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You did hook 2 fish. I wouldn’t call that "utter failure" just a frustrating day.  Hooking none is "utter failure."  Now that’s happened to me more times than I want to count.   Joel Axelrad **DFD**

ditto.

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Heck, if I hook none but don’t fall in more than twice, I call that a successful day! Piker.  Frank calls it a record!        :) Wolfgang and we ain’t talkin’ pere here.

Yeah, but didn’t he turn pro a year or so ago?  I’m still an amachoor. vince

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Heck, if I hook none but don’t fall in more than twice, I call that a successful day! Piker.  Frank calls it a record!        :) Wolfgang and we ain’t talkin’ pere here. Yeah, but didn’t he turn pro a year or so ago?  I’m still an amachoor.

Yeah, as in music and ornithology, there’s still room in the world of sport for the gifted amateur.     Wolfgang

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Yeah, as in music and ornithology, there’s still room in the world of sport for the gifted amateur.     Wolfgang

The canary!  He sang, didn’t he?  He’s a lousy snitch.  But he wasn’t really a canary, now was he?  That song, that look, yes, he was a Citril Finch! Thought he had me fooled,  HAH!  Yeh, but I sent him into the mines anyway. BWAAAAHHAAAAHHAAHAHHHAAA!    Thank you very much. — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply

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  Well, Sunday looked promising at the outset, at least for fishing the   heavily-fished Tulpehocken…..   Nothing I saw justified the blitz of feeding I saw. Sometimes, fly-fishing   can get like that, it’s just that I hate when it happens to me….Oh well, at   Sometimes two fish is a good day. other times, when you feel you "should" be catching more, it’s just frustrating. Glad to here you stream held up through the low water. I had been concerned about my home stretch of river and was glad when I started seeing some smaller fish feeding about a week or so ago. Yesterday morning, I went out about 8:00 and found a couple of large pods of fish in the skinny water ripping into the Trico duns coming off. Some of the rises were sedate sips but many were splashy lunges. The pod I fished had 10 to 15 fish feeding in water from six inches to a foot deep in an area about 15′ by 20′. I generally try and target a specific fish that I figure is a better one, but they were feeding in such a small area that their rise forms were overlapping. Although some of the rises indicated better fish, I figured the fish were small because of the energetic rises to such a small insect and because the better fish won’t generally surface feeding together in such a small area.  The hatch was pretty heavy and I was competing with lots of naturals. It was also difficult to get a good drift through the eddy where the fish were feeding. It probably took thirty casts before I got a take. The fish was a nice one and tore up the eddy where it was rising and took off downstream to a deep pool. After a spirited fight I landed a Brown of about 18". In the shallow water the fight put down the pod of fish I was targeting as well as the other pod that was downstream. I walked upstream a ways to look for some more fish, but by that time the sun was getting pretty direct and the shallow water looked barren although there were still lots of bugs. I only got one fish, but it was a good day. Glad to know at least some the better fish have made it through our over heated Summer. Willi

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ome small rusty colored mayflies and a You did hook 2 fish. I wouldn’t call that "utter failure"… Hooking none is "utter failure." Heck, if I hook none but don’t fall in more than twice, I call that a successful day!

Piker.  Frank calls it a record!        :) Wolfgang and we ain’t talkin’ pere here.

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ome small rusty colored mayflies and a You did hook 2 fish. I wouldn’t call that "utter failure"… Hooking none is "utter failure."

Heck, if I hook none but don’t fall in more than twice, I call that a successful day! vince

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utter failure my ass – that was just coitus interrruptus Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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utter failure my ass – that was just coitus interrruptus Peter

    you catholics just *will* have your say!     yfitons     wayno  (methodist to the core–which, in methodists, is about 32* fahrenheit.)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – utter failure my ass – that was just coitus interrruptus Peter    you catholics just *will* have your say!    yfitons    wayno  (methodist to the core–which, in methodists, is about 32* fahrenheit.)

