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Deep Cycle Battery Life

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I recently purchased a Mini Bass boat and a minn kota trolling motor with it, 35lbs of thrust, I boutght a 12v deep cycle battery as well. My question is, how much "life" can I expect out of the battery? if used sparingly during the day, 3 hours? 6 hours? 8 hours? I know it depends on a lot of things, but I’m looking for a ball park figure. Wondering if I should get  second as backup to take along. Other then that, fishing in Weymouth Mass was great this weekend lots of perch, but some pretty healthy largemouth. thanks in advance.

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If the minkota has the maximizer feature and it’s a group 27 or larger battery, expect to fish two days on it, anyway. I can do that no problem with my 50 thrust minkota on a 14-1/2 footer. RichZ

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Line » favorite leader and tipover material

favorite leader and tipover material

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Segar Grand Max is pretty hot right now.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – i like fluoracorbon material since the fish kant see it.  its expensive but works awsome.  have you ever perchased florocarbon from cabelas?  is it good.

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i like fluoracorbon material since the fish kant see it.  its expensive but works awsome.  have you ever perchased florocarbon from cabelas?  is it good.

Everyone I know whose fishing I respect uses the same old Maxima – reliable, strong, doesn’t get in a twist. LC — Lazarus Cooke

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i like fluoracorbon material since the fish kant see it.

If a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around, will berkeley hear it? (the bishop of Cloyne, not the tackle manufacturer in Iowa) Mu

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » Skeena and Kitimat

Skeena and Kitimat

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contact Marianne Woodcox of Venture Guiding. email Marianne lives in Kitimat and guides on the river.  you can also post your question at: http://www.anglingbc.com/discussion/index.html Marianne frequents this board. Tell her I referred you. RalphH – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I will be flyfishing the Skeena River system and the Kitimat River in British Columbia August 7-16.  Can anyone recommend flies or specific tributaries or other water in the Smithers to Terrace areas? Thanks in advance.  Please feel free to respond off list. Stack Scoville Remove "SPAM" to e-mail "If I have been able to see over the horizon, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants," Sir Isaac Newton

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I fished the area last October, went for Steelhead. Consider trying the Copper river (trib of Skeena just upstream from Terrace). It had the best run of Steelhead yet is fairly crowded as it is a ’smaller’ river than the others. Be advised that the Kitimat does not have a summer run of Steelies, just a winter run (if, in fact, you are going for Steelhead) which our "guide" (so-called, believe me) told us AFTER we were on the river. Purple was our best color, yet I can’t give you specific fly names for that area. — Tight Lines! Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters, Missoula, Montana http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm 406-626-4022

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I will be flyfishing the Skeena River system and the Kitimat River in British Columbia August 7-16.  Can anyone recommend flies or specific tributaries or other water in the Smithers to Terrace areas? Thanks in advance.  Please feel free to respond off list. Stack Scoville Remove "SPAM" to e-mail "If I have been able to see over the horizon, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants," Sir Isaac Newton

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I will be flyfishing the Skeena River system and the Kitimat River in British Columbia August 7-16.  Can anyone recommend flies or specific tributaries or other water in the Smithers to Terrace areas? Thanks in advance.  Please feel free to respond off list. Stack Scoville Remove "SPAM" to e-mail "If I have been able to see over the horizon, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants," Sir Isaac Newton

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Single foot guides and wood handles

Single foot guides and wood handles

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[stuff I agree with snipped] With the Fuji’s you don’t really lose anything over a conventional snake guide, but you pick up some advantages.

[more good stuff snipped], but… one thing about snake guides is that for a given "size", the hole is actually "bigger" than a comparably sized Fuji guide since the Fujis are closed circles and the snakes are helical. My experience is that knots and tangles more easily shake free through snakes than through Fujis.  However, with knots that have a tag end that sticks out a little, the snakes (since they are thin wires) tend to grab them more often than do the Fujis.   Mu

