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My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river? — Stay connected, Carl D. Sgro

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My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river?

Try this one:  http://www.gastons.com Never been there myself, but it’s probably the best known place on the White. — http://rwpatton.home.netcom.com/

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Last Feb we stayed at Rim Shoals campground. They had some nice cabins, small but clean and nice place to sleep.  I generally day trip it over there and dont spend the night much . . it’s about a 3 hour drive. Bob Patton: Where are you from ? -wayne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river? Try this one:  http://www.gastons.com Never been there myself, but it’s probably the best known place on the White. — http://rwpatton.home.netcom.com/

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Wayne: Me and a new buddy are heading up to the Norfork or White this Saturday for a daytrip.  Want to meet up with us Saturday morning? Memphis Jim (Inventor of the Impromptu Ozark Clave)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last Feb we stayed at Rim Shoals campground. They had some nice cabins, small but clean and nice place to sleep.  I generally day trip it over there and dont spend the night much . . it’s about a 3 hour drive. Bob Patton: Where are you from ? -wayne My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river? Try this one:  http://www.gastons.com Never been there myself, but it’s probably the best known place on the White. — http://rwpatton.home.netcom.com/

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My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river?

Norfork River Resort in Salesville, AR. Very nice, new cabins. Actually on the Norfork River, a tributary of the White, approximately 1 mile from the confluence. http://www.arkansas.com/attractions/attr_detail/r/Ozarks/id/90359/lr/…

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Man I would love to but my daughter’s last fall soccer game is this saturday. I dont think it would be cool for me (also the head coach) to skip the game. Then right after it’s over I have to go to mother-in-laws birthday dinner . . . . so saturday’s booked . . . . Maybe we can hook up another time . . . -wayne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wayne: Me and a new buddy are heading up to the Norfork or White this Saturday for a daytrip.  Want to meet up with us Saturday morning? Memphis Jim (Inventor of the Impromptu Ozark Clave) Last Feb we stayed at Rim Shoals campground. They had some nice cabins, small but clean and nice place to sleep.  I generally day trip it over there and dont spend the night much . . it’s about a 3 hour drive. Bob Patton: Where are you from ? -wayne My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river? Try this one:  http://www.gastons.com Never been there myself, but it’s probably the best known place on the White. — http://rwpatton.home.netcom.com/

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Excuses excuses. How can you become a flyfishing hermit when you are attentive to the needs of your loved ones? Memphis Jim

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Man I would love to but my daughter’s last fall soccer game is this saturday. I dont think it would be cool for me (also the head coach) to skip the game. Then right after it’s over I have to go to mother-in-laws birthday dinner . . . . so saturday’s booked . . . . Maybe we can hook up another time . . . -wayne Wayne: Me and a new buddy are heading up to the Norfork or White this Saturday for a daytrip.  Want to meet up with us Saturday morning? Memphis Jim (Inventor of the Impromptu Ozark Clave) Last Feb we stayed at Rim Shoals campground. They had some nice cabins, small but clean and nice place to sleep.  I generally day trip it over there and dont spend the night much . . it’s about a 3 hour drive. Bob Patton: Where are you from ? -wayne My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river? Try this one:  http://www.gastons.com Never been there myself, but it’s probably the best known place on the White. — http://rwpatton.home.netcom.com/

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I understand . . . LOL  . . . It looks like the first Sat I will be able to get away is going to be the 23rd.  . . . . wayne – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Excuses excuses. How can you become a flyfishing hermit when you are attentive to the needs of your loved ones? Memphis Jim Man I would love to but my daughter’s last fall soccer game is this saturday. I dont think it would be cool for me (also the head coach) to skip the game. Then right after it’s over I have to go to mother-in-laws birthday dinner . . . . so saturday’s booked . . . . Maybe we can hook up another time . . . -wayne Wayne: Me and a new buddy are heading up to the Norfork or White this Saturday  for a daytrip.  Want to meet up with us Saturday morning? Memphis Jim (Inventor of the Impromptu Ozark Clave) Last Feb we stayed at Rim Shoals campground. They had some nice  cabins, small but clean and nice place to sleep.  I generally day trip it over there and dont spend the night much . . it’s about a 3 hour drive. Bob Patton: Where are you from ? -wayne My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can  someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river? Try this one:  http://www.gastons.com Never been there myself, but it’s probably the best known place on  the White. — http://rwpatton.home.netcom.com/

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Check out http://www.mtnhome.net/brf/ Dale Fulton owns a fine fly shop in Mountain Home, AR, has access to guides, and has cabins on the river.  Also see http://www.mtnhome.net/fultons/ I have no direct relationship with Dale, other than I’ve shopped there, stayed in his lodge, and generally endorse him as a fine guy. Best, John. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife and I are looking to fly fish on the white river.  can someone recomend a guide and a lodge that has cabins on the river? — Stay connected, Carl D. Sgro

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » What is the best to buy F100 or F5

