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Asadi writes: Peter, I’m seriously interested and would encourage The Pirate to do a small search also. We’re talking full hook-up campgrounds with saunas for heaven’s sake! And the pics that I’ve seen, well, Kodak moments abound. Only one problem, John: I’m booked at Lakewood for the entire month of June.  I would love to fish pike with Peter (will fish steelies with him in May), but I can’t give up Lakewood.  Thanks for the thought. Dave

It’s a bitch that the best Georgian Bay pike and the best time on the Rapid are the same month.  On my chronology, I went and left out our May float trip – how could I? OK, first week of May – Saugeen River float trip for steelies second week of May – Penns third week of May – some time on the Grand fourth week of May – St. John’s, Nfld first week of June – Rapid River, ME afterward – P to the fourth btw, Screech anyone??? Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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It’s going to be a busy few weeks.  First I’ll be at Penns, then I’ll be in St. John’s, Newfoundland the last week of May on business (just before salmon season opens, drats!) and I’ll be hooking up with a guide for some sea-run browns.  Then the next week, the first week of June, I’ll be on the Rapid.  Afterward, the rest of June is open for dates for the P to the 4th.  And in between all of this, I’ll be fitting in some days chasing brownies on the Grand. It’s a dirty job but somebody had to do it. Peter

Bitch.  <G — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply

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first week of May – Saugeen River float trip for steelies second week of May – Penns third week of May – some time on the Grand fourth week of May – St. John’s, Nfld first week of June – Rapid River, ME afterward – P to the fourth btw, Screech anyone??? Peter

Yeah, but will you really appreciate it?  Bitch.  <G — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply

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….btw, Screech anyone???

Hit me. Wolfgang

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Peter, I’m seriously interested and would encourage The Pirate to do a small search also. We’re talking full hook-up campgrounds with saunas for heaven’s sake! And the pics that I’ve seen, well, Kodak moments abound. For me to do a trailer tow all the way up, figuring to overnight close to your place as a rest stop on the way, I’d like to arrange a partner to share the gas…my mileage gets cut in half when I tow. I could even put up a third person if people are interested.

If it’s just you and me, then we can do the Hagersville-Byng Inlet leg together. From my short foray to your neck of the woods last fall, I would highly recommend this to ROFF and would like to see a little interest. If you are definitely in, give me some dates. I need to come up anyway as I am just about out of Nabob coffee.

Don’t forget Tim Horton’s  :) For those who care about such matters, the exchange rate was  excellent a last year. I think I bought right at fifteen pounds of coffee. The campground fees are right at $25….Canadian….or $16 US. I’ll be pricing hats with ‘Post Penns Pike Palaver’ embroidery.

The ‘P to the fourth’ clave! John . . .  once more into the breech! . . . or is it ‘breach? . . . britches? PS. I made it there and back through customs with expired plates on the trailer!

They just took one look at your memorable visage and then had no further interest in your plates. <g Howzabout the rest of you?  Or are you all too chickenshit to go to a furrin country to fish?  <G Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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I’ll be pricing hats with ‘Post Penns Pike Palaver’ embroidery. The ‘P to the fourth’ clave! John . . .  once more into the breech! . . . or is it ‘breach? . . . britches? PS. I made it there and back through customs with expired plates on the trailer!

Petah,    Thought you were gonna be on the Rapid Post Penns.  Wha’s up wid dat? — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply

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Asadi writes: Peter, I’m seriously interested and would encourage The Pirate to do a small search also. We’re talking full hook-up campgrounds with saunas for heaven’s sake! And the pics that I’ve seen, well, Kodak moments abound.

Only one problem, John: I’m booked at Lakewood for the entire month of June.  I would love to fish pike with Peter (will fish steelies with him in May), but I can’t give up Lakewood.  Thanks for the thought. Dave

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Frank Reid writes: Thought you were gonna be on the Rapid Post Penns.  Wha’s up wid dat?

He is.  And his lovely wife.  I think he is talking about Georgia Bay later, after Lakewood. Dave

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I’ll be pricing hats with ‘Post Penns Pike Palaver’ embroidery. The ‘P to the fourth’ clave! John . . .  once more into the breech! . . . or is it ‘breach? . . . britches? PS. I made it there and back through customs with expired plates on the trailer! Petah,   Thought you were gonna be on the Rapid Post Penns.  Wha’s up wid dat?

