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Shanghai– A fishing-village-turned metropolis, Shanghai offers one of the best examples where the east meets the west, the Chinese meets the foreign, and the traditional meets the modern. The city equals many of the world’s metropolises in terms of the pace of life and the speed of change. A Los Angeles Times report in Sept.2001 says that, attracted by Shanghai’s glitz, more than 300,000 Taiwanese, mostly businesspeople, have settled down in the city in recent years. Chongqing– The Red Star Pavilion in the Pipasha Park, the Kansheng Pavilion in the Eling Park, and a place called Yikeshu on the Nanshan Mountain are vintage points for observing the nocturnal scenes of the mountain city of Chongqing. At night the entire city is inundated in an ocean of lights, which form a colorful three-dimensional painting, with waves of the Yangtze and Jialing rivers glistening against the moonlit, star spangled sky. Wuhan– Wuhan is described as the "Homeland of White Clouds and Yellow Crane" The Yangtze River and the Han River join here,dividing the city into three towns:Hankou, Hanyang and Wuchang. Wuhan has many scenic spots and historical sites. Among them are the 2,400 years old Zenghouyi Chime Bells known as one of the world wonders; the 1,700 yearsold Yellow Crane Tower, one of the three famous towers in South China: the East Lake whose natural beauty rivals that of the West Lake in Hangzhou;the TY Tower on Tortois Hill known as the highest mast of Asia; the ancient Guiyuan Temple, and the modern International Amusement Park. Day 1. SHANGHAI to CHONGQING Fly to Chongqing. Greeted by tour guide at the airport. Leisure time, then transfer to Regal China Cruises. Overnight at the Cruises Day 2. CHONGQING to FENGDU (B. L. D.) Departs Chongqing 8:00am. Shore excursion at Fengdu. Overnight at the Cruises Day 3. BADONG to SANDOUPING (B. L. D.) Pass through the magnificent Qutang Gorge and beautiful Wu Gorge. Transfer to a small sampan to cruise the Shennong Stream. Overnight at the Cruises Day 4. SANDOUPING (B. L. D.) Visit the Three Gorges Dam. Sail through Xiling Gorge and pass Gezhouba Dam Ship lock. Overnight at the Cruises Day 5. WUHAN to SHANGHAI (B. L.) Morning continue to sail along the Yangtze River. Arrives Wuhan 12:00N. Visit Yellow Crane Pagoda, proceed to transfer to airport and fly back to Shanghai. [Remark]: 1. Please make reservation for Spring Tour one week at least prior to the departure! 2. Tour cost for Child (below 12): 90% and 75% of the normal cost separately for occupying bed and no bed. 3. Tour cost fluctuates according to the season. TOUR COST (Per Person) $450   Single Supplement $200 DEPARTURES Sorry! There are no available tour packages for you now. Please inform us of your demands! We’ll do our best to arrange the tour package only for you

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REGAL THREE GORGES PACKAGE—-DOWNSTREAM Shanghai– A fishing-village-turned metropolis, Shanghai offers one of the best examples where the east meets the west, the Chinese meets the foreign, and the traditional meets the modern. The city equals many of the world’s metropolises in terms of the pace of life and the speed of change. A Los Angeles Times report in Sept.2001 says that, attracted by Shanghai’s glitz, more than 300,000 Taiwanese, mostly businesspeople, have settled down in the city in recent years. Chongqing– The Red Star Pavilion in the Pipasha Park, the Kansheng Pavilion in the Eling Park, and a place called Yikeshu on the Nanshan Mountain are vintage points for observing the nocturnal scenes of the mountain city of Chongqing. At night the entire city is inundated in an ocean of lights, which form a colorful three-dimensional painting, with waves of the Yangtze and Jialing rivers glistening against the moonlit, star spangled sky. Wuhan– Wuhan is described as the "Homeland of White Clouds and Yellow Crane" The Yangtze River and the Han River join here,dividing the city into three towns:Hankou, Hanyang and Wuchang. Wuhan has many scenic spots and historical sites. Among them are the 2,400 years old Zenghouyi Chime Bells known as one of the world wonders; the 1,700 yearsold Yellow Crane Tower, one of the three famous towers in South China: the East Lake whose natural beauty rivals that of the West Lake in Hangzhou;the TY Tower on Tortois Hill known as the highest mast of Asia; the ancient Guiyuan Temple, and the modern International Amusement Park. Day 1. SHANGHAI to CHONGQING Fly to Chongqing. Greeted by tour guide at the airport. Leisure time, then transfer to Regal China Cruises. Overnight at the Cruises Day 2. CHONGQING to FENGDU (B. L. D.) Departs Chongqing 8:00am. Shore excursion at Fengdu. Overnight at the Cruises Day 3. BADONG to SANDOUPING (B. L. D.) Pass through the magnificent Qutang Gorge and beautiful Wu Gorge. Transfer to a small sampan to cruise the Shennong Stream. Overnight at the Cruises Day 4. SANDOUPING (B. L. D.) Visit the Three Gorges Dam. Sail through Xiling Gorge and pass Gezhouba Dam Ship lock. Overnight at the Cruises Day 5. WUHAN to SHANGHAI (B. L.) Morning continue to sail along the Yangtze River. Arrives Wuhan 12:00N. Visit Yellow Crane Pagoda, proceed to transfer to airport and fly back to Shanghai. [Remark]: 1. Please make reservation for Spring Tour one week at least prior to the departure! 2. Tour cost for Child (below 12): 90% and 75% of the normal cost separately for occupying bed and no bed. 3. Tour cost fluctuates according to the season.

