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http://taggart.glg.msu.edu/gyro/gbee.htm Free Plans Opps, Documentation

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Strongly advise joining the Popular Rotorcraft Association.  Their magazine keeps you current with whats going on in the autogyro business.  Their website is www.pra.org. Stu Fields

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any DIY websites with info on how to build a gyro copter (newbe)

I see your email at least is in the UK. You’re going to have to deal with the Populr Flying Association (PFA) which has been delegated the authority to certify experimentals there. The CAA takes only a broad interest. Unlike the US and Canada where you can literally put wings on a fishing boat or a parachure wing on a Honda motorbike and register it if you haven’t done a shoddy job building, the PFA wants to see approved designs. Not sure if the Gyrobee and its relatives are blessed by PFA. You might be left with the choices of using a kit the PFA has already approved, or negotiating the forest of PFA approval on your own. (I have never done this — I’m in the US — so I dunno if it’s easy or hard. You certainly CAN do it because quite a few homebuilt designs originate in Britain, but it seems like there are not as many as from other Western nations). Anyway, the PFA is a good place to start with anything experimental-aviation related in (what I assume to be) your area. Somebody there will be able to definitively answer your questions. cheers -=K=- Rule #1: Don’t hit anything big.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – any DIY websites with info on how to build a gyro copter (newbe) I see your email at least is in the UK. You’re going to have to deal with the Populr Flying Association (PFA) which has been delegated the authority to certify experimentals there. The CAA takes only a broad interest. Unlike the US and Canada where you can literally put wings on a fishing boat or a parachure wing on a Honda motorbike and register it if you haven’t done a shoddy job building, the PFA wants to see approved designs. cheers -=K=- Rule #1: Don’t hit anything big.

   Alfuk,    Another good place to search for info is at the "Fly Gyro! forums":    http://pub23.ezboard.com/btheflygyroforums    There is a UK specific forum there, and plenty of gyroheads to answer all of you questions.    "Gyro"Mike

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any DIY websites with info on how to build a gyro copter (newbe)

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Check Raplh Taggart’s Gyrobee first: http://taggart.glg.msu.edu/gyro/gbee.htm Cheers, Alex http://twistairclub.narod.ru – Light Rotorcraft in Russia – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – any DIY websites with info on how to build a gyro copter (newbe)

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ROFF became a sort of sociology experiment for me.

I commend you. What a refreshing and clever idea! Please let us know what hypotheses you were attempting to theorize. Here are a few of my own hypotheses that your little experiment appears to confirm: (1) If you come across as a loser on USENET, people will naturally assume you are that way in real life. Why wouldn’t they? (2) Occam’s Razor applies to USENET. In other words, if the simplest explanation for your behavior is that you are a dishonest a–hole, then that’s how you’ll be perceived despite whatever more complicated explanation you might provide. If clear evidence points to a case of assumed identity, people are going to see it as such regardless of protracted denials. (3) Deception, dishonesty, and remorselessness are far less tolerated on USENET than are poor taste, ill humor, poor grammar, off-topic posting, or lack of knowledge about the subject. Again, I congratulate you on your experiment and I await the report of your findings. It’s quite refreshing to have been the unknowing pawn in not one, but *two* sociology experiments over the last few days. It’s good to know that my time spent on ROFF is not simply leisurely idleness. Unfortunately, statistically speaking, your attempts to "get the group riled up" have gone in vain because out of the hundreds of regular readers of this group, only a very few have even bothered to respond to you–and of those, I can’t think of any right now how have appeared at all to be "riled up" at you. For example, if the use of the F word is any indication of riled-upness (maybe it is, maybe it isn’t) then it would appear that–at least in the threads in which you have participated–you are by far the most riled. Does self-riling pleasure you? –Steve

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I do regret that. My apology was an attempt to salvage that. But, what is done is done, and, boy, is this ever done…

Now you’ve got me confused–don’t worry too much, it happens. You just said that your participation on ROFF was a little sociology experiment (great idea, BTW) and that you couldn’t understand why anyone thought you cared what they said. I’m paraphrasing here, so please correct me if I’m mistaken. But it now appears that you regret your behavior. Why? Or are you still experimenting–you clever dog! Man, you’re gonna get us so confused and riled up that we just won’t know what to expect next. This is a wild ride for a naive Western boy like me, but I sure am excited at the prospects of helping you gather your data. –Steve

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Ahhh, the grudge maven… When was the last time, to the nearest month, that I tried to sell something, feebly or otherwise.

