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dammit scott……. i hate these reports that remind me of my misspent youth. sannibel and captiva…. wonderful places… –waldo – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – After a longish start to a conference on neural control of motion on the Gulf Coast, I carved out an afternoon to spend the day with some dear on friends who now live on Sannibel Island. I drove the hour and fifteen minutes North, to be herded into a vehicle that immediately took me to Ding Darling preserve, where I fished for snook with local methods–  a spinning rod with hand sized live shrimp on the business end. Of course, it’s been so long since I’ve dealt with a spinning rod that my line hand kept reflexively picking up the monofil from the open bale.  Made a mess, but my friend really got a kick out of it-  he’ll be making fun of me for a long time.  Our approach was drive-by snooking, driving slowly along the road looking for snook.  We stopped at most water control structures, and avoided some good spots to avoid giving them away.  My friend fishes this area at least three days a week, and knows it like the back of his hand. Saw tons of mullet, which look like they’d be quite takable with a 3-5 weight and a scud.  Saw some large tarpon rolling.  Caught some snapper. Had to be careful about hooking the cormorants.  Not much snook available. Seems like we didn’t hit the tide right, but my time was limited, so we went anyway.  Had a beautiful day on the water, getting some sun, and catching up on a friendship gone by too long. Saw the park’s resident saltwater croc, the huge white pelican that is too old to migrate, some softshelled turtles (had to stop to assist one off the road), and some big birds with yellow feet that seemed quite impressive to those who pulled over to take pictures.  The island is like a jungle, just a beautiful place with large tracts of forever wild areas.  Highly recommend it.  Next time, I’ll bring a fly rod. Scott

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  a spinning rod with hand sized live shrimp on the business Scott guess no one will talk to you now SPINNING  ROD ??????

Forget the spinning rod!  HAND-SIZED shrimp tossed at snook?  Now that’s a waste of good food. Mu

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  a spinning rod with hand sized live shrimp on the business Scott guess no one will talk to you now SPINNING  ROD ??????

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After a longish start to a conference on neural control of motion on the Gulf Coast, I carved out an afternoon to spend the day with some dear on friends who now live on Sannibel Island.

Was that "deer on friends?"  Some cabalistic rites? I drove the hour and fifteen minutes North, to be herded into a vehicle that immediately took me to Ding Darling preserve, where I fished for snook with local methods–  a spinning rod with hand sized live shrimp on the business end.

Two vehicles, crammed into one space?  Ding Darling?  Is that some gay latino strip club? Tell me again, which end was up against a live shrimp? Our approach was drive-by snooking, driving slowly along the road looking for snook.

Drive by snooking.  Hey, we used to do that in L.A.! Saw some large tarpon rolling.

Big bamboo? Next time, I’ll bring a fly rod.

Hey, this IS a fly fishing group, ya moke! Scott

Sounds like a good trip.  Thanks for sharin’.  Will see you and Penns! Your resident smartass Frank Reid Reverse email to reply.

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  a spinning rod with hand sized live shrimp on the business Scott guess no one will talk to you now SPINNING  ROD ??????

Hey John– when in Rome….. Scott

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@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com: After a longish start to a conference on neural control of motion on the Gulf Coast, I carved out an afternoon to spend the day with some dear on friends who now live on Sannibel Island. Was that "deer on friends?"  Some cabalistic rites? I drove the hour and fifteen minutes North, to be herded into a vehicle that immediately took me to Ding Darling preserve, where I fished for snook with local methods–  a spinning rod with hand sized live shrimp on the business end. Two vehicles, crammed into one space?  Ding Darling?  Is that some gay latino strip club?

Frank– I said Sannibel, not Key West!! Tell me again, which end was up against a live shrimp?

Does your question have anything to do with some experience at a latino strip club??  :-) Our approach was drive-by snooking, driving slowly along the road looking for snook. Drive by snooking.  Hey, we used to do that in L.A.! Saw some large tarpon rolling. Big bamboo?

Nah, tarpon have tried that in the past, but they have a huge problem with canoeing, being at best half underwater and all.  Tarpon are thus largely on the straight and narrow, but not by choice.  They have been known to quickly enjoy margaritas, before the ice melts, of course, and being in salt water, they have no need for salt on the rim. Next time, I’ll bring a fly rod. Hey, this IS a fly fishing group, ya moke! Scott Sounds like a good trip.  Thanks for sharin’.  Will see you and Penns! Your resident smartass Frank Reid Reverse email to reply.

