test of time, or maybe it was just overplayed too much. — Richard Stride… ‘Master Myoclonis Meets Mephisto’

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[Stuff Deleted ...] To the "alternative" loser,   I was listening to alternative music before it was grouped into a catagory     -Isn’t this a contradiction, surely you’ve categorised alternative music.     I can’t speak for people in America, but in England "alternative" music is just   that – an alternative. It’s not a type of music, you don’t listen to a song and   think "Oh yeah, that’s alternative". It’s a category into which you can slot   many types, styles and fashions – i.e. Punk, Metal, Grunge, crusty, indie etc, etc.

Same here in Canada. And I get annoyed over such interpretations of "alternative" for the same reasons.          My view on people who have sold out is someone who used to make good,    innovative, sometimes dangerous music who signed to a major and now seem intent    on making enourmous amounts of money playing dull, uninteresting music made with    a safe formula and relying on media hype to boost their income.             My list of major sell-outs would include:-                  the Rolling Stones, Genesis, M.Jackson, Madonna, Guns ‘n’ Roses

          (you get the message)

To the ones underlined (using "^"): I do not recall that they _ever_ pretended to be "alternative" at any time. They were _always_ mainstream from the outset. By this technicality and by your reasoning, they cannot be sellouts, since none of them were ever "innovative" or "dangerous" by your (and my own) criteria at any time in their carreers, in my opinion.  Sure, the Stones began their carreers with much controversy and were known as "the Bad Boys of rock and roll" and still are; but IMO, they were merely attracting attention to themselves for commercial gain and success based on the free publicity of the news media. Their "cock-rock" musical style hasn’t changed in the past 30 years, qualifying them as probably more "conservative", and less versatile, IMO, than Frank Sinatra. Same for Madonna’s "cunt-rock" style. The unchanging nature of her music kind of ranks up there with Marie Osmond. BTW, you can also add Paul Simon, and most "resurrected" ’60s rock groups, like Starship (the most extreme example), The Greatful Dead, CSN&Y, Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton (all playing it safe to a lesser extent), and Elton John (another extreme example — recall 11-17-70, Empty Sky, Yellowbrick Road & compare with ANYTHING he’s done since 1980). —

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Hiya, Could someone help me make an informed decision and post the track listing for the latest Pavement album. Thanks, E. |                                 Eric J.                                     |

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        Where the hell has anyone seen a ripped sweater for $300 for crissake!?!?  This I gotta see…js

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How do you think I must feel? I’ve been listening to snotty nosed little dweebs whining about poser’s since grade 10. Ten years ago.

wow, you were in the 10th grade in ‘83, me too.  do you remember the really bad post-punk bands of the day.  too bad i missed out on the poser bashing.  you know what’s really funny:  i still were the same clothes i did then.  then i was called a dirt-boy, now you can buy a ripped sweater for $300.  go figger. —                                   Jeff Scott

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To all the "alternative" losers,         I have a little news for you.  You all seem to think that you are just the coolest calling bands sell-outs and making fun of all the ‘grunge’ dressers.  I’ve been sitting here reading your little arguementative articles and I think you’re all full of crap.  I was listening to alternative music before it was grouped into a catagory and just because some of my favorie bands happen to have had maybe one album hit mainstream doesn’t mean that now I should change my taste in music.  It also doesn’t mean I won’t be attending Lollapalooza’s anymore.  Those were some of the best times of my life and will be for years to come (hopefully).  It really turns my stomach to read about your opinions.  Maybe if you weren’t so close-minded you’d realize how stupid you really sound.  I didn’t post this to get a hostile response, only to make you think.  Really, you do sound like a bunch of losers. Sorry.         -Joanna

