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Hello Mu Young  Lee I’ve included an URL for an article by Ed Ward http://home.att.net/~slowsnap/spey16.htm BTW, I know you use a Don from Sharpes of Aberdeen, but does anyone else out there have recommendations for a reel.  I saved up my pennies for a 10 wt two-hander but now will need to save up some more to purchase a reel.

I use an Orvis ‘Spey’ reel it seems well made, sturdy and holds plenty of backing with both a floating and sinking line. Don’t know if it is available in USA as it is made in England. When I bought it it was

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I managed a nasty face plant on that trip because I stood up, took a step and snagged my fin on the oar. Don’t forget to get those fins off before you stand up. They call me grace. snip- BTW I lost a fin (also borrowed) when the bottom muck pulled – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – it off while I was trying to stand. Use straps.

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Thanks for the input, chaps, much appreciated.  Confirmed much of what I thought. Another Question … Do you drift rivers in pairs? For safety as well as convenience. I’m thinking about car relays, like we do for the raft, i.e drop a vehicle (usually after depositing the raft at put in) at a takeout. I suppose its possible some pontoons would be light enough to carry some way (not that I’ve seen any here yet).   Steve BTW: Ryan, I don’t need no flippers, oars or other props to do a face plant.

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I rented a pontoon boat this summer and floated my favorite river. The Yakima river in central Washington is a "large river" to me (in most places I cannot stand on one bank and cast across to the other…). The water for the most part, and depending on the time of year, is calm. There are a few stretches of heavy ripples, but they only stretch for approximately 50 yards or so. It’s easy enough to bear down and get past them. Prior to floating the river on the pontoon boat, I was always dependant upon a guide, and their boat, to fish this river effectively. Wading access is limited by steep and rocky banks in most areas. Since I’ve floated the river several times with a guide, I’m comfortable enough to know where the good spots are and I’m efficient enough to get to them on a pontoon boat. When I pontoon drifted the river, I tried (mostly unsuccessfully) to fish as I drifted as opposed to drifting from location to location. It’s difficult to successfully consider your position on the river, hold a rod, worry about fly lines and keep the oars pointed in the right direction all at once. Not a pretty site and not a stress free afternoon. My recommendation would be: 1) absolutely try it. 2) don’t wear flippers on the river (too hard to control and definately hard to get out of the boat when you get anchored at a good spot). 3) mainly fish once you get to the proper location on the river. 4) don’t worry about fishing while you’re on the move on the boat. I must say that as I reflect on the times that I’ve caught fish on the river, either with a guide or on the pontoon boat, it’s always been a situation where I could have been standing in a foot or two of water. Now I have to go weigh my options: to buy a new 3wt fly rod and reel this winter, or get a new pontoon boat instead… Ryan

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I understand that its possible to use flippers as well oars to control these craft, thus freeing up the hands for other purposes, but is it feasible to fish on any but the slooooowest moving streams in this manner?

I know its possible, because I’ve seen people doing it.  When I tried it myself, though, I quickly realized that I wasn’t coordinated enough to control the boat and fish at the same time.  Of course, I’ve never been the most graceful person in the world. Kevin

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I have a pontoon boat, and fish rivers and lakes using it. For lake fishing, it is very comfortable to wear flippers to move to boat slowly, hold position, or work slowly over an area. You can move quite quickly over longre distances by using the oars. The boats sit high in the water, and move quite easily. They are responsive and you can fish while using flippers to control the boat. The only down side to the pontoon boats on lakes is that in windy areas like where I live, it sometimes gets too hard to control the boats with flippers. I have used pontoon boats on reasonably fast, waters in the Canadian Rockies. I wear wading boots, and use the oars for controlling direction. I would never wear flippers on a river. Just too dangerous. I do not fish while travelling, but use the boat for access. You drift downstream for a while, stop when you reach good water, and fish. Tim Lysyk

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – G’day all, Here in Aus. we’re starting to see an influx of watercraft such as pontoon boats (at absolutely ludicrous prices i.e. way too much but thats another story).  Along with the influx comes the hype and in particular the claim that they can be used on rivers to "fish while you drift". Now I think controlling the craft while drifting while fishing would be difficult in the extreme on moving water.  In fact I susepect it might be outright dangerous – sure the craft can be used to drift from location to location, but fishing from it at the same time? I understand that its possible to use flippers as well oars to control these craft, thus freeing up the hands for other purposes, but is it feasible to fish on any but the slooooowest moving streams in this manner? Thoughts? experiences? Steve

