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If anyone in this group has fly fished on a trip to South America, New Zealand, or Australia and has any good fishing photographs from that trip, I would be very grateful if you would be willing to share them with me by sending them via email so I can use them on a web site that I am creating. Thank you very much, Bruce

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Bruce, I’ve got tons of pics from various fishing trips to South Amercia……uh….are you gonna have like some kind of ‘adult check’ on the – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If anyone in this group has fly fished on a trip to South America, New Zealand, or Australia and has any good fishing photographs from that trip, I would be very grateful if you would be willing to share them with me by sending them via email so I can use them on a web site that I am creating. Thank you very much, Bruce

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John, I don’t really know what you mean by an "adult check" for my site.  It’s not going to be some kind of porn thing, if that’s what you mean.  It’s just a fishing and hunting web site I’m creating, that will link to various other fishing and hunting web sites around the world. If you have some good fishing photos from South America and you don’t mind me using them, I’d love to see them.  I’ve heard the fishing is great there and the scenery is beautiful. Thank you for taking the time to respond to my post. Bruce Bruce – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Bruce, I’ve got tons of pics from various fishing trips to South Amercia……uh….are you gonna have like some kind of ‘adult check’ on the

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Right now, I feel like a well-meaning liberal in the French Revolution’s Reign of Terror: someone about to get his head chopped off. Well, c’est la vie. Please read the exchange of email between Ms. Birkholm and myself. I think it will suggest the rejoicing over L’affaire Rupe should be tempered with some restraint, not taking a number 10 wt rod to a minnow. We not talking John Birch Society, as far as racism goes, or Amazon, as far as professional websites. FAOL came out of the initiative of two amateurs, like much of what is best of the Internet, and should not be allowed to die ignored any more than Old Rupe’s remarks should have gone unnoticed in the first place. Let’s keep some sense of proportion. We all get into unintentional trouble because we don’t know how to handle it. I have experienced and seen enough racism in my life not to recognize genuine evil which should be stamped out. I hope enough ROFF members will second what I’m saying to perhaps give the Birkholms room to reconsider.

   Dear Laurence,   Thanks for your comments – right now I am seriously considering closing the   website.   It seems unreal and incredible that people calling us racist and inciting murder do   not   realize the seeds of hate they planted with everyone they contacted – and that   includes   all of our sponsors.   The whole issue happened because our editor, my husband Jim (JC) had fallen,   broke   6 ribs and punctured a lung.  He tried to do his job, but the Codine which allowed   him to   sit at the computer at all obviously obstructed his judgement.  We apologized   publicly   on Monday, and the disclaimed was attached to the article as soon as we received   it   from rupe.  The article has been removed, and the hate mail to us personally   continues.   We are now listed on some web list server as "racists and murders" and have   become   a target.  I don’t know if I can continue to produce the volume of work we do   every week   with this happening.  The haters out there, some of whom were/are our readers,   have   broken my heart.  Hard to produce a work of passion when your heart isn’t in it.   If you can think of a fix, let me know.  I don’t think there is one.   Regards,   Deanna   Below is the result of your feedback form.  It was submitted by   () on Sunday, December 5, 1999 at 11:52:10 —–     name: Lawrence Rottersman     address: 2191 NW Glisan St. #206     City: Portland     State: OR     Zip: 97210     Country: usa     tel: 503-220-5081     fax: 503-220-5081       Topic of this contact: Comment on an Article     Comments: Mr. and Mrs. Birkholm: I was one of, maybe, two or three, who   stuck up for you during the Old Rupe issue. So I hope you will at least   think about the following:     As an expublicist, I can tell you what you already know. you’re clumsy at   public relations. But that doesn’t make you racists.     Don’t give into the people who are gloating and displaying your head as some   kind of trophy. You have a really good site, the best  I have seen on fly   fishing, and one of the best, period.     Keep going. Everybody runs into bumps. Again, as a publicist, I can assure   you that today’s news that’s exorcising everybody, will be dimly remembered   tomorrow, and probably not at all the day after.     (If you do change your mind, it might not be a bad idea–I say very   respectfully–to get someone with editorial experience to look over the copy   submitted, for taste as well as clarity. Everybody needs someone to look   over their shoulder for the gaffes we all make.)       —–     REMOTE_HOST: i48-07-12.pdx.du.teleport.com   REMOTE_ADDR: 216.26.3.140   HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/4.7 [en] (WinNT; I)

