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Someone was kind enough to inform me that they thought that my site was commercial. I am not selling any rods, and the forum is for others to use. I am sorry if violated the ROFB charter. I will not post again to the group. Clark
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have updated my site designed around collecting, fishing, and repair of bamboo and fiberglass fly rods. I have new articles, stories, photos, and information. The forum is a good source of information about the above topics, and there is a board to get a free appraisal as well as a board to list classic tackle that you have for sale or you wish to buy, which is also free. You can visit the site at http://www.clarksrods.com Hope you enjoy the site. Regards Clark
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I have updated my site designed around collecting, fishing, and repair of bamboo and fiberglass fly rods. I have new articles, stories, photos, and information. The forum is a good source of information about the above topics, and there is a board to get a free appraisal as well as a board to list classic tackle that you have for sale or you wish to buy, which is also free. You can visit the site at http://www.clarksrods.com Hope you enjoy the site. Regards Clark
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And your site is a commercial site, all ads are prohibited according to the r.o.f.b. charter — ~~~~ The RodMaker (aka) The Shadow
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have updated my site designed around collecting, fishing, and repair of bamboo and fiberglass fly rods. I have new articles, stories, photos, and information. The forum is a good source of information about the above topics, and there is a board to get a free appraisal as well as a board to list classic tackle that you have for sale or you wish to buy, which is also free. You can visit the site at http://www.clarksrods.com Hope you enjoy the site. Regards Clark
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Dan’l, you really don’t need a wading staff. Studs are better there. I just go with plain old felts (i don’t have studded wading shoes) and the "linked recovery" wading method. I’ll have a non folding wading staff for whoever wants to use it. You can get away without one, but if (just two examples) you want to fish the narrow chute along the north bank above the Cable Pool – or for that matter, fish the main stem along the Cable Pool, you’re gonna wish you did have a staff. /daytripper (Won’t leave home sans Folstaff)
Wading there and in most places is dependent on flows. Typically flows are down in the Winter. Willi
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<snipped Danl, Weather right now is in the 40’s. http://www.weather.com/weather/cities/us_nm_navajo_dam.html I don’t think you will need a wading staff, but you might want to consider studs or some boot chains. The rocks are a little slippery, but the water is really low. bc. — Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. -Benjamin Franklin
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Dan’l, you really don’t need a wading staff. Studs are better there.
…..good advice snipped….. Bruce, Thanks for the heads up on the clothing. Danl
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Blackcat, Thanks for the update and link. You say the water is really low now. Does the flow (release from the dam) fluctuate a lot during the winter? Danl – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Weather right now is in the 40’s. http://www.weather.com/weather/cities/us_nm_navajo_dam.html I don’t think you will need a wading staff, but you might want to consider studs or some boot chains. The rocks are a little slippery, but the water is really low. bc. — Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. -Benjamin Franklin
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Dan’l, you really don’t need a wading staff. Studs are better there. I just go with plain old felts (i don’t have studded wading shoes) and the "linked recovery" wading method. I’ll have a non folding wading staff for whoever wants to use it.
You can get away without one, but if (just two examples) you want to fish the narrow chute along the north bank above the Cable Pool – or for that matter, fish the main stem along the Cable Pool, you’re gonna wish you did have a staff. /daytripper (Won’t leave home sans Folstaff)
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Dan’l, you really don’t need a wading staff. Studs are better there. I just go with plain old felts (i don’t have studded wading shoes) and the "linked recovery" wading method. I’ll have a non folding wading staff for whoever wants to use it. As for the temps, it can be from 20 to 60. It’s usually really cold in the early am and you find yourself peeling layers as the day warms up, like everywhere. One thing for sure – the water is cold and your feet get cold no matter what. Getting out of the water for a few minutes does the trick though. If you have a waterproof jacket with a hood, bring it. I will also have both breathable and neoprene waders. Fleece pants are needed if you’re wearing something other than neoprene waders. There’s an excellent report from Resolution Guide Service on http://www.ifly4trout.com – updated yesterday. There’s some chance that the lake will be "turning over" and the water murky. If that’s the case, there will be less sight fishing, and maybe less dry activity, and more blind casting nymphs. Pray for clear water. Strong Hooks, bruce h Before you buy.