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G’day all, Here in Aus. we’re starting to see an influx of watercraft such as pontoon boats (at absolutely ludicrous prices i.e. way too much but thats another story).  Along with the influx comes the hype and in particular the claim that they can be used on rivers to "fish while you drift".   Now I think controlling the craft while drifting while fishing would be difficult in the extreme on moving water.  In fact I susepect it might be outright dangerous – sure the craft can be used to drift from location to location, but fishing from it at the same time? I understand that its possible to use flippers as well oars to control these craft, thus freeing up the hands for other purposes, but is it feasible to fish on any but the slooooowest moving streams in this manner? Thoughts? experiences? Steve

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I am planning a trip to Australia in January and would like to go Marlin fishing while there.  I will fly into Sydney and then go to Cairns for scuba diving.  Most of my stay will be at Cairns with a possibility of driving from Cairns to Sydney for my flight out. Is Marlin fishing in January any good? Any suggestions about fishing there? Can you recommend any boats/captains? Do you have any idea of the cost? Thanks in Advance, Chuck Before you buy.

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I am planning a trip to Australia in January and would like to go Marlin fishing while there. I will fly into Sydney and then go to Cairns for scuba diving.  Most of my stay will be at Cairns with a possibility of driving from Cairns to Sydney for my flight out. Is Marlin fishing in January any good?

The Cairns black marlin season winds down in mid-December or so, sorry. Fishing is excellent to the south at Port Stephens (near Sydney) in February and March for smaller marlin up to 500 lbs + but not the grander blacks.  Not sure about January, it may be good in P.S. but it may be a bit early. Can you recommend any boats/captains?

I used Billy Billson on "Viking II" for two trips (several days each trip), released a black marlin around 1,200 lbs and two around 600 lbs (crew estimates).  http://www.viking11.com/   If you write him now he won’t see it until December as they are living out on the reef right now fishing heavy tackle. Would also recommend Carol North at Cairns Reef Charter Services, she can book you on numerous boats in Cairns but I don’t think she’s booking Port Stephens. http://www.ausfish.com/crcs/ Do you have any idea of the cost?

I think Bill is around $2,400 Aus for liveaboard out of Cairns and around $1,800 or so Aus out of Port Stephens.  Multiply by .6 or so to convert to US dollars.  You can get a smaller boat for less (or a larger boat for more . Thanks, Chuck

Here’s a couple of photos of black marlin from trips the past couple of years on "Viking II" … they grow ‘em big over there.  A friend killed one 1,252 lbs last year fishing near us with Peter Wright. Bill http://members.aol.com/bhilton665/oz/   (est 600, 1100 lb blacks) http://members.aol.com/bhilton665/fishing/oz/  (600 lb black) http://members.aol.com/bhilton665/oz/bigblack.htm (1200 lb black)

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Hi, I am interested in trying my hand a fly fishing this Spring, and I have been given a Horrocks Ibbotson Model 1104 bakelite fly reel and a Langley fly rod that is about 8′ long and came in an aluminum tube.  Everything is in real nice shape, and the reel has the original box.  This set looks to be from the 30’s or 40’s(?) and I am wondering as to whether it would be better to try and learn on this vintage equipment, or sell it/trade it and try and get a more modern outfit.  Any suggestions appreciated, especially if any one can tell me what weight line I should equip it with or have any other hints.  Please email Thank you, Jim K Media, PA  

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Jim, Horrocks-Ibbotson rods were very cheap, production rods.  Even ones in good shape aren’t worth much today.  Go ahead and fish it ot your heart’s delight. Pete C

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    My brother is visually impaired with some sight and motor difficulties and he loves to fish.  Is there any way for him to effectively fly fish or use a fly to fish lakes and streams using flys.  I am new to fly fishing and would like to introduce him to the sport.