Nope, not me, I’m just the anglicized, pseudo version. with a catholic education. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://www.mountaincable.net/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Peter notes: utter failure my ass – that was just coitus interrruptus

you may well be right….at any rate, I went back today as it cleared. Of course, I found less bugs by far and the usual fussy fish. Caught them, though, on deep nymphs (both caddis pupae and Zug Bugs), got two to take #18 Tan Elk Hair caddis.                              Tom

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You did hook 2 fish. I wouldn’t call that "utter failure" just a frustrating day.  Hooking none is "utter failure."  Now that’s happened to me more times than I want to count.  

If you got out of the house and went fishing, you already succeeded. Now, if you had spent the whole weekend at home doing yardwork… Kevin

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Joel writes: Hooking none is "utter failure."  Now that’s happened to me more times than I want to count.

fucking hemlocks!!<g

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Tom Littleton wrote… Well, Sunday looked promising at the outset, at least for fishing the heavily-fished Tulpehocken…..it was raining steadily. At 10 am, I drove over to the creek to investigate the situation. Usually, rainy days provide(along with very low fishing pressure), easy fishing for the trout of the Creek. This one promised no different, as my arrival was greeted by dozens of birds working over insects and the swirls of feeding fish everywhere. From that point, it went steadily awry, as I fished for over 3 hours. I hooked exactly two fish, both on a tan wet fly imitation(to my mind) the smaller caddis about. The numbers of feeding fish were staggering, the birds fed constantly, and I never did figure it out. I tried caddis, midges, tricos and little olives. I saw a few of each of those, along with some small rusty colored mayflies and a couple larger pale mayflies. No single insect seemed prevalent enough for the gauche display by the swallows, which literally dive-bombed the water throughout. Nothing I saw justified the blitz of feeding I saw. Sometimes, fly-fishing can get like that, it’s just that I hate when it happens to me….Oh well, at                                                                Tom

You did hook 2 fish. I wouldn’t call that "utter failure" just a frustrating day.  Hooking none is "utter failure."  Now that’s happened to me more times than I want to count.   Joel Axelrad **DFD**

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Well, Sunday looked promising at the outset, at least for fishing the heavily-fished Tulpehocken…..it was raining steadily. At 10 am, I drove over to the creek to investigate the situation. Usually, rainy days provide(along with very low fishing pressure), easy fishing for the trout of the Creek. This one promised no different, as my arrival was greeted by dozens of birds working over insects and the swirls of feeding fish everywhere. From that point, it went steadily awry, as I fished for over 3 hours. I hooked exactly two fish, both on a tan wet fly imitation(to my mind) the smaller caddis about. The numbers of feeding fish were staggering, the birds fed constantly, and I never did figure it out. I tried caddis, midges, tricos and little olives. I saw a few of each of those, along with some small rusty colored mayflies and a couple larger pale mayflies. No single insect seemed prevalent enough for the gauche display by the swallows, which literally dive-bombed the water throughout. Nothing I saw justified the blitz of feeding I saw. Sometimes, fly-fishing can get like that, it’s just that I hate when it happens to me….Oh well, at                                                                 Tom

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I’ve owned a cabin on the banks of the San Juan and fished it for almost 30 yrs.It is a year round river.The only hard time to fish it is in most of May and June when the Waters is High,Somtimes 10  times as  much water. The guides still do well with drift Boats There are lots of good Guides. Id recommed Born and Raise’d owned by Tim Chaves. Call Abe’s At Navijo Dam NM. Abe’s  has a store,rest, and can book the guides. ( Tim is Abe’s son.Ive found his guides very good.I have my own Drift boat now,and they are still helpful. I was up there last week and it was awsome fishing. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m going to be in NM in August, and would plan a trip to the San Juan if it was worth it. Has anyone had experience there at that time of year? Is it truly an "all season" river? Any suggestions on guides? If not replying here, please reply to my e-mail. Thanks in advance to those who would consider advising me on making my trip more enjoyable.

