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Hi, Your best bet is to go to a Fly fishing show and pick up a C or ungraded neck there. A C neck will run about $65 and at the show you’ll be able to pick through the necks that they have there. Paul

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I want to spruce up some of my salmon and steelhead flies.  The only jungle cock eyes I’ve been able to find are a full neck for $135. Anyone know where I can find them cheaper? JR

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… at the show you’ll be able to pick through the necks that they have there.

If it’s cheap ‘necks you want, might I suggest a NASCAR or WWF event? –Steve

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www.myflyshop.com Michael and Young in British Columbia – I saw necks there for $82 Cdn. At about 63 cents US buys a Canadian dollar so it should be a good buy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I want to spruce up some of my salmon and steelhead flies.  The only jungle cock eyes I’ve been able to find are a full neck for $135. Anyone know where I can find them cheaper? JR

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I want to spruce up some of my salmon and steelhead flies.  The only jungle cock eyes I’ve been able to find are a full neck for $135. Anyone know where I can find them cheaper? JR

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JR writes: I want to spruce up some of my salmon and steelhead flies.  The only jungle cock eyes I’ve been able to find are a full neck for $135. Anyone know where I can find them cheaper? JR

Hunter has a grade A for 125 and a B for $100.  I bought an ungraded for $60 — it was the best of the ungraded they had.  They also sell them by the ten pack for $5.95 — you get to select the size, small, medium, or large.   They are at: www.huntersangling.com, or 1-800-331-8558. hth Dave

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I want to spruce up some of my salmon and steelhead flies.  The only jungle cock eyes I’ve been able to find are a full neck for $135. Anyone know where I can find them cheaper? JR

yes, but they won’t be as primo quality, which is just fine for fishing flies.  dave quoted some prices, i guess they are pretty standard. there are some shops in the northwest that carry them if you want to stay local.  let me know and i can e-mail you a number or two of shops in washington state. cb

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Hello cb, It is my observation that grading Jungle Cock necks is pretty subjective and varies considerably depending on the vendor.  Over the years, I have often seen second grade necks which were in my estimation better than first grade.  The most important consideration by far is the number of feathers of a useful size in the neck.  The second thing most people look at is whether the feathers are split or not and then maybe the color, which is the least important factor.  In my opinion, whether the feathers are split or not is not very important.  For actual fishing, the fish won’t care. For photographing or display, you can apply a drop of  head cement to the back side and tease the split together before you tie them in – the split won’t be noticeable unless someone is specifically looking for it. Personally, I would select a cheaper neck with split feathers over an expensive one with fewer but unsplit feathers.  For something as costly as a Jungle Cock neck, I would first look at as many necks as possible before buying and I would not buy by mail order because of the subjectivity of grading. Best regards, Yuji Sakuma – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I want to spruce up some of my salmon and steelhead flies.  The only jungle cock eyes I’ve been able to find are a full neck for $135. Anyone know where I can find them cheaper? JR yes, but they won’t be as primo quality, which is just fine for fishing flies.  dave quoted some prices, i guess they are pretty standard. there are some shops in the northwest that carry them if you want to stay local.  let me know and i can e-mail you a number or two of shops in washington state. cb

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Just read an article in my local paper about the NY DEC stocker trucks dumping their annual loads of browns and bows into the local rivers. 8" one year olds and up to 16" two year olds. i welcome a discussion on this program. i’ve heard a lot of pros and cons on this issue. one point is that is provides a lot of fun (if you like to catch dumb stockers), and that fishing pressure neccesitates the stocking program. the counterpoint (which i agree with), is that the inferior stocker fish dilute the gene pool and compete with wild fish for food. the solution seems to be more no kill zones on rivers so the population is not deleted in a single season. i’ve seen this work on rivers in the west where i used to live, and the result was a healthy population of wild fish that were a little harder to catch, but worth the result. in the state of washington where i used to live, the state’s policy is put and take, and they spend millions of dollars and employ thousands of state workers to dump gujillions of fish into the state’s waters. in more enlightened states (MT for example), its been shown that reasonable management of wild fish can result in a plentiful and healthy population. personally i’m not crazy about catching trout with raw noses from living in such tight quarters in the breeding tanks. the wild fish are much healthier and prettier. comments and complaints please. stephen in ny

