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Early season in Kamloops

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June is prime time, but  May could be OK too if it is not too early in the month. I know August sucks. Get on Google and find someone up there to email? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I hope to hit the Kamloops area of B.C. early in the season in 2002. I anticipate ice-out will occur about May, early for lower elevations and later for higher elevations. I would appreciate any advice, hints, locations of hot lakes, comments on fishing this time of year, etc.

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Check out some of the local fly shops when you are there, most will help you out. I am trying to remember the names of a few I particularly liked, but they escape me. (I know exactly how to get to one where the owner was particlarly helpful, but I can’t remember the name of the shop.) Expect to use midges, scuds, leeches, or other early season food imitations. You might keep an eye on the sportfishing BC forum at http://www.sportfishingbc.com/forum/ or the Fishing BC forum http://www.fishbc.com/cgi-bin/board/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&nu… I hope this helps. I am planning on being in the areq in mid-April or early May myself. Sometimes I can get some fishing in, sometimes not. Hope this helps Tim Lysyk

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I hope to hit the Kamloops area of B.C. early in the season in 2002. I anticipate ice-out will occur about May, early for lower elevations and later for higher elevations. I would appreciate any advice, hints, locations of hot lakes, comments on fishing this time of year, etc.

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Some lakes are open in April or even late March. Stump, Six Mile, Jocko and White are known for long a open season and provide fishing before the 1st of May.  Concentrate on lakes in the 3000 foot elevation range.Paul Lake is within an easy drive of Kamloops and is a lake at the proper elevation for that time of year. Early in the season blood worms, leech, corixa and chironmids are the primary hatch. If the weather is mild or warm chironmid hatches can be prolific. Chironomids are the most consistent hacth in May and into early June. Cold weather fronts will negatively effect the fishing. Towards the end of the month it is possible to hit excellent hatches or callibaetis mayflies and even damsels in some lower lakes. All will depend on the timing of ice free conditions and if there is a cold or warm spring. The worst timing would be to fish a lake in turnover, the best immediately after ice off. Yosh’s tackle in Kamloops is a good tackle store or the Logan Lake fly shop. Ask for Georgi at Logan Lake. The best discussion forum is at fishbc.com. Many area residents, guides and tackle shop jockeys frequent this site and are more than willing to provide info and advice. be sure to get as up to date information as possible before you go and adjust your fishing locale accordingly.

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I hope to hit the Kamloops area of B.C. early in the season in 2002. I anticipate ice-out will occur about May, early for lower elevations and later for higher elevations. I would appreciate any advice, hints, locations of hot lakes, comments on fishing this time of year, etc.

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Give Georgi Abbot of the Logan Lake Fly Shop and email. She’s happy to Don – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I hope to hit the Kamloops area of B.C. early in the season in 2002. I anticipate ice-out will occur about May, early for lower elevations and later for higher elevations. I would appreciate any advice, hints, locations of hot lakes, comments on fishing this time of year, etc.

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Flies » Deshutes River Tips?

Deshutes River Tips?

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In late August I will be fishing the deshutes near Bend Or.  At the Inn at the Seventh Mountain.  Does anyone have any information regarding this river, what to use, what to fish for and if it’s any good?  Please e-mail me and let me know.  Thanks in advance!

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The "squawfish" are fighting hard in that area.

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Closest would be Lava Island Falls area.  About a mile upstream is Dillon Falls.  Fishing anywhere in this area is good and from the Inn you can walk to them all. Just try using a large olive hare’s ear, bead head prince nymph, or tan elk hair caddis.  Check with The Patient Angler in Bend off of Colorado Ave., they will be able to give you any further advice on recent hatches.

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The "squawfish" are fighting hard in that area.

I hear that the black bullhead can really put up a dogged fight when hooked on a #4 corn fly.   -John – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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In late August I will be fishing the deshutes near Bend Or.  At the Inn at the Seventh Mountain.  Does anyone have any information regarding this river, what to use, what to fish for and if it’s any good?  Please e-mail me and let me know.  Thanks in advance!