Yeah, see ya at Penns.  If it would ever stop snowing here, I’ll seam-seal my tent. Scott

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Hey John– when in Rome….. Scott OK BTW meeting went very well Program was outstanding, did you know Mike could not be there ?? I ran the meeting, you know when the cats away the mice will play, we had FUN

Glad to hear it.  I was a little worried about things when I bumped into Mike in the airport in Chicago!! Scott

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Hey John– when in Rome….. Scott

OK BTW meeting went very well Program was outstanding, did you know Mike could not be there ?? I ran the meeting, you know when the cats away the mice will play, we had FUN

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After a longish start to a conference on neural control of motion on the Gulf Coast, I carved out an afternoon to spend the day with some dear on friends who now live on Sannibel Island. I drove the hour and fifteen minutes North, to be herded into a vehicle that immediately took me to Ding Darling preserve, where I fished for snook with local methods–  a spinning rod with hand sized live shrimp on the business end. Of course, it’s been so long since I’ve dealt with a spinning rod that my line hand kept reflexively picking up the monofil from the open bale.  Made a mess, but my friend really got a kick out of it-  he’ll be making fun of me for a long time.  Our approach was drive-by snooking, driving slowly along the road looking for snook.  We stopped at most water control structures, and avoided some good spots to avoid giving them away.  My friend fishes this area at least three days a week, and knows it like the back of his hand. Saw tons of mullet, which look like they’d be quite takable with a 3-5 weight and a scud.  Saw some large tarpon rolling.  Caught some snapper.   Had to be careful about hooking the cormorants.  Not much snook available.   Seems like we didn’t hit the tide right, but my time was limited, so we went anyway.  Had a beautiful day on the water, getting some sun, and catching up on a friendship gone by too long. Saw the park’s resident saltwater croc, the huge white pelican that is too old to migrate, some softshelled turtles (had to stop to assist one off the road), and some big birds with yellow feet that seemed quite impressive to those who pulled over to take pictures.  The island is like a jungle, just a beautiful place with large tracts of forever wild areas.  Highly recommend it.  Next time, I’ll bring a fly rod. Scott

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—–BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—– Hash: SHA1 If only acid had done as much for me, I’d have done more than sample it a couple of times. Now I feel like a real dork. The only acid I’ve ever taken much interest in is the stuff that has me gobbling Tagamet whenever my wife sends out for pizza. Mike S. Medintz Burn, esophagus, burn!

You didn’t miss anything.  I’ve had as much fun looking at the inside of my eyelids without having taken anything more interesting than homogenized cow’s milk. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless remove invalid or hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If only acid had done as much for me, I’d have done more than sample it a couple of times. Now I feel like a real dork. The only acid I’ve ever taken much interest in is the stuff that has me gobbling Tagamet whenever my wife sends out for pizza. Mike S. Medintz Burn, esophagus, burn! You didn’t miss anything.  I’ve had as much fun looking at the inside of my eyelids without having taken anything more interesting than homogenized cow’s milk.

You weren’t doing it right. /daytripper (Trust me on this

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<snip re: acid You weren’t doing it right. /daytripper (Trust me on this

Trip, I like you and all, but if we’re ever at a clave and you tell me to trust you on something, I’m afraid I’m going to have to insist on driving. That acid indigestion’s a bitch when you’re trying to watch the road. Makes you see purple lizards and shit like that. – — Linux: Because I like it when my computer actually works —–BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE—– Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8O9iXkciOs8eNXDMRAuqzAKCSNnDitg3ny386MWd8B4FyNXUCWgCfaWoU 9lUI5m8FwvxTSX9bv14WZSI= =SmTC —–END PGP SIGNATURE—–

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ——BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—– Hash: SHA1 <snip re: acid You weren’t doing it right. /daytripper (Trust me on this Trip, I like you and all, but if we’re ever at a clave and you tell me to trust you on something, I’m afraid I’m going to have to insist on driving. That acid indigestion’s a bitch when you’re trying to watch the road. Makes you see purple lizards and shit like that.

Sounds fair, but the real tip will be when I say "Watch this!" /daytripper (Living On The Edge)

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Sounds fair, but the real tip will be when I say "Watch this!" /daytripper (Living On The Edge)

My experience goes more like, "Hey, check this out"

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Ed Muskie on acid. -Fear and loathing on the fly-fishing trail

If only acid had done as much for me, I’d have done more than sample it a couple of times. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless remove invalid or hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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Ed Muskie on acid. -Fear and loathing on the fly-fishing trail If only acid had done as much for me, I’d have done more than sample it a couple of times.

Well, speaking just for me (and, well, for Raoul, Ed, and a host of other characters of an imaginary nature, by default), I’ve always found that an interesting assortment of friends and acquaintances lead to more interesting "trips" than the recreational use of pharmaceutical chemicals.  I’ve never put any real stock in drugs, nor had any real interest in them.  That said, I don’t begrudge other adults their usage (either morally or legally), and in fact, having friends that do so in the aforementioned assortment can be both inspirational and instructional.  Besides, me on acid, etc. would likely result is nothing but a very long one-word sentence of vowels – sort of a Polish Julie Andrews song…. TC, R whose holiday messages ran the gamut from folks such as VERY gay West End (English) theater types (yes, I do see the redundancy) to those who make ol’ Rush look like the former…

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Is this "Muskie"?  (for filter purposes)

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Is this "Muskie"?  (for filter purposes)

Reliable sources tell me it’s not THAT Muskie, the tree-hugging Bush hater, but a parody of another famous Muskie (the self-hugging Nixon hater).  However those same reliable sources also tell me that he probably won’t be posting much to ROFF (and certainly no articles on how Bush, et al, are responsible for everything from the Crusades to the making of "Freddy Got Fingered"…) HTH, TC, R

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I’m not sure that many roffians read that book, judging from the total lack of response to the Ed Muskie on acid comment. It just reminded how funny that book was. I need to go down to the basement, dig it out and give it another read. HST

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Is this "Muskie"?  (for filter purposes)

If it is, he’s, happily, returned to his old ways.  More or less his amusing trolling style.  I’d advise not filtering unless it goes political.  Unless you don’t like an occasional chuckle or gag (it can trigger that reflex once in a while).  If it’s someone else, well, good for them. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless remove invalid or hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is this "Muskie"?  (for filter purposes) If it is, he’s, happily, returned to his old ways.  More or less his amusing trolling style.  I’d advise not filtering unless it goes political.  Unless you don’t like an occasional chuckle or gag (it can trigger that reflex once in a while).  If it’s someone else, well, good for them.