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As a fellow New Yorker, I pretty much concur with Stephen.  With the vast financial resources of NY State, I think the fishery can do a much better job. While I’m strongly in favor of better stream/river management–a la "no kill/artificial only" to help build healthier and more ‘wild’ trout bases, I also believe that keeping some ‘Put and Take’ spots is critical.  NY should continue to heavily stock parts of streams/rivers near significant population bases where young kids can still have an opportunity to catch fish with worms and bring ‘em home for dinner.   This is what gets kids interested in the outdoors.  Sooner or later they appreciate the ’sport’ of fly fishing, just like the rest of us did, and don’t have a need to keep everything.   For example, I live in the Albany area.  There’s a ton of chatter about state of the Battenkill.  I think the DEC should stock the stream with healthy browns, and then restrict the ENTIRE river in NY to catch and release/artificial only.  Over the next few years, assuming people don’t keep anything, this river ought to bounce back.  Most of the Battenkill winds through very rural areas, so there isn’t a huge population base thats really affected by the change in policy. At the same time, the DED should continue stocking the Kaydeross and Geyser Creeks, understanding that ninety percent of those fish are going to be fried for dinner. The Battenkill becomes the classic trout tream it once was, and the Kaydeross is the stream we all grew up with… My two cents, but NY, has large opportunities for improvement. Pete

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I’ll be in the Denver area next weekend and have 1 day free for some fly fishing.  Any suggestions on where to go this time of year? Don

Hi Don, Denver sits on the banks of Lake Norman. It’s a lake full of specs, bass, catfish, and panfish. The Catawba river flows into it and out of it through a dam. It’s a great place to fish and relax here in the NC piedmont. It does get hot as hell in the summer though. Ooops, oh, that Denver……sorry, Waldo…to damn early in the am.

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I’ll be in the Denver area next weekend and have 1 day free for some fly fishing.  Any suggestions on where to go this time of year? Don

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Float tube – suggestions?? Vest – days are usually very warm so I don’t really want to add another layer. Are there any mesh knit vests? thanks, Don

Don, there are mesh vests, and I wouldn’t be without one. Almost any FF’ing dealer will have them, and, of course, most all the large mail order catalogs, take your pick. They can run from 30 bucks on up to near a C note. If you’re approaching oldfartism, like me, then you might want to consider a V tube or U tube for ease of getting in and out of. Doughnuts are fine, but can be a hassle getting into them. There are plenty to pick from, again, check out the mail order catalogs. Frank Church Elkhart, IN

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(snip) then you might want to consider a V tube or U tube for ease of getting in and out of. Doughnuts are fine, but can be a hassle getting into them. There are plenty to pick from, again, check out the mail order catalogs. Frank Church Elkhart, IN

True, there are many tubes to choose from…but, 90% of them, in my opinion, don’t cut the mustard….built cheap, sewn cheap, cheap material, and cheap bladders.  Now if your serious about tubing, check out the V-tube ‘Whisper’ from Leigh Outdoors in Utah.  Modified 10×22" truck tube (not a bladder), comfortable adjustable hard seat…about $200.00  Mike’s got them at Mikes Fly Desk in Bountiful, Utah.  And no, I’m not a relative or employee of Mike’s….I just know a damn good tube when I see one.  Call him at 801/292-4736 or FAX 801/298-9442 for his catalog…you won’t be sorry. Greg Hardig

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If you’re going to carry the float tube any distance, get the lightest that will uspport you.  This generally means a donut with a bladder.  Only question is what diameter you need for yor weight.  I carry a Caddis 20" that only wieghs 3 lbs.  Uboats run 7 to 12 pounds.  Inner tubes are very heavy compared to bladders.  Breaathables are light but very cold for float tubing in high mountain lakes.  Often the weight you save is used up in carrying long underwear. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m new to fly fishing and just getting my gear.  One of my favorite hiking areas is the east side of the Sierra and I’ve got a few gear questions for use in this environment – spring – fall. Waders – something light for packing, comfortable to use all day (breathable?), also use in float tube. Float tube – suggestions?? Vest – days are usually very warm so I don’t really want to add another layer. Are there any mesh knit vests? thanks, Don

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I’m new to fly fishing and just getting my gear.  One of my favorite hiking areas is the east side of the Sierra and I’ve got a few gear questions for use in this environment – spring – fall. Waders – something light for packing, comfortable to use all day (breathable?), also use in float tube.   Float tube – suggestions?? Vest – days are usually very warm so I don’t really want to add another layer. Are there any mesh knit vests? thanks, Don

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The power company last spring stated that for new lines to be strung an Impact report had to be filed  because the home was within 300′ of the river.No trees or brush could be removed till he had permission from the BLM and CFG.

snip Harry – I appreciate your friend’s difficulties. I will not defend, and in fact will oppose, unreasonable restrictions on property rights. But, on the other hand, protection of our resources will require some restrictions – where the rabbit goes in the hat is what is "reasonable".   I can assure you that this conference does not have as its pupose the extinguishment of our property rights. Mark Faulkner