Well, you’ve been feebly trying to sell us that story about how you didn’t post to ROFF on behalf of someone named Lindsey ever since it happened. But that shouldn’t be counted against you as salesmanship because nobody’s buying it. –Steve

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Ahhh, the grudge maven… When was the last time, to the nearest month, that I tried to sell something, feebly or otherwise.

Part of your sociology experiment?  Nice try.  But your message brought more than a couple chuckles, I’m sure.  You can try to salve your pride any number of clever ways.  The fact is, for most of us, this is a means of social interaction, whereby we’ve made many real life friends.  All it requires is a modicum of sincerity and integrity, desire to fly fish, and making the effort to travel.  Even those who haven’t traveled have at least the sincerity and integrity part down.  I can (and have) made transactions with a number of people here that I haven’t met.  Buying a rod from you would be laughable. You wanna try and convince us that other than how you behave around here, in real life you’ve got a… well… real life?  What kind of malcontent loser would defend himself like that?  You think you’re toying with us?  Believe whatever you need to.  In the mean time, I’ll be enjoying camaraderie and friendship with these folks, even if I don’t see them for long periods at a time.  Unplug your skull from your anus and you’d realize it’s worth it. It’s too bad you keep buzzing around like a deer fly, but that’s life in the great outdoors.

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Now, tell me who doesn’t ‘get it’…

You don

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I live in Upstate New York and would like to know what type of fly to use to catch Trout this time of year.Thank you.                                                             D. G. Take Care!

I’ve been getting them on small bucktail streamers #12 4XL     Little brown trout and mickey finn and a small peacock nymph in sizes 12 and 14.  This nymph is just black goose biot tails, peacock hurl body and thorax, two sets of biot legs and starling feather fibers pulled over for a wing case.  For what it’s worth. Good Fishing, Chris Segina

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I live in Upstate New York and would like to know what type of fly to use to catch Trout this time of year.Thank you.                                                             D. G. Take Care!

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Its not a fishing pole case its ROD ARMOR Sleek, Small, custom crafted to size to perfectly match your favorite gear. 30 % lighter than PVC yet way stronger, The armor has a 3% deflection under a 4,000 pound load.You can drive over it with your truck without damaging your rods.  Now equipt with our ISP ( Inflatable Stabilization System ) and optional SMART CHIP (micro chip ) Recovery System Your rods aresafe from the hazards of life  in the armor , Protect your Gear. See it & buy it at www.rod-armor.com

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Its not a fishing pole case its ROD ARMOR Sleek, Small, custom crafted to size to perfectly match your favorite gear. 30 % lighter than PVC yet way stronger, The armor has a 3% deflection under a 4,000 pound load.You can drive over it with your truck without damaging your rods. Now equipt with our ISP ( Inflatable Stabilization System ) and optional SMART CHIP (micro chip ) Recovery System Your rods aresafe from the hazards of life  in the armor , Protect your Gear. See it & buy it at www.rod-armor.com

OK, this seems pretty decent, but why the Smart Chip stuff?  If it has a label and all, why a microchip?

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"David Kirk" wrote Your rods aresafe from the hazards of life  in the armor , Protect your Gear. See it & buy it at www.rod-armor.com

Yes, those are impressive rod tubes. And the irony of the fact that the tube is nicer than any fly rod I own isn’t lost on me either. –Steve

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OK, this seems pretty decent, but why the Smart Chip stuff?  If it has a label and all, why a microchip?

