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Thinking of Belize next Feb/March primarily for diving. Anyone got any information good/bad
I was there a number of years ago and plan to go back. Inaddition to the usual dive cites, Check out Placentia on the coast. — Dennis Gibbons CN35-207 S/V Dark Lady
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The diving’s great, as there is a barrier reef off the coast (I think I read that it’s the second largest in the world after Australia). We saw intense coral formations, lots of beautiful fish, whale sharks, rays, etc. Where we were in Placencia, there was NO diving off of the beach. typically the dive boats took us out to one of the cayes. Callen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thinking of Belize next Feb/March primarily for diving. Anyone got any information good/bad
Thinking of Belize next Feb/March primarily for diving. Anyone got any information good/bad
There are tons of terrific Web sites on Belize. I believe that Belize has more Web sites than any other country its size in the world. Beisides our own Web edition, I especially like the Belize by Natural Light sites and the AmbergrisCaye.com site. I edit and publish a magazine on Belize — e-mail us if you have questions, and we’ll try to answer them. –Lan Sluder Lan Sluder Editor & Publisher BELIZE FIRST MAGAZINE Free Web edition (600 + pages of ad-free information) at http://www.turq.com/belizefirst/
Hi We went to Belize in February ‘97 and had an amazing time. Stayed in Belize City and did some day trips, then San Pedro for a couple of days. The snorkelling was incredible, so I imagine the diving is even better. Macy’s in Belize City is great place to eat. Scott – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thinking of Belize next Feb/March primarily for diving. Anyone got any information good/bad
Thinking of Belize next Feb/March primarily for diving. Anyone got any information good/bad
Hi Bernie, Belize is great because they have not ruined it yet. It is still pretty untouched. Get a Belize guide book by Moon Publications. Most divers stay out on Ambergris Cay in or near the town of San Pedro. You are in a nice little town on an island of the coast from Belize City. You can also stay out at one of the remote dive lodges on one of the three atolls off the coast past the reef in the Blue Water. On Turneffe Atoll, you can stay at Black Bird Resort, Turneffe Flats Lodge or Turneffe Island Lodge. On Lighthouse Atoll, you can stay at Lighthouse Reef Resort where they have the famous Blue Hole. On Glover’s Atoll, you can stay at Manta Reef Resort. This is one of the most remote palces in Belize. On South Water Cay, you can stay at the Blue Marlin Lodge right of the barrier reef. All these places have web sites now. I go to Belize to fly fish for bonefish, tarpon, permit and snook. I can help you there if you need any. I like Placencia too. www.placencia.com Look at the Belize First site.
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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Trout Fly Fishing » ALbany area please help
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dear All, I am considering a move to albany new york. Aside fromit being incredibly cold for a good part of the year, i know nothing about the outdoor possibilities there. I do like to fish a lot, and did so quite regularly in north carolina mountains while in grad school. can someone tell me please, what the fly fishing is like up in the albany area ( ad I am considerein driving as much as 3-4 hours if need be from the area to fish, that is what i did in nc). any advice, or ideas on books to look at, would be helpful. many many many thanks to al, edwin aguilar Considering that Albany gives you tremendous access to Vermont, Lake Champlain, and the Catskills (about 2 hrs. south), you’ll probably not have enough time to get to it all!
"You not only want to be considered the best at what you do. You want to be the only one who does what you do." Jerry Garcia
can someone tell me please, what the fly fishing is like up in the albany area ( ad I am considerein driving as much as 3-4 hours if need be from the area to fish, that is what i did in nc).
Within that range you have your choice of: — Catskill Mts. (trout) — Adirondack Mts. (trout) — Finger Lakes (bass and some trout) — Lakes Ontario and Champlain (salmon, walleye, lake trout.) — | Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs, | | Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734 |
I live about 1hr south of Albany and there are great fishing opportunities in literally every direction. Some are literally right in your backyard like the upper end of Schoharie Creek, Schenevus Creek (about 40minutes South on I-88) and Charlotte Creek a little further down the road. There are also alot of "Blue Ribbon" streams within comfortable driving distance in the Adirondacks, Vermont and Catskills. Some good reference books I got alot of use from are "Good Fishing in the Catskills" and "Good Fishing in the Adirondacks" not sure of the authors but if your interested just shoot me an e-mail and I’ll be glad to forward the Author and ISBN#’s. Good Fishing C. Segina
The auther of those books is Jim Capposela. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I live about 1hr south of Albany and there are great fishing opportunities in literally every direction. Some are literally right in your backyard like the upper end of Schoharie Creek, Schenevus Creek (about 40minutes South on I-88) and Charlotte Creek a little further down the road. There are also alot of "Blue Ribbon" streams within comfortable driving distance in the Adirondacks, Vermont and Catskills. Some good reference books I got alot of use from are "Good Fishing in the Catskills" and "Good Fishing in the Adirondacks" not sure of the authors but if your interested just shoot me an e-mail and I’ll be glad to forward the Author and ISBN#’s. Good Fishing C. Segina
Dear All, I am considering a move to albany new york. Aside fromit being incredibly cold for a good part of the year, i know nothing about the outdoor possibilities there. I do like to fish a lot, and did so quite regularly in north carolina mountains while in grad school. can someone tell me please, what the fly fishing is like up in the albany area ( ad I am considerein driving as much as 3-4 hours if need be from the area to fish, that is what i did in nc). any advice, or ideas on books to look at, would be helpful. many many many thanks to al, edwin aguilar
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » knots for tippet to leader
A great knot. I use it for building leaders and for joining tippets. Easy to tie, and very strong. I loop it three times on both pieces. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -One knot that you don’t see much of for line-to-line connections is the double or "back-to-back" uni-knot. Has anybody tried this one besides me? Tinca
Not sure I recall uni-knots exactly, but I use what I was taught to call "double-grinners" (british term) which may be the same thing. Bulkier than blood-knot but against steelhead they help me. Easy to tie – after the 600-th time. -rork.
