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overloading a rod by one line wt is one of the oldest tricks in the book. You’ll do fine.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   Hi Walt,   Normally, if a reel is rated for a #5 outfit, it should hold a WF6F with   at   least 50 yds of quality 20# braided darcon backing.   There are exceptions, though.  I recently bought an Okuma Sierra reel for my   3 weight rod.  It is supposedly sized for 4 and 5 weight lines, but it is a   great deal smaller than the Orvis reel I bought about the same time.    Even   with the 3 weight WF line there is only room for about 50 yards of backing. That’s weird. I have the same reel loaded with a 5 weight WF and I have at least that much backing on it. You got one of those fat 555 lines on it?

I’ve got Teeny WF 3.  Don’t know remember any more about it than that.   I just went outside and stripped all the line off.  It turns out that I actually have about 75 yards of backing, but it’s 15 lb. Spectra or Spider wire or one of those new super strong small diameter lines instead of the braided dacron I’ve used in the past.  As a matter of fact, I bought this stuff because I was concerned about not having enough backing. The backing line on this Okuma Sierra (rated at 4/5 wt.) mics at .011 inch as compared to .015 for the braided dacron on my Orvis Rocky Mountain (rated at 5/6).  Of course, the dial caliper I used to check them mashes the line a bit, but the difference is still significant, I think.  There’s 120 yards of backing on the Orvis compared to 75 on the Okuma.  The diameter inside the posts is 2.538 for the Okuma and 3.025 (estimated because I couldn’t quite get the calipers inside the four posts on this reel) on the Orvis.  Inside width of the spool in .680 for the Okuma and .790 for the Orvis.  Both reels have an exposed rim, roughly 2.90 for the Okuma and 3.475 for the Orvis.  These comparisons may not read like there’s a great deal of difference between them, but visually the difference is quite dramatic and the Okuma reel has about as much line on it as is possible without interference while the Orvis could easily take another hundred yards of the finer backing, and this with a 5 wt. DT on it.  In short, the difference is startling; much greater than the difference in rating would suggest.  The Orvis reel appears about typical of the size I’d expect for a 5/6 wt., while the Okuma reel is tiny for a 4/5. Wolfgang

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    Hi Walt,     Normally, if a reel is rated for a #5 outfit, it should hold a WF6F with     at     least 50 yds of quality 20# braided darcon backing.       There are exceptions, though.  I recently bought an Okuma Sierra reel for my   3 weight rod.  It is supposedly sized for 4 and 5 weight lines, but it is a   great deal smaller than the Orvis reel I bought about the same time.    Even   with the 3 weight WF line there is only room for about 50 yards of backing. That’s weird. I have the same reel loaded with a 5 weight WF and I have at least that much backing on it. You got one of those fat 555 lines on it? Willi

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Walt, Normally, if a reel is rated for a #5 outfit, it should hold a WF6F with at least 50 yds of quality 20# braided darcon backing. There are exceptions, though.  I recently bought an Okuma Sierra reel for my 3 weight rod.  It is supposedly sized for 4 and 5 weight lines, but it is a great deal smaller than the Orvis reel I bought about the same time.  Even with the 3 weight WF line there is only room for about 50 yards of backing. Most reel manufacturers seem to be, shall we say, optimistic about the capacities of their reels.  I usually make a point of buying the reel about one size larger than the manufacturer’s specs indicate that I should buy. Kevin

Well, it also depends on what line was used is the capacity determination.  One of the "by-products" of the "new" system (weight, as opposed to size) is that diameter is not relevant, and so, it’s entirely possible to have a reel that will hold a particular brand of line, of a given weight, and X yards of backing, just as the maker indicates, and yet, not even be able to hold a full line of another type.  Granted, such a large variation is not likely, but in a smaller sized "large arbor" with a narrow spool, such a thing is possible, however unlikely. For a current example of the extremes, look a smaller _size_ silk compared to roughly equivalent, in _weight_, Cortland 555. TC, R

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Hi Walt, Normally, if a reel is rated for a #5 outfit, it should hold a WF6F with at least 50 yds of quality 20# braided darcon backing. There are exceptions, though.  I recently bought an Okuma Sierra reel for my 3 weight rod.  It is supposedly sized for 4 and 5 weight lines, but it is a great deal smaller than the Orvis reel I bought about the same time.  Even with the 3 weight WF line there is only room for about 50 yards of backing.

Most reel manufacturers seem to be, shall we say, optimistic about the capacities of their reels.  I usually make a point of buying the reel about one size larger than the manufacturer’s specs indicate that I should buy. Kevin

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Hi Walt, Normally, if a reel is rated for a #5 outfit, it should hold a WF6F with at least 50 yds of quality 20# braided darcon backing.