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I’m going to be in NM in August, and would plan a trip to the San Juan if

it was worth it. Has anyone had experience there at that time of year? Is it truly an "all season" river? Any suggestions on guides?<<< Sorry this is so late. If I can still help, give me a hollar at work (800-395-6397) and I’ll tell you how great the fishing is. I’m the outdoor editor for the local paper and I talk to guides, anglers and others at least weekly. Fishing has been very good all summer. Last weekend they held a catch-and-release tournament and the winner caught 46 fish averaging 16 inches. Now this was a bi-fly tournament where competitors could only tally fish when using one of two flies (one wet and one dry) they chose each day. If they broke off, they were without that fly for the rest of the day. Great nymphing using chocolate emergers and dry fly action has been real good as well. A caddis hatch is slowing way down now, but there is still a good baetis hatch every day. I’m not a real serious fly-angler, however, so I don’t know this stuff first hand. Give me a hollar, or drop e-mail, if you’d like more info. I could offer the names of several great outfitters, whose guides will put you on fish consistently. Average fish is 16 inches. One 26-incher pushing nine pounds was caught in the last week or two. Darren Darren Marcy Crouch Mesa, N.M. 505-333-2222

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The San Juan is truly a year round river. All you need is a supply of small

size #18-22 (#20 most widely used) dark brown or light grey  RS-2’s and or WD-40’s as your dropper fly and an attractor fly 6 to 8 inches above, use a San Juan worm, disco midge, egg etc…every other bug used on the river is a variation or cousin to the RS-2 or WD-40.<<< Everything said is true to the best my knowledge. Darren Darren Marcy Crouch Mesa, N.M. 505-333-2222

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Sorry this is so late. If I can still help, give me a hollar at work (800-395-6397) and I’ll tell you how great the fishing is. I’m the outdoor editor for the local paper and I talk to guides, anglers and others at least weekly. Fishing has been very good all summer. Last weekend they held a catch-and-release tournament and the winner caught 46 fish averaging 16 inches.

[el snippo] Well, that last sentence ought to get Our Friend Tim in a rich lather again. I swear you guys go out of your way to get him all riled up…

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Well, that last sentence ought to get Our Friend Tim in a rich lather again. I swear you guys go out of your way to get him all riled up…

No, sorry. I’m new here and didn’t mean to rile anyone up. I assume this Tim guy doesn’t like numbers trotted out. Sorry, I’m not big into numbers myself, but some people are impressed with inches and fish caught per hour and all that. To me, if I can forget about work for a while, I’m ahead of the game. <G Darren Darren Marcy Crouch Mesa, N.M. 505-333-2222

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I’m going to be in NM in August, and would plan a trip to the San Juan if it was worth it. Has anyone had experience there at that time of year? Is it truly an "all season" river? Any suggestions on guides? If not replying here, please reply to my e-mail. Thanks in advance to those who would consider advising me on making my trip more enjoyable.

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The San Juan is truly a year round river. All you need is a supply of small size #18-22 (#20 most widely used) dark brown or light grey  RS-2’s and or WD-40’s as your dropper fly and an attractor fly 6 to 8 inches above, use a San Juan worm, disco midge, egg etc…every other bug used on the river is a variation or cousin to the RS-2 or WD-40. No guide needed ( they never hurt tho and you can find some good guides at abe’s if needed). Expect lots of people but if your using the above bugs you will catch fish. I guarantee it!!!!!! ] -Mike

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Someone posted a really nice list of web sites for flyfishing within the last week, but I inadvertantly deleted it.  Could you be so kind as to re-post it?

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Try http://www.eaglenet.com/PaxP/mstrs/fishing.html

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: Mmmm, and the delectable Ellie Mae. I doubted that Ellie Mae ever needed to troll for flies.  (But I wasn’t going to say it.) — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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[deleted] Vlad the Impaler

Particularly good name for that Nymph Series I am developing. I owe you yet again. TimW Designer of the "Vlad The Impaler" nymph series

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[deleted] Vlad the Impaler Particularly good name for that Nymph Series I am developing.    is there truth to the rumor that orvis is considering a "vlad the impaler"  designer jeep?  in blood red, with black leather seat

covers, of course.  oh well, today the roaring fork, tomorrow the amazon.         a. wayne harrison

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Particularly good name for that Nymph Series I am developing. is there truth to the rumor that orvis is considering a "vlad the impaler"   designer jeep?  in blood red, with black leather seat

