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If you think that is weird, check out this; Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846. John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946. Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860. John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960. The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters. Both were particularly concerned with civil rights. Both wives lost their children while living in the White House. Both Presidents were shot on a Friday. Both were shot in the head. Lincoln’s secretary, Kennedy, warned him not to go to the theatre. Kennedy’s secretary, Lincoln, warned him not to go to Dallas. Both were assassinated by Southerners. Both were succeeded by Southerners. Both successors were named Johnson. Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808. Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908. John Wilkes Booth was born in 1839. Lee Harvey Oswald was born in 1939. Both assassins were known by their three names. Both names are comprised of fifteen letters Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse. Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater. Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials. Coincidence? Hardly… Your Bug – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – …and I`m not leaving. Your Bug Whatever.  Don’t get fixated on it and it will go away. Snookered again Collier, you whacko. Simple google search "nolio collier" points me to this page: http://www.cdkitchen.com/rfr/data/915228089.shtml There, the following is posted Newsgroups: rec.food.recipes If you’ve ever been to the Italian pizza restaurant Bertucci’s and dared to try one of their more unusual pizzas, you may be familar with this pizza which contains no tomato sauce…. Bertucci’s Nolio Pizza 1 medium yellow onion 1 tsp white pepper 1 cup heavy cream 1/2 lemon 1 – 1 1/2 cup shredded prosciutto 1 1/2 cup shredded mozzarella cheese 1 package Pilsbury pizza dough (or home made). Olive oil. Preheat oven to 400 F. Boil heavy cream until thickened. Add white pepper and the juice from a half of a lemon.   Slice onion very thin so that you are left with rings. Saute onion rings in olive oil until they are starting to get brown. Assemble pizza as follows: Unroll pizza dough onto a non-stick pizza pan. Add cheese, then prosciutto. (I like to add some pepperoni slices too).  Add the cream mixture at a time to the pizza, a tablespoon at a time, forming little puddles spread around the pizza. Drain the onions and put them on last. They will continue to carmelize as the pizza bakes.   Bake 8-10 minutes. Don’t over bake. You don’t want to "dry out" the pizza. You are sick, Collier.  Your need to be accepted is pitiful.  Print out these threads of the last couple of weeks, and take them to your shrink.   Tell him/her that you seek acceptance on ROFF because your frat brothers never accepted you, and beg him for help. Save your pride, and don’t take this as a challenge to come up with an alias that an idiot like me couldn’t bust.  You are a pitiful excuse for a human being, and getting more so rapidly. Also, what kind of idiot would poison a perfectly good pizza with heavy cream?

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Thanks, Wayne, Frank, Dave.   She’s out of danger now, just getting meds adjusted and the doctors popping in with contradictory opinions on when she can go home.  I think some want to keep her until they can track down the cause, rather than just letting her go when she seems okay.   It’s just wearing when everything to do with my kids or pets is always emergencies (okay, myself, too.).   When even the cats wait to get sick until the regular vet is closed, you know you’ve got a pattern going.  Although the dog never required a vet ER and my husband never even sees a regular doctor.  I have now seen the ERs of 5 different hospitals (not counting the ones I worked for in the long ago.) for actual emergencies.  Some of them more than once.   She sympathized with me about camping and fishing.  Said if she were in my spot, she’d want to go, too.  Heck, even though she hates camping and has never fished, she’d probably rather be doing that then trying to con the nurses in to taking her out for a cigarette. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless Hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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cyli writes: BTW, I do cook; sometimes very oddly, though.  

You and I would get along very well.  Hope your daughter is better. Dave

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You can’t imagine how much more I’d rather be camping and fishing than visiting a hospital.  Or listening to a getting well cranky adult around the house.  Okay, maybe you can.  20 randy old guys would be a breeze. BTW, I do cook; sometimes very oddly, though. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless

My best to you and yours.  Hope all is better soonest. — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply

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Mom and daughter both, HANG IN THERE!  Remember Nancy’s web site I sent you? Go there and drop her a note to let her know what’s going on with your daughter trial’s and tribulations.  I think you’ll find her a great person to "talk" to.  Her insights can be most enlightening. — Wayne To Fish is Human…To Release Divine!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thanks, but my next week promises to be almost as nasty as last, except it seems my daughter _is_ likely to live.  But the only day off she’s giving me from visiting her in the hospital is tomorrow (today? Sunday, anyway.).   What are the odds an apparently healthy 30 year old woman would suddenly come down with clots all over her body? Doctors are going nuts (always a good sign, means they’re working hard at discovering the cause.).  They thought she’d be coming home on about Monday or Tuesday, but complications have ensued. You can’t imagine how much more I’d rather be camping and fishing than visiting a hospital.  Or listening to a getting well cranky adult around the house.  Okay, maybe you can.  20 randy old guys would be a breeze. BTW, I do cook; sometimes very oddly, though. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless Hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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Say, the guy who was supposed to go down to Cape Lookout with me this coming weekend has to fly to Europe instead.  Lots of False Albacore and camping on the beach.  If you can get to Richmond by Thursday evening and bring your basic camping stuff, I have an extra Albacore rig and room in the car.  Just think! 20 randy old guys out on a spit of sand in the Atlantic and ONE woman!! (do you cook?)   BTW, The invitation is for reel!