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Ok I know I am a big bad evil bogeyman.  Whatever. Copy of my last e-mail exchange with Ms.Birkholm. Last post dated Sunday 05.dec. 1999  21.05 PM Deanna, after all this you are still somehow missing the point. This is not a personal thing. You published an inflammatory and racist article, you refused to listen to protests, and the disclaimer and the other stuff were just too little too late.  This was the wrong thing to do.  I do not for one minute believe you or JC are racists, or murderers, or even Rupe for that matter, although the whole mess is mainly his fault, what I think is however irrelevant. You published the damn article, and then supported it.  This was a grave error of judgement, which was pointed out to you almost immediately by a large number of people.  You did not even reply to these people. Under duress from your sponsors, and presumably other pressure from readers and contributors,  you finally retracted, apologised grudgingly and removed the article, agreeing that it was inflammatory, Deanna, nearly  a whole week went by with people you know and like, and who know and like you, a lot of readers, and other contributors complaining daily, and you did nothing sensible to stem the rising tide of anger and outrage caused by the article. I am afraid I just can not understand this. Deanna, I can appreciate you being under considerable stress because of all this, and I really do feel extremely sorry that it happened, but I have even more trouble trying to figure out why you do not realise why.  I doubt if any of those people who protested  wished to damage you personally, I certainly did not. They just wanted to see that racist crap removed or at least an assurance that it was not supported by FAOL.You did not give that assurance, and you continued to support the article, quashing and suppressing the protests on your boards, I presume mainly because of your loyalty to Old Rupe.  While I can identify with this, and even admire  your stubborn loyalty to some degree, it was misplaced here, and a serious mistake. You are a public figure, the well known and respected publisher and editor of a major online fishing magazine, surely you did not imagine that there would be no protest ? Or that people would not take you to task ?  Right thinking people will not tolerate this sort of thing, you are a right thinking person normally, what on earth influenced you to do such a crazy and dangerous thing ?  Did you just have a blind spot or a blackout here ? You threw a lighted match into a barrel of gas, and now you are wondering why the damn thing has exploded ?  Come on,  you are far more intelligent than that. I am well known for my anti-racist views, I imagine you would have known this, there has been more than enough publicity about it.  Surely you did not think I would remain silent in view of such blatant racism ? You know my views and principles on many things, you can not possibly imagine that I could ignore something like this on a site with which I was so closely associated ? I sent several letters asking people to retract their protests and e-mail the sponsors immediately the article was retracted.  As I already said elsewhere though, words are like bullets, once fired they can not be unfired. The only reason for this whole mess was that article. With it gone you have at least a chance. I beg you also to realise that there was nothing personal in any of this from my side, and also that I was certainly not the only person who was outraged by the article.  Most people carried out their protests without any assistance whatsoever. If I were in your present position I would do the following.  I would explain in my next editorial that I was under considerable stress due to my husband having had a serious accident, because of this I relied too heavily on a friend, and the result was that this inflammatory article somehow crept through unedited, not wanting to upset the friend, and out of a sense of loyalty, too little was done to remedy the problem and it just got out of hand. I assume this is more or less what happened anyway. Apologise for your honest mistake and carry on. I am sure you will receive more than enough support if you apologise forthrightly to your readers and sponsors, explaining the circumstances. It grieves me considerably that you have been subjected to such extreme personal distress, I hope that this soon lifts, and that you will put this behind you and carry on. Do not give up because of one stupid mistake. I think people will understand if you tell them the truth, and you will not lose as much as you think now because of it. Sincerely and with great personal regret and understanding for your distress and bitterness. Mike Connor —–Urspr