: A great knot. I use it for building leaders and for joining tippets. Easy : to tie, and very strong. I loop it three times on both pieces. : One knot that you don’t see much of for line-to-line connections is the : double or "back-to-back" uni-knot. Has anybody tried this one besides : me? : Tinca
Not sure I recall uni-knots exactly, but I use what I was taught to call "double-grinners" (british term) which may be the same thing. Bulkier than blood-knot but against steelhead they help me. Easy to tie – after the 600-th time.
How bout some instructions for the colonists Lou B
Well give the bleeding unit-knot instructions first :) Really, I was gonna describe it but it is hard to describe knots for me: Double Grinner: wrap the tag end of strand a around b, about 3-5 times (not so important, just gets some twist set-up). Bring the tag end back to the start of the wraps – this makes a loop which you now put the tag end through 3-5 times (smaller lines=more times). You are making the second set of wraps in the same direction and handedness as the first set. That makes one half of the knot, do the same for the other half as for any knot in the fisherman’s/blood-knot family. Pull the two ends tight againt each other. I partially tighted each side first – they "turn inside out" like lotsa other monofilament knots. I think it’s mentioned in "The trout and the fly". - also a colonist. Soon out in paper-back: my decription of the modified Krey’s-improved bimini-twist……
One knot that you don’t see much of for line-to-line connections is the double or "back-to-back" uni-knot. Has anybody tried this one besides me?
This is the knot I always use. I also use the Uni(Duncan Loop) for my terminal connection. I have rarely had any problems with breakage at the terminal connection and the only time I have had a break at the tippet/leader was in breaking off a snag. I can not imagine any weakening with the Uni-knot joining the two pieces of line. With the wraps snugging up it seems to be very secure. Also, it is easy! regards, jw J. Webb (Preferred) | Atlanta Mac User Group jwebb *AT* netdepot *DOT* com |joe_webb *AT* atlmug *DOT* org
nothing to beat the uni knot for any thing – greta knot for night fishingas you can tie it with your eyes closed. One knot that you don’t see much of for line-to-line connections is the double or "back-to-back" uni-knot. Has anybody tried this one besides me?
– Tinca
I’ve done my own tests on several knots, and I really don’t know where this nonsense about the blood knot being stronger than surgeons comes from. None of my tests have ever shown this, and most books I’ve seen confirm this. One knot that you don’t see much of for line-to-line connections is the double or "back-to-back" uni-knot. Has anybody tried this one besides me?
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’ve done my own tests on several knots, and I really don’t know where this nonsense about the blood knot being stronger than surgeons comes from. None of my tests have ever shown this, and most books I’ve seen confirm this. One knot that you don’t see much of for line-to-line connections is the double or "back-to-back" uni-knot. Has anybody tried this one besides me? I’ve done my own tests on several knots, and I really don’t know where this nonsense about the blood knot being stronger than surgeons comes from. None of my tests have ever shown this, and most books I’ve seen confirm this. One knot that you don’t see much of for line-to-line connections is the double or "back-to-back" uni-knot. Has anybody tried this one besides me?