It’s going to be a busy few weeks.  First I’ll be at Penns, then I’ll be in St. John’s, Newfoundland the last week of May on business (just before salmon season opens, drats!) and I’ll be hooking up with a guide for some sea-run browns.  Then the next week, the first week of June, I’ll be on the Rapid.  Afterward, the rest of June is open for dates for the P to the 4th.  And in between all of this, I’ll be fitting in some days chasing brownies on the Grand. It’s a dirty job but somebody had to do it. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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I’ll be in Lakewood the first week of June but after that . . . A couple of seasons ago, I stayed at Sawmill Lodge with Scott (no. 1 son) and we tangoed with Mr. Pike for a couple of days. I just received a mailout from Sawmill and they have a deal going.  We can get a cabin for four people, for three days, with two boats and gas for a total of $240.00 CAD each ($160.00 in real money).  That’s the four person cabin plan but there are other arrangements possible. They have a long motel-like arrangement they call the bunkhouse which we can get a deal on if we had enough bods. Given the different sizes of cabins, etc. they can accommodate pretty well any combination of numbers.  June is the hot month and as of today they have zero bookings as their mailers just went out. If we get our bookings in by Dec 31st, there’s a 15% discount and a 10% discount if booked by Jan 31st. BTW, guides cost $100.00 CAD a day including the boat and there’s the possibility of musky and walleye.  Smallies are a given. For equipment, 7 wt. to 10 wt. will do but a 9 or 10 is preferred. You’ll need a  minimum of two lines, a bassbug type floater and a full sink.  Depending on temperatures, the pike can be holding in the shallows or in 6′ to 10′ of water, so the ability to fish both helps. If you’re interested, I’ll need to send them deposits to hold the cabins. Sawmill is 4 hrs. north of my place and I live about 1 1/2 hrs. from Buffalo and three hours from Detroit (not allowing for traffic jams at the border.)  The best bet would be to drive up some time before and stay at my place before we head north.  Those wishing to fly should try and book into Hamilton rather than Toronto.  Hamilton airport is 20 minutes away, but Toronto’s Pearson International is 2 hrs. Let me know if you’re interested. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Peter, is the fishing on the bay itself? Can you get a guide and boat if you have made other arrangements for lodging?  A pike can give you a heck a ride on a kayak…admittedly, they are a little hard to steer…. Looks like some decent (EXCEPTIONAL) campgrounds for the land yacht crowd if my searches have pulled up the right Georgian Bay.. john

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Peter, is the fishing on the bay itself? Can you get a guide and boat if you have made other arrangements for lodging?  A pike can give you a heck a ride on a kayak…admittedly, they are a little hard to steer…. Looks like some decent (EXCEPTIONAL) campgrounds for the land yacht crowd if my searches have pulled up the right Georgian Bay.. john

The fishing is in the rivers, inlets, and archipelago along the eastern shore of the bay.  We don’t actually fish the open bay. Guides and boats are available to anyone, they aren’t linked to a single lodge.  Mostly south of this area is holiday heaven for Torontoians (the Muskokas) but the Byng Inlet area is a bit farther north so it’s less busy.   The number of parks, campgrounds, and resorts is quite high because of this. The land here is quite different with a lot of exposed rock, not much soil and the water bottom mimics the land.  To find the pike, we have to find the weed beds for much of the water has a bottom of barren rock, but this  does have the benefit of concentrating the fish.  The area is very shallow with only a few spots much over ten feet deep so all of it is easily accessible with Type 5 or Type 6 sinking line, plus a floating line for the bays and shorelines.  Pike hang in the shallows till the water warms up then they move off into the deeper areas.  While they’re in the shallows, a floating line and big, hair bugs are used.  There’s nothing like the top water take of a pike. The big jaws slash out of the water, turn on the fly and smash it. Then the fish turns and tries to rip the rod out of your hands.  At which point you try and get your heart started again.  <G Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Peter, I’m seriously interested and would encourage The Pirate to do a small search also. We’re talking full hook-up campgrounds with saunas for heaven’s sake! And the pics that I’ve seen, well, Kodak moments abound. For me to do a trailer tow all the way up, figuring to overnight close to your place as a rest stop on the way, I’d like to arrange a partner to share the gas…my mileage gets cut in half when I tow. I could even put up a third person if people are interested. From my short foray to your neck of the woods last fall, I would highly recommend this to ROFF and would like to see a little interest. If you are definitely in, give me some dates. I need to come up anyway as I am just about out of Nabob coffee. For those who care about such matters, the exchange rate was  excellent a last year. I think I bought right at fifteen pounds of coffee. The campground fees are right at $25….Canadian….or $16 US. I’ll be pricing hats with ‘Post Penns Pike Palaver’ embroidery. John . . .  once more into the breech! . . . or is it ‘breach? . . . britches? PS. I made it there and back through customs with expired plates on the trailer! http://www.parkscanada.gc.ca/parks/ontario/georgian_bay/english/campi… m http://www.lafontaine-ent.on.ca/camping/noframes/face.html

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Fishing in Chili. January/ Februari 2003 I want to visit Chili specially for fly fishing. Who can give me information about the fishing licenses. By example, do you need for every river a special license or just only a state license? Is it possibility to fish teh most river or is it private? Are ther also campgrounds and is it aloud to camp across the rivers. where can I rend a car for a resonableness price? Every information is very welkom, by e-mail or by post office box. thank you very very much. Marty Maas Eikenhof 11 5243 RJ Rosmalen The Netherlands.