There are exceptions, though.  I recently bought an Okuma Sierra reel for my 3 weight rod.  It is supposedly sized for 4 and 5 weight lines, but it is a great deal smaller than the Orvis reel I bought about the same time.  Even with the 3 weight WF line there is only room for about 50 yards of backing. Wolfgang

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Thanks for all the feedback … consistent message … I will check on the backing and if sufficient I will go with the #5.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am fairly new to flyfishing. I have a 5/6 wt rated graphite rod and am considering a buy on a 5 wt reel.  I also have quite a bit of 6 wt line. Is it okay to put 6 wt line on a 5 wt reel?  I am assuming/thinking that since the rod is a 5/6 wt combination … it should be okay? thanks, Walt

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I am fairly new to flyfishing. I have a 5/6 wt rated graphite rod and am considering a buy on a 5 wt reel.  I also have quite a bit of 6 wt line.  Is it okay to put 6 wt line on a 5 wt reel?  I am assuming/thinking that since the rod is a 5/6 wt combination … it should be okay? thanks, Walt

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I am fairly new to flyfishing. I have a 5/6 wt rated graphite rod and am considering a buy on a 5 wt reel.  I also have quite a bit of 6 wt line. Is it okay to put 6 wt line on a 5 wt reel?  I am assuming/thinking that since the rod is a 5/6 wt combination … it should be okay?

It’ll be fine.  You might need a bit less backing than they recommend.

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I am fairly new to flyfishing. I have a 5/6 wt rated graphite rod and am considering a buy on a 5 wt reel.  I also have quite a bit of 6 wt line.  Is it okay to put 6 wt line on a 5 wt reel?  I am assuming/thinking that since the rod is a 5/6 wt combination … it should be okay? thanks, Walt

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I got an Outcast Fat Cat 66 VBoat for my birthday  and spent the day fishing a lovely pond on the edge of town. A friend who works for CO DOW gave me a tip on a low-pressure piece of stocked water and man oh man was he right! I have never in my life had a more productive day of fly fishing. This was my first time floating and I’m just amazed at the experience. I would like to meet other float tubers in the Boulder/Front Range area who would like to get together and fish. Reply here. Woo Hoo! Oh, btw, I’m 38. -bh

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I got an Outcast Fat Cat 66 VBoat for my birthday  and spent the day fishing a lovely pond on the edge of town. A friend who works for CO DOW gave me a tip on a low-pressure piece of stocked water and man oh man was he right! I have never in my life had a more productive day of fly fishing. This was my first time floating and I’m just amazed at the experience. I would like to meet other float tubers in the Boulder/Front Range area who would like to get together and fish. Reply here. Woo Hoo! Oh, btw, I’m 38. -bh

Happy Birthday, B! Got me one of these devices too, but never got to try it. Blew up (Booom) on the first trip. Never reached the water though, lucky me! Just got a replacement innertube, if I dare to use it… Tight lines and safe floats! Stefan, Sweden

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Ernie, I assume you are in eastern PA? I am new to flyfishing, but do know where you can do some awesome striper fishing if you aren’t too far east. Raystown Lake has great landlocked striper fishing. 20-30 pounders are the norm and 40+ pounders are caught every year. They do have a website, not sure of the url. Try a search. good luck, Matt

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Hey Guys, Been Fishing the Salt with a fly rod and other tackle for a while now.  Always looking for people to go with.  Would be interested in hearing from any body close. I am in NW Montgomery county.  Any body interested shoot me an email. Ernie, I would suggest a 10WT for most of your fishing, and an intermediate shooting setup for most of your fishing in the surf.  Seems like you are doing battle with the wind most of the time.  Faster sinking lines are great from jetties and intlets.  Get a stipping basket.  Fishing the surf with a fly rod can be very productive for several species in NJ and north coast waters and sometimes it will out produce conventional and spin tackle. Experiment… Damian Damian NuWave Tackle Innovative products designed by fishermen for fishermen Fly Tying equip and matls., Tackle and more. http://www.nuwavetackle.com/

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Thanks Paul              Ernie

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Hello Ernie, Like any "species specific" fishing, you first have to know your quarry and then you must understand your quarry’s quarry.  Check out http://www.fishbelly.com , it’s a new web site that is loaded with great information on fishing for all species of fish.  However, to meet your needs, check out the article by Lefty Kreh on fishing his deceiver fly http://www.fishbelly.com/articles/lk110399.htm Bookmark the site because there’s a new article coming soon by Lou Tabory that deals with how to present your flies for best results.  We will also be highlighting the many different prey items that all species of game fish love.  We will include underwater images that will help you "match the hatch" so to speak, in salt water. I hope this info helps.  If you have any other questions, hop on the fishbelly message forum and I’ll be happy to try and answer them. Finally, if you’re looking for "in depth" — no pun intended — information on stripers, check out the selection of videos at Fishbelly.  As an underwater videographer who has spent over 40 years in the striper’s domain, I can promise you any of the Laptew Production videos will make you a better striper angler. Seize the day!  Go fishing. Mike