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – To all the "alternative" losers,    I have a little news for you.  You all seem to think that you are just the coolest calling bands sell-outs and making fun of all the ‘grunge’ dressers.  I’ve been sitting here reading your little arguementative articles and I think you’re all full of crap.  I was listening to alternative music before it was grouped into a catagory and just because some of my favorie bands happen to have had maybe one album hit mainstream doesn’t mean that now I should change my taste in music.  It also doesn’t mean I won’t be attending Lollapalooza’s anymore.  Those were some of the best times of my life and will be for years to come (hopefully).  It really turns my stomach to read about your opinions.  Maybe if you weren’t so close-minded you’d realize how stupid you really sound.  I didn’t post this to get a hostile response, only to make you think.  Really, you do sound like a bunch of losers. Sorry.    -Joanna

yes!!! i posted an article to this effect a little while ago. i thought the whole idea of the mindset that this newsgroup is supposed to represent was being open to new things. lets stop bitching about who liked what groups when, and what groups have sold out because they need to make a living. lets start discussing music for what it is… music. its not grunge, its not alternative, its not rock, its not punk, and its not even disco. its fucking music. those terms are good as catagories for easier identification. kind of like male and female. that is all they are. what matters is the music. burnt

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How do you think I must feel? I’ve been listening to snotty nosed little dweebs whining about poser’s since grade 10. Ten years ago. —                                    Jeff Scott

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – To all the "alternative" losers,    I have a little news for you.  You all seem to think that you are just the coolest calling bands sell-outs and making fun of all the ‘grunge’ dressers.  I’ve been sitting here reading your little arguementative articles and I think you’re all full of crap.  I was listening to alternative music before it was grouped into a catagory and just because some of my favorie bands happen to have had maybe one album hit mainstream doesn’t mean that now I should change my taste in music.  It also doesn’t mean I won’t be attending Lollapalooza’s anymore.  Those were some of the best times of my life and will be for years to come (hopefully).  It really turns my stomach to read about your opinions.  Maybe if you weren’t so close-minded you’d realize how stupid you really sound.  I didn’t post this to get a hostile response, only to make you think.  Really, you do sound like a bunch of losers. Sorry.    -Joanna

To the "alternative" loser,     I was listening to alternative music before it was grouped into a catagory      -Isn’t this a contradiction, surely you’ve categorised alternative music.      I can’t speak for people in America, but in England "alternative" music is just    that – an alternative. It’s not a type of music, you don’t listen to a song and    think "Oh yeah, that’s alternative". It’s a category into which you can slot    many types, styles and fashions – i.e. Punk, Metal, Grunge, crusty, indie etc, etc.          What it’s an alternative to is the "mainstream". This is nothing more than     an enourmous financial institution providing financial security and massive     wealth to many "rock stars". Corporate back-handers ensure radio and TV play     to boring, and safe music makers. These bands are of course not all guilty     many just using the extra spending powers to produce better music (mostly former     indie bands who have signed to majors).           My view on people who have sold out is someone who used to make good,     innovative, sometimes dangerous music who signed to a major and now seem intent     on making enourmous amounts of money playing dull, uninteresting music made with     a safe formula and relying on media hype to boost their income.              My list of major sell-outs would include:-                   the Rolling Stones, Genesis, M.Jackson, Miss Madonna, Guns ‘n’ Roses            (you get the message)            Bands who I think are getting dangerously close to sell-out time                    (their records are getting more and more boring):-                            U2, REM, and Simple Minds         There are countless bands I could add, but I’m not going to (so there).             I don’t think people can be critical of Nirvana yet as they haven’t        released any new material, everything they’ve released since Nevermind was        recorded before Nevermind. They could go on to write better songs      (like Mettalica have) they could progress back to their old (and less popular)   style which is more likely or they could come up with some absolute bollocks.                 Time will tell.           Meanwhile people’s opinion will come and go, birds will fly, fish will swim       and polar bears will do whatever it is polar bears do.          So my dear Joanna, let people say what they want, insults breed nothing but contempt and statements like,             It really turns my stomach to read about your opinions.          Don’t say much for freedom of speech, do they.                       Bye,                         Rob

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