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Fishing in Chili

I hear the fishing can be real hot

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JeffC wrote… I hear the fishing can be real hot

Only if you are using habenero flies. — Warren change addy to yahoo for email Henry’s Fork Clave info and Bozeman, MT fishing info http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt3/HFclave.html

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Research and look up Jim Repine who has a lodge on the Futalafu River in Chili.  He can line you out with everything you need to know. George Gehrke http://www.gink.com

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Fishing in Chili. January/ Februari 2003 I want to visit Chili specially for fly fishing. Who can give me information about the fishing licenses. By example, do you need for every river a special license or just only a state license? Is it possibility to fish teh most river or is it private? Are ther also campgrounds and is it aloud to camp across the rivers. where can I rend a car for a resonableness price? Every information is very welkom, by e-mail or by post office box. thank you very very much. Marty Maas Eikenhof 11 5243 RJ Rosmalen The Netherlands.

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I have a photo of what you can expect to see in Yellowstone in August: http://www.ruralnetwork.net/%7Etroutbum/album/sp_miscellaneous/madiso… There must have been 100 people alongside the road watching these morons (and I don’t mean the elk). When you drive through the Park make sure to stop and get out of your car at every traffic jam. There’ll probably be some cool wildlife. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Cool picture, but not especially frightful. I fish in RMNP at least 20 days each season and I obliviously get that close to elk several times each year. The national park elk herds tend to be pretty docile; I don’t recall the last time I heard of anyone around here being hurt by one. Bull moose, on the other hand, scare the shit out of me. "rw" wrote I have a photo of what you can expect to see in Yellowstone in August:

http://www.ruralnetwork.net/%7Etroutbum/album/sp_miscellaneous/madiso… adison_elk.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There must have been 100 people alongside the road watching these morons (and I don’t mean the elk). When you drive through the Park make sure to stop and get out of your car at every traffic jam. There’ll probably be some cool wildlife.

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Cool picture, but not especially frightful. I fish in RMNP at least 20 days each season and I obliviously get that close to elk several times each year. The national park elk herds tend to be pretty docile; I don’t recall the last time I heard of anyone around here being hurt by one. Bull moose, on the other hand, scare the shit out of me.

That bull had a harem of about 15 cows behind him, out of the picture. I’d have been out of the water pronto. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Charlie & Willi were making noises about a Colorado ‘Clave and that would be great, but I was thinking a ‘Clave in Yellowstone National Park might be worth considering. If we stayed up in Mammoth Hot Springs we’d be within easy driving distance of Soda Butte, Lamar, Slough Creek and literally miles and miles of decent trout water. I’m thinking the first full week of August, Sunday the 5th to Saturday the 11th. We’d have to get going pretty quickly on reservations, the Park fills up early. Any interest ?

Count me in.  Awfully touristy, but the company would more than make up for that.  I have been looking forward to especially seeing you again Ken — Warren Findley

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I’m thinking the first full week of August, Sunday the 5th to Saturday the 11th. We’d have to get going pretty quickly on reservations, the Park fills up early. Any interest ?

Are the dates flexible at all, if so yes. I can’t go anywhere from the 4th to the 11th of any month. Not that I would expect anyone to change the dates just for me, but since it was early I’d thought I’d ask. The following week would be my birthday and there is no way my wife could say no <g — Wayne Knight Expert in creating tailing loops and windknots Otherwise Fishless in Kansas

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Good point.  The Labor Day cut-off is not as sharp as it used to be years ago.  Just too many people have taken up fly-fishing and more people have more flexibility in their work/vacation schedules.  It’s not until October or so until the streams are truly people-free.  Still, I don’t think the post-labor day crowds rival at all the August circus.  It would be helpful to have up-to-date info (based on this past year’s experience) on which areas/campgrounds are likely to be least crowded. JR – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   Two years ago we packed into Slough Creek, campground 8.  Before we went in we had some time to spend driving around Yellowstone and fishing a few creeks.  Some places were crowded, some weren’t.  One of the nicest fish I caught was in Soda Butte creek.  It was a short walk and no other people.   After Labor Day, my wife and I drove through the park both going and coming from a visit to friends in Stephensville, MT.  The streams were packed!  I visited Bud Lilly’s fly shop and the first thing the guy behind the counter said to me is, "If you’re here to book a guide, we’re full up for the next several weeks."  I guess everyone had the idea to wait until the kids were back in school.   In spite of this—have a clave and I’ll try to make it.  I like those short drives.  It’s only about 5 hours from home:)

