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Pounding, powerful and relentless, against uncaring and eternal sand, each wave seems to reach a little further, striving for the spot on which I stand. Two steps forward, three steps back, the dance is similar for every cast, a constant rhythm, lulling and relaxing, who knows how much time has passed? Feet, sinking in, requiring that one shuffle now and then, a welcome break, Casting, waiting, watching, senses tensed, hoping  for the long expected take. Was that a bite? Or merely seaweed drifting in the current, dead, but active still, Perhaps a wily seatrout or a cod, just mouthed the fly, and moves in for the kill? Shooting stars distract, hurtling brilliant through the cold and crackling winter night, freezing fingers, cold protesting feet, red face and dripping nose, a sorry plight, legs, slowly turning numb, arms aching from the constant and unceasing strain, rod held high. above the waves, each tiny pluck and movement causes pain Swimming, hopefully enticingly, the fly, spurred on by faith and hope and thought, approaches yet again the crashing waves, hovers for a moment, once more caught, capricious currents, drive it, to wobble, shimmer, shake and  twist and bend. much like the thoughts of  he, who patient and persistent, holds fast the other end. At last! A solid take, and line runs freely from the spool, twenty yards or more, Rod bends, arms tense, back bends, heels dig deeper into crumbling shore, the battle wages, fish and man, bound now by tenuous strands, far mightier than steel, commence to measure, each their skill, with each run and leap, each hard-won turn of reel. Eyes, long since accustomed to the starry night, still strain to see a glimpse or flash, who knows what might have taken? and then the fish leaps, falling with a mighty splash, a silver ghost, a monster, a prize beyond compare, rising from the dark and restless deep, how long and hard must angler fight, before he be allowed his prize to land and keep? Hours and nights, long winters, in cold and storm,  for many  seasons he has stood, searching, learning, hoping,  waiting, to gain just such a prize, from the raging flood, Alas, this night, although he uses every trick and all his skill, it is simply not to be, almost within his grasp, his prize spits contemptuously the hook, and sinks into the sea. Freezing now, disconsolate, gear is packed, and angler turns to home along the beach, the prize is gone, but angler knows, that this time it was very nearly well within his reach, there will be other nights, perhaps indeed much greater prizes, things well beyond compare, should you seek such, haste to the beach, you will find angler, watching, waiting, hoping, there. TL MC

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Thanks, Mike. Danl Pounding, powerful and relentless, against uncaring and eternal sand, each wave seems to reach a little further, striving for the spot on which I

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OK Mike you are starting to worry me. As always I enjoy your dissertations and sharp wit.  However this is another long message, why are you spending this much time in front of the computer instead of fishing?  Your current posts are what I would expect to see in January and February not in August. Just askin a question Dave —

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Pounding, powerful and relentless, against uncaring and eternal sand, each wave seems to reach a little further, striving for the spot on which I stand. Two steps forward, three steps back, the dance is similar for every cast, a constant rhythm, lulling and relaxing, who knows how much time has passed? Feet, sinking in, requiring that one shuffle now and then, a welcome break, Casting, waiting, watching, senses tensed, hoping  for the long expected take. Was that a bite? Or merely seaweed drifting in the current, dead, but active still, Perhaps a wily seatrout or a cod, just mouthed the fly, and moves in for the kill? Shooting stars distract, hurtling brilliant through the cold and crackling winter night, freezing fingers, cold protesting feet, red face and dripping nose, a sorry plight, legs, slowly turning numb, arms aching from the constant and unceasing strain, rod held high. above the waves, each tiny pluck and movement causes pain Swimming, hopefully enticingly, the fly, spurred on by faith and hope and thought, approaches yet again the crashing waves, hovers for a moment, once more caught, capricious currents, drive it, to wobble, shimmer, shake and  twist and bend. much like the thoughts of  he, who patient and persistent, holds fast the other end. At last! A solid take, and line runs freely from the spool, twenty yards or more, Rod bends, arms tense, back bends, heels dig deeper into crumbling shore, the battle wages, fish and man, bound now by tenuous strands, far mightier than steel, commence to measure, each their skill, with each run and leap, each hard-won turn of reel. Eyes, long since accustomed to the starry night, still strain to see a glimpse or flash, who knows what might have taken? and then the fish leaps, falling with a mighty splash, a silver ghost, a monster, a prize beyond compare, rising from the dark and restless deep, how long and hard must angler fight, before he be allowed his prize to land and keep? Hours and nights, long winters, in cold and storm,  for many  seasons he has stood, searching, learning, hoping,  waiting, to gain just such a prize, from the raging flood, Alas, this night, although he uses every trick and all his skill, it is simply not to be, almost within his grasp, his prize spits contemptuously the hook, and sinks into the sea. Freezing now, disconsolate, gear is packed, and angler turns to home along the beach, the prize is gone, but angler knows, that this time it was very nearly well within his reach, there will be other nights, perhaps indeed much greater prizes, things well beyond compare, should you seek such, haste to the beach, you will find angler, watching, waiting, hoping, there. TL MC