Thanks, but my next week promises to be almost as nasty as last, except it seems my daughter _is_ likely to live.  But the only day off she’s giving me from visiting her in the hospital is tomorrow (today? Sunday, anyway.).   What are the odds an apparently healthy 30 year old woman would suddenly come down with clots all over her body? Doctors are going nuts (always a good sign, means they’re working hard at discovering the cause.).  They thought she’d be coming home on about Monday or Tuesday, but complications have ensued. You can’t imagine how much more I’d rather be camping and fishing than visiting a hospital.  Or listening to a getting well cranky adult around the house.  Okay, maybe you can.  20 randy old guys would be a breeze.   BTW, I do cook; sometimes very oddly, though.   — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless Hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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Say, the guy who was supposed to go down to Cape Lookout with me this coming weekend has to fly to Europe instead.  Lots of False Albacore and camping on the beach.  If you can get to Richmond by Thursday evening and bring your basic camping stuff, I have an extra Albacore rig and room in the car.  Just think! 20 randy old guys out on a spit of sand in the Atlantic and ONE woman!! (do you cook?)   BTW, The invitation is for reel! — Wayne To Fish is Human…To Release Divine!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Who cares? You came on with all the same errors he did, so whether or not you’re him is immaterial to those of us who are or are studying to be assholes. Maybe you were twins separated at birth? …and I`m not leaving. Okay. Your Bug Not mine.  It can take years of good posts and good manners to make me mellow out.   For my first 5 years or so of electronic communications I was regarded as kindly and forgiving.  I got over it.  For the next 5 years or so, I only took out after the occasional user who reminded me of a horde of black flies.  I got over that, too.  Now I can take offense at mere gnats, if their timing is right and their promise is of growth. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless Hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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Rest Your case! Without further checking of the accuracy of your facts, this obviously proves that the asassinations were planned and performed by the same "Firm", maybe they should be a bit more inventious in their planning… There is a lawyer in the house, what do You say?? Coincidence #2: John Kennedy (Toole) wrote of a confederacy of dunces, You wrote of a confederacy against John (F) Kennedy… Weird world this! Stefan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you think that is weird, check out this; Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846. John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946. Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860. John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960. The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters. Both were particularly concerned with civil rights. Both wives lost their children while living in the White House. Both Presidents were shot on a Friday. Both were shot in the head. Lincoln’s secretary, Kennedy, warned him not to go to the theatre. Kennedy’s secretary, Lincoln, warned him not to go to Dallas. Both were assassinated by Southerners. Both were succeeded by Southerners. Both successors were named Johnson. Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808. Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908. John Wilkes Booth was born in 1839. Lee Harvey Oswald was born in 1939. Both assassins were known by their three names. Both names are comprised of fifteen letters Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse. Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater. Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials. Coincidence? Hardly… Your Bug

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – …and I`m not leaving. Your Bug Whatever.  Don’t get fixated on it and it will go away. Snookered again Collier, you whacko. Simple google search "nolio collier" points me to this page: http://www.cdkitchen.com/rfr/data/915228089.shtml There, the following is posted Newsgroups: rec.food.recipes If you’ve ever been to the Italian pizza restaurant Bertucci’s and dared to try one of their more unusual pizzas, you may be familar with this pizza which contains no tomato sauce…. Bertucci’s Nolio Pizza 1 medium yellow onion 1 tsp white pepper 1 cup heavy cream 1/2 lemon 1 – 1 1/2 cup shredded prosciutto 1 1/2 cup shredded mozzarella cheese 1 package Pilsbury pizza dough (or home made). Olive oil. Preheat oven to 400 F. Boil heavy cream until thickened. Add white pepper and the juice from a half of a lemon.   Slice onion very thin so that you are left with rings. Saute onion rings in olive oil until they are starting to get brown. Assemble pizza as follows: Unroll pizza dough onto a non-stick pizza pan. Add cheese, then prosciutto. (I like to add some pepperoni slices too).  Add the cream mixture at a time to the pizza, a tablespoon at a time, forming little puddles spread around the pizza. Drain the onions and put them on last. They will continue to carmelize as the pizza bakes.   Bake 8-10 minutes. Don’t over bake. You don’t want to "dry out" the pizza. You are sick, Collier.  Your need to be accepted is pitiful.  Print out these threads of the last couple of weeks, and take them to your shrink. Tell him/her that you seek acceptance on ROFF because your frat brothers never accepted you, and beg him for help. Save your pride, and don’t take this as a challenge to come up with an alias that an idiot like me couldn’t bust.  You are a pitiful excuse for a human being, and getting more so rapidly. Also, what kind of idiot would poison a perfectly good pizza with heavy cream?