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I’m in RW’s boat. I use an improved clinch for everything. — Tight Lines! Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters, Missoula, Montana www.diamondnoutfitters.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since so many folks started posting what terminal knot they use at the fly, I started keeping track. Some folks had multiple answers for different situation, so I just counted each one. Here’s the results so far. Feel free to post yours and I’ll keep the running tally. Clinch Knot: 4 (Charlie Choc, rw, Bob Weinberger, daytripper) Uni Knot: 3 (Lazarus Cooke, Mike Connor, Vaughan Hurry) Homer Rhode: 2 (Charlie Choc, riverman) Palomar: 1 (Danl) No-Slip Loop Knot: 1 (rw) Improved Clinch: 1 (rw) Turle: 1 (rw) The Improved Clinch is suprising; I’d have thought it was the most common. Possibly not so. Other folks? Lurkers? riverman

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The Improved Clinch is suprising; I’d have thought it was the most common. Possibly not so. Other folks? Lurkers?

I nearly always use the improved clinch, but once in a while I’ll use the uni-knot. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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I’m in RW’s boat. I use an improved clinch for everything. —

Just coming off the road, so late on this…improved clinch for me too, tippet to fly. Frank Church

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I try to tie an improved clinch, but must confess that all too often it turns out to be a "Granny". Big Dale

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Improved Clinch in mono, Uni Loop in braided wire, haywire twist in singlestrand. I’m puzzled by these failures of the improved clinch, I’ve never seen the problem. Chas

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I’m puzzled by these failures of the improved clinch, I’ve never seen the problem.

I think mine were probably due to improper tightening, but the regular clinch is working fine for me now. — Charlie…

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I’m puzzled by these failures of the improved clinch, I’ve never seen the problem. I think mine were probably due to improper tightening, but the regular clinch is working fine for me now.

I’m sure mine were due to improper tightening, and the regular clinch has always worked fine for me for anything smaller than the typical saltwater hook. I use Orvis SS leader material for fresh water. Maybe that’s a factor… /daytripper

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      Since so many folks started posting what terminal knot they use at the fly,   I started keeping track. Some folks had multiple answers for different   situation, so I just counted each one. Here’s the results so far. Feel free   to post yours and I’ll keep the running tally.        clinch from backing to line, line to leader; improved clinch   leader to tippet, tippet to fly. How do you use a clinch knot to join two lines together? Willi

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Since so many folks started posting what terminal knot they use at the fly,  I started keeping track. Some folks had multiple answers for different  situation, so I just counted each one. Here’s the results so far. Feel free  to post yours and I’ll keep the running tally.        clinch from backing to line, line to leader; improved clinch   leader to tippet, tippet to fly. How do you use a clinch knot to join two lines together? Willi

        if i told you, i’d have to kill you.  :) yfitons wayno  (really, you’d have to see it to understand) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Since so many folks started posting what terminal knot they use at the fly, I started keeping track. Some folks had multiple answers for different situation, so I just counted each one. Here’s the results so far. Feel free to post yours and I’ll keep the running tally. Clinch Knot: 4 (Charlie Choc, rw, Bob Weinberger, daytripper) Uni Knot: 3 (Lazarus Cooke, Mike Connor, Vaughan Hurry) Homer Rhode: 2 (Charlie Choc, riverman) Palomar: 1 (Danl) No-Slip Loop Knot: 1 (rw) Improved Clinch: 1 (rw) Turle: 1 (rw) The Improved Clinch is suprising; I’d have thought it was the most common. Possibly not so. Other folks? Lurkers? riverman

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Oops. The Turle was Lazarus. Sorry. rm

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Clinch Knot: 4 (Charlie Choc, rw, Bob Weinberger, daytripper) Uni Knot: 3 (Lazarus Cooke, Mike Connor, Vaughan Hurry) Homer Rhode: 2 (Charlie Choc, riverman) Palomar: 1 (Danl) No-Slip Loop Knot: 1 (rw) Improved Clinch: 1 (rw) Turle: 1 (rw) The Improved Clinch is suprising; I’d have thought it was the most common. Possibly not so. Other folks? Lurkers?