Well, I think it’s actually the ghost of ol’ Tricky Dick his ownself, haunting Donald Segretti’s Palm Pilot….or Ben Bradlee’s WebTV… A. Gordon Haig

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….At the most inopportune moment, there appeared a slack-jawed rentacop, and threatened to spray Brian with pepper spray unless he put down the hapless clerk.  Before I could explain the perilous nature of such an ill-advised action, we – the clerk, Tricky, the rentacop, and your author – were awash in noxious fumes.  Any hope to a civil resolution is, at this point, non-existent, and also of course, Brian, who is used to such pedestrian attempts, is completely unfazed.  Well, perhaps "unfazed" is not completely accurate, because it seems to have a wholly-unintended effect.  He proceeded to hurl the now-wailing technoweasel at the wide-eyed rentacop.  Surprisingly, for a person in such a position and of such girth, the rentacop was apparently not used to catching screaming people.   At this point, Tricky started yelling something about "that prick Lyndon" and "agent orange," which, it goes without saying, provided no measure of stability to a situation turning more dangerous by the minute.  I decided that quick, decisive action was not only called for, but urgently needed.  Normally, a round or two into a handy ceiling from the Magnum would have shocked everyone not in our party into stunned inaction, and we could have made a hasty retreat. However, the current political climate makes the use of firearms, even when used strictly for effect, a rather dicey proposition, so I demurred from that course.  I decided instead to play it straight.  I began to demand to see management, and for a phone to call Johnny Cochran. A slightish young man, who appeared scared shitless, presented himself.  He introduced himself as "Skip Skipperson, the assistant to the manager’s assistant," and I quickly determined that my chosen course was the right one.  "What do you mean by hiring fiends with nerve gas to assault customers," I bellowed, about 6 inches from Skip’s face, which was now that very pale shade of grey-green that told me Skip had likely soiled himself.  "Urga-nish-dint-naw-load," gurgled Skip.  This was our moment.  I told Brian to grab Tricky, and we beat it out of there, post-haste.   Experience has taught me that departure at such a moment will result, by the time the principles are debriefed, and everyone gives their version, exactly as it happened, with the composites assembled into a profile, in a distinct advantage being gained.  The constabulary will be busy looking for 2 Black Panthers, a drag queen, Martha Stewart, and a large, ill-described bovine called "Samuel." While our departure was successful and without further incident, I was still no closer to the original goal: that of replacing the world-worn Nikon.  We proceeded to another store, ignoring Brian’s protests and Tricky’s mumbling about "little yeller bastards"….

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Ed Muskie on acid. -Fear and loathing on the fly-fishing trail

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ….At the most inopportune moment, there appeared a slack-jawed rentacop, and threatened to spray Brian with pepper spray unless he put down the hapless clerk.  Before I could explain the perilous nature of such an ill-advised action, we – the clerk, Tricky, the rentacop, and your author – were awash in noxious fumes.  Any hope to a civil resolution is, at this point, non-existent, and also of course, Brian, who is used to such pedestrian attempts, is completely unfazed.  Well, perhaps "unfazed" is not completely accurate, because it seems to have a wholly-unintended effect.  He proceeded to hurl the now-wailing technoweasel at the wide-eyed rentacop.  Surprisingly, for a person in such a position and of such girth, the rentacop was apparently not used to catching screaming people. At this point, Tricky started yelling something about "that prick Lyndon" and "agent orange," which, it goes without saying, provided no measure of stability to a situation turning more dangerous by the minute.  I decided that quick, decisive action was not only called for, but urgently needed.  Normally, a round or two into a handy ceiling from the Magnum would have shocked everyone not in our party into stunned inaction, and we could have made a hasty retreat. However, the current political climate makes the use of firearms, even when used strictly for effect, a rather dicey proposition, so I demurred from that course.  I decided instead to play it straight.  I began to demand to see management, and for a phone to call Johnny Cochran. A slightish young man, who appeared scared shitless, presented himself.  He introduced himself as "Skip Skipperson, the assistant to the manager’s assistant," and I quickly determined that my chosen course was the right one.  "What do you mean by hiring fiends with nerve gas to assault customers," I bellowed, about 6 inches from Skip’s face, which was now that very pale shade of grey-green that told me Skip had likely soiled himself.  "Urga-nish-dint-naw-load," gurgled Skip.  This was our moment.  I told Brian to grab Tricky, and we beat it out of there, post-haste. Experience has taught me that departure at such a moment will result, by the time the principles are debriefed, and everyone gives their version, exactly as it happened, with the composites assembled into a profile, in a distinct advantage being gained.  The constabulary will be busy looking for 2 Black Panthers, a drag queen, Martha Stewart, and a large, ill-described bovine called "Samuel." While our departure was successful and without further incident, I was still no closer to the original goal: that of replacing the world-worn Nikon.  We proceeded to another store, ignoring Brian’s protests and Tricky’s mumbling about "little yeller bastards"….