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I understand that there can be a significant difference in terms of how fast a gps can get a bearing between modals.  I am looking for a gps for fly fishing saltwater.  I will want to be able to mark channels, fishing spots, etc.  Can anyone with experience advise me on what to look for? JK

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I understand that there can be a significant difference in terms of how fast a gps can get a bearing between modals.  I am looking for a gps for fly fishing saltwater.  I will want to be able to mark channels, fishing spots, etc.  Can anyone with experience advise me on what to look for?

Soitenly! Look for a Garmin GPSIII+ /daytripper

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The Garmin GPSIII+ typically acquires satellites and computes it’s initial position in less than a minute.  The downloadable maps include lots of coastal data, markers, buoys, etc.  I use one inland on streams, rivers and lakes.  email me directly if you want more info.  Also you might want to look at the usegroup : sci.geo.satellite-nav.  Lots of experienced folks there as well. Tom — Tom Brown The Signal Group Wake Forest, NC HEATHEN, n. A benighted creature who has the folly to worship something that he can see and feel.                – Ambrose Bierce: The Devil’s Dictionary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I understand that there can be a significant difference in terms of how fast a gps can get a bearing between modals.  I am looking for a gps for fly fishing saltwater.  I will want to be able to mark channels, fishing spots, etc.  Can anyone with experience advise me on what to look for? JK

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I can put off buying the unit until spring although it would be convenient to have it sooner.  Do you see anything changing in terms of new products or enhancements that would warrant waiting? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Garmin GPSIII+ typically acquires satellites and computes it’s initial position in less than a minute.  The downloadable maps include lots of coastal data, markers, buoys, etc.  I use one inland on streams, rivers and lakes.  email me directly if you want more info.  Also you might want to look at the usegroup : sci.geo.satellite-nav.  Lots of experienced folks there as well. Tom — Tom Brown The Signal Group Wake Forest, NC HEATHEN, n. A benighted creature who has the folly to worship something that he can see and feel.               — Ambrose Bierce: The Devil’s Dictionary I understand that there can be a significant difference in terms of how fast a gps can get a bearing between modals.  I am looking for a gps for fly fishing saltwater.  I will want to be able to mark channels, fishing spots, etc.  Can anyone with experience advise me on what to look for? JK

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Hard to say.  My personal expectation is that there will be a version available with more internal flash memory, sometime in the spring.  The GPSIII+ has 1.44 megs in additional to the (good) base map.  Take a look at  www.joe.mehaffey.com .  That’s sort of a "clearing house" for current GPS info. And, start looking at/participating in/ the newsgroup that I mentioned.  Since this is not a germane subject for most flyfishers, email me directly for follow-on info. Tom — Tom Brown The Signal Group Wake Forest, NC HEATHEN, n. A benighted creature who has the folly to worship something that he can see and feel.                – Ambrose Bierce: The Devil’s Dictionary – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I can put off buying the unit until spring although it would be convenient to have it sooner.  Do you see anything changing in terms of new products or enhancements that would warrant waiting? The Garmin GPSIII+ typically acquires satellites and computes it’s initial position in less than a minute.  The downloadable maps include lots of coastal data, markers, buoys, etc.  I use one inland on streams, rivers and lakes.  email me directly if you want more info.  Also you might want to look at the usegroup : sci.geo.satellite-nav.  Lots of experienced folks there as well. Tom I understand that there can be a significant difference in terms of how fast a gps can get a bearing between modals.  I am looking for a gps for fly fishing saltwater.  I will want to be able to mark channels, fishing spots, etc.  Can anyone with experience advise me on what to look for? JK