Hi Bryan, I would fish streams early and late in the day at that time of year. There are fly shops in Sister’s, Bend, Sun River and Camp Sherman. They can tell you about the fishing, what flies to use and can supply you with a guide. The lakes, like Crane Prairie, can be very good at that time, also. You have the Deschutes, Metolius, Crooked and Fall Rivers to choose from. The Deschutes river also has steelhead in July through October. I would try to find a copy of ‘Harry Teel’s No Nonsense Guide To Fly Fishing Central & Southeastern Oregon’, published by David Marketing Communications in Sisters, Oregon. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Flies » Need Help finding good flyfishing spot in Maine

Need Help finding good flyfishing spot in Maine

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: Can you help?  My brother-in-law enjoys flyfishing (mostly in Michigan where : he lives).  We will be vacationing together this August in Boothbay Harbor, : Maine and I would like to be able to point him to a good spot to go : flyfishing. : If you have any suggestions, I would be glad to pass them along.  He would : be most interested in a spot which would be an easy drive from Boothbay. : Thanks, : Bob LaMontagne : Cincinnati, OH The Atlantic Ocean. He can use his fresh water rod and 4 feet of 4 pound tippet with small clousers to catch macks and schoolies, which are likely to be 95%-100% of his hhok ups. If he hangs a big striper, he will have a hell of a great time trying to get him in. Tell him to be SURE to wash all his gear in fresh water after each trip. This means pop the spool out of the reel and wash all the rod guides.

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Boothbay has a number of ponds that are very good fishing. Smallmouth bass will readily take poppers and yellow deerhair bugs in the early morning and evening hours. If he wants to try ocean fly fishing, there are stripped Bass that run 12 to 40 inches, mackerel run 8 to 20 inches and Bluefish up to 25 pounds.     I f he wants landlocked salmon and brook trout, he’ll have to fish tiny dries or nymphs on bottom. If you need to know more or want to purchase flies designed for the fishing here, you can contact me at http://www.kynd.com/~ronmcq/fsf/fsf.html Ron McKusick Featherside Flies Corinna Maine – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can you help?  My brother-in-law enjoys flyfishing (mostly in Michigan where he lives).  We will be vacationing together this August in Boothbay Harbor, Maine and I would like to be able to point him to a good spot to go flyfishing. If you have any suggestions, I would be glad to pass them along.  He would be most interested in a spot which would be an easy drive from Boothbay. Thanks, Bob LaMontagne Cincinnati, OH

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Can you help?  My brother-in-law enjoys flyfishing (mostly in Michigan where he lives).  We will be vacationing together this August in Boothbay Harbor, Maine and I would like to be able to point him to a good spot to go flyfishing.

Grand Lake Stream (between two lakes in Washington Cty.) has (or used to have) landlocked salmon and trout as well as bass and may be the closest to Mount Desert I.  Check whether any of the Atlantic salmon rivers in August, possibly the Dennys or Machias. — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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Can you help?  My brother-in-law enjoys flyfishing (mostly in Michigan where he lives).  We will be vacationing together this August in Boothbay Harbor, Maine and I would like to be able to point him to a good spot to go flyfishing. If you have any suggestions, I would be glad to pass them along.  He would be most interested in a spot which would be an easy drive from Boothbay. Thanks, Bob LaMontagne Cincinnati, OH

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » River Fly Fishing » Advice – Stowe, VT

Advice – Stowe, VT

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I will be in Stowe the last week in August, and was hoping someone could direct me to some areas to fish. I was hoping to hit some Trico’s, if they were around. I’ve been known to drag a few nymphs also. It will be my first – and possibly last – time fishing the area, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Jerry Virzi

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I will be in Stowe the last week in August, and was hoping someone could direct me to some areas to fish. I was hoping to hit some Trico’s, if they were around. I’ve been known to drag a few nymphs also. It will be my first – and possibly last – time fishing the area, so any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Jerry Virzi

Jerry, Your trip sounds so fatalistic.  Areas you  ought to fish include the Lamoille in Hyde Park and from Morrisville to Wolcott.  You might also want to consider the Winooski in Waterbury and Bolton.  Trico’s may still be around depending on the weather but you are likely to hit the white mayfly (ephorons) and Blue Quill hatch.  White Wulffs and Millers work well when the white mayfly hatch is on as well as white soft hackles. Don’t forget a good supply of caddis and beadheads.  Good luck…let me know if you have any questions. James Ehlers Underhill, Vermont Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service Vermont Fly Fishing, Hunting, River and Woodland Outings http://pobox.com/~uncle

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » Flyfishing Safety Issues

Flyfishing Safety Issues

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 3.  I have always presumed that the two air bladders which provide a back support on my floatube are ample to at least keep me afloat.   Is this a naive assumption.