It’s still in the design phase. However, Tiemco has announced its new "Vlad" series hooks.   The TMC-VLAD103’s make *EXCELLENT* hopper patterns. TimW

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Particularly good name for that Nymph Series I am developing. is there truth to the rumor that orvis is considering a "vlad the impaler"   designer jeep?  in blood red, with black leather seat It’s still in the design phase. However, Tiemco has announced its new "Vlad" series hooks.   The TMC-VLAD103’s make *EXCELLENT* hopper patterns. TimW

Yes, true. I also heard the "Vlad" series has been extended into sizes up to number 100 and can be mounted on a pole for spearing carp. Jon

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Yes, true. I also heard the "Vlad" series has been extended into sizes up to number 100 and can be mounted on a pole for spearing carp. Jon

You must mean 100/0

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writes: : I hope that you aren’t offended by this post. I felt I : just had to let everyone know how they could make 50,000 : flies a year !  It is all very legal, so don’t worry.  

I have had mixed results with this shceme. I mailed out my flies,but they where all returned within a week. However, I did recieve several nice used beginners flyting manuals and the web address for R.O.F.F.Tying.      Jim  

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Now I’ve got only one question here. I lose the occasional fly or two (maybe a bit more then that), but it would seem to me that anyone losing enough to have to make 50,000 a year should probably take up another sport. Possably golf played with basketballs. Lolo Mt.

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(here is my flyfishing chain letter submission) Howdy! Last year I received a chain letter from St. Jude.  It promised me that good luck would arrive via the mail if I made and distributed twenty copies to people who I thought needed good luck.   The letter did not specifically threaten that anything terrible would happen if I didn’t comply.  So, although I felt a little superstitious, I didn’t do anything about it.  I couldn’t think of twenty people who needed good luck.  I didn’t want to bother any of my friends with a chain letter. I felt I would be doing them a favor not to. I think I already have pretty good luck. As a fisherman I’m always mindful of luck and usually do pretty well, even when other people are using the same fly and method and not catching Shiite. Two weeks later I received a surprise check for over three thousand dollars.  I had forgotten about it, but my grandfather had died years before and I inherited a small share of the estate.  Since he had been retired for over twenty-five years and had twenty grandchildren, I didn’t expect more than a few hundred dollars.  I spent most of it on quality tackle. Three weeks later I caught my biggest trout ever.  It was my only bite on a day at a lake where everyone was complaining about how poor the fishing was.  As the season progressed, I continued with exceptional luck and caught four even bigger fish. You do not have to do anything with this letter.  Don’t make twenty copies.  Don’t give it to your friends or pass it along.  Don’t worry about "breaking the chain".  Just take a nice deep breath, and imagine yourself out in a beautiful lake or stream, on a nice sunny day, enjoying everything that you see, feel, hear, and smell.  Life is great, and full of endless possibilities.  Remember that positive visualization is the key to good luck.  If you believe that it can happen, it can.  Fish as often as you can and keep your fly on the water. Have a great day, Mark Vinsel http://www.lanminds.com/local/vinnie/gallery.html

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: I hope that you aren’t offended by this post. I felt I : just had to let everyone know how they could make 50,000 : flies a year !  It is all very legal, so don’t worry.   : I saw this posted a while back and I thought "hah, this : is such a big joke !" Well, it is not a big joke.  In my : first week, I had a wooly bugger, 2 hares ears and a : Grizzly King ! Was I ever impressed !!!  It is very : simple ! Simply add your name to the bottom of this : list and mail a fly to everyone else on the list, when : you have your name at the top of the list, you will : have received 50,000 flies.  Please no glow bugs ! : TBone Walker : TimW : Timmy ("trouser Trout") Walker : T. S. Walker : TBone Powlesland Jed Clampit Jethro Bodean Clampit Granny Clampit Jane the bankers secretary — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/

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Jed Clampit Jethro Bodean Clampit Granny Clampit Jane the bankers secretary — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ —

Hey dammit, Granny was a Moses (Daisy, to be specific), not a Clampett. John Nesselrode Shawnee, KS