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Sheesh Harry: I’m holding the registration brochure/abstract listing in my hand and I’m sorry, but I fail to see anything about government confiscation of property or abridgement of 5th Amendment Rights.  There will however, be sessions on stream bank fencing, the benefits of streambank riparian buffers on aquatic habitats and lo and behold… also sessions on landowner assistance, and the purchase of easements for riparian habitat enhancement work. That’s purchase, you know… a wiling buyer and a willing seller.  From what I can glean from your description, your friend on the Klamath is yet another example where the "One Size Fits All" proclivity of government has exhibited from time to time in being inflexible and profoundly unfair to citizens and property owners. He has been wronged.. This type of abuse deserves the same vigorous exposure and correction as the unmasking and pursuit of those who would use the guise of whining about property rights violations to hedge and fudge existing environmental standards.  For as long as I can recall, this entire discussion has been overly long on the proclamation of "rights" and far too brief on the discussion of "responsibilities". Enough of that. This conference is not about how to mount a night raid to seize Uncle John’s south woods along the North Fork of Hometown Run and add them to the public trust.  Its about why trees with good root systems tend to hold streambanks in place and stuff like that. The luncheon and presentations are great, but conspiracies are in short supply, I’m afraid.  

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RLPPT   You are correct, I was ahead of myself.    The one size fits all dogma of the Fed is derived in no small part from  those groups and experts that know "what’s best for the Resource".  I’m sorry if I implied that the Keystone Conference in of it’s self is responsible for this type of thought process. That was not my intension. What I am saying is that over time, the Ecological and Philosophical solution to the premise that the Riparian habitat is being destroyed is; prohibit entrence.There is no reference to conspiracy or rights or responsibilities in that statement, nor were there in my other note. HM electrons to read: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Sheesh Harry: I’m holding the registration brochure/abstract listing in my hand and I’m sorry, but I fail to see anything about government confiscation of property or abridgement of 5th Amendment Rights.  There will however, be sessions on stream bank fencing, the benefits of streambank riparian buffers on aquatic habitats and lo and behold… also sessions on landowner assistance, and the purchase of easements for riparian habitat enhancement work. That’s purchase, you know… a wiling buyer and a willing seller. From what I can glean from your description, your friend on the Klamath is yet another example where the "One Size Fits All" proclivity of government has exhibited from time to time in being inflexible and profoundly unfair to citizens and property owners. He has been wronged.. This type of abuse deserves the same vigorous exposure and correction as the unmasking and pursuit of those who would use the guise of whining about property rights violations to hedge and fudge existing environmental standards.  For as long as I can recall, this entire discussion has been overly long on the proclamation of "rights" and far too brief on the discussion of "responsibilities". Enough of that. This conference is not about how to mount a night raid to seize Uncle John’s south woods along the North Fork of Hometown Run and add them to the public trust.  Its about why trees with good root systems tend to hold streambanks in place and stuff like that. The luncheon and presentations are great, but conspiracies are in short supply, I’m afraid.  

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the electons to read: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The 2/20 conference at Penn State is jointly sponsored by Pennsylvania and National TU, the Chesapeake Bay Foundation, Pa Fish & Boat Commission, Pa Audubon, PA-DEP, PA-DNCR (PA’s Environmental Regulatory Agencies), and several private sector companies like Orvis, etc. This is the third annual conference and if it comes off like the first two, there will be over 300 folks there from agencies and the conservation community networking and talking and planning on what is best for the resource and our coldwater fisheries.  Registration is open until 2/6. Call one of the folks in the previous post.  Last year,I think we had attendees from 11 states. This is getting to be some event and I for one won’t miss it. Thanks Bob, you saved me some typing.  I’ll see you there.  Not sure where Harry was coming from there.   Mark Faulkner

  I have a friend who lives on the Upper Klamath,outside of Happy camp. He is a Nam vet and has ‘retired’ to a home he inheritated from his father in 88.His place sits on about 30 acres of ground with about an 1/8 of mile of river front. The heavy winter of last year did a number on his power lines and he spent time and money to replace what he could till last spring so the major line could be replaced. The power company last spring stated that for new lines to be strung an Impact report had to be filed  because the home was within 300′ of the river.No trees or brush could be removed till he had permission from the BLM and CFG.The report cost $1750.  They have succeeded in impeding any improvements ,maintenance to his property till he got "permission". The road to his place needed attention of a D9 cat , he could not do it.  They have for all intents and purposes, confiscated his property. He could sell but then he, by law, has to state that the Fed will not allow improvements or the like… that means no buyers. After much legal hassle and expense the power was replaced under a "one time" grandfather clause. His is still fighting to get what’s left back.   So when a group, any group gets together to "decide what’s best for the resource" my ears perk up. If, like on the "Post Spill" Upper Sac here in Ca. a group or town (Dunsmire) can demand the fishing regs reflect it’s desire to allow more bait fishing, then the jump in the opposite direction,i.e. No fishing at all is not as Quantum as you may think.It depends on who is yelling the loudest  The environmental extension to the question of what’s best for the resource is; no human interaction. After all, if C&R is deemed harmful to the resource by a group that wields the power or the public backing, we as a group are not left with much to do except fish from our SUV’s with  3 D helmets on.  I agree with those that are trying to improve what can be and have and do jump in myself, but given the radical days of Green Political correctness we are in, the outlawing of fishing and or boating is not nearly as far fetched as it was 10 years ago. What will the next 10 hold ?   harry Other than that, I off to tye at the ISE show… Have a good one