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Hi All, We went to BC last week and the water was high because they have had a lot of  unusual rain the past month or so. I had a customer by that lives in Great Falls, MT and he said they were in a draught? What is happening out your way? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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My favorite rivers flooded last week, so we fished bluegills and went out for draughts afterwards (BBC Pale Ale – heavy on the Cascade hops this summer).  Definitely no drought in Massachusetts this year.  It hasn’t hit 90 degrees (F) in over a month.

Raining like heck in Juneau, Alaska and it hasn’t hit 90 degrees since we’ve been keeping records.

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It is still hot in Dallas. Duh!! remember we are not all that far from Wichita Falls which has the claim of one of the most appropriately named bicycle races in a few weeks, The Hotter Than Hell 100. Lake Lewisville is still over 13 feet low. Big Dale .

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My favorite rivers flooded last week, so we fished bluegills and went out for draughts afterwards (BBC Pale Ale – heavy on the Cascade hops this summer).  Definitely no drought in Massachusetts this year.  It hasn’t hit 90 degrees (F) in over a month.

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What is happening out your way?

Serious drought in Georgia. — Charlie…

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Wet and cool in Ontario – all of the rivers are high and we’ve had a few floods. Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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What is happening out your way?

reporting from north carolina:         it’s been a great year for bermuda grass.  the golf course fairways are lush and green.  of course, i live in paradise.  in fact, there is a little town about 20 miles northwest of here by the name of "eden". wayno

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Hi All, What is happening out your way?

Big Dale covered the DFW area (hotter’n hell, 11 or 12 days over 100, and dry) and it was hot (mid 90s), with a little rain in Orlando area, raining to beat all hell on the MS/AL Gulf Coast, particularly Mobile. TC, R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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Well, in Ohio farmers are expecting exceptional corn crops…….spring rains have been the pits. Of course this is smallmouth bas country which is some fine fishing.  This spring as the fishing started to heat up we began having rains.  Oh, you could find a place to fish but my usual haunts were high and muddy.  About the time you thought you could go fishing tomorrow, put a hurtin on me. So for a month I was unable to fish….and this while the wife and little girl were out of town.  By the time the water was fishable again, boom, summer was here….algae, green water the whole bit. Early morning and late evening were the ticket….I just missed out on a whole spring of fishing…….john – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, We went to BC last week and the water was high because they have had a lot of  unusual rain the past month or so. I had a customer by that lives in Great Falls, MT and he said they were in a draught? What is happening out your way? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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Lotta Summer rain here in Maryland.  Some of the stockies are still around, as the rain has kept the rivers cool.  Temp was in the 70s yesterday.  Nebraska on the other hand is in draught and its sizzlin’ hot in the 100s.        Frank Reid Before you buy.

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 in fact, there is a little town about 20 miles northwest of here by the name of "eden".

When I lived in Kansas I used to fish by a little town named ‘Climax’ not far from ‘Eureka’. — Charlie…

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 in fact, there is a little town about 20 miles northwest of here by the name of "eden". When I lived in Kansas I used to fish by a little town named ‘Climax’ not far from ‘Eureka’. — Charlie…

        "climax" is about 15 miles southeast.  in the nether regions, one might say. wayno

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 in fact, there is a little town about 20 miles northwest of here by the name of "eden". When I lived in Kansas I used to fish by a little town named ‘Climax’ not far from ‘Eureka’. — Charlie…

Not far from Friends University, I take it? <G R

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When I lived in Kansas I used to fish by a little town named ‘Climax’ not far from ‘Eureka’. — Charlie…

  When I lived in Nebraska and owned a 90 hp Super Cub, my flying buddy and I talked about establishing a record for the quickest time in a Super Cub on a flight from Colon, Nebraska to Athol, Kansas:) Bob Skinner   Buffalo, WY — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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Ya’ll keep your pre-verted towns away from the home of my dear, sainted mother.  She lives in Virgin, UT.  As a matter of fact, I was jus’ thinkin’.  There’s this lady, lives down the street, name’s Mary.  Then again, she CAN’T be that Mary, ’cause she moved up from Las Vegas.    Virgin is the only place in the world with an actual Virgin Recycling Center.                       Frank Reid Before you buy.

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The trout in Northern California are plentiful and in great condition after four years of good rain and snowfall.  River runoff has reduced to the point where dry fly fishing is good and will remain that way for the rest of the year.  This is the year for those 100 trout days. Ernie

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Not far from Friends University, I take it?

About 75mi (or so) east of Friends University of Central Kansas<g. (not the officially sanction name of the school). — Charlie…

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   "climax" is about 15 miles southeast.  in the nether regions, one might say.

Ah, you’ve been there<g. — Charlie…

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What is happening out your way?