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Who cares?   You came on with all the same errors he did, so whether or not you’re him is immaterial to those of us who are or are studying to be assholes. Maybe you were twins separated at birth?   …and I`m not leaving.

Okay. Your Bug

Not mine.  It can take years of good posts and good manners to make me mellow out.   For my first 5 years or so of electronic communications I was regarded as kindly and forgiving.  I got over it.  For the next 5 years or so, I only took out after the occasional user who reminded me of a horde of black flies.  I got over that, too.  Now I can take offense at mere gnats, if their timing is right and their promise is of growth. — rbc:  vixen    Fairly harmless Hit reply to email. Though I’m very slow to respond. http://www.visi.com/~cyli

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…and I`m not leaving.

Wow, are you pathetic.  You even went to the trouble of locating the incorrect apostrophe on your keyboard.  Really sad.

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Nicely done. Though, in truth, you needn’t have bothered, as with the possible exception of Citizen Luser himself, everyone here knew he and "nolio" were one and the same pathetic moron f*ckwit… /daytripper (On him from the jump.)

It’s kind of like a sore festering under a bandage.  You know it’s ugly, but you just have to lift the bandage to look anyway. — Scott Reverse first field of address to reply

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find other posts from this gentleman. He lives in Iowa. However, he did make a purchase on eBay… In fact, do a search on Michael Collier, and see how common that name is. Admittedly, the coincidence is stunning. Very sloppy investigative work, though. You did not complete your research. You would get torn apart on cross-examination. Anyway, good luck, Bug. We will see how long you can withstand the constant affronts to your common sense. This is one weird place. — Citizen Fisherman I promote Waterloo rods www.waterloorods.com

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Snookered again Collier, you whacko.

I’ve come across some pathetic losers on Usenet, but Collier takes the prize.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – …and I`m not leaving. Your Bug Whatever.  Don’t get fixated on it and it will go away. Snookered again Collier, you whacko. Simple google search "nolio collier" points me to this page: http://www.cdkitchen.com/rfr/data/915228089.shtml There, the following is posted Newsgroups: rec.food.recipes If you’ve ever been to the Italian pizza restaurant Bertucci’s and dared to try one of their more unusual pizzas, you may be familar with this pizza which contains no tomato sauce…. Bertucci’s Nolio Pizza 1 medium yellow onion 1 tsp white pepper 1 cup heavy cream 1/2 lemon 1 – 1 1/2 cup shredded prosciutto 1 1/2 cup shredded mozzarella cheese 1 package Pilsbury pizza dough (or home made). Olive oil. Preheat oven to 400 F. Boil heavy cream until thickened. Add white pepper and the juice from a half of a lemon.   Slice onion very thin so that you are left with rings. Saute onion rings in olive oil until they are starting to get brown. Assemble pizza as follows: Unroll pizza dough onto a non-stick pizza pan. Add cheese, then prosciutto. (I like to add some pepperoni slices too).  Add the cream mixture at a time to the pizza, a tablespoon at a time, forming little puddles spread around the pizza. Drain the onions and put them on last. They will continue to carmelize as the pizza bakes.   Bake 8-10 minutes. Don’t over bake. You don’t want to "dry out" the pizza. You are sick, Collier.  Your need to be accepted is pitiful.  Print out these threads of the last couple of weeks, and take them to your shrink.   Tell him/her that you seek acceptance on ROFF because your frat brothers never accepted you, and beg him for help. Save your pride, and don’t take this as a challenge to come up with an alias that an idiot like me couldn’t bust.  You are a pitiful excuse for a human being, and getting more so rapidly.

Nicely done. Though, in truth, you needn’t have bothered, as with the possible exception of Citizen Luser himself, everyone here knew he and "nolio" were one and the same pathetic moron f*ckwit… /daytripper (On him from the jump.)