Same reason Hillary and her Social Democrats want V-chips in TV and implanted in our children; THEY WANT TO CONTROL FLY FISHING!!!! — Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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(greedy snivle snipped) BTW David, a one time post of a site announcement of material offered in the commercial vein will not draw much criticism. This description was ALMOST too lengthy to dis-qualify as SPAM.  Just a friendly heads- up to prevent some overzealous individual refering to you as SOME GODDAMN SPAMMING ASSHOLE trying to SPAM a discussion group with UN- SOLICITED ADVERTISING aka. SPAM! — Wayne (sitting next to TEAM SPAM while watching "The Patriot") To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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Its not a fishing pole case its ROD ARMOR Sleek, Small, custom crafted to size to perfectly match your favorite gear. 30 % lighter than PVC yet way stronger, The armor has a 3% deflection under a 4,000 pound load.You can drive over it with your truck without damaging your rods. Now equipt with our ISP (Inflatable Stabilization System) and optional SMART CHIP (micro chip ) Recovery System your rods are safe from the hazards of life  in the armor , Protect your Gear. See it & buy it at www.rod-armor.com

SPAM.  Definitely SPAM. Will it protect me from Canadian Black Bears, too? Tom happy with the aluminum rod tube that doubles as a walking stick and occassional brush beater Before you buy.

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OK, this seems pretty decent, but why the Smart Chip stuff?  If it has a label and all, why a microchip? Same reason Hillary and her Social Democrats want V-chips in TV and implanted in our children; THEY WANT TO CONTROL FLY FISHING!!!!

Well that’s just charming…what’s next with these people?  10-fly books and boxes?  No hook keepers?  Background checks on backpack rods? Maybe if we toss ‘em Gerkoff and those FisherFin-thing people ala S and W, it will hold ‘em off a while. <G R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Wayne To fish is human….To release Divine! Before you buy.

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What are your recommendations for the best magazines on fly fishing/tying available today? — John Rowley I It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man. Jack Handy

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What are your recommendations for the best magazines on fly fishing/tying available today?

Warmwater Fly Fishing has a laid-back attitude that I like.  British mag Fly Fishing and Fly Tying typically has lots of utilitarian info.  Hard to say which is the best.  There’s usually only one or two items that I seem to be interested in in any given issue of magazines that I see. Mu

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Anyone out there keen to start a Newsgroup for discussion on rod building & repairs, lure making, fly tying, etc etc? Please e-mail me if interested. Ron Looi

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Ron;    There are is a Rod Builders News Letter and a Rod Builders Chat group. If you are interested just search for rod builders. Ernie Harrison See Ernie’s Fly-Fishing Stuff:   http://home.pacbell.net/ernie2 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone out there keen to start a Newsgroup for discussion on rod building & repairs, lure making, fly tying, etc etc? Please e-mail me if interested. Ron Looi

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What is the newsletter address? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ron;   There are is a Rod Builders News Letter and a Rod Builders Chat group. If you are interested just search for rod builders. Ernie Harrison See Ernie’s Fly-Fishing Stuff:   http://home.pacbell.net/ernie2 Anyone out there keen to start a Newsgroup for discussion on rod building & repairs, lure making, fly tying, etc etc? Please e-mail me if interested. Ron Looi

There’s a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore like an idiot." – Steven Wright

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Gee, I have searched for rod builders, but seem to find our site at the head of the list.I would be interested in an NG for,about & by rodbuilders. — The RodMaker http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/2865

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ron;    There are is a Rod Builders News Letter and a Rod Builders Chat group. If you are interested just search for rod builders. Ernie Harrison See Ernie’s Fly-Fishing Stuff:   http://home.pacbell.net/ernie2 Anyone out there keen to start a Newsgroup for discussion on rod building & repairs, lure making, fly tying, etc etc? Please e-mail me if interested. Ron Looi

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Preciate that Bob, You may rest assured that I will always be skulking in the shadows of R.O.F.B. — The RodMaker http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/2865

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hey, Rodmaker, hope you don’t find what you are looking for.  Sure would miss your posts here! — Go fishing. And may your fish be as big as your tales! Gee, I have searched for rod builders, but seem to find our site at the head of the list.I would be interested in an NG for,about & by rodbuilders. — The RodMaker http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/2865 Ron;    There are is a Rod Builders News Letter and a Rod Builders Chat group. If you are interested just search for rod builders. Ernie Harrison See Ernie’s Fly-Fishing Stuff:   http://home.pacbell.net/ernie2 Anyone out there keen to start a Newsgroup for discussion on rod building & repairs, lure making, fly tying, etc etc? Please e-mail me if interested. Ron Looi

