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This may be a little off topic but there is a similar technique for salmon. You use a long rod and a single action reel. The reeling in a salmon with such a rig is awesome.  I was thinking of trying the same technique for bass.

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Color makes no difference here as long as the jig (Fly part) is gray with a red head.  :)  We catch a lot of bass on them in the clear lakes here, but we don’t put a bobber on them…. just cast out, let it fall, watch for a line twitch and then set the hook.  If you don’t see a twitch in a few seconds, start reeling it in very slowly twitching the rod tip and pausing to let it fall from time to time. Bassman

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Looks too easy, doesn’t it.(?) I guess the hard part would be finding the fish, and determining the depth. Wonder how much difference color would make? — Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" www.outdoorfrontiers.com www.midtennclassic.org From what I saw, I’ve been set up for the F-N-F for years, I just was doin’ it to catch crappie.  I was sure shocked to see what you guys had been talking about when I saw it in Bassmasters.  I guess I’ll have to give it a try this year and see if anything comes of it.  I know it works for crappie! Bassman Thanks Joe! I think the boat will be just fine… I’ll just have to get some different cool weather apparel, unless the weather hold out like this week has been! I should be set up for the f-n-f after Christmas! — Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" www.outdoorfrontiers.com www.midtennclassic.org Hey Charles,the January issue of Tennessee Sportsman has a great article on Dale Hollow and the float n fly technique.(dont put that boat away yet) Son!

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Looks too easy, doesn’t it.(?) I guess the hard part would be finding the fish, and determining the depth. Wonder how much difference color would make? — Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" www.outdoorfrontiers.com www.midtennclassic.org

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – From what I saw, I’ve been set up for the F-N-F for years, I just was doin’ it to catch crappie.  I was sure shocked to see what you guys had been talking about when I saw it in Bassmasters.  I guess I’ll have to give it a try this year and see if anything comes of it.  I know it works for crappie! Bassman Thanks Joe! I think the boat will be just fine… I’ll just have to get some different cool weather apparel, unless the weather hold out like this week has been! I should be set up for the f-n-f after Christmas! — Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" www.outdoorfrontiers.com www.midtennclassic.org Hey Charles,the January issue of Tennessee Sportsman has a great article on Dale Hollow and the float n fly technique.(dont put that boat away yet) Son!

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Thats good Jerry,because the local guys in the article say the biggest fish are caught in January.Pack your bags! Maybe we need to schedule a mini classic,I know the BassPro is chompin at the bit! Son! here is the link TennesseeSportsmanMag.com

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Thanks Joe! I think the boat will be just fine… I’ll just have to get some different cool weather apparel, unless the weather hold out like this week has been! I should be set up for the f-n-f after Christmas! — Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" www.outdoorfrontiers.com www.midtennclassic.org

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey Charles,the January issue of Tennessee Sportsman has a great article on Dale Hollow and the float n fly technique.(dont put that boat away yet) Son!

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Hey Charles,the January issue of Tennessee Sportsman has a great article on Dale Hollow and the float n fly technique.(dont put that boat away yet) Son!

I was curious about the float n fly setup.  I asked a while back about a rig that simulates fishing a live minnow, and somebody suggested this one. Well, I did an internet search and found this article. http://www.nesportsman.com/articles/article217.shtml I’m sure many of you have already read it, but I found it interesting.  My cousin Jeff is flying in for the holidays for a few days, and he mentioned that he would like to do some fishing while he is here.  I think I’ll do a canoe drift down the colorado, and have set up a rig like this to try. I’ll let you all know if we catch anything.  Probably the weekend after christmas. — Bob La Londe The Security Consultant http://www.diycomponents.com 849 S Ave C Yuma, Az 85364 (928)782-9765 ofc (928)782-7873 fax ROC 103044, C-12 ROC 103047, L-67

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From what I saw, I’ve been set up for the F-N-F for years, I just was doin’ it to catch crappie.  I was sure shocked to see what you guys had been talking about when I saw it in Bassmasters.  I guess I’ll have to give it a try this year and see if anything comes of it.  I know it works for crappie! Bassman

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks Joe! I think the boat will be just fine… I’ll just have to get some different cool weather apparel, unless the weather hold out like this week has been! I should be set up for the f-n-f after Christmas! — Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" www.outdoorfrontiers.com www.midtennclassic.org Hey Charles,the January issue of Tennessee Sportsman has a great article on Dale Hollow and the float n fly technique.(dont put that boat away yet) Son!