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   He could definitely fish from a float tube with a companion nearby.  All you have to do is put on a wooly bugger or nymph on a line of suitable sink rate, and kick around slowly.  Jonny even fished with someone who did it while sleeping. You’ll need to help him when he gets a fish in close, though he could learn to net them himself but in releasing them unharmed he could use your help. Have fun, Mark Vinsel – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –    My brother is visually impaired with some sight and motor difficulties and he loves to fish.  Is there any way for him to effectively fly fish or use a fly to fish lakes and streams using flys.  I am new to fly fishing and would like to introduce him to the sport.

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I don’t care if I am crossing a stream or paddling across a lake, I have my line in the water.   I have caught respectable fish while "trolling" from behind my kayak, streamers and boogers and such….fish too! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   He could definitely fish from a float tube with a companion nearby.  All you have to do is put on a wooly bugger or nymph on a line of suitable sink rate, and kick around slowly.  Jonny even fished with someone who did it while sleeping. You’ll need to help him when he gets a fish in close, though he could learn to net them himself but in releasing them unharmed he could use your help. Have fun, Mark Vinsel    My brother is visually impaired with some sight and motor difficulties and he loves to fish.  Is there any way for him to effectively fly fish or use a fly to fish lakes and streams using flys.  I am new to fly fishing and would like to introduce him to the sport.

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I don’t care if I am crossing a stream or paddling across a lake, I have my line in the water.   I have caught respectable fish while "trolling" from behind my kayak, streamers and boogers and such….fish too!

Kinda says something about all our careful casting techniques and presentations and such, doesn’t it?  :-) — Bob Jarvis Mail address hacked to foil spammers!

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 I didn’t know that estrogin was a prerequiste for affirming my masculinity. It’s "estrogen". CM

Hey Ho CM:   DAMN !!! I *hate* it when I do that <VBG.  BTW, does *anyone* on this newsgroup have anything even *remotely* similar to a sense of humor.   Stevie.Pee

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 I didn’t know that estrogin was a prerequiste for affirming my masculinity.  

It’s "estrogen". CM

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  I didn’t know that estrogin was a prerequiste for affirming my masculinity. It’s "estrogen". CM Hey Ho CM:   DAMN !!! I *hate* it when I do that <VBG.  BTW, does *anyone* on this newsgroup have anything even *remotely* similar to a sense of humor. Stevie.Pee

It sure doesn’t seem so Steve! Maybe the ice hasn’t melted all the way where they live?? Keep it wet… — Tight lines and sharp hooks, Capt. Mark Poirier

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The argument runs that women are physically incapable of casting the distances, fighting the fights, and wading the rivers that men do. In a nutshell, supposedly women, because they’re women,  can’t catch the same fish as men.

Howdy, I don’t think men have any advantage physically over women when it comes to fishing. There are not as many women fishing as men, but I know some gals that will out fish half of my male customers. I think it is skill, experience and desire that will separate anglers. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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Maybe if you had something funny to say we would have a sense of humor. L&R

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Steve,   DAMN !!! I *hate* it when I do that <VBG.  BTW, does *anyone* on   this newsgroup have anything even *remotely* similar to a sense of   humor. I’ve been here for a while and it is a rare event.  For a while there, I thought I detected a trend.  A sense of humor was reserved for every third Tuesday of the month if the month had a "z" in it.  However, in second thought, I decided it was a false alarm and there was no trend. Richard  - Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Eval:27Jan96

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Bill,   I don’t think men have any advantage physically over women when it   comes to fishing. There are not as many women fishing as men, but I   know some gals that will out fish half of my male customers. I think   it is skill, experience and desire that will separate anglers. I fish with a female and I out-fish her everytime out.  It’s my boat and she fishes from the back seat . Richard  - Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Eval:27Jan96

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Since when did fishing become a REAL sport anyway.You either sit on your fat ass in a boat or you casually walk a stream,drinking beer,stopping to rest or shit whenever you please.No time requirement, no 300lb linebackers hitting you at 25 mph,no  100mph hockey pucks flying at you.Dont get me wrong I love fishin as much as anyone (and so does my wife),but its no sport,its a relaxing hobby. Good fishin to all!!