Its looking like drought in CO.  Streams not controlled by dam releases are running quite low and warm, at least on the eastern slope.  Hopefully at least some of the fish will survive.

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Up here in the Lakes District it has been raining off and on all summer. The last 5 days or so it’s been sunny. I haven’t been to any rivers in a couple of weeks just fishing the lake so I can’t say how they are. One plus though if the water is high it usually brings record runs for the fall.             Ian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Hi All, We went to BC last week and the water was high because they have had a lot of  unusual rain the past month or so. I had a customer by that lives in Great Falls, MT and he said they were in a draught? What is happening out your way? — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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What is happening out your way?

I have only been able to fly fish our local river on two occasions in the last three months becasue it’s so muddy.  We watered the lawn only once this entire summer.  Not flood per se, but steady precipitation. Mu

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What is happening out your way? I have only been able to fly fish our local river on two occasions in the last three months becasue it’s so muddy.  We watered the lawn only once this entire summer.  Not flood per se, but steady precipitation. Mu

Today, will be (provided we don’t get rain) the  144th consecutive day without measurable precipitation in Las Vegas – Going for the record of 150 set in 1950!  So I guess you could say that we are having a drought.  BUT!  20 minutes after it starts raining, we will be in a flood.  I normally fish in Utah – about 3 hours north of here.  Creeks and ponds in that area are near or at record lows.  Fire danger is rated at Extreme+.  

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What is happening out your way? In The Southern Tier of Vermont,  We had three months of nearly

continuous rains.  The rivers and streams were quite high and not very fishable.  This has settled quite a bit in the past month and the fishing is the best that it has been in my experiance. There has been a fairly steady Sulfur hatch and #10 & #12 sulfers are highly reliable and productive. The Trout are very numerous, well distributed, and in excellent health.   They are deep, broad, and remarkably brightly colored.  They are also guite long winded, makeing for some outstandingly long fights.  Some of the jumps are spectacular. The health of the fisheries is probably due to higher than average streamflows. In fact, fishermen should be extra aware of the weather. Because of the high water table, flash flooding can be an important consideration.  You want to be sure that you leave yourself a ready escape if you are fishing in the rain. If it has rained, the rivers and streams will be high for a couple of days.  The best times to fish are when the water has cleared and receded some.  Evening is the best time, with the last hour of light being the peak time.   So, just choose a water and hang on!                                     Mike Don’t forget to let them go.

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I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these? Thanks for any help. Simon

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I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these? Thanks for any help. Simon

Check out the St Croix Imperial 4 pc 5/6 or 6/7. Either one will set you back $150 and well worth the price. Frank Church Elkhart, IN

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Yes.   Check out Fenwick.  I own a FF756-4 that’s 4 piece glass 6 weight.  Comes with a nice bag and case for $100.  but you might think about the GFS70ML-4 HMG graphite spin-fly rod at $115. Buena suerte, Lou Lampe

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Simon, I bought an 8wt from http://www.brazosflyfishers.com/ Lauren and her husband were wonderful at helping i the selection.  I highly recommend these nice folks. Cheers, Mitch – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these? Thanks for any help. Simon

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What ever you decide, may I suggest that you cast the rod before buying. Having been at this game for 60 plus years, I still think that the biggest mistake that people make is buying by brand name rather than choosing the rod that complements their casting style. Best of luck. J.

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I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these? Thanks for any help. Simon

Hi, Not all the Cortland CL 4 piece rods cast well. The 8′ #4/5 with a #5 and the 8′6" #4/5 with a #5 both are pretty good for $110 with an aluminum tube. You might also try the 8′6" #5/6 with a #6 line. The 9′ #5/6 and the 9′ #6/7 are both pretty ‘cluby’ or ‘boardy’. St. Croix has some pretty good 4 piece rods at around $150. They come in 9′#5/6 and 9′#6/7 in 4 piece with a Cordura covered plastic tube. If you can get up to the $200 to $300 range, Sage, Loomis, Scott and T&T have some real great casting 3 and 4 piece rods that are lighter than the Cortland, St. Croix or Redington. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these? Thanks for any help. Simon

I recently bought a St. Croix Imperial 9′ 5/6 4pc rod and highly recommend it. It cost $150. Not sure how that compares to the price on the Cortland.

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I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these?

Fsihed a demo Redington Red Start 5/6 wgt yesterday – a great rod for the $$$. Rod, reel, line, backing & leader, plus jazzy hard case that holds rod w/mounted reel only $199 (with lifetime guarantee). My regular rod is a Sage,  but I liked the Redington a lot. Try one! Kent Edmonds Flyfishing West Georgia & Beyond http://kje.home.mindspring.com

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look at st croix. their imperial line has nice 4 pc rods for about $130. I’ve got a 4/5 which i like a lot, though it casts better as a 5 than a four. I’ve never had any problem taking it on planes either. gc – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these? Fsihed a demo Redington Red Start 5/6 wgt yesterday – a great rod for the $$$. Rod, reel, line, backing & leader, plus jazzy hard case that holds rod w/mounted reel only $199 (with lifetime guarantee). My regular rod is a Sage,  but I liked the Redington a lot. Try one! Kent Edmonds Flyfishing West Georgia & Beyond http://kje.home.mindspring.com