I use the Pitzen knot.  Favorite for the past three years.

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Feel free to post yours and I’ll keep the running tally.

Clinch Knot George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"

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Since so many folks started posting what terminal knot they use at the fly, I started keeping track. Some folks had multiple answers for different situation, so I just counted each one. Here’s the results so far. Feel free to post yours and I’ll keep the running tally.

        clinch from backing to line, line to leader; improved clinch leader to tippet, tippet to fly.

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Mostly improved clinch sometime just a clinch.

    Mostly just a clinch, sometimes improved clinch.

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Since so many folks started posting what terminal knot they use at the fly, I started keeping track. Some folks had multiple answers for different situation, so I just counted each one. Here’s the results so far. Feel free to post yours and I’ll keep the running tally.    clinch from backing to line, line to leader; improved clinch leader to tippet, tippet to fly.

This explains a lot, wayno. /daytripper (y’all are just too clinched up!

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clinch from backing to line, line to leader; improved clinch leader to tippet, tippet to fly.

Tied by your fishing partner, no less. –Steve

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since so many folks started posting what terminal knot they use at the fly, I started keeping track. Some folks had multiple answers for different situation, so I just counted each one. Here’s the results so far. Feel free to post yours and I’ll keep the running tally. Clinch Knot: 4 (Charlie Choc, rw, Bob Weinberger, daytripper) Uni Knot: 3 (Lazarus Cooke, Mike Connor, Vaughan Hurry) Homer Rhode: 2 (Charlie Choc, riverman) Palomar: 1 (Danl) No-Slip Loop Knot: 1 (rw) Improved Clinch: 1 (rw) Turle: 1 (rw) The Improved Clinch is suprising; I’d have thought it was the most common. Possibly not so. Other folks? Lurkers? riverman

improved clinch jeff

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Oops. The Turle was Lazarus. Sorry.

I don’t even know how to tie a Turle knot. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since so many folks started posting what terminal knot they use at the fly, I started keeping track. Some folks had multiple answers for different situation, so I just counted each one. Here’s the results so far. Feel free to post yours and I’ll keep the running tally. Clinch Knot: 4 (Charlie Choc, rw, Bob Weinberger, daytripper) Uni Knot: 3 (Lazarus Cooke, Mike Connor, Vaughan Hurry) Homer Rhode: 2 (Charlie Choc, riverman) Palomar: 1 (Danl) No-Slip Loop Knot: 1 (rw) Improved Clinch: 1 (rw) Turle: 1 (rw) The Improved Clinch is suprising; I’d have thought it was the most common. Possibly not so. Other folks? Lurkers? riverman

Improved Clinch G.C.

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Improved Clinch for me, Occasionally the Turle. Clark

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since so many folks started posting what terminal knot they use at the fly, I started keeping track. Some folks had multiple answers for different situation, so I just counted each one. Here’s the results so far. Feel free to post yours and I’ll keep the running tally. Clinch Knot: 4 (Charlie Choc, rw, Bob Weinberger, daytripper) Uni Knot: 3 (Lazarus Cooke, Mike Connor, Vaughan Hurry) Homer Rhode: 2 (Charlie Choc, riverman) Palomar: 1 (Danl) No-Slip Loop Knot: 1 (rw) Improved Clinch: 1 (rw) Turle: 1 (rw) The Improved Clinch is suprising; I’d have thought it was the most common. Possibly not so. Other folks? Lurkers? riverman

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I like the Trilene knot, especially on bigger hooks. http://www.fish4fun.com/TrileneKnot.htm Kevin

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Clinch mostly. 6 turns on 6x and above. 5 turns on 5x. 4 turns on 4x and below. Loop jam for swinging flys. None other needed. Joel Axelrad **DFD**

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  The Improved Clinch is suprising; I’d have thought it was the most common.   Possibly not so.     Other folks? Lurkers?   Mostly improved clinch sometime just a clinch. Willi

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Mostly improved clinch sometime just a clinch. Willi

Ditto.  Occasionally a Trilene knot too, depending on the size of the eye. I start with a clinch, and if it holds when I test it, I don’t worry. –Stan

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The principal of my elementary school was named Lyman Edward Angel. Had a daughter that was a little older than me that was friends with my sis, but I can’t remember her name. Small world. That’s my wife’s aunt. Drew

Hit me just now. Her name is Dawn. That the one? — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. I’m in Lenoir which is pronounced:  "len-war"–like that fellas name that painted out of focus pictures, Renoir– at least  to us sofisticated folk. Actually grew-up and live in the Raleigh–name after the cigerette brand– area most my life, but don’t ever expect to move back.