What is the best to buy F100 or F5

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well said I think.  put another way: A $10000 body will produce the same results as a $100 one if you shoot the basics. Sunil www.lockon.f2s.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I will probably be slammed by people thinking my reply is rude but here goes: If you have to ask this question you do not need an F5.  An F5 is a professional camera.  It is designed to withstand the rigors of pro use, and have the features we need when on location, regardless of the situation that comes up.  Buy the F100 or possibly the 90s.  Either of these cameras will save you close to $1000, and you can then buy better lenses.  One of the funniest things I see when working is I will be standing there with my F5 and my 80-200 AF-S, and someone will come up to me with an F5 and a tamron 28-200 lens on it and want to talk shop, and he has no clue what an f-stop is. Seriously, save your money, don’t spend it just because you have it.  You will be buying features you will NEVER use! Mike

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Your right.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am not upset. I just wanted to point out some thing you didn’t mention. No offense intended. Relax, he didn’t say what he needed the camera to do.  He just asked if the F5 was worth the money.  You act like I insulted your mother — not your camera.  Jeez. The F5 has every feature available to a 35mm camera (as far as I know). You can do everything photographic with it.  The F100 has limitations. To me the F5 is cheaper than the F100 because of a few features it has over the F100.  The easily swappable focusing screens, mirror lock-up, interchangeable viewfinders, and 100% viewfinder are all virtually priceless features.  I believe the F100 lacks DOF preview though I cannot be sure at the moment.  Personally I would think Nikon could include at least a few of these features considering how expensive the F100 is.  If you can cough up enough for the F100 then keep coughing until you get the F5 in your hands. :) There are two advantages to the F100, weight and price. If you need MLU, 100% viewfinder, etc go for the F5. If weight is an issue, the F100 is a great camera body. BTW the F100 has DOF preview. — Tom Thackrey tom at creative-light.com www.creative-light.com —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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What do you mean by "can’t use"?, is it not possible to mount an AI or AIS lens to the camera?, or does the matrix metering not function with MF lenses? If you are referring to Pre-AI lenses then I could see that they couldn’t be mounted to the camera (due to the AI tooth).

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey greg, If you are going to recommend the N90s then why not the N80? I thought I read somewhere that the N80 is the only Nikon that can’t use the older lenses. If this is true IMO then that’s reason enough not to bother with one.

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Hey greg, If you are going to recommend the N90s then why not the N80? I thought I read somewhere that the N80 is the only Nikon that can’t use the older lenses. If this is true IMO then that’s reason enough not to bother with one.

The AI and AIS Nikkors will mount to the N80, but the meter is inoperative. — Tony Polson

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Not even the spot-meter!?!?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey greg, If you are going to recommend the N90s then why not the N80? I thought I read somewhere that the N80 is the only Nikon that can’t use the older lenses. If this is true IMO then that’s reason enough not to bother with one. The AI and AIS Nikkors will mount to the N80, but the meter is inoperative. — Tony Polson

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Not even the spot-meter!?!?

Not even the spot meter.  The N80/F80 will meter only with lenses that have a built-in CPU.  All AF lenses will meter, plus all AI-P lenses.   Nothing else will meter. I found this very disappointing, as I think the N80/F80 is otherwise an excellent camera.  Had it metered with AI/AIS lenses, I would have bought one as a second body to go with my F3.   As it is, I bought an F4, sold the F3 and then bought an F4 as a second body to go with the first F4.  And I’ve steadily replaced my lenses over the last 5 months to the point where all but two are AF Nikkors.  So I’m now considering selling one F4 and replacing it with a smaller, lighter body, which includes just about every 35mm SLR camera ever made.  <g It will be either a used F100 or a new F80. — Tony Polson

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The N80 is for the "new generation" of camera users. Those who start new in the AF line. It is not marketed as a retro camera. The camera’s metering system only works with AF lenses. Regards, Roger – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What do you mean by "can’t use"?, is it not possible to mount an AI or AIS lens to the camera?, or does the matrix metering not function with MF lenses? If you are referring to Pre-AI lenses then I could see that they couldn’t be mounted to the camera (due to the AI tooth). Hey greg, If you are going to recommend the N90s then why not the N80? I thought I read somewhere that the N80 is the only Nikon that can’t use the older lenses. If this is true IMO then that’s reason enough not to bother with one.

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It will be either a used F100 or a new F80.

Why an F80 over an F90x?

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I guess he wants the more advanced AF.  That’s the only thing these two camera have in common that the F90x lacks.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It will be either a used F100 or a new F80. Why an F80 over an F90x?

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The F5 will probably make a much better door stop …. then again, you might be able to throw the F100 farther ….. just depends upon your priorities – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I will probably be slammed by people thinking my reply is rude but here goes: If you have to ask this question you do not need an F5.  An F5 is a professional camera.  It is designed to withstand the rigors of pro use, and have the features we need when on location, regardless of the situation that comes up.  Buy the F100 or possibly the 90s.  Either of these cameras will save you close to $1000, and you can then buy better lenses.  One of the funniest things I see when working is I will be standing there with my F5 and my 80-200 AF-S, and someone will come up to me with an F5 and a tamron 28-200 lens on it and want to talk shop, and he has no clue what an f-stop is. Seriously, save your money, don’t spend it just because you have it.  You will be buying features you will NEVER use! Mike

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Hey greg, If you are going to recommend the N90s then why not the N80?  Wouldn’t it be more for the money for someone shopping around for the N90s?