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Hey Charles,the January issue of Tennessee Sportsman has a great article on Dale Hollow and the float n fly technique.(dont put that boat away yet) Son!

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Yeah, I just heard that I might be coming that way again in January. — Jerry Barton Be Kind To Your Children, They Get To Pick Your Nursing Home. www.jerrys-world.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey Charles,the January issue of Tennessee Sportsman has a great article on Dale Hollow and the float n fly technique.(dont put that boat away yet) Son!

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I put up the pic on: http://www.frii.com/~goldens/BWO.html I didn’t optimize it at all. If you have a dialup, it will take a while to load (it took me awhile to upload). Willi

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I put up the pic on: http://www.frii.com/~goldens/BWO.html I didn’t optimize it at all. If you have a dialup, it will take a while to load (it took me awhile to upload). Willi

Got ‘em all in about 5 seconds.  (you got the water, I got the link) Very low water, eh?  Interesting how that seems to affect different streams in different ways.  Fished Bronte with the asadi man and the catching sucked but the Credit with the same low water, was full of fish a couple of days earlier. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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  Very low water, eh?  Interesting how that seems to affect different   streams in different ways.  Fished Bronte with the asadi man and the   catching sucked but the Credit with the same low water, was full of   fish a couple of days earlier. All Summer, I’m sure that was the case. Maybe fishing at night would have worked. The temps were so high this Summer, the water felt warm and I was sure there were significant kills. Didn’t fish it all Summer but would periodically go for walks and never saw a fish. The cooler water of Fall brought the bugs and also the fish. Willi

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I put up the pic on: http://www.frii.com/~goldens/BWO.html

Challenging water, Willi.  Those pics. are enough to get the pulse up a bit. Steve

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I knew that the flows were low in Colorado’s streams this year, but I was still surprised by your pictures.  How much lower is the water on your stream than during a normal October?  Nice shots though.  Here in southern California I just heard that starting on Friday approximately 90% of the National Forest land will be put off-limits until we receive *significant* rainfall.  It’s been a tough season all over. Cheers, Bill I put up the pic on: http://www.frii.com/~goldens/BWO.html

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I put up the pic on: http://www.frii.com/~goldens/BWO.html

    my god, that is *low* water (and slow)!  i can’t believe you can lay out line and not spook every fish in the creek.  it’s as if you fish a different world than we do… yfitons wayno

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I put up the pic on:

Good pics Willi – very nice brown.  It’s amazing those fish are in such low slow water – and you’re catching them.  I guess if the river is rich enough, then the trout have no choice but to be there, and feed, no matter how low the water is.

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    I put up the pic on:     http://www.frii.com/~goldens/BWO.html             my god, that is *low* water (and slow)!  i can’t believe you can lay out   line and not spook every fish in the creek. That is the trick. That’s where the cloudy cover helps. In those situations, I can generally get close enough that I’m casting only a few feet of fly line. On sunny days the Dorber line helps. It is a four weight but is slightly thinner than a Cortland three. Although it doesn’t float as well as a Cortland, its thinner profile suits most light line situations better for me. This water has been a good teacher for me.   it’s as if you fish a different   world than we do… It’s a different world than the majority of waters in the Rockies and it’s the reason why I usually have this water to myself. Flows are at about half of normal for this time of year. Because this stretch of river has frequent drawdowns and releases for irrigation needs and for the filling of reservoirs, fluctuations are common. The fish have adapted well to frequent low water conditions. Low water flows for several years that correspond with spawning times result in fewer but bigger fish. When I first started fishing this part of the river, the population was low, but an average fish was close to 20 inches. Until this year, the past few years have had decent flows during spawning times and the population of fish is good with a variety of age classes. The fish average about four inches more than the more popular just a few miles upstream. Willi

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I put up the pic on: Good pics Willi – very nice brown.  It’s amazing those fish are in such low slow water – and you’re catching them.  I guess if the river is rich enough, then the trout have no choice but to be there, and feed, no matter how low the water is.