Not as long as I live here, anyway.

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charles, i reside in the sunny community of foscoe… –waldo Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are. I’m in Reidsville. Just north of Greensboro. I’m gonna make me a list of who is here, and where each of you are, and thought I’d start out close to home. Thanks. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

– Tight Lines, –Walt Fly Fishing NC & more… http://www.ezflyfish.com http://www.wilsoncreekoutfitters.com

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charles, i reside in the sunny community of foscoe… –waldo

That’s near Morganton, right? — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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charles, i reside in the sunny community of foscoe… –waldo That’s near Morganton, right? —

actually, near boone. the store is in morganton. –walt

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actually, near boone. the store is in morganton. –walt

Gotcha. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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Hit me just now. Her name is Dawn. That the one?

That’s the one. Drew

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……I’m gonna make me a list of who is here, and where each of you are…..

Uh oh. Wolfgang somewhere in stanley.

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greenville, with a plot of ground on england branch in graham county… jeff Noted. —

uh oh. Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

UH OH! Wolfgang

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – greenville, with a plot of ground on england branch in graham county… jeff Noted. — uh oh. Charles Davis   K4SWB <I’m The NRA UH OH! Wolfgang

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Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are.

I’m in Atlanta, but it’s the source of most of the folks fishing the Nantahala. <g — Charlie…

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Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here.

I’m in Lenoir which is pronounced:  "len-war"–like that fellas name that painted out of focus pictures, Renoir– at least  to us sofisticated folk. Actually grew-up and live in the Raleigh–name after the cigerette brand– area most my life, but don’t ever expect to move back. Mark  –aka Opie, Op, asshole, shit-maggot–

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The principal of my elementary school was named Lyman Edward Angel. Had a daughter that was a little older than me that was friends with my sis, but I can’t remember her name.

Small world. That’s my wife’s aunt. Drew

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. I’m in Lenoir which is pronounced:  "len-war"–like that fellas name that painted out of focus pictures, Renoir– at least  to us sofisticated folk.

I’ve never heard it pronounced that way, but then I know few sofisticates. Actually grew-up and live in the Raleigh–name after the cigerette brand– area most my life, but don’t ever expect to move back.

I went there once, and that was enough. Mark  –aka Opie, Op, asshole, shit-maggot–

Sounds like we might be kin. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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greenville, with a plot of ground on england branch in graham county… jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are. I’m in Reidsville. Just north of Greensboro. I’m gonna make me a list of who is here, and where each of you are, and thought I’d start out close to home. Thanks.

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Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are. I’m in Reidsville. Just north of Greensboro.

        sweet baby jesus–rockingham county.  where do you keep your trailer? I’m gonna make me a list of who is here, and where each of you are, and thought I’d start out close to home. Thanks.

        now charles, this here ain’t one of them 1984 big brother deals, is it?         just kiddin, of course.  some of my best friends live in rockingham county. wayno 1519 whilden place greensboro  27408

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says… I’m in Charlotte. Grew up in Asheville with time spent in Watauga County. You familiar with any Angels or Trents up that way? Matter of fact I’ll be up there on the 9th for a wedding. Drew Patterson

The principal of my elementary school was named Lyman Edward Angel. Had a daughter that was a little older than me that was friends with my sis, but I can’t remember her name. Betty Sue Trent ran the record store, and I went to school with some Trents, but that was loooooong ago, and in another galaxy, it seems. Got some neighbors named Patterson. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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greenville, with a plot of ground on england branch in graham county… jeff

Noted. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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says…    sweet baby jesus–rockingham county.  where do you keep your trailer?

I should be so lucky. Still living in the truck, ‘cept when Shirley needs it to get to work at the beauty saloon.    now charles, this here ain’t one of them 1984 big brother deals, is it?

Nah. Just curious. What started me thinking was that it seems that whenever you all have a clave, they make the NC boys get off by themselves.    just kiddin, of course.  some of my best friends live in rockingham county.