Following this line of logic, I suggest an N65 or a used EM. ;-) — Tony Polson

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…or a $15 used Nikon L35AF.  The AF is certainly fast enough. ;^)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey greg, If you are going to recommend the N90s then why not the N80? Wouldn’t it be more for the money for someone shopping around for the N90s? Following this line of logic, I suggest an N65 or a used EM. ;-) — Tony Polson

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Hey greg, If you are going to recommend the N90s then why not the N80?

I thought I read somewhere that the N80 is the only Nikon that can’t use the older lenses. If this is true IMO then that’s reason enough not to bother with one.

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I am not upset. I just wanted to point out some thing you didn’t mention. No offense intended. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Relax, he didn’t say what he needed the camera to do.  He just asked if the F5 was worth the money.  You act like I insulted your mother — not your camera.  Jeez. The F5 has every feature available to a 35mm camera (as far as I know). You can do everything photographic with it.  The F100 has limitations. To me the F5 is cheaper than the F100 because of a few features it has over the F100.  The easily swappable focusing screens, mirror lock-up, interchangeable viewfinders, and 100% viewfinder are all virtually priceless features.  I believe the F100 lacks DOF preview though I cannot be sure at the moment.  Personally I would think Nikon could include at least a few of these features considering how expensive the F100 is.  If you can cough up enough for the F100 then keep coughing until you get the F5 in your hands. :) There are two advantages to the F100, weight and price. If you need MLU, 100% viewfinder, etc go for the F5. If weight is an issue, the F100 is a great camera body. BTW the F100 has DOF preview.

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I will probably be slammed by people thinking my reply is rude but here goes: If you have to ask this question you do not need an F5.  An F5 is a professional camera.  It is designed to withstand the rigors of pro use, and have the features we need when on location, regardless of the situation that comes up.  Buy the F100 or possibly the 90s.  Either of these cameras will save you close to $1000, and you can then buy better lenses.  One of the funniest things I see when working is I will be standing there with my F5 and my 80-200 AF-S, and someone will come up to me with an F5 and a tamron 28-200 lens on it and want to talk shop, and he has no clue what an f-stop is. Seriously, save your money, don’t spend it just because you have it.  You will be buying features you will NEVER use! Mike

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I am planning to buy a new Nikon camra, question is if the F5 ist worth its money? The F100 is a cheaper and is it not as goog as the F5?

In some ways the F100 is better than the F5.  They are slightly different cameras, aimed at a slightly different market. The F5 is the latest development of the professional F range, starting with the 1959 Nikon F.  Like all its predecessors it has a 100% viewfinder, mirror lock up and easily interchangeable finders and focusing screens. The F100 is the latest development of the line that began with the F801 (N8008 in USA) and advanced through the F801s (N8008s), F90 (N90) and F90X (N90s) to the F100.  Whilst the F801 was aimed at amateurs, it was attractive to pros as a more compact body than its contemporary in the F range, the bulky and heavy F4, so it was perfectly logical to develop the camera into the pro tool the F100 is. The F100 has a 96% viewfinder, no mirror lock up and a limited range of focusing screens which are not very easy to change. The other differences are mainly in the metering; the F5 has RGB Matrix metering whereas the F100 has the most advanced version of Nikon’s 3D Matrix metering.  Both are state of the art metering systems, they are just different.  The F5 has the reputation of getting the exposure right all the time, and the F100 nearly all of the time, but I would hesitate to conclude that one is significantly better than the other. If you want a pro system SLR with easily interchangeable viewfinders and screens, or mirror lock up is essential to you, or RGB matrix metering attracts you, go for the F5.  If a lighter, more compact body (even with the MB-15 battery pack attached) attracts you, and mirror lock up is not absolutely vital, go for the F100. There is no wrong choice here; neither is "better".  Both are amongst the finest 35mm SLR cameras made; both are high quality rugged pro tools; both can help a good photographer produce outstanding results.   It’s a choice that many of us would like to have.  Good luck! — Tony Polson

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Let’s take an F5 and make it run at 4.5 fps instead of 8.  Then let’s get rid of the interchangeable prism and make it a fixed prism.  Take away MLU and the color matrix meter, and you should be left with a camera that’s about $700+ cheaper.  Sounds like an F100?  Keep DOF in all modes however and add red color to hilite the area being focused on and the F100 seems quite reasonable. — Wes Jansen Feather Foto LaConner, WA

Personally I would think Nikon could – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – include at least a few of these features considering how expensive the F100 is.