One of the things that this river has taught me is that many fish, often better fish, prefer to feed in shallow water, sometimes very shallow water, during a hatch or other periods of insect activity. I think that it must make for more efficient feeding. willi

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Email me just with dates. I have a commitment around the first.  But for me it’s drive up the river to the mouth of the Deschuets walk a couple of miles and fish.  There is a park and boat launch there. Send me a phone number where your staying and I’ll call.  We are going to Crater Lake one on those weekends.  BJC – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I’ll be going to Portland,

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Theo: Portland may not be as beautiful as New Jersey, The Garden State (snicker, snicker), but you’ll like it fine. Actually, the above was sarcastic. Oregon is lovely, and in September it probably will either be hot (maybe even up to 100), or wonderful (60-70). You should be able to find steelhead in several local rivers or, if you have time to drive about 4 hrs, you can be on one of the world’s great steelhead streams, the Deschutes. Re-post or email me directly at the end of August to remind me — in the meantime I’ll check the migration status and let you know where the fish are. Your 7-8 wt rod will be perfect. Floating line (DT or WF) and fairly strong leaders. You’ll want to pick up some of the standard Northwest steelhead flies: Freight Train, Streetwalker and Skunks are the classics. Kaufmann’s Streamborne has them online, and I think Hill’s Discount Flies does too. You may want to email Kaufmann’s for advice, too. They’re expensive, but very helpful to travelling anglers. The standard approach for summer steelhead is very systematic: cast quartering downstream, let the line swing across the current until it’s straight downstream, strip in a couple of yards; take a big step downstream, pick up your line, and cast again. You end up covering the whole section of stream that way. The strikes usually come at the very end of the "swing" or during the first "strip." (The steelhead seem to follow the fly across the river, then pick it up when it stops.) There’s some basic info for you. Again, re-post your inquiry or email me when you get closer. You’ll have fun!! — Scoobey (Scott Bellows) "Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum." -Ambrose Bierce – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve never been to Portland, hence never done any flyfishing in that area (did some in New Jersey, last year, very nice).

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My favorite site to check on events around Oregon is http://www.westfly.com/cgi-bin/entryPage?state=OR Other sites include (in no particular order and no recommendation from me) http://www.flyfishingdeschutes.com/ http://www.deschutesoutfitters.com/Reports/index.html http://www.kman.com/ http://numb-butt.bendnet.com/ http://www.flyfishusa.com/index Rakane at gte dot net (remove the NOSPAM)

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If  its summer steelhead you want to fish for then check out the rivers around Tillamook, the Wilson, trask and not to forget the Nestucca, the Nestucca being my favorite river to fish for summer steelhead.  You might even be able to catch large fall chinook in the big Nehalem river.  There are plenty of places to fish around the area.

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The 2nd week of September should still be good weather.  The rains don’t usually start up until October. For steelhead, you might try the Sandy and Salmon rivers.  There’s a flyshop in Welches, OR (I forget the name but they are on the web) you should be able to give them a call or hire them as a guide. Best of luck,      - Ken

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I live in the Netherlands and, like you all, keen on flyfishing. I lurk around this newsgroup frequently and figured this is the place to ask some advice. I’ll be going to Portland, Oregon the second week of September, mostly for work. But,,,, I can squeeze in some time for fishing and, searching the web, found that it might actually be a good place for flyfishing, esp. steelhead. I’ve never been to Portland, hence never done any flyfishing in that area (did some in New Jersey, last year, very nice). So, any advice on spots (can rent a car), charters, gear (I’ve got a Shimano Chameleon traveller fly 9078, 9 feet #7-8, 4pcs. flyrod esp. for trips like this), flies to use, methods to use, you name it, is very much appreciated.