Yeah, I use the uni-knot all the time Bryce
Mark asks: Hello, Does anyone have any suggestions for a good strong relatively easy to tie knot for attaching a tippet to a leader. I know the traditional barrel and double surgens knots. The problem I’ve been having, which is quite irritating, is the knot that attaches the tippet is weaker than the one attaching the fly, so when I hang up the tippet breaks off as well as the fly. When I’m nymph fishing I feel like I spend a great amount of time standing in the creek attaching new tippets. I switched to a Filson knot to attach the fly to the tippet since I found it was stronger than a clinch knot. I hate the idea of switching to a weaker terminal knot just to save having to retie the tippet each time I hang up, which as you know can be lot. Has anynone else had this experience and what is the solution. Thanks, Mark Watson
Mark, I feel there is another issue maybe, buried in here….. that is the *quality* of how one ties a knot…. A poorly tied knot is much weaker than it should be. I feel several of the knots mentioned ought to get you out of your problem, yet from the post …. seems that doesn’t occur….. makes me think there is a "hidden variable"…. that is the quality of the knot itself and not the design of the knot….. For "barrel" or blood knots a couple of things… never tie with more than one or 2 thousands difference in the diameters of the leader end and the tippet… otherwise use the loop or the surgeon’s knot…. make the starter set of windings of the blood knot even and unkinked with the two ends pointing in opposite directions. Wet the total bundle (good ole spit) and smoothly but firmly pull them taut. clip excess ends. In teaching this knot to others I have found many who try to pull the knot taut without wetting it or with the preloops not neat and unkinked…. Pratice at home with light tippet and test with a scale until you achieve about 90 % consistently for several knots… Good luck, Alan Alan E. Hoover to quote one of my favorite authors: "Fly fishing is such great fun, it really ought to be done in bed" John Voelker, aka Robert Traver
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mark asks: Hello, Does anyone have any suggestions for a good strong relatively easy to tie knot for attaching a tippet to a leader. I know the traditional barrel and double surgens knots. The problem I’ve been having, which is quite irritating, is the knot that attaches the tippet is weaker than the one attaching the fly, so when I hang up the tippet breaks off as well as the fly. When I’m nymph fishing I feel like I spend a great amount of time standing in the creek attaching new tippets. I switched to a Filson knot to attach the fly to the tippet since I found it was stronger than a clinch knot. I hate the idea of switching to a weaker terminal knot just to save having to retie the tippet each time I hang up, which as you know can be lot. Has anynone else had this experience and what is the solution. Thanks, Mark Watson
So much good information has come from this post that I hate to even introduce this, but does anyone else other than me use a little dab of Zap-A-Gap on the knots just to make sure? It’s a cyanoacrylate glue much like crazy glue and only takes a few seconds to dry. Maybe it’s a crude remedy but I got tired of losing the fly, tippet, and even more so the fish. — Frank Tosczak
There are several terminal mono knots that are "100% strength" knots (e.g. Trilene knot). I’ve never seen a test of the trilene knot that rated it 100% – but it maybe stronger than either a blood or double surgeon. the best you can get out of a blood knot (6 or more barrels) is around 75%. Surgeon’s is better. The trilene and I believe the double turle are supposed to be full strength.
FWIW I checked my copy of Lefty kreh/ Mark Sosin’s Pratical Knots II ; the improved clinch was reported to test out at no better than 95%, the Trilene was listed as ’stronger’ than an improved clinch. A Palomar knot was said to be near 100%. The double surgeon loop or it’s half brother the double surgeon were both reported to provide near 100%. The only full 100% knots listed were the doubled loops such as the Bimini twist and the snelled hooks beloved of bait fishers. Ralph H
FWIW I checked my copy of Lefty kreh/ Mark Sosin’s Pratical Knots II ; the improved clinch was reported to test out at no better than 95%, the Trilene was listed as ’stronger’ than an improved clinch. A Palomar knot was said to be near 100%. The double surgeon loop or it’s half brother the double surgeon were both reported to provide near 100%.
Ok, so the trilene knot is 95% strength according to your source. My source says full-strength. There is no difference between these claims. Experimental uncertainty would easily cover such a trivial difference. As for the double surgeon’s knot, I really don’t think it is even close to 100%. If it were, is that to say that the "triple surgeon’s" knot is redundant? I can easily be wrong. But the flyfisherman article I recall claimed that the best line-to-line knots are still <90% – including the double surgeons etc. Again, I could easily be wrong. My own experience with all these line-to-line knots confirms that they are weaker than terminal knots. But who am I to argue with Lefty kreh eh? Anyway, I don’t get too worried about all this. I use =8lb test and the only time I ever break my line is when I screw up and do something dumbassed on a fish or when I get snagged. I don’t think that my 14′ 9wt rod is even capable of breaking 8lb test line. By the way, for anyone interested, the virtual flyshop (www.flyshop.com I think) has a nice set of drawings on how to tie any of the knots mentioned in this discussion. cheers, -tgades (a good-old 6-barrel bloodknot aficionado) — Tony Gades. Seattle, WA. USA http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades/Fishing/fish_page.html email: replace the "this_address_is_wrong" with "tgades"
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – the double surgeon should be stronger than the knot to the fly if tied properly. Be sure to wet the knot tighten slowly and DO NOT tighten apply the final tightening pull to the tag ends only to the main line. Tightening the tag ends binds the main line and considerably weakens the knot. Ralph H There are several terminal mono knots that are "100% strength" knots (e.g. Trilene knot). While strong, I don’t think I’ve seen results of tests of any line-to-line knots (including the double surgeon) that can do 100%. cheers, -tgades
I’ve never seen a test of the trilene knot that rated it 100% – but it maybe stronger than either a blood or double surgeon. By the way welcome back, how was your trip to the balmy south. Ralph H
I’ve used the barrel knot for years with a Turl (sp?) Knot for fly connection and it’s always worked well. Is it that you don’t want to tie a barrel knot??? Or that your barrel knot is breaking? Or that you are using a knot to connect the fly that is a stronger knot than the barrel knot?
