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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I will sponsor "Flies of the World" for the first fly tying information swap.  What I propose to offer is one fly tied of the following sets. 1.  your single most successful dry fly 2.  caddis, caddis, caddis all three stages. 3.  anything may fly from one nymph, dun, spinner, spent. 4.  your favorite terrestrial, INCLUDING dragon fly, crane, etc. 5.  your favorite stone fly dry and nymph 6.  parachute anything 7.  emergers, emergers, emergers diptera, caddis, etc. 8.  Fresh water Streamer.  Salt Water Streamer. 9.  Steelhead Fly 10. Salmon Fly Each fly will be photographed and if the tier can provide tying photos, all the better.  Each fly should have a photo of tier at vise.  Each fly should have a narration of how to tie it and also the why of it and how and when it is used.  The story is vital.  Latin terms are welcome and fly tying book references of pattern used also encouraged.  "I tied this fly up using Ernie Schwiebert’s book on "Nymphs" found on page # xxx. (for example) Those who are interested and who offer up their talents, will be entered into our companies "Flies of the World Wide Web Site" which is viewed all over the world.  I hope to make this a major factor in the world of fly fishing information over the Internet. This is an "Intellectual Swap" each tier becomes part of a major data base of fly tying information in an electronic book where I hope to keep you preserved for all time. The tying format outline will constructed so everyone uses the same quality steps from "Hook Size & Make" all the way through to finished product.  Each tier will have a full page display and lay out all their own for EACH FLY offered. We will reserve the right to edit and help the lay outs as much as possible so each tier is presented in the best light and as interesting as possible. The comments of our Flies of the World gets each month is remarkable and the interest on going.  We just need more of the same from serious fly tiers and fishermen just like you. Materials of all kinds are found in unusual places and sometimes it is helpful if a rare material’s source is divulged.  Synthetics are allowed for one major reason.  To make the first fly out of Polar Bear requires the death of a magnificent animal.  Yet, there are sources where old taxidermy mounts are salvaged and someone has a large piece they are willing to share, or better yet a synthetic that is used which safeguards Polar Bears from further hunting just to tie that first fly. It simply makes sense that synthetics be allowed and especially when some of them make it difficult to tell the difference between them and the real thing.  We are here to learn and we are here to contribute to a finer world of fly fishing through helping each other and wildlife in general as best we can. Anyhow, this will be Rofft’s place in the sun where dreams, reality, and the final product are shown and preserved for all mankind.  We want to know what you look like and we want your stories and thoughts.  It makes no difference if you can spell or not.  Its your enthusiasm that counts. The above layout of flies can be submitted one fly at a time but each tier should have a chance to include what is important at their pace for each fly takes thought and it is, as I’ve always said, "A contemplative man’s sport." I expect to reach "A Thousand & One" fly patterns in time.  I want YOU to be part of what fly fishing is about to you and hopefully that you will share a little of it with others.  I  hope some of you like this idea, can use it to promote quality concepts and who are willing to donate a little of your time to help others . . . all over the world. This generation of Roffian Tiers needs to be preserved for the future. I want you to be part of it.  I bar no man of sport. — George Gehrke Mr. Gink  

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    My brother is visually impaired with some sight and motor difficulties and he loves to fish.  Is there any way for him to effectively fly fish or use a fly to fish lakes and streams using flys.  I am new to fly fishing and would like to introduce him to the sport.

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   He could definitely fish from a float tube with a companion nearby.  All you have to do is put on a wooly bugger or nymph on a line of suitable sink rate, and kick around slowly.  Jonny even fished with someone who did it while sleeping. You’ll need to help him when he gets a fish in close, though he could learn to net them himself but in releasing them unharmed he could use your help. Have fun, Mark Vinsel – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –    My brother is visually impaired with some sight and motor difficulties and he loves to fish.  Is there any way for him to effectively fly fish or use a fly to fish lakes and streams using flys.  I am new to fly fishing and would like to introduce him to the sport.

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I don’t care if I am crossing a stream or paddling across a lake, I have my line in the water.   I have caught respectable fish while "trolling" from behind my kayak, streamers and boogers and such….fish too! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   He could definitely fish from a float tube with a companion nearby.  All you have to do is put on a wooly bugger or nymph on a line of suitable sink rate, and kick around slowly.  Jonny even fished with someone who did it while sleeping. You’ll need to help him when he gets a fish in close, though he could learn to net them himself but in releasing them unharmed he could use your help. Have fun, Mark Vinsel    My brother is visually impaired with some sight and motor difficulties and he loves to fish.  Is there any way for him to effectively fly fish or use a fly to fish lakes and streams using flys.  I am new to fly fishing and would like to introduce him to the sport.

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I don’t care if I am crossing a stream or paddling across a lake, I have my line in the water.   I have caught respectable fish while "trolling" from behind my kayak, streamers and boogers and such….fish too!

Kinda says something about all our careful casting techniques and presentations and such, doesn’t it?  :-) — Bob Jarvis Mail address hacked to foil spammers!