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I don’t know about wood grips outside of cork, but for guides, go with the Fuji ring guides.  I learned something this weekend that will help a bit even with them.  If you use 3 or more of the LSG-7J’s, make the one nearest the tip a UNSG-7J, on a 9′ rod use this guide for your last 2.  Also use an FST-7 tip.  These guides and tip are part of Fuji’s new concept line, and while the ring size remains unchanged, the ring height is lower, helping to bring the line closer to the blank in the last foot or so of the rod rather than all at once between the last guide and the tip.  The frame on the UNSG is also lighter than that of the LSG. If you want to use single leg wire guides, go for one that is coated rather than plated.  Plating will almost always peel, while coated (metal sprayed) guides should last quite a while.  There are many varieties of coatings available today and it’s a six of one, half a dozen of the other situation as to which is best.  As long as they come from a reputable source, you can choose for color and still get a great performing guide.  For salt water applications, I would go with a wire guide of some sort.  The insert guides will foul with salt buildup much quicker than wire guides. A good place for wood on a fly rod is in the reel seat.  For a 3 wt, a cork or wood seat with rings would be the thing to have.

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For salt water applications, I would go with a wire guide of some sort.  The insert guides will foul with salt buildup much quicker than wire guides.

I’ve heard that before.  I wonder why it’s so.  Is it just becasue there is greater surface area on a ceramic guide? Mu

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I’ve heard that same thing, but I’ve fished both types of guides quite a lot in salt water and have never found there to be much of a difference.  in either case, if salt DOES crust up on the guides, just swish it through the water back and forth a couple of times and it will be clear again. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For salt water applications, I would go with a wire guide of some sort.  The insert guides will foul with salt buildup much quicker than wire guides. I’ve heard that before.  I wonder why it’s so.  Is it just becasue there is greater surface area on a ceramic guide? Mu

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I am in the process of building my ulitmate lightweight rod and I have the ability to examine a few options I haven’t been able to afford in years past. I have never fished with a rod that has a wood handle but I like the look of the rods that are built with them.  Is Cocobolo or rosewood going to add significant weight to a 3 wt. rod compared to cork?  Any disadvantages to fishing with wood vs. cork handles?  Do they get uncomfortable after awhile? Next question.  I think I want to build this rod with single foot guides vs. double.  Again, I have never owned a rod with single foot guides.  The reduction in weight and the increased flexibility in the rod are attractive traits to gain.  What do I loose compared to a double foot guide? Last question.  I have had a fly shop owner try to tell me that the gold guides wear out a lot faster then the titanium coated guides.  Has anybody had first hand experience with this or was he just trying to sell me what he had vs. losing my buisness. Thanks

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– "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

I am in the process of building my ulitmate lightweight rod and I have the ability to examine a few options I haven’t been able to afford in years past. I have never fished with a rod that has a wood handle but I like the look of the rods that are built with them.  Is Cocobolo or rosewood going to add significant weight to a 3 wt. rod compared to cork?  Any disadvantages to fishing with wood vs. cork handles?  Do they get uncomfortable after awhile?

Complete wooden handles get slippery and difficult to hold very quickly, especially after handling fish or with wet hands. They also feel much colder to the touch, and the sensation of cold hands is very unpleasant after a while. Next question.  I think I want to build this rod with single foot guides vs. double.  Again, I have never owned a rod with single foot guides.  The reduction in weight and the increased flexibility in the rod are attractive traits to gain.  What do I loose compared to a double foot guide?

Basically some stability.  If you knock a single foot ring it will be more liable to slip than if you knocked a double foot ring. There is no appreciable increase in flexibility when using single foot as opposed to double foot rings.  The best rings for small lightweight fly-rods are probably snakes. Last question.  I have had a fly shop owner try to tell me that the gold guides wear out a lot faster then the titanium coated guides.  Has anybody had first hand experience with this or was he just trying to sell me what he had vs. losing my buisness.

Gold plated guides are useless, gold is a very soft metal, and will wear out in no time.  Titanium nitride is a gold coloured coating often used to protect HSS cutting surfaces. It is commonly used in industry for the tips of drill bits and similar tools as it is extremely tough and hard. Many modern guides have this protective coating.  Various oxides of metal are used as protective coatings for various metals, aluminium oxide for instance, among others. These vary in colour, but in the natural state are usually a dull grey. Many modern high performance guides have highly polished ceramic inserts made of sintered ceramic/metal oxide mixtures. Some snake rings are coated with special coatings, such as Titanium nitride for toughness and hardness. Practically any top quality guides from a reputable maker are suitable for fly-rods. Many people like the Fuji titanium guides or the gold cermets, which are expensive, but according to many people the best available. The URL is    http://www.fujitackle.com/eindex.html Further info is at :   http://www.mudhole.com/docs/fuji.html and  :   http://www.shofftackle.com/fujialum.html This should provide all the information you require. TL MC

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Wooden handles are also a lot heavier than cork handles. ( I forgot that in the previous post ).  Often a combination of hardwood and aluminium is used as a butt and reel seat, with cork as the grip. One other URL which might be of interest to you is : http://www.jannsnetcraft.com — "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

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Practically any top quality guides from a reputable maker are suitable for fly-rods. Many people like the Fuji titanium guides or the gold cermets, which are expensive, but according to many people the best available.