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In that case, I recommend a cheap and plentiful supply of brandy for the fishing hours.
Can’t! Then what would we do in the non-fishing hours? Danl
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Did you say that a folstaff or equivalent was mandatory or at least highly reccommended for the wading impaired such as myself? BTW, Aaron at Rizzuto’s said we should expect daytime temps in the 30’s, zat right??
In that case, I recommend a cheap and plentiful supply of brandy for the fishing hours. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/
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Bob Skinner and I will be leaving early Fri morning, with about 8 hours driving time we should be there by cocktail hour.
Charlie, I don’t know. With this group of guys, we may have to leave Denver around 2:00 am in order to get there by cocktail hour:) Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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PS When I a was much younger person, I stood shoulder to shoulder with a veterinarian who had both arms, up to the elbows, inside a cow helping to deliver her breeched calf. Hot bovine body fluids were splattering both of us from multiple orifices while we stood and knelt in a well used barn on a hot summer day. Until I read the posts of the last weeks, that experience was my baseline on the disgust-o-meter. Now I have a new baseline. The cow and the vet were doing the best they could under the circumstances. The end justified the means. I won’t accept that argument here.
Damn candy ass! You had a vet? Your "disgust-O-meter" is calibrated differently than mine. How about removal of—–oh, nevermind. Not on a "familly" newsgroup. Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–
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OK, here’s the straight dirt, in order of importance: (really good time stuff snipped) Whatever I can do to make it easier for any of you, I’ll do. Just let me know. bruce h
god, i am envious. wayno
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Whatever I can do to make it easier for any of you, I’ll do. Just let me know.
You could move New Mexico about two or three travel days closer to North Dakota, so that I would be able to come… Kevin, green with envy
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OK, here’s the straight dirt, in order of importance: 1. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale and Hornitos or Herrardura Tequila. Buy in Aztec or Bloomfield or Albuquerque. I have some tequila. Of course you can rely on me for the "cheapest liquor" info.
…other great info and awesome display of preparedness snipped…. Bruce, Thanks for the offer of the room, but I’ve already burned the plastic for a room at Rizzuto’s. I wish I could figure a way to bring a keg of Dortmunder, but another time. Did you say that a folstaff or equivalent was mandatory or at least highly reccommended for the wading impaired such as myself? BTW, Aaron at Rizzuto’s said we should expect daytime temps in the 30’s, zat right?? Danl
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Anyone know what Bruiser drinks, besides pond water of course? <g Dave LaCourse
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All, Actually, Aztec is closer, and cheaper! Bob in El Paso – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <snipped Danl, You can buy beer in Navajo Dam, just not any hard liquor on Sunday. The prices are pretty expensive too. I would pick up something in Farmington. bc. — Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. -Benjamin Franklin
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OK, here’s the straight dirt, in order of importance: 1. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale and Hornitos or Herrardura Tequila. Buy in Aztec or Bloomfield or Albuquerque. I have some tequila. Of course you can rely on me for the "cheapest liquor" info. 2. Steve, I’m ready. We can fish another stream on the way up and drive into Navajo Dam late Friday night. I’m planning on driving back to albuquerque late tuesday after fishing. We can also wait for dan’l and his rental car but that may prevent fishing friday. 3. I’ll make sure everyone has directions to the river. Directions from just about anywhere are on the ifly4trout.com website. 4. Dan’l, maybe you can jump into Bob’s room for the nights you’re there. He’s got one booked at rizuto’s – http://www.rizutos.com – and that way we’ll already have arrangements made for you. Bob, in case you’re wondering, Dan’l was voted world’s nicest person at the western clave. 5. There are flyshops galore at the river, and Rizuto’s is a flyshop also. Abe’s is across the road. Float n Fish, which i’ve designated ROFF’s "official" flyshop because of their friendliness and dry fly prowess, is about 300 yards away from rizutos. They are also psyched to have this group coming to the river, they’ve heard about you guys : 6. Keep tabs on http://www.ifly4trout.com – especially the reports from resolution guide service. All of the "tips of the month" and FAQs are helpful also and reading them in advance will get you to the fish quicker. 7. I’m involved in a remodel and simultaneous move but i’m still fifty flies into my goal of tying at least 200 flies for everyone’s use. And they *are* a little slicker than those i tied for the raffle. I am really psyched for this deal. If we can get warren down here that would just top it off completely, I really think he’d like a few days on such a different river. Whatever I can do to make it easier for any of you, I’ll do. Just let me know. bruce h Before you buy.