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After many years of trouting I would like to give stripers a try. I live in Penna, and can easily get to NJ or the Cape , beforo I start calling guides, some basic info      (when, where, with who) would be appreciated                                                  Thanks,                                                            Ernie

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After many years of trouting I would like to give stripers a try. I live in Penna, and can easily get to NJ or the Cape , beforo I start calling guides, some basic info      (when, where, with who) would be appreciated                                                  Thanks,                                                            Ernie

For equipment you’ll want a 9wt, a sinking line and a reel that’s doesn’t say freshwater only. You can use a 7wt but if it’s really windy or you catch a really big fish you’ll appreciate the 9wt. A few clouser and a a few decievers are all you’ll need for flies. The early season in MA chartruse is a good color. I can’t help with NJ. Check with a local shop for what colors are good. If you buy the flies at the same shop you’re likely to get better advice. Paul

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says… <Snipped I’m a little unclear about the ettiquette of this. In the bass/catfish circles it’s sometimes okay to say "mind yer own dam’ biziness" as long as one says it around a mouthful of Skoal Long Cut Wintergreen or Pabst. How does this apply to flyfishing, if we’re so snooty and elite?

Hmmm. It’s hard to be snooty and elite when I spend most of my time picking out windknots and talking to trees that trap my line! Also the "everyman" kinds of fish I chase are a testament to just how vanilla I am… (Well ok, maybe French Vanilla with Pralines!) I gotta get a little further south and meet some of those folks. Even when I was in Houston I didn’t find too many of the "Skoal Crowd". — Michael Era

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Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders? Sounds like a good product to me but can’t find any (maybe that means it’s not such a good product idea). I am considering the Cabela’s Three Forks Featherlights, anyone have experience/comment on these or recommendations for other brands. Must be Y2K compliant. jim

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Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders? Sounds like a good product to me but can’t find any (maybe that means it’s not such a good product idea).

The only waist high waders I have seen have been either breathable or neoprene. — Charlie…

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Jim,    I use featherweight stocking foot hip waders, but have never seen any Waist High’s. Ernie Harrison – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders? Sounds like a good product to me but can’t find any (maybe that means it’s not such a good product idea). I am considering the Cabela’s Three Forks Featherlights, anyone have experience/comment on these or recommendations for other brands. Must be Y2K compliant. jim

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I use a pair from a company called OS systems.  I love ‘em, but don’t know where you can get them.  Maybe try Henry’s Fork Anglers, a friends nephew used to guide for them and might have gotten em from there ….. Tight Lines, Ed – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders? Sounds like a good product to me but can’t find any (maybe that means it’s not such a good product idea). I am considering the Cabela’s Three Forks Featherlights, anyone have experience/comment on these or recommendations for other brands. Must be Y2K compliant. jim

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Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders

Red Ball used to make them, (maybe still do),. Try Hook & Hackle. George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"

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I Have contacted several fly shops and outfitters and no one has ever seen waist high featherlights, so I guess they don’t exist. I did go to Cabela’s web site and found last years Chest feathers on sale for $24.00. This years catalogue lists them for $49.00 with neoprene socks and improved stitching. Does anyone have the older ones, was there a problem with the feet? $24.00 to me seems like a hell of deal, unless the feet leak, then they ain’t worth 24cents. jim

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Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders?

I don’t know which brand they were, but I recently saw some waist high waders at the Bass Pro Shop in Gurnee Illinois.  Bass Pro Shop does a lot of catalog sales and I’d be very much surprised if they don’t have a web site.  Might be a good place to start looking.

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I made a command decision and ordered the closeout featherlight stockingfoot waders from Cabela’s for $24.00 (price seems too good to be true). My wife is a pro with the sewing machine, when I get em I’m going to have her look at the possibility of lopping off the tops and installing belt loops. Probably another one of my brilliant ideas that will meet with utter failure. jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders? I don’t know which brand they were, but I recently saw some waist high waders at the Bass Pro Shop in Gurnee Illinois.  Bass Pro Shop does a lot of catalog sales and I’d be very much surprised if they don’t have a web site.  Might be a good place to start looking.

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Damn good idea Wolfgang. I had been thinking about the belt and didn’t really like it, the suspenders is a far far better idea. My wife will look at both options. Having never had featherlights before, you may be right and all I have to do is roll em down. jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I made a command decision and ordered the closeout featherlight stockingfoot waders from Cabela’s for $24.00 (price seems too good to be true). My wife is a pro with the sewing machine, when I get em I’m going to have her look at the possibility of lopping off the tops and installing belt loops. Probably another one of my brilliant ideas that will meet with utter failure. It should work Jim, but why bother?  It’s easy enough to roll down the top of the waders in warmer weather.  The roll may look a bit odd but it should tighten the fabric enough around your waist to make a belt unnecessary.  And then in colder conditions you still have a full length set of waders.  If you do go ahead with your plan I would recommend suspenders rather than the belt for a couple of reasons.  If you are concerned about heat, suspenders would leave the top open to provide a bit of circulation unlike a belt which will effectively seal the top and thus hold in heat.  I think suspenders are a more positive way to hold the top in place.  Belts can slide up and down.  Belts also rub against the fabric and will cause more wear.  Good luck.