I stayed in G’boro for a while, till she tossed me out. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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On the assumption that displaced Tarheels count, I’m just outside St Louis. Born in Murphy (Cherokee county) and grew up in Henderson county. I figger Missouri appreciates the cultural benefit provided by North Carolinians so much that they just won’t let me go. Still go to Murphy several times a year and have to go to Charlotte occasionally. I do have an annual NC non-resident fishing license. Bob Patton

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are. I’m in Reidsville. Just north of Greensboro. I’m gonna make me a list of who is here, and where each of you are, and thought I’d start out close to home. Thanks. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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says… On the assumption that displaced Tarheels count, I’m just outside St Louis. Born in Murphy (Cherokee county) and grew up in Henderson county. I figger Missouri appreciates the cultural benefit provided by North Carolinians so much that they just won’t let me go. Still go to Murphy several times a year and have to go to Charlotte occasionally. I do have an annual NC non-resident fishing license. Bob Patton

Everyone counts. I’ve just started a list so I can put people and places together. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are.

Rah-leigh.

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Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are. Rah-leigh.

Thankee. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are. I’m in Reidsville. Just north of Greensboro. I’m gonna make me a list of who is here, and where each of you are, and thought I’d start out close to home. Thanks. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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I’m in Charlotte. Grew up in Asheville with time spent in Watauga County. You familiar with any Angels or Trents up that way? Matter of fact I’ll be up there on the 9th for a wedding. Drew Patterson – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Seems like there are a lot of NC boys here. If you feel like it, tell me where in NC you are. I’m in Reidsville. Just north of Greensboro. I’m gonna make me a list of who is here, and where each of you are, and thought I’d start out close to home. Thanks. — Charles Davis    K4SWB <I’m The NRA

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If you swing by that way again, look for some of the hot springs (green algae areas, some with rocks built up along the banks) parallel and down stream of the pool.  I have not fished them personally but rafted by them this summer.  The Guide pointed them out and said they were popular year round (especially winter) fishing spots. Scott any great skill-my love for fishing is not matched by my talent for it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Then I noticed my feet were wet and getting cold. Apparently, some idiot decided to wade in the Colorado River at about 7000 feet or higher, without waders. You believe the nerve of that moron?

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Last week we stopped there on our way back from Grand Mesa NF. It’s amazing how few people there were for a Sunday afternoon with good weather, I sat and studied the water for a while, and then discarded all I knew and tied on a black Wooly Worm, and started working my way downstream. Not with any great skill-my love for fishing is not matched by my talent for it. Eventually, I found the trout. They either spooked from my presentation or exhibited some beautiful refusal rises. What the hell, getting a refusal from a 20" trout on the Colorado River is the same as actually catching a fish in some other places. Maybe even better. Besides, I was too lazy to tie on something else, and there weren’t any bugs in the air anyway. Then I noticed my feet were wet and getting cold. Apparently, some idiot decided to wade in the Colorado River at about 7000 feet or higher, without waders. You believe the nerve of that moron? Then I decided to try a new tack. Maybe I should be nymphing with this thing instead of fishing it on the surface. The trout down at the bottom aren’t as smart as the ones taking dries, right? (Probably wrong, actually.) And being too lazy to switch to a shorter leader…actually, the only change I made was a tiny little piece of twist-on. And maybe I got a few hits and was a little late setting up. I was a little distracted. Until one cast…snagged my fly in a tree maybe 20′ off the ground. I start trying to jerk it out, and lost the entire leader instead. Clinch knot good. Mike’s nail knot, apparently bad. Oops. And the flyline splashed into the water, as flylines are wont to do when they’re being waved through the air. And a fish tried to take the end of the line. Maybe I should have tried a yellow fly? — "Armchair warriors often fail, and we’ve been  poisoned by these fairy tales" -Don Henley

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| One of the benefits of living out on the California coast is the ability | to fly across the ocean with a view of a rugged coastline and | breathtaking, pristine wilderness.  I did this today, took off from my | home airport at Little River and flew over the village of Mendocino and | out a few miles offshore to practice some stalls and look at the | continent. | | I was at about 2500 feet when I looked down and saw an interesting boat, | very long.. hey, is it submerged?  That looks like another one next to | it….  and then it dawns on me that they are two whales swimming north | at about 5 knots.  I compared their size with a fishing boat 1/2 mile | away and realized that they were at least 80 feet long and were probably | blue whales, which do migrate past Mendocino point a few times a year. | | I circled them a few times and then left them alone to continue their | journey.  Quite amazing. That is one of the benefits of ‘flying’.  And it doesn’t matter where you live.  Just the scenery is different. I saw a nest in some high power towers.  On closer examination it was an Osprey nest and there were two young Ospreys in it.  I did ‘turns around a point’ several times.  Then my instructor said that we should leave now.  He said that the parent Ospreys are very protective and will attack your plane from below.  The Osprey doesn’t win, but neither do you.  Apparently he had some experience with some.  But it was neat. I wish I could have seen your whales.  Maybe someday … — Rob http://www.dnc.net/users/rlmiller/