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OK Mike you are starting to worry me. As always I enjoy your dissertations and sharp wit.  However this is another long message, why are you spending this much time in front of the computer instead of fishing?  Your current posts are what I would expect to see in January and February not in August. Just askin a question Dave

For various reasons, I am unable to go fishing at the moment.  I can still think about it though, and also reflect on past trips. I don

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Sierra Trading Post has some good prices right now on winter time clothes. I got some silk long johns, marino woolshirts etc. Shipping was prompt etc. I’ve always stopped in their store when I was in Casper but I just found their website. They carry quality outdoor clothing at substantial discounts. I’m not affiliated with them at all just like the quality and price on what they carry.     http://www.sierratradingpost.com/ Willi

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Just got an "Ott Light" for my tying table.  Been using my wife’s for a few months.  I love this thing.  The light is more natural that incandescent or florescent bulbs and I find I don’t need the magnifier on some of the flies that I used to use.  If you know a tyer, its a great gift (or put one on your own list.).       Frank Reid – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sierra Trading Post has some good prices right now on winter time clothes. I got some silk long johns, marino woolshirts etc. Shipping was prompt etc. I’ve always stopped in their store when I was in Casper but I just found their website. They carry quality outdoor clothing at substantial discounts. I’m not affiliated with them at all just like the quality and price on what they carry. http://www.sierratradingpost.com/ Willi

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Gentlemen, I would sincerely appreciate any advice for purchasing a winter "all – around"  but primarily fly fishing Gore-Tex type rain jacket.  It does not need to be Gore-Tex name brand just something similar and would like it to be an outdoor color, either solid brown, tan or camo would be suffice,  I would also like it to be more than just a shell so it will not only keep me dry but warm as well.  I do already layer properly with thinsulate and fleece but need something a little heavier for the very coldest of days in winter.  I live and fish primarily in Maryland and will begin shortly to fish in PA and WV.  I would also be glad to hear of any other suggestions for staying comfortable through the winter season. (Besides staying indoors) Sadly I can not afford top of the line products but anything in the $150.00 to $200.00 would be great. Thanks in advance, Tony Norton

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Tony I have the old Bare sharkskin and it works fine.  The newer Bare models are olive and may be a bit higher than your price range but worth checking out. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://members.home.net/pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Being in that part of the country it should be easy to get a military issue gortex field jacket WITH a liner.  I live in Ky and we can usually get them at Fort Knox for about 150.00 dollars.  I guess the key to this is knowing someone in the military who can get you this stuff. Being close to Ft. Meade and various other places it shouldnt be to hard for you.  If you know someone in the reserves they can get it for you.  I got all the clothing that I needed just before I got out except for the Gortex field jacket and I wish I would have gotten one myself. Roger – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gentlemen, I would sincerely appreciate any advice for purchasing a winter "all – around"  but primarily fly fishing Gore-Tex type rain jacket.  It does not need to be Gore-Tex name brand just something similar and would like it to be an outdoor color, either solid brown, tan or camo would be suffice,  I would also like it to be more than just a shell so it will not only keep me dry but warm as well.  I do already layer properly with thinsulate and fleece but need something a little heavier for the very coldest of days in winter.  I live and fish primarily in Maryland and will begin shortly to fish in PA and WV.  I would also be glad to hear of any other suggestions for staying comfortable through the winter season. (Besides staying indoors) Sadly I can not afford top of the line products but anything in the $150.00 to $200.00 would be great. Thanks in advance, Tony Norton

