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Things seemed to have calmed down between you and rw, yet you persist in stirring the pot once again.  What is to be gained from this? "It’s useless info, totally useless info, one way or the other, just like an indentation in the Budweiser can is totally useless info to a guy quaffing a beer." While I didn’t find the "haul and load" thread of much interest, as I am likely to be the least literate and/or intelligent Roffian on the face of the Earth, it seems that several other ROFFians were quite engaged in the discussion.  I rarely get involved in the more technical discussions pertaining to flyfishing, primarily because of my limited intellect, but I find it difficult to disparage others for doing so. Opie  —-

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Opie writes: While I didn’t find the "haul and load" thread of much interest, as I am likely to be the least literate and/or intelligent Roffian on the face of the Earth, it seems that several other ROFFians were quite engaged in the discussion.  I rarely get involved in the more technical discussions pertaining to flyfishing, primarily because of my limited intellect, but I find it difficult to disparage others for doing so. Opie  —-

You shouldn’t feel that way, Op.  Hell, someone is selling all my books and they have a thread about it "Pirate Book Sale".  Shoot, I haven’t finished looking at all the pictures yet and someone is selling all 4 of ‘em.  I just *know* Jo bought me  the FoF Fly Pattern Enclopedia and it has lots of pictures. Merry Christmas Dave L.

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Dave LaCourse Pirate and Bottom Dweller

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Ok, make that the second least intelligent ROFFian on Earth! — Opie  –Planning for the Past–

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I just *know* Jo bought me  the FoF Fly Pattern Enclopedia and it has lots of pictures.

I hope you get that one. It looks like it would be a great book. — Charlie…

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Charlie: I just *know* Jo bought me  the FoF Fly Pattern Enclopedia and it has lots of pictures. I hope you get that one. It looks like it would be a great book. — Charlie…

I did!  And, it *is*! Dave

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I hope you get that one. It looks like it would be a great book.

It IS a great book. — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas

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*know* Jo bought me  the FoF Fly Pattern Enclopedia and it has lots of pictures. I hope you get that one. It looks like it would be a great book. — Charlie…

It is a great book. I hope you get a chance to visit with the editors sometime. Al and Gretchen are some of the nicest people in the fly fishing business. If anyone is going to be in the Dallas area on Jan 13,  they are doing an all day seminar for the Dallas Flyfishers on that Saturday. Send me an e-mail iif you need further information. Al was the recepient of the Buzzack Award a couple of years ago, but I am not so sure that he ties any better than Gretchen. Big Dale

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I am planning a trip to Ixtapa, Mexico in March and was hoping someone might have some information on fly fishing opportunities in the area.  The brochures mainly describe fishing for swordfish, but I am hoping there might be a guide that specializes in fly fishing.  Thanks in advance for your help. Rob

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There are bones and snook and even some tarpon inside the sand bars. BUT!!! be prepared. They re all SMALL. Bones average in 1-2# range with snook averaging only at about 2-3# the only tarpon I have ever caouht or seen there have never been over 10# Dont get me wrong they are all great figters and take a fly readilly but just dont go looking for Keys sized fish there. Have fun with ‘em

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I am visiting Acapulco the week of Feb 6-15 and will be also visiting a lake in the mountains outside of Acapulco…. 1.  where can i find more (basic) info on the saltwater flyfishing opportunities nearby?  i have zero experience in salt water. 2.  can i flyfish in the nearby lakes and what am i likely to catch? PS  Thanks to whomever described the construction of schedule 40 pvc rod tubes.  I went to home depot and  bought all the stuff i needed for two bombproof rod tubes for only $12!  I replaced a couple of cheap black scott rod tubes.  Those things were worthless at temps above 75 degrees, thin, black, abs tubing. I’d love to do some fishing in Mexico….. bruiser

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am visiting Acapulco the week of Feb 6-15 and will be also visiting a lake in the mountains outside of Acapulco…. 1.  where can i find more (basic) info on the saltwater flyfishing opportunities nearby?  i have zero experience in salt water. 2.  can i flyfish in the nearby lakes and what am i likely to catch? PS  Thanks to whomever described the construction of schedule 40 pvc rod tubes.  I went to home depot and  bought all the stuff i needed for two bombproof rod tubes for only $12!  I replaced a couple of cheap black scott rod tubes. Those things were worthless at temps above 75 degrees, thin, black, abs tubing. I’d love to do some fishing in Mexico….. bruiser

Largemouth Bass or cichlids  (Peacock Bass family).  You can’t go wrong with black leach patterns.