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Are the dates flexible at all, …

Well, yes and no. September is completely out of the question for us, Kristine has work commitments. I mentioned the first full week in August because traditionally the Yellowstone Institute has a full slate of interesting classes for the non-fishing folks like Kristine to attend. The Summer 2001 Course Catalog is due out any day now, will post a pointer when it appears. Big Dale, I couldn’t find the 2001 dates for the Livingston FFF Conclave on their website, you’re right it would be nice to gather either just before or just after. Do you know those dates ? — Ken Fortenberry

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Conclave on their website, you’re right it would be nice to gather either just before or just after. Do you know those dates ? –

The dates for the FFF conclave are Aug.6-11, but most often I attend only wed afternoon thru saturday, so if the clave is that week I could still make most of the clave. I sure as hell don’t want to miss fishing in the Yellowstone area with you guys a second year in a row. Besides, I need a fix of shopping in Blue Ribbon Flies in West Yellowstone. Let me know who to contact for cabin reservations in the park as I would rather plan this sooner than later knowing how the park fills up. Big Dale

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[snipped] I did have the opportunity to camp out in Yellowstone for 10 days in September once, though, and it was one of the most memorable trips of my life.  The elk are in full rut, and are right in the campgrounds.  Makes it a little hard to sleep when a monster bull is bugling right outside the tent, but it is very exciting.  You owe it to yourself to go there in the fall sometime if you haven’t yet.

Been there, done that, had to scramble into a tight bundle of lodge poles to avoid being skewered. /daytripper (That was one ornery bull elk…)

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I think you misspelled "horny".  :-) Frank (ain’t gonna mount me) Church [snipped] Been there, done that, had to scramble into a tight bundle of lodge poles to avoid being skewered. /daytripper (That was one ornery bull elk…)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nothing to whet the appetite for a ‘Clave like a rousing success of a ‘Clave and Bruce’s San Juan ‘Clave was certainly that. I’m thinking the first full week of August, Sunday the 5th to Saturday the 11th. We’d have to get going pretty quickly on reservations, the Park fills up early. Any interest ? Ken please count me in on this Clave….it will be my first and I can kill two birds with one stone!  Attend my first Clave and get the wife to Yellowstone.

Did anyone else notice the red flag?

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like those short drives.  It’s only about 5 hours from home:)

It is a lot longer drive from Dallas, but I would be willing. It would be nice if the clave was either the week before or the week after the FFFconclave in Livingston. My greatest regret of 2000 is not being able to make the Montana clave.. Big Dale

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I’d opt for the last week in August, if it be August at all. Hoppers, cooler temperatures, and hopefully less crowded. I vote for a Western first part of Sept. after the kiddies have gone back to school.

Well, sure, that’s great, if you don’t have to be there at school to teach the kiddies! I would be seriously hot to go to a Yellowstone Clave in August, although the third or fourth week of August would be best for me, as I plan to be in British Columbia for the first half of Aug (see my other post), and would likely be driving back through Montana about that time. I did have the opportunity to camp out in Yellowstone for 10 days in September once, though, and it was one of the most memorable trips of my life.  The elk are in full rut, and are right in the campgrounds.  Makes it a little hard to sleep when a monster bull is bugling right outside the tent, but it is very exciting.  You owe it to yourself to go there in the fall sometime if you haven’t yet. Kevin

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Any interest ?

Count me in. KR

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Nothing to whet the appetite for a ‘Clave like a rousing success of a ‘Clave and Bruce’s San Juan ‘Clave was certainly that.

<Snip I’m thinking the first full week of August, Sunday the 5th to Saturday the 11th. We’d have to get going pretty quickly on reservations, the Park fills up early. Any interest ?

Ken please count me in on this Clave….it will be my first and I can kill two birds with one stone!  Attend my first Clave and get the wife to Yellowstone. Ed "Luckyboy" Bleck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — Ken Fortenberry

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With all these claves coming up in the next year it might be a good idea to put an agenda somewhere on the web in order to keep track of what’s happening where, when, who to contact and how to get there. Maybe a good reason to revive www.roff.org? Herman

So far there’s talk (and more) about September in Maine, May in PA, and I think Michigan in March/April. – but I could be wrong.  A list with dates on a site would be a good idea. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I agree.  Based on several years’ experience (although I haven’t been there since 95), it will be much more pleasant after Labor Day.  There will still be a good number of other folks fishing, but it won’t be the madhouse August is.  Fishing is great throughout September. JR I’d opt for the last week in August, if it be August at all. Hoppers, cooler temperatures, and hopefully less crowded. I vote for a Western first part of Sept. after the kiddies have gone back to school.