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Well, just back from my first casting lesson – very informative and useful.  some comments that may be of use to others: EVERY newbie should take a course – even one like mine at $50.00 for three hours, just to learn the basics, and rub shoulders with those who are experienced.  I learned just as much after the class just listening to the shop conversation as I did on the field. I had purchased an 8-wt. Fenwick HMG for stripers and salmon here in the Sacramento Delta.  After the instructor threw a few lines with it, he pronounced it to be a "gun" more like a 10-weight, and should be rigged and used accordingly.  (the rest of the class were using borrowed Sage 6-wts.)  I also learned you need a large capacity reel for anything much over a 7-weight, so if you are buying equipment, keep that in mind.   While I read books and watched videos, it did not compare with one-on-one instruction from someone watching your hand, wrist, arm and cast.  After the field instruction, we went back to the shop for a rigging lesson, learning knots from butt to leader to tippet to fly. And, a great tip – carry a map book with you everywhere – put it in your truck.  when someone tells you about a neat spot to fish, get the map, and get the exact location. Thanks to all, and I will see you on the river (after I get a reel and a sinking line setup…) Bill — William J. Kelly River Communications "We help business communicate" PO Box 691 Rio Vista, CA 94571 707-374-5816 www.thegrid.net/kelly

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, just back from my first casting lesson – very informative and useful.  some comments that may be of use to others: EVERY newbie should take a course – even one like mine at $50.00 for three hours, just to learn the basics, and rub shoulders with those who are experienced.  I learned just as much after the class just listening to the shop conversation as I did on the field. I had purchased an 8-wt. Fenwick HMG for stripers and salmon here in the Sacramento Delta.  After the instructor threw a few lines with it, he pronounced it to be a "gun" more like a 10-weight, and should be rigged and used accordingly.  (the rest of the class were using borrowed Sage 6-wts.)  I also learned you need a large capacity reel for anything much over a 7-weight, so if you are buying equipment, keep that in mind. While I read books and watched videos, it did not compare with one-on-one instruction from someone watching your hand, wrist, arm and cast.  After the field instruction, we went back to the shop for a rigging lesson, learning knots from butt to leader to tippet to fly. And, a great tip – carry a map book with you everywhere – put it in your truck.  when someone tells you about a neat spot to fish, get the map, and get the exact location. Thanks to all, and I will see you on the river (after I get a reel and a sinking line setup…) Bill — William J. Kelly River Communications "We help business communicate" PO Box 691 Rio Vista, CA 94571 707-374-5816 www.thegrid.net/kelly

I’ve been flyfishing for about 8 years now and most (99%) of my casting skill is self taught. Though last year as I was talking to one of my local flyshop owners ( 1 shop, 2 owners), I asked him what they charged for a casting lesson. He grabbed a rod and took me outside and gave me one for free. They’ll give anyone one for free. The last time I talked to him (last Saturday night) he invited me to go fishing with him sometime soon. I jumped on that one as I’ve been looking to fish w/ someone with more experience than me. The trip isn’t planned out yet but you can bet it will be soon, I can’t wait. This guy normally charges money to fish with him. I guess being a regular in a small town shop has it’s privileges. Tight lines, Darin

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Going to be in Denver for a meeting during the second week of July. Want to know if anyone would point me at some closeby fly fishing. Wade fishing if possible but not essential. I don’t expect any secret places, but just a general idea of someplace that I can relax for a couple of days after the meeting…… Any input is appreciated Frank

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frank the orvis shop in boulder can point you to rocky mountain national park. a guide, shawn, took me to the roaring for some greenback cutthrot fishing. walt

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There’s not too much decent fly fishing nearby denver but you might want to try the s. platte river where it goes into chattfield reservoir.  Ask anybody when you get here, everybody knows where chattfield is. Good luck!-Tim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Going to be in Denver for a meeting during the second week of July. Want to know if anyone would point me at some closeby fly fishing. Wade fishing if possible but not essential. I don’t expect any secret places, but just a general idea of someplace that I can relax for a couple of days after the meeting…… Any input is appreciated Frank