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Try www.fish-r-us.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am visiting Acapulco the week of Feb 6-15 and will be also visiting a lake in the mountains outside of Acapulco…. 1.  where can i find more (basic) info on the saltwater flyfishing opportunities nearby?  i have zero experience in salt water. 2.  can i flyfish in the nearby lakes and what am i likely to catch? PS  Thanks to whomever described the construction of schedule 40 pvc rod tubes.  I went to home depot and  bought all the stuff i needed for two bombproof rod tubes for only $12!  I replaced a couple of cheap black scott rod tubes. Those things were worthless at temps above 75 degrees, thin, black, abs tubing. I’d love to do some fishing in Mexico….. bruiser

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Is there every any type of fly fishing expo/shows in KY, Tennessee or West Virginia? I live in KY and want to start learning and trying fly fishing in the spring of 2000.  What would be the best way to start.  I already have a rod and reel with some flies, but dont know what to do with them or how. Please advise

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Suggest you buy a little book called "Curtis Creek Manifesto" as a start. Its in an adult comic type format. Don’t be put off by this. Its a serious and great intro to the sport. Ideal for the self teacher. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there every any type of fly fishing expo/shows in KY, Tennessee or West Virginia? I live in KY and want to start learning and trying fly fishing in the spring of 2000.  What would be the best way to start.  I already have a rod and reel with some flies, but dont know what to do with them or how. Please advise

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Library (books and videos)  Tackle shops (networking, local chapters of trout unlimited and other fly tying/fishing groups) reading this group and – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is there every any type of fly fishing expo/shows in KY, Tennessee or West Virginia? I live in KY and want to start learning and trying fly fishing in the spring of 2000.  What would be the best way to start.  I already have a rod and reel with some flies, but dont know what to do with them or how. Please advise

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I’ve been a little puzzled by how many fish I’ve hooked by "accident" when I take up a dry fly for another cast. I’m sure this happens sometimes just by chance. I’ve done a LOT of fishing this year and caught hundreds of trout, but it seems like it happens too often for chance alone. I’m wondering whether a trout inspecting a fly, deciding whether it’s something to eat, might be stimulated to strike by the take up, thinking that the morsel is getting away. It seems to happen most often when the fly is soaked, it may be riding just below the surface, and I can’t see it. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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I’ve been a little puzzled by how many fish I’ve hooked by "accident". . .  It seems to happen most often when the fly is soaked, it may be riding just below the surface, and I can’t see it.

Dear Royal, Try doing it on purpose sometime.  Research the Lessinring (sic?) Lift.  Use a caddis pupa nymph. "By accident" is when you’re standing by the river’s edge with the rod tucked under your arm and the fly trailing down below you in the current while you try to light up a smoke–and some big bruiser comes up and wallops your fly. As ever, Anglerboy — Trout fear me, Women want me.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been a little puzzled by how many fish I’ve hooked by "accident" when I take up a dry fly for another cast. I’m sure this happens sometimes just by chance. I’ve done a LOT of fishing this year and caught hundreds of trout, but it seems like it happens too often for chance alone. I’m wondering whether a trout inspecting a fly, deciding whether it’s something to eat, might be stimulated to strike by the take up, thinking that the morsel is getting away. It seems to happen most often when the fly is soaked, it may be riding just below the surface, and I can’t see it. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

No accident, they think it’s an emerger.  I picked up a bunch of brookies on the Credit yestrerday and got to watch a half dozen or so work right in front of me.  They were after BWO duns and were often leaping after emerging duns. Some caddis species dive to lay eggs (so do BWOs) so a dragging, sunken caddis can look like an egg laying female.  I caught my very first rainbow while dragging a caddis as I walked upstream. Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.cgocable.net/~pcharles/index.html