It is more likely you will flip upside down and drown than lose all three air bladders. Ernie Harrison

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3.  I have always presumed that the two air bladders which provide a back support on my floatube are ample to at least keep me afloat.  Is this a naive assumption.

I think that the assumption is correct BUT: These tubes are not attached to your body.  That is you have to make sure you can hold on to them one way or another. Maybe more critical is hypo thermia.  If your main flotation fails, the chances are that you are going to get wet.  Depending on conditions and time immersed, this can lead to great trouble. William Buchman

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I already posted this once, but got no responses.  So I’m going to try once more to see if I can get some answers.  If you remember responding to my first post, let me know by e-mail.  This will let me know that for some reason, I am not seeing all of the messages posted to this board.  Thanks                                                            -dnc- Some of the recent posts on float tube and wader safety have really opened my eyes to the issue.  Thanks to all for the fair warning.  But now I have more questions. 1.  The ‘Sea Hunt’ solution:  Remember when scuba diver Mike (Lloyd Bridges) used to save the day with one of those little, autoinflatable ‘balloons’ he kept handy?  Do those devices still exist.  Seems like the perfect solution; non bulky, yet there when you really need it.  Anyone have any knowledge on such devices and how well they work, etc. 2.  If I were to tip over backwards in my floatube as I was exiting the water, it seems like the right thing to do would be to (a) disengage the quick release on the strap that connects the seat to the tube (b) reach up and push the tube away as I slide my feet out of the tube. i.e. I come out of the tube the same way I usually do (except for the fact that I’m upside down).  This seems like the common sense way to do it, but is it the optimal solution when you are in very shallow water (say, just deep enough so you can’t use your arms to push your head above water).   3.  I have always presumed that the two air bladders which provide a back support on my floatube are ample to at least keep me afloat.  Is this a naive assumption. 4.  I forgot, if you do fall into a strong current, you try to keep your feet pointed downstream: correct?  Seems like you have the double problem of keeping your head away from rocks and also trying to keep water out of your waders.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I already posted this once, but got no responses.  So I’m going to try once more to see if I can get some answers.  If you remember responding to my first post, let me know by e-mail.  This will let me know that for some reason, I am not seeing all of the messages posted to this board.  Thanks                                                            -dnc- Some of the recent posts on float tube and wader safety have really opened my eyes to the issue.  Thanks to all for the fair warning.  But now I have more questions. 1.  The ‘Sea Hunt’ solution:  Remember when scuba diver Mike (Lloyd Bridges) used to save the day with one of those little, autoinflatable ‘balloons’ he kept handy?  Do those devices still exist.  Seems like the perfect solution; non bulky, yet there when you really need it.  Anyone have any knowledge on such devices and how well they work, etc. 2.  If I were to tip over backwards in my floatube as I was exiting the water, it seems like the right thing to do would be to (a) disengage the quick release on the strap that connects the seat to the tube (b) reach up and push the tube away as I slide my feet out of the tube. i.e. I come out of the tube the same way I usually do (except for the fact that I’m upside down).  This seems like the common sense way to do it, but is it the optimal solution when you are in very shallow water (say, just deep enough

You can now get CG approved inflatable PFD’s. You should always wear a PFD in your tube. (some places it’s the law) You should ALWAYS wear a belt around the ouside of your waders high enough to prevent water from spilling into them & regulate the amount you take in. Be Safe!! Bill D.  so you can’t use your arms to push your head above water). – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 3.  I have always presumed that the two air bladders which provide a back support on my floatube are ample to at least keep me afloat.  Is this a naive assumption. 4.  I forgot, if you do fall into a strong current, you try to keep your feet pointed downstream: correct?  Seems like you have the double problem of keeping your head away from rocks and also trying to keep water out of your waders.

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Pullman, Washington Fishing??

Pullman, Washington Fishing??