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I’ve rented a cabin on the back of Hiwassee river near Murphy for the first week in April, and would like to know what kind of flies are recommended for that area that time of year.  I’ve only fly fished saltwater in Florida, so I’m really looking forward to something new and different.   Thanks, Terry

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I’ve rented a cabin on the back of Hiwassee river near Murphy for the first week in April, and would like to know what kind of flies are recommended for that area that time of year.

        royal wulff, adams wulff (called a "thunderhead" in n.c.) and some dark bodied elk hair caddis.  all in size 12-16.  hare’s ear and squirrell tail nymphs, size 12.  that’s it.  now pretend you’re an otter hunting fish.  upstream, quietly and slowly.         a. wayne harrison

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I’ve rented a cabin on the back of Hiwassee river near Murphy for the first week in April, and would like to know what kind of flies are recommended for that area that time of year.  I’ve only fly fished saltwater in Florida, so I’m really looking forward to something new and different.   Thanks, Terry

– Hi Terry, Good luck with your adventure. For early spring dries you will need some: fly…                size Elk Hair Caddises    12-16 Blue-Wing Olives     16-18 Adams parachutes     12-16 March Brown          12-14 for nymphs: tellicos             12-14 bead head hares ear  12-14 pheasent tail        12-14 and for wets working downstream: wooly bugger         6-10 soft-hackled wets    12-14               you can use the soft-hackled wets as a dropper behind the other flies if you choose to. Also, the smaller the tippet you use the more success you will have with the dry flies. The fish should be actively feeding but they will scatter and hide at the smallest disturbance, including a leader splash. Be smooth and gentle with your presentation and you should do just fine. –Walt The Blue Ridge Book Gallery | We are located 8 miles south of Boone on Rt. 1 Box 975-23            | Hiway 105 in Foscoe in the heart of the Banner Elk, NC 28604        | beautiful Blue Ridge Mountains. Please (704) 963-5001              | visit us when you’re in the area.                             |  Thanks….Marie & Walter Winter http://www.mercury.net/~wgwinter/         also on Interloc…

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve rented a cabin on the back of Hiwassee river near Murphy for the first week in April, and would like to know what kind of flies are recommended for that area that time of year.  I’ve only fly fished saltwater in Florida, so I’m really looking forward to something new and different. Thanks, Terry — Hi Terry, Good luck with your adventure. For early spring dries you will need some: fly…                size Elk Hair Caddises    12-16 Blue-Wing Olives     16-18 Adams parachutes     12-16 March Brown          12-14 for nymphs: tellicos             12-14 bead head hares ear  12-14 pheasent tail        12-14 and for wets working downstream: wooly bugger         6-10 soft-hackled wets    12-14 you can use the soft-hackled wets as a dropper behind the other flies if you choose to. Also, the smaller the tippet you use the more success you will have with the dry flies. The fish should be actively feeding but they will scatter and hide at the smallest disturbance, including a leader splash. Be smooth and gentle with your presentation and you should do just fine. –Walt The Blue Ridge Book Gallery | We are located 8 miles south of Boone on Rt. 1 Box 975-23            | Hiway 105 in Foscoe in the heart of the Banner Elk, NC 28604        | beautiful Blue Ridge Mountains. Please (704) 963-5001              | visit us when you’re in the area.                             |  Thanks….Marie & Walter Winter http://www.mercury.net/~wgwinter/         also on Interloc…

    Hi Walter        I saw by one of the other sites that the non-resident NC license went to $30.00, TRUE ?                                                        John Popp                                                      in Sanford Fl.

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   Hi Walter       I saw by one of the other sites that the non-resident NC license went to $30.00, TRUE ?                                                       John Popp                                                     in Sanford Fl.

Hi John, I’m not sure what a day/3 day/or week license costs but a non-resident year license costs $40.00. –Walt — The Blue Ridge Book Gallery | We are located 8 miles south of Boone on Rt. 1 Box 975-23            | Hiway 105 in Foscoe in the heart of the Banner Elk, NC 28604        | beautiful Blue Ridge Mountains. Please (704) 963-5001              | visit us when you’re in the area.                             |  Thanks….Marie & Walter Winter http://www.mercury.net/~wgwinter/         also on Interloc…

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I’m investigating a position in Baker, Oregon and have been told by the recruiter that the flyfishing is "the best in the country".  I don’t know if anyone in Last Chance, ID or Steamboat, OR or Flaming Gorge, UT would disagree but I’d love to hear from someone who has fished in the creeks, rivers and lakes around Baker.  You can e-mail me at Ken

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Ken, All fishing in Oregon is highly over rated.  The population has grown so fast that most streams and lakes are depleted except for the odd truckload of planters dumped  in every now and then to satisfy the bloodlust of recently arrived new Oregonians.  Recruiters are frequently reduced to lying in order to seduce those in search of a lifestiyle and environment that disappeared long ago.  The real action is in Colorado where guys like Moe Skeeter and Walleye Miller have taken steps to insure that fish are plentiful and anglers are few. I’m investigating a position in Baker, Oregon and have been told by the recruiter that the flyfishing is "the best in the country".  I don’t know if anyone in Last Chance, ID or Steamboat, OR or Flaming Gorge, UT would disagree but I’d love to hear from someone who has fished in the creeks, rivers and lakes around Baker.  You can e-mail me at Ken