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RW, I have had this happen to me as well, and best I can gues, the fish think it is some kind of emerger.. it usually happnes to me when i fish caddis flies. edwin – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been a little puzzled by how many fish I’ve hooked by "accident" when I take up a dry fly for another cast. I’m sure this happens sometimes just by chance. I’ve done a LOT of fishing this year and caught hundreds of trout, but it seems like it happens too often for chance alone. I’m wondering whether a trout inspecting a fly, deciding whether it’s something to eat, might be stimulated to strike by the take up, thinking that the morsel is getting away. It seems to happen most often when the fly is soaked, it may be riding just below the surface, and I can’t see it. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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Many insects do burst through the surface film and/or suddendly take off from it, and this does indeed trigger many fish into believing the imitation is real and taking it. Other fish just seem nuts for something that moves.  Skated dry flies often take steelhead, and I just returned from Alaska where skated dry flies (skated in a very un-natural way) excited arctic grayling and northern pike into hard surface hits. Especially when lake fishing, where most water insects have far stronger swimming capability than their stream counterparts, I always draw out the "take up" after a lengthy retrieve and before lifting all the line and starting the next cast. Thomas Gilg

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There is a small creek in WA where I fish for Brookies and they actually prefer a dry caddis just under the surface on the swing.  I even pause a bit at the end of the swing and strip in quick two-inches at a time and pause. That will drive them crazy. Rooster – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve been a little puzzled by how many fish I’ve hooked by "accident" when I take up a dry fly for another cast. I’m sure this happens sometimes just by chance.

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Was last there five years ago and am thinking of going again in August and know they have a new system for permits with a new automated Provincial Parc permit phone # and all (which I have), but I’m not sure of my dates yet so I have a simple question: Is the system basically the same now as it was before, i.e., you call, reserve your permit, but then gotta pick it up and pay at one of the Ranger stations at the entry points?         Thanks in advance. Sure wish those folks designing these automated tele systems would think about how to provide a way to get some simple information in addition to providing rote services. tgb

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Is the system basically the

same now as it was before, i.e., you call, reserve your permit, but then gotta pick it up and pay at one of the Ranger stations at the entry points? I was sending my answer, when aol decided to close down, so I may be posting this twice. I just received my Remote Area Border Crossing Permit today. Since most or all of the remote customs areas have been closed, you either have to do it by mail or check in at a spot that may not be near your crossing. By mail. they want a photocopy of Birth Certificate and $30 per person or family. Mine took about 2 weeks to process. Dave http://members.tripod.com/~VideoDave

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In response to my question as to permits for Quetico camping DavesVideo I just received my Remote Area Border Crossing Permit today. Since most or all of the remote customs areas have been closed, you either have to do it by mail or check in at a spot that may not be near your crossing. By mail. they want a photocopy of Birth Certificate and $30 per person or family. Mine took about 2 weeks to process.

        Nah Dave, that’s a different thing. That’s for when you want to cross the Border at a … remote point of entry. But, for instance, if you are gonna go into the Parc from one of the northern entry points, and gonna come in from, say, Atikokan, and cross the border at Int’l Falls or Pigeon River, then you don’t need that, and that’s what I’m gonna do. That’s a permit to cross the border, needed at certain remote spots. What I’m interested in is the permit for camping. And my question again is whether the system for these is the same as it used to be: you call, reserve a permit for X date entry, then hafta pick same up at a Ranger station at the Parc when you go in, at which point you also pay. Answer anyone? tgb

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We’re doing the same thing this year – reserve permits and pick them up at a rangers station. For what it’s worth, we reserved our permits back in Feb which was before the new system was put into place. Was last there five years ago and am thinking of going again in August and know they have a new system for permits with a new automated Provincial Parc permit phone # and all (which I have), but I’m not sure of my dates yet so I have a simple question: Is the system basically the same now as it was before, i.e., you call, reserve your permit, but then gotta pick it up and pay at one of the Ranger stations at the entry points?    Thanks in advance. Sure wish those folks designing these automated tele systems would think about how to provide a way to get some simple information in addition to providing rote services. tgb

- Mark Chun Santa Barbara, CA

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In response to my post asking about current Quetico permit processes qrk We’re doing the same thing this year – reserve permits and pick them up at a rangers station. For what it’s worth, we reserved our permits back in Feb which was before the new system was put into place.

