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   Ok folks, tommorow will be a one day snapshot of flyfishing accross the globe, all to be posted here for the world to enjoy.  I will not be anywhere near a computer until Monday morning, so let’s decide what the header will be for our results so they’re all in one thread.  I know some participants may post over the weekend, so for simplicity’s sake, let’s call it Fishing Day Results.  Yes?  No?    I’ll be heading up to some high desert lakes myself, feeling pretty good about the prospects.  We’ll see on Monday! JE

And for those who can’t fish tomorrow, Sunday the 18th will automatically be deleted and the 17th will carry over for another 24 hours. Big Al

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   Ok folks, tommorow will be a one day snapshot of flyfishing accross the globe, all to be posted here for the world to enjoy.  I will not be anywhere near a computer until Monday morning, so let’s decide what the header will be for our results so they’re all in one thread.  I know some participants may post over the weekend, so for simplicity’s sake, let’s call it Fishing Day Results.  Yes?  No?    I’ll be heading up to some high desert lakes myself, feeling pretty good about the prospects.  We’ll see on Monday! JE

Lucky b—-r, I’ll  be stuck battling a fibreglas hatch on the Credit. Cheers Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.cgocable.net/~pcharles/index.html

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    Ok folks, tommorow will be a one day snapshot of flyfishing accross the globe, all to be posted here for the world to enjoy.  I will not be anywhere near a computer until Monday morning, so let’s decide what the header will be for our results so they’re all in one thread.  I know some participants may post over the weekend, so for simplicity’s sake, let’s call it Fishing Day Results.  Yes?  No?     I’ll be heading up to some high desert lakes myself, feeling pretty good about the prospects.  We’ll see on Monday! JE

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Hi, Lets get a thread going on various tactics for fishing streams and rivers. Casting considerations Anti Skating techniques Are some examples for topics of discussion. Regards – Michael

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Hi, Lets get a thread going on various tactics for fishing streams and rivers. Casting considerations Anti Skating techniques Are some examples for topics of discussion. Regards – Michael

Well fishing small streams is what i do best and most (those usually correspond).  As far as casting goes i like to dap a lot and also flip my fly to a different spot on the stream intead of a full pickup.  this usually is best because it doesn’t spook the natives.

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Hi, Lets get a thread going on various tactics for fishing streams and rivers. Casting considerations Anti Skating techniques Are some examples for topics of discussion. Regards – Michael

   Well fishing small streams is what i do best and most (those usually correspond).  As far as casting goes i like to dap a lot and also flip my fly to a different spot on the stream intead of a full pickup.  this usually is best because it doesn’t spook the natives.

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Yeah, I’ve found in small streams that usual rules of fly presentation often don’t apply.  An elk hair caddis that starts out as a dry fly, even when palmered, will often quickly get sucked under and pulled along as a wet and still seems to attract fish.  Dragging the fly all over the top and bouncing it over white water will get hits very commonly , sometimes even in relatively smooth water, when otherwise the slightest drag will spook fish.  Doodle bugs and Renegades also show this kind of "versatility". — Ken Brown Satis elequontiae, sapientiae parum.

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Yeah, I’ve found in small streams that usual rules of fly presentation often don’t apply.  An elk hair caddis that starts out as a dry fly, even when palmered, will often quickly get sucked under and pulled along as a wet and still seems to attract fish.  Dragging the fly all over the top and bouncing it over white water will get hits very commonly , sometimes even in relatively smooth water, when otherwise the slightest drag will spook fish.  Doodle bugs and Renegades also show this kind of "versatility". — Ken Brown Satis elequontiae, sapientiae parum.

  I found the same thing in other waters.  Often it takes alittle action or sometimes alot of drag on dry caddis to get a response, and this is on fish that will be put down with just a small amount of drag when feeding on Mayfly duns. Overall, Mayflies are sedate, Caddis aren’t. Willi

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While I was

wading out to a good spot at the head of a riffle, I had my fly drifting in the water when Wham! a nice 14" brown gobbled it up.  Now I purposely let my caddis dry bounce on the surrface of a riffle for a good minute or more.  Seems as though the fish see it as a caddis laying eggs and bouncing up and down on the surface.