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I have a business meeting in Pullman, Washington June 28 – 21.  Are there any trout streams in the area (3 – 4 hour radius) which won’t be flooded out during that time with reasonable access to wading. Thanks for any advice. Brent Buckley

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: I have a business meeting in Pullman, Washington June 28 – 21.  Are : there : any trout streams in the area (3 – 4 hour radius) which won’t be flooded : out during that time with reasonable access to wading. Sure, take a look through the entire N. Idaho region.  St. Joe, Lochsa, Selway, St. Maries, Marble Creek, Clearwater (all forks), …etc. All will be very high water.  I would guess the St. Joe might be the best option by end of June. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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   Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly    : I have a business meeting in Pullman, Washington June 28 – 21.  Are    : there    : any trout streams in the area (3 – 4 hour radius) which won’t be flooded    : out during that time with reasonable access to wading.    Sure, take a look through the entire N. Idaho region.  St. Joe, Lochsa,    Selway, St. Maries, Marble Creek, Clearwater (all forks), …etc. But don’t neglect the Washington side of the Clearwater and lakes such as Lenore, Lenice, Amber to the west.  There are some pleasant small lakes around Lewiston, too.   — Laboratory for Applied Logic    Dept. of Computer Science University of Idaho             http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~foster pgp key available at: ftp://ftp.cs.uidaho.edu/pub/foster/pgp-key.asc

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » STRIPPING GUARDS

STRIPPING GUARDS

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Who needs em’…I mean does anyone really suffer cuts from stripping their line?

Saltwater anglers using shooting heads and FAST retrieves typically put a slice in the first knuckle creases of their index and middle fingers after a half day of fishing…This kind of device sounds interesting, although a little sports tape seems to work fine for me.

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STRIPPING GUARDS completely eliminate stripping cuts, and they continuously clean your line.  They are comfortable, durable Lycra finger sleeves that fit like skin and are guaranteed to improve the enjoyment of your flyfishing experience! ..This is SPAM for Condoms..Isn’t it??

I figured that a striping guard was just a fancy name for a bouncer at a nudie bar. — John Fereira Isis Distributed Systems – Ithaca, NY

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STRIPPING GUARDS completely eliminate stripping cuts, and they continuously clean your line.  They are comfortable, durable Lycra finger sleeves that fit like skin and are guaranteed to improve the enjoyment of your flyfishing experience!

..This is SPAM for Condoms..Isn’t it??

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Who needs em’…I mean does anyone really suffer cuts from stripping their line?

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Doug and Deb, We’ve seen this ad a few times now, and I personally am getting tired of it.  This newsgroup is not an advertising forum for your business.   Thanks. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – STRIPPING GUARDS completely eliminate stripping cuts, and they continuously clean your line.  They are comfortable, durable Lycra finger sleeves that fit like skin and are guaranteed to improve the enjoyment of your flyfishing experience!  Learn more about STRIPPING GUARDS at: http://www.ncw.net/~peterson/strippin.htm

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STRIPPING GUARDS completely eliminate stripping cuts, and they continuously clean your line.  They are comfortable, durable Lycra finger sleeves that fit like skin and are guaranteed to improve the enjoyment of your flyfishing experience!  Learn more about STRIPPING GUARDS at: http://www.ncw.net/~peterson/strippin.htm

Ok, we’ve been patient.  But, five of these irritating commercial posts in three days is getting a rise (notice the flyfishing ref.) out of me. Pace yourselves Doug ‘n Deb.  Once a week, or better yet, a month, would do what you want to do. Besides, the reality is most of us on rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying tend to be do-it-yourself-ers who’ll steal your concept and make our own.  Your casting to the wrong pool (yet another ff ref.).  So, go tie a killer fly and post the pattern for out edification! Tight threads, Charley

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STRIPPING GUARDS completely eliminate stripping cuts, and they continuously clean your line.  They are comfortable, durable Lycra finger sleeves that fit like skin and are guaranteed to improve the enjoyment of your flyfishing experience!  Learn more about STRIPPING GUARDS at: http://www.ncw.net/~peterson/strippin.htm

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STRIPPING GUARDS completely eliminate stripping cuts, and they continuously clean your fly line. They are comfortable, durable Lycra finger sleeves that fit like skin and are guaranteed to improve the enjoyment of your flyfishing experience!  Learn more about STRIPPING GUARDS at: http://www.ncw.net/~peterson/strippin.htm

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » NEW COLORADO VIRGIN WATER FLYFISHING RESORT

NEW COLORADO VIRGIN WATER FLYFISHING RESORT

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We are announcing the opening of a new full service catch and release flyfishing  resort located in North Central Colorado, near Walden, Colorado.  The new lodge  has a maximum capacity of 12 anglers per week and features gourmet foods,  outstanding new accommodations and twelve miles of virgin headwaters of the North Platte that have never been fished by the public.  Good populations of  browns, brookies, rainbows, cutthroats and cutbows in the same water.  All walk  and wade.  Guided.  Instruction available.  No extra costs.  For further  information, check out http://www.paloverde.com/~lilgriz/lgc.html or e-mail Tatum, Paradise Valley, Arizona  85253, or call 602-952-9732 for brochure.