The basic problem is that the knot the knot I’ve been using to attach the fly (a filson knot) is much stronger than any barrel or double surgeons I’ve been able to tie. Previously I always used a clinch knot for the fly, but I found a stronger knot for the terminal end, so I was hoping to find one for the tippet/leader junction. (I also dislike tying the barrell knot especially in the late evening when fish are rising all around and its hard to see) I could solve my problem by switching back to a weaker knot to attach the fly. From the sound of some of the other posters that sounds like the way to go, but I was hoping that someone would have a better solution. Thanks again, Mark Watson
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve used the barrel knot for years with a Turl (sp?) Knot for fly connection and it’s always worked well. Is it that you don’t want to tie a barrel knot??? Or that your barrel knot is breaking? Or that you are using a knot to connect the fly that is a stronger knot than the barrel knot? Barry Hello, Does anyone have any suggestions for a good strong relatively easy to tie knot for attaching a tippet to a leader. I know the traditional barrel and double surgens knots. The problem I’ve been having, which is quite irritating, is the knot that attaches the tippet is weaker than the one attaching the fly, so when I hang up the tippet breaks off as well as the fly. When I’m nymph fishing I feel like I spend a great amount of time standing in the creek attaching new tippets. I switched to a Filson knot to attach the fly to the tippet since I found it was stronger than a clinch knot. I hate the idea of switching to a weaker terminal knot just to save having to retie the tippet each time I hang up, which as you know can be lot. Has anynone else had this experience and what is the solution. Thanks, Mark Watson
I use a loop to loop connection, with a loop knot the name of which I can’t recall, but it’s in lefty kreh and mark sosin’s knot book. I use a clinch knot for the fly connection, and that almost always breaks first. Even if it doesn’t, the knot that breaks is the tippet side of the loop to loop, so I just make a new tippet, and attach it, with no overall leader length loss. Works great, you should try it. — Andrew Brunette
There are several terminal mono knots that are "100% strength" knots (e.g. Trilene knot). While strong, I don’t think I’ve seen results of tests of any line-to-line knots (including the double surgeon) that can do 100%. cheers, -tgades I’ve never seen a test of the trilene knot that rated it 100% – but it maybe stronger than either a blood or double surgeon.
the best you can get out of a blood knot (6 or more barrels) is around 75%. Surgeon’s is better. The trilene and I believe the double turle are supposed to be full strength. By the way welcome back, how was your trip to the balmy south.
The Antarctic field season (nov,dec,jan) was very good and productive, though the weather was poor this year and we spent a total of 30+days waiting for flights in the field. The fishing in NZ (24Jan-5Mar) was excellent once again. After 4 years in a row fishing for a month or more in NZ, it seems more and more fun. I’ll likely be heading back once again next year. I’ll let you know when I scan in a few pics from the 98 NZ season. I caught some tremendous browns this year. I still have a few pictures from last year: http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades/Fishing/NZ/NZ_97.html Since I’ve been home I’ve hooked 2 steelhead, landed 1. I scanned a picture of this beautiful native hen. It is at the top of my fish page: http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades/Fishing/fish_page.html cheers, -tgades — Tony Gades. Seattle, WA. USA http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades/Fishing/fish_page.html email: replace the "this_address_is_wrong" with "tgades"
the double surgeon should be stronger than the knot to the fly if tied properly. Be sure to wet the knot tighten slowly and DO NOT tighten apply the final tightening pull to the tag ends only to the main line. Tightening the tag ends binds the main line and considerably weakens the knot. Ralph H
There are several terminal mono knots that are "100% strength" knots (e.g. Trilene knot). While strong, I don’t think I’ve seen results of tests of any line-to-line knots (including the double surgeon) that can do 100%. cheers, -tgades — Tony Gades. Seattle, WA. USA http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades/Fishing/fish_page.html email: replace the "this_address_is_wrong" with "tgades"
Hello, Does anyone have any suggestions for a good strong relatively easy to tie knot for attaching a tippet to a leader. I know the traditional barrel and double surgens knots. The problem I’ve been having, which is quite irritating, is the knot that attaches the tippet is weaker than the one attaching the fly, so when I hang up the tippet breaks off
the double surgeon should be stronger than the knot to the fly if tied properly. Be sure to wet the knot tighten slowly and DO NOT tighten apply the final tightening pull to the tag ends only to the main line. Tightening the tag ends binds the main line and considerably weakens the knot. Ralph H
Hello, Does anyone have any suggestions for a good strong relatively easy to tie knot for attaching a tippet to a leader. I know the traditional barrel and double surgens knots. The problem I’ve been having, which is quite irritating, is the knot that attaches the tippet is weaker than the one attaching the fly, so when I hang up the tippet breaks off as well as the fly. When I’m nymph fishing I feel like I spend a great amount of time standing in the creek attaching new tippets. I switched to a Filson knot to attach the fly to the tippet since I found it was stronger than a clinch knot. I hate the idea of switching to a weaker terminal knot just to save having to retie the tippet each time I hang up, which as you know can be lot. Has anynone else had this experience and what is the solution. Thanks, Mark Watson