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   I live about 3 miles from Ft. Meade and have found quite a few places where one can get the military gortex (mostly in Glen Burnie). I love the stuff.  Super durable and is relatively comfortable.  Gotex makes a spray that can reseal the gortex if its getting old.  A used jacket and the spray will be about half the price of the new.  Try Sunnies stores, there’s one on Richie Hwy north of 100.   If you don’t buy the military, make sure the seams are double stitched and sealed.  All pocket zippers should zip down to close and have a weather flap over the top.  If there is a hood, ensure that the hood is attached about halfway up the colar.  This will keep the wet off your neck when you take the hood off.  Make sure it is lined.  Gortex can be like a tent, if you touch it with your hand on the inside while it is wet, the damp can come through.  I don’t like the net linings, a good nylon taffeta inner is good.        Frank Reid – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Being in that part of the country it should be easy to get a military issue gortex field jacket WITH a liner.  I live in Ky and we can usually get them at Fort Knox for about 150.00 dollars.  I guess the key to this is knowing someone in the military who can get you this stuff. Being close to Ft. Meade and various other places it shouldnt be to hard for you.  If you know someone in the reserves they can get it for you.  I got all the clothing that I needed just before I got out except for the Gortex field jacket and I wish I would have gotten one myself. Roger Gentlemen, I would sincerely appreciate any advice for purchasing a winter "all – around"  but primarily fly fishing Gore-Tex type rain jacket.  It does not need to be Gore-Tex name brand just something similar and would like it to be an outdoor color, either solid brown, tan or camo would be suffice,  I would also like it to be more than just a shell so it will not only keep me dry but warm as well.  I do already layer properly with thinsulate and fleece but need something a little heavier for the very coldest of days in winter.  I live and fish primarily in Maryland and will begin shortly to fish in PA and WV.  I would also be glad to hear of any other suggestions for staying comfortable through the winter season. (Besides staying indoors) Sadly I can not afford top of the line products but anything in the $150.00 to $200.00 would be great. Thanks in advance, Tony Norton

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Tony check out the Solitude "Ultima" jacket. I picked one up and it’s worked great for me I do a bit a fishing in the winter and I try to catch the ice-outs up north so I’ve worn it in some pretty crappy weather. It runs about $200, the compant compares it to the Simms model priced a bit higher. You can check it out at their sight http://www.solitude.com. Good luck, Bill

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gentlemen, I would sincerely appreciate any advice for purchasing a winter "all – around"  but primarily fly fishing Gore-Tex type rain jacket.  It does not need to be Gore-Tex name brand just something similar and would like it to be an outdoor color, either solid brown, tan or camo would be suffice,  I would also like it to be more than just a shell so it will not only keep me dry but warm as well.  I do already layer properly with thinsulate and fleece but need something a little heavier for the very coldest of days in winter.  I live and fish primarily in Maryland and will begin shortly to fish in PA and WV.  I would also be glad to hear of any other suggestions for staying comfortable through the winter season. (Besides staying indoors) Sadly I can not afford top of the line products but anything in the $150.00 to $200.00 would be great. Thanks in advance, Tony Norton

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George, I honestly think no one wants a $300 cane rod, that is why you have to push them all the time. Cane rods are not for newbies , they are for enthusiasts. They cannot compete with graphite on pure performance, although you say yours can!  Cane  if for when you discover that hertage and  presentation is what draws you to the sport. Fly fishing has more to with history  and the joy of fishing with a piece of equipment that  the maker has spent some time on and not  his rejects. George, this is a new mellenium where folk are prepared to spend a little cash on a nice piece of equipment.  I live in an area where cycling is a big thing. Do they all ride $100 bikes? no chance, they all ride hand made racing bikes and dress up to match, even if they look bloody stupid. Dont sell yourself short George, good cane has never ben cheap.  Terry   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As of this moment (please note time and date) let’s see who smart mouths who or who demeans whom first. I’m here to talk fly fishing.  Always have and will always try to do just that.   Less everyone forget that the Bastard Bamboo Fly Rod Company was started here in Roff and it was my money I put on the line.  The $300 fly rods are still available so let no one forget the promise and challenge was met. I know how to keep promises and I know how to meet challenges.  First off, I think everyone should take this Darwinian Concept and pitch it in the trash pile because its nothing more than an excuse to wander off the beaten path.  That includes our foreign visitors to ROFF. So there it is.  Either hone up to what Rec.Outdoors.Fishing.Fly is all about or go to the proper newsgroups to discuss those darwinian subjects. They don’t belong here. Nuff Said:  Let’s see who throws the first stone. As Jesus said once by the village well while everyone stoned the prostitute:  "He who is without sin, let them cast the first stone!" Whereas:  This little woman staggers over with this big rock and drops it on the persecuted one’s head! Aghast!  Jesus says: "You know ma?  Sometimes you really can piss me off." — Mr.Gink "the saga continues"   http://www.gink.com/