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Indeed we have wonderful weather usually the first part of September…When suggesting visiting the Portland, OR area, I recommend last 2 weeks of August first 2 weeks of September.  A great place to check the local fishing is with Kaufmann’s Streamborne Fly Shop in Tigard, OR (south of Portland a tiny bit) and they are on the web at www.kman.com Padishar Creel – It is over 80 today and clear in the Portland Oregon area, so there!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I live in the Netherlands and, like you all, keen on flyfishing. I lurk around this newsgroup frequently and figured this is the place to ask some advice. I’ll be going to Portland, Oregon the second week of September, mostly for work. But,,,, I can squeeze in some time for fishing and, searching the web, found that it might actually be a good place for flyfishing, esp. steelhead. I’ve never been to Portland, hence never done any flyfishing in that area (did some in New Jersey, last year, very nice). So, any advice on spots (can rent a car), charters, gear (I’ve got a Shimano Chameleon traveller fly 9078, 9 feet #7-8, 4pcs. flyrod esp. for trips like this), flies to use, methods to use, you name it, is very much appreciated. Cheers, Theo

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Hi, I live in the Netherlands and, like you all, keen on flyfishing. I lurk around this newsgroup frequently and figured this is the place to ask some advice. I’ll be going to Portland, Oregon the second week of September, mostly for work. But,,,, I can squeeze in some time for fishing and, searching the web, found that it might actually be a good place for flyfishing, esp. steelhead. I’ve never been to Portland, hence never done any flyfishing in that area (did some in New Jersey, last year, very nice). So, any advice on spots (can rent a car), charters, gear (I’ve got a Shimano Chameleon traveller fly 9078, 9 feet #7-8, 4pcs. flyrod esp. for trips like this), flies to use, methods to use, you name it, is very much appreciated. Cheers, Theo

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A couple of young ladies from the college are taking Mac Browns fly fishing class  and they want to come over an talk about the size of rods.

The instructor probably told them "There’s nothing like holding a nice, stiff rod in your hands."  (Direct quote by the way from an instructor I heard several years ago.) Regards, Jeff

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They will probably want to put article in school newspaper  after Big Dale and I meat with them  and offer sage adventure suggestions.

        after you and big dale "meat" with them, their next stop will undoubtedly be the district attorney’s office.  you know about your miranda rights and my phone number, don’t you?       Was going to kill Old Bob { the burro] today but he must of pooped out during the night. I chased the buzzards away this morning and my  squaw is  hanging parts on trees outside to cure. Chili will be ready for everyone Tuesday night. Indian Joe  Wilmington NC

        my god.  my first meal at the clave is likely to be the last meal of my life.         wayno, serious as a cerebral hemmorrage – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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out during the night. I chased the buzzards away this morning and my squaw is  hanging parts on trees outside to cure. Chili will be ready for everyone Tuesday night.  Indian Joe  Wilmington NC

IJ, looking forward to the chili!  If I see anything along the road on the way down which might compliment the fixin’s I’ll be sure and scrape it up and throw it in the trunk.  Now, no more of those "my rod is bigger’n your rod"  "is not" "is too" "is not" "is too" discussions. After all, size doesn’t matter, its the technique! — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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It was touch and go for quite a while with my plans changing daily, but now all has come to a final resolution and I will be able to attend the "MAY CLAVE". I will miss the BBQ but will be there for the CHILI. Plan to leave Monday morning and arrive in Foscoe early afternoon. I have also finally fully recovered from a bout with the Chernobyl computer virus that wiped out my HD. Really looking forward to meeting, fishing and learning. jim

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 Really looking forward to meeting, fishing and learning. jim

        so, obviously, you have post-clave plans.  but we’re happy to have you, anyway. wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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so, obviously, you have post-clave plans.   wayno

Who could pass up a chance to meet "The rain man" (Ken) or fish with local "Legends" (Walt and Jeff) and learn to "Tie a flat turkey" (Dave La) My other option was hemorrhoid surgery…..it was a tough decision. jim

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Taking ‘em out or putting ‘em in?                 Frank Reid – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My other option was hemorrhoid surgery…..it was a tough decision. jim

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Really looking forward to meeting, fishing and learning. jim    so, obviously, you have post-clave plans.  but we’re happy to have you, anyway.