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the electons to read: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The 2/20 conference at Penn State is jointly sponsored by Pennsylvania and National TU, the Chesapeake Bay Foundation, Pa Fish & Boat Commission, Pa Audubon, PA-DEP, PA-DNCR (PA’s Environmental Regulatory Agencies), and several private sector companies like Orvis, etc. This is the third annual conference and if it comes off like the first two, there will be over 300 folks there from agencies and the conservation community networking and talking and planning on what is best for the resource and our coldwater fisheries.  Registration is open until 2/6. Call one of the folks in the previous post.  Last year,I think we had attendees from 11 states. This is getting to be some event and I for one won’t miss it. Thanks Bob, you saved me some typing.  I’ll see you there.  Not sure where Harry was coming from there.   Mark Faulkner

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The 2/20 conference at Penn State is jointly sponsored by Pennsylvania and National TU, the Chesapeake Bay Foundation, Pa Fish & Boat Commission, Pa Audubon, PA-DEP, PA-DNCR (PA’s Environmental Regulatory Agencies), and several private sector companies like Orvis, etc. This is the third annual conference and if it comes off like the first two, there will be over 300 folks there from agencies and the conservation community networking and talking and planning on what is best for the resource and our coldwater fisheries.  Registration is open until 2/6. Call one of the folks in the previous post.  Last year,I think we had attendees from 11 states. This is getting to be some event and I for one won’t miss it.

Thanks Bob, you saved me some typing.  I’ll see you there.  Not sure where Harry was coming from there.   Mark Faulkner

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projected the electons to read: THIRD ANNUAL KEYSTONE COLDWATER CONFERENCE:                           MULTIPLE BENEFITS OF STREAMSIDE BUFFERS The time is coming when this "Quite" sport in which we participate will come to be looked upon as invasive, detrimental and  damaging to the riparian environment. Harry, get a grip, man.  One just doesn’t follow from the other.  Now put down your copy of "The Turner Diaries", kick back and enjoy the millenium. Anything being sponsored by Penn State University has to be good.

 Fiddle on Nero , Actually I just finished Tyer’s Benchside cover to cover, very nice book. In general  schools east of the Divide are just to Provincial… Hm (helmet in place )

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The 2/20 conference at Penn State is jointly sponsored by Pennsylvania and National TU, the Chesapeake Bay Foundation, Pa Fish & Boat Commission, Pa Audubon, PA-DEP, PA-DNCR (PA’s Environmental Regulatory Agencies), and several private sector companies like Orvis, etc. This is the third annual conference and if it comes off like the first two, there will be over 300 folks there from agencies and the conservation community networking and talking and planning on what is best for the resource and our coldwater fisheries.  Registration is open until 2/6. Call one of the folks in the previous post.  Last year,I think we had attendees from 11 states. This is getting to be some event and I for one won’t miss it.

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THIRD ANNUAL KEYSTONE COLDWATER CONFERENCE:                           MULTIPLE BENEFITS OF STREAMSIDE BUFFERS

The time is coming when this "Quite" sport in which we participate will come to be looked upon as invasive, detrimental and  damaging to the riparian environment.

Harry, get a grip, man.  One just doesn’t follow from the other.  Now put down your copy of "The Turner Diaries", kick back and enjoy the millenium. Anything being sponsored by Penn State University has to be good.

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Seminars will include: River viewing from afar. Casting over the Riparian zone with bow and arrow. Landing trout remotely from viewing area. Who to contact in the Fed. to get permission to ask someone if you can touch the water.   A feasibility study of "virtual" fly fishing in 3D  from your now outlawed SUV. Pay for view The time is coming when this "Quite" sport in which we participate will come to be looked upon as invasive, detrimental and  damaging to the riparian environment. You may say, it’s a matter of degree, FF’ers don’t damage the "Zone" as much as say  Cattle .You would be correct, the problem is: we do not define the Degree and wading is invasive, trails are damaging and sticking little fish for joy is or will not  be PC. It’s only a matter of time, sorry to say. HM (I don’t see Black Helicopters or Grays, but I do not inhale sand either.) projected the electons to read: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -THIRD ANNUAL KEYSTONE COLDWATER CONFERENCE:                           MULTIPLE BENEFITS OF STREAMSIDE BUFFERS      SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 1999 To inform individuals from grassroots groups, including watershed organizations and trout unlimited chapters, about the value and function of natural and planted riparian vegetation along upland coldwater streams in enhancing both terrestrial and aquatic ecosystems. There will be sessions on:                 Fish and Water Quality                 Bird Abundance and Diversity                 Landscape Ecology                 Stream Bank Fencing                 Geographical Information Systems For up to date conference information: http://www.outreach.psu.edu/C&I/Coldwaterconservation For More Information About program content: Janie French (814) 768-9584 Jack Williams (814) 764-3368 About registration or access: Mark Bernhard, Penn State Conferences and Institutes 225 The Penn Stater Conference Hotel State College  PA  16802 Phone: (814)863-5121 Fax: (814) 863-5190