        Hey, thanks, and for what it’s worth I found out I’m already screwed. Called to get a permit (finally nailed down my possible dates of entry) and they seem to have zip available for Aug. 12, 13, 14, etc. at entry points not also requiring one of these new remote border crossing permits. Arrgg.         Anyone know of any nice lakes/areas up around SW Ontario not in Quetico where you can find some solitude, nice canoeing, and good smallmouth fly-fishing? Smallmouth just ain’t all that common once you get out of that neck of the woods. tgb

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The historic Antrim Lodge, located in Roscoe, New York is falling into a state of disrepair.  We recently relocated to Roscoe from New Jersey, and are renovating our own 100-year old victorian, but we hate to see the last of the Roscoe hotels go to seed. Now, we’re not into the real estate business and this is not a for sale ad since we have absolutely no connection to this place other than it being two blocks away from our home.  What we’re wondering is whether there exists any individual(s) interested in looking at this place to see what can be done with it.  We’d be happy to coordinate a meeting, perhaps on opening day or the weekend afterward…If no one single individual can handle it, then maybe some form of limited partnership. Of course, the highest and best use for this place would be a flyfishing club, restaurant and possible fishing-related shops.  But’s it’s been vacant for three years, and needs a lot of work.  Paint peeling off inside and out, mechanicals need to be brought up to code, etc., and redesign of rooms…. Originally and currently set up for 23 "fisherman" rooms, most of which have no common or shared bathroom.  Two stone fireplaces, one on the lower level in the "great room", and one on the main floor near the entrance where a new restaurant should be located.  Large "modern" stainless steel kitchen, but wasting away thru non-use.  Parking for about 26 cars, large mature trees on 1-1/2 acre lot. Lot’s of fishing greats have stayed at, drank at, and told their Beaverkill stories at the Antrim.  Built in the late 19th century and originally known as Central House, the Antrim now has good highway visibility, easy access off the Southern Tier thruway system, and within walking distance to the Beaverkill River.  There are two flyfishing specialty shops in Roscoe, Donegal’s and the Beaverkill Angler (an Orvis shop). Roscoe has some resident local nature artists, and the area has recently seen an influx of New York City expats. The Antrim has been for sale for the past couple years, and the asking price has been about $250,000.  I believe a renovation could add another $150-250,000 so it’s not a little project.  Those old rooms need to probably be combined to make about ten larger rooms with private bath…maybe a group of new owners could each own a room or develop a time share.  But let’s consider doing -something- with this place. The previous restaurant operation at the Antrim was run by a fine Greek gentleman, but the Greek food turned off the locals and visiting fishermen alike.  We need to see traditional American sportsman dining there amidst Adirondack style decor.   If you have some interest, and a measure of potential resource to back it up, please let us know, and we’ll see if we can coordinate a meeting.  The annual Catskill Flyfishing Center’s dinner and auction is also coming up on the Calendar scheduled for the weekend after opening day in case your planning on coming up this way. Email us if your interested…let’s see what we can make happen. Cheers, Marie Wisco

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The historic Antrim Lodge, located in Roscoe, New York is falling into a state of disrepair.  <snip

I wish I had 1/2 million I had no other use for!  I remember my first reading on flyfishing mentioning the Antrim – a favorite of many of the great personalities of Fly Fishing. Zern, Gingrich, etc.  It must have been wonderful. It is more than a shame that this grand old place has fallen on such hard times. Todays realities are that such places are often doomed to decay.  The investment required is substantial, and the return not likely to be great. It would be wonderful if some Very Rich Person, came along and made it a lifes work.  It would be a better world knowing places like the Antrim live and that one day I might belly to the bar there. </chaz — "resistance is futile"

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I am planning a trip to Mayville WI. sometime in the spring or summer. I want to do a little flyfishing need a little help on where to go in the area. Mayville is due south of Fond du Lac maybe 20 miles and west of Hywy 41 by about 10 or so. I havent been there for 30 years but want to combine a trip to visit relatives with some fishing. I live in Seattle and do mostly lake fishing here and I want to do river or stream fishing back there. Any suggestions?