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Danl, I’ll be at Rizutto’s from the afternoon of the 7th thru the morning of the 12th. Bob in El Paso – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey Bruiser, et al, What about an update on who, what, when, where, and how much for those of us who have been on the road, are interested in flyfishing, don’t want to wade through the crap that ROFF has apparently been lately and are too lazy to Deja News it to find out. Danl
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Dan’l writes: What about an update on who, what, when, where, and how much for those of us who have been on the road, are interested in flyfishing, don’t want to wade through the crap that ROFF has apparently been lately and are too lazy to Deja News it to find out.
Bob Skinner and I will be leaving early Fri morning, with about 8 hours driving time we should be there by cocktail hour.
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<snipped Danl, You can buy beer in Navajo Dam, just not any hard liquor on Sunday. The prices are pretty expensive too. I would pick up something in Farmington. bc. — Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. -Benjamin Franklin
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If folks want to consider me an asshole
for saying so, that’s fine by me.< Hmmm. Asshole’s a pretty strong word. I prefer to think of you as a Frightened Illini. Or is that Frightning Illini? Or Illinoi*s*ian? (Accent on the "s" of course.) <g
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Chances are, work will shut me down on this one, but God hates a coward so I’m buying airfare as if I was going. Plan on flying into AlbertQQ on Friday and slinking home on Tuesday AM.
I’ll be arriving on Friday morning, at which time Bruiser has pledged (or at least hinted) that he’ll duck out of work, pick me up at the airport, and go fishing. Hope to see you then, Dan’l. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/
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Dan’l writes: What about an update on who, what, when, where, and how much for those of us who have been on the road, are interested in flyfishing, don’t want to wade through the crap that ROFF has apparently been lately and are too lazy to Deja News it to find out.
I’ll be flying into AlbertQ on Sat. afternoon and visiting with friends until Sunday a.m. I’lll rent a truck or car and drive to Rizuto’s. I need directions, btw, Bruiser. Hope to be there about noon time on Sunday, so hope you dudes will leave directions on where to meet you on the river. Looking forward to it. However, I doubt my eyes will survive tying these #22 and 24 hooks! I fly back to Taxachusetts on Wednesday afternoon. Dave L.
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… PS When I a was much younger person, I stood shoulder to shoulder with a veterinarian who had both arms, up to the elbows, inside a cow helping to deliver her breeched calf. Hot bovine body fluids were splattering both of us from multiple orifices while we stood and knelt in a well used barn on a hot summer day. Until I read the posts of the last weeks, that experience was my baseline on the disgust-o-meter. Now I have a new baseline. The cow and the vet were doing the best they could under the circumstances. The end justified the means. I won’t accept that argument here.
Paraphrasing Harry Truman who in response to "Give ‘em hell, Harry", said I’ll tell the truth and they’ll think I’m givin’ ‘em hell. A little bit of word play on a Usenet newsgroup can in no way be compared to the ugliness of institutional bigotry and casual racism. If folks want to consider me an asshole for saying so, that’s fine by me. — Ken Fortenberry
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I’ll be arriving on Friday morning, at which time Bruiser has pledged (or at least hinted) that he’ll duck out of work, pick me up at the airport, and go fishing. Hope to see you then, Dan’l.