– Mike in PDX "When the trout are lost, smash the state."                          Tomn McGuane

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I will be staying on the beach at Ambergris Cay in mid October.  I plan on doing some guided fishing (tarpon, bonefish, etc…), but what about just flingin’ flies from the beach (fairly secluded)?  Are there snappers, etc available to throw small clousers to, or some other type of "saltwater panfish" to occupy an early morning of walking the beach?  Any suggestions on flies to bring and species available would be most appreciated. Paul DiConza Albany, NY

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: I will be staying on the beach at Ambergris Cay in mid October.  I plan on : doing some guided fishing (tarpon, bonefish, etc…), but what about just : flingin’ flies from the beach (fairly secluded)?  Are there snappers, etc : available to throw small clousers to, or some other type of "saltwater : panfish" to occupy an early morning of walking the beach?  Any suggestions : on flies to bring and species available would be most appreciated. Great question.  Please answer in the group.  Thanks. — Rick (who would like to do this himself, very soon.) T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    |  These University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    |  opinions Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. |  are mine.

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I will be staying on the beach at Ambergris Cay in mid October.  I plan on doing some guided fishing (tarpon, bonefish, etc…), but what about just flingin’ flies from the beach (fairly secluded)?  Are there snappers, etc available to throw small clousers to, or some other type of "saltwater panfish" to occupy an early morning of walking the beach?  Any suggestions on flies to bring and species available would be most appreciated. Paul DiConza Albany, NY

I was down in Belize a month ago and had a great time.  On the first morning I was preparing my rods and had a school of bonefish pass within fifty feet of the beach and had one on with the second cast.  There are plenty of "SW panfish" everywhere but you will have to use smaller flies.  I had my best luck with size 8 and 10 crazy charlies in Olive, olive brown,pink puffs (pink head white wings), tan and some orange.  You might have a hard time finding size 10 SW hooks and the only source I found was Partridge.  We ended up using 6 wt. rods most of the time stepping up to 8 wt. for permit and both with 15-18′ leaders.  Found that 3 feet of flourocarbon tippet of the end of a 15′ leader worked great.  We had many fish over 5Lbs. with the biggest landed fish of the week at 7lbs.  Saw plenty of bonefish over ten and a few golden bones.  Planning on going down again the end of March 97. EYES ON CHARLIES MINI, X-SMALL AND SMALL Good fishing,                      Marcos Vergara                      Fly & Field, Inc.

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Anywhere there is surf and coral you can catch small snappers, grouper and other stuff.  A wire leader is advisable.  The groupers will go to holes and have to be pulle out/

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I’ am trying to decide whether to buy the Orvis 4 wgt.  Brook Trout combo($295) or the L.L.  Bean 4 wgt.  Guide combo($275).  The only difference seems to be thatOrvis has a more expensive rod and L.L.  Bean has a more expensive reel and the$20 diff, which I’am not concerned with.  help me.  thanks.

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: I’ am trying to decide whether to buy the Orvis 4 wgt.  Brook Trout : combo($295) or the L.L.  Bean 4 wgt.  Guide combo($275).  The only : difference seems to be thatOrvis has a more expensive rod and L.L.  Bean : has a more expensive reel and the$20 diff, which I’am not concerned : with.  help me.  thanks. I would check out the GLoomis GL3..I’ve heard great things bout them Frankie

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: I’ am trying to decide whether to buy the Orvis 4 wgt.  Brook Trout : combo($295) or the L.L.  Bean 4 wgt.  Guide combo($275).  The only : difference seems to be thatOrvis has a more expensive rod and L.L.  Bean : has a more expensive reel and the$20 diff, which I’am not concerned : with.  help me.  thanks. I would check out the GLoomis GL3..I’ve heard great things bout them Frankie

…And more…*($^#&#Y  For a little more you could pick up an Orvis PM….the 8′4" is pretty nice. just another option steve d.

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: I’ am trying to decide whether to buy the Orvis 4 wgt.  Brook Trout : combo($295) or the L.L.  Bean 4 wgt.  Guide combo($275).  The only : difference seems to be thatOrvis has a more expensive rod and L.L.  Bean : has a more expensive reel and the$20 diff, which I’am not concerned : with.  help me.  thanks.

The Bean reels are heavier than the Orvis reels.  This may be good or it may be bad.  It depends on how you like to balance your outfit.  My Henry’s Fork balances nicely with a Battenkill 5/6 Disc; I do not want the extra weight of a Bean Guide reel. I am picking nits.  I am sure that you would be happy with either (or both!). — Keep your stick on the ice.