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I am relocating to the Boston area (North Shore) and I am looking for good trout spots as well as some hotspots for Bluefish and Strippers. Any ideas are most appreciated. Mike

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I am relocating to the Boston area (North Shore) and I am looking for good trout spots as well as some hotspots for Bluefish and Strippers. Any ideas are most appreciated. Mike

My web site has links to the area fish finder reports, including Reel-Time, for whom I write the Metropolitan Boston report. Additionally, I carry stocking reports and fishing reports from local anglers.  I’m in the midst of updating the page, but you’ll find plenty of info that can get you started.  Feel free to e-mail me with any questions. Welcome to the area. — Mark Cahill For E-mail remove the _Remove_This from the reply to address. http://www.geocities.com/Baja/3297/fishing.htm Mark Cahill’s Fishing New England – Daily Fishing News http://www.reel-time.com/ The Internet Journal of Saltwater Fly Fishing – Metropolitan Boston Regional Editor

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: I am relocating to the Boston area (North Shore) and I am looking for good : trout spots as well as some hotspots for Bluefish and Strippers. : Any ideas are most appreciated. : Mike For trout try the Nissitissit C&R area in Pepperill. For SW try southern ME and Plum I and Crane’s Beach in Ipswitch.

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Salt Lake City area?  Any outfitters who might have advice or recommendations?

Try the Spinner Fall flyshop at 801-583-2602.  Matt usually works Saturday but whoever answers the phone should be able to help you.  The Provo is always open but its been a little slow.  Anyway it isn’t winter here yet, so bring your equipment. John Close Not an employee or Spinner Fall but most of my friends are.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I know this is last minute, but I’m going to Salt Lake City for a series of meetings this weekend.  I won’t have much time to fish, The fishing on the Provo river is pretty good right now.  The Provo is 40 miles from Salt Lake and it is freeway most of the way.  The guys at Spinner Fall Fly Shop can help you out if you need a guide. 801-583-2602. Last Friday I fished the afternoon and had a twenty fish go of it. Several were over 20 inches. Bruce

Bruce, Were there Beatis on the water last week??  I’ll be there tomorrow. Paul

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I know this is last minute, but I’m going to Salt Lake City for a series of meetings this weekend.  I won’t have much time to fish, and given the time of year it might not be possible, but does anyone have any suggestions for the Salt Lake City area?  Any outfitters who might have advice or recommendations? Charley Keeton

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I know this is last minute, but I’m going to Salt Lake City for a series of meetings this weekend.  I won’t have much time to fish, and given the time of year it might not be possible, but does anyone have any suggestions for the Salt Lake City area?  Any outfitters who might have advice or recommendations? Charley Keeton

The fishing on the Provo river is pretty good right now.  The Provo is 40 miles from Salt Lake and it is freeway most of the way.  The guys at Spinner Fall Fly Shop can help you out if you need a guide. 801-583-2602. Last Friday I fished the afternoon and had a twenty fish go of it. Several were over 20 inches. Bruce

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Don’t listen to what other people say , get new line if it is knicked.If you can find these colors they work good. 1.Trout-green;blue 2.Salmon-orange;yellow 3.Pike-gray;brown 4.Bass-dark green;mud                                                     Fellow Fisherman,                                                        Mr.Oralando

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Don’t listen to what other people say , get new line if it is knicked.If you can find these colors they work good. 1.Trout-green;blue 2.Salmon-orange;yellow 3.Pike-gray;brown 4.Bass-dark green;mud                        Fellow Fisherman,                            Mr.Oralando

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Don’t listen to what other people say , get new line if it is knicked.If you can find these colors they work good. 1.Trout-green;blue 2.Salmon-orange;yellow 3.Pike-gray;brown 4.Bass-dark green;mud

I started to respond to this,  but got so confused by the above message I forgot what I was going to say. Ernie Harrison

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: 1.Trout-green;blue : 2.Salmon-orange;yellow : 3.Pike-gray;brown : 4.Bass-dark green;mud :                        Fellow Fisherman, :                            Mr.Oralando : /dave (To KF or Not To KF: That is the Question ;^) Now, now.  Be nice. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Assistant professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    |  These University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    |  opinions Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. |  are mine.

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Would appreciate info on flyfishing opportunities in Nevada and Southwestern Utah.  Best times, fly types, locations, etc. Thanks to all.