Steve, I’m sposta arrive about 2:15PM. I’m gonna rent an infernal combustion engine powered contraption of some sort (SUV). If Bruce can’t make it, you’re welcome to ride up to Navajo Dam with me. How much they charging you to put Simon and Heather in first class with Arlo? Bruce, is Rizzuto’s the place to be? Can I buy beer (not pale yellow belch water) in Navaho Dam or do I need to take care of this in Albertqq? Danl
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Hey Bruiser, et al, What about an update on who, what, when, where, and how much for those of us who have been on the road, are interested in flyfishing, don’t want to wade through the crap that ROFF has apparently been lately and are too lazy to Deja News it to find out. Chances are, work will shut me down on this one, but God hates a coward so I’m buying airfare as if I was going. Plan on flying into AlbertQQ on Friday and slinking home on Tuesday AM. Danl PS When I a was much younger person, I stood shoulder to shoulder with a veterinarian who had both arms, up to the elbows, inside a cow helping to deliver her breeched calf. Hot bovine body fluids were splattering both of us from multiple orifices while we stood and knelt in a well used barn on a hot summer day. Until I read the posts of the last weeks, that experience was my baseline on the disgust-o-meter. Now I have a new baseline. The cow and the vet were doing the best they could under the circumstances. The end justified the means. I won’t accept that argument here.
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Al, I’ve been doing this for the last 3 years. I use a pair of needle-nose pliers and just crimp the barb down. In some cases, it actually cracks off. I do it when I open the lure package and put the lure in my tackle box. I’ve lost a couple of fish I might otherwise have landed but I fish mostly catch-and-release so it’s not a big deal. The only time I don’t do this is with live bait so the bait will stay on the hook. Rumor has it that is why the barb was invented in the first place. Tom Kadlec I was reading that you can flatten the barb down (with forceps) on the waterside to achieve the same effect as a barbless hook. I’m trying to picture this and what they mean by waterside. The book says that if you maintain pressure on the fish you do not need the barb. It is easier to remove from the fish. Al
Tom Kadlec
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<snipped The book says that if you maintain pressure on the fish you do not need the barb. It is easier to remove from the fish. Al
Easier said than done. :) I started de-barbing at the end of last season… just squash it down so it can’t catch on anything, I use pliers. Back to the point… I’ve lost more fish than usual, but I get lazy about keeping the pressure on… gonna have to work on that now, I guess. :) — – goat (Mark S’) www.goatlike.com – art & design
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Other point that are interesting is that if you use over size trebles you may cause unnecessary damage to to the fish, especially loose hooks outside the fish’s mouth, because they can fly around and catch the fish’s eye. You might say why care? I care because there is some opposition to fishing. I have a close relative that at an early age was eager to fish but some how developed an adversion to fishing. It is important to have in your arsenal this knowledge to support this sport. I’m looking for a one step tool that can remove a hook or if i so choose cut the barb off. Ideally it would be like predator pliers with a cutting edge on it. Al
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I was reading that you can flatten the barb down (with forceps) on the waterside to achieve the same effect as a barbless hook. I’m trying to picture this and what they mean by waterside. The book says that if you maintain pressure on the fish you do not need the barb. It is easier to remove from the fish. Al
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Jajwuth writes I was reading that you can flatten the barb down (with forceps) on the waterside to achieve the same effect as a barbless hook. I’m trying to picture this and what they mean by waterside
Just crimp the barb down with pliers or whatever so the barb’s point is against the hook’s bend. I assume by "waterside" they mean you can do it while you’re out fishing, no advance work needed. . It is easier to remove from the fish. Easier to remove from the fisherman too.