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I own a Cortland and LOVE it . I have compared it to a Reddington and there is no comparison for the money,the Reddington is a cheap looking rod with the guides just tacked on , the cork looks bad , no winding check and so on . KW – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these? Fsihed a demo Redington Red Start 5/6 wgt yesterday – a great rod for the $$$. Rod, reel, line, backing & leader, plus jazzy hard case that holds rod w/mounted reel only $199 (with lifetime guarantee). My regular rod is a Sage,  but I liked the Redington a lot. Try one! Kent Edmonds Flyfishing West Georgia & Beyond http://kje.home.mindspring.com

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I’m looking to buy an economical 4-piece 6 wt fly rod. Does anyone have recommendations? I see Cortland does one, the CL series. Does anyone have experience with these?

I recently was given a Redington 5wt 9′ and it is truly a great rod to work with light action and amazing to use.. it is like a divining rod in your hands learn to use it properly and you cannot go wrong plus the lifetime guarantee is another great part of the bargain, Pierre

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look at st croix. their imperial line has nice 4 pc rods for about $130. I’ve got a 4/5 which i like a lot, though it casts better as a 5 than a four. I’ve never had any problem taking it on planes either.

I recently looked at both the Redington RedStart and the St. Croix Imperial in a 5/6 weight at the local fly shop.  Went in with St. Croix as my intended choice because my current rod is a St. Croix Pro Graphite (operating on the principle of "My mind is made up – stop confusing me with facts" .  The guy in the shop encouraged me to cast both of ‘em using the same line & reel.  Wound up getting the Redington.  I found the Imperial was softer than I’m comfortable with, or conversely that I just liked the feel of the RedStart better.  I recommend that you cast at least a couple different rods before you make your choice.  Even if the rod you find you like best costs 20 bucks more, well…20 bucks isn’t much to pay to be happy, and it’s not much to have in your pocket if you’re not happy.  Your mileage may vary. — Bob Jarvis Mail address hacked to foil spammers!

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i need help with rigging leadcore line! how do you it? i know downriggers are the better way to go, maybe next season. am taking my boat to the sierras this weekend…reply direct!

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i need help with rigging leadcore line! how do you it? i know downriggers are the better way to go, maybe next season. am taking my boat to the sierras this weekend…reply direct!

Hi Joe, I would recommend a level wind reel like a Penn 9 or Penn 109 for 100 yards of lead core. A Penn 209 will hold 200 yards of lead core for real deep fishing. After you install the lead core on the reel, I would pull out about 1 inch of lead from the inside of the braided line. Put a needle about 1 inch up inside the line an push it out through the side making a hole. After this you can take a 30 foot piece of 15 pound mono and put it up inside the braided skin of the lead core and then out through the side. Then make a barrel, blood or snell knot over the outside of the line. On the end of the 30 feet of 15 pound mono you then attach you trolling blades. Then attach about 2 to 3 feet of 6 to 8 pound mono with you fly, worm or spoon on the end. Get two rigs the same so they will both be rotating together at the same speed. The fish are shallower in the morning and evening and deeper in the daytime. They are also shallower in the fall, winter and spring and deeper in the mid summer. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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i need help with rigging leadcore line! how do you it? i know downriggers are the better way to go, maybe next season. am taking my boat to the sierras this weekend…reply direct!

Exactly what is your question? How to fish with it? load it on the reel?

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i need help with rigging leadcore line! how do you it? i know downriggers are the better way to go, maybe next season. am taking my boat to the sierras this weekend…reply direct!

Typically you rig lead core with a 50 foot leader of mono, Spiderwire, or Fireline.  On a trolling reel or large baitcaster, you spool up enough leadcore for your needs then you can tie the leadcore to your 50 foot leader.   Rather than just tying the two together, many people like to tie the two together wil a small barrell swivel.  Just make sure the barrell swivel is strong enough. If your looking to run your lines deeper and don’t want to use downriggers yet, there are other options besides using leadcore. Leadcore certainly works and has it’s place.  However  another option is to use Dipsey Divers or similar devices.  A second option is to use the Snap Weights from Off Shore Tackle that clip onto your line.  It all depends on the fishing your doing, however, if it was myself, I’d prefer using Dipseys or Snap Weights over lead core in most cases. If you want any more info feel free to send me some e-mail. Good Fishin’ Don Mutsch

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I’m going to try shad fishing this year in Mass.  Any recommendations for flies to tie?   Any other tips would also be appreciated.   _Rich_

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  I’m going to try shad fishing this year in Mass.  Any   recommendations   for flies to tie?   Any other tips would also be appreciated.     _Rich_ Last year at the Merrimack River I had good luck with small clousers.  I can’t honestly say I was trying to catch just shad, but that’s what took the fly.  The most important aspect of this type of fishing is getting the fly down to where the fish are, any fly reasonably close in imitation will work as long as it gets down to the fish.  In a strong current you’re going to need a weighted line such as a Teeny 350, let the current and the line do the work for you. Don