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George G. writes: I’m here to talk fly fishing.  Always have and will always try to do just that.  

Well, my oldest grandson and I just returned from a wonderful trip to Labrador.  Fishing was tough because of flood conditions and the weather, but we caught some nice brook trout on #16 and #18 Goddard Caddis’.   We had trouble keeping the fly afloat because of the wind and rain, but Jeff used Dave’s Bug Flote (sic), and I used Albolene and the problem was solved. Both worked really well, as well as any floatant on the market. Dave LaCourse "The Sag Continues"

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<< I’m here to talk fly fishing.  Always have and will always try to do just that.   George, take a moment and look at your last months worth of posts.  They consist almost entirely of infammatory topics.  Hell, I would love to talk fishing with you.  You only about two hours from me and we could probably share a lot of information but you can’t seem to keep yourself out of the bullseye. I know there are a lot of people here who don’t like you and that makes it difficult to post anything without somebody twisting it and taking a shot at you.  However, an awful lot of your post are self centered and self serving and that turns the rest of us off.  We all have our faults and I am by no means perfect but I have to tell ya that you bring an awful lot of grief down on yourself by the way you write and by what you choose to write about. Why don’t you just let ROFF go?  There are some great local fly fishing newsgroups that focus on fishing and not ego’s and hate wars.  Focus your energy there. Mike Spokane, WA

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Good God George, take a pill or something…..There is no need what so ever for your diatribes. Go to Montana and chill for heaven sake. Harry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As of this moment (please note time and date) let’s see who smart mouths who or who demeans whom first. I’m here to talk fly fishing.  Always have and will always try to do just that.   Less everyone forget that the Bastard Bamboo Fly Rod Company was started here in Roff and it was my money I put on the line.  The $300 fly rods are still available so let no one forget the promise and challenge was met. I know how to keep promises and I know how to meet challenges.  First off, I think everyone should take this Darwinian Concept and pitch it in the trash pile because its nothing more than an excuse to wander off the beaten path.  That includes our foreign visitors to ROFF. So there it is.  Either hone up to what Rec.Outdoors.Fishing.Fly is all about or go to the proper newsgroups to discuss those darwinian subjects. They don’t belong here. Nuff Said:  Let’s see who throws the first stone. As Jesus said once by the village well while everyone stoned the prostitute:  "He who is without sin, let them cast the first stone!" Whereas:  This little woman staggers over with this big rock and drops it on the persecuted one’s head! Aghast!  Jesus says: "You know ma?  Sometimes you really can piss me off."

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The only saga that continues – your irrationality.  There’s no point responding to your post line-by-line, the self-serving bullshit it contains is obvious to everyone.  So let me put this as succintly as possible – GO AWAY! Peter

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Why don’t you just let ROFF go?  There are some great local fly fishing newsgroups that focus on fishing and not ego’s and hate wars.  Focus your energy there. Mike Spokane, WA

__– Well simply put, because I have several hundred people who stalk roff and like what we say regarding fly fishing.  It is the unsung heroes of fly fishing who wait patiently for those nice articles and I will continue to post those articles Mike in a straight forward and hopefully, interesting manner. I understand what you’re saying, and we will try to improve in that area.  Other than that, I think there is a small group here in Roff that I wouldn’t give the time of day too.  You should hear what that silent majority has to say about the flamers and smart mouths out east and in Germany.  They are fed up with them and it isn’t I that they are mostly unhappy with.  What they complain the most about is ROFF doesn’t talks about fishing enough.   Other than that, I agree with you and we should get together sometime soon.  Possibly when this entire crew gets back from the expedition? Thanks for your input, but I’m not leaving.  There are too many on the back stage who support me more than the other side.  The challenge still stands.   — "the saga will continue on my terms" In the meantime, we are working hard on the web site for all our friends and clients.   http://www.gink.com/  Just talk fly fishing!