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i love to fish with women.  they bring better snacks than beef jerkey and corn nuts.  and when the bass ain’t biting…. fishpro 17

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  Since when did fishing become a REAL sport anyway.  You either sit on   your fat ass in a boat or you casually walk a stream, drinking   beer, stopping to rest or shit whenever you please.  No time   requirement, no 300lb linebackers hitting you at 25 mph, no 100mph   hockey pucks flying at you.  Don’t get me wrong I love fishin as much as   anyone (and so does my wife), but its no sport, it’s a relaxing hobby. So, how long were you in the coma? Richard  - Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Eval:27Jan96

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L,   I think Bass’n Gals is a wonderful group. If men can have fishing   clubs why can’t women?  We have this club so we can all go fishing and   have fun.  Not to compete against men.  Or to say, "Women are better   fisherman than men". If you’re getting something out of it, have at it.  Don’t get suckered into trying to explain your point of view to people who can’t understand what you’re saying. Richard  - Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Eval:27Jan96

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You mean to tell me that we’ve sunken so low in self esteem that we’ve decited that "casting a rod all day" is hard work?  That women can’t fight a 23lb bass?  Maybe some anorexic, chainsmoking 80lb woman couldn’t do it, but any healthy person can fish all day and not form any new muscle tissue.  Give me a break.  So we can cast 5′ further, or maybe 10 becuase we have bigger torsos, so what… if the woman has spent as much time fishing as the man, I’m sure she can eaily keep up and quite possibly exceed a male counterpart.  I think you’re comparing a non-fishing woman to a fishing man.  Which is like saying, "The average Klingon warrior is 5x stronger than the average human." Apples and oranges, Kilingon Warriors to Human Warriors… now there’s a comparison.  I’d be willing to bet that any of the women fishing on the B.A.S.S. trail could outfish most of this newsgroup with broken thumbs.  :’)

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Don’t hold back Tank, tell us what you think. Be careful about your anti-pest tactics. They sound like a PETA commercial on the bad manners of anglers. Good fishing, Matthew – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You mean to tell me that we’ve sunken so low in self esteem that we’ve decited that "casting a rod all day" is hard work?  That women can’t fight a 23lb bass?  Maybe some anorexic, chainsmoking 80lb woman couldn’t do it, but any healthy person can fish all day and not form any new muscle tissue.  Give me a break.  So we can cast 5′ further, or maybe 10 becuase we have bigger torsos, so what… if the woman has spent as much time fishing as the man, I’m sure she can eaily keep up and quite possibly exceed a male counterpart.  I think you’re comparing a non-fishing woman to a fishing man.  Which is like saying, "The average Klingon warrior is 5x stronger than the average human." Apples and oranges, Kilingon Warriors to Human Warriors… now there’s a comparison.  I’d be willing to bet that any of the women fishing on the B.A.S.S. trail could outfish most of this newsgroup with broken thumbs.  :’)

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The argument runs that women are physically incapable of casting the distances, fighting the fights, and wading the rivers that men do. In a nutshell, supposedly women, because they’re women,  can’t catch the same fish as men.

Ever notice that REAL MEN do not find it neccessary to subordinate Women? I guess maybe the’re so secure in their masculinity it’s not important to them. On the other hand, the real WIMPS have to make sure that Women don’t threaten them in any way. Especially in a traditionaly male sport like Fishing. Hmmmm! I didn’t know that Testosterone was a prerequisite for fishing.

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The argument runs that women are physically incapable of casting the distances, fighting the fights, and wading the rivers that men do. In a nutshell, supposedly women, because they’re women,  can’t catch the same fish as men. Ever notice that REAL MEN do not find it neccessary to subordinate Women? I guess maybe the’re so secure in their masculinity it’s not important to them. On the other hand, the real WIMPS have to make sure that Women don’t threaten them in any way. Especially in a traditionaly male sport like Fishing. Hmmmm! I didn’t know that Testosterone was a prerequisite for fishing.

I think you are taking this out of context as I recall the original author was saying that there should not be a separate division for woman because he also disagreed with this notion. Obviously someone is interested in two divisions probably more for the promotional benefit than actual merits.