You beat me to the punchline – it was begging for it, wasn’t it? Regards, Jeff

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So Jim, you’re saying you have to choose between assholes? <bseg Frank Church – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – so, obviously, you have post-clave plans.   wayno Who could pass up a chance to meet "The rain man" (Ken) or fish with local "Legends" (Walt and Jeff) and learn to "Tie a flat turkey" (Dave La) My other option was hemorrhoid surgery…..it was a tough decision. jim

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 Really looking forward to meeting, fishing and learning. jim         so, obviously, you have post-clave plans.  but we’re happy to have you, anyway. wayno

…the first bit of learnin will be trying to find clave central… i’m lookin forward to the stories of the misguided and lost, i.e., those who thought it’d be easy locating mill ridge because it’s across the road from the orvis shop… my bet is most will never even notice the orvis shop.  course, me and tom and waldo know right where to go, and we’ll keep the food warm and the beer chilled…HAHAHA… btw wayno…talked with jim last night…he didn’t sound like he was gonna come up. i told him he and JB could stay at my place for the weekend…you might need to nudge him some more. jeff

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so, obviously, you have post-clave plans.   wayno Who could pass up a chance to meet "The rain man" (Ken) or fish with local "Legends" (Walt and Jeff) and learn to "Tie a flat turkey" (Dave La) My other option was hemorrhoid surgery…..it was a tough decision. jim

hell, jim…you can get that little problem taken care of at the clave, too. just listen for the banjo music… jeff

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btw wayno…talked with jim last night…he didn’t sound like he was gonna come up. i told him he and JB could stay at my place for the weekend…you might need to nudge him some more.

Tell him Forty grew a ponytail and is calling himself "Fort Pamlico"<g. — Charlie…

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btw wayno…talked with jim last night…he didn’t sound like he was gonna come up. i told him he and JB could stay at my place for the weekend…you might need to nudge him some more. Tell him Forty grew a ponytail and is calling himself "Fort Pamlico"<g. — Charlie…

…already told jim that forty claimed he could outfish him and beat him arm wrestling while chugging wild turkey…but your suggestion just might do it… jeff

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btw wayno…talked with jim last night…he didn’t sound like he was gonna come up. i told him he and JB could stay at my place for the weekend…you might need to nudge him some more. Tell him Forty grew a ponytail and is calling himself "Fort Pamlico"<g. — Charlie…

        what a riot.  but, otoh, why don’t *you* tell him that.  i’ll just wait in the car. wayno

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Rained out tennis last night so I read the 600 posts on roff.  Sounds  like we will be discussing microsoft spam  and doctors sticking fingers up your ass  during the evening clave sessions. A couple of young ladies from the college are taking Mac Browns fly fishing class  and they want to come over an talk about the size of rods.  They will probably want to put article in school newspaper  after Big Dale and I meat with them  and offer sage adventure suggestions.        Was going to kill Old Bob { the burro] today but he must of pooped out during the night. I chased the buzzards away this morning and my  squaw is  hanging parts on trees outside to cure. Chili will be ready for everyone Tuesday night.  Indian Joe  Wilmington NC

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This has been a very different Spring, pre-runoff season here in Colorado. My local river is fishing more like it normally does in late Summer than during a typical Spring. They are beginning to draw water for the farmers and runoff hasn’t started. Weather has been warm and the river is VERY low and warm for this time of year. Hatches have started but are limited in variety. BWO’s, heavy on cloudy days and sporadic on sunny ones. Midges pretty consistent. No caddis or stoneflies. Just like late summer. I really enjoy this type of fishing. All day on cloudy days and in the morning and late in the day on sunny ones, the fish move into the heads of the pools and feed. They are surface feeding as well as chasing nymphs, often leaving wakes while feeding in water less than a foot in depth. This is slow, meticulous fishing that suits my unasked for "maturity."  Stalking, crawling, and creeping into casting position without spooking the fish is the first requirement for success. This can frequently take up to ten minutes, resting the fish after each short crawl. Long tapered leaders that can turn over a long light tippet are a help as is a slow rod that will cast a long leader with little or no line beyond the tip. Slow careful approaches that get you close enough for a short cast with very little line on the water are much more effective than longer casts that can line cruising fish. In situations that require longer casts, I really like the new, for me, Cortland Clear Creek line with its long front taper.     Many of these fish are cruising the slack shallow water picking off whatever they find instead of setting up feeding stations like the fish feeding in areas with current. These are the toughest ones. It’s hard to predict where they will feed next and the lack of current give them a long look at your fly. Any line slap near them, sends them scurrying off leaving a wake, often putting the other fish down. The fish feeding in the tongues of current are much easier. The current helps hide imperfect presentations and the fish don’t have the time to scrutinize your fly. The rule of fishing the fish closest to you really applies in this situation. Spooking a fish near you will often results in a ruckus that will put down the other fish or even send them all off to deeper water. Playing a hooked fish without spooking the rest takes some luck and some strategy. I find that steady sideways pressure leading the fish away from the others and toward deeper water immediately after the strike SOMETIMES works. If it doesn’t, you generally have two choices, rest the fish and hope they’ll return to feeding or look for a new pod of fish. I’ve caught some surprisingly large fish during these shallow water feeding sprees. Catching a 20+ inch fish in water this shallow is a kick! Willi