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Good God George, take a pill or something…..There is no need what so ever for your diatribes. Go to Montana and chill for heaven sake. Harry

Talk fly fishing Harry.  Talk fly fishing.  Nothing else matters. — Mr.Gink "the saga continues"   http://www.gink.com/

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__– Well simply put, because I have several hundred people who stalk roff and like what we say regarding fly fishing.  It is the unsung heroes of fly fishing who wait patiently for those nice articles and I will continue to post those articles Mike in a straight forward and hopefully, interesting manner.

Why don’t you and your legion of imaginary friends go and get fucked? — Levi "So long, and thanks for all the fish."

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. Less everyone forget that the Bastard Bamboo Fly Rod Company was started here in Roff and it was my money I put on the line.  The $300 fly rods are still available so let no one forget the promise and challenge was met.

Let’s see who’s the honest one here you arrogant SOB. Perhaps we should email that little ditty to every creditor on your bankruptcy list whom we could find an email address for. Oh yea, I also have the email where you acknowledged "there were problems" with the $300 rods. So much for the challenge being met. Wayne Tired of Kansas (no trout and the sms is ungodly expensive) Tired of Not Fishing And Tired of the Bullshit.

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Grow up, George. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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"Can’t we all just get along…ppplease, people, (sniff)…?" Alex (thoroughly amused at the seriousness with which some folks take themselves).

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – As of this moment (please note time and date) let’s see who smart mouths who or who demeans whom first. I’m here to talk fly fishing.  Always have and will always try to do just that. Less everyone forget that the Bastard Bamboo Fly Rod Company was started here in Roff and it was my money I put on the line.  The $300 fly rods are still available so let no one forget the promise and challenge was met. I know how to keep promises and I know how to meet challenges.  First off, I think everyone should take this Darwinian Concept and pitch it in the trash pile because its nothing more than an excuse to wander off the beaten path.  That includes our foreign visitors to ROFF. So there it is.  Either hone up to what Rec.Outdoors.Fishing.Fly is all about or go to the proper newsgroups to discuss those darwinian subjects. They don’t belong here. Nuff Said:  Let’s see who throws the first stone. As Jesus said once by the village well while everyone stoned the prostitute:  "He who is without sin, let them cast the first stone!" Whereas:  This little woman staggers over with this big rock and drops it on the persecuted one’s head! Aghast!  Jesus says: "You know ma?  Sometimes you really can piss me off." — Mr.Gink "the saga continues" http://www.gink.com/

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As of this moment (please note time and date) let’s see who smart mouths who or who demeans whom first. I’m here to talk fly fishing.  Always have and will always try to do just that.   Less everyone forget that the Bastard Bamboo Fly Rod Company was started here in Roff and it was my money I put on the line.  The $300 fly rods are still available so let no one forget the promise and challenge was met. I know how to keep promises and I know how to meet challenges.  First off, I think everyone should take this Darwinian Concept and pitch it in the trash pile because its nothing more than an excuse to wander off the beaten path.  That includes our foreign visitors to ROFF. So there it is.  Either hone up to what Rec.Outdoors.Fishing.Fly is all about or go to the proper newsgroups to discuss those darwinian subjects. They don’t belong here. Nuff Said:  Let’s see who throws the first stone. As Jesus said once by the village well while everyone stoned the prostitute:  "He who is without sin, let them cast the first stone!" Whereas:  This little woman staggers over with this big rock and drops it on the persecuted one’s head! Aghast!  Jesus says: "You know ma?  Sometimes you really can piss me off." — Mr.Gink "the saga continues"   http://www.gink.com/

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Hi All, I ways wondering what water proof cameras are out there now? I need it for fishing because I always seem to fall in? The ‘weather resistant’ cameras did not work for me. Thanks. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA http://www.kiene.com

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Hi All, I ways wondering what water proof cameras are out there now? I need it for fishing because I always seem to fall in? The ‘weather resistant’ cameras did not work for me. Thanks.