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The argument runs that women are physically incapable of casting the distances, fighting the fights, and wading the rivers that men do. In a nutshell, supposedly women, because they’re women,  can’t catch the same fish as men. Ever notice that REAL MEN do not find it neccessary to subordinate Women? I guess maybe the’re so secure in their masculinity it’s not important to them. On the other hand, the real WIMPS have to make sure that Women don’t threaten them in any way. Especially in a traditionaly male sport like Fishing. Hmmmm! I didn’t know that Testosterone was a prerequisite for fishing.

Hey Ho:   To answer your question…No I didn’t.  Did you ever notice that REAL WOMEN don’t worry about the "wimps".  Hmmmm!  I didn’t know that estrogin was a prerequiste for affirming my masculinity.  Here’s your sign. Stevie.Pee P.S. "Woman" is *not* a proper noun and thus should not be capitalized.

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it sounds like a bunch of whimps and several women need to get a life they can enjoy without telling everybody how great they think they are just because they are either female stupid or maybe both. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The argument runs that women are physically incapable of casting the distances, fighting the fights, and wading the rivers that men do. In a nutshell, supposedly women, because they’re women,  can’t catch the same fish as men. Ever notice that REAL MEN do not find it neccessary to subordinate Women? I guess maybe the’re so secure in their masculinity it’s not important to them. On the other hand, the real WIMPS have to make sure that Women don’t threaten them in any way. Especially in a traditionaly male sport like Fishing. Hmmmm! I didn’t know that Testosterone was a prerequisite for fishing. Hey Ho:   To answer your question…No I didn’t.  Did you ever notice that REAL WOMEN don’t worry about the "wimps".  Hmmmm!  I didn’t know that estrogin was a prerequiste for affirming my masculinity.  Here’s your sign. Stevie.Pee P.S. "Woman" is *not* a proper noun and thus should not be capitalized.

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My family is taking a week long tour of Colorado the first ten days of July. Fishing is not the objective of the vacation, but I would like to get on a stream or river once or twice. Can anyone offer advice on some ‘can’t -miss’ places to try, and what flies and equpt I should bring? Perhaps there is a guide that could take me for a half day of fishing while the wife and kids go shopping. — Custom Internet Applications John Scherrer 814-756-4682 http://www.ncinter.net/~jds "Up to a point a man’s life is shaped by environment, heredity, and movements and changes in the world about him. Then there comes a time when it lies within his grasp to shape the clay of his life into the sort of thing he wishes to be. Only the weak blame parents, their race, their times, lack of good fortune, or the quirks of fate. Everyone has it within his power to say, This I am today; that I will be tomorrow. -Louis L’Amour (Jubal Sackett)

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*where* in colorado ? TimW – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My family is taking a week long tour of Colorado the first ten days of July. Fishing is not the objective of the vacation, but I would like to get on a stream or river once or twice. Can anyone offer advice on some ‘can’t -miss’ places to try, and what flies and equpt I should bring? Perhaps there is a guide that could take me for a half day of fishing while the wife and kids go shopping. — Custom Internet Applications John Scherrer 814-756-4682 http://www.ncinter.net/~jds "Up to a point a man’s life is shaped by environment, heredity, and movements and changes in the world about him. Then there comes a time when it lies within his grasp to shape the clay of his life into the sort of thing he wishes to be. Only the weak blame parents, their race, their times, lack of good fortune, or the quirks of fate. Everyone has it within his power to say, This I am today; that I will be tomorrow. -Louis L’Amour (Jubal Sackett)

– TimW Halfordian Golfer

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Hi John: My wife, son and I spent 4 days last July at a great, privately owned cabin just outside of Breckenridge, a beautiful tourist town with lots of quaint shops, restaurants, etc….  The cabin sleeps 8-10, has a washer & dryer, a jacuzzi on a second story deck, and is backed up to the Blue River where you’ll find some very catchable Brown Trout. There’s a lot of other spots nearby.  If you’re on the move all week, this is probably not the best place.   But if you’re looking for a great place from which to base your travels, and near a town that will satsify everyone in the family, email me back and I’ll dig up the name of the agents we rented from. Regards, Joe Andras p.s.  There are two fly shops in town.  I’m sure you could get the phone number from the Chamber of Commerce. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My family is taking a week long tour of Colorado the first ten days of July. Fishing is not the objective of the vacation, but I would like to get on a stream or river once or twice. Can anyone offer advice on some ‘can’t -miss’ places to try, and what flies and equpt I should bring? Perhaps there is a guide that could take me for a half day of fishing while the wife and kids go shopping. — Custom Internet Applications John Scherrer 814-756-4682 http://www.ncinter.net/~jds "Up to a point a man’s life is shaped by environment, heredity, and movements and changes in the world about him. Then there comes a time when it lies within his grasp to shape the clay of his life into the sort of thing he wishes to be. Only the weak blame parents, their race, their times, lack of good fortune, or the quirks of fate. Everyone has it within his power to say, This I am today; that I will be tomorrow. -Louis L’Amour (Jubal Sackett)