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -knot for attaching a tippet to a leader. I know the traditional barrel and double surgens knots. The problem I’ve been having, which is quite irritating, is the knot that attaches the tippet is weaker than the one attaching the fly, so when I hang up the tippet breaks off as well as the fly. When I’m nymph fishing I feel like I spend a great amount of time standing in the creek attaching new tippets. I switched to a Filson knot to attach the fly to the tippet since I found it was stronger than a clinch knot. I hate the idea of switching to a weaker terminal knot just to save having to retie the tippet each time I hang up, which as you know can be lot. Has anynone else had this experience and what is the solution. Thanks, Mark Watson
Hi Mark. Depending on how much time I have, I’ll use the Blood Knot or the Double Surgeon’s Knot. The Blood Knot takes longer to tie, but is stronger, so I use it when I’m rigging before I go to the river. If I’m on the stream and I get a wind knot that I can’t untie very close to the tippet/leader knot, they I’ll cut off my existing tippet and use a Double Surgeon’s Knot to put a new one on. That’s just what I use. Bryce
I’ve used the barrel knot for years with a Turl (sp?) Knot for fly connection and it’s always worked well. Is it that you don’t want to tie a barrel knot??? Or that your barrel knot is breaking? Or that you are using a knot to connect the fly that is a stronger knot than the barrel knot? Barry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, Does anyone have any suggestions for a good strong relatively easy to tie knot for attaching a tippet to a leader. I know the traditional barrel and double surgens knots. The problem I’ve been having, which is quite irritating, is the knot that attaches the tippet is weaker than the one attaching the fly, so when I hang up the tippet breaks off as well as the fly. When I’m nymph fishing I feel like I spend a great amount of time standing in the creek attaching new tippets. I switched to a Filson knot to attach the fly to the tippet since I found it was stronger than a clinch knot. I hate the idea of switching to a weaker terminal knot just to save having to retie the tippet each time I hang up, which as you know can be lot. Has anynone else had this experience and what is the solution. Thanks, Mark Watson
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Hi, I’m fairly new to the Charlotte, NC area and would like to hear from anyone who has fished any area streams/rivers. I have looked on several FF pages for locations, but I would like to hear from someone with first-hand experience. I won’t mind a bit of a drive(it looks like I have no choice anyway!). Thanks in advance.
Matt, You can take US77 north to Elkin on the tale Hwy 21 to Stone Mountain State park "about 90 min.". There they have a delayed harvest stream that is well stocked. They also have a stream called Bullhead that you can pay $4 to fish a section. Only one person can fish a section. It is catch and release with barbless hooks only. The fish in Bullhead are hard to catch but the are rather large. Another 15 miles North is the New River. It has Musky, Smallmouth and Rock "Redeye" Bass. It offers several places where you can wade however you may want to wait until it get’s warmer unless you are going after Musky. The New River runs in both NC and VA but NC has an agreement with VA where NC license are valid in parts of VA. I hope this helps. Good Fishing, Shawn
Hi, I’m fairly new to the Charlotte, NC area and would like to hear from anyone who has fished any area streams/rivers. I have looked on several FF pages for locations, but I would like to hear from someone with first-hand experience. I won’t mind a bit of a drive(it looks like I have no choice anyway!). Thanks in advance.
This is a test, but i have to say that the best fishing is in the north of Sweden
Hi, I’m fairly new to the Charlotte, NC area and would like to hear from anyone who has fished any area streams/rivers. I have looked on several FF pages for locations, but I would like to hear from someone with first-hand experience. I won’t mind a bit of a drive(it looks like I have no choice anyway!). Thanks in advance.
Hi, I’m fairly new to the Charlotte, NC area and would like to hear from anyone who has fished any area streams/rivers. I have looked on several FF pages for locations, but I would like to hear from someone with first-hand experience. I won’t mind a bit of a drive(it looks like I have no choice anyway!). Thanks in advance.
Matt: Depending upon the type of fishing you want to do, you have a boatload of choices! If you are into warm water fishing for largemouth bass and various panfish species, Lake Wylie south of Charlotte, and Lake Norman (600 miles of shoreline for the entire impoundment) north of town are excellent choices, within 30 minute drive. For smallmouth, I am unaware of any rivers nearby; you may have to drive north, up here to Virginia. Other rivers for warm water species include the Catawba (down towards Gastonia), and various tributaries. The Blue Ridge Parkway/Appalachian mountains are only about a 90 minute drive from town, and offer a lot of small streams, many carrying stocked or native/gone wild trout. One place I went while living in NC was Julian Price Park, right on the Parkway. Boone Fork flows through, and has some good holes down the Boone Fork Trail, about 1 mile from the picnic area. Further afield, the area around Asheville (2-3 hour drive) and Cullowhee/Cherokee reservation has a number of great trout waters. Much more information is available in a small book called "Flyfishing in the Southern Appalachia", which is available at Barnes and Noble bookstore (at lwast I have seen it there). Insofar as quality of fishing, I have heard great things about Lake Norman bass. Since it is a relatively recently flooded impoundment, the cover is superb, and you can nose around for years and not fish it all. The trout in the mountains are also great, but if you expect monsters, do not be disappointed. This is definitely small stream fishing. Your roll cast will get quite a workout. Hope some of this is helpful. Dan Johnson
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"In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future. The learned usually find themselves equipped to live in a world that no longer exists." Eric Hoffer (1902-83), U.S. philosopher.