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  Going in week , anyone know what’s happening on the Madison?   TIA   Harry

buncha people, to be sure. — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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  Going in week , anyone know what’s happening on the Madison?   TIA   Harry buncha people, to be sure. — TimW Halfordian Golfer

  Hi Tim   No doubt , but I’m stuck.   Harry

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   Going in week , anyone know what’s happening on the Madison?   TIA   Harry buncha people, to be sure. — TimW Halfordian Golfer   Hi Tim   No doubt , but I’m stuck.   Harry

What are the tibs of the madison ?  I bet some of the small ones are incredible… — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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  Going in week , anyone know what’s happening on the Madison?   TIA   Harry

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  Going in week , anyone know what’s happening on the Madison?   TIA   Harry

A friend down in West tells me there are some salmonflies on the Madison now, and some good fishing in the park as well….It is getting hot…around 90 degrees today…perhaps a caddis in the evening?

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  Going in week , anyone know what’s happening on the Madison?   TIA   Harry

Hi Harry As of last night it’s fishing great. A few golden stones and caddis are what I was using. Hoppers should be happing soon. Enjoy your trip. — Tight Lines ….. Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Catalog,Tips & Tricks, Fishing Reports, & NeverSink at: http://www.btsflyfishing.com

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I totally agree with Ausable 1 (?) about Rick Westerberg – he is one of the best guides I have ever used.  Unfortunately, he only guides out of Westbank Anglers, and therein lies a problem.  My friends and I have guided through Westbank on two occasions, and both times got into disputes with the owners (and a couple of the other guides, too) over excessive charges, for flies, leaders, etc.  If your guide ties on a length of tippet for you (which they are very willing to do) you will most likely find a charge on your bill for a whole spool of tippet.  Likewise flies – the guides typically choose a selection of flies for you to use from the shop, and you get charged for them whether you use them or not.  Its an annoying way they have of doing business, and we have decided we won’t ever book with them again. Too bad, because Rick is the best.  He needs to get out on his own, in my opinion. Don

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I totally agree with Ausable 1 (?) about Rick Westerberg – he is one of the best guides I have ever used.  Unfortunately, he only guides out of Westbank Anglers, and therein lies a problem.  My friends and I have guided through Westbank on two occasions, and both times got into disputes with the owners (and a couple of the other guides, too) over excessive charges, for flies, leaders, etc.  If your guide ties on a length of tippet for you (which they are very willing to do) you will most likely find a charge on your bill for a whole spool of tippet.  Likewise flies – the guides typically choose a selection of flies for you to use from the shop, and you get charged for them whether you use them or not.  Its an annoying way they have of doing business, and we have decided we won’t ever book with them again. Too bad, because Rick is the best.  He needs to get out on his own, in my opinion. DonDon,

        That’s outrages to hear that a fly shop would charge you for tippet used. I can understand being charged for flys used, but not for flys not used. I’ve been a guide for a very long time and have never saw such a practice. We, as guides in the shop that I work for, buy all terminal tackle to use on trips, and the client pays for the flys that they use. I’m sure that a shop that charges for tippet used and flys not used, will not be in business for long, and your favorite guide will be working for someone else.—–T Wigs