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follow I-70 to Silverthorne and fish the Blue river.  Plenty of places to stay and some good fishing. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Going to be in Denver for a meeting during the second week of July. Want to know if anyone would point me at some closeby fly fishing. Wade fishing if possible but not essential. I don’t expect any secret places, but just a general idea of someplace that I can relax for a couple of days after the meeting…… Any input is appreciated Frank Another thought: About 2 1/2 hours north of denver on I-25, just outside of Fort Collins is the Poudre Canyon, follow the Poudre River on Highway 14 up the canyon.  Great fly-fishing abounds everywhere and there is cabins for rent all along the way.-Tim in Denver Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Going to be in Denver for a meeting during the

second week of July. Want to know if anyone would point me at some closeby fly fishing. Wade fishing if possible but not essential. I don’t expect any secret places, but just a

general idea of someplace that I can relax for a couple of days after the meeting…… Any input is appreciated Frank Another thought: About 2 1/2 hours north

of denver on I-25, just outside of Fort Collins is the Poudre Canyon, follow the Poudre River on Highway 14 up the canyon.  Great fly-fishing abounds everywhere and there is cabins for rent all along the way.-Tim in Denver Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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WELL DONE I LAUGHED ALL WAY THROUGH IT

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Have I’ve got a good one for you! I traveled to British Columbia the last week of August to visit family up in Mackenzie. My new brother-in-law (affectionately known as Phlem) is a real die-hard fly fisherman. Me – a die hard bass fisherman (picture a bass boat, 150hp, 10 rods, 400 crankbaits, 500 jigs, 4000 pieces of rubber, and 5 more tackle boxes; all hurtling insanely down the lake at 60+ mph). Anyway, he convinced me that I should try my hand at fly fishing for the first time. So I borrowed my brother

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Low impact fires in wilderness areas are essential to the experience where legal.  Especially if your whipping up some fresh trout burrittos.  heavy emphasis on LOW IMPACT.         Snagging Kokanee is a great way to get good, relatively wild, fresh food.  While snagging Kokanee in Gross Res. quite a few years ago I accidentally snagged a 15" rainbow.  The fish was in bad shape.  I mean it was ripped almost in half.  I was putting a bit of umph into my snagging back then.         Knowing the regs, I "released" the carcass back into the water immediately.  Wouldn’t that fish have been be better spent in the bushes where one of our furry fish eating critters might have benefitted? JE

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       Snagging Kokanee is a great way to get good, relatively wild, fresh food.  While snagging Kokanee in Gross Res. quite a few years ago I accidentally snagged a 15" rainbow.  The fish was in bad shape.  I mean it was ripped almost in half.  I was putting a bit of umph into my snagging back then.        Knowing the regs, I "released" the carcass back into the water immediately.  Wouldn’t that fish have been be better spent in the bushes where one of our furry fish eating critters might have benefitted?

- if you had trolled for kokanee with the same vigour you do for flames the sorry incident wouldn’t have happened; and you wouldn’t have to ask such a stupid question. Ralph H remove "(take_this_out)" for email reply.

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Ralph’s reaction: – if you had trolled for kokanee with the same vigour you do for flames the sorry incident wouldn’t have happened; and you wouldn’t have to ask such a stupid question. Ralph H remove "(take_this_out)" for email reply.         I am stupid.  Very very stupid.  But the question?  It’s just a question.         Now, The Kokanee in Colorado do not reproduce in the wild and die naturally after their third or fourth season.  Harvest them while they’re firm.  There is good reason why the limit on snagged kokes is 40.         Rec.outdoors.fishing.snag.  That’d be a hell fire newsgroup aye?         Sorry Ralph.  I’ll be quiet now. JE

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Knowing the regs, I "released" the carcass back into the water immediately.  Wouldn’t that fish have been be better spent in the bushes where one of our furry fish eating critters might have benefitted?