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We are announcing the opening of a new full service catch and release flyfishing  resort located in North Central Colorado, near Walden, Colorado.  The new lodge  has a maximum capacity of 12 anglers per week and features gourmet foods,  outstanding new accommodations and twelve miles of virgin headwaters of the North Platte that have never been fished by the public.  Good populations of  browns, brookies, rainbows, cutthroats and cutbows in the same water.  All walk  and wade.  Guided.  Instruction available.  No extra costs.  For further  information, check out http://www.paloverde.com/~lilgriz/lgc.html or e-mail Tatum, Paradise Valley, Arizona  85253, or call 602-952-9732 for brochure.

If you need a review, please call… Tim Walker Colorado Virgin Fishing Water Critic At Large

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Far be it from me to criticize anyone trying to turn a buck, but it strikes me that this is what gives flyfishing a bad rep.  Oh well, it’s opening day in Pennsylvania tomorrow, the streams are well stocked, and it’s time for me to go out back and dig a few worms.  Anyone know where I can get some Powerbait between now and 8a.m.?                                          Mark Faulkner

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(Frogspritz) writes: Far be it from me to criticize anyone trying to turn a buck, but it strikes me that this is what gives flyfishing a bad rep.  Oh well, it’s opening day in Pennsylvania tomorrow, the streams are well stocked, and it’s time for me to go out back and dig a few worms.  Anyone know where I can get some Powerbait between now and 8a.m.?                                         Mark Faulkner

Oh, I thought he meant flyfishing resort water with some new Colorado virgins in it. I was trying to figure out how they made those girls virgins again.

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » River Fly Fishing » red canyon lodge,utah

red canyon lodge,utah

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I have been to the shop in Dutch John many times as well as the one on the West side of the dam.  Both are full service shops with everything you need.  The dutch john one is closed though during the winter.  We were up there in November and it had been closed for the season, so be aware of that also.  I’m not sure when it reopens.

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Barry, There really isn’t a flyshop in Dutch John.  The closest thing to it is the combination gas station/general store/restaurant there in town.  It has very little in the way of fly fishing supplies.  You better count on bringing your own supplies and equipment.  However, if you are hiring a guide, the guides up there are usually pretty well equipped to meet your fly fishing needs.  I would check with them first before you go.

There is actually a very adequet fly shop at the Flaming Gorge Lodge complex about half way between Red Canyon Lodge and the river.

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HAS ANYBODY BEEN TO THIS LODGE???? HOW CLOSE IS IT TO THE GREEN RIVER??? ,AND FINALLY CAN YOU RECOMMEND A GOOD FLY SHOP IN DUTCH JOHN ,UTAH

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I was just in Dutch John and at the Flaming Gorge Lodge, just past the dam, which is as complete a fly shop as one could want to find at such a location. they got the flies and the advice (supplimented by the dozen or so people milling about).  nice place

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Barry,   I was at the Red Canyon Lodge last October.  It is a nice place with friendly people and a pretty good restaurant.  They have two types of places to stay while there.  One is the deluxe cabin – nice and comfy. The other is call the rustic cabin. I wouldn’t recommend the rustics unless it is summertime (they have only a wood stove for heating and they share a common bathhouse – it can get cold up there).  There is also a couple of lakes on the property that you can fish in. The lodge is about 10 to 15 minutes from the closest access on the Green, which happens to be below the dam.  The next closest location which is known as "little hole" is another 15 minutes beyond that. There really isn’t a flyshop in Dutch John.  The closest thing to it is the combination gas station/general store/restaurant there in town.  It has very little in the way of fly fishing supplies.  You better count on bringing your own supplies and equipment.  However, if you are hiring a guide, the guides up there are usually pretty well equipped to meet your fly fishing needs.  I would check with them first before you go. Anyway good luck and tight lines. Terry

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Bill Dance: Satan's Minion?