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: I’ am trying to decide whether to buy the Orvis 4 wgt.  Brook Trout : combo($295) or the L.L.  Bean 4 wgt.  Guide combo($275).  The only : difference seems to be thatOrvis has a more expensive rod and L.L.  Bean : has a more expensive reel and the$20 diff, which I’am not concerned : with.  help me.  thanks. The Bean reels are heavier than the Orvis reels.  This may be good or it may be bad.  It depends on how you like to balance your outfit.  My Henry’s Fork balances nicely with a Battenkill 5/6 Disc; I do not want the extra weight of a Bean Guide reel. I am picking nits.  I am sure that you would be happy with either (or both!).

I know this is going to start a war but…. From what I have seen LL Bean is a great clothing store but they don’t seem to produce (or re-package with their name) equipment of the quality you can get from Orvis.  I would go with the Orvis every time. Well time to climb into the bomb shelter ! Tom

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : I’ am trying to decide whether to buy the Orvis 4 wgt.  Brook Trout : combo($295) or the L.L.  Bean 4 wgt.  Guide combo($275).  The only : difference seems to be thatOrvis has a more expensive rod and L.L.  Bean : has a more expensive reel and the$20 diff, which I’am not concerned : with.  help me.  thanks. The Bean reels are heavier than the Orvis reels.  This may be good or it may be bad.  It depends on how you like to balance your outfit.  My Henry’s Fork balances nicely with a Battenkill 5/6 Disc; I do not want the extra weight of a Bean Guide reel. I am picking nits.  I am sure that you would be happy with either (or both!). I know this is going to start a war but…. From what I have seen LL Bean is a great clothing store but they don’t seem to produce (or re-package with their name) equipment of the quality you can get from Orvis.  I would go with the Orvis every time. Well time to climb into the bomb shelter ! Tom

INCOMMMMMINNNNNNGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!

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        I personally wouldn’t choose a combo from either Orvis of L.L.Bean. I think you could do yourself a favor by putting your own set-up together. G.Loomis, Thomas & Thomas, and Powell make rods in your price range that offer good actions and strong warranties. As far as reels go, I would suggest a Ross Cimmeron or a Orvis Battenkill in your price range. These reels are probably more than you need for a 4 weight rod.         I hope my butting in was not taking wrong. The only thing I wanted to do is help. If I can be of further assistance my e-mail address

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I know this is going to start a war but…. From what I have seen LL Bean is a great clothing store but they don’t seem to produce (or re-package with their name) equipment of the quality you can get from Orvis.  I would go with the Orvis every time.

No war, Tom, just a difference of opinion. I think the quality of L.L. Bean fly fishing gear is every bit as good as Orvis and offers better value as well. The Angler series is a wonderful choice for someone getting into fly fishing who wants to buy stuff they will fish with for a lifetime as opposed to so much of the entry-level stuff that is just not so well made. (I suppose the Orvis Clearwater series is probably very nice, too, but I haven’t seen that stuff yet.) In addition, L.L. Bean is a model of customer service and offers their unconditional lifetime guarantee on everything they sell. I go with L.L. Bean every time I can. (And no, I don’t work for Bean’s, hold their stock, or anything else like that.) – Scott — Sustaining and Specials Engineering     voice: 508 952-4792 Xyplex, Inc.                            fax: 508 952-4887 295 Foster St.                          (Opinions, comments, etc. are mine, Littleton, MA 01460                                     not Xyplex’s…)

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Actually, the LLBean Guide & LL series rods are built on Loomis blanks. (Call ‘em up; they’ll tell you who makes any of the fishing gear for them.) The Bean guarantee is basically "whatever, forever". Friends have even sent back leaky old waders for repair/replacement/credit. Orvis rods are fine if you like the generally slower actions, and don’t mind the ugly blanks .

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I know this is going to start a war but…. From what I have seen LL Bean is a great clothing store but they don’t seem to produce (or re-package with their name) equipment of the quality you can get from Orvis.  I would go with the Orvis every time.

Misattribution.  I am a big LL Bean fan, and if the Canadian dollar were spunkier I would buy much more from them. Joke:  The Royal Canadian Mint has come up with a name for the new $2 CDN coin: an American dollar. — Keep your stick on the ice.

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Buying a rod without casting it is always tricky.  I know the bass pond sends rods out for demo’s.  Orvis rods have a consistentcy of action, that I learned to appreciate as I sold them and fished them.  The actions vary between the different class of rods but there is a consistency overall that is hard to explain.  Keep shopping and you’ll find what you like at a price you can afford.  I prefer, an early 9ft sage 1st generation 4-5 five weight, the Orvis western 9ft 3wt, 8-6 2wt and the fullflex 6wt BMckinley Mpls

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LLOOMIS   L O O M I S   L    O    O    M    I    S   REGARDS MATT

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The house of Rep. in washington is considering a bill to establish a national fishing license, (snip) What do you think about the idea of a national fishing license?

        It will probably do the same thing the Federal commercial drivers license did!  I held a class A license since I was 21, but at $13 a year I could afford it even though I was no longer driving "big rigs".  The "Fed" came in and now the class A in Texas is $40!  I went back to a class c!         There is NO WAY I want the Federal Gov’t involved in "our" fishing, and if you take a look at what the NFWS is doing, you won’t either!!!