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George and I have butted heads on a couple of issues in the past, but he was gracious enough to give up some of his time to let me interview him about his ‘Bastard’ project. Whatever anyone thinks, he sure is passionate about this and believes in his rods. The article is at http://flyfishing.about.com/ Ian Scott
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Enjoyed the article. As a recent Bastard owner, I can attest to the quality of the rod, although I was not getting 75 ft casts. That, however, is a minor quibble. It is a solid value. Mark Faulkner – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – George and I have butted heads on a couple of issues in the past, but he was gracious enough to give up some of his time to let me interview him about his ‘Bastard’ project. Whatever anyone thinks, he sure is passionate about this and believes in his rods. The article is at http://flyfishing.about.com/ Ian Scott
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Enjoyed the article. As a recent Bastard owner, I can attest to the quality of the rod, although I was not getting 75 ft casts. That, however, is a minor quibble. It is a solid value.
Mark, what weight/type line(s) are you using on your new rod?
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Enjoyed the article. As a recent Bastard owner, I can attest to the quality of the rod, although I was not getting 75 ft casts. That, however, is a minor quibble. It is a solid value. Mark, what weight/type line(s) are you using on your new rod?
tripper: i thought i would have to "light line" my 7.5/4wt, but it seemed spot on with a double taper 4. wayno
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Enjoyed the article. As a recent Bastard owner, I can attest to the quality of the rod, although I was not getting 75 ft casts. That, however, is a minor quibble. It is a solid value. Mark, what weight/type line(s) are you using on your new rod? tripper: i thought i would have to "light line" my 7.5/4wt, but it seemed spot on with a double taper 4. wayno
Excellent – and thanks very much for the tip, Wayno! You might have just saved me the cost of springing for a new DT3F, as I already have a fairly fresh DT4F that I can wind onto a vintage Hardy Sunbeam – ought to balance the rod reasonably well. My apologies, btw, for hijacking this thread… /daytripper
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Excellent – and thanks very much for the tip, Wayno! You might have just saved me the cost of springing for a new DT3F, as I already have a fairly fresh DT4F that I can wind onto a vintage Hardy Sunbeam – ought to balance the rod reasonably well. My apologies, btw, for hijacking this thread… /daytripper
trip…. as i mentioned to mark via e-mail, i’ve fished 3,4, & 5 wt lines on the 7.5 aught. the 3 wt is light but does fish ok. the 4 wt is real good and the 5 wt line really loads the rod well. all were wf’s. walt — Ezflyfish.com http://www.ezflyfish.com BRBG http://www.abebooks.com/home/BLUEBOOKS P.O. Box 5112 Banner Elk, NC 28604 (828)963-5001
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Excellent – and thanks very much for the tip, Wayno! You might have just saved me the cost of springing for a new DT3F, as I already have a fairly fresh DT4F that I can wind onto a vintage Hardy Sunbeam – ought to balance the rod reasonably well. trip…. as i mentioned to mark via e-mail, i’ve fished 3,4, & 5 wt lines on the 7.5 aught. the 3 wt is light but does fish ok. the 4 wt is real good and the 5 wt line really loads the rod well. all were wf’s.
Thanks, Walt! I prefer double tapers, and judging from your experience it sounds like a DT4 ought to work just fine. btw: There’s a real story going on behind the scenes that I’ll share with y’all when I return from Maine. The happy ending is a lock. /daytripper (psyched!)
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<< I wasn’t so much scared, though, as hurt. After all I had done for him the damned squirrel never even looked back. Anyone out there have similar stories they’d like to share? I think former President Jimmy Carter had something like that happen while fishing too far from Secret Service agents from providing details. William Buchman
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"No good deed goes unpunished."
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Cute story Joe but that’s not being attacked by a squirrel. Come on down to the Clave and I’ll show you the scars from REALLY being attacked by a squirrel. Story too long to post here. Wayne To fish is human…to release divine. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone out there have similar stories they’d like to share?
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Wayno, swear ta gawd, I never touched ya. Big Al – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cute story Joe but that’s not being attacked by a squirrel. Come on down to the Clave and I’ll show you the scars from REALLY being attacked by a squirrel. Story too long to post here. Wayne To fish is human…to release divine. Anyone out there have similar stories they’d like to share?