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I made a command decision and ordered the closeout featherlight stockingfoot waders from Cabela’s for $24.00 (price seems too good to be true). My wife is a pro with the sewing machine, when I get em I’m going to have her look at the possibility of lopping off the tops and installing belt loops. Probably another one of my brilliant ideas that will meet with utter failure.

It should work Jim, but why bother?  It’s easy enough to roll down the top of the waders in warmer weather.  The roll may look a bit odd but it should tighten the fabric enough around your waist to make a belt unnecessary.  And then in colder conditions you still have a full length set of waders.  If you do go ahead with your plan I would recommend suspenders rather than the belt for a couple of reasons.  If you are concerned about heat, suspenders would leave the top open to provide a bit of circulation unlike a belt which will effectively seal the top and thus hold in heat.  I think suspenders are a more positive way to hold the top in place.  Belts can slide up and down.  Belts also rub against the fabric and will cause more wear.  Good luck.

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try Cabelas… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Maybe they’re not available. Has anyone seen Featherlight Waist High stocking foot waders? I don’t know which brand they were, but I recently saw some waist high waders at the Bass Pro Shop in Gurnee Illinois.  Bass Pro Shop does a lot of catalog sales and I’d be very much surprised if they don’t have a web site.  Might be a good place to start looking.

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I Have contacted several fly shops and outfitters and no one has ever seen waist high featherlights, so I guess they don’t exist. I did go to Cabela’s web site and found last years Chest feathers on sale for $24.00.

I don’t know what mine are but I did get a cheapy pair of waders from Cabelas a few years ago for that price.  It’s nylon fabric with PVC coating on the inside.  The seams looked like they were heat pressed together (no stitching).  They leaked after the 3rd day of fishing. Mu

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Well I received the chest featherlights from Cabela’s today and now know why they were so cheap and a closeout item. "What a Piece-O-C**p. 10 minutes later they were in the return mail back to Cabela’s. I thought $24.00 was too good to be true. The feet of these waders are beyond description… Maybe their new sewn neoprene foot waders are better. They were light…. jim

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Jim: Apart from any other consideration, make it a point to get neoprene foot waders.  There is a world of difference using those compared with lightweights that have feet out of the lightweight wader material.  If you can do it, spring for the "low end" Orvis or Hodgman breathables – you won’t regret it. Somewhat over $100, as I recall. Mark Faulkner – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I received the chest featherlights from Cabela’s today and now know why they were so cheap and a closeout item. "What a Piece-O-C**p. 10 minutes later they were in the return mail back to Cabela’s. I thought $24.00 was too good to be true. The feet of these waders are beyond description… Maybe their new sewn neoprene foot waders are better. They were light…. jim

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Check the Orvis Website.  They have the 2mm stretch neoprene waders on sale. DP – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jim: Apart from any other consideration, make it a point to get neoprene foot waders.  There is a world of difference using those compared with lightweights that have feet out of the lightweight wader material.  If you can do it, spring for the "low end" Orvis or Hodgman breathables – you won’t regret it. Somewhat over $100, as I recall. Mark Faulkner Well I received the chest featherlights from Cabela’s today and now know why they were so cheap and a closeout item. "What a Piece-O-C**p. 10 minutes later they were in the return mail back to Cabela’s. I thought $24.00 was too good to be true. The feet of these waders are beyond description… Maybe their new sewn neoprene foot waders are better. They were light…. jim

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White’s Pond in Concord has great fly fishing.  I generally fish it Dave LaCourse

Thanks for the tip. I have fished Whites a couple of times, but with non-fly tackle, and have, in fact, caught rainbows and a brown. I have heard that fishing the deep dropoffs with a fly in summer works, but have not actually tried it. Both Hopkinton Res and Ashland Res are stocked as well, and I’ve been dying to try them. Steve

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White’s Pond in Concord has great fly fishing.  I generally fish it Dave LaCourse Thanks for the tip. I have fished Whites a couple of times, but with non-fly tackle, and have, in fact, caught rainbows and a brown. I have heard that fishing the deep dropoffs with a fly in summer works, but have not actually tried it. Both Hopkinton Res and Ashland Res are stocked as well, and I’ve been dying to try them. Steve

Someone told me that Hopkington res. has lanlocked salmon. Is this true? Gary

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my opinion steve would be to fish these ponds when ever the sun is at its lowest point either in morning till 10 or in the eve till dark.for those ponds that contain brwns fish the shallows with any type of black stramer you have the black against a nite sky works well with them i could go into great detail but i just started typing and its driving crazy i think ill go to the pnd and relax byefor now