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…and I`m not leaving. Your Bug

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…and I`m not leaving. Your Bug

Whatever.  Don’t get fixated on it and it will go away.

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…and I`m not leaving.

Your stuff is much more interesting than the cross posted environmental drivel.

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…and I`m not leaving. Your Bug Whatever.  Don’t get fixated on it and it will go away.

Snookered again Collier, you whacko. Simple google search "nolio collier" points me to this page: http://www.cdkitchen.com/rfr/data/915228089.shtml There, the following is posted Newsgroups: rec.food.recipes If you’ve ever been to the Italian pizza restaurant Bertucci’s and dared to try one of their more unusual pizzas, you may be familar with this pizza which contains no tomato sauce…. Bertucci’s Nolio Pizza 1 medium yellow onion 1 tsp white pepper 1 cup heavy cream 1/2 lemon 1 – 1 1/2 cup shredded prosciutto 1 1/2 cup shredded mozzarella cheese 1 package Pilsbury pizza dough (or home made). Olive oil. Preheat oven to 400 F. Boil heavy cream until thickened. Add white pepper and the juice from a half of a lemon.   Slice onion very thin so that you are left with rings. Saute onion rings in olive oil until they are starting to get brown. Assemble pizza as follows: Unroll pizza dough onto a non-stick pizza pan. Add cheese, then prosciutto. (I like to add some pepperoni slices too).  Add the cream mixture at a time to the pizza, a tablespoon at a time, forming little puddles spread around the pizza. Drain the onions and put them on last. They will continue to carmelize as the pizza bakes.   Bake 8-10 minutes. Don’t over bake. You don’t want to "dry out" the pizza. You are sick, Collier.  Your need to be accepted is pitiful.  Print out these threads of the last couple of weeks, and take them to your shrink.   Tell him/her that you seek acceptance on ROFF because your frat brothers never accepted you, and beg him for help. Save your pride, and don’t take this as a challenge to come up with an alias that an idiot like me couldn’t bust.  You are a pitiful excuse for a human being, and getting more so rapidly. Also, what kind of idiot would poison a perfectly good pizza with heavy cream? — Scott Reverse first field of address to reply

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Also, what kind of idiot would poison a perfectly good pizza with heavy cream?

It’s pretty popular actually.  Not something you would want to eat all the time, but it can be pretty tasty!

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Anyone able to help out here with there experiences,I currently use SA xps WF7 on this rod and find it not a problem at all . Any body else experienced this. I feel the rod acts more like 7wt not 5 wt…..

You may be right.  I also use SA xps, but a DT5 in gray.  A stealthier approach for me. The rod has both grace and power.  I just love fishing it. Regards, jacknoir

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I have a 590SP.  I use a 6wt. Orvis Wonderline and it works great! Good luck, Forrest — Forrest http://www.FlyFishingREVIEW.com FlyFishingREVIEW.com Before you buy.

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I am interested in your use of a DT on your SP590.  Sounds like the two lines (the DT5 and tyhe WF7) cover a pretty wide range of situations with the same rod.  Like fishing a bigassed river one day, and a little meadow crawler the next., with the same rod. Is that what you are after? Sage touts the "reserve power" bit on the SPs. Does the overlining kick it in? Ill have to try it. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone able to help out here with there experiences,I currently use SA xps WF7 on this rod and find it not a problem at all . Any body else experienced this. I feel the rod acts more like 7wt not 5 wt….. You may be right.  I also use SA xps, but a DT5 in gray.  A stealthier approach for me. The rod has both grace and power.  I just love fishing it. Regards, jacknoir

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Most good quality rods will handle several line sizes.  The size recommended by the maker is usually that size that most people would find works well under most conditions…and allows the rod to properly load at normal fishing distances…and for the designated action of the rod to come into play.  Most flyfishers have their own casting styles and fishing situations that are unique to them….and, as a consequence, tend to prefer certain actions on the rods with which they fish.  So…it’s not unusual to find flyfishers that will find a different weight line working better for them on a selected rod when that line weight is different than the recommended weight.  And, it is not unusual to find that fisherman disagree on the best line weight for a particular rod.  Also factoring in the type of fishing and the distance of your normal casts, affects what line is "best" for a particular rod.  Many flyfishers, myself included, tend to use several line weights on a rod….depending on the fishing situation at hand.  However, on the Sage LL rods, I pretty much stick to the manufacturers suggested weights as they work best for me…and I don’t like a much slower rod than the LL Sage…so I don’t overline it.  Now…the SPplus Sage is another matter…and I have overlined it by one and even two sizes at times….ditto on the RPLplus.  I recall a disagreement that I once had with the Harry Wilson (from Scott Rods a number of years ago) regarding a ten weight Scott that I bought.  I could put a thirteen weight on that rod and still feel that it was underlined.  Harry and I argued about that rod for a long time. I ended up returning it.  In retrospect, my casting style and the action that I wanted to bring out in the rod were vastly different than Harry’s. So…we were both right in the sense that we knew what worked best for us as individuals. Barry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Anyone able to help out here with there experiences,I currently use SA xps WF7 on this rod and find it not a problem at all . Any body else experienced this. I feel the rod acts more like 7wt not 5 wt….. You may be right.  I also use SA xps, but a DT5 in gray.  A stealthier approach for me. The rod has both grace and power.  I just love fishing it. Regards, jacknoir