Andrew, One might conclude (incorrectly) that one needs to have ones fly in the  water to catch fish from this… and sometimes not in the manner one would  normally use… Well, I saw a fish rising along the far bank of the Yellow Breeches some 30  feet away and cast a Letort cricket size 14 to it…. leader wrapped a small  branch of a leafy plant, causing the Letort cricket to be suspended 6" above  the water.  A rainbow leaped, nailed the cricket, broke off the leafy branch  still wrapped around the leader.   Netted ‘em both.   So… just get your fly  near a fish is sometimes good enough. tightlines, Alan E. Hoover Anglers’ Rest Powhatan, Va        *the trout teach many, lessons*

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Re bouncing dry bouncing caddis in a riffle- I have done this in the dark with an elk hair sedge with rubber legs, and also let it drift dry down a glide till it reaches the end of its travel, then allowed the current to drag it across (presumably making a big vee -too dark to see!) The brownies will take at any stage of this technique, and produces bigger fish than during daylight or the dusk too. This is on a stream in N.Ireland, though I live in Scotland now! Gillaroo. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sure, I’ll bite.  Here’s one of my favorite techniques.  While I was wading out to a good spot at the head of a riffle, I had my fly drifting in the water when Wham! a nice 14" brown gobbled it up.  Now I purposely let my caddis dry bounce on the surrface of a riffle for a good minute or more.  Seems as though the fish see it as a caddis laying eggs and bouncing up and down on the surface. Anyone else try this? Andrew Hi, Lets get a thread going on various tactics for fishing streams and rivers. Casting considerations Anti Skating techniques Are some examples for topics of discussion. Regards – Michael

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Lets get a thread going on various tactics for fishing streams and rivers.

How about this one.  I’m standing on the bank, I’ve just finished a cast and my fly is trailing downstream in the current.  I tuck the rod under my elbow, and light up a smoke.  Right about the time I get the thing lit, a fish hits, pops the rod out and pulls it into the water, as I stumble around after it. Similarly, I use this cast to look at water ouzels, deer, bears and clouds. Anglerboy — Trout fear me, Women want me. http://www.midtown.net/~angler/

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How about this one.  I’m standing on the bank, I’ve just finished a cast and my fly is trailing downstream in the current.  I tuck the rod under my elbow, and light up a smoke.  Right about the time I get the thing lit, a fish hits, pops the rod out and pulls it into the water, as I stumble around after it.

I had this same experince. Managed to hold on the rod though. Huge fish too. Brad

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  Lets get a thread going on various tactics for fishing streams and rivers. How about this one.  I’m standing on the bank, I’ve just finished a cast and my fly is trailing downstream in the current.  I tuck the rod under my elbow, and light up a smoke.  Right about the time I get the thing lit, a fish hits, pops the rod out and pulls it into the water, as I stumble around after it. Similarly, I use this cast to look at water ouzels, deer, bears and clouds. Anglerboy

I do this to fool the fish into thinking that I am unprepared.

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I think of low and slow conditions during the hot summer dregs on small streams and offer the following advice:  Terrestrials.  Change flies a lot. Try some weird stuff, the trout will surprise you.  If all else fails, ah-ooooga, Dive!  Dive! with a good bead head marabou bugger. — KennyM "I fish because I love to…" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, Lets get a thread going on various tactics for fishing streams and rivers. Casting considerations Anti Skating techniques Are some examples for topics of discussion. Regards – Michael

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Umm, I just found a bunch of tips from Buzz Ramesy and Tim Rajeff on the trophy rivers web site  covering flyfishing http://www.sierra.com/titles/rivers/trivers.html         "Salmon and steelhead gather                  near the river mouth before                 moving upstream to spawn.                They

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I have recently moved to Sydney (Australia) and would love to hear where there is good flyfishing reasonably close by (eg: up to half a day’s drive away). I would appreciate hearing other fisho’s thoughts. Thanks! Mat

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I have recently moved to Sydney (Australia) and would love to hear where there is good flyfishing reasonably close by (eg: up to half a day’s drive away). I would appreciate hearing other fisho’s thoughts. Thanks! Mat