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Not true.  The state dumps in some of the spawned out Atlantic salmon brood stock from the Connecticuit/Merrimack salmon restoration program though.   Both the Wachusett and Quabbin have landlock populations and there is a good run on Wachusett tribs in the fall but it gets hammered by every sort of "fisherman" one could imagine and a few that can’t be believed. Even so, I always give it a try and have even landed two! Doug  

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Someone told me that Hopkington res. has lanlocked salmon. Is this true? Gary

Some of the deeper res. are occasionally stocked with broodstock salmon (i.e. old salmon that are producing good eggs for the stocking program anymore.) I believe Hopkinton and Ashland are, and I know Middle Cochituate is. You can call 1-800-ask-fish and follow the voice menu to find out exactly which lakes were stocked this spring with broodstock salmon. Steve

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I recently bought a fly outfit and was wondering if there was a good visual tutorial on the net, or anywhere else. Thx HR

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  I recently bought a fly outfit and was wondering if there was a good   visual tutorial on the net, or anywhere else.   Thx   HR

A visual tutorial for what?  Casting?  Fishing?  Fly tying?   Why didn’t you ask the joker from whom you bought your rod? Go back to the store where you bought the fly outfit and ask them for casting lessons and inquire about fishing classes (if you’ve not fished before).  If they don’t offer these things then return the outfit immediately and go somewhere else that does! I say this in all seriousness.  You are going to want lots more equipment and need lots more advice before long and you’d do well to get acquainted with a nice shop that can provide all these things. Be warned that fly tying is also looming on the horizon for you. cheers,         -tgades — Tony Gades. Seattle, WA.  USA http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades/Fishing/fish_page.html email: replace the "this_address_is_wrong" with "tgades"

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<Snipped However; for sake of good order, our company tests fly lines from all around the world.  

George, Have you tested the new airflo delta taper lines ? If so I would realy like to hear your opinion on these lines. Cheers Bruce….

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

In talking to Lee Wulff at a sport show some years ago he advised cutting back the front taper on the line if you planed on using it for big (bass) flies. You might cut a foot at a time and then try it out. William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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: _______BILL TELLS YOU STRAIGHT ARROW.  However; for sake of good order, : our company : tests fly lines from all around the world.  When inventing fly line : dressings, the : finishings, the casting abilities, multiple factors are studied all the : way to : putting them under microscopes too distance castings before and after : dressing them Sorry? I was under the impression the subject was TTs, oh well,  I suspect we’ll get to it eventually. BTW I would suggest, most, if not all dressing manufactureres do these tests. George Goes on: : I have known Lee and Joan Wulff personally for many years.  We have : always been very : strong and close aquaintences and friends.  Joan was here just this year : fly fishing : for steelhead.  All of this doesn’t mean much to you I know, so far. Damn right, except perhaps that you may have a slight bias.. George Goes on and on: : But I can : report to you the following facts. : : The Wulff Triangle Taper Fly Lines are produced under special design and : manufacturing : specifications just for the Lee Wulff Company by S.Anglers.  Scientific : Anglers cannot : sell the Lee Wulff Fly Lines to their customers and neither can they use : any of its : design advantages in any fly lines they manufacture. : All this sounds like a standard design/manufacturing procedure and licensing agreement to me. : It is my experience that the Lee Wulff Triangle Fly Lines are the finest : flying, farthest casting, most controllable fly lines made in the : world.  No one, and I mean, NO ONE makes : a finer designed fly line fo ease of casting, and honesty of delivery. : : In fact, my tests indicate that the Triangle Taper is really a : wonderfully over-designed Overdesigned? Wouldn’t have thought that possible except from a managerial viewpoint …"Hey, MichelAngelo, when are you going to make an end of it?" : fly line that engineering-wise, has a castability that exceeds the : strength of the finish : Scientific Anglers is able to come up with.  In short, the design is : years ahead of its : time.  Permit me to explain Jay.  I’ll try and make it short. …and its been "years ahead of its time" for the past five years. : : BECAUSE the Triangle casts so wonderfully, it is very easy to get : maximum line velocity and : fly line stretch built up . . . to the point, that if you don’t keep : this particular fly line  or ANY other Line : dressed and cared for with PZ Fly Line Dressing,   or any other decent fly line Dressing : you will overstretch "the stretchability" of : the Scientific Anglers coating and cause it to separate or crack right : where your fly line : normally exits the fly rod tip.  If you can restrain yourself and keep : your line speed within : limits and your fly line dressed and clean properly, you shouldn’t have : any problem.  I would add – with ANY decent line : : I’m telling you Jay.  When you want to reach out and touch someone (a : trout across a river) this baby will get you to the other side with one : false cast!   or you could wade/walk closer to minimise drag … just a suggestion. : : In conclusion; You couldn’t do any better.  It is the only fly line I : fish with.  It brings the ultimate joy into the lives of those who are : thrilled with the casting aspects of fly fishing. :   It does?  Sounds positively orgasmic, are you sure these things are   allowed  to be used in public? : Take care of this fly line and it will Never let you down.                        ^or ANY other decent line : : never.   until it wears out – like every line does eventually, – don’t they,   George? : : Sincerely, : : George Gehrke : Mr. Gink I have no argument with S.A or TTs, I just dislike spam. steve Melbourne, Australia. PS: Apologies to those offended by the use of the "O" word above.