Bill Dance: Satan's Minion?

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The guy is a snake oil selling fraud. I mean, who couldn’t catch 10 lb bass with regularity in a fish farm? If you are trying to learn how to fish, don’t use butthead Bill as a benchmark! FB — Fishin Buddy  o <<     o  |           These opinions are offered by weight  <     <  o       <J           provocative content may have occurred      <<       <<                    during shipping and handling.

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what caused such a rash against Bill.

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what caused such a rash against Bill.

He’s not a bad fisherman as long as he has his divers hookin’ those toads for him.

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The guy swears by a certain product (Stow Away Batteries)-(Now Champion), (Diawa)-(Now Quantum)and then turns around and talks up a new one when the sponsor antes up more money. He cant even stay with the people who sponsored him through his fishing career and made him what he is today. Just my opinion.

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I have to agree. Bill Dance will push the product that offers to pay him the most $$$. It really detracts from the show and his credibility. Al in NH

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Bill is  no worse than R. Martin, who is open about his "tools" used to film his spots.  As he put it to a friend of mine  - – - " they made Star Wars in a studio with tricks, didn’t they ??"   I guess it just comes with the turf.

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Bill is ALOT worse than Roland Martin. How many times do you hear where Roland is fishing today? Logan Martin, Okechobee, Lanier. Lakes everyone know and can access. And Bill? "We’re here fishing Gump’s Private Pond where trespassers will be shot."

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He is miles ahead of Jimmy, throw the fish in live well from the front of the boat, Houston. — Gert Jensen                         Editor: BACKCASTS 600 Warren Rd.                      VP Communication   Bldg.1, Apt.3-A                     Northeastern Council   Ithaca, NY 14850                    Federation of Fly Fishers Ph:607-257-5796                     ‘Conserving–Restoring–Educating Through Fly Fishing’       See our Home Page: http://light.lightlink.com/ephemera/

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I boycotted Dance for over 4 years after a 1986 episode where he was fishing for smallmouth below a TVA reservoir.  It seemed great at first (99% of his shows were just largemouth so this was a nice change of pace), but then he hooked what he thought was a world record smallmouth.  The fish turned out to be a large drum.  A real fisherman would have been thrilled to have caught something that fought well enough to be a record smallie, but Bill murdered the poor fish by drum".  What a jerk!  Real men know drum are a classy gamefish and a valuable asset to the ecosystem.  Of course drum are too smart to bite lures on a regular basis so Dance, thinking with his wallet, would not get sponsorship $ for intelligent species like drum, carp, etc. The Dancin’ Eel: most useless lure ever made? Stumbling onto his show in late 1990, he seemed to have become a kinder, gentler angler, taking better care of fish, but his shows seem staged. IMHO the only worthwhile Dance show is "The Worst of Bill Dance", 40 minutes of celebrity guests and bloopers.  Dance haters can take pleasure when he falls in the water, bangs his head, hooks himself, etc. Ahti Eric Rovainen

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The best part of bill dance? When in the bloopers episode, his snagged lure flies out of a tree (huge crankbait) and pops him in the croch. YES! Thats funny!

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What!, we all don’t use those bullshit "Nightcrawler Links"? Yes, cheap hotdogs in cherry koolaid.

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I have to agree. Bill Dance will push the product that offers to pay him the most $$$. It really detracts from the show and his credibility. Al in NH

How about Roland Martin??? His show is just an info-mercial for spiderwire the the guide who happens to be on his boat that week! RonM

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I have started watching Bill in the past 9 months. He is one of my favorites. Maybe I am missing something. He has good tips for me. He talks about how to preserve nature. Yes he sells products but are we supposed to stop watching Full House because they drink Pepsi. He has to fund his show. All shows need funding. There are not enough viewers to demand high dollars for a fishing show. This is just my opinion. I do like Jimmy, Bill, Hank, and Bass Masters.

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   I watch Bill Dance’s shows, too.  Every fisherman out there with a show advertises all the time.  That’s how they can pay for the show.  But I sure wish old Bill would just grab those bass out of the water when he gets them to the boat instead of yanking them up in the air so that it looks like they’re jumping.    Dennis  

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