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No Al, not Wayno, that’s the OTHER Wayne! Wayne To fish is human…to release divine. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wayno, swear ta gawd, I never touched ya. Big Al Cute story Joe but that’s not being attacked by a squirrel. Come on down to the Clave and I’ll show you the scars from REALLY being attacked by a squirrel. Story too long to post here. Wayne To fish is human…to release divine. Anyone out there have similar stories they’d like to share?
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Cute story Joe but that’s not being attacked by a squirrel. Come on down to the Clave and I’ll show you the scars from REALLY being attacked by a squirrel. Story too long to post here. Wayne
is jimmy c. gonna join us? tell him to bring plenty of peanuts and billy beer. –wataugan walt
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cute story Joe but that’s not being attacked by a squirrel. Come on down to the Clave and I’ll show you the scars from REALLY being attacked by a squirrel. Story too long to post here. Wayne is jimmy c. gonna join us? tell him to bring plenty of peanuts and billy beer. –wataugan walt
That was a rabbit that went after old Jimmy. — Charlie…
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doggone this grouse….let me go find my sm, memory is slippin…. –Wataugan Waldo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Cute story Joe but that’s not being attacked by a squirrel. Come on down to the Clave and I’ll show you the scars from REALLY being attacked by a squirrel. Story too long to post here. Wayne is jimmy c. gonna join us? tell him to bring plenty of peanuts and billy beer. –wataugan walt That was a rabbit that went after old Jimmy. — Charlie…
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Winter is a lousy time for fishing here in New England. there’s something about that slight two-foot film of ice that inhibits the trout and salmon rising to your exquisitely presented dry fly; perhaps that slight tap on the head as they slam into the solid wall of ice. If it’s bad for fishing, though, it’s a great time for contemplating fishing trips of the past. One of my all time favorite days on the water ended without a single fish. It was one of those perfect fall days when the air is dry and crystal clear, not the best weather for catching but perfect for fishing, if you know what I mean. I was supposed to be at work, but the day was too nice and the feeling of freedom I got from playing hooky from work just added to the enjoyment of the day. About three miles from the dock I saw something swimming in the water. Stopping to check it out, I found a gray squirrel. He was almost a mile from land and the water was cold. the poor thing swam up to my boat and I could hear it’s claws scraping on the aluminum side as the near-frozen animal tried desperately to get out of the water. Now I enjoy eating a fish now and then but otherwise consider myself a kindly soul so up picked up my landing net and hoisted the half-frozen rodent out of the water. When I laid it on the seat of my boat it was so cold it just layed there. Being somewhat foolhardy as well as kindly, I took off my coat, an old Vietnam-era Army jacket, built a nest and placed the cold-cold squirrel inside. I continued on to my favorite fishing hole and proceeded to cast for smallmouth bass. The sun was getting warmer and the squirrel in my coat would, once in a while let out a little sneeze but was otherwise silent. After two or three hours of casting, I had totally forgotten about my guest, now comfortably asleep in my coat. I put my rod down and turned to start the motor. As the motor roared to life, I hard a scrambling sound in back of me and turned to see a gray streak come flying from the front seat, onto the middles seat, onto the small of my back and up my back to the top of my head where it dove off into the water and swam the short 10 feet to shore. Now I know I was at least 10 miles from the dock but when I returned a couple of the guys there swore they heard me scream. I wasn’t so much scared, though, as hurt. After all I had done for him the damned squirrel never even looked back. Anyone out there have similar stories they’d like to share?
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Joe Mitko writes:
(good story mostly snipped) As the motor roared to life, I hard a scrambling sound in back of me and turned to see a gray streak come flying from the front seat, onto the middles seat, onto the small of my back and up my back to the top of my head where it dove off into the water and swam the short 10 feet to shore.
Joe: great story, but you missed out on some great tying material. Mark Faulkner
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I fear you would have been in deep doo-doo!!!