G’day Mat, You should have a go at Lithgow (Lyell dam), Wallerawang (Lake Wallace), Mudgee (Windamere dam) or best of all Oberon (Oberon dam). These are all reasonably close to Sydney out via the Great Western Hwy. If fishing in lakes is not your style, I believe that there is some good ffishing in the Coxs & Turon Rivers (as well as the many other creeks and rivers in the area) – but I haven’t tried these, yet. Phil

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planning a four day trip over Bishop Pass with the object of climbing Mt. Sill. I haven’t done it yet, but am planning to by next year. I was planning on five days… day 1 to Dusy Basin, day 2 to Glacier Creek, summit on day 3, back to Dusy Basin on day 4, out on day 5. You might consider this, it makes more sense to me. If you do it in four, I’d love to hear about how it went! Cheers, Kevin

You should be able to do it in three.  South Lake to Barrett Lakes. Sill on day two and back out over Thunderbolt pass and Bishop Pass day three.

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Greetings all, We three not-so-young-but-in-very-good-shape guys with good backpacking experience but no climbing experience are planning a four day trip over Bishop Pass with the object of climbing Mt. Sill. I’ve done some research on this and have found out the SW chutes up Mt. Sill are rated at only class 2 (maybe some avoidable class 3 bits). We like the sound of that. We’ve got a couple questions, though, if anyone has been up that way and has wise words for us. 1) Should we try to camp in the Palisade Basin or go all the way to the Glacier Creek area? We’re not sure how difficult Potluck Pass would be with our packs. As I said, we’re in good shape, but we’re not real mountaineers. 2) Is there fishing in either the Barrett Lakes or in the lake at the head of Glacier Creek? My dad, who’s coming, is a big fly fisherman (though he’s not above using bait if he’s hungry enough and the fishing is really bad). This could influence our decision on where to camp. Mmmmm, trout. 3) Does anyone have any advice on the climb of Sill, other than to make for the Polemonium Glacier and turn NE up the chutes to the top of Sill? We figure we can do this in a long roundtrip with only day packs. We’re right about that, aren’t we? We’re not interested at this time in getting killed or rescued (I suppose we’d take the latter over the former, but the embarassment factor would be awfully high). Thanks so much for any information that might make this a better trip. We’re very excited and look forward to that beautiful late Summer Sierra weather. (We actually attempted this trip three years ago and got snowed out at the trailhead. We ended up driving South and climbing Mt. Whitney instead. That was lucky. So we know we are being a bit risky.) Again, thanks for any tips and I’ll post a trip report when we’re back. Franz —         But now almost finished dissertating in Los Angeles  N.B.: Disguised address; please remove "delete-this." if replying.

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Does anyone have any tips on flyfishing at Gold Lake (hwy 58) in Oregon?

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Does anyone have any tips on flyfishing at Gold Lake (hwy 58) in Oregon?

1. Take plenty of mosquito juice. 2. Small nymphs, dries, chronimids. 3. Enjoy Lake is full of 8" brookies and fewer larger rainbow.

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New Fly Fisherman in Central Maryland looking for someonne to go fishing with. Show me how to cast etc.

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There are several active fly fishing clubs in this area, and even more good fly shops. They are all great sources to meet new flyfishers who would be happy to help get you started. Good luck, and enjoy! — Tom Dougherty A.K.’s Fly Tying Tools http://www.aks-flytools.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – New Fly Fisherman in Central Maryland looking for someonne to go fishing with. Show me how to cast etc.

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I am rebuilding a 7wt and need a handle, prefer one with a small fighting butt,  Thanks, Jay

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I am rebuilding a 7wt and need a handle, prefer one with a small fighting butt,  Thanks, Jay

Hi Jay, The River’s Edge in Bozeman carries a good line of rod building components include Sage second blanks.  You can call them at 406-586-5373.  Good Luck. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html

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We are announcing the opening of a new full service flyfishing resort located in North Central Colorado, near Walden, Colorado.  The new lodge has a maximum capacity of 12 anglers per day and features gourmet foods, outstanding new accommodations and twelve miles of  private virgin headwaters of the North Platte that have never been fished by the public.  Excellent populations of browns, brookies, rainbows, cutthroats and cutbows (up to 5 lbs.) in the same water.  All walk and wade.  Guided.  Instruction available.  No extra costs.  Catch and release.  Tremendous variety of types of waters to fish.  For further information, check out http://little-grizzly-creek.com/lgc.html or e-mail to Co. Rd. #1,  Walden, Colorado.  80480.  970-723-4209