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I hope that you aren’t offended by this post. I felt I just had to let everyone know how they could make 50,000 flies a year !  It is all very legal, so don’t worry.   I saw this posted a while back and I thought "hah, this is such a big joke !" Well, it is not a big joke.  In my first week, I had a wooly bugger, 2 hares ears and a Grizzly King ! Was I ever impressed !!!  It is very simple ! Simply add your name to the bottom of this list and mail a fly to everyone else on the list, when you have your name at the top of the list, you will have received 50,000 flies.  Please no glow bugs ! TBone Walker TimW Timmy ("trouser Trout") Walker T. S. Walker TBone Powlesland

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: I hope that you aren’t offended by this post. I felt I : just had to let everyone know how they could make 50,000 : flies a year !  It is all very legal, so don’t worry.   : I saw this posted a while back and I thought "hah, this : is such a big joke !" Well, it is not a big joke.  In my : first week, I had a wooly bugger, 2 hares ears and a : Grizzly King ! Was I ever impressed !!!  It is very : simple ! Simply add your name to the bottom of this : list and mail a fly to everyone else on the list, when : you have your name at the top of the list, you will : have received 50,000 flies.  Please no glow bugs !

This really does work.  I did as told and after 6 weeks had to add an addition on the house to house all the flies.  (How do I get people to send me fly boxes? I prefer wheatleys please.) JC Johann John F. Close The Mad Mathematician

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Mmmm, and the delectable Ellie Mae. …jm

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I am in the process of opening a new fly shop and would like to know of some fly wholesalers.  Please E-mail me with any info.  Shop owners, your help would be greatly appreciated.  THANKS

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I am in the process of opening a new fly shop and would like to know of some fly wholesalers.  Please E-mail me with any info.  Shop owners, your help would be greatly appreciated.  THANKS

Hi Dan Bailey’s is a good source of wholesale flies. Call 800-356-4052. Good Luck. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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now THAT’S my kinda fishing…!   Tell me more – floating lines? light rods? all day and no worries? YEH..!! Oliver

Oliver, There seems to be a popular myth in America that states that the only way to catch trout today is with a strike indicator, split shot, and nymph. It saddens me to think of the enjoyment that is being missed by the legions of newcomers who feel compelled to fish this method to the exclusion of all others. The beauty of skillfully fishing the greased-line method with a somber, imitative wet fly is challenged only by the thrill of the rise to a dry (IMHO).    Alan Barnard        Kiene’s Fly Shop    Sacramento, Ca.  

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Alan Your humble opinion is right on!   Oliver

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he relevance of ethics on method of fishing for trout as long as it is on a ‘line’ is perpetually debatable.In Tasmania the local population regard using anything less than a .22 magnum combined with a 500 watt spotlight as too ‘hard’.   As anyone who fishes for trout regularily would be aware that Tasmania rates as a premier wild Brown Trout fishery globaly I feel the full potential of this little isle requires far better a fisheries than currently in place.

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I am an avid fly fisherman living in Maine. This season due to travel for work I was unable to get out more than a dozen times. anyone have info on how the fishing season went? Did the salmon(Atlantics) return in large numbers. Did lack of rain hurt the fishery? Any info would be appreciated and what info I have will be sent out at a later time.                                        Murph

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yes,the lack of rain hurt. –

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Hi I live in the Highlands of Scotland and don’t get much time for fishing.   BUT when I do it is almost entirely brown trout ( very common) ana salmon ( very expensive)both on the fly. Is there anyone out there who remembers old fashioned ‘wet fly’ fishing, or even better, lives in the old world?  I would love a confab! Tight lines and don’t strike too late Oliver, Inverness

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now THAT’S my kinda fishing…!   Tell me more – floating lines? light rods? all day and no worries? YEH..!! Oliver

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –    Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly    Organization: Temple University, Academic Computer Services    Misha,    Personally, I would bag the idea of using clip swivels at all.  From    personal experience, they tend to sink dry flys and they also are    difficult to get your fly onto (which if you’re using a dry will almost    certainly cause you to crush the hackles, tail, etc.). How ’bout pre-tying on the tippet, with a loop at the end, for a loop-to-loop -type of connection? — Matt Meola NRA Life, Libertarian, Militiaman Gun control means using two hands. Live free or die!