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Also, while learning to fly cast or for those who never learn, many will overline their rods a few sizes. There are some rods that are so stiff and powerful that they must be overlined for everyone.

If this is intended to say that experienced casters don’t like to go up a line weight, then I’ll disagree. I’ve read that Joan Wulff says she routinely goes up a line weight. I fish a Winston IM6 4 weight with 6 weight line in situations where I have to make longer roll casts or cope with some wind. It handles the heavier line with aplomb. Yes, aplomb. I’ve never been in a situation where it couldn’t handle the amount of line I was trying to cast (which is probably a max of 60 feet). Rick

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Anyone able to help out here with there experiences,I currently use SA xps WF7 on this rod and find it not a problem at all . Any body else experienced this. I feel the rod acts more like 7wt not 5 wt…..

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Anyone able to help out here with there experiences,I currently use SA xps WF7 on this rod and find it not a problem at all . Any body else experienced this. I feel the rod acts more like 7wt not 5 wt…..

Hi All, I have seen this situation for many years. We all have a different casting strokes or styles. Some of us are high speed, tip casters and some, like this gentleman, have a slow stroke where he loads the rod way down into the butt. This is nothing new. I use a weight forward 5 floating line on that rod and it works fine for me. some of my fishing partners would use a #6 line. Not too many would use a #7 line.  I think a #7 line would start to over load that rod at 50+ feet. Also, while learning to fly cast or for those who never learn, many will overline their rods a few sizes. There are some rods that are so stiff and powerful that they must be overlined for everyone. PS: I might be wrong, but I think that the largest XPS is a #6????? Maybe it is a new GPX or maybe I am wrong?

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I will be going to the Florida Keys this summer. Is there good flyfishing around the islands (I want to wade from the shoreline as opposed to hiring a guide or renting a boat). I’ve heard that some good flyfishing can be had around the mangroves. Any suggestions on techniques and fly patterns would be appreciated. Thanks. Steve

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I will be going to the Florida Keys this summer. Is there good flyfishing around the islands (I want to wade from the shoreline as opposed to hiring a guide or renting a boat). I’ve heard that some good flyfishing can be had around the mangroves. Any suggestions on techniques and fly patterns would be appreciated. Thanks. Steve

I’m also looking at going to the Florida Keys, but probably in September.  I’d also be interested in some flyfishing opportunities. I don’t have much of a problem renting a boat (and in fact, one of the places that I am considering staying at includes a 15′ motorboat with the accomodations) but would rather not spend $100 or more for a guide on what is already going to be a rather expensive vacation. John Fereira

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<big snip  but would rather not spend $100 or more for a guide on what is already going to be a rather expensive vacation.

$100? Geez john I don’t know where you’d find a guide in the keys for $100. More like $350. Phil Koenig Manhattan Custom Tackle Ltd. http://fishdoc.com "I’m the boss, so WHATEVER I say is OK."

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<big snip but would rather not spend $100 or more for a guide on what is already going to be a rather expensive vacation. $100? Geez john I don’t know where you’d find a guide in the keys for $100. More like $350.

As I told Phil in email, that’s absurd.  Even more absurd than a guide that would charge $350 for a day of fishing is that someone would actually pay someone that much.  What do you actually get for that amount of money.  A ride on a boat, probably the use of a fly rod and flies, and someone standing on a boat pointing out fish and telling you to catch it. One of the places that I am considering staying at is about $140 a night and that *includes* the use of a boat with a 15HP motor on it for getting out to the flats.  That’s for two people.  Either way there is no guarentee that I’m going to catch anything.  TimW’s right. "A cash flow runs through it." John Fereira