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Last year at the Merrimack River I had good luck with small clousers.  I can’t honestly say I was trying to catch just shad, but that’s what took the fly.  The most important aspect of this type of fishing is getting the fly down to where the fish are, any fly reasonably close in imitation will work as long as it gets down to the fish.  In a strong current you’re going to need a weighted line such as a Teeny 350, let the current and the line do the work for you. Don

I’ve been shad fishing the past two weekends on the Roanoke River in NC and have had the best success with 2-1/0 white/yellow clousers.  Everyone says to go small(6-4), but I did much better with the larger flies.  Granted, these are Hickory shad, but they did seem to prefer the larger fly.  I also had a lot of success with a gold or silver ’spoon’  fly(braided mylar coated with epoxy). The visibility in the Roanoke hasn’t been great, and they really seemed to like the flash.  -William Ivey   Raleigh, NC

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DEAR JIM: There is a remarkable difference in staying power between soft and weak southern strains of bass compared to damned yankee bass found in Lake Erie or let us say in Wisconsin, etc.  A lot of it has to do with oxygen content but overall, southern bass on the average are soft and mushy fleshed.  Many other fishermen have noticed this also.  So if you’re going to make a choice, go north where the real fighting bass hang out. — George Gehrke/President Gehrke’s World’s Best Fly Fishing Products Asotin, WA 99402 509-243-4100  FAX 4644

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…..and while this is probably just my imagination George, it has always seemed to me that bass that hang out in rivers are stronger fighters than those that fin lazily in lakes…..for pure excitement, a river smallie that slams your topwater bug would be hard to top!   Regards, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – DEAR JIM: There is a remarkable difference in staying power between soft and weak southern strains of bass compared to damned yankee bass found in Lake Erie or let us say in Wisconsin, etc.  A lot of it has to do with oxygen content but overall, southern bass on the average are soft and mushy fleshed.  Many other fishermen have noticed this also.  So if you’re going to make a choice, go north where the real fighting bass hang out. — George Gehrke/President Gehrke’s World’s Best Fly Fishing Products Asotin, WA 99402 509-243-4100  FAX 4644

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overall, southern bass on the average are soft and mushy fleshed.  Many other fishermen have noticed this also.  So if you’re going to make a choice, go north where the real fighting bass hang out.

Ahhhh, but George, everyone wants that ten pound HAWG!  And to get a HAWG you have to go south.  No one really seems to care that it will wallow in the mud and then show its belly like its namesake!  Can’t tell how hard a fish fought by looking at a picture! Hell, here in California we can’t even say HAWG, properly… Not even in southern California!

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overall, southern bass on the average are soft and mushy fleshed.  Many other fishermen have noticed this also.  So if you’re going to make a choice, go north where the real fighting bass hang out. Ahhhh, but George, everyone wants that ten pound HAWG!  And to get a HAWG you have to go south.  No one really seems to care that it will wallow in the mud and then show its belly like its namesake!  Can’t tell how hard a fish fought by looking at a picture! Hell, here in California we can’t even say HAWG, properly… Not even in southern California!

____YOU make me smile! Thanks Mr. G. — George Gehrke/President Gehrke’s World’s Best Fly Fishing Products Snake River – Hell’s Canyon Asotin, WA 99402 / 509-243-4100  FAX 4644

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In California we can say"hawg" in Lake Co.The state record largemouth is over 18 lbs. caught in Hidden Valley reservoir. The reservoir is planted with pure strain Fla. largemouth and may only be fished with permission of a landowner from the surrounding gated community.

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So you say you want bass, eh? Want some really fiesty bass? Not huge hawgs like you get in the southern US, but the smallmout bass here in Ontario are awesome. Get yourself up around Georgian Bay and bring some smallish poppers, nymphs, wooley buggers, crayfish imitations, etc. and hang on. I use a 6 wt 9 foot rod and I am in heaven. but just tell me when to show up! — George Gehrke/President Gehrke’s World’s Best Fly Fishing Products Snake River – Hell’s Canyon Asotin, WA 99402 / 509-243-4100  FAX 4644

Hi George I agree, the smallmouth is one of the hardest fighting fish pound for pound I’ve ever caught. Also there are a few in the Snake river near someone I know but shhh! I’ll never say where. Good tying &… — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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So you say you want bass, eh? Want some really fiesty bass? Not huge hawgs like you get in the southern US, but the smallmout bass here in Ontario are awesome. Get yourself up around Georgian Bay and bring some smallish poppers, nymphs, wooley buggers, crayfish imitations, etc. and hang on. I use a 6 wt 9 foot rod and I am in heaven.

but just tell me when to show up! — George Gehrke/President Gehrke’s World’s Best Fly Fishing Products Snake River – Hell’s Canyon Asotin, WA 99402 / 509-243-4100  FAX 4644

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overall, southern bass on the average are soft and mushy fleshed.  Many other fishermen have noticed this also.  So if you’re going to make a choice, go north where the real fighting bass hang out. Ahhhh, but George, everyone wants that ten pound HAWG!  And to get a HAWG you have to go south.  No one really seems to care that it will wallow in the mud and then show its belly like its namesake!  Can’t tell how hard a fish fought by looking at a picture! Hell, here in California we can’t even say HAWG, properly… Not even in southern California!