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Relax, he didn’t say what he needed the camera to do.  He just asked if the F5 was worth the money.  You act like I insulted your mother — not your camera.  Jeez.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The F5 has every feature available to a 35mm camera (as far as I know). You can do everything photographic with it.  The F100 has limitations. To me the F5 is cheaper than the F100 because of a few features it has over the F100.  The easily swappable focusing screens, mirror lock-up, interchangeable viewfinders, and 100% viewfinder are all virtually priceless features.  I believe the F100 lacks DOF preview though I cannot be sure at the moment.  Personally I would think Nikon could include at least a few of these features considering how expensive the F100 is.  If you can cough up enough for the F100 then keep coughing until you get the F5 in your hands. :) There are two advantages to the F100, weight and price. If you need MLU, 100% viewfinder, etc go for the F5. If weight is an issue, the F100 is a great camera body. BTW the F100 has DOF preview. — Tom Thackrey tom at creative-light.com www.creative-light.com —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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Tom There are two advantages to the F100, weight and price. Three, actually: The F100 can be set to focus on the closest of the five autofocus sensors, and the F5 cannot — you have to select a sensor by hand. —

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If you don’t need the AF speed then the Nikon F4 is a really great buy. The Nikon F3 or F2 with a handheld spot-meter would be a good buy too.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The F5 has every feature available to a 35mm camera (as far as I know). You can do everything photographic with it.  The F100 has limitations. To me the F5 is cheaper than the F100 because of a few features it has over the F100.  The easily swappable focusing screens, mirror lock-up, interchangeable viewfinders, and 100% viewfinder are all virtually priceless features.  I believe the F100 lacks DOF preview though I cannot be sure at the moment.  Personally I would think Nikon could include at least a few of these features considering how expensive the F100 is.  If you can cough up enough for the F100 then keep coughing until you get the F5 in your hands. :) Regards, dat I am planning to buy a new Nikon camra, question is if the F5 ist worth its money? The F100 is a cheaper and is it not as goog as the F5? Ren

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Reel » Steelhead line recommendation?

Steelhead line recommendation?

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Hot dawg.   The new 8 wt. is almost finished; and I can be optimistic enough about its timely completion to justify spooling some new line on the reel.   As the subject line suggests, this will be primarily for cold water steelhead fishing, and I’m wondering if any of you have a line recommendation.   The rod is a med. fast 9′-9" 8 wt.; and I expect to be doing a lot of roll casting with nymphs. TIA, Joe F.

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Hot dawg.   The new 8 wt. is almost finished; and I can be optimistic enough about its timely completion to justify spooling some new line on the reel.   As the subject line suggests, this will be primarily for cold water steelhead fishing, and I’m wondering if any of you have a line recommendation.   The rod is a med. fast 9′-9" 8 wt.; and I expect to be doing a lot of roll casting with nymphs. TIA, Joe F.

Joe, I use SA’s Nymph taper on my 9′ 6" 7 wt. for steelies.  It rollcasts exceptionally well and SA built it with a blunt taper and tip both to turn over splitshot and to float well in current.  The belly is a bit thicker than average and floats high.  It also turns over well with splitshot when overhead casting. Peter

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the subject line suggests, this will be primarily for cold water steelhead fishing Forgive my curiousity, but is there such a thing as warm water steelhead fishing?

No, there is cold water steelheading, and then there is really, really cold water steelheading, and then there is the "My testicles have turned blue and I haven’t felt my toes for 3 hours" steelheading. Haven’t done a lot of steelheading, but that’s been my experience, anyway. Kevin

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A good example of how everything is relative.  If I don’t have to change from my stockingfoot breathables to my bootfoot neoprenes, it’s warm water steelheading. JR — To reply, remove the Qs from the address above – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Forgive my curiousity, but is there such a thing as warm water steelhead fishing?      - Ken

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As the subject line suggests, this will be primarily for cold water steelhead fishing Forgive my curiousity, but is there such a thing as warm water steelhead fishing?      - Ken

–Summer steelheading on the Deschutes river the water will go up to 65-67 degrees.   It’s a desert water shed mainly. Sharp Hooks, Pat Holdzit Fishing Products Inc. http://www.holdzit.com Before you buy.

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Hi Ken, I try to get people to fly fish for steelhead in the summer and fall when the water temperature is hopefully in the 55 to 65 degree range. Normally with warmer water temps and low light levels in the morning and evening Steelhead will move vertically for the fly more like trout. You could call this ‘warm water’ steelheading? Winter steelheading is an admiral undertaking, but is not for everyone. With the colder water temps in the 40 to 50 degree range, Steelhead are not as active and classic fly fishing methods are not as effective. You could call this ‘cold water’ steelhead fishing? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hot dawg.   The new 8 wt. is almost finished; and I can be optimistic enough about its timely completion to justify spooling some new line on the reel. As the subject line suggests, this will be primarily for cold water steelhead fishing Forgive my curiousity, but is there such a thing as warm water steelhead fishing?      - Ken — "The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness.  You have to catch it yourself."      -Ben Franklin

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Hot dawg.   The new 8 wt. is almost finished; and I can be optimistic enough about its timely completion to justify spooling some new line on the reel. As the subject line suggests, this will be primarily for cold water steelhead fishing

Forgive my curiousity, but is there such a thing as warm water steelhead fishing?      - Ken — "The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness.  You have to catch it yourself."      -Ben Franklin

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Hot dawg.   The new 8 wt. is almost finished; and I can be optimistic enough about its timely completion to justify spooling some new line on the reel.   As the subject line suggests, this will be primarily for cold water steelhead fishing, and I’m wondering if any of you have a line recommendation.   The rod is a med. fast 9′-9" 8 wt.; and I expect to be doing a lot of roll casting with nymphs.