  Two years ago we packed into Slough Creek, campground 8.  Before we went in we had some time to spend driving around Yellowstone and fishing a few creeks.  Some places were crowded, some weren’t.  One of the nicest fish I caught was in Soda Butte creek.  It was a short walk and no other people.   After Labor Day, my wife and I drove through the park both going and coming from a visit to friends in Stephensville, MT.  The streams were packed!  I visited Bud Lilly’s fly shop and the first thing the guy behind the counter said to me is, "If you’re here to book a guide, we’re full up for the next several weeks."  I guess everyone had the idea to wait until the kids were back in school.   In spite of this—have a clave and I’ll try to make it.  I like those short drives.  It’s only about 5 hours from home:) Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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Any interest ?

Me. Joel Axelrad

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I’d opt for the last week in August, if it be August at all. Hoppers, cooler temperatures, and hopefully less crowded.

I vote for a Western first part of Sept. after the kiddies have gone back to school. Willi

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I agree.  Based on several years’ experience (although I haven’t been there since 95), it will be much more pleasant after Labor Day.  There will still be a good number of other folks fishing, but it won’t be the madhouse August is.  Fishing is great throughout September. JR – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’d opt for the last week in August, if it be August at all. Hoppers, cooler temperatures, and hopefully less crowded. I vote for a Western first part of Sept. after the kiddies have gone back to school.

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With all these claves coming up in the next year it might be a good idea to put an agenda somewhere on the web in order to keep track of what’s happening where, when, who to contact and how to get there. Maybe a good reason to revive www.roff.org? Herman – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nothing to whet the appetite for a ‘Clave like a rousing success of a ‘Clave and Bruce’s San Juan ‘Clave was certainly that. We’ve got Wolfie’s steelhead expedition in late March early April, Tom’s Spring ‘Clave on the legendary limestone creeks of Pennsylvania in May, but nothing planned yet for anything west of the Mississip’ during the summer of 2001. Charlie & Willi were making noises about a Colorado ‘Clave and that would be great, but I was thinking a ‘Clave in Yellowstone National Park might be worth considering. If we stayed up in Mammoth Hot Springs we’d be within easy driving distance of Soda Butte, Lamar, Slough Creek and literally miles and miles of decent trout water. I’m thinking the first full week of August, Sunday the 5th to Saturday the 11th. We’d have to get going pretty quickly on reservations, the Park fills up early. Any interest ? — Ken Fortenberry

–         Cheers, Herman         Herman Nijland         Daytime webmaster         Lifetime flyfisher

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Last week in August, first week in September – whenever the fishing is good and the crowds are lowest; count me in! Bob in El Paso – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Had to miss last year,s western clave, but I,m interested in going out in August.  Indian Joe   Wilmington N.C

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Nothing to whet the appetite for a ‘Clave like a rousing success of a ‘Clave and Bruce’s San Juan ‘Clave was certainly that. We’ve got Wolfie’s steelhead expedition in late March early April, Tom’s Spring ‘Clave on the legendary limestone creeks of Pennsylvania in May, but nothing planned yet for anything west of the Mississip’ during the summer of 2001. Charlie & Willi were making noises about a Colorado ‘Clave and that would be great, but I was thinking a ‘Clave in Yellowstone National Park might be worth considering. If we stayed up in Mammoth Hot Springs we’d be within easy driving distance of Soda Butte, Lamar, Slough Creek and literally miles and miles of decent trout water. I’m thinking the first full week of August, Sunday the 5th to Saturday the 11th. We’d have to get going pretty quickly on reservations, the Park fills up early. Any interest ? — Ken Fortenberry

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Had to miss last year,s western clave, but I,m interested in going out in August.  Indian Joe   Wilmington N.C

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nothing to whet the appetite for a ‘Clave like a rousing success of a ‘Clave and Bruce’s San Juan ‘Clave was certainly that. We’ve got Wolfie’s steelhead expedition in late March early April, Tom’s Spring ‘Clave on the legendary limestone creeks of Pennsylvania in May, but nothing planned yet for anything west of the Mississip’ during the summer of 2001. Charlie & Willi were making noises about a Colorado ‘Clave and that would be great, but I was thinking a ‘Clave in Yellowstone National Park might be worth considering. If we stayed up in Mammoth Hot Springs we’d be within easy driving distance of Soda Butte, Lamar, Slough Creek and literally miles and miles of decent trout water. I’m thinking the first full week of August, Sunday the 5th to Saturday the 11th. We’d have to get going pretty quickly on reservations, the Park fills up early. Any interest ?