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The house of Rep. in washington is considering a bill to establish a national fishing license,  at this point it is only a bill to althorize the study of feasability of a national fishing license ( H.R. 406 ih) to read the actual bill go (http://thomas.loc.gov) do a search on the subject fishing.   At first I was upset at the thought of more goverment fees and regulations in order to enjoy my favort pasttime, but after really reading the bill, it may be a pretty good idea, we will be able to fish more than one state without having to buy out-of-state licenses What do you think about the idea of a national fishing license?

Up until a few years ago we had different licences for different areas in the UK. It’s a lot better now that there is only one license and only slightly more expensive. IMO one of the best things that happened to fishing in the UK. Compuserve:       100520,2042 Do not use a hatchet to remove a fly from your friend’s forehead. (Apparently a Chinese proverb)

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: What if the cost of a state license was around $16.25 (N.J. 1995 price) : and the cost of a Federal license were $18.00.

 in your example such a state would get 1/51 of $1.75, less the enormous amount the Federal government would pocket. Faced with a loss of revenue, the management programs such as stocking, would suffer in those places.  I personally would rather pay more, to fish some place good, than pay a little more just to be able to fish in more, mediocre places. As to those people who are not concerned the Federal government wouldn’t siphon off the money, check out Social Security. Last, the Federal government has no authority for creating such a law. Unless it is strictly a tax. If the states want to agree amoung themselves that’s another matter.

Each state would get 1/51 of 18.00 less the siphoned off funds (I would persume) not 1/51 of 1.75  why would the gov give the state 16.25? just because thats what they themselfs charge for a resident license? Most likely what will happen is the Fed gov will take over stocking operations, which will no doubt get mucked up and turn into a SUPERFUND waste.  Even though you say you will pay a little more for a state license in order to get better fishing,  others will not, and will be fishing right along side of you. there will be  no stocking done, the EPA will start screaming about LEAD,  the Attorny General will be screaming about Mercury, in the fish.   of course youll have to buy a saltwater license after that…. Personally I am begining to feel that it is not a good idea for the Gov to get involved within state fishing licenses.  the savings in order to fish in more than one state, does not compair to the costs that will be incurred with headaches.

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: What if the cost of a state license was around $16.25 (N.J. 1995 price) : and the cost of a Federal license were $18.00.

 in your example such a state would get 1/51 of $1.75, less the enormous amount the Federal government would pocket. Faced with a loss of revenue, the management programs such as stocking, would suffer in those places.  I personally would rather pay more, to fish some place good, than pay a little more just to be able to fish in more, mediocre places. As to those people who are not concerned the Federal government wouldn’t siphon off the money, check out Social Security. Last, the Federal government has no authority for creating such a law. Unless it is strictly a tax. If the states want to agree amoung themselves that’s another matter.

Each state would get 1/51 of 18.00 less the siphoned off funds (I would persume) not 1/51 of 1.75  why would the gov give the state 16.25? just because thats what they themselfs charge for a resident license? Most likely what will happen is the Fed gov will take over stocking operations, which will no doubt get mucked up and turn into a SUPERFUND waste.  Even though you say you will pay a little more for a state license in order to get better fishing,  others will not, and will be fishing right along side of you. there will be  no stocking done, the EPA will start screaming about LEAD,  the Attorny General will be screaming about Mercury, in the fish.   of course youll have to buy a saltwater license after that…. Personally I am begining to feel that it is not a good idea for the Gov to get involved within state fishing licenses.  the savings in order to fish in more than one state, does not compair to the costs that will be incurred with headaches.

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Personally I am begining to feel that it is not a good idea for the Gov to get involved within state fishing licenses.  the savings in order to fish in more than one state, does not compair to the costs that will be incurred with headaches.

Is it even legal?  The Constitution gives the federal government power to regulate interstate commerce.  Other powers it reserves for the states.  Is there some sort of precedent for this?  If there is, I’d think they’d want to make a national driver’s license before a national fishing license. | |                                                                       | | | John H. Kim          "Just try telling the IRS you don’t feel like    | | | Keeper of the Fishing FAQ        ftp://tuna.mit.edu/d/pub/fishing/faq |

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Personally I am begining to feel that it is not a good idea for the Gov to get involved within state fishing licenses.  the savings in order to fish in more than one state, does not compair to the costs that will be incurred with headaches. Is it even legal?  The Constitution gives the federal government power to regulate interstate commerce.  Other powers it reserves for the states.  Is there some sort of precedent for this?  If there is, I’d think they’d want to make a national driver’s license before a national fishing license.    John, they did!  It is the federal comercial drivers license (CDL)

and now costs $40 as opposed to the former class a license in Texas, which was $13!  Everything is legal if it’s unopposed!

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The house of Rep. in washington is considering a bill to establish a national fishing license,  at this point it is only a bill to althorize the study of feasability of a national fishing license ( H.R. 406 ih) to read the actual bill go (http://thomas.loc.gov) do a search on the subject fishing.   At first I was upset at the thought of more goverment fees and regulations in order to enjoy my favort pasttime, but after really reading the bill, it may be a pretty good idea, we will be able to fish more than one state without having to buy out-of-state licenses What do you think about the idea of a national fishing license?