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : "In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future. : The learned usually find themselves equipped to live in a world that : no longer exists." : Eric Hoffer (1902-83), U.S. philosopher. So…am I supposed to learn to ffish without an indicator, or learn to fish with one? JonCook. PS: Ok, I couldn’t post without adding an IMO, which should just be taken as that, no more. When I started, I used 1/2 foam square and I think it really taught me how to manage a long leader in the currents. Now, I don’t usually use an indicator, though in poor afternoon light I’ll add 1/4 square. The BIG IMO, though, is that using those big cork things to *float* a heavily weighted nymph at a precise depth is ridiculous. Yeah, it catches fish, but I can’t bring myself to do it…
Reminds me of a famous story — I think it has been attributed to George Bernard Shaw. Anyway, the story goes that he approached a lady at a dinner party and asked if she’d go to bed with him for $2,000. She thought a minute and said, "Well, Maybe." Then he said, "how about for $20." She reacted violently saying, "What do you think I am, a common whore?" His response, "we’ve already established what you are — now we’re merely haggling about price." I may have the story screwed up but I hope you get the drift. Incidentally, I often fish with indicators with no apologies. I wonder sometimes if all the discussion about defining flyfishing is really that or the usual search for something — anything — to make one person feel superior to another. I enjoy all forms of flyfishing about equally and fish with others who seem to get an equal kick out of fishing with lures and bait. Frankly, I try not to believe I’m superior to anyone — even though with my physical beauty and obvious great intelligence, restraining such feelings is sometimes difficult. Regards, Dick Hubbard
<snip Reminds me of a famous story — I think it has been attributed to George Bernard Shaw. Anyway, the story goes that he approached a lady at a dinner party and asked if she’d go to bed with him for $2,000. She thought a minute and said, "Well, Maybe." Then he said, "how about for $20." She reacted violently saying, "What do you think I am, a common whore?" His response, "we’ve already established what you are — now we’re merely haggling about price."
<snip I heard it was Winston Churchill. Charlie…
Incidentally, I often fish with indicators with no apologies. I wonder sometimes if all the discussion about defining flyfishing is really that or the usual search for something — anything — to make one person feel superior to another. I enjoy all forms of flyfishing about equally and fish with others who seem to get an equal kick out of fishing with lures and bait.
I tend to agree with your statement Dick, as I’m on the wrong side of 60 now and have had enough "hobbies" to see this pattern of "I’m better than you" syndrome. Many years ago when I first got into civil aviation as a fledgling pilot the conventional gear (ie: tailwheel) fixed gear aircraft were dominant. Years later when retract gear, constant speed props were common, I noticed this attitude: "you’re not a real pilot unless you can fly a taildragger", or a variant, "you’re not a real pilot unless you fly retractable gear aircraft, etc. etc. One year I saw John Denver at an airshow wearing a T-shirt that said "if you ain’t a pilot, you ain’t shit!" In all other endeavors that require a certain amount of skill, it seems people tend toward taking an "attitude" of superiority if someone else does it differently. I have learned to live with that, and like the recent discussions on this NG, I just don’t let it bother me if someone else espouses a position that says I’m not a "real flyfisherman" just because we differ in how we go about it. I see those folks as trying to justify what THEY are doing, and it must feed their ego to look down on others that don’t do it their way. BTW, "real" flyfishermen fish for smallmouth bass! 
Frankly, I try not to believe I’m superior to anyone — even though with my physical beauty and obvious great intelligence, restraining such feelings is sometimes difficult.
I know what you mean there too, damn, it’s hard to be humble when you’re as good as you and I! 
Regards, Frank Church Elkhart, IN —
[snip] " just because we differ in how we go about it. I see those folks as trying to justify what THEY are doing, and it must feed their ego to look down on others that don’t do it their way. BTW, "real" flyfishermen fish for smallmouth bass!
your not a real flyfisherman unless you bite their heads off! Mike – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Frankly, I try not to believe I’m superior to anyone — even though with my physical beauty and obvious great intelligence, restraining such feelings is sometimes difficult. I know what you mean there too, damn, it’s hard to be humble when you’re as good as you and I! Regards, Frank Church Elkhart, IN —
your not a real flyfisherman unless you bite their heads off! Mike
Of the fish or of the flies?
your not a real flyfisherman unless you bite their heads off! Mike Of the fish or of the flies?