Matt, A loop-to-loop connection between the tippet and the next section of the leader might not allow the fly to turn over as easily (compared with, say a surgeons or barrel knot).  Also, it would seem to be a little too bulky for my taste, which could possibly put down some fish. Also, I have my doubts concerning the practicality of carrying around a hundred or so flys with tippets already attached (I’m implying that this was what you were getting at previously.  I apologize in advance if I misinterpreted your posting.). Best Regards, Jim Davis Philadelphia, PA Temple University

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It gets rather tiring when I have to switch Flies and have to continue retying different Flies onto my line.. I use #14 and was wondering are their any types of Clip Swiviles out there for quick Fly changing..

Clips or swivels are too heavy and are not made in sizes small enough for the flies needed sometimes by trout. The simplest solution is to learn the turle knot, which is easy (can almost be tied blindfold or at night) and does not mash hackles. —  |          Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Rd., Carlsbad         |  |        Springs, Ont., Canada K0A 1K0; tel: (613) 822-0734       |  |  "What I’ve always liked about science is its independence from |  |  authority"–Ontario Science Centre (name on file) 10 July 1981 |

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   Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly    Organization: Temple University, Academic Computer Services    Misha,    Personally, I would bag the idea of using clip swivels at all.  From    personal experience, they tend to sink dry flys and they also are    difficult to get your fly onto (which if you’re using a dry will almost    certainly cause you to crush the hackles, tail, etc.). How ’bout pre-tying on the tippet, with a loop at the end, for a loop-to-loop -type of connection? — Matt Meola NRA Life, Libertarian, Militiaman Gun control means using two hands. Live free or die!

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It gets rather tiring when I have to switch Flies and have to continue retying different Flies onto my line.. I use #14 and was wondering are their any types of Clip Swiviles out there for quick Fly changing.. Misha

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It gets rather tiring when I have to switch Flies and have to continue retying different Flies onto my line.. I use #14 and was wondering are their any types of Clip Swiviles out there for quick Fly changing.. Misha

Misha, Personally, I would bag the idea of using clip swivels at all.  From personal experience, they tend to sink dry flys and they also are difficult to get your fly onto (which if you’re using a dry will almost certainly cause you to crush the hackles, tail, etc.). Best Regards, Jim Davis Philadelphia, PA Temple University

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Maybe these fly fishing yuppies everybody likes to harangue are good for the sport. Although the Bureau of Reclamation, Army Corps of Engineers and state and local irrigation agencies aren’t building dams like they used to, there’s still lots of opportunity to ruin good streams, right? Who do you suppose is better positioned to fight a project that will ruin a particular stream: some misanthropic, authority-detesting fly fishing zealot who wields no power outside of his Sage 5-wt?; or an Orvis jeep-driving lawyer who’s been fly fishing since she saw A River Runs Through It? I’ll take the lawyer, thank you. I doubt the misanthrope knows much about how to organize and file for an injunction protecting the river. Maybe we should help these yuppies get *into* the club and with the program. Building a powerful, moneyed constituency for preserving our streams and rivers makes common sense.–Just my 2 cents. –Eric Robinson

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Make that .04  I think this yuppie-bashing is ludricrous.  Does the sport belong to the impoverished?  Anyone who is interested in flyfishing and all that it entails gets my nod, no matter what his/her economic bracket.  The rest is simple jealousy. — Jim Benenson                 Los Alamos, New Mexico, USA "To protect your rivers, protect your mountains"       Emperor Yu of China, circa 1600 B.C.

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Who do you suppose is better positioned to fight a project that will ruin a particular stream: some misanthropic, authority-detesting fly fishing zealot who wields no power outside of his Sage 5-wt?; or an Orvis jeep-driving lawyer who’s been fly fishing since she saw A River Runs Through It? I’ll take the lawyer, thank you. I doubt the misanthrope knows much about how to organize and file for an injunction protecting the river.