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The problem with a national license is that all of the funds that are now generated by individule states for their particular fisheries managment programs would disapear.  

What if the cost of a state license was around $16.25 (N.J. 1995 price) and the cost of a Federal license were $18.00.  would you buy the federal license for a few more dollars and be able to fish anywhere,  or would you buy the state license?   I agree that there is much room for revenue abuse,  but would you make the purchase? Wally

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The house of Rep. in washington is considering a bill to establish a national fishing license,  at this point it is only a bill to althorize really reading the bill, it may be a pretty good idea, we will be able to fish more than one state without having to buy out-of-state licenses What do you think about the idea of a national fishing license?

The problem with a national license is that all of the funds that are now generated by individule states for their particular fisheries managment programs would disapear.  I’m sure that once Washington got ahold of the money it would somehow get diverted to some other use rather than fisheries managment.  Even though it would be nice to be able to fish anywhere with only one license, I think that this is a bad idea. MHO Bryan Stafford

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: The problem with a national license is that all of the funds that are : now : generated by individule states for their particular fisheries managment : programs would disapear.   : What if the cost of a state license was around $16.25 (N.J. 1995 price) : and the cost of a Federal license were $18.00.  would you buy the federal : license for a few more dollars and be able to fish anywhere,  or would : you buy the state license?   This overlooks the fact that less populous states with good fishing benefit from the influx of non-resident license dollars. While it might save you some bucks, in your example such a state would get 1/51 of $1.75, less the enormous amount the Federal government would pocket. Faced with a loss of revenue, the management programs such as stocking, would suffer in those places.  I personally would rather pay more, to fish some place good, than pay a little more just to be able to fish in more, mediocre places. As to those people who are not concerned the Federal government wouldn’t siphon off the money, check out Social Security. Last, the Federal government has no authority for creating such a law. Unless it is strictly a tax. If the states want to agree amoung themselves that’s another matter.

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       It will probably do the same thing the Federal commercial drivers license did!  I held a class A license since I was 21, but at $13 a year I could afford it even though I was no longer driving "big rigs".  The "Fed" came in and now the class A in Texas is $40!  I went back to a class c!        There is NO WAY I want the Federal Gov’t involved in "our" fishing, and if you take a look at what the NFWS is doing, you won’t either!!!

The way the bill reads ( H.R. 406) is that the Federal license would not replace the state license,  it would be available as an alternive. you could still opt to purchase the state license and fish only within the state,  or you could buy the Federal license and fish in any state.  also you would need to buy any additional spieces stamps that the state you wanted to fish in imposed, if you were going to fish for that spieces or in waters that were stocked with that spieces ( in N.J. you need to buy a trout stamp to fish for trout,   it costs about 8.75 and looks like a postage stamp,  you affix it to your license)

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Here’s a hot one – As I was putting on my waders the other day, the guy parked next to me was putting on his vest and getting ready to head to the river.  I looked up and noticed he had EVERY gadget known to man on his vest.  His zingers looked like a general’s decorations.  Must have been at least 6 of them.  He even had his gooseneck mini-light (it was the middle of the afternoon).  I kinda rolled my eyes and went about my business.  An hour or so later I came upon him fishing upstream from where I was wading.  I just happened to look up to see him tie on a new fly, and damn if he didn’t take it up to his mouth and bite off the tag. Guess he forgot his nippers.  A sunny day,     a box of midges,        and a wandering stream…  Man, this MUST be heaven!  <    Steve Kulpa    <<

Hey !!! that was me !!!.  And no, I had everything, I just LUV the taste of tippet ! Hehehe just kidding I only have 5 zingers Tom

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Ah, an excellent organizational plan! I used to keep most of my flies, bugs, etc. in the car, but can’t afford a larger vehicle right now ;=). JL 8-Wt Editor

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So ugly flies is the answer to blues? I’ve been tying sand eels for the last two days, white and olive fishair with a few fibers of olive or blue sparkle and epoxy heads over stick-on eyes.  After Victorian mixed-wing salmon flies it’s a lark.  Going out tomorrow to Perkins Pier again with my new shooting head and see what that will do for me.  Have to figure out a whole new way of going at things, and this after fifty years of intuitive casting…it’s hell to writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I begin fishing in May, when the stripers show up. For that first month all I pack is one fly box containing size 1 Clousers and Surf Candies, two shooting heads – a floater and a sinker so I can fish through the tide, one spool of tippet material and pliers. In June, when the blues start showing up, I bring a spare reel and a tackle box (heathen!) where I keep poppers, wire shock tippets, and every fly I ever tied that was too ugly to show in public. If I’m going to sacrifice flies to blitzing blues they might as well be the ugly ones. I’ve never seen other flyfishers carrying a tackle box, but the things really work pretty well. Of course *my* tackle box is made of zebra wood and inlaid with mother of pearl…..