I use the Fuji’s (cermets) on my 5wt. They absolutely sing. Flexability isn’t necessarily the issue, it’s drag on the line. Fuji’s have much less drag than snake eyes. Flyfish

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I am in the process of building my ulitmate lightweight rod and I have the ability to examine a few options I haven’t been able to afford in years past. I have never fished with a rod that has a wood handle but I like the look of the rods that are built with them.  Is Cocobolo or rosewood going to add significant weight to a 3 wt. rod compared to cork?  Any disadvantages to fishing with wood vs. cork handles?  Do they get uncomfortable after awhile?

I wouldn’t advise the wooden handles.  I’m an avid woodturner as well as a flyfisherman, and I’ve tried to do this in the past.  Wooden handles are hard on the hands, tend to be slippery, and are cold in the winter.  They also have a tendency to absorb water and check/distort.  Lastly, they are rigid, which can be a problem, especially with slower action light rods.  A cork handle will flex with the blank, while a wooden handle will remain rigid and concentrate stress at the upper end of the handle where the blank exits. Next question.  I think I want to build this rod with single foot guides vs. double.  Again, I have never owned a rod with single foot guides.  The reduction in weight and the increased flexibility in the rod are attractive traits to gain.  What do I loose compared to a double foot guide?

This is a religious issue.  I build a lot of rods, and personally I prefer the Fuji single-foot guides.  I don’t recommend the "single-foot snake" guides that have shown up in the last few years, as I’ve found them to add little value and to be a bit fragile.   With the Fuji’s you don’t really lose anything over a conventional snake guide, but you pick up some advantages.  Among these are fewer wraps, which will reduce both time to build the rod and weight.  You also get better line control, improved shooting characteristics, and longer life from the guides.  Keep in mind, though, that’s my opinion – your mileage may vary. Last question.  I have had a fly shop owner try to tell me that the gold guides wear out a lot faster then the titanium coated guides.  Has anybody had first hand experience with this or was he just trying to sell me what he had vs. losing my buisness.

I’m not aware of a true "gold-coated" guide.  The golden colored guides that I’ve seen are plated with titanium nitride, which will substantially improve their wear resistance.  Personally, I tend to use Fuji’s solid titanium frame guides, with a silicon carbide insert ring.   They’re lighter than snake guides, and the titanium frames are virtually immune to corrosion – something to consider for extremely light rods or those that will be used in salt water environments. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Thanks

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I use the Fuji’s (cermets) on my 5wt. They absolutely sing. Flexability isn’t necessarily the issue, it’s drag on the line. Fuji’s have much less drag than snake eyes.

I’ll second that! They are bloody expensive, but I have Fuji cermet lined titanium framed rings on only three of my rods – the three that I use most. In future, I probably wouldn’t bother specifying Ti frames on the big butt stripping rings (or the next one up) since these guides are so far back down the rod and close to the rod hand that the few grammes saving in mass makes bugger all difference to anything. Tight Lines, Tony Deacon

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fishing Flies » Help with mounts, please, CANON/EOS/FL/FD

Help with mounts, please, CANON/EOS/FL/FD

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How about used Macro lenses…what could I get that would be relatively inexpensive and still provide the ability for an object about 1/4" to fill 35mm ? Thanks, again, very very much. — TimW

        anybody that uses canon equipment has *got* to be a fish-killin’, beer drinkin’ reprobate.         olympus rules!         email me with your detailed needs, buddy, and i will try to find something for you. happy thanksgiving! wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Tim, These will not fit an EOS mount.  I beleive you can get and FD/EOS adapter, however you lose all your metering functions – not a good thing eh! If you need bellows there are the Novaflex autobellows for EOS, you may have to hunt around for them second hand, I beleive that they are not cheap. Alternatively I use Hoya close-up filters on a 50mm 1.8 lens, these do a good job, you have to be very careful with your focusing and depth of field. Canon now actually make extension tubes for EOS – however I don’t know how much they cost, so you I can’t comment on them. Regards, AS

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: [deleted] : No. The mounts are completely different. FL and FD were the mounts used on : their pre-autofocus SLR cameras such as the FTb, F-1, and T-90. : Is there an adapter ? AutoFocus is unimportant and the TTL metering should : work regardless ? Pasted from my save file: Can any one refer me to some resources on the internet that explain the difference betwen Canon’s FD and EF Lenses?  I also would like to find out the compatibility issues of FD lenses with Canon EOS Cameras?