I use the Scientific Anglers Steelhead Taper on a somewhat slowish 10′ 7wt. — Ken Fortenberry

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Hi Joe, We see the largest variety of lines and rod sizes used for steelhead. We have settled down to 3 different lines for classic steelhead fishing with a  #7, 8 or 9 weight outfit for steelheading: 1)  A weight forward steelhead (very long belly and back taper) floater. These lines are designed for longer casting, longer mending and longer roll casting on big rivers.  Mastery, Rio or Orvis Wonderline. 2) A weight forward full line with a medium length (10′ to 15′ tip) sinktip line. Mastery or Rio.  We use this line in medium depths ( 4 to 8′) when it is sunny or if the water is so cold that the fish are not moving vertically for the fly. 3) A "Teeny type" very fast sinking longer sinktip (20′ to 30′ tip)  We use this line for deep runs on bigger river when the fish are holding very deep. Teeny, Mastery, Cortland, Rio, Airflow. PS: You can overline your rod if the line it calls for does not seem to be ‘loading ‘ your rod for you. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hot dawg.   The new 8 wt. is almost finished; and I can be optimistic enough about its timely completion to justify spooling some new line on the reel. As the subject line suggests, this will be primarily for cold water steelhead fishing, and I’m wondering if any of you have a line recommendation.   The rod is a med. fast 9′-9" 8 wt.; and I expect to be doing a lot of roll casting with nymphs. TIA, Joe F.

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Flies » Let it snow!

Let it snow!

Question:

Try hitting a beef shank bone if you want to hear shear pins in action… /daytripper (in a winter wonder land)

Here in Wisconsin we generally come up on the cow from behind.  Once the auger makes contact with the tail the cow invariably moves off  the driveway, post haste.  No need to hit ‘em in the shanks! Wolfgang in lala land

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Fortenberry writes: Oh holey moley, THIS is what passes for trash talk amongst the geriatric set. One-upmanship over snowblowers fer cryin’ out loud. I’m still shovelin’ and still castin’ that 9′ bamboo. ;-) — Ken Fortenberry- neener neener neener

Just took the new car with the 255/45 17inch performance tires to the super market.  It does not like snow!!!  d;0) Bought some strawberries and water melon. Have lots of martini fixins. Everything is copesetic. Dave L.

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Just took the new car with the 255/45 17inch performance tires to the super market.  It does not like snow!!!  d;0) Bought some strawberries and water melon. Have lots of martini fixins. Everything is copesetic. Dave L.

Wha’d ya buy?  (got check out what I’m likely gonna be chasin’) Peter

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Peter Charles: Wha’d ya buy?  (got check out what I’m likely gonna be chasin’)

A 2000 Audi A6 with the 300bhp 4.2L engine.  Goes like stink, but not in the snow with 255/40-17 Y rated tires.  It’s actually scarey out there.  Jo’s got the farm implement. Dave L.

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[a lot of snow whining snipped] The get a bit of snow and listen to the wusses. Nannook Peter Peter

Hey, now, don’t mistake my post for a complaint. Being snowbound gives me just the excuse I needed to work on the fly rod I’m building (since I’m not a fly tier, what else am I gonna do?). It is pretty amazing that we’ve had 17" of snowfall in the last 18 hours or so in Cary, NC. I grew up in Utah and can’t remember ever having that much snowfall in one day. Pass the back bacon, eh. –Steve

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A 2000 Audi A6 with the 300bhp 4.2L engine.  Goes like stink, but not in the snow with 255/40-17 Y rated tires.  It’s actually scarey out there.  Jo’s got the farm implement. Dave L.

AWESOME – you will be bringing that up here won’t you <GGGGGGGG Peter

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Just cleared six inches off the driveway.  My 15 year old Dukakus snowblower is still going strong. Hah! That’s a baby! My 30" 8hp Ariens was built in 1967. Bought it for $75 ten years ago, dropped all of $30 into it for a new carb, plug, and traction lock pin, and it starts first pull every time. They built this one to outlast a couple of owners ;^) Oh holey moley, THIS is what passes for trash talk amongst the geriatric set. One-upmanship over snowblowers fer cryin’ out loud.

Well, heck, what do you expect us geriatrics to be doing, anyway? We can’t even FIND open water under all this white stuff, never mind fish it! And actually, I thought that was one-downmanship, but what do I know. I was responding to someone who bought a $40000 accident-waiting-to-happen ;^) I’m still shovelin’ and still castin’ that 9′ bamboo. ;-)

If you put down the 9′ bamboo you’ll cast that shovel further ;^) /daytripper (snowblind in stow)

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Day Tripper: If you put down the 9′ bamboo you’ll cast that shovel further ;^) /daytripper (snowblind in stow)

Farther. Dave, duckin’ in the snow five miles south of Dave. Dave L.

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Day Tripper: If you put down the 9′ bamboo you’ll cast that shovel further ;^) /daytripper (snowblind in stow) Farther.

Oh well. I can spell just fine, but I need a context-checker! Dave, duckin’ in the snow five miles south of Dave.