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When I briefly entertained the notion of buying an XXL vest to put over my existing one (needed somewhere to put that pair of Night Vision Binocs I was scrapin" up the money for…), I decided I might be a little out of control. Am now weaning myself off non-essentials, one for every trip, and will soon to be down to only 5 fly boxes… How Primitive!! Lon C. Diehl Michigan

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Re "too much junk": A few years ago, I decided to lose all the excess gadgetry in my vest. No more knot tying devices, bug capturing nets, stomach pumps, etc, etc, etc. I have only bought one gadget in the last couple years…Gus’ Montana Flot Pak. Its a hanger you clip to your vest that hold you fly flotant upside down on the front, where its easily accessible. It works great, and would have been especially useful when my vest was bulging with all that excess gear. I never seemed to put the floatant away in the same pocket twice, so whenever I needed it, I spent 5 minutes rummaging around trying to find it, cussing like a drunken sailor the whole time.  Seemed as though it was always in the last pocket.  Perhaps now that I have reduced my inventory to a bare minimum, I shouldn’t need it, but what the heck, the thing caught my eye and I couldn’t resist. I see Orvis and others have copied the concept, but I still think the Flot Pak is the best. Besides, the guy that invented it deserves credit, and business, for coming up with a nifty idea. Any moron can copy. Originality is rare and should be rewarded. Dale Owens

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Here’s a hot one – As I was putting on my waders the other day, the guy parked next to me was putting on his vest and getting ready to head to the river.  I looked up and noticed he had EVERY gadget known to man on his vest.  His zingers looked like a general’s decorations.  Must have been at least 6 of them.  He even had his gooseneck mini-light (it was the middle of the afternoon).  I kinda rolled my eyes and went about my business.  An hour or so later I came upon him fishing upstream from where I was wading.  I just happened to look up to see him tie on a new fly, and damn if he didn’t take it up to his mouth and bite off the tag. Guess he forgot his nippers.   A sunny day,      a box of midges,         and a wandering stream…   Man, this MUST be heaven!   <    Steve Kulpa    <<

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I intend to fish in 11-mile canyon this fall.  I have fished it before with little luck.  I am looking for suggestions about flys and technique.      This summer, I primarily flyfished Mueller State Park, Pueblo Reservoir, and Nicholes reservoir.  Mueller and Nicholes were very productive.  I am using a 8 1/2 foot Browning 6-7 wt.  I have tried Deckers without catching a fish.  I have a lot to learn.    Any help would be very welcome.  Thanks in advance.    Sherman W.

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I intend to fish in 11-mile canyon this fall.  I have fished it before with little luck.  I am looking for suggestions about flys and technique.     This summer, I primarily flyfished Mueller State Park, Pueblo Reservoir, and Nicholes reservoir.  Mueller and Nicholes were very productive.  I am using a 8 1/2 foot Browning 6-7 wt.  I have tried Deckers without catching a fish.  I have a lot to learn.   Any help would be very welcome.  Thanks in advance.   Sherman W.

I can’t help you with fly suggestions, try Angler’s Covey in Colorado Springs. (sorry, I don’t know the number, maybe someone else can post it) The one useful piece of advice I can offer is to practice keeping your cast low to the water with a tight loop. What Mel Krieger calls a "Madison River Cast". The wind can realy get going on south park and unless you can get a cast into it you’re going to have problems. Tight lines, Dave Opincarne

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: I intend to fish in 11-mile canyon this fall.  I have fished it : before with little luck.  I am looking for suggestions about : flys and technique.   :    This summer, I primarily flyfished Mueller State Park, Pueblo Reservoir, : and Nicholes reservoir.  Mueller and Nicholes were very productive.  I am : using a 8 1/2 foot Browning 6-7 wt.  I have tried Deckers without catching : a fish.  I have a lot to learn. :    Any help would be very welcome.  Thanks in advance. :    Sherman W. Not to rain on your parade, but there are easier places to fish than Deckers and 11mile.  Right now, the Arkansas around Howard or Cotopaxi should be pretty productive.  Try just a gold ribbed hares ear nymph, or if you see a hatch coming off, and can reasonably match it go for it. If you’ve been going to Mueller SP, for just a little more time and gas money you can have a lot more fun.  Just about all of the S. Platte river above Spinney is open to fishing, and all the places on it that I’ve fished, respond well to nymphs (bead head, hares ear, etc.), and hoppers & humpies during the day.  This is a good place to get to know now, as when summer ends, and the big browns move in to the river from spinney, the fishing gets a lot more fun.  If you need more spec. info. try some of the fly shops, in CS or just about anywhere.  I would be happy to mail you some addr. if you are out of the area. Good Luck, Dave — | Any opinions expressed are not those of UCCS, but neither are the facts. | |                                                                          | | "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, especially in an AI program."  | |                         – Derek Partridge                                |