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Not entirely true.  Maine allows flyfishing, catch and release, is some of it’s waters.  You need to get a law book and check.  It offers some great fall fishing if you do not mind catch and release. Regards……

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Fishing seasons are lame. I’ve never lived in a state where you couldn’t go out and fish ( practicing C/R of course) in the dead of winter if you so desired. In these days and times and with the extensive licsenceing (sp?) fees collected and with ever tightening fisheries management, you’d think I could rip some lip any old time I wanted. Go west Connie. Maine isn’t good enough for you. (of course I’ve never been to Maine, though I almost honeymooned there) you can fish 24/7/365.

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Fishing seasons are lame. I’ve never lived in a state where you couldn’t go out and fish ( practicing C/R of course) in the dead of winter if you so desired. In these days and times and with the extensive licsenceing (sp?) fees collected and with ever tightening fisheries management, you’d think I could rip some lip any old time I wanted. Go west Connie. Maine isn’t good enough for you. (of course I’ve never been to Maine, though I almost honeymooned there) you can fish 24/7/365.

Actually there are several rivers in Me. where you can C&R artificials only for landlocked salmon. Also, in Sept. the striper fishing is often great, and in October & November there are sea run browns that put their sweetwater cousins to shame (and taste fantastic).Not that I want to encourage any MORE people to come up…I’ll be lucky to make it home tonite as it is :-                         jc

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We are going to Maine in October 3 – 8  and I was wondering what kind of fly fishing can be done that time of year if any and what the rules are? We plan to go to Acadia  and to Baxter State Park.   Any thing would be helpful.                           Thanks                                Connie

Connie,         The truth of the matter is that you can fish in Maine after Oct 1st. When you get here check out the infamous 96-97 open water fishing bible, and you’ll notice numerous ponds, lakes and streams open to fishing after Oct 1st. to the 31st., but all are catch and release during that month. All are at least artificial lure only, and some are fly-fishing only. There are a couple of rivers open all year long that are catch and release only such as the Nezinscot River in Turner. One of the most productive rivers open under this regulation will probably be the East Outlet of the Kennebec river starting at Moosehead lake. On the Kennebec from Skowhegan to Augusta there is a two-fish limit on Salmon and trout all year long. Hope you have a great time in Maine. Dave P.S. Watch out for Moose.

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We are going to Maine in October 3 – 8  and I was wondering what kind of fly fishing can be done that time of year if any and what the rules are? We plan to go to Acadia  and to Baxter State Park.   Any thing would be helpful.                            Thanks                                 Connie

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Connie, I hate to be the one to rain on your parade…but the fishing season in Maine closes as of September 30.  You will be relegated to leaf peeping and moose gazing.    Enjoy,    Gerry

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: I have begun to fish there the ;ast few years and would like to know more : about the rivers history, effective patterns and the use of feather wing : salmon flies. : _Atlantic Salmon Flies and Fishing_ by Joseph D. Bates, Jr. (1970, : Stackpole Books) will give you much of this information.  It’s been long : out of print and so it’s hard to find, but there has recently been talk of : it being reissued.  It’s the best source of historical info on featherwings   Hunters Angling Supplies in New Hampshire (?) list Bate’s book in their ‘95 catalogue. Sorry don’t have thier number handy but I seem to recall the book cost aboout $65. Cheers, tim  Troutdale, OR                                    

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I am interested in exchanging information with people that have some experience in salmon fishing on the Miramichi. I have begun to fish there the ;ast few years and would like to know more about the rivers history, effective patterns and the use of feather wing salmon flies. Thanks. George George

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I am interested in exchanging information with people that have some experience in salmon fishing on the Miramichi. I have begun to fish there the ;ast few years and would like to know more about the rivers history, effective patterns and the use of feather wing salmon flies. Thanks. George George

I would be pleased to participate in a discussion of these subjects, since the Miramichi flows "through my backyard". I can see the river from by back door (unfortunately ice-covered at the moment). I will watch this newsgroups for follow-up postings relating to this thread.