Martin:         You might want to indicate what kind of fishing you are interested in. For steelhead/salmon on Lake Michigan’s tribs, or inland? Warmwater or cold? How far you willing to travel? tgb

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Try this site: — http://www.execpc.com/~glsfc/fish_wi

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am planning a trip to Mayville WI. sometime in the spring or summer. I want to do a little flyfishing need a little help on where to go in the area. Mayville is due south of Fond du Lac maybe 20 miles and west of Hywy 41 by about 10 or so. I havent been there for 30 years but want to combine a trip to visit relatives with some fishing. I live in Seattle and do mostly lake fishing here and I want to do river or stream fishing back there. Any suggestions? Martin:         You might want to indicate what kind of fishing you are interested in. For steelhead/salmon on Lake Michigan’s tribs, or inland? Warmwater or cold? How far you willing to travel? tgb

My fishing is for small fish. Hopefully trout but bass or blugill would be OK. I am going to use a 8 ft. 5 wt. fly rod. I would really like to do only streams as that is what I want to learn. I will have to rent a car there so a hours drive would be just perfect. 2 hours would be pushing it but possible if the reward was there. Thanks for the suggestion.

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I am planning a trip to Mayville WI. sometime in the spring or summer. I want to do a little flyfishing need a little help on where to go in the area. Mayville is due south of Fond du Lac maybe 20 miles and west of Hywy 41 by about 10 or so. I havent been there for 30 years but want to combine a trip to visit relatives with some fishing. I live in Seattle and do mostly lake fishing here and I want to do river or stream fishing back there… My fishing is for small fish. Hopefully trout but bass or blugill would be OK. I am going to use a 8 ft. 5 wt. fly rod. I would really like to do only streams as that is what I want to learn. I will have to rent a car there so a hours drive would be just perfect. 2 hours would be pushing it but possible if the reward was there.

Martin:         Let me do a little thinking and map looking and I’ll get back to you. I’m not in that area but know of it and might be able to help. A couple of nice streams suggest themselves right off but I’d rather try to look first and advise later rather than mucking things up the other way around.         You know one of the problems with doing what you are thinking of doing can be best realized by imagining a guy coming to your area and trying to have a good time of it without a scintilla of the hard-won experience you’ve got as to where to go, when, using what equipment, flies, etc., etc. I.e., it might make sense to think about getting a guide if you can swing the dough? Even if only for a 1/2 day (if they go along with same); sometimes they can turn you on to just enough that you can take it from there.         But I’ll get back to you with what I can dig up about the area you’ll be visiting in any case. Tom Burczyk The workings of great institutions is mainly the result of a vast mass of routine, petty malice, self-interest, carelessness, and sheer mistake. Only a residual fraction is thought." Santayana

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I am planning a trip to Mayville WI. sometime in the spring or summer. I want to do a little flyfishing need a little help on where to go in the area. Mayville is due south of Fond du Lac maybe 20 miles and west of Hywy 41 by about 10 or so. I havent been there for 30 years but want to combine a trip to visit relatives with some fishing. I live in Seattle and do mostly lake fishing here and I want to do river or stream fishing back there. Any suggestions? Martin — Martin Jensen

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I’m planning a trip to the Portland, Oregon area the first week of October.  Can anybody provide advice on rivers, lakes, oceans, etc. for fishing, including spin and bait fishing for sturgeon, walleyes, steelhead, etc.  I will also need a guide for one day.  Can anyone personally recommend someone? Thanks for your help, Mike

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I’m planning a trip to the Portland, Oregon area the first week of October.  Can anybody provide advice on rivers, lakes, oceans, etc. for

                                                        ^^^^^^ I’d suggest the Pacific, just for ease of access. — Derek R. Larson           Indiana University        Dept. of History                 "Nothing interesting occurred today…"         -Meriwether Lewis at Ft. Clatsop, Oregon, Jan.4th, 1806

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writes: I’m planning a trip to the Portland, Oregon area the first week of October.  Can anybody provide advice on rivers, lakes, oceans, etc. for fishing, including spin and bait fishing for sturgeon, walleyes, steelhead, etc.  I will also need a guide for one day.  Can anyone personally recommend someone?