I can still SEEEEEEE you! We didn’t get THAT much snow ;^) /daytripper (now comes the freezin’ rain…)

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Out here in the beautiful Western end of Massachusetts, I just finished clearing the first 6" and it’s now turning to sleet.  Oh joy. Hope it clears up before I drive down to Somerset, NJ Friday.  Picture on the front page of the local paper is a snow plow clearing snow off one of the local ponds – time for skating, not fishing.  A friend tells me he caught a good sized pickerel through the ice on a black wooly bugger Saturday… –Stan

You and me both Stan… I plan on coming out on Friday to view with out the crowds and then again on Saturday to meet with abunch of others on I’ll be driving back and forth though… It was sleeting today in So.Jersey but the main roads were in good shape. Plan on a long drive. Most of the speed limits are heavily reduced. — Michael Era

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Copper Mountain CO. fishing

Copper Mountain CO. fishing

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Does anyone know about fly fishing in the Copper Mountain Colorado area? I am planning a trip in August, ‘99. Thanks. Al Carlton

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Al, the Blue river is only about 12 miles east of Copper while the Eagle river and Gore Creek around Vail are about 20-25 miles west.  All of these have outstanding fishing.  Best bet is the Blue in and around Dillon.  There is good access and fishing can be great.  In the town right behind the factory outlet from the just below the dam to the I 70 bridge holds some really large fish. Use mysis shrimp flies thats about all that works.  Good luck.

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Does anyone know about fly fishing in the Copper Mountain Colorado area? I am planning a trip in August, ‘99. Thanks. Al Carlton

Try www.fishcolorado.com – great site and helpful owner/staff.  I was in the area too early this summer (last week).  Water should be great in August.  Good luck!

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Information on 1972 Pacemaker – Model and Value

Information on 1972 Pacemaker – Model and Value

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Thanks for the help, guys…. SpEEdo… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – He’s asking 17,500 on the side of it.  It’s a helluva deal with that big tuna tower and all the fishing rigging.  However, I’ve talked to 8 long-time sport fishermen about it and they told me Pacemaker had some I had one of these (1973) for sale two years ago.  It is great for near coastal cruising.. It has a relatively low center of gravity making it very stable.  It isn’t a full V hull as it is very flat in the stern.  This allows it acess to shallower water, but makes it pound more in the steep chop.  The flying bridge is fairly small. but adequate.  The fellow who bought it uses it in the L.I. sound regularly, and loves it.  There was no problem with blisters or delaminations. I think the $17,000 is a little high even rigged for offshore.  I sold the one at my place for $12,000 with two near new engines.  No fishing equiptment though. Boatbasin http://www.boatbasin.com

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<snip However, I’ve talked to 8 long-time sport fishermen about it and they told me Pacemaker had some AWFUL problems with blisters, delaminations and other ugly things that put the company out of business…..yecch.

What years were the eight?  An old-time marine surveyor told me that boats made before the Arab oil embargo of the mid-seventies had few if any problems with blisters.  Only after the embargo hit and oil prices went sky-high did manufacturers start tampering with resin formulations and unknowingly create blister city.  The boat in question is a ‘72 model and may be perfectly blister-free. Bill, W7TI

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He’s asking 17,500 on the side of it.  It’s a helluva deal with that big tuna tower and all the fishing rigging.  However, I’ve talked to 8 long-time sport fishermen about it and they told me Pacemaker had some

I had one of these (1973) for sale two years ago.  It is great for near coastal cruising.. It has a relatively low center of gravity making it very stable.  It isn’t a full V hull as it is very flat in the stern.  This allows it acess to shallower water, but makes it pound more in the steep chop.  The flying bridge is fairly small. but adequate.  The fellow who bought it uses it in the L.I. sound regularly, and loves it.  There was no problem with blisters or delaminations. I think the $17,000 is a little high even rigged for offshore.  I sold the one at my place for $12,000 with two near new engines.  No fishing equiptment though. Boatbasin http://www.boatbasin.com

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There’s one for sale in Charleston I have to walk by every time I go to my bud’s sailboat.  It had a little smoke damage from a fire in a home air conditioner he used but has been completely restored inside. It has radar/sonar/GPS/tv/microwave/Loran/2 alarms/lights/water/well, you get the idea. He’s asking 17,500 on the side of it.  It’s a helluva deal with that big tuna tower and all the fishing rigging.  However, I’ve talked to 8 long-time sport fishermen about it and they told me Pacemaker had some AWFUL problems with blisters, delaminations and other ugly things that put the company out of business…..yecch. Sure is tempting….it’s still floating, the new AC/heat pump is pumping and I see lights inside the stained-glass windows….(c; SpEEdo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am considering a 30′ Pacemaker – 1972. The owner says the model is Sportfish, but it sure has a small cockpit. It has a fly bridge and lower helm station which behind the step down salon/galley. This open helm area extends quite a way into the cockpit and includes the engine hatches (it has a fighting chair) and the cockpit seems quite short. I wonder if this is more a Cruiser model than a SF and if I’d get a better fishing boat if I looked for a later model. Does anyone have any knowledge of these models? I have looked in the "Sportfishing Boats 28-82′" guide and the oldest Pacemaker they show is a 1973 that has a different layout. The boat is in very good condition with outriggers, 489 hrs on 220/hp chryslers, older electronics (no GPS or radar) – he is asking $19K. Does this sound reasonable?? Thanks!