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Would appreciate info on flyfishing opportunities in Nevada and Southwestern Utah.  Best times, fly types, locations, etc. Thanks to all.

William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA

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Hi,    There is some excellent fishing up in the northeastern part of Nevada. While most of the flyfishing is floattube reservoir oriented, there are some stream fisheries.   The season is year around, techniques and locations change with the seasons. Winter means ice on most of the stillwaters, and that severely limits flyfishing. The tailwater fisheries below Wildhorse Reservoir and South Fork Reservoir stay open water in all but the coldest temperatures. The Collection Ditch at the Ruby Marshes also stays open and provides some good winter nymphing.   Early spring is the best fishing, and it is winding down at this time. Big rainbows head up the South Fork of the Humboldt above the reservoir starting at ice off and they can be caught on nymphs or midges. Near the inlets on all the reservoirs will show some fish on these techniques. The Collection Ditch at the Marshes and some of the Marsh areas produce big trout at this time (the Ditch collects the springs and routes the water to the various units–it is really a big spring creek)  Big runnoff time, which we are into now, generally means muddy water and the small waters and the Marsh are the best as they don’t get as muddy.  Post runoff finds the streams dropping and you can get into some of the areas like the Bruneau and Jarbidge river systems and these have good dry fly fishing for trout. The bass action starts to improve and three pound smallmouths on a flyrod will almost make you forget about trout.   Summer and warming water shifts the good fishing to the early mornings or after sunset–you can fish this area on almost all waters as long as the casinos stay open…   Fall fishing is excellent. The browns start spawning about the time the first frosts cut the bug populations. Most of the anglers have given up for the season, but the fishing is great.   That’s the year in a nutshell. There’s 1100 miles of streams and about 50 lake and reservoirs in the county, so it would take a book for specifics. Tight Lines, Jim, Nevada Jim’s Outdoor Sports, Elko, NV

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Several of us are trying to get a Chat Room set up on Prodigy and a conference room on AOL so that we can talk with each other, tell or stories about the one that gotr away or what ever. To do this we need to show interest. If your into this and subscribe to Prodigy or AOL let me know and I’ll pass the info on Thanks Fishing the Green in Utah

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Several of us are trying to get a Chat Room set up on Prodigy and a conference room on AOL so that we can talk with each other, tell or stories about the one that gotr away or what ever. To do this we need to show interest. If your into this and subscribe to Prodigy or AOL let me know and I’ll pass the info on.

You might consider getting in contact with Alan Dechovitz on AOL, his handle is Caribe Duo. He already runs two nets a month. Currently they are held on the first tuesday and third sunday on each month. He is expanding the net to include guest speakers for Febuary and March. See ya, Bob

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INTERESTED

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I am on AOL. My screen name is Fishingfly. From S.E. Idaho. I am very interested in a chat. Also holding Eastern Idaho fly tying expo in Pocatello on April 8 at the Quality Inn. 70 top tyers from the west  

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interested in this

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I am AOL my screen name is Fishingfly. My name is Chuck Collins. I am from Pocatello, Idaho. Would be interested in Chat.

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Hi E.- I’m currently on Compuserve and AOL in a comparison mode.  My current thinking is AOl between the two but I am seriously condidering Internet instead of either of them.  Cheaper for me thru the U of Minn connection. However, I am always interested in talking flyfishing and I may stay with AOL.  CIS is just too damned expensive  -  almost twice the hourly cost for chat lines or BBS’s. I’ll be watching to see if you get something going. John Bjostad in Mpls

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Prefer CompuServe.

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Im interested my screen name is VinceT1027 contact me on AOL!!!

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sounds like a good idea let me know if it gets going

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im interested. im a ff. i sub to aol.

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i work for mk.  i am in seattle. im a ff. i would very much like a chat line in aol.  i am learning ff.

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An AOL chat line sounds good to me. You can get a rise out of me at tight lines! the bobinator   The Bobinator

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Yes This would be great so that we could pass informatiom around on where it is hot and where it is not.

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I’m interested, MG caddis

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I’m definitely interested. On AOL.  From MA.  Both fresh and salywater flyfishing.  Let me Know how it works out.                                                              Feltsole

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Ready any evening.

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Several of us are trying to get a Chat Room set up on Prodigy and a conference room on AOL so that we can talk with each other, tell or stories about the one that gotr away or what ever. To do this we need to show interest. If your into this and subscribe to Prodigy or AOL let me know and I’ll pass the info on.

As a subscriber of prodigy, please enter my interest in a bb or chat – great idea!