Canon EF lenses are autofocus (usually with manual focus capability); they fit Canon EOS camera bodies.  Aperture is 100% electronic and can only be set from the camera body.  EF lenses cannot be mounted on a F, A, or T series (FD) camera body; adapters are not available. Canon FD lenses are manual focus only; they fit on the older Canon F, A and T series camera bodies.  Aperture is set on the lens by turning a ring or placed on "A" (or "O") for automatic aperture setting.  FD lenses cannot be mounted on an EOS (autofocus) camera without an adapter. FD/EF adapters are either optical or macro.  Macro adapters will not allow the lens to focus to infinity.  Optical adapters made by Canon are useable only on certain expensive telephoto lenses.  Optical adapters made by 3rd parties are not noted for quality.  When FD lenses are used with any EF adapter, focus will be manual and metering must be performed manually with the lens stopped-down to the taking aperture. Dave Herzstein http://www.kjsl.com/~dave/index.html Bill Jameson

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You can probably achieve fair to good quality if your are careful with tripod mounted camera and close-up lens attachments  that are much cheaper than extension tubes and bellows.  Check with B&H in NY.

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For inexpensive macro shots with an EOS, get a set of independently-made extension tubes I can’t find these….what do I ask for ? What is the best I can hope for on this in terms of ‘magnification’ ?

Kenko is a brand name of some extension tubes.  There are others.  Look in the B&H ads in the mags.  Canon has there own set (more expensive.) Now, as far as ‘magnification’ is concerned, I hope you realize that you are delving into an area of photography where simple one line answers on USENET are not going to serve you well.  Suggest you start reading some books on macro photography. Magnification is a function of object distance (from lens), the focal length of the lens, and the image distance (from lens to film).  Change any one of these three and you will change the magnification.  As an experiment, pick up a plain ‘ol magnifying glass, and focus an image (let’s say from your monitor screen) onto the back of your hand.  Then walk a few feet away and try again.  You’ll notice that the image on your hand is smaller.  What you’ve done is change the object distance and observed the difference in size due to it. Magnification is defined as the image distance divided by the object distance.  Thus the closer you can get to an object the greater the magnification.  Conversely, if you can increase the image distance then you will also get greater magnification. What extension tubes accomplish is the latter.  They move the lens away from the film, thus increasing the magnification. A ring light would be a good light source for your photos of fishing flies. Could this still hook up through the shoe and provide TTL ?

Yes, there are ring lights that will work with EOS and still have TTL flash control. How about used Macro lenses…what could I get that would be relatively inexpensive and still provide the ability for an object about 1/4" to fill 35mm ?

Let’s see, a 35mm frame is 1.5” long, the item is 1/4" long, so the magnification required would be (1.5)/(1/4) = 6.  You are talking ‘real’ macrophotography, it IS NOT the stuff most people think about when they buy the so called 105mm ‘macro’ lenses!  You’d need the bellows unit, and a lens that could work with it.  Canon makes them.  There are third party items as well. Real macrophotography is very involved, and costs bucks. Canon publishes a "Macro" book; B&H has it listed for $18, I suggest you order it. BTW, Canon just came out with a special macro lens that can go to 5x, almost your requirement!  Expect to pay around $1050 for it.  The focal length is only 65mm though. -dan

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Thank you. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" B.M.P.I.A. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I saw a Canon Bellows for sale at Ebay.  It said FD/FL mount.  Will this fit an EOS ? No. The mounts are completely different. FL and FD were the mounts used on their pre-autofocus SLR cameras such as the FTb, F-1, and T-90. For inexpensive macro shots with an EOS, get a set of independently-made extension tubes and/or a reverse mount adapter for your normal lens. A ring light would be a good light source for your photos of fishing flies.