The Nikon Nikonos… assuming you’ve got the bucks.  It however is really designed for underwater photography and its lenses and accesories are desgined for that environment.. no long lenses etc. Jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA http://www.kiene.com

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Hi All, I ways wondering what water proof cameras are out there now? I need it for fishing because I always seem to fall in? The ‘weather resistant’ cameras did not work for me. Thanks.

Hi, Bill.  If you’re not planning on taking tons of underwater photos, stay away from the Nikonos line, as well as all other SLR’s.  Beautiful cameras, but a bit overkill for what it sounds like what you’re looking for.  If you do need an SLR, get one of those transparent housings that are held in place by screwing them onto the front of the lens… they look like transparent plastic bags.  Otherwise, go with a p&s.  You might look at Minolta’s zoom p&s that goes to 33 feet, Canon’s A-1 (non-zoom) to 16 feet, or even Pentax’s Espio 105WR (38-105mm).  This last one is Class 5 weather resistant, can have water dumped on it, and floats if dropped into water.  Just some thoughts. chris

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I ways wondering what water proof cameras are out there now?

Here is a comparison chart of all water-resistant cameras currently on the market, along with some non-water-resistant competitors:   http://creekin.net/cameras.htm Prices and weights included.

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Hi, Bill.  If you’re not planning on taking tons of underwater photos, stay away from the Nikonos line, as well as all other SLR’s.  Beautiful cameras, but a bit overkill for what it sounds like what you’re looking for.  If you do need an SLR, SNIP<

Just to avoid confusion, the Nikonoses which have been recommended (I’ve seen a recommendation for the III, a couple for the IV-A, and mine for a used V or IV-A) are not SLRs. They are viewfinder cameras that take interchangebable lenses (similar to rangefinder, but they don’t use a rangefinder for focusing). I’ve used Nikonos viewfinder cameras for maybe 10 years, and I get most of my use on dry land. My underwater use is snorkeling, and they would probably qualify as overkill even for that use, but they are, in my estimation, excellent cameras overall, even on land. And they are built like tanks. If the camera Bill chooses is going to get rough treatment on his trips, I would not shy away from a Nikonos as overkill. — Phil Stripling               | email to the replyto address is presumed http://www.cieux.com/        | civex.com is read daily.

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You might look into getting a Nikonos IVa with a 35mm lens. It’s made by Nikon and, with good seals, is waterproof, sandproof, and (unless you open the back to change film) sturdy. = = = – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, I ways wondering what water proof cameras are out there now? I need it for fishing because I always seem to fall in? The ‘weather resistant’ cameras did not work for me. Thanks. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA http://www.kiene.com

Before you buy.

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Check out also the Sea & Sea Motomartine or Motormarine, which offers compatability with the Nikonos line at much less cost. Be aware that many of the lenses can be used ONLY underwater, so check that out carefully. In the P&S line Canon (I believe) makes one that is waterproof to a couple of meters. Much better than the weatherized kind for you I think. This is probably your best choice, as it is designed to work above water as well. Nikon made an underwater P&S about 10 years ago which was a great camera for the kind of situation you describe, but which has, sadly, been discontinued. Good luck, — Toby

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi All, I ways wondering what water proof cameras are out there now? I need it for fishing because I always seem to fall in? The ‘weather resistant’ cameras did not work for me. Thanks. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA http://www.kiene.com

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Bill, The only true waterproof camera is the Nikonos by Nikon. They work above water as well as underwater.  They are, of course, expensive.  I have a Nikonos III w/28mm lens, strobe, etc. in floating equipment case that I need to sell.  This system has been used only three times.  If you know any divers, they probably know this camera well. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!