I am sure that they could retrieve it from the water on their own if the needed. You did the right thing. Regards, J. Webb Atlanta Mac User Group

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*SNIP* Snagging Kokanee is a great way to get good, relatively wild, fresh food. While snagging Kokanee in Gross Res. quite a few years ago I accidentally snagged a 15" rainbow.  The fish was in bad shape.  I mean it was ripped almost in half.  I was putting a bit of umph into my snagging back then.  Knowing the regs, I "released" the carcass back into the water immediately.  Wouldn’t that fish have been be better spent in the bushes where one of our furry fish eating critters might have benefitted?

Hi Jon, Don’t think that trout was wasted.  Even though you didn’t get to eat it, nor did your/our furry friends, the algae and aquatic insects in the water did. It’s energy was recycled into the eco-system from which it came.  It just takes a place at the bottom of the aquatic food chain instead of at the top of it. If there are bears in your area, tossing fish in the bushes could also cause a problem with bears associating people with food.  That is never a good scenario and is a very real problem in CA. I hate to see incidental mortality like you describe, but when you’re snagging fish that’s going to happen.  I don’t like snagging and wouldn’t do it myself unless it was to keep from starving (big difference between subsistance and sport), but if it’s legal in your area, you have a right to do so.  The law requiring you to put back the incidentally caught trout is actually a good one.  If it allowed keeping incidentally snagged trout, pretty soon there would be a regular contingent out there specifically targeting the "incidental" trout.                                      Good Fishing,                                           Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

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I’ve got Chesapeake Light Craft Boats and Pygmy Boats Inc. Does anyone have other kit makers for wood/fiberclass ocean boats? Any experiences good or bad with building a wood boat? Annie Oakley’s Casting & Blasting Page, shooting and fly fishing links: http://members.tripod.com/~AnnieOakley/CastAndBlast.html "Web Poison"–FREE anti-spam software:http://www.e-scrub.com/wpoison/ Phoney Spam-Bot Link: http://www.e-scrub.com/cgi-bin/wpoison/wpoison.cgi

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Nomad Sea Kayaks.  I have been told they make a good kit. http://www.clic.net/~nomad/ Mark

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Nomad Sea Kayaks.  I have been told they make a good kit. http://www.clic.net/~nomad/

I was considering one when I bought my kayak but couldn’t find anyone that knew anything about them. They are also fiberglass only, not wood/fiberglass.   The Guillemott boats (wood) look interesting as well: http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/ I saw a boat in shop in Duck, NC (outer banks) a couple of weeks ago.  It had a fiberglass hull with a wood deck with wood hatch covers.  I have no idea what kind of kit it was built from but the owner of the shop built it and was selling it for $450. Seemed like a real good deal. John Fereira

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Hey, I’m new to fly fishing, and I’ve got a realatively inexpensive outfit that I use for grayling up here in Alaska. Now, it’s my understanding that to make the dry flys float, you spray them with a silicon type sealer and rub it in, right?  Now, I have a jar of Aladdin Magic Lube II silicone lube/sealant in a clear, jelly form. Can I use this? thanks Timothy Murphrey North Pole Alaska

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that I use for grayling up here in Alaska. Now, it’s my understanding that to make the dry flys float, you spray them with a silicon type sealer and rub it in, right?  Now, I have a jar of Aladdin Magic Lube II

1.  No.  Dry flies made sparsely on lightweight hooks with good hackle or dubbing should float by themselves:  and when soaked should dry to float again with one crack of the whip.  (Beware this!  Every crack weakens the nylon tippet.  That’s why you deliberately avoid this in casting.) 2.  Silicone or other waterproofing treatments help flies float in non-standard conditions, e.g. big bushy flies on broken water.  There are now so many chemicals, from ancient wax in naphtha to modern Scotchgard that you can use whatever you like.  But avoid excessive complications, i.e. use no chemicals unless necessary. — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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I want to take just a moment to thank the people who tried to connect for the Wednesday evening chat session.  Unfortunately, FlyFishAmerica’s Web Page Chat option just didn’t work quite the way we wanted it to.   I hurriedly configured an alternate means but unfortunately not everyone had Java enabled browsers.  So in the interim until the folks at FlyFishAmerica can come up with an alternate means of chatting we will connect via IRC Client Software.  In other words you will need mIRC, WsIRC for IBM Clones, or Homer and IRcle for Mac’s. In configuring set your irc server to: 206.230.8.18, on port 6667. We will chat Wednesday Feb 5, at 18:00 MST or 20:00 Eastern Joe