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[deleted] No. The mounts are completely different. FL and FD were the mounts used on their pre-autofocus SLR cameras such as the FTb, F-1, and T-90.

Is there an adapter ? AutoFocus is unimportant and the TTL metering should work regardless ? For inexpensive macro shots with an EOS, get a set of independently-made extension tubes

I can’t find these….what do I ask for ? What is the best I can hope for on this in terms of ‘magnification’ ? and/or a reverse mount adapter for your normal lens.

Again…the photo shop here in Podunk didn’t have this…at least not for the EOS…sources ?  I do have magnification filters (+1, +2, +4) and these work so-so…I’ve been putting them all together and just feel really cheesy about it. A ring light would be a good light source for your photos of fishing flies.

Could this still hook up through the shoe and provide TTL ? How about used Macro lenses…what could I get that would be relatively inexpensive and still provide the ability for an object about 1/4" to fill 35mm ? Thanks, again, very very much. — TimW

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I saw a Canon Bellows for sale at Ebay.  It said FD/FL mount.  Will this fit an EOS ? Does anybody have an extension tube/bellows or macro lens they could part with for a fair price ? Lights ? I’m trying to do some photographs of fishing flies for scanning and posting and am very much an amateur with a desire to do a good job. Thanks very much… — TimW

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I saw a Canon Bellows for sale at Ebay.  It said FD/FL mount.  Will this fit an EOS ?

No. The mounts are completely different. FL and FD were the mounts used on their pre-autofocus SLR cameras such as the FTb, F-1, and T-90. For inexpensive macro shots with an EOS, get a set of independently-made extension tubes and/or a reverse mount adapter for your normal lens. A ring light would be a good light source for your photos of fishing flies.

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Colorado info

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Hey you locals, Whats happening on the: Uncompagre (water flows at Ridgway, below the dam),  Taylor River– above and below the lake, and the Rio Grande around South Fork and Creede.  Thank you–   Schuh-fly

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this site has all those rivers http://www.dnr.state.co.us/water/flow/

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Hey you locals, Whats happening on the: Uncompagre (water flows at Ridgway, below the dam),  Taylor River– above and below the lake, and the Rio Grande around South Fork and Creede.  Thank you– Schuh-fly

Crowds. If you go to Ridgway the swim beach is your best bet this time of the year. — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…"

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Not if you go in the middle of the week. A surprising number of people in Montrose County actually work for a living. I should know-I used to be one and I might be again someday, once they finish cleaning up the sheriff’s office. There was also some good looking water on the Engineer Pass Road, but I didn’t stop to fish it. —–BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE—– Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBN5HHA8kBcsCVVLK5AQGqogP8DOh8hCDqWpR4owlxz0fBkqmG6oSxlXoZ Iq023kBmM4FxXuz5G7ILRfjJaIh8b6×613twdJDXXiwmx/13POqSLcu41nzobuGI WM1BDjw9X8IvwvGuFhhuj6vSFaxz8/o6AiHFHSqw84Z0m7qFLEV99C6WUZkitK8q zrMpIz7Ekvs= =mA+k —–END PGP SIGNATURE—– Mike S. Medintz : Website no longer functional. "God invented flyfishing so that old hippies wouldn’t take  over the world." -John Gierach

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If you go to Ridgway the swim beach is your best bet this time of the year. Not if you go in the middle of the week. A surprising number of people in Montrose County actually work for a living. I should know-I used to be one and I might be again someday, once they finish cleaning up the sheriff’s office.

I just can not believe how crowded the tailwater is though, even in the middle of the week.  A lot of folkes come over from GJ to fish it…it’s like the secret got out. Along those lines (letting the secret out) when we had a family camping trip at Ridgway years back a friend who is one of the best guides in the Valley had pretty much disappeared all weekend.  The one thing that’s kind of mandatory on these club outings is the saturday evening eat..well Mike missed it by three hours. His wife was pissed off, I’m here to tell ya man. It was a dark night and I sat with my non-pissed off wife on a picnic table slurping a Black Widow Stout we had bought in Ouray.  Mike comes up, about 1030, and he can’t talk…he sits down and just sits there all kind of wierd and stuff…he says…you should have seen it…I swear it was 18 pounds…. The beach is the best in the country for a screeming run down the sand hill and lunge for a football timing pass. Your pal, — TimW, Halfordian Golfer "A Cash Flow Runs Through It…" "Guilt replaced the creel…" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -There was also some good looking water on the Engineer Pass Road, but I didn’t stop to fish it. —–BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE—– Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBN5HHA8kBcsCVVLK5AQGqogP8DOh8hCDqWpR4owlxz0fBkqmG6oSxlXoZ Iq023kBmM4FxXuz5G7ILRfjJaIh8b6×613twdJDXXiwmx/13POqSLcu41nzobuGI WM1BDjw9X8IvwvGuFhhuj6vSFaxz8/o6AiHFHSqw84Z0m7qFLEV99C6WUZkitK8q zrMpIz7Ekvs= =mA+k —–END PGP SIGNATURE—– Mike S. Medintz : Website no longer functional. "God invented flyfishing so that old hippies wouldn’t take over the world." -John Gierach