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I am considering a 30′ Pacemaker – 1972. The owner says the model is Sportfish, but it sure has a small cockpit. It has a fly bridge and lower helm station which behind the step down salon/galley. This open helm area extends quite a way into the cockpit and includes the engine hatches (it has a fighting chair) and the cockpit seems quite short. I wonder if this is more a Cruiser model than a SF and if I’d get a better fishing boat if I looked for a later model. Does anyone have any knowledge of these models? I have looked in the "Sportfishing Boats 28-82′" guide and the oldest Pacemaker they show is a 1973 that has a different layout. The boat is in very good condition with outriggers, 489 hrs on 220/hp chryslers, older electronics (no GPS or radar) – he is asking $19K. Does this sound reasonable?? Thanks!

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I wouldn’t trust the reliability of the hourmeter.  You need both a survey and a mechanic to check out your boat to decide if 19K is a good price. — — Jim Proud, but feeble minded Regal Owner Three can keep a secret, if two of them are dead.

| I am considering a 30′ Pacemaker – 1972. The owner says the model is | Sportfish, but it sure has a small cockpit. It has a fly bridge and lower | helm station which behind the step down salon/galley. This open helm area | extends quite a way into the cockpit and includes the engine hatches (it has | a fighting chair) and the cockpit seems quite short. | | I wonder if this is more a Cruiser model than a SF and if I’d get a better | fishing boat if I looked for a later model. Does anyone have any knowledge of | these models? I have looked in the "Sportfishing Boats 28-82′" guide and the | oldest Pacemaker they show is a 1973 that has a different layout. | | The boat is in very good condition with outriggers, 489 hrs on 220/hp | chryslers, older electronics (no GPS or radar) – he is asking $19K. Does this | sound reasonable?? | | Thanks! |

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » L.L. Bean

L.L. Bean

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Anyone have any thoughts on L.L. Bean flyrods? Thanks in advance.

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I believe they’re made by Loomis. Although Bean changes often. If you call  their FF desk, they may tell you. One thing about LL Bean , any problem, ever,  they take it back no questions asked. They have excellent customer service.

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Anyone have any thoughts on L.L. Bean flyrods? Thanks in advance.

If you like the way they cast, then I highly recommend them.  Bean’s backs up their products as completely as any vendor in the flyfishing business. You can’t go wrong with Bean’s.

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I teach fly casting at a local university. At the start of my last class, a  student showed up with an 8.5′ 6 wt sold by LL Bean. It was my first  opportunity to evaluate one. Because of Bean’s reputation, I had expected them  to be ‘okay’. To my surprise, it was not. It was excellent! Based on that, and  my prior dealings with the company in other areas, I’d say you can’t go wrong.

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Anyone have any thoughts on L.L. Bean flyrods?

I got a rod from LL Bean after being introduced to flyfishing by a couple of friends. It’s a low-mid range rod & reel (4 piece graphite travel rod), but it impressed both of the guys I fished with. Bean does change their model names around all the time, but I got the "Angler" model about three years ago for around $150. I’ve picked up most of my gear from Bean, including vest and boots. I’m a little sensitive about displaying their name all over my body, but I shopped around quite a bit (high end and low end) before ordering. My experience was that they have a good medium price on decent quality stuff with well designed features. And of course there’s the "don’t sweat it" warranty. — Jeff Cook Washington, DC area

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The service at LLBEAN is incredible.  I had a mix-up with replacement netting  for my dip net.  They bent over backwards to help on an $8 sale!  

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Anyone have any thoughts on L.L. Bean flyrods?

I ‘m very happy with a 9′ 5 wt Double L rod I picked up earlier this year.   My experience with Bean is that anything they sell as a major line (and their  fishing gear certainly qualifys as a major line) is good quality.  Sometimes  they dabble in things they don’t know much about–for example, I wouldn’t buy  a kayak from ‘em.   Allen

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Does anyone have any experience with L.L. Bean rods?  I’m looking at getting one of their Guide series 5-weights.  Any info on who they are made by? What about their guarantee?  Thanks for the help. Kevin Hernandez

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Does anyone have any experience with L.L. Bean rods?  I’m looking at getting one of their Guide series 5-weights.  Any info on who they are made by? What about their guarantee?  Thanks for the help. Kevin Hernandez </PRE</HTML

I don’t know anything about their Guide Series rods specificaly but I can tell you they are a fine company to do business with.  They stand behind all their products.  They have a great reputation and it is well earned. Joel Axelrad

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Does anyone have any experience with L.L. Bean rods?  I’m looking at getting one of their Guide series 5-weights.  Any info on who they are made by? What about their guarantee?  Thanks for the help.

I have that model, it’s a fine rod regardless of whoever makes it.  They originated the no-questions asked return policy.

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » False Albacore on Outer Banks?

False Albacore on Outer Banks?