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Yes I would agree with all who say it is a superb line.  My only complaint is they don’t last long efore cracking sets in.  Maybe One good season if I am lucky.  Anyone else find the same thing?

I’ve gotten great wear out of these lines by 1) cleaning them with a MILD soap and water and 2) redressing with Russ Peak’s line dressing.  I’ve not tried Gehrke’s.  Bill

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The British Airflow line using a polymer coating may be superior

in this respect only but falls short in a lot of other categories – or so sayeth the group.<< Airflo had a tremendous problem with line memory (coiling) some years back, but seem to have now overcome that problem. I tried a couple last year and was so pleased by them that now 6 of my 24 lines are AirFlo. Many others I know (over a dozen serious fly flingers) that have heard of how AirFlo worked hard to successfully overcome this problem have now started using them and all comments have been very positive.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Yes I would agree with all who say it is a superb line.  My only complaint is they don’t last long efore cracking sets in.  Maybe One good season if I am lucky.  Anyone else find the same thing? gp Jay Kidwell : Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks : like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR : ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about : it. — gp

George G. posted that the performance of the line exceeds the state of the art for line coatings – high line speed leads to wear. Incidentally I’ve complained of wear with conventional tapers herein as I only get about 2 seasons from a quality line. Most responded that my experience is about average. High modulus rods gave us high line speeds that gave us more friction and accelerated line wear. The British Airflow line using a polymer coating may be superior in this respect only but falls short in a lot of other categories – or so sayeth the group. I guess we need a break through in line coating technology. Ralph H

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Yes I would agree with all who say it is a superb line.  My only complaint is they don’t last long efore cracking sets in.  Maybe One good season if I am lucky.  Anyone else find the same thing? gp Jay Kidwell

: Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks : like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR : ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about : it. — gp

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

Yup!  I have a 2/3, 4/5 and 6/7.  They are great on the rods I use them for.  The rods are fast action rods so these lines load the rods nicely, cast like a dream, and roll cast fantastic.  I don’t use them exclusively, but like I said, they are great for the rods they are on. -Burton

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

I regularly fish with a TT5/6 on a 5wt. rod, casting #6 & #4 Dahlbergs and a TT8 Bonefish line on a 8wt., casting Dahlbergs up to #2/0 for Australian Bass. They make casting big air-resistant flies long distances easier because their long continuous tapers of up to 38′ allow you to false cast with alot more line in the air. The running line is also thinner than most WF lines and shoots better too. John Knight Sydney Fly Rodders Club    

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it. Jay, I’ve tried all manner of lines for Salmon/Steelhead and the TT is absolutely my favorite.  Smooth, powerful, perfect.  Bill

_______BILL TELLS YOU STRAIGHT ARROW.  However; for sake of good order, our company tests fly lines from all around the world.  When inventing fly line dressings, the finishings, the casting abilities, multiple factors are studied all the way to putting them under microscopes too distance castings before and after dressing them with GEHRKE’S PZ FLY LINE CLEANER &/or Dressing.  Rest assured, we have probably cast and tested almost every fly line being manufactured today at one time or another. I have known Lee and Joan Wulff personally for many years.  We have always been very strong and close aquaintences and friends.  Joan was here just this year fly fishing for steelhead.  All of this doesn’t mean much to you I know, so far. But I can report to you the following facts. The Wulff Triangle Taper Fly Lines are produced under special design and manufacturing specifications just for the Lee Wulff Company by S.Anglers.  Scientific Anglers cannot sell the Lee Wulff Fly Lines to their customers and neither can they use any of its design advantages in any fly lines they manufacture. It is my experience that the Lee Wulff Triangle Fly Lines are the finest flying, farthest casting, most controllable fly lines made in the world.  No one, and I mean, NO ONE makes a finer designed fly line fo ease of casting, and honesty of delivery. In fact, my tests indicate that the Triangle Taper is really a wonderfully over-designed fly line that engineering-wise, has a castability that exceeds the strength of the finish Scientific Anglers is able to come up with.  In short, the design is years ahead of its time.  Permit me to explain Jay.  I’ll try and make it short. BECAUSE the Triangle casts so wonderfully, it is very easy to get maximum line velocity and fly line stretch built up . . . to the point, that if you don’t keep this particular fly line dressed and cared for with PZ Fly Line Dressing, you will overstretch "the stretchability" of the Scientific Anglers coating and cause it to separate or crack right where your fly line normally exits the fly rod tip.  If you can restrain yourself and keep your line speed within limits and your fly line dressed and clean properly, you shouldn’t have any problem. I’m telling you Jay.  When you want to reach out and touch someone (a trout across a river) this baby will get you to the other side with one false cast! In conclusion; You couldn’t do any better.  It is the only fly line I fish with.  It brings the ultimate joy into the lives of those who are thrilled with the casting aspects of fly fishing. Take care of this fly line and it will Never let you down. never. Sincerely, George Gehrke Mr. Gink