I’d opt for the last week in August, if it be August at all. Hoppers, cooler temperatures, and hopefully less crowded. I include the Madison, Henry’s Lake, the Gallatin, etc, in "Yellowstone". Going all that way might as well hit the biggies… /daytripper (Gonna think about it)

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Planning on Rock Creek, then to Libby, first week August.  Any info on the better campgrounds for us tent campers appreciated.  I was raised on Rock Creek, long, long ago– before electification.    Also info on guides in Libby for drifting, Also info on cabins, accomodations as well as campgounds  (if it rains us out)   Al Schuh-fly

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I’d check on the water levels at Rock Creek first, if you mean THE Rock Creek East of Missoula.  The last report I heard was fishing could be over there for the season in the next week or so- water levels are way below normal – check with Doug at the Rock Creek Mercantile (406)825-6440 John

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Planning on Rock Creek, then to Libby, first week August.  Any info on the better campgrounds for us tent campers appreciated.  I was raised on Rock Creek, long, long ago– before electification.    Also info on guides in Libby for drifting, Also info on cabins, accomodations as well as campgounds (if it rains us out)   Al Schuh-fly

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Planning on Rock Creek, then to Libby, first week August.  Any info on the better campgrounds for us tent campers appreciated.  I was raised on Rock Creek, long, long ago– before electification.    Also info on guides in Libby for drifting, Also info on cabins, accomodations as well as campgounds  (if it rains us out)   Al Schuh-fly

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For river reports. check this URL: http://www.fourrivers.net/index.htm They’re saying that the flow of Rock Creek is down to 332 cfs, which ain’t too good. We’re going out there tomorrow (7/8) and will be back on the 16th. The campground where we’re staying is on Rock Creek, but we’re going to concentrate on fishing the Blackfoot and the Bitterroot. For tent camping, see the following: http://travelmontana.state.mt.us/faq/links.htm …it has links to all sorts of travel and accomodation sites all over the state. Regards, LR

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Planning on Rock Creek, then to Libby, first week August.  Any info on the better campgrounds for us tent campers appreciated.  I was raised on Rock Creek, long, long ago– before electification.    Also info on guides in Libby for drifting, Also info on cabins, accomodations as well as campgounds (if it rains us out)   Al Schuh-fly

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http://montana.usgs.gov/rt-cgi/gen_tbl_pg for Montana streamflows. http://montana.usgs.gov/rt-cgi/gen_stn_pg?station=12334510 for current Rock Creek conditions. The creek is definitely low but then all the rivers are (at least this side of the divide). The bigger waters are fishing extremely well right now. Lots of Golden Stone and evening caddis right now with good PMD’s late morning to early afternoon. — Tight Lines! Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters, Missoula, Montana http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm 406-626-4022

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’d check on the water levels at Rock Creek first, if you mean THE Rock Creek East of Missoula.  The last report I heard was fishing could be over there for the season in the next week or so- water levels are way below normal – check with Doug at the Rock Creek Mercantile (406)825-6440 John Planning on Rock Creek, then to Libby, first week August.  Any info on the better campgrounds for us tent campers appreciated.  I was raised on Rock Creek, long, long ago– before electification.    Also info on guides in Libby for drifting, Also info on cabins, accomodations as well as campgounds (if it rains us out)   Al Schuh-fly

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Hi I am going to the flyfishing retailer show in Salt Lake City in mid September and want to go fishing for a couple of days. Can anyone recommend a good spot, and also a decent place to stay, not too expensive ($30 or so) Tight lines!

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The Provo River can fish well at times!!  The Green, but it is a bit of a drive. Good Luck, Forrest Forrest FlyFishingREVIEW.com Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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Try the Provo river supposed to be second only to the Green in Utah

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Two weeks ago the Provo was running to high to fish very well.  I think the Green would be best.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Try the Provo river supposed to be second only to the Green in Utah

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Get out a map. When I went to school in Provo an elephants age ago, we filled our freezer with Browns from the Spanish Fork, at the south end of Utah Valley, and in the creek off the highway that runs down into Helper and the Utah coal country. There is an "American Fork" toward the north end of the Valley, that used to be pretty good too. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Two weeks ago the Provo was running to high to fish very well.  I think the Green would be best. Try the Provo river supposed to be second only to the Green in Utah

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I’ve fished the Provo River twice, in the lower tailwater section. Lots of fish, mostly nymph fishing.  Good size fish. Beautiful scenery.   The Sept. 99 issue of Fly Fisherman has a comprehensive article on the Provo.   Steve Kling

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I live in Salt Lake City, Utah and have flyfished for years if you want info email me directly Mike Holtum

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’ve fished the Provo River twice, in the lower tailwater section. Lots of fish, mostly nymph fishing.  Good size fish. Beautiful scenery. The Sept. 99 issue of Fly Fisherman has a comprehensive article on the Provo. Steve Kling

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Can anyone recommend any winter fishing locations in WV? DCB

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Talk to Oakey at Cranberry Wilderness Outfitters in Fenwick.  I’ve fished with him before.  He told me of a few places. Thinking of calling him myself.  Sorry, don’t have the number with me.  The area code is 304. Good luck.