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I totally agree with Ausable 1 (?) about Rick Westerberg – he is one of the best guides I have ever used.  Unfortunately, he only guides out of Westbank Anglers, and therein lies a problem.  My friends and I have guided through Westbank on two occasions, and both times got into disputes with the owners (and a couple of the other guides, too) over excessive charges, for flies, leaders, etc.  If your guide ties on a length of tippet for you (which they are very willing to do) you will most likely find a charge on your bill for a whole spool of tippet.  Likewise flies – the guides typically choose a selection of flies for you to use from the shop, and you get charged for them whether you use them or not.  Its an annoying way they have of doing business, and we have decided we won’t ever book with them again. Too bad, because Rick is the best.  He needs to get out on his own, in my opinion. DonDon,         That’s outrages to hear that a fly shop would charge you for tippet used. I can understand being charged for flys used, but not for flys not used. I’ve been a guide for a very long time and have never saw such a practice. We, as guides in the shop that I work for, buy all terminal tackle to use on trips, and the client pays for the flys that they use. I’m sure that a shop that charges for tippet used and flys not used, will not be in business for long, and your favorite guide will be working for someone else.—–T Wigs

Hi T Wigs, I’m guide as well and the outfit I work for does about the same as you discribe.  Any flies not used are returned for a refund unless the client wants to keep them.  Often this is the case and that’s fine.  Regarding tippet:  our clients usually buy what ever tippet spools they want.  If they don’t have them or forget I just use my own. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Some friends and I are looking at going to Jackson Hole next summer for some flyfishing.  Wive will be going as well and will only fish a day or two.  I need suggestions on lodges to stay at and rivers to fish. thanks Hi You might consider staying at Jackson Lake Lodge.  It’s a beautiful place with fishing options in every direction – Yellowstone Park, Snake River, etc. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog) I can certainly second Al’s recommendation on Jackson Lake Lodge.   The Snake is about a 5 minute drive from there.  Bring your money.  Try the buffalo steak.  Don’t pet the moose.   Hey Al – the plumbing still works _great_ there, too.  Thanks for your help last Spring!   Cheers, -Mark Anderson Hi Mark, Glad to help. When you were there did you try the beaver pond in the meadow behind the lodge? — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog)

On where to stay in Jackson…I can tell you DO NOT stay at the Hitching Post Lodge.  My wife and I made reservations there months in advance.  I picked-up their advertisement on the Net.  Our stay there was miserable, plus some stuff came-up missing out of my room (the maid service).  I reported it to the manager, who seemed not to care, but told me she would check into it.  I waited…no response.  I asked the manager about it when I checked out…she said the maid-service didn’t know anything about it.  I had also made additional reservations after a few days in Yellowstone.  After the poor service and theft from my room I cancelled the future reservations.  Guess what?  They charged my Visa card for the cancelled reservation.  I’m disputing that with Visa at this moment.  Be careful where you stay…you are doing the right thing in asking for recommendations…wish I had gotten recommendations before hand.  The Hitching Post Lodge in Jackson, Wyoming is BAD NEWS. Cheers, Snuggs

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Some friends and I are looking at going to Jackson Hole next summer for some flyfishing.  Wive will be going as well and will only fish a day or two.  I need suggestions on lodges to stay at and rivers to fish. thanks Hi You might consider staying at Jackson Lake Lodge.  It’s a beautiful place with fishing options in every direction – Yellowstone Park, Snake River, etc. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog)

I can certainly second Al’s recommendation on Jackson Lake Lodge.  The Snake is about a 5 minute drive from there.  Bring your money.  Try the buffalo steak.  Don’t pet the moose.   Hey Al – the plumbing still works _great_ there, too.  Thanks for your help last Spring!   Cheers, -Mark Anderson