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Dan, Are you talking about saltwater speckled trout or garfish? Inquiring minds wanna know. I used to love fishing for the "specs" in and around Sarasota. go gatahs…. Walt I never miss a home game at gatorsville, but this time of year the only gators I think about are Gator Trout.Have C.& R.  11 in the past week 22 inches or longer. Will start to think about choump choump  Gators in Sept.    Capt Dan   We play St. Bobby at home this year. Choump—–Choump **** Posted from RemarQ – http://www.remarq.com – Discussions Start Here ™ ****

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I never miss a home game at gatorsville, but this time of year the only gators I think about are Gator Trout.Have C.& R.  11 in the past week 22 inches or longer. Will start to think about choump choump  Gators in Sept.    Capt Dan   We play St. Bobby at home this year. Choump—–Choump **** Posted from RemarQ – http://www.remarq.com – Discussions Start Here ™ ****

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Matt, I like the camelback myself for long hot days. But where does this slimy little geek Malik get the crazy idea to SPAM a fly fishing newsgroup with this stuff. Where or where would he get the idea that he could SPAM in ROFF???? I take my camelback fishing, so it is "technically" an on-topic post.     – Ken    umm, ken, i plan on taking my gerkhe bastard fishing.  does this mean you are gonna get off george’s ass, at last?

Actually, Wayno, you missed the point, it was sarcasm.  Both are SPAM.  The point was that people complained about the camelback dude, but want to give George free rein.  I just hold all the spammers in equal disdain. Later,      - Ken — "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the  initiative in creating the Internet."  - Al Gore

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Waldo,   Don’t know how much attention you pay tohim, but Beano Cook is already predicting the 2000 Sugar Bowl (which will be the BCS championship game): The chomp chomp fun and gun Gators of the University of Spurrier                                        vs.         The Penn State JoePa is God Nittany Lions Need I point out where I went to college?  College football is life, and life is good.

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I like the hard hat with the built in beer can holders and long straw that hangs by your mouth. Bet Walt has one to. Big Al

shoot Al, how’d you know that. betcha didn’t know it’s a big ole UF gatah and it holds a sixpak. cool thing is, it has a gatah jaw brim with a length of  mono. when you tug on the mono the jaws go up and down like a real gatah… pretty neat huh. man, back in g’ville in the early eighties i couldn’t keep the gatorettes off me when i wore that cap. hell, mebbe it was the beer, who knows. waldo gatah

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Matt, I like the camelback myself for long hot days. But where does this slimy little geek Malik get the crazy idea to SPAM a fly fishing newsgroup with this stuff.

Where or where would he get the idea that he could SPAM in ROFF???? I take my camelback fishing, so it is "technically" an on-topic post.      - Ken — "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the  initiative in creating the Internet."  - Al Gore

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Matt, I like the camelback myself for long hot days. But where does this slimy little geek Malik get the crazy idea to SPAM a fly fishing newsgroup with this stuff. Where or where would he get the idea that he could SPAM in ROFF???? I take my camelback fishing, so it is "technically" an on-topic post.     – Ken

        umm, ken, i plan on taking my gerkhe bastard fishing.  does this mean you are gonna get off george’s ass, at last? wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text — "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."  - Al Gore

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Matt, I like the camelback myself for long hot days. But where does this slimy little geek Malik get the crazy idea to SPAM a fly fishing newsgroup with this stuff.  My first impression is this guy couldn’t make the sale to the Lilian Vernon Catalogue! Wayne To fish is human…to release divine.     don’t spend alot of money on crap, buy a camelbak, I’m in the army and we use them everywhere, it’s like a water backpack…never sloshes..nobody uses canteens in the army now…you can find them at sporting goods stores

I like the hard hat with the built in beer can holders and long straw that hangs by your mouth. Bet Walt has one to. Big Al

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     don’t spend alot of money on crap, buy a camelbak, I’m in the army and we use them everywhere, it’s like a water backpack…never sloshes..nobody uses canteens in the army now…you can find them at sporting goods stores

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Matt, I like the camelback myself for long hot days. But where does this slimy little geek Malik get the crazy idea to SPAM a fly fishing newsgroup with this stuff.  My first impression is this guy couldn’t make the sale to the Lilian Vernon Catalogue! Wayne To fish is human…to release divine. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –     don’t spend alot of money on crap, buy a camelbak, I’m in the army and we use them everywhere, it’s like a water backpack…never sloshes..nobody uses canteens in the army now…you can find them at sporting goods stores

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WELL DONE I LAUGHED ALL WAY THROUGH IT

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Have I’ve got a good one for you! I traveled to British Columbia the last week of August to visit family up in Mackenzie. My new brother-in-law (affectionately known as Phlem) is a real die-hard fly fisherman. Me – a die hard bass fisherman (picture a bass boat, 150hp, 10 rods, 400 crankbaits, 500 jigs, 4000 pieces of rubber, and 5 more tackle boxes; all hurtling insanely down the lake at 60+ mph). Anyway, he convinced me that I should try my hand at fly fishing for the first time. So I borrowed my brother

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Anyone know a decent flyshop in the Berkshires…for local advice and flytying materials.