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I find it incredible that people who have no idea of what they are talking about, still manage to have an opinion and put it in writing. Have you ever fished the Florida Flats with a guide? Do you have any idea of what you are talking about? Until you you have, keep your advice to yourself. Paul Bunchuk PNB Graphics Ft. Lauderdale, Fl <<)))` For Tarpon Fishing – please visit:

http://www.geocities.com/~tarponhunter – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <big snip but would rather not spend $100 or more for a guide on what is already going to be a rather expensive vacation. $100? Geez john I don’t know where you’d find a guide in the keys for $100. More like $350. As I told Phil in email, that’s absurd.  Even more absurd than a guide that would charge $350 for a day of fishing is that someone would actually pay someone that much.  What do you actually get for that amount of money.  A ride on a boat, probably the use of a fly rod and flies, and someone standing on a boat pointing out fish and telling you to catch it. One of the places that I am considering staying at is about $140 a night and that *includes* the use of a boat with a 15HP motor on it for getting out to the flats.  That’s for two people.  Either way there is no guarentee that I’m going to catch anything.  TimW’s right. "A cash flow runs through it." John Fereira

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Well, I have fished with a guide in the Florida Keys and paid $350 to catch nothing.  The incredible thing to me is that the guide expects a tip even if you catch nothing.  I spent my money on a flats boat. The months payment is less than one day with a guide. That’s my opinion and I think I – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I find it incredible that people who have no idea of what they are talking about, still manage to have an opinion and put it in writing. Have you ever fished the Florida Flats with a guide? Do you have any idea of what you are talking about? Until you you have, keep your advice to yourself. Paul Bunchuk PNB Graphics Ft. Lauderdale, Fl <<)))` For Tarpon Fishing – please visit: http://www.geocities.com/~tarponhunter <big snip but would rather not spend $100 or more for a guide on what is already going to be a rather expensive vacation. $100? Geez john I don’t know where you’d find a guide in the keys for $100. More like $350. As I told Phil in email, that’s absurd.  Even more absurd than a guide that would charge $350 for a day of fishing is that someone would actually pay someone that much.  What do you actually get for that amount of money.  A ride on a boat, probably the use of a fly rod and flies, and someone standing on a boat pointing out fish and telling you to catch it. One of the places that I am considering staying at is about $140 a night and that *includes* the use of a boat with a 15HP motor on it for getting out to the flats.  That’s for two people.  Either way there is no guarentee that I’m going to catch anything.  TimW’s right. "A cash flow runs through it." John Fereira

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I find it incredible that people who have no idea of what they are talking about, still manage to have an opinion and put it in writing. Have you ever fished the Florida Flats with a guide? Do you have any idea of what you are talking about? Until you you have, keep your advice to yourself.

No, I haven’t fished the Florida flats with a guide, but I do understand how the cost of services can be driven up by supply and demand.  Perhaps you can explain to me some other justification for charging someone $350 a day for a guides services.  Please itemize expenses involved.  Guides that charge $350 a day, and people that continue to pay it, are making flyfishing a rich mans sport.  Whether you like it or not I will continue to lobby to keep flyfishing an advocation for the common man (or woman). I will continue to offer my opinion to anyone that will listen that guides are charging excessive prices and that we, the common angler, should not pay them.   If you don’t like it, tough.   John Fereira

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Get Dick Brown’s book "Bonefish Fly Patterns". It will be a great help to you. Good Luck!

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Hello all, can anyone suggest the flies I should use while fishing for Bonefish in the Carribbean in late June??  (Esp. the easiest ones to tie) Thanks in advance. Eric Meier

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Hello all, can anyone suggest the flies I should use while fishing for Bonefish in the Carribbean in late June??  (Esp. the easiest ones to tie) Thanks in advance. Eric Meier

Crazy Charlies are the most popular and simple patterns. I would tie pearl, gold, root beer, olive and pink. Use size mostly #4/6 in Mustad 3407 or 34007 hooks. Use #6/8 in Tiemco 800S or 811S hooks as they run a little bigger than Mustad. No eyes for Turtle grass bottoms. Bead chain eyes on some and chrome lead eyes on others for deeper sand bottoms or tide currents. Try to get a guide. You can call me at 800/4000FLY. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY

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I would like to buy waders for my wife, a very small woman. I want gore-tex or supplex or a very light well made pair – any suggestions? Thanks, Fred Lebow

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I would like to buy waders for my wife, a very small woman. I want gore-tex or supplex or a very light well made pair – any suggestions?