The fish of course. You eat the whole fly! Sheesh Mike
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fish » Source of Repair for Lamson Reel
Hi, Sage now owns Lamson. Give them a call at 1-800-533-3004 and ask for Lamson Repairs and they will take care of you. Tight Lines, Jim, NV Jim’s Outdoor Sports, Elko, NV
Sage took over Lamson and your reel is warranteed for life by sage. Contact them. cheers gp
: I have a Lamson reel that has never been used. When loading fly line on : the unit that creates the clicking sound (pahl?) fell out. It is simple : affair with a small screw that holds a triangular piece of metal that : clicks as the clogs turn. What appears to be the screw came out and I : cannoth get it to hold. The drag still works so the reel still functions : but I would like to produce sound as it was made. : Lamson has gone out of business. Does anyone have any idea where I might : get this repaired? — gp
I have a Lamson reel that has never been used. When loading fly line on the unit that creates the clicking sound (pahl?) fell out. It is simple affair with a small screw that holds a triangular piece of metal that clicks as the clogs turn. What appears to be the screw came out and I cannoth get it to hold. The drag still works so the reel still functions but I would like to produce sound as it was made. Lamson has gone out of business. Does anyone have any idea where I might get this repaired?
Actually, the good name Lamson is alive and well but now a part of through them, a suitable dealer/repair facility referral seems very likely. Regards, Rx F Fish "For Your Good Health, Fly Fish" URL=http://www.xnet.com/~rxffish
I have a Lamson reel that has never been used. When loading fly line on the unit that creates the clicking sound (pahl?) fell out. It is simple affair with a small screw that holds a triangular piece of metal that clicks as the clogs turn. What appears to be the screw came out and I cannoth get it to hold. The drag still works so the reel still functions but I would like to produce sound as it was made. Lamson has gone out of business. Does anyone have any idea where I might get this repaired?
I have a Lamson reel that has never been used. When loading fly line on the unit that creates the clicking sound (pahl?) fell out. It is simple affair with a small screw that holds a triangular piece of metal that clicks as the clogs turn. What appears to be the screw came out and I cannoth get it to hold. The drag still works so the reel still functions but I would like to produce sound as it was made. Lamson has gone out of business. Does anyone have any idea where I might get this repaired?
Sage now owns Lamson, and are still producing the LP series of reels. David B.
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Line » Performance Riding… Slit and Rocks
Greetings, So… we’re back from a great MTB camping trip out to a place called Capp’s Crossing. Its about 14 Miles south of Hiway 50 just past Placerville in the Sierra National Forest in California. Nice small camp site next to a running stream. The camp site was well maintained and there was lots to do (Rock Climbing, Hiking, Swimming, Fly Fishing, MTBing, Strategic Naping, etc.) The trails in the area are generally usage maintained logging and 4WD road. Some of the road haven’t been maintained in years, are over grown and make for a wild, rather technical run which includes running over downed logs of various sizes, deep slit tracks, erosion berms, rock gardens and a couple of drop-offs. Riding these trails was a blast but it was the first time I had encountered deep, deep slit. This stuff was fine as talc and about 3 inches deep. Just running straight through it kicked up clouds of dust that coated everthing. Riding in this stuff was a challenge. It offers substancial rolling resistance such that rolling into it at speed would catch you off guard and almost throw you. Anyway, riding through this stuff felt like my backend was loose. It would feel like it was sliding around, sideways. My rear WTB ‘raptors did great on the climbs but my guess is that the tread pattern is optimized for climbing (duh!) and not for holding laterally (therefore, you slide). Cornering was tough too. I think I started getting better traction on corners when I would lean the bike way over thereby engaging the outside edging knobs. The big trick was to stay in front so you could breath. Otherwise you were riding in a dust storm. So you would exit the slit bed and run smack into a rock garden. Sometimes uphill, sometimes down. Boulders ranged in size from marbles to softball. To add to the challenge, the garden was rutted where other 4WD have driven. That made staying on the line you chose very hard – but fun. You had to change techniques quickly and keep up the speed lest you lose momentum, stop and be cursed by you riding buddy behind you (who can’t see you through the dust). Now with this combo of terrain I tried to keep my front pressure up at around 40 and my rear at 35 or so. Correct my if I’m wrong but for the slit you want lower TP for more tire surface area and for the rocks you want a higher TP to prevent snake-bites. Snake-bites aside, is it generally better to run a lower TP? 35 and 30? Lower? Too low? Also, anyone have a experience with realy soft slit? Tips on bike handling? ( While you at it any tips on bike handling on fire road gravel – you know, sharp, crushed rock over hard pan. I alway get the feeling my tires are breaking traction cause the rock just rolls.) Thanx, _Marc Marc E. Strohwig Opinion? Mine, mine, mine!! System Architect SEI SIG Compuserve: 70613.502 FAX: (510) 645-3096
over downed logs of various sizes, deep slit tracks, erosion berms, … encountered deep, deep slit. This stuff was fine as talc and about 3 … So you would exit the slit bed and run smack into a rock garden. … anyone have a experience with realy soft slit? Tips on bike handling?
SILT. SILT. SILT. SILT. SILT. Slit: a long, narrow cut, tear or incision Silt: a sedimentary material composed of fine mineral particles (Sorry. I don’t normally correct typos but when it is the subject of your message and you use it over and over again, it would be helpful if you spelled it right. Same goes for the guy who wants "DISK BREAKS." I think most of us would prefer to not break anything.) -Robin
Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Yellowstone Guides, WHY!!