You should get to know more of the people you mistakenly term "misanthropes."  The backbone of any fight to save a particular stream and watershed  is always comprised of local plumbers, electricians, telephone repairmen and the like.  These blue-collar workers usually come to appeals board and conservation commission meetings well-prepared to quote the regs from memory when appropriate, and to work around the regs when necessary. They call in scientific consultants and legal advisors when needed, but they do the real work, for one simple, overriding reason: They need local waters on which to fish, and on which to take their kids fishing.  If local waters are ruined, the yuppie can always take a long vacation to an exotic fishery; the blue-collar worker doesn’t always have that option.  When an environmental struggle deals with large regions, international boundaries or anadromous fisheries, then wealthy professionals are indeed the leaders of such struggles: the fight to save the Atlantic salmon is a good example.  We need to work side by side with both types of people, but don’t sell short the people who’ll never own an Orvis Jeep. Woods Hole, MA   USA

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IF WE DON’T HANG TOGETHER, WE ALL HANG-TOGETHER! REGARDS MK

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Aren’t they the ones that eat their own young?

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Not only will they eat their young they will also take a #28 Adams on 8X …. give it a try…. Thats how I get over cabin fever.  by the way make sure to use barbless hooks, guppies don’t seem to recover well from

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Well, I was down in Louisianna and stopped off on the side of the road at a creek.  Little minnows were swimming around on the surface.  I had some #14 hooks and some little pieces of worm.  The water was about 6 feet down from where my gf and I were standing.  We let our lines down and the minnows would grab the worm, not able to get the hook in their mouth.   They would hold onto it just enough that you could sling them out of the water.  We flicked them high enough that they went flying in the air and we would catch them in our hands.  We kept them in a bucket for some catfishing that night.  They did not seem to be harmed too much by their sudden flights into the air.  Guess its another way to catch fish.

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I need some help with a fly pattern. I am reading an article by Don Daughenbaugh, "American Angler" Sept/Oct 1994, pp. 42-45, which deals with tying a sow-bug pattern.   My questions are: 1. Where can one get Pantone permanent magic markers?                   2. What is CA Adhesive (Zap-A-Gap), and where can                      one purchase it? I live near Pittsburgh, PA, and have visited a few of the local fly fishing stored, but to no avail.  Any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.  BTW/ The end of the article states that Mr. Daughenbaugh lives in Pennsylvania, but does not give an address or fly-fishing store that he might be affiliated with. This pattern looks like it might do the trick on Central Pennsylvania’s Spring Creek.  It seems as though every rock you turn over in this stream is just loaded with sowbugs (40-50 per 8 in diameter rock). Probably one of the reasons the trout in this stream do so well. Also, any fishing reports from Spring Creek would be welcomed. Thanks, John P. Coxey

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I need some help with a fly pattern. I am reading an article by Don Daughenbaugh, "American Angler" Sept/Oct  1994, pp. 42-45, which deals with tying a sow-bug pattern.   My questions are: 1. Where can one get Pantone permanent magic markers? John: You should call the American Museum of Flyfishing in Manchester Vt. 802-362-3300. Don Johnson is ex.director. Call me any Satrurday  6-7AM toll free at 800-298-8255. I have a radio show that goes to 200 cities call the Fishin’ Zone. It is sponsored by the Fisheries Defense Fund a non profit ortganization that is dedicated to the preservation of America’s Fishery Resources. You can mention my name to the museum as I am a trustee. Tight Lines.. Steve Sloan                  2. What is CA Adhesive (Zap-A-Gap), and where can                     one purchase it? I live near Pittsburgh, PA, and have visited a few of the local fly  fishing stored, but to no avail.  Any help you could provide would be  greatly appreciated.   BTW/ The end of the article states that Mr.   Daughenbaugh lives in Pennsylvania, but does not give an address or  fly-fishing store that he might be affiliated with. This pattern looks like it might do the trick on Central Pennsylvania’s  Spring Creek.  It seems as though every rock you turn over in this  stream is just loaded with sowbugs (40-50 per 8 in diameter rock).   Probably one of the reasons the trout in this stream do so well. Also, any fishing reports from Spring Creek would be welcomed. Thanks, John P. Coxey

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