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: I intend to fish in 11-mile canyon this fall.  I have fished it : before with little luck.  I am looking for suggestions about : flys and technique.   :    This summer, I primarily flyfished Mueller State Park, Pueblo Reservoir, : and Nicholes reservoir.  Mueller and Nicholes were very productive.  I am : using a 8 1/2 foot Browning 6-7 wt.  I have tried Deckers without catching I just fished 11-mile Canyon 6 days ago.  I’ve only been to Colorado twice, and both times I must admit, the fish count out there beats the hell out of what we have here in the east.  I stopped down to the Angler’s Covey to buy 3 copies each of several local patterns of what was supposed to be the current hot flies.  My best success came late in the evening on a #24 light cahill.  Some of these guys get real scientific spewing Latin terms around, but in my experience, size is the most important factor and general coloration is next. The rainbows were fat and healthy.  (Sounds like a contradiction, but I guess I’m fat and healthy too!)  Not being used to sucking oxygen from the air at 8,500′, it was nice to be able to park streamside.  My one other Colorado fishing experience was at Cheesman Canyon, and it was worth the effort to hike into.  Anyway. . . The guy I fished with says that the trout at 11-mile Canyon are not all that leader shy — YET.  I used 8x, but that was because I bought some new Orvis tippet material that at 8x was rated stronger than what I used to buy at 4x.  Nice stuff. Anyway, I took one of my 7-1/2′ 4-wt glass rods.  I dare say I was the only one fishing a glass rod and/or a "short" rod.  I caught as many trout as the locals, and I caught them on eastern dry fly patterns. Supposedly small (#18-20) pheasant tails, bead head nymphs, gr hare’s ears were supposed to be working during times of no surface activity. I tried and RS-2 (what does "RS-2" stand for?) when I saw a bunch of tails and backs but no noses.  I guess you’re supposed to fish the emergers with a strike indicator, but I don’t like fly fishing with a bobber. Anyway, that stretch of S. Platte was a nice crick.  Saw a black bear on the way out which was kind of fun.  I didn’t land any huge trout, but I saw a few thick backs that I estimated belonged to fish in the 20 inch range.  I understand there are some bigger trout up there. All in all, it was a great vacation, ‘cept I only played golf once and only fished once.  It was really neat to hit 300+ yard tee shots, something I’ve never come close to down here near sea level. Enjoy, — Tom

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: I just fished 11-mile Canyon 6 days ago.  I’ve only been to Colorado twice, : and both times I must admit, the fish count out there beats the hell out : of what we have here in the east.  I stopped down to the Angler’s Covey It’s just not true.  There are no fish here in Colorado.  Trust me. : I tried and RS-2 (what does "RS-2" stand for?) when I saw a bunch of It stands for Rim’s Semblance #2.  Rim came here hundreds of years   ago from Korea and invented this fly as an imitation of the mayfly larva we have here in the S. Platte. : but I saw a few thick backs that I estimated belonged to fish in the : 20 inch range.  I understand there are some bigger trout up there. My son landed/released a 23" bow there this summer.  No, that wasn’t here.  It must have been in Wyoming.  We don’t have fish here. : All in all, it was a great vacation, ‘cept I only played golf once : and only fished once.  It was really neat to hit 300+ yard tee shots, : something I’ve never come close to down here near sea level. Yeah, you can get deeper into the rough here than is possible in the lowlands.  :-) : Enjoy, : — Tom Glad you had a good time. Bryan

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   I am going to build some baitcasting rods and a flyrod.  Could somebody tell me the best way to order Sage blanks?  Can they be ordered directly from Sage?  Also where can I get rod components (cork, reel seat, guides, etc…) by mail order catalog. Thanks in advance, Chad — |          307 SW 16th Ave #349 G-ville, Fl 32601             | |                Voice: (904)377-3807                         | |                  Fax: (904)375-0357                         |

Dale Clemens (a mail order house) sells blanks, components, and training material.  Don’t have there address or number here at work but I’m sure someone on the net must.  None of the houses I know of sell Sage Blanks but our local Fly Fishing Speciality Shop does.  They also have some Sage Blem Blanks (at least they did a couple of weeks back).  Give them a call and tell them I sent you.  Ask for Dave, if he is in, but any of the guys there are very competent.  They also have all the components you might need.   The Angler’s Covey Inc.   917 W. Colorado Ave   Colorado Springs, CO. 80905   1-800-753-4746 Good Luck, Bryan Remember:  Fishing is NOT a matter of life and death.               It is much more important than that!            Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.               Teach a man to fish and you get rid of him on weekends. Bryan Call (719)590-5772  |All opinions expressed here are mine & mine alone. Hewlett-Packard Co.       |  But then, I’ve never let that stop me before.     P.O. BOX 2197             |    Many men go fishing all their lives without Colorado Springs, Co 80901|    knowing that it is not fish they are after.

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        I am going to build some baitcasting rods and a flyrod.  Could somebody tell me the best way to order Sage blanks?  Can they be ordered directly from Sage?  Also where can I get rod components (cork, reel seat, guides, etc…) by mail order catalog. Thanks in advance, Chad — |          307 SW 16th Ave #349 G-ville, Fl 32601             | |                Voice: (904)377-3807                         | |                  Fax: (904)375-0357                         |

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