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Hey, Rodmaker, hope you don’t find what you are looking for.  Sure would miss your posts here! — Go fishing. And may your fish be as big as your tales! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gee, I have searched for rod builders, but seem to find our site at the head of the list.I would be interested in an NG for,about & by rodbuilders. — The RodMaker http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/2865 Ron;    There are is a Rod Builders News Letter and a Rod Builders Chat group. If you are interested just search for rod builders. Ernie Harrison See Ernie’s Fly-Fishing Stuff:   http://home.pacbell.net/ernie2 Anyone out there keen to start a Newsgroup for discussion on rod building & repairs, lure making, fly tying, etc etc? Please e-mail me if interested. Ron Looi

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______ The prettiest Western Dry Fly in all the world.  I don’t know about Eastern opinions on this but  I suppose it would have to be the Light Cahill or Hendrickson?  I love them all, really.  I love dry flies, period. I wish some of you would start submitting your signature fly to our "Flies of the World" web site listed below.  See Mike Connor’s examples.  Don’t any of you eastern boys know how to tie a dry fly for christ sake?  You guys have only one good fly tier their, I think and his name is George Harvey.  I thought he taught fly tying out that way in Pennsylvania and about?  You DO know what a dry fly is in North Carolina now, don’t you boys?  They sure don’t, in Arkansas. ; ) George *twitch —

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I have seen the thread on the San Gabriel River. Where else can you flyfish in the LA area?  Would appreciate equipment needs as well since I am new to the sport.

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If you really want a kick, try King Harbour when the Bonito are in. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have seen the thread on the San Gabriel River. Where else can you flyfish in the LA area?  Would appreciate equipment needs as well since I am new to the sport.

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Here is what you need to fly fish the San Gabriel River, especially the west fork: 1. 3wt. rod 2. 7x tippet 3. elk hair caddis in #18 4. Glock 19 9mm semi auto pistol have a good one… : I have seen the thread on the San Gabriel River. Where else can you : flyfish in the LA area?  Would appreciate equipment needs as well since : I am new to the sport.

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Hi I live in Malaysia (Kuala Lumpur) and I would really like to go somewhere and do some fly fishing in Malaysia. The problem is that I have not been able to find anything about fly fishing here. It seems like this sport has not arrived here yet. Is there anyone out there who can help me on this. I started fly fishing in Sweden, but moved to Malaysia before I really got the hang of it. So I do need to get starting again. Also, is there a shop where I can buy stuff for tying my own flies here? Thanks for any replies /Bengt Thur

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I would love to here your experiences. I fish out of Key West every year and will be down there this year from the week of June 23.  I know it will be a lot of work for you, but reading your journal will get me even more excited about my trip.   Thanks for the offer Bob Price

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Me too! Bill Battles

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I didn’t post yesterday because I was tired of reporting no fishing. In fact, I was tired of not going fishing, the kind of tired you get when you sleep or think too much. Today I took out Nicholas V., who I met in Belize last fall.  I had a one-day cancellation and he came down from NY.  So I slipped on my long underwear (it was 58 degrees when I got up) and said to myself, "I’m going to be miserable all day long and I’m going to love it." The water is very cold from a barrage of cold fronts and even though this should be the best permit fishing of the year, I didn’t expect to see much today.  (Del B. called yesterday and said they didn’t see a fish all day.) The wind was 10-15 out of the northeast and there was a clear blue sky.  We set out for a warm spot (some flats are warmer than others, or at least the fish think so) on the oceanside about 18 miles west of Key West, began fishing a flat on a low incoming tide, poled about 2 miles and saw nothing.  We then ran into the lakes and poled a strip bank looking for ‘cudas, and lo and behold ran across a couple of pairs of permit.  We weren’t prepared to cast to them, but we did hook a decent cuda on a mylar-tube fly that I like.  We decided to keep cuda fishing because Nick just wanted to hook anything and neither of us thought we’d see many permit.  We checked another basin for cudas, then another strip bank where we saw another couple of pairs of permit.  We then ran out to an oceanside flat to look on the high outgoing, saw nothing on one flat, and one tailing, mudding permit of about 12 lbs. on the next.  Nick had a little bit of difficulty seeing him but the permit could see Nick’s bright yellow raincoat just fine, it turns out. We ran down to two more oceanside flats and saw a couple of permit on each one, but they were very spooky.  Finally we ran to a large gulfside flat for the high outgoing and had a couple of good shots at permit, but the water was off color and Nick didn’t pick them up right away. On the way home we stopped and cast at a couple of cobias on rays, and then spent about half-an-hour taking turns practice casting and talking about what bad casters we were before heading home.   Marshall Cutchin