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I would really enjoy a conference room on AOL. Contact me when something develops. Thanks, PresG

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My screen name is DON1RENO I am interested in a room and maybe holding some seminars or workshops online for those hideous nights after work

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For all who wanted a Chat Room. AOL Keyword GS OTHER, Enter "Other Sports", highlight Chat Rooms, Choose Sports Rooms and then enter "Sideline" I’m not real sure what goes on in sidelines, but lets meet there Sat. evening at around 9:00PM EST. If need be, maybe we’ll just have to take it over for awhile. I want to thank all of you for your help and support in this, I’ve had about 40 replys. Thjanks

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Tight Lines and Screaming Reels Southern Style! Let me know Phil B.

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MartinR100 at AOL, would be interested.

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you got a rise out of me. i would like to be able to have real-time conversations on aol with persons who are hooked on flyfishing like me. stan in ca stan in ca

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You’re a wealth of information.  Thanks!  And glad to see you’re in higher ed too.  No wonder you’re so willing to share info.  Got any suggestions on the best dry fly patterns to use?? Roger Gary L. Bertrand

: Thanks for your help Gary.  I really appreciate it.  But a : question…terms I’ve not heard "put&take" and "NoCreel."  Do both of : those mean catch a release?  That’s just fine with me, I’d never keep : a fish unless it accidently was killed in the process of catching it : anyway. : : Are the parks closed during the week all winter?  When do they open : and about what time of year does the good dry fly fishing start? : : Roger. : : I say "put & take" in the sense that during the regular season at the trout : parks, they PUT them (rainbows, usually 11-14") in each evening (about 2.3 : trout per expected tag) and we TAKE them out the next day (limit 5) on a $2 : daily tag.  Whistle blows at 6:30, everybody casts, 1/3 catch a fish, 2/3 : catch somebody else.  You can C&R if you like (20+ days are not uncommon), : but I don’t recommend it in crowded areas when the bubbas aren’t catching : much.  There are different conditions at the 4 parks (I am not familiar : with Roaring River Park) during the regular season – March 1 to October 30. :  Meramek Springs (St.James) Park allows anything, and I don’t recommend it : unless you enjoy casting around some guy chunking cheese on a treble hook : with a Rhino rod.  Bennett Springs (N of Lebanon) has 3 zones – flies only, : something like flies only but you aren’t restricted to a single-point hook : (lots of rooster tails), and bait.  Montauk Springs (SW of Salem, SE of : Licking) has flies only, anything goes, and a c&r area.  Winter season in : all 4 parks is from mid-November to mid February, weekends only, c&r (only : they call it NoCreel), flies only.  They stock them only once pretty : heavily at the start of winter season, so the catching is great in Nov and : drops off during the winter. :       The rivers below Meramec Springs (Meramec R) and Montauk (Current R) are : trophy trout areas (limit 3,15" minimum) and are open all year anytime. : You can fish them on a state or out-of-state license, put can’t keep trout : without a trout stamp.  The catching is not as good as it is in the parks, : but the fishing is much better.  The river below Bennett Springs (Niangua : R) is also open all year with no restrictions, but I haven’t fished it very : much.  I find the Bennett Springs area too crowded, even during winter : season, but they have some of the best shops in the state, so I make a : couple of trips (it’s about an hour-and-a-half from here) a year for : fly-tying supplies. :       The good dry fly fishing starts around daybreak on any day you’re lucky : enough to be out in the river without freezing your butt off (and maybe : even a few mornings with frost on your pumpkin), but I think the fishing is : best on weekdays in April.  There’s too many people on weekends, and by May : there’s too many people all week. : Gary : — : Gary L. Bertrand   Dept. of Chemistry : University of Missouri-Rolla

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One good place to start might be Bennett Spring State Park. It’s a put-n- take fishery but at least is relatively easy to get to from KC and can provide a fairly decent "fix". Ask any store that sells flies how to get there.

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I’ll give it a try….an, I’m glad you know about the need for a fishing "fix."  I’d take a 6" rainbow right now just to see a fish — it’s been too long since my waiders have been wet. : One good place to start might be Bennett Spring State Park. It’s a put-n- : take fishery but at least is relatively easy to get to from KC and can : provide a fairly decent "fix". Ask any store that sells flies how to get : there.

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I’ll give it a try….an, I’m glad you know about the need for a fishing "fix."  I’d take a 6" rainbow right now just to see a fish — it’s been too long since my waiders have been wet.

Don’t go running down there right now, expecting to put&take.  All of the Missouri trout parks are now in Winter Season for NoCreel (C&R) fishing only, and only open Fri, Sat, Sunday.  A $5 permit lets you fish all the parks (4) all winter. — Gary L. Bertrand

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Thanks for your help Gary.  I really appreciate it.  But a question…terms I’ve not heard "put&take" and "NoCreel."  Do both of those mean catch a release?  That’s just fine with me, I’d never keep a fish unless it accidently was killed in the process of catching it anyway. Are the parks closed during the week all winter?  When do they open and about what time of year does the good dry fly fishing start? Roger. Gary L.