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

I have used the Triangle Taper lines for years and they are the best casting lines I have ever encountered. Charlie…

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

Hi Jay, Great fly lines and unlike a lot of weight forward lines these are easier to roll cast because the first 40′(I think) is built like a double taper and after that it’s a weight forward. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 materials catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

Jay, I’ve tried all manner of lines for Salmon/Steelhead and the TT is absolutely my favorite.  Smooth, powerful, perfect.  Bill

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it. Hi Jay, Great fly lines and unlike a lot of weight forward lines these are easier to roll cast because the first 40′(I think) is built like a double taper and after that it’s a weight forward. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 materials catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

I believe the 1st 40 feet taper (ie get continuously thicker from the tip) in the standard models. Some models have 60 feet of taper.

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it.

I have used the TT lines for trout – the 5/6.  They are great lines and I enjoy casting them very much.  Yes, roll casting is easy.  The casting distance doesn’t really matter with this line.  I fish a spring creeek regularly and need to make a lot a tip casts – the leader may be twice the length than that of the fly line.  The line turn the leader over with no problem.  Also, beautiful loops at longer distances.  You may also want to look in Rio’s new lines.  I was talking with Jim Vincent and his new line sounds intriguing.  Say it has a #4 weight front taper and a #6 mid section(for a five weight).  It might make sense for casting larger flies while trying to tempt the bass. The name escapes me now and I am not the store, but if you read FR&R or FF, there is an ad in one of them.  TT has done me nothing but justice, and there bass line may have a heavier taper for larger flies. Clark H. Shafer LOst River Outfitters Ketchum, Idaho

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Has anyone out there tried the Lee Wulff TriangleTaper lines.  It looks like it would make a good bass line.  In Cabela’s it is PERFECT FOR ROLL-CASTING LINES UP TO 60 FEET.  Interested to hear from someone about it. I have used the Triangle Taper lines for years and they are the best casting lines I have ever encountered. Charlie…

Ditto! A

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Harrison, You may be right.  I believe I observed Jim and Kelly Watt on the tele one Sat. morning years ago.  For the life of me I can’t remember what ol’ Jimbo looks like BUT I have a vivid picture of Kelly, lips and all.   "Epoxylips", I need to remember that one.  Thank you for correcting me. Stephen Hiner

Stephen:         Just to set you straight, Jimbo is the one who laughs all the time – every nightclub comedians dream. His vocabulary also seems to consist of a single phrase, "oooooooh, NICE FISH". The other member of the dynamic duo squeals a lot and also has a limited vocabulary, i.e., "ooooooooh, THANK YOU FISH". Sometimes they get confused and say things like "THANK YOU, oooooooooh, NICE FISH", or even "NICE, ooooooh, YOU FISH THANK which isn’t in the script. Then they are difficult to tell apart. I think the double XX member of duo wears pink neoprenes, but I haven’t watched the show in years, so maybe I am mistaken.                                 Harrison

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A sure sign – the apocalypse is near!!!! Stephen Hiner

I’m not sure you meant "apocalypse". Didn’t you mean "epoxylips?"                                                 HRS

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Harrison, You may be right.  I believe I observed Jim and Kelly Watt on the tele one Sat. morning years ago.  For the life of me I can’t remember what ol’ Jimbo looks like BUT I have a vivid picture of Kelly, lips and all.  "Epoxylips", I need to remember that one.  Thank you for correcting me. Stephen Hiner

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Folks, most of you are probably aware of the Forum over at the Virtual Flyshop, (chat room, message boards, etc), but our ‘Experts’ board has been down for some time. We’re pleased to announce tha it is back up again, and we have some excellent fly fishermen willing to field your questions, including Gary LaFontaine, Jim Teeny, Jim & Kelly Watt, Dan Wright, Ian Martin and others. Please feel free to make use of this service! The URL for the VFS Forum is http://www.flyshop.com/Forum Thanks, — Mike Tucker-  The Virtual Flyshop Web: http://www.flyshop.com Phone: 970/225-6445

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A sure sign – the apocalypse is near!!!! Stephen Hiner

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Just my $0.02, but I tend to agree with clyde.  K-mart sells a $30- starter outfit.  I don’t like to go that cheap, but I have no problem with some of the next step up.  I recomend an 8′ 6wt for starters.  That will fish the smallest brookie and still land some big salmon.  I recomend Cabellas for some great deals too.  I just bought an IM6 graphite pack rod, 8′ 5wt 4pc, with an excellent reel for 49.95 total.  The reel seet is kind of cheap, and the rod has a very soft action (which I tend to prefer anyway), but it’s a nice package.  Good luck, and don’t get caught up in the snobbery of fly fishing.  Remember, the fish has no idea what you paid for your equipment.