    Simms makes their Gore-Tex waders in a wide range of sizes including some that are more suitable for women than the normal cut.  If you can find a local store than handles them, they should be able to call Simms and get direct advice as to the best size to order. — Lloyd Fortney http://www.phy.duke.edu/~fortney/lrf_home_page.html has links to my garden, flower, flyfishing, and travel JPEG images as well as teaching, research, and stuff like that

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Seems like a reasonable trade. TimW {I just *love* that joke, it is ageless}

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Seems like a reasonable trade. {I just *love* that joke, it is ageless}

As evidenced by the number of times you’ve used it…:) Ross

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I would like to buy waders for my wife, a very small woman. I want gore-tex or supplex or a very light well made pair – any suggestions?

Two sources are Orvis and Damselfly. I’m at work or I’d post the phone #’s from my catalogues (both at home). — Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Disclaimer: Over 30 and born in Fredericton, NB

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I spoke to a guy in a Kalispell flyshop and he told me all the streams were blown out with melt. I will be traveling MT between Kalispell and Helena next week on business but should be able to fish 1-2 days. Where should I go? The flyshop guy said they were doing great at the pothole lakes near Browning. That’s way to far out of my route for me. Thanks. I hope this spring brings many scrappy fish to your lines.

Hi David, Yes most streams here in Montana are high and dirty with spring run off. One area you might check is Libby, Montana. The first 4 miles of the Kootenai River below the dam remains fairly clean during runoff and may very well be your only shot. 4 miles down stream from the dam the Fisher River will probably be pouring a lot of dirty water into the system. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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The problem you have is that you talked to the fellow at Kalispell last week, and you’re coming next week.  At this time of year, that is an eternity!  In the spring, conditions are volatile.  After 10 days of cold weather, most everything is down again.  If it warms up, it will come back up. If it stays cool, the rivers stay down. You have a couple of options on how you go to Kalispell from Helena.  If you go north from Helena, the Missouri below Holter Dam has come down and is offering some good midge dry fly fishing(if the wind isn’t blowing).  You can wade that stretch of the river, and there are several fly shops in Wolf Creek and Craig, Montana.  If you go west to Missoula and then up to Kalispell you could fish Rock Creek or maybe the Bitteroot south of Missoula.  I’d recommend you talk to the fellows at Grizzly Hackle in Missoula about that fishing.   Dave Kumlien, Montana Troutfitters,Bozeman html

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I spoke to a guy in a Kalispell flyshop and he told me all the streams were blown out with melt. I will be traveling MT between Kalispell and Helena next week on business but should be able to fish 1-2 days. Where should I go? The flyshop guy said they were doing great at the pothole lakes near Browning. That’s way to far out of my route for me. Thanks. I hope this spring brings many scrappy fish to your lines.

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I spoke to a guy in a Kalispell flyshop and he told me all the streams were blown out with melt. I will be traveling MT between Kalispell and Helena next week on business but should be able to fish 1-2 days. Where should I go? The flyshop guy said they were doing great at the pothole lakes near Browning. That’s way to far out of my route for me. Thanks. I hope this spring brings many scrappy fish to your lines.

Rock Creek is fishing pretty good…has is the Bitterroot..but it is pretty high.

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I read in Sunday’s Muskegon Chroncle, and have heard through FlyFishing Magazine, that the Muskegon is a potential wealth of fishing.  Can anybody elaborate on that? And give me direction to where the best place is to access the river.  I live in Muskegon, but access to the river is by boat only.  I read that Newago is the place.  Please stay tuned in July for my Michigan FlyFishing WWW Page. http://www.novagate.com/novasurfers/bscheere/bc.html (you can access my trial page now). Thanks, Ben

You can contact Blair Shaw, owner of the Tarry Motel in Baldwin, MI, for info on the Muskegon.  Blair is a good guide.  I was steelhead FFishing with him on the Muskegon this past spring with his new jetboat.  It was my son’s first time out and he landed his first steely that cold rainy day. You can reach Blair at 616-745-3137.  Tell him Matt gave you his number.

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says… I read in Sunday’s Muskegon Chroncle, and have heard through FlyFishing Magazine, that the Muskegon is a potential wealth of fishing.  Can anybody elaborate on that? And give me direction to where the best place is to access the river.  I live in Muskegon, but access to the river is by boat only.  I read that Newago is the place.  Please stay tuned in July for my Michigan FlyFishing WWW Page. http://www.novagate.com/novasurfers/bscheere/bc.html (you can access my trial page now). Thanks, Ben

Please note my correct Email: Thanks, BEN

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I read in Sunday’s Muskegon Chroncle, and have heard through FlyFishing Magazine, that the Muskegon is a potential wealth of fishing.  Can anybody elaborate on that? And give me direction to where the best place is to access the river.  I live in Muskegon, but access to the river is by boat only.  I read that Newago is the place.  Please stay tuned in July for my Michigan FlyFishing WWW Page. http://www.novagate.com/novasurfers/bscheere/bc.html (you can access my trial page now). Thanks, Ben