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Tops are high enough, though the bottoms are the problem when the marine layer creeps onshore.  Little River is often socked in at 200ft on the west end and clear as a bell on the east end.  My house 10 miles north is that way all the time too during the summer.  Today, for example, it was very clear at 11am when I went up, though there was no horizon due to the marine layer about 15 miles out.  By afternoon it was onshore—it was foggy in town but clear at my place, probably similar situation at the airport. Weather is a fascinating lesson in geography. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tops generally high enough to sock in Little River? seriously, seems to be around until 10am or so, then back mid-afternoon.  We have a high offshore today and relatively warm weather which helps drive things out early, though I hear the subsequent trough is building and we will have more fog and wetness over the weekend.  So much for working in the garden (or going flying)

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Thanks.  I like to listen to "local knowledge" when it’s available. Don – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tops are high enough, though the bottoms are the problem when the marine layer creeps onshore.  Little River is often socked in at 200ft on the west end and clear as a bell on the east end.  My house 10 miles north is that way all the time too during the summer.  Today, for example, it was very clear at 11am when I went up, though there was no horizon due to the marine layer about 15 miles out.  By afternoon it was onshore—it was foggy in town but clear at my place, probably similar situation at the airport. Weather is a fascinating lesson in geography. Tops generally high enough to sock in Little River? seriously, seems to be around until 10am or so, then back mid-afternoon.  We have a high offshore today and relatively warm weather which helps drive things out early, though I hear the subsequent trough is building and we will have more fog and wetness over the weekend.  So much for working in the garden (or going flying)

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Tops generally high enough to sock in Little River? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – schedule?  not much of a schedule unless you count "always present" seriously, seems to be around until 10am or so, then back mid-afternoon.  We have a high offshore today and relatively warm weather which helps drive things out early, though I hear the subsequent trough is building and we will have more fog and wetness over the weekend.  So much for working in the garden (or going flying) Cool.  What kind of schedule is the costal stratus on this time of year? Don One of the benefits of living out on the California coast is the ability to fly across the ocean with a view of a rugged coastline and breathtaking, pristine wilderness.  I did this today, took off from my home airport at Little River and flew over the village of Mendocino and out a few miles offshore to practice some stalls and look at the continent. I was at about 2500 feet when I looked down and saw an interesting boat, very long.. hey, is it submerged?  That looks like another one next to it….  and then it dawns on me that they are two whales swimming north at about 5 knots.  I compared their size with a fishing boat 1/2 mile away and realized that they were at least 80 feet long and were probably blue whales, which do migrate past Mendocino point a few times a year. I circled them a few times and then left them alone to continue their journey.  Quite amazing.

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schedule?  not much of a schedule unless you count "always present" seriously, seems to be around until 10am or so, then back mid-afternoon.  We have a high offshore today and relatively warm weather which helps drive things out early, though I hear the subsequent trough is building and we will have more fog and wetness over the weekend.  So much for working in the garden (or going flying) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cool.  What kind of schedule is the costal stratus on this time of year? Don One of the benefits of living out on the California coast is the ability to fly across the ocean with a view of a rugged coastline and breathtaking, pristine wilderness.  I did this today, took off from my home airport at Little River and flew over the village of Mendocino and out a few miles offshore to practice some stalls and look at the continent. I was at about 2500 feet when I looked down and saw an interesting boat, very long.. hey, is it submerged?  That looks like another one next to it….  and then it dawns on me that they are two whales swimming north at about 5 knots.  I compared their size with a fishing boat 1/2 mile away and realized that they were at least 80 feet long and were probably blue whales, which do migrate past Mendocino point a few times a year. I circled them a few times and then left them alone to continue their journey.  Quite amazing.

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Cool.  What kind of schedule is the costal stratus on this time of year? Don – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – One of the benefits of living out on the California coast is the ability to fly across the ocean with a view of a rugged coastline and breathtaking, pristine wilderness.  I did this today, took off from my home airport at Little River and flew over the village of Mendocino and out a few miles offshore to practice some stalls and look at the continent. I was at about 2500 feet when I looked down and saw an interesting boat, very long.. hey, is it submerged?  That looks like another one next to it….  and then it dawns on me that they are two whales swimming north at about 5 knots.  I compared their size with a fishing boat 1/2 mile away and realized that they were at least 80 feet long and were probably blue whales, which do migrate past Mendocino point a few times a year. I circled them a few times and then left them alone to continue their journey.  Quite amazing.