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Some friends and I are looking at going to Jackson Hole next summer for some flyfishing.  Wive will be going as well and will only fish a day or two.  I need suggestions on lodges to stay at and rivers to fish. thanks Hi You might consider staying at Jackson Lake Lodge.  It’s a beautiful place with fishing options in every direction – Yellowstone Park, Snake River, etc. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog) I can certainly second Al’s recommendation on Jackson Lake Lodge.  The Snake is about a 5 minute drive from there.  Bring your money.  Try the buffalo steak.  Don’t pet the moose.   Hey Al – the plumbing still works _great_ there, too.  Thanks for your help last Spring!   Cheers, -Mark Anderson

Hi Mark, Glad to help. When you were there did you try the beaver pond in the meadow behind the lodge? — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog)

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Some friends and I are looking at going to Jackson Hole next summer for some flyfishing.  Wive will be going as well and will only fish a day or two.  I need suggestions on lodges to stay at and rivers to fish. thanks

Hi You might consider staying at Jackson Lake Lodge.  It’s a beautiful place with fishing options in every direction – Yellowstone Park, Snake River, etc. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog)

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Headed to Jackson, As long as you are going to be in the Jackson area be sure to fish the Snake.  My favorite stretch is from Moose to Wilson.  Call West Bank Anglersn and book Rick Westerburg as your guide.  You should also consider driving over the "hill" and fish the South Fork.  I like the run from Palisades to South Fork Lodge. Good luck, AuSable 1

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Some friends and I are looking at going to Jackson Hole next summer for some flyfishing.  Wive will be going as well and will only fish a day or two.  I need suggestions on lodges to stay at and rivers to fish. thanks

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I am looking for the fly fishing computer game software that is out.  I thought it was distributed by Orvis, but a call to the Philly store and the local Orvis retailers has been to no avail. Any iformation would be greatly appreciated.

John – There is one called Winfish 3.0- Fly Fishing.  It is shareware.  I downloaded it off of AOL.       Gene

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I am looking for the fly fishing computer game software that is out.  I thought it was distributed by Orvis, but a call to the Philly store and the local Orvis retailers has been to no avail.  Any iformation would be greatly appreciated.

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Try Jimmy Nix’s Shineabou Shad patterns.  Jimmy developed wool and deerhair versions which are basically gray and silver.  Shad are members of the herring family.  They are the primary forage of the landlocked stripers here in Texas.

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Try Jimmy Nix’s Shineabou Shad patterns.  Jimmy developed wool and deerhair versions which are basically gray and silver.  Shad are members of the herring family.  They are the primary forage of the landlocked stripers here in Texas.

You might also want to try a post to the rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying newsgroup. That is what its there for! Good Luck.

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I’m looking for the recipe for a herring fly to use for stripers in the Merrimack river (MA).  Since these stripers are chasing the herring up the river I assume thats what there interested in, and why I’ve had no luck with white and chartruse and white decivers. I tied up a streamer with large black saddle, and grizzely concidering the herring are dark and silvery, havn’t had a chance to try it yet. Any help is appreciated. Thanx in advance PVM — Love means never having to say excuse me! / Paul V. Moruzzi                                                       | Patient Monitoring Division (PMD)                                     | | Hewlett Packard                           HP Telnet: 1-659-7850       | | 3000 Minuteman Road                           Voice: 1-508-659-7850   | | Andover, Ma.  01810-1099                        Fax: 1-508-685-5372   |

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Classic Sports International will hold several CME CAT.1 approved Medical-Dental-Legal seminars at great fly fishing locations this year including Peace & Plenty Bonefish Lodge,Exuma,Bahamas(May 29-June 2) Five Rivers Lodge, Montana(June 26-30) and King Salmon Lodge,Alaska

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Classic Sports International will hold several CME CAT.1 approved Medical-Dental-Legal seminars at great fly fishing locations this year including Peace & Plenty Bonefish Lodge,Exuma,Bahamas(May 29-June 2) Five Rivers Lodge, Montana(June 26-30) and King Salmon Lodge,Alaska

No Doctors or Attorneys wanted Please do not attempt to book trips with me After 20 years of outfitting I refuse to take Doc’s or Sharks Go to Montana and fish for no talent ,stupid cutthroat or Alaska,another If your looking to bilk us taxpayers for your fishing trips see above post As an American I can honestly say we are proud that you are so concerned about your continuing education that you feel WE should pay for it. Bend over America here come the Doc’s & Sharks

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