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We are announcing the opening of a new full service flyfishing resort located in North Central Colorado, near Walden, Colorado.  The new lodge has a maximum capacity of 12 anglers per day and features gourmet foods, outstanding new accommodations and twelve miles of  private virgin headwaters of the North Platte that have never been fished by the public.  Excellent populations of browns, brookies, rainbows, cutthroats and cutbows (up to 5 lbs.) in the same water.  All walk and wade.  Guided.  Instruction available.  No extra costs.  Catch and release.  Tremendous variety of types of waters to fish.  For further information, check out http://little-grizzly-creek.com/lgc.html or e-mail to Co. Rd. #1,  Walden, Colorado.  80480.  970-723-4209

There goes another one. There it goes again !. There goes another one. When will it ever end ?. TimW

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New?  New my ass…new if your new to the group…but i think most of us are tiring of this add by now… Dan Foster

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I’m planning a trip to the Yellowstone area in early September.  Does any one have advice on the best bets that time of year?  Any favorite places that you wouldn’t pass up if driving through the Park? Thanks for any help, Mike Fair

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Mike, …..theres a lot of fishing in and around the park. Call Dan Baillys(sp?) in Livingston or any other Fly Fishing store to get advise with in a week of your trip.The rivers in Montana are still high due to the heavy snows. I own Hawley Mt. guest Ranch 25 miles north of Yellowstone on the Boulder River and we offer lodging and fishing but we have a 4 day min. You can call me 406-932-5791 and I will be happy to tell you about the conditions.                                                                       Bryant BBlewett

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Mike, …..theres a lot of fishing in and around the park. Call Dan Baillys(sp?) in Livingston or any other Fly Fishing store to get advise with in a week of your trip.The rivers in Montana are still high due to the heavy snows. I own Hawley Mt. guest Ranch 25 miles north of Yellowstone on the Boulder River and we offer lodging and fishing but we have a 4 day min. You can call me 406-932-5791 and I will be happy to tell you about the conditions.                                                                      Bryant BBlewett

I was there a couple years ago for a week following Labor Day.  It turned out to be a great time to be in Yellowstone.  Most of the facilities were still open, but there weren’t very many people in the park.  Most of the  people who were there stayed on the busses or in the gift shops.  My wife and I were often by ourselves on the rivers or the hiking trails. I fished the Yellowstone in several spots, the Firehole and several of the creeks which feed into the Yellowstone.  The rivers were full of Cutthroat  I was recently recalling this trip and decided that I will return in September ‘97 to see if it was really as good as I remembered it. One warning, the park facilities only stay open for about two weeks after Labor Day, at which point everything by Old Faithful Lodge starts closing down. Please report back if you go this September. Tim Johnson

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Mike,  Everything should be fishing well at that time with the late runoff and all.  If the weather is warm the madison below Quake lake should be good for hoppers.  Many shops in West can supply flies and info. I hate driving in the park, but the uppper northeast area is a fav. spot.  Soda Butte creek towards Cooke City and even the Clarks Fork past Cooke City. Doug Stephens

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  If you would like a fact sheet on our knot and monofilament tests, e’ mail me your postal address and I’ll be happy to fire one off to you (open offer to anyone).   -Tight lines, Ralph

Hi Ralph, I would like to get your fact sheet regarding knot and monofilament tests. I also have a knot I use I would like to have tested. If you are interested I’ll make a short video on how to tie it so you can test it. I sure it will be great information. Thanks in advance for the information and all the advise/info you share on the group. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products 3020 Secor Ave Bozeman, MT 59715-6150 405-585-0745 (phone & fax)

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Actually, it’s not your casting.  The removable split shot slip badly, the "nonremovable" non-toxic shot are better, and actually not that difficult to remove with hemostats.  What I do, though, is tie an 18 inch or so tippet onto the regular tippet, and place the shot above the knot.  Of course, you have to keep replacing the tippet section as you go, but you’d have to replace the tippet anyway.

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When tying your tippet leave about a 4-5 inch tag end put your split shot on here and crimp well. Your weight won’t be directly on your line and when snagged you can usally pull it off with out losing your whole tippet . This will also keep your line off the abraisive bottom. I like to use Water-Gremlin BB size and smaller. If you have a problem with them sliding off, tie a knot at the bottom of the tag.