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Boca Paila and Casa Blanca have great permit, some Tarpon and  lotsa bones.  The bones are on the smallish side but you should get more chances a permit than in the Bahamas or Florida.  I’ve fished Boca Paila twice. Good folks.  Casa Blanca is just to the South of Boca Paila. Best day — 13 bones before lunch.   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me where is the best lodge to goto for BIG Permit & Bonefish? Robert Wong                        1993 Honda Civic Si Hatchback                                          Advanced Timing Visit My New & Improved Homepage  http://www.gate.net/~foxer           Atkid – 48 days – down 20

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A great, and less expensive alternative to fishing at Asencion Bay is the CUZAN GUEST HOUSE at $1450 per week, double occupancy. Contact me for more info.    Gene Kelly

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Bonefish? If you want really big permit, the biggest are found in Ascension Bay on the Yucatan Penninsula of Mexico (Carribean side).  There is currently a world record pending from the area.   I fished there in June and stayed at the Ascension Bay Bonefish Club (great place for small parties – no more than a max of 6).  Joe Sugura is an excellent host.  Did a lot of looking and almost no casting to permit (one cast 5 feet behind a permit as he left the area).  One of the guys that week took 5 permit the biggest being around 26 lbs.  On the last day my fishing partner got off about a dozen casts to two permit that were over 30 lbs ( if only I’d been on the other side of the boat!). Kaufmann’s book is way off in its description of permit fishing in the area.  They have a great picture in the lodge of a triple on Permit (this is real unusual). Bonefish are plentiful there, but not nearly so big as the singles and doubles you’ll find in florida.   They make up for it by traveling in schools.  Some beautiful flats fishing. Food was great by the way. You can contact them through Fishing International (1-800-950-4242).                                        Good Fishing,                                               Dan Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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Can anyone tell me where is the best lodge to goto for BIG Permit & Bonefish? Robert Wong                        1993 Honda Civic Si Hatchback                                          Advanced Timing Visit My New & Improved Homepage  http://www.gate.net/~foxer           Atkid – 48 days – down 20

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Can anyone tell me where is the best lodge to goto for BIG Permit & Bonefish? Robert Wong                        1993 Honda Civic Si Hatchback                                         Advanced Timing Visit My New & Improved Homepage http://www.gate.net/~foxer           Atkid – 48 days – down 20

I think the biggest permit are caught in southern Florida. They catch pretty nice ones in Ascension Bay, Yucatan, Mexico. I think the biggest average size for bones is in southern Florida and the Bahamas. They are both very difficult on a fly and I would recommend working your way up the ladder by fishing for more plentiful, smaller fish that are much easier to catch. Personally, that is what I have been doing for the past fifteen years. Call us and we can tell you about many flats destinations. 800/4000FLY William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA

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Any suggestions for good fly fishing in the Vernon, B.C  (Canada) area, will be visiting the area at the end of the month and wondered if there are any worthwhile spots, Cheers, Ken

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There are hundreds of *excellent* areas – far too numerous to mention.   Vernon is in the Okanagan Valley which is surrounded by plateaus, mountains, etc., containing some of the best Kamloops rainbow fishing anywhere.  Any local fishing shop will be able to give you lists of what is in the area you are going to/passing through.  But you will need to travel out of Vernon by 1-2 hours in order to reach most of them. Good Luck. Don