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I read the article in the December issue of Fly Fisherman magazine by Tom Earnhardt on fishing for False Albacore off the Outer Banks of North Carolina. The article definitely got me excited, as Earnhardt claims peak fishing months are October and November. Furthermore, he also states several times in the article that it is not necessarily an advantage to have a boat to catch these fish…that many can be caught wading near inlets. My question is, can anybody out there confirm Earnhardt’s information? A friend and I are seriously considering a long weekend trip down there in November, but we sure don’t want to go all that way to wade and catch nothing! (Hiring a boat is simply not possible on our limited budgets.) Thanks, and if you haven’t read the article, check it out! Scott Wilkinson Bethesda, Maryland

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Scott, Tom’s article is correct, sometimes … In the Outer Banks, you can see an incredible range of conditions and therefore widely varying fishing situations, but for the most part, you will be able to cast to a catch albies from the beach. I would suggest contacting a local shop or two in the area you intend to travel to, and find out if the fish have been close in before you go. Try the Hatteras area, the Morehead City area and/or Harkers Island. All can be real hot spots when the fish are bitin’. Good luck, and hang on! Tom Dougherty – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I read the article in the December issue of Fly Fisherman magazine by Tom Earnhardt on fishing for False Albacore off the Outer Banks of North Carolina. The article definitely got me excited, as Earnhardt claims peak fishing months are October and November. Furthermore, he also states several times in the article that it is not necessarily an advantage to have a boat to catch these fish…that many can be caught wading near inlets. My question is, can anybody out there confirm Earnhardt’s information? A friend and I are seriously considering a long weekend trip down there in November, but we sure don’t want to go all that way to wade and catch nothing! (Hiring a boat is simply not possible on our limited budgets.) Thanks, and if you haven’t read the article, check it out! Scott Wilkinson Bethesda, Maryland

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… on fishing for False Albacore off the Outer Banks of North Carolina…

Scott, My son and I were at Harker’s Island this past Sunday.  Breezy, cold and sunny.  A weather front had gone through the following day and the Albert "pop-ups" were scattered.  About 17 boats/rods were FFing most of the day in the Cape Lookout area both inside and outside the "hook."  Some of the big dogs in SWFF were there.  Some folks were flipping spinning rods.  We learned of one fish hooked up all day.  I’ve been in the "hook" on days in November when the entire surface was alive with fish.  Some days you get ‘em, some days you don’t.  A boat would GREATLY improve your chances.  If you come, try to plan several days of fishing to give yourself a shot at one day when everything is "right." Our one day was still better than sitting at home!  You can call John Martyn at Sea and Stream in Durham, NC for info on current fishing conditions (919-403-1604).  He also can put you in touch with Bill Harris or one of the other FF guides in the area if you decide to go that way.  John or Bill would probably give you more accurate, last-minute info about on-the-water conditions than the locals at Morehead or Harker’s. Good fishing!  J. Rice

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Trout Fly Fishing » Fly Fishing in Minnesota??

Fly Fishing in Minnesota??

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We’re planning a camping vacation in Minnesota — probably central Minnesota.  What’s the fly fishing potential in this state and where would it be best?  Can anyone help.  Never been in this area before.

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We’re planning a camping vacation in Minnesota — probably central Minnesota.  What’s the fly fishing potential in this state and where would it be best?  Can anyone help.  Never been in this area before.

If you’re willing to fish for sunfish you’re about to enter heaven. If you want trout you’d have to try SE Minnesota or Western Wisconsin.  When you say central Minnesota are you thinking of the St. Cloud area, or Little Falls area, or further north? I can give more details if you’ll limit your region a little more. In general Minnesota is full of many small lakes.  Most of these lakes hold good populations of sunfish,  crappie, some largemouth bass and usually Northern Pike.  I prefer the sunfish because they’re almost always active and put up quite a fight on light tackle (3 – 5 wt.)  The standard tackle for bass is 8 wt.  You need to cast a long ways and you have to be able to pull them out of the weeds.  I’ve never tried Northern on a fly but an 8 wt, sinking line, and a big, flashy fly should work well. John F. Close

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Trout Fly Fishing » Upstate NY 4/1 Trout opening day

Upstate NY 4/1 Trout opening day

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   Well, It’s been a long winter.!! I haven’t been on this newsgroup in a while…. I am seeking Adirondack/ Catskill fly fishermen to discuss and inform each other of productive streams, hatches, productive fly patterns for our various local streams. I fish mostly the Adirondack area, Warren, Essex County’s. When I have to stay local I fish the Kinderhook, Postenkill, etch. I haven’t gone to much south of this in a while.      I would like to hear from anyone who enjoys the fly fishing in these area’s   E-Mail me!

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   Well, It’s been a long winter.!! I haven’t been on this newsgroup in a while…. I am seeking Adirondack/ Catskill fly fishermen to discuss and inform each other of productive streams, hatches, productive fly patterns for our various local streams. I fish mostly the Adirondack area, Warren, Essex County’s. When I have to stay local I fish the Kinderhook, Postenkill, etch. I haven’t gone to much south of this in a while.      I would like to hear from anyone who enjoys the fly fishing in these area’s   E-Mail me!

Yesterday(4/3), I fished the trophy section of the West Canada.  It was ridiculously fast and high, but it was worth it to get out…  Otherwise, people are catching trout in Oriskany Creek and in Sconondoa Creek (both Oneida County). Ned

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