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: Just started fly fishing this past fall ( mostly Greate Lakes Steelhead ). : This Saturday is the opening day of trout season here in NY. : I was hoping someone could recommend some patterns that may work this : early in the season on hatchery type ‘put and take’ type rainbows : ( we don’t practice the ‘take part’ ). —PCR         For stockers some of the classics flies are the best:  Gold Ribbed Hare’s Ear’s, Adams, Wulff dries, Wooly Worms, and Wooley Buggers.  For the nymphs and the dries, you want to fish big, like size 12 and 14.  You can also use stonefly nymphs or hellagrammites in sizes 6-10.  Stocked fish often just like something they can see.  Glo bugs should work alright on the stockers.

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Early season flies that work great in the Syracuse area are pheasant tail, both bead headed & traditional, picket pin, wooly bugger (various colors), and G.R. Hares ear. P.S. on Sunday, I saw some Quill Gordon duns flirting about on Limestone Creek here in Syracuse. G.R. Hares Ear should work, sizes 16, 18. PH – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just started fly fishing this past fall ( mostly Greate Lakes Steelhead ). This Saturday is the opening day of trout season here in NY. I was hoping someone could recommend some patterns that may work this early in the season on hatchery type ‘put and take’ type rainbows ( we don’t practice the ‘take part’ ). Have been having alot of success using glo-bugs and frammus patterns on 3 – 10 pound Rainbows but aren’t sure what to use on the smaller (10 – 12 inch ) stockers.   Thanks in advance PCR

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just started fly fishing this past fall ( mostly Greate Lakes Steelhead ). This Saturday is the opening day of trout season here in NY. I was hoping someone could recommend some patterns that may work this early in the season on hatchery type ‘put and take’ type rainbows ( we don’t practice the ‘take part’ ). Have been having alot of success using glo-bugs and frammus patterns on 3 – 10 pound Rainbows but aren’t sure what to use on the smaller (10 – 12 inch ) stockers.   Thanks in advance PCR

On the 10 -12 inch stockers , you should use PELLET FLIES!!!!!!                Greg

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Woolly Buggers are killers for the stockers.  Black, Olive and "Grizzly" colors are great.  Purple & Black have worked great, too. And, if you really want to catch a stocker out of a put &take stream, tip your wooly bugger with a berkley power grub (eek, did he say "BAIT"?) Yep.  If you want to catch fish. Jim Elias Blue Grass IA H.Y.M.R.

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Just started fly fishing this past fall ( mostly Greate Lakes Steelhead ). This Saturday is the opening day of trout season here in NY. I was hoping someone could recommend some patterns that may work this early in the season on hatchery type ‘put and take’ type rainbows ( we don’t practice the ‘take part’ ). Have been having alot of success using glo-bugs and frammus patterns on 3 – 10 pound Rainbows but aren’t sure what to use on the smaller (10 – 12 inch ) stockers.   Thanks in advance PCR

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I have a short list of about a dozen fishing books (mostly fly fishing) these are out-of-print or first edition copies.  If you collect books on fishing, or just love to read about it (you probably do if you are on this list)  you might enjoy my occasional lists of sporting books. Thank you for reading. David Holloway

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Iam looking for a copy of "the compleat angler"can you help. nav9200

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I know this issue has been kicked around recently. I apoligize for the repetition. If you can help please answer by e-mail to eliminate traffic. 1. Who supplies Cabela with their blanks? 2. What is the Cabela C44X equivalent to in other brands? 3. What is the Cabela HML equivalent to in other brands? 4. Has anyone built either of these models? Opinion? Thanks for any assistance. Answer by e-mail please. Skip Summer

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Similar thread, but who supplies Winston with their blanks?   —    J. Chandler Hall        Intergraph Computer Systems                 (205) 730-4127

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Similar thread, but who supplies Winston with their blanks?   The answer is that Winston is now manufacturing their own blanks in thier new factory which just got started late last fall.  Prior to that, Winston got thier blanks from Loomis.  In recent years, Winston has beenexperienceing more and more rejections of the Loomis blanks.  Tiem will tell if the new blanks are as good as the old.  One current problem, however, is that virtually all of the production is going to the manufacture of finished rods and few blanks are availble for rodbuilders. I have been waiting for blanks since October.                                               Dallas, TX                                               Ennis, MT

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but has just recently started making their own. Inge

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