    In that time slot, I’d try the Upper Clackamas for late summer steelhead and/or the Wilson for searun cutthroats, both pretty close to town.  Glenn Young of Beaverton OR is a very good guide for ffing in the Tillamook Bay area, but I can’t find his phone number –perhaps another ROFFer can supply it. –Roger, Portland

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: I’m planning a trip to the Portland, Oregon area the first week of October.  Can anybody provide advice on rivers, lakes, oceans, etc. for fishing, including spin and bait fishing for sturgeon, walleyes, steelhead, etc.  I will also need a guide for one day.  Can anyone personally recommend someone?    In that time slot, I’d try the Upper Clackamas for late summer steelhead and/or the Wilson for searun cutthroats, both pretty close to town.  Glenn Young of Beaverton OR is a very good guide for ffing in the Tillamook Bay area, but I can’t find his phone number –perhaps another ROFFer can supply it. –Roger, Portland

I show that the number is 503-642-4570 for Glenn Young. Don Chen Mid-Willamette Fly Fishers (Corvallis, Oregon)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: I’m planning a trip to the Portland, Oregon area the first week of October.  Can anybody provide advice on rivers, lakes, oceans, etc. for fishing, including spin and bait fishing for sturgeon, walleyes, steelhead, etc.  I will also need a guide for one day.  Can anyone personally recommend someone?     In that time slot, I’d try the Upper Clackamas for late summer steelhead and/or the Wilson for searun cutthroats, both pretty close to town.  Glenn Young of Beaverton OR is a very good guide for ffing in the Tillamook Bay area, but I can’t find his phone number –perhaps another ROFFer can supply it. –Roger, Portland

You can contact Glenn at (503) 642-4570.  I’ve fished with Glenn a number of times and he is top notch and his rates are very reasonable. Be SURE to try the searun cutthroat–best fly rod fish in the state!! Paul

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That’s a pretty good time of year to try sight fishing to steelhead in the "skinny water" high up on any of the coastal rivers.   Greg in Albany – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – writes: I’m planning a trip to the Portland, Oregon area the first week of October.  Can anybody provide advice on rivers, lakes, oceans, etc. for fishing, including spin and bait fishing for sturgeon, walleyes, steelhead, etc.  I will also need a guide for one day.  Can anyone personally recommend someone?    In that time slot, I’d try the Upper Clackamas for late summer steelhead and/or the Wilson for searun cutthroats, both pretty close to town.  Glenn Young of Beaverton OR is a very good guide for ffing in the Tillamook Bay area, but I can’t find his phone number –perhaps another ROFFer can supply it. –Roger, Portland

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   In that time slot, I’d try the Upper Clackamas for late summer steelhead and/or the Wilson for searun cutthroats, both pretty close to town.  Glenn Young of Beaverton OR is a very good guide for ffing in the Tillamook Bay area, but I can’t find his phone number –perhaps another ROFFer can supply it. –Roger, Portland

Glenn Young’s number: Hackle and Hide Glenn Young  (503)642-4570

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would someone please repost the address for the vote on the fly tying group. thank you — Gerry Hudson Judy Hudson

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would someone please repost the address for the vote on the fly tying group.

Send an email message with one of the following two lines (and only that in the message) as the text of the message: I vote YES to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying I vote NO to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying Please vote if you haven’t done so.  There are only 9 days left to vote. — John Fereira Isis Distributed Systems – Ithaca, NY

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Dear Casters  May 28 95 Hi my name is Thomas Maclean and I own Miramichi Four Season Outfitters Inc , in New Brunswick Canada . I would like to let you know that the bright Atlantic salmon runs are starting again for another year and all is look towards a very good season . This year I purchased a new piece of property on the North West Miramichi River so I now have more to offer you . The bright season opens on June 8 th and I am now booking one week fishing trips for $ 1050.00 Canadian plus taxes provincial 11 % and Fed Gst 7 %  .  This includes all meals , room full bath , transportation , and I can supply equipment and instruction to the new comer , I look forward to hearing from you , bye for now . Respectfully Thomas Miramichi Four Season Outfitters Inc RR # 2 Miramichi City  Box 705 E1V-3L9 New Brunswick Canada Celluar 1-506-622-0089  24 hour a day

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Hi my name is Thomas Maclean and I own Miramichi Four Season Outfitters Inc , . . . season opens on June 8 th and I am now booking one week fishing trips for $ 1050.00 Canadian plus taxes provincial 11 % and Fed Gst 7 %  .  This includes all meals , room full bath , transportation , and I can supply

Does this price include guide services (compulsory in New Brunswick for non-residents)? —  |          Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Rd., Carlsbad         |  |        Springs, Ont., Canada K0A 1K0; tel: (613) 822-0734       |  |  "What I’ve always liked about science is its independence from |  |  authority"–Ontario Science Centre (name on file) 10 July 1981 |

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