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » River Fly Fishing » NEED MAILING ADDRESSES FOR ALL CLAVE ATTENDEES

NEED MAILING ADDRESSES FOR ALL CLAVE ATTENDEES

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        without regard to where you are staying, in or out of cabins, i need your mailing addresses, asap.  i know some of you have sent same earlier, but i am lazy, and need them organized in a single source.  in return you will receive an incredibly informative package concerning clave geography and itinerary, prepared at a nominal charge by the vast and efficient staff of little wayno’s outfitters (we never close).         thanks         for the firm         wayno

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        without regard to where you are staying, in or out of cabins, i need your mailing addresses, asap.  i know some of you have sent same earlier, but i am lazy, and need them organized in a single source.  in return you will receive an incredibly informative package concerning clave geography and itinerary, prepared at a nominal charge by the vast and efficient staff of little wayno’s outfitters (we never close).         thanks         for the firm         wayno

       http://www.rodbuilder.com  ______  Mr. George Gehrke / President                 Gehrke’s Fly Fishing Products                 Snake River – Hell’s Canyon                 Asotin, WA 99402                 509-243-4100 or 5500                 FAX-243-4644 Your place or mine?

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Wayno wrote :i need your mailing addresses, asap. Big Dale Dale Wilkinson 6533 Caddo Court Plano, Texas 75023-2902

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Rods » Novice & need stream & lake advice

Novice & need stream & lake advice

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I got a used rod from my dad who picked it up at a house auction and want to change from spin casting to fly fishing this spring. The rod is a 3pc bamboo ~9′ and was made by Union Hardware Co, Torrington, Conn. I can’t find any markings on it that would indicate the correct weight line, but am assuming 6-7 weight. I usually fish in small spring creeks & from a canoe paddling small lakes casting towards shore. Can i get away with 1 line? I was thinking of a slow sinking tip line. Can i use this rod for the type of fishing i do or should i purchase a 4- 5wt rod?  mark

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If you are only buying one line, get a floater. You can always use a neutral or slow sink leader but you can’t make a sinking line float properly. I don’t know much about bamboo rods but would have thought you would be better off with a carbon 5wt, probably 8 – 9 feet in length. — Regards Peter Kay (Remove "nospam" to email)

:I got a used rod from my dad who picked it up at a house auction and :want to change from spin casting to fly fishing this spring. : :The rod is a 3pc bamboo ~9′ and was made by Union Hardware Co, :Torrington, Conn. I can’t find any markings on it that would indicate the :correct weight line, but am assuming 6-7 weight. : :I usually fish in small spring creeks & from a canoe paddling small :lakes casting towards shore. Can i get away with 1 line? I was thinking :o f a slow sinking tip line. : :Can i use this rod for the type of fishing i do or should i purchase a 4- :5wt rod? : : mark

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I got a used rod from my dad who picked it up at a house auction and want to change from spin casting to fly fishing this spring. The rod is a 3pc bamboo ~9′ and was made by Union Hardware Co, Torrington, Conn. I can’t find any markings on it that would indicate the correct weight line, but am assuming 6-7 weight. I usually fish in small spring creeks & from a canoe paddling small lakes casting towards shore. Can i get away with 1 line? I was thinking of a slow sinking tip line. Can i use this rod for the type of fishing i do or should i purchase a 4- 5wt rod?  mark