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One of the benefits of living out on the California coast is the ability to fly across the ocean with a view of a rugged coastline and breathtaking, pristine wilderness.  I did this today, took off from my home airport at Little River and flew over the village of Mendocino and out a few miles offshore to practice some stalls and look at the continent. I was at about 2500 feet when I looked down and saw an interesting boat, very long.. hey, is it submerged?  That looks like another one next to it….  and then it dawns on me that they are two whales swimming north at about 5 knots.  I compared their size with a fishing boat 1/2 mile away and realized that they were at least 80 feet long and were probably blue whales, which do migrate past Mendocino point a few times a year. I circled them a few times and then left them alone to continue their journey.  Quite amazing.

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Looking for fragments of arctic fox for fly tying – anyone know where to find it? Jeff Slater

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Looking for fragments of arctic fox for fly tying – anyone know where to find it?

Furriers usually give scraps away free if asked right. Taxidermists usually have scraps too, but are more used to selling them to fly tyers. — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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Looking for fragments of arctic fox for fly tying – anyone know where to find it?

Check with Blue Ribbon Flies in West Yellowstone, Montana.  Phone 406-646-9365. They are probably as likely as anyone I can think to have some.  If you’re lucky they’ll have the tails.                                         Hope this helps,                                                Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools Mt. Shasta Fly Fishing Schools http://www.thegrid.net/flyfish

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Heading up to Mammoth in a couple of days (my wife has to go up there for a meeting, poor me getting dragged along ). I’m going to fish Hot Creek for the first time, but I’ve got lots of additional time to fill. I’m kinda looking for something other than the usual Mammoth Lakes, and I’m looking for any suggestions on a couple of lakes. Specifically, I’m thinking of taking my float tube in to McLeod Lake, which I’ve only read about. Any one fished it recently?  I’ve also read about Sotcher Lake down in the Devils Postpile area, which I’ve heard fishes pretty good in the morning. There’s another lake off the road down there, but I can’t remember the name. Lastly, I’ve got to make at least one trip up to Lee Vining, and thought about fishing Lundy. Has anyone ever floated it. Any pre-trip suggestions would be helpful. I’ll post a report when I get back. Also, there was a guy named Mark Heskett who wrote a little book on fishing the Mammoth area. I corresponded with him a few times on the Internet a couple of years ago, but haven’t seen him turning up here. Does anyone know if he’s still around. Roger

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<<*SNIP*  I’ve also read about Sotcher Lake down in the Devils Postpile area, which I’ve heard fishes pretty good in the morning. There’s another lake off the road down there, but I can’t remember the name.  *SNIP* Hi Roger, If you are planning on driving down by Devil’s Postpile, be sure to drive in before 7 am.  They close the road and run a shuttle after that and you don’t want to try to take your tube on the shuttle.  By the way the shuttle only goes to Devil’s Postpile and no farther. Give The Trout Fly in Mammoth lakes a call at (619) 934-2517 and they can give you somemore info.                                      Good Fishing,                                                Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

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0] : Heading up to Mammoth in a couple of days (my wife has to go up there : for a meeting, poor me getting dragged along ). : I’m going to fish Hot Creek for the first time, but I’ve got lots of : additional time to fill. I’m kinda looking for something other than the : usual Mammoth Lakes, and I’m looking for any suggestions on a couple of : lakes. : Specifically, I’m thinking of taking my float tube in to McLeod Lake, : which I’ve only read about. Any one fished it recently?  I’ve also read : about Sotcher Lake down in the Devils Postpile area, which I’ve heard : fishes pretty good in the morning. There’s another lake off the road : down there, but I can’t remember the name. Lastly, I’ve got to make at : least one trip up to Lee Vining, and thought about fishing Lundy. Has : anyone ever floated it. : Any pre-trip suggestions would be helpful. I’ll post a report when I get : back. : Also, there was a guy named Mark Heskett who wrote a little book on : fishing the Mammoth area. I corresponded with him a few times on the : Internet a couple of years ago, but haven’t seen him turning up here. : Does anyone know if he’s still around. : Roger If you are going to fish Hot Creek, I would also suggest taking a look at the wild trout section of the upper Owens–up from Benton Crossing. It’s only a couple of miles from Hot Creek and there’s lots more of it and lots less angler pressure. It’s just this year got new fencing to keep the cows out– people access no problem–lots of walk-through gates. Good luck! Mike — Michael McGuire                     Hewlett Packard Laboratories Phone: (415)-857-5491               Palo Alto, CA 94303-0971