So you say you want bass, eh? Want some really fiesty bass? Not huge hawgs like you get in the southern US, but the smallmout bass here in Ontario are awesome. Get yourself up around Georgian Bay and bring some smallish poppers, nymphs, wooley buggers, crayfish imitations, etc. and hang on. I use a 6 wt 9 foot rod and I am in heaven.

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DEAR JIM: There is a remarkable difference in staying power between soft and weak southern strains of bass compared to damned yankee bass found in Lake Erie or let us say in Wisconsin, etc.  A lot of it has to do with oxygen content but overall, southern bass on the average are soft and mushy fleshed.  Many other fishermen have noticed this also.  So if you’re going to make a choice, go north where the real fighting bass hang out.

George,   I don’t know where you got your information on "southern" bass. There is a largemouth strain that is called "Florida bass" and have been transplanted to many other parts of the country, even to places outside the South. Are you saying that there is less oxygen in the lakes and rivers in the South than in the northern parts of the country and the causes the bass to become weak and mushy fleshed. Thats crazy. I’ve caught bass from Canada to Florida. Admittedly, a five-pound smallmouth in Canada (which is a whopper there) gives one heck of a fight. But tie into one like that in Dale Hollow (look it up on a map) or on the Holston and tell me about "weak southern fish". Go to Rodman (knowing about southern fish I’m sure that you know where this is) and hook-up with a big largemouth in the stump fields and tell me that he is weak and mushy.    As far as the flesh of the Florida bass goes, its as firm and good-tasting as any that I’ve eaten.    These are, of course, only my opinions which are based on anecdotal information. What are yours based on? A priori opinions, I suspect. —

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Hi all! Wants anyone tell me what kind of rod is suitable for streamer? I mean, must it be rapid and powerful or not? And how much long? I specify that I usually fish in mountain streams.

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I assume you are asking about a rod for fishing streamers?  I am also assuming that you are fishing some relatively small streams in the mountains, too?  Get yourself a 7-7 1/2′ rod for 6 weight line.  The heavier line weight will carry the streamers more easily.  If you are going to fish on bigger water, I’d recommend going to a 7 or 8 weight in a faster action 9′ fly rod.  There are lots of choices.  Good luck.  Dave Kumlien, Montana Troutfittes Orvis Shop, Bozeman, MT  

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Could someone tell me the price a Jungle Cock cape is worth and were can i order some. Tanks Serge

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Could someone tell me the price a Jungle Cock cape is worth and were can i order some. Tanks Serge

They cost around $125. The Golden Hackle Fly Shop  1-800-449-4359 or Fly & Field 1-800-328-9753 Steve.

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Could someone tell me the price a Jungle Cock cape is worth and were can i order some. Tanks Serge They cost around $125. The Golden Hackle Fly Shop  1-800-449-4359 or Fly & Field 1-800-328-9753 Steve.

Well, I take it back.  I just got my new Golden Hackle catalog, and the price has gone up to $195 for a #1 cape.  I haven’t seen a new F&F, but I would bet his price went way up too, since Gordon at the Golden Hackle is pretty fair with his prices. Steve

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Another source of jungle cock is Dan Bailey’s catalog page 33.  The feathers are selected by size and sell for $5.95 per package. For futhure info call 800-356-4052. Good Tying & Tight Lines Al BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT

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The Cabela’s 1996 fly-fishing catalog has #1 capes for $125 and #2 capes for $97

The (new?) British monthly Fly Fishing and Fly Tying has currently an inserted catalogue for Anglia Fisheries listing #1 jungle cock capes for 80 pounds — much the same as Cabelas. — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Could someone tell me the price a Jungle Cock cape is worth and were can i order some. Tanks Serge They cost around $125. The Golden Hackle Fly Shop  1-800-449-4359 or Fly & Field 1-800-328-9753 Steve. Well, I take it back.  I just got my new Golden Hackle catalog, and the price has gone up to $195 for a #1 cape.  I haven’t seen a new F&F, but I would bet his price went way up too, since Gordon at the Golden Hackle is pretty fair with his prices. Stev

You  can also call Shannon’s Toronto Canada 1.800.618.1418

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I live in CO., and I’m planning on doing some fly fishing for lake trout this year.  I know several places to go, but I don’t know what flies or techniques to use.  Please post any suggestions on fly patterns and methods to use for lake trout.

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planning on doing some fly fishing for lake trout this year.  I know several places to go, but I don’t know what flies or techniques to use.  Please post any suggestions on fly patterns and methods to use for lake trout."     I’ve never ffed in CO, but in CA I’ve had some success with calebaetis sparkle duns, fished in shallow water near weed beds, during the mid-day hatch.  Fish were taking size16, but that was last Sept–maybe larger in spring.  Some swear by nymphs, like a PT, but I find drys easier & more fun when fish will take them.  By the way, the lake I’m talking about has a water temp around 47 deg F, even in warm weather, and I fish from a boat.  

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I live in CO., and I’m planning on doing some fly fishing for lake trout this year….

I go for lakers in NH on a regular basis.  Almost always trolling large (2,4 6X-10X) streamers, especially early in the year.  Gray ghost, red ghost, Lake St. John are some good patterns.  See American Angler on tying New England streamers from this winter.  Have fun. Martin

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