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: There are hundreds of *excellent* areas – far too numerous to mention.   : Vernon is in the Okanagan Valley which is surrounded by plateaus, : mountains, etc., containing some of the best Kamloops rainbow fishing : anywhere.  Any local fishing shop will be able to give you lists of what : is in the area you are going to/passing through.  But you will need to : travel out of Vernon by 1-2 hours in order to reach most of them. Some general ideas: 1. the area to the east of Kelowna, e.g. Dee or Beaver Lakes 2. the Thompson-Nicola plateau west of Kelowna, e.g Pennask, Hatheume, Headwaters, Logan etc Lakes 3. go east on the Monashee highway through Lumby and over to the Columbia and Kootenay watersheds; some possibilities might include Whatshan (sp) Lake, just north of the Fauquier/Needles ferry (west side) and Summit Lake, about a half-hour south of Nakusp on the road to New Denver 4. go north to Shuswap or Mara Lakes, or continue on to the Thompson at Kamloops 5. take the road (hiway 33?) between Kelowna and Rock Creek (via Beaverdell) and fish any section of the Kettle River that looks good (most of it will) 6. Go south to Vaseux Lake (between Okanagan Falls and Oliver) to fish the second-best bass lake (almost all LM’s) in BC; use a tube or canoe (no motors allowed) Most of these destinations, like Don says, are 1-2 hours from Vernon. Generally, the Okanagan does not boast a lot of stream fishing, but the lakes are pretty good. (born in Penticton Hospital and raised in Keremeos and Oliver) 3798 Woodland Drive     voice: (604) 368-9315 Trail, BC               data:  (604) 368-9341

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I recently had my 4-pc Sage 890 RPL replaced by Sage (with new blanks) because the finish was defective.  I had the blanks drop-shipped to the guy who made the first rod.  When he sent me the finished rod, he noted that the new "8-wt." had a huge butt section.  I got the rod back just as I was leaving for Belize, so i didn’t have a chance to look at it.   However, when I laid my rods out in the panga, I couldn’t tell the difference between the new 8-wt and my 4-pc 9-wt.RPLX.  The rod said 890 RPLB (B stood for blank, according to Sage).  I used the rod as an 8-wt for bones and truthfully can’t say if it was different from the original rod…other than the larger butt. Can anyone out there offer an explanation?  Sage told me to send them the rod, but I can’t do that as it is my favorite bassing rod at home (I’ll have to wait until the season ends). Adam

Hi Adam, The new RPL+’s have larger butts, faster action. Maybe you got the new one !! Great rod with power in the butt for more powerful casts. Dennis Grant Atlantic FLy Fishing SChool

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I recently had my 4-pc Sage 890 RPL replaced by Sage (with new blanks) because the finish was defective.  I had the blanks drop-shipped to the guy who made the first rod.  When he sent me the finished rod, he noted that the new "8-wt." had a huge butt section.  I got the rod back just as I was leaving for Belize, so i didn’t have a chance to look at it. However, when I laid my rods out in the panga, I couldn’t tell the difference between the new 8-wt and my 4-pc 9-wt.RPLX.  The rod said 890 RPLB (B stood for blank, according to Sage).  I used the rod as an 8-wt for bones and truthfully can’t say if it was different from the original rod…other than the larger butt. Can anyone out there offer an explanation?  Sage told me to send them the rod, but I can’t do that as it is my favorite bassing rod at home (I’ll have to wait until the season ends). Adam Hi Adam, The new RPL+’s have larger butts, faster action. Maybe you got the new one !! Great rod with power in the butt for more powerful casts. Dennis Grant Atlantic FLy Fishing SChool

Larger butts, power in the butt for more powerful cast…hmmmm…I need to get off this diet!

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I recently had my 4-pc Sage 890 RPL replaced by Sage (with new blanks) because the finish was defective.  I had the blanks drop-shipped to the guy who made the first rod.  When he sent me the finished rod, he noted that the new "8-wt." had a huge butt section.  I got the rod back just as I was leaving for Belize, so i didn’t have a chance to look at it.   However, when I laid my rods out in the panga, I couldn’t tell the difference between the new 8-wt and my 4-pc 9-wt.RPLX.  The rod said 890 RPLB (B stood for blank, according to Sage).  I used the rod as an 8-wt for bones and truthfully can’t say if it was different from the original rod…other than the larger butt. Can anyone out there offer an explanation?  Sage told me to send them the rod, but I can’t do that as it is my favorite bassing rod at home (I’ll have to wait until the season ends). Adam

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The best advice for the Beartooth is to be prepared for EVERYTHING and know where you are going.  It can and will snow up there at any time and will likely get down to the 40s at night (if not lower).  There are a couple of good sporting good stores in Red Lodge who will answer questions. P.S. If you ski — bring them as it is year round if you don’t mind hiking back up.  Have fun.

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Hello my name is Michael mitchell I currently attend Michigan State University and work in Yellowstone Nat. Park.  Some of the best Fishing for cutts can be found in the North east portion of the park.  just 15 min. from cook city Montana Ps. good food at Beartooth Cafe. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m doing a hike into the Bear Tooth range in Montana to do some fishing this august.. I’ve always wanted to hike into the high country and fish some of the alpine lakes.. i’ve heard this region is great.. I would appreciate any advice or talk on the area.. I don’t know what to expect for weather.. I was told that the region we’re going to is void of insect life except crickets.. keg

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