Mark,    First, since you indicated that you need line, anyway, take your rod in to a good fly fishing shop and ask what weight line would be appropriate.   (You might save a few bucks at a K-Mart, but you’re going to need some good advice, which you aren’t likely to find there, and nothing is tackier than buying goods from a discount store and then going to a fly shop for advice on how to use it.)   Also, you can find out how much the rod you have is worth; some older bamboo rods are too valuable for a beginner to be fishing with.    Second, no, if I had only one line, it wouldn’t be a sinking tip.    For a novice, a double tapered floating line is almost mandatory.   You can fish nymphs and such with a floating, but you can’t fish a dry fly with a sinking tip, and I can’t even imagine fly fishing without fishing drys (about 90% of the fun, to me).    Third, since you’re a novice, I’d try out the rod before decideing on whether or not the rod you have is perfectly suited for your type of fishing. You can always ‘fine tune’ later, and will appreciate new and better equipment even more.   (I can still remember my first graphite after years of bamboo and fiberglass…ahhhhhhh!) Good luck, Max http://www.inetarena.com/~mwi

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Mark, I would agree with Peter with the floating line, but I would really say that perhaps you are approaching this problem a little backwards.  First determine what type of fish you are fishing for and under what are the typical conditions then select the correct equipment.  What type of fish are you going to be fishing for?  Are you going to typically stick to the lake? What type of insects are available on the lake or stream?  Do you want to fish streamers, dries or wets?  I would say that once you can answer these types of questions, then the answer of the flyline becomes quite obvious. Hope that wasn’t a long roundabout answer to your question. Dana – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I got a used rod from my dad who picked it up at a house auction and want to change from spin casting to fly fishing this spring. The rod is a 3pc bamboo ~9′ and was made by Union Hardware Co, Torrington, Conn. I can’t find any markings on it that would indicate the correct weight line, but am assuming 6-7 weight. I usually fish in small spring creeks & from a canoe paddling small lakes casting towards shore. Can i get away with 1 line? I was thinking of a slow sinking tip line. Can i use this rod for the type of fishing i do or should i purchase a 4- 5wt rod? mark

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Flies » Any tips for Bishop area?

Any tips for Bishop area?

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Hello everyone,         I am going to Bishop this weekend and I was wondering if anyone could give me any tips as to good places to try and flies to use. I would greatly appreciate size/pattern/color details if you supply them. Thank you in advance.                         Jeff

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Hello everyone,         I am going to Bishop this weekend and I was wondering if anyone could give me any tips as to good places to try and flies to use. I would greatly appreciate size/pattern/color details if you supply them. Thank you in advance.                         Jeff         The lower Owens river below the Res. right near town.  I forget the name of the lake, but there is some great dry fly fishing in the C&R area.  Small Elk hair Caddis (#14, 16), tan, brown, green bodies all work well if the fish are looking up…. JE

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Make sure to check on the flows of the Owens River before you go — they may be quite high, especially out of Pleasant Valley Res.  Check with one of the sporting good stores in town (or you can call the L.A. department of water and power in Bishop at 619/872-1104) and they will tell you what the best bets are regarding stream flows. I would also suggest driving about 1/2 hour north to the Mammoth area and fish Hot Creek — use anything small (caddis, mayflies,etc.) with extra long 6X-7X leaders and use some stealth.  I have heard that the flows there are pretty consistent right now.  Good luck.

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Flies » Dechutes in June?

Dechutes in June?

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I’m going to find myself in Oregon toward the end of June and plan to take a few days for fishing.  The only Rivers I know of are the Deschutes and the Umpqua.  Can anyone advise me on them?  Are they worth fishing in June?  Any steelhead that time of year?  What flies should I bring?  What rod?  Thanks in advance.

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I’m going to find myself in Oregon toward the end of June and plan to take a few days for fishing.  The only Rivers I know of are the Deschutes and the Umpqua.  Can anyone advise me on them?  Are they worth fishing in June?  Any steelhead that time of year?  What flies should I bring?  What rod?  Thanks in advance.

Fly fishing on The Deschutes is excellent in June for "Redsides" (Rainbows). The Salmon Fly hatch should be well under way and the little Yellow Stoneflies will be right after. Your fly box should hold some Stimulators, Bucktail and/or Elk Hair Caddis, PMD’s and a few nymphs like Pheasant Tails, Hare’s Ear, etc. Steelhead start up the river in July and continue through the end of the year with Aug – Sept. usually best. If you are interested in a guided trip, I fish the lower 20 miles of The Deschutes via Jet Boat and I have a Drift Boat guide that fishes all segments. Feel free to contact me for more info.

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