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Heading up to Mammoth in a couple of days (my wife has to go up there for a meeting, poor me getting dragged along ). Specifically, I’m thinking of taking my float tube in to McLeod Lake, which I’ve only read about. Any one fished it recently?  I’ve also read about Sotcher Lake down in the Devils Postpile area, which I’ve heard fishes pretty good in the morning. There’s another lake off the road down there, but I can’t remember the name. Lastly, I’ve got to make at least one trip up to Lee Vining, and thought about fishing Lundy. Has anyone ever floated it. Any pre-trip suggestions would be helpful. I’ll post a report when I get back. Roger

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Of all the streams I fish in the great upper peninsula of michigan, the trout only seem to bite spinners and worms. I truly enjoy flyfishing rivers over spincasting, and was wondering if anyone fishes the u.p. with flyrods that can give me some tips. Thanks- Muskie

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I haven’t fished the U.P. (I have a buddy from near Houghton who threatens to take me, but that is another story).  Anyway, I can sympathize.  I grew up fishing in N.E. Minnesota (on the other side of Lake Superior) and found the same problems.  Most of the streams were small and choked with cedars, spuce, or alders.  The only spots open enough to fly fish seemed devoid of cover, and of course were devoid of fish. But keep searching..you will soon find that spot with both cover (shade) and casting room.  Try larger streams and look for boulders and plunge pools below rapids and falls.  Searching is all the fun.  Who other that a trout fisherman would spend hours slugging through brush, mud, and mosquitoes for hours to catch a 7-inch trophy. Tight Lines – Zeke

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Dear Muskie: When you refer to the U.P., you are talking about God’s country, which was also shared by the great Robert Traver.  I have spent a great deal of my youth and later years fishing the streams in the Central U.P..  The fly fishing is fine, and some of the best to be found anywhere. Streamers work especially well.  Try a Royal Coachmen, Muddler, or Black Ghost for good results.  The tried and true G.R. Hares Ear Nymph is a favorite, as well as a good selection of Bead Heads, and Zud Bugs.  No one should also venture out without a supply of Adams dry flies ranging in sizes from #12 to #20, also for a pattern to explore with, try a Betty (also called a Coachmen Trude).  The March Brown hatch can be spectacular, and takes place around the end of June through the first part of July, so carry some March Brown patterns. Just returned from two weeks in the U.P., and while the weather was not always spectacular, the fishing was good. Good Luck, Jim J.

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 I may be relocating to the Richmond, Virginia area soon and would appreciate any information ya’ll may have regarding FF Clubs / Organizations there.    This is an exciting possibility for me as I’ve never been east of my Texas Gulf coastline. I trust and hope the ethics & traditions of brother anglers are alive and well in the fine Eastern areas of the United States! Once again, any information is highly appreciated. Thanks Ya’ll. TEM

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The Virginia Capital Chapter of Trout Unlimited meets on the 4th tuesday of the month at 7:30 pm at the Central Fidelity Bank north of McRea Rd in Bon Air, VA.  It’s just off Huguenot Rd across from Stony Pt. Plaza.

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TEM If you like smallmouth fishing the James River is one of the best in the South and I’m sure you will find the ladies and gentlemen the same as where you came from. Welcome to the Southeast. Richard Warren Raleigh, NC

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Welcome to Virginia.  We are a Flyfishing Guide and Instruction Service company named….. Flyfishing Virginia, L.L.C.  We post a weekly (well almost) column entitled, "This Week Flyfishing Virginia" where we post the results of all of our guides for the past week.  What’s hot and what’s not.  Stay tuned.  Again, Welcome to a state where you can flyfish 12 months of the years.  Bob Crawshaw and Ron Bennett,  Flyfishing Virginia L.L.C.  804-467-6668

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Last year was my first ordering from the Bass Pond, and I have sung their praises in this forum along with several of you out there.  I’m wondering if we have to order a new catalog each year or do they mail out new catalogs to people on their mailing list?  When is the new catalog due to be out? Paul DiConza NY Capital District Angler

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Paul, I received my catolog last Tuesday. Great cover! Talked to Doug earlier in the week and he said that they were all mailed of and now is up to the PO. From the Float Tube of Elmer Meiler Somewhere on the Pond of OZ

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Where do you order Bass Pond? Thanks. Dan Harris

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