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I am interested in exchanging information with people that have some experience in salmon fishing on the Miramichi. I have begun to fish there the ;ast few years and would like to know more about the rivers history, effective patterns and the use of feather wing salmon flies.

_Atlantic Salmon Flies and Fishing_ by Joseph D. Bates, Jr. (1970, Stackpole Books) will give you much of this information.  It’s been long out of print and so it’s hard to find, but there has recently been talk of it being reissued.  It’s the best source of historical info on featherwings by tiers such as Ira Gruber.  There are also a couple of paperback books by Wayne Curtis which have similar information, and these you can find in stores in the Miramichi valley.  The titles of these books escape me at the moment.  If you have not yet done so, visit the Miramichi Salmon Museum in Doaktown; where much of the region’s angling heritage has been preserved. The exhibits of flies may particularly interest you. Woods Hole, MA   USA  

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I would be pleased to participate in a discussion of these subjects, since the Miramichi flows "through my backyard". I can see the river from by back door (unfortunately ice-covered at the moment). I will watch this newsgroups for follow-up postings relating to this thread.

I am interested in fishing late summer of 1995.  Is this a reasonable time and what suggestions for lodging etc.  I am strickly flyfish, catch and release and would love dry fly action.  What are the chances for Sept.?

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I have had limited experience in July and September but have had sucess on both.  The weather was not suitable for dry flies so most fishing was done on a dry line with green machines in size 8 – 12 doubles.  The September trip, just before the close of the season was very good until it rained heavily.  All four members of my party caught fish in good size.  The fished jumped and ran repeatedly. There are many other more experienced people that seem interested in this topic so I will defer to their information.  I would look forward to the trip in either month but expect it to be fishing – dependent upon conditions. George (MMMGH) George

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Jay, At least one or two others have expressed interest in this topic.  I will look forward to reading your opinions on the subjects. One question I would ask is generally speaking, what color combinations have you found most effective over the years? George George

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I’m seriously considering purchasing a Water Otter for use on various Montana and Wyoming waters.  They interest me because I want a craft that is suitable for both still and moving water, although I am not foolish enough (yet) to try something like this on whitewater.  I would love to hear from anyone that has had experience with these craft. Specifically, what are their limitations and are you satisfied with your purchase?   Would you buy one again if you had to do it all over again?   Recommendations on other models are also welcome. – –

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Dale , I too am intrested in water otters. However last year I built a kick boat that has really opened new horizons for me.I usually fish the Yakima which is very similar in size to the Blackfoot. My kick boat is made to fit in my Grand Cherokee. Has an aluminum frame with rowing risers and floats of laminated coated styrofoam. it cost a hundred or so and has generated requests for plans whererer I go.  It can go through about 4" of water and has gone through some swift- but not rapids- water. Some day i’ll write up my plans. Herb

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: Dale , : I too am intrested in water otters. However last year I built a kick boat : that has really opened new horizons for me.I usually fish the Yakima which : is very similar in size to the Blackfoot. My kick boat is made to fit in : my Grand Cherokee. Has an aluminum frame with rowing risers and floats of : laminated coated styrofoam. it cost a hundred or so and has generated : requests for plans whererer I go.  It can go through about 4" of water and : has gone through some swift- but not rapids- water. Some day i’ll write up : my plans. : Herb I too built a kickboat (the WaterSkater, plans available in most fly fishing mags) And I love it.  No problems with inflation, it is stable as sitting on the floor, and Herb’s comment about getting requests for information every time he brings it out sure sound familiar!  If you don’t need the inflatable aspect, the foam kickboat is a real option.  I think the water skater guys now make a finished one if you don’t want to build your own.

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