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Ralph Cutter writes:  A wind knot is stronger than a blood knot. -Ralph

–Maybe your blood knots are weaker then a wind knot Ralph, but I wouldn’t want to admit it, if I were you. Have you ever tried wetting the blood knots before setting them?         Grant.

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Ralph Cutter writes:  A wind knot is stronger than a blood knot. -Ralph –Maybe your blood knots are weaker then a wind knot Ralph, but I wouldn’t want to admit it, if I were you. Have you ever tried wetting the blood knots before setting them?        Grant.

Hi Grant-    We have an extremely accurate (annually certified to 1/100 of a lb) strain gauge device built strictly for testing monofilament and knots. We’ve run at least 500 blood knots through the machine in the past six weeks alone. It doesn’t mind "admitting" anything.    "Wind knots" are actually pretty strong. . . consistantly stronger than double surgeon’s, blood knots, or any other popular tippet joining knot.    Yes, we’ve been known to wet the line before setting the knot. In fact, we soak all of our lines for at least 1 hour in 70f water before testing them.    If you would like a fact sheet on our knot and monofilament tests, e’ mail me your postal address and I’ll be happy to fire one off to you (open offer to anyone).    -Tight lines, Ralph —

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Ralph Cutter writes:  A wind knot is stronger than a blood knot. -Ralph –Maybe your blood knots are weaker then a wind knot Ralph, but I wouldn’t want to admit it, if I were you. Have you ever tried wetting the blood knots before setting them?    Grant.

Hello Grant, The overhand knot is about 10-percent stronger than a blood knot. This, of course, is from independent research with a knot testing machine.  I also have heard it more than once from some very fine fishermen.  I also found it hard to believe.  A little independant research goes a long way. Paul J.

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Has anyone figured out an easy way to prevent a split shot from slipping down the tippet/leader to the fly?

I don’t have much trouble with them slipping as much as them sticking!  I think you just have to bite them on there tighter  My problems is that they really don’t come off and when they do, I’m afraid my tippet is damaged (which it probably is) so I end up replacing the whole section.  I never put shot on the leader.  I guess this is just one of those things that doesn’t have a decent answer. Big Hatches, Brad

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 It may seem like a silly question, but what the hey… Has anyone figured out an easy way to prevent a split shot from slipping down the tippet/leader to the fly? (Granted it probably is due to lousy casting technique…) Thanks in advance..

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Has anyone figured out an easy way to prevent a split shot from slipping down the tippet/leader to the fly?

If you put your split just above a blood or "wind" knot, this tends to hold them in place. Altough blood knots are more difficult to tie, are much stronger than those accidental wind knots which actually quite "sharp" for lack of a better term. Good Luck, Jojoe, New York City (Yeah, we FF here)

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Here’s what I do. Tie your fly well up the leader, leaving as much extra material as the water levels dictate. I usually leave anywhere from 6" to 10". Now you can do one of two things; 1.) You can tie a couple overhand knots one atop the other at the end of           the leader. Apply your shot and it will slide down to the knots and     give you great nearly snag proof drifts. 2.) You can tie a piece of tippett to the excess leader below the fly and     repeat the steps described above. Some anglers prefer this method     because it’s less destructive to the leader. Hope this helps, Tom.

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: Has anyone figured out an easy way to prevent a split shot from : slipping down the tippet/leader to the fly? : Tie a simple overhand knot around the split shot before crimping;  I haven’t had any failures on tippet larger than 5x. Bob Capistrant

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crimp the living crap out of it and don’t mess around with the little cutsie flyshop splits…get the removable ones from the drugs and guns store.

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Instead of a blood knot or "wind" knot, use a surgeons knot for tippet to leader connection, and put your shot immediately above this knot. Mike Fair

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Has anyone figured out an easy way to prevent a split shot from slipping down the tippet/leader to the fly? If you put your split just above a blood or "wind" knot, this tends to hold them in place. Altough blood knots are more difficult to tie, are much stronger than those accidental wind knots which actually quite "sharp" for lack of a better term.

   A wind knot is stronger than a blood knot. -Ralph —

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