I would agree that a stop by the BLUE RIBBON is of benefit and that when in the Park you will be hard pressed not to have a good time all alone with their advice. Now outside the Park a boat trip down a certain river … W.P. Mich
Re: YNP guides I’ve been fishing the Park waters for 8 years. My father-in-law fished it for 40 years and was a great help, but I learned more with a guide for 1 day than you can imagine. If you fish trout waters only a few days a year the techniques are not familiar nor is the ability to read water. I have never had a shop there try to interest me in a guide! The stores can give you some idea of hatches, etc, but they will not usually send you where their guides will be fishing!! You can visit all the stores there and find that each one recommends a different fly for the same rivers. I still don’t think anything takes the place of good one on one help.
I also have to agree with Phil. I few years ago I went up on the madison river in Montana. We used a guide for one day and spent the rest of the trip fishing the river. The things we learned in that one day made our trip a complete success. If a person wants frustration, then don’t use the local resources. Bret
Your all right about guides. Look at what happened to the Madison and to Montana in general. The reason the Park river system isn’t in such bad shape is because the guides can’t not come and go as freely as they can else where. I may be wrong about these regulations Even today the folks at blue$$$$$$ribbon fly shop will never control their foot traffic into these delicate rivers. These guides out of the shops only have two months to make the bucks. Sorry If I’m too cynical, but having watched the "I’m only going to sell made in America flies" to "send the hoardes down to Slide Inn" come forth from the great blue $$$$$$ ribbon fly shop, I think some of these guides have cut their nose off spite their face. Now we’ll have ten guides with two clients apeice flishing for 309 rainbows instead of 3,090/mile.
On my first trip to Montana, I was set up by the Firehole Ranch to fish the Yellowstone with a guide (oh, it costs extra?!…). I was not at all excited about fishing with another person, nor on the YS (thought I was already too good for that!), but listened to the advise and am glad I did. My fishing skills took a giant leap forward that day- the idea of fishing drys downstream had never seemed like a likely method ’til then- the idea of changing flies WITH PURPOSE took on a whole new meaning for me- fishing over the same fish over and over without spooking- finding likely spots on a river that BIG- I could go on…the learning experience was surprising, to say the least. I came out of there with a picture of me holding a 23" Cut, that was so close to shore, I would have walked right over him if it weren’t for my guide- sure, I never would have been that successful without the guide, but I now COULD be- THANKS to him… I thought I was a hot-shot bad-ass trout sticker from Michigan, but once I saw how big the rivers were out there, I was simply overwhelmed. If you’re fishing there for the first time, you could certainly spend yer $200 in worse ways (like buying flies and not knowing where and how to effectively use them…). Lon C. Diehl Marysville, MI (I am embarrassed that I can’t drop the name of my guide here. He was from Last Chance, and had recently opened up a fly shop/guide service that I believe had "Last Chance" in the name- probably narrows it down to about 34 people, huh?!)
Your all right about guides. (stuff deleted) I think some of these guides have cut their nose off spite their face. Now we’ll have ten guides with two clients apeice flishing for 309 rainbows instead of 3,090/mile.
Are there too many guides in Montana? Are there too many fly fishermen for too few streams? Maybe so. But don’t blame the guides. They work damn dard for a living around here. If there are too many guides, perhaps the Fish & Game should stop issuing more licenses. But don’t blame an honest man for busting his ass, trying to put food on the table. Most of the guides I know are ski patrolmen and/or carpenters during the winter. Fishing guiding is good money for damned hard work. How many readers out there have any idea what it’s like to hand nail a wood shingle roof when it’s below zero, or what it’s like to finish concrete in the middle of the night, or what it’s like to pull on the oars for 85-out-of-90 12-14 hour days? Everybody seems to think guides live the life of Reilly. I spent 20 years in Montana doing fishing guiding and construction work. And the construction work was the easier chore. —
: Are there too many guides in Montana? Are there too many fly fishermen : for too few streams? Maybe so. But don’t blame the guides. They work : damn dard for a living around here. I’d have to second that. It reminds me of a lament heard from an Idaho guide (we regularly use guides to learn about new places). While floating down some river, he for some reason got to talking about the stress in his life. My reaction was something like the one Sandy painted: Stress? I certainly know that guides work long hours, dawn ’til dusk, then it’s fix the boat, mend the tackle, and tie some flies. But stress? Sure you do! Turns out, though, that it’s true, at least for him. Seems that we sports have this idea that if we pay $200/day for a guide we ought to catch some fish. Some can, some can’t. Think about places like the Railroad Ranch, where the fish have seen it all. Float an emerger by them and the most common trout reaction is probably something like, "Hmmmmmmm, handsome tie," unless you get it *just right*. Until the sport has caught the first fish or two, life is stressful. We tend to be pretty philosophical about things, having had great days and horrible days, and we tip just the same for both. But I have a feeling that this may not be a universal behavior. Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Phone: (970) 229-3531 Research Grants Program FAX: (970) 229-6198 3404 East Harmony Road Fort Collins, CO 80525-9599