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Is anyone interested in a daily account of what a Florida Keys flats guide experiences?  I have had this idea for quite a while: to publish in the newsgroup what happens on consecutive days of fishing so that readers would see beyond the hype and, perhaps, into the more sublime and humorous aspects of guided trips in the Lower Florida Keys.  This would only work if I posted every day, so it would require some stamina on my part and I would only do it if there were enough interest.   Marshall Cutchin

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Cool. I’d read it.

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I would be very interested. I know it would be alot of work.

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Is anyone interested in a daily account of what a Florida Keys flats guide experiences?  I have had this idea for quite a while: to publish in the newsgroup what happens on consecutive days of fishing so that readers would see beyond the hype and, perhaps, into the more sublime and humorous aspects of guided trips in the Lower Florida Keys.  This would only work if I posted every day, so it would require some stamina on my part and I would only do it if there were enough interest.   Marshall Cutchin

I’ll read it.       Gene

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Is anyone interested in a daily account of what a Florida Keys flats guide experiences?  I have had this idea for quite a while: to publish in the newsgroup what happens on consecutive days of fishing so that readers would see beyond the hype and, perhaps, into the more sublime and humorous aspects of guided trips in the Lower Florida Keys.  This would only work if I posted every day, so it would require some stamina on my part and I would only do it if there were enough interest.   Marshall Cutchin

Marshall, I for one, would certainly be interested! Please post. Jack Wheeler

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Marshall – would very much enjoy reading such reports, particularly because I’ve never had the opportunity to experience those activities myself.  Since I hope to try the Keys for bonefish someday, it would provide insights for future planning.  In my view, no need for lengthy essays – just a brief summary and an observation or two would be fun to read, helpful, and hopefully not so burdensome for you.                                             Mark Faulkner

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Who would turn down real time FF info?  Not me.  I’d even read it!  I might suggest a standardized "Re:" so everyone will know it’s you.  Great idea, and I look forward to seeing your posts. Bill Battles

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Is anyone interested in a daily account of what a Florida Keys flats guide experiences?  I have had this idea for quite a while: to publish in the newsgroup what happens on consecutive days of fishing so that readers would see beyond the hype and, perhaps, into the more sublime and humorous aspects of guided trips in the Lower Florida Keys.  This would only work if I posted every day, so it would require some stamina on my part and I would only do it if there were enough interest. Marshall Cutchin

Me, me!  This would be a lot of fun.  Go for it.

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Marshall, Count me in the please post column "The true angler is always content to fish alone" Brian Di Carlo

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Is anyone interested in a daily account of what a Florida Keys flats guide experiences?  I have had this idea for quite a while: to publish in the newsgroup what happens on consecutive days of fishing so that readers would see beyond the hype and, perhaps, into the more sublime and humorous aspects of guided trips in the Lower Florida Keys.  This would only work if I posted every day, so it would require some stamina on my part and I would only do it if there were enough interest.   Marshall Cutchin

Like many others that post on this newsgroup, I am looking forward to flyfishing in the Keys. I would enjoy reading what it is like from the guide’s perspective even if I see some of myself in the less gifted (from the flyfishing standpoint) clients you guide.

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