Reminds me of the story about the guy who went to the fishing show and was cruising all the lure vendors’ displays.  He stops by a particularly bright display – full of neon colored plastic and sparkling lures.  He asks the guy behind the counter, "So do the fish like these?" pointing to the display.  "Dunno," says the vendor.  "We don’t sell ‘em to the fish." Joe G.

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I fished for 8 years now, mostly spin-cast.  I never once fly fish before and I want to take up the art of fly fishing.  To begin I want to ask a few questions:         1.  If I want to fish for trout and salmon but I only want one             rod, what size of rod should I get?         2.  What’s a good rod for a beginner (should I get something             cheap and upgrade later or start with a expensive gear)?         3.  Should I start with a float line or a sink line?         4.  What’s a good beginner fly pattern(s)?         5.  What’s else do I need to know?         6.  Is there a newsgroup for fly fishing? Thanks in advance for all replies. R.Ng

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I fished for 8 years now, mostly spin-cast.  I never once fly fish before and I want to take up the art of fly fishing.  To begin I want to ask a few questions:         1.  If I want to fish for trout and salmon but I only want one             rod, what size of rod should I get?

        not really a good idea … for salmon you should have a big rod,          like a 9wt, but just for "normal" fishing go with a smaller rod.         2.  What’s a good rod for a beginner (should I get something             cheap and upgrade later or start with a expensive gear)?

        dont get cheap stuff …. i get my spinning stuff from k-mart,        but you need quality rods to fly cast right $120 for rod and reel        beginner set….         3.  Should I start with a float line or a sink line?

        for starters definitly a floating line         4.  What’s a good beginner fly pattern(s)?

         get a fly book … "all of um.."         5.  What’s else do I need to know?

         what fish are you going for ? .. hatches … the meaning of life.         6.  Is there a newsgroup for fly fishing?

         no ,(i least i dont know about it), but there is  listserv mail          group, which i recommend …(i’m in it) .. 30-50 messages daily ! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks in advance for all replies.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –         1.  If I want to fish for trout and salmon but I only want one             rod, what size of rod should I get?    I’ve used $15 8′ fly rods for years that I’ve bought at K-mart and other dept. stores – they work.  I might not be able to cast as far or as easily as others out here with their expensive equipment but I bet I have just as much fun!  I do suggest getting a half decent reel.  I bought a "cheap" one ($20) for my wife at K-mart,  she doesn’t mind but it just doesn’t feel right to me. (Probably sp? I’d say the same about my cheap rods if I had ever used some of the more expensive models. )         2.  What’s a good rod for a beginner (should I get something             cheap and upgrade later or start with a expensive gear)?         3.  Should I start with a float line or a sink line?    I use 8′ to 9′ graphite composite rods that recommend 6 or 7 wt line.   I usually fish for trout and salmon, but also use it for bass and panfish.  I fish with floating line and have used dry, wet and streamers for flies.         4.  What’s a good beginner fly pattern(s)?    Go to a local fly shop of the area that you are going to fish for effective patterns.  Also the list of Flies that has been on this list is a very good start. Others:  I do not intend to start a flame war about cheap and expensive equipment.  I use the cheap stuff because that’s what I can afford.  And it works well.  I apologize if I offend anyone by using low quality equipment.   But the price and quality isn’t what fishing is about – catching fish and enjoying yourself is and that’s what I do. (Flame suit on…. -Clyde -Clyde W. Watson                                Cabletron Systems, Inc.  603-337-3133 voice                             Rochester, NH 03867  603-337- 3075 fax                              

Just my $0.02, but I tend to agree with clyde.  K-mart sells a $30- starter outfit.  I don’t like to go that cheap, but I have no problem with some of the next step up.  I recomend an 8′ 6wt for starters.  That will fish the smallest brookie and still land some big salmon.  I recomend Cabellas for some great deals too.  I just bought an IM6 graphite pack rod, 8′ 5wt 4pc, with an excellent reel for 49.95 total.  The reel seet is kind of cheap, and the rod has a very soft action (which I tend to prefer anyway), but it’s a nice package.  Good luck, and don’t get caught up in the snobbery of fly fishing.  Remember, the fish has no idea what you paid for your equipment.                 Lenny Bloksberg

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