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I want to take just a moment to thank the people who tried to connect for the Wednesday evening chat session.  Unfortunately, FlyFishAmerica’s Web Page Chat option just didn’t work quite the way we wanted it to. I hurriedly configured an alternate means but unfortunately not everyone had Java enabled browsers.  So in the interim until the folks at FlyFishAmerica can come up with an alternate means of chatting we will connect via IRC Client Software.  In other words you will need mIRC, WsIRC for IBM Clones, or Homer and IRcle for Mac’s. In configuring set your irc server to: 206.230.8.18, on port 6667. We will chat Wednesday Feb 5, at 18:00 MST or 20:00 Eastern JoeForgive me for being computer illiterate, but, what is and irc server?  

Where do you get it?  Is it software?  More info. please. John

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connect via IRC Client Software.  In other words you will need mIRC, WsIRC for IBM Clones, or Homer and IRcle for Mac’s. In configuring set your irc server to: 206.230.8.18, on port 6667. We will chat Wednesday Feb 5, at 18:00 MST or 20:00 Eastern JoeForgive me for being computer illiterate, but, what is and irc server?   Where do you get it?  Is it software?  More info. please. John

John if you are using an IBM Clone then go to http://www.tucows.com and in the area for text chat download a program called mIRC.  It is pretty easy to set up.  mIRC will allow you to connect to IRC (Internet Relay Chat)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I want to take just a moment to thank the people who tried to connect for the Wednesday evening chat session.  Unfortunately, FlyFishAmerica’s Web Page Chat option just didn’t work quite the way we wanted it to. connect via IRC Client Software.   In other words you will need mIRC,WsIRC for IBM Clones, or Homer and IRcle for Mac’s. In configuring set your irc server to: 206.230.8.18, on port 6667. We will chat Wednesday Feb 5, at 18:00 MST or 20:00 Eastern JoeForgive me for being computer illiterate, but, what is and ircserver? Where do you get it?  Is it software?  More info. please. John if you are using an IBM Clone then go to http://www.tucows.com and in the area for text chat download a program called mIRC.  It is pretty easy to set up.  mIRC will allow you to connect to IRC (Internet Relay Chat)

Hello all… Sorry for the troubles we had before but they are now behind us. I re-wrote the FlyFishAmerica.com chat area, it has been fixed, it supports a lot more users and is wicked fast. It does not require any downloading or special software and is based on SERVERside Java which does not even require a Java enabled browser. Bob Stewart http://www.flyfishamerica.com/chat/chat.html

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I guess this question is for Al Beatty as much as everyone else.   Are we gonna try to chat Wed. evening again?

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I guess this question is for Al Beatty as much as everyone else. Are we gonna try to chat Wed. evening again?

Hi Joe Why don’t you start the chat and I’ll join in if I can. I have a fly tying class to teach and I’m not sure how long it will take. By the way I sure like your IRC server you showed me yesterday, it was great. Thanks much for sending me the soft ware. Good Tying &…. (the bobbin is on the way). — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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Where is the chat session going to be held from now on? John

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John: It is up in the air right now…..FFAmerica is in the process of working on their chat section ontheir page.  Til then try in your irc client to connect to: Server: 206.230.8.18 Port: 6667 Channel #FlyTyer Wednesday’s at 8:00pm EST – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Where is the chat session going to be held from now on? John

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