: I’ll give it a try….an, I’m glad you know about the need for a fishing : "fix."  I’d take a 6" rainbow right now just to see a fish — it’s been : too long since my waiders have been wet. : : Don’t go running down there right now, expecting to put&take.  All of the : Missouri trout parks are now in Winter Season for NoCreel (C&R) fishing : only, and only open Fri, Sat, Sunday.  A $5 permit lets you fish all the : parks (4) all winter. : — : Gary L. Bertrand

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Thanks for your help Gary.  I really appreciate it.  But a question…terms I’ve not heard "put&take" and "NoCreel."  Do both of those mean catch a release?  That’s just fine with me, I’d never keep a fish unless it accidently was killed in the process of catching it anyway. Are the parks closed during the week all winter?  When do they open and about what time of year does the good dry fly fishing start? Roger.

I say "put & take" in the sense that during the regular season at the trout parks, they PUT them (rainbows, usually 11-14") in each evening (about 2.3 trout per expected tag) and we TAKE them out the next day (limit 5) on a $2 daily tag.  Whistle blows at 6:30, everybody casts, 1/3 catch a fish, 2/3 catch somebody else.  You can C&R if you like (20+ days are not uncommon), but I don’t recommend it in crowded areas when the bubbas aren’t catching much.  There are different conditions at the 4 parks (I am not familiar with Roaring River Park) during the regular season – March 1 to October 30.  Meramek Springs (St.James) Park allows anything, and I don’t recommend it unless you enjoy casting around some guy chunking cheese on a treble hook with a Rhino rod.  Bennett Springs (N of Lebanon) has 3 zones – flies only, something like flies only but you aren’t restricted to a single-point hook (lots of rooster tails), and bait.  Montauk Springs (SW of Salem, SE of Licking) has flies only, anything goes, and a c&r area.  Winter season in all 4 parks is from mid-November to mid February, weekends only, c&r (only they call it NoCreel), flies only.  They stock them only once pretty heavily at the start of winter season, so the catching is great in Nov and drops off during the winter.         The rivers below Meramec Springs (Meramec R) and Montauk (Current R) are trophy trout areas (limit 3,15" minimum) and are open all year anytime. You can fish them on a state or out-of-state license, put can’t keep trout without a trout stamp.  The catching is not as good as it is in the parks, but the fishing is much better.  The river below Bennett Springs (Niangua R) is also open all year with no restrictions, but I haven’t fished it very much.  I find the Bennett Springs area too crowded, even during winter season, but they have some of the best shops in the state, so I make a couple of trips (it’s about an hour-and-a-half from here) a year for fly-tying supplies.         The good dry fly fishing starts around daybreak on any day you’re lucky enough to be out in the river without freezing your butt off (and maybe even a few mornings with frost on your pumpkin), but I think the fishing is best on weekdays in April.  There’s too many people on weekends, and by May there’s too many people all week. Gary — Gary L. Bertrand   Dept. of Chemistry University of Missouri-Rolla

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I’m looking for some good fly fishing places in Missouri.  I’m expecially interested in streams that are within easy driving distance to Kansas City.  I normally fish Wyoming, Idaho, and Montana, so this will be a new exprerience, so I’d appreciate any suggestions.  Thanks!

You will have to decide what is easy driving distance, but I’ll give you some ideas.If you are talking about in the normal in season time, Do the Merremac River and the Current river. As far as the Merremac goes, there is a bunch of big water fishing from around St. James on downstream. (Jon boat is good to float with then get out and wade.) The Current river offers some great classic trout stream fishing from Montauk springs on downstream. (Montauk is good for the kids and some practice in the flys only sections. Also a decent place to stay.) concentrate your serious fishing however on the current river downstream from the springs. Locals can give you guidance. Canoe is good for transportation. There are a few liveries around Montauk and you can park your car at the pickup and float down to it and leave the canoe. Don’t be put off by the Corn fisherman in the parks. They are gettin’ dinner and having a good time with the family. The Classic fishing, as I said is in the streams out of the parks. If you want some REAL western type fishing, go to Mountain Home Arkansas and fish the White and Norfolk rivers. Definitely hire a guide at Blue Ribbon Flies in Mountain Home. It will make your trip worthwile and safe. Best fishing is this time of year for the big ‘uns. Great fishing year around though. By the way, some of the land on the Current River (which is part of the Ozark Sceninc Riverway) was homesteaded by my ancestors, and I still have a bunch of relatives  we go see from time to time.     If you want specifics on locations and suggestions rather than these generalizations, Email me and I’ll respond. Kevin Williams-Indianapolis, IN

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I’m looking for some good fly fishing places in Missouri.  I’m expecially interested in streams that are within easy driving distance to Kansas City.  I normally fish Wyoming, Idaho, and Montana, so this will be a new exprerience, so I’d appreciate any suggestions.  Thanks!

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