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If you are in the northern Berkshires, you might try the Smith and Morey shop on Route 2 in Charlemont.  The proprietor is a friendly guy and, along with one of his buddies, gave me some advice on the Deerfield last weekend.  The shop is a combination of hunting and fishing supplies, so the flyfishing/tying merchandise is not dazzling.  He said he would only be open on weekends after Christmas, but you can also check his main outdoor store (same name) just off of Route 2 in Shelburn Falls on the main street about a block away from the bridge crossing the Deerfield. Good luck! Rob Foster

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The Angler’s Lie is at 3510 Lee Highway in Arlington, VA. They claim to be only 7 minutes from the White House!  Since I don’t live in the White House it really never mattered too much to me.  Call and someone will give you directions, from the White House or wherever. Phone (703) 527-2524 Have fun, John

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Call Scotty Wolf at Wolf’s Fly Shop in Ellicott City, right up Rt. 29.  He is one of the best around. Ralph Curd

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Try the Anglers Lie, 3510 Lee Hwy, Arlington, VA. 703 527 2524. Great selection of fly tying materials etc. They only deal in fly fishing.

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I am looking for a good fly shp in Alexandria VA Can anyone give a few recommendations ? Thanks   Richard Lewis

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Richard, You are in luck.  One of the best flyshops in the area is in Alexandria. The Angler’s Lie is on Lee highway 10 minutes from the White House.  They are in the phonebook.  Huge selection on tying materials.  Enjoy!

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I have been offerd a trip to the area of Dillion Co. in July. I would love to take advantage of this offer. Can anyone tell me what the fishing would be like there. Is a guide a must? are there areas that are easy to get to with out a guide? still water vs. river/stream? We have never visited the state before so we have no idea where we are heading.

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Dear visitor: July in Summit county offers a variety of flyfishing and regular fishing opportunities.  The obvious and most close is the Blue River which flows through Dillon.  There are also numerous private streams and ponds that you can fish.  The best advice I can give you is to call up the fishing stores in Breckenridge or Dillon and tell them what kind of fisherman you are (Novice, etc…) and decide if you are willing to spend money to have a private guide take you on private water.  They run anywhere from 125$/Day to $300/Day depending on the Luxery factor.  With the amount of snow in Summit county this year, runoff will be longer and may not be good in July in the Blue River.  I might want to try Beaver ponds if  the water is not clear.

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: I am planning a trip up to Montana to fish the Clarks Fork River.  I have : traveled past it many times.  I have no idea about fishing regulations, : favorable areas or fly patterns.  The area I am thinking of is around Missoula. Don’t just think Clark Fork River.  Just east of Missoula is Rock Creek.  Just north is the Jocko.  If you like BIG water, fish the Clark Fork.  If you like a small stream, do Rock Creek.  If you like real small, fish the Jocko.   The only problem with the Jocko is that it is on an Indian Reservation and requires a permit in addition to your fishing license. Check out a map.  There are many class rivers, all within an hour of Missoula.  Lots of great opportunities.  You don’t say when you will be there, but there are large stone fly in the Clark Fork.  I’m not sure what color since there was no hatch when I was there. Good Luck! Bob Moss Landing, Ca.

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Perhaps the stone fly you refer to is the Skualla stone fly. This is a big fly, about size 8 or 10, and the Clark Fork above Missoula has lots of them. They emerge in early May, and the adult if best imitated by a med. to dark olive stimulator.  There are not alot of other good size flies on the surface this time of year, so they can really get the fishes attention.  Not many people know about them since the hatch is during the "off season". However, the locals around the Missoula really get excited about this stonefly. The area between the confluence of the Blackfoot and the confluence of Rock Creek seems best.

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I am planning a trip up to Montana to fish the Clarks Fork River.  I have traveled past it many times.  I have no idea about fishing regulations, favorable areas or fly patterns.  The area I am thinking of is around Missoula.

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