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I was looking at those before everyone suggested that stocking foot was the way to go.. Any second thoughts from you guys?

Only one. For the coldest conditions (winter tailwater fishing, goose hunting in a blizzard, etc.) you can’t beat the warmth of a pair of 5 mm neoprene bootfoot waders. But for anything else, I’d go with a pair of stocking foot waders with a good pair of wading boots. How cold is it where/when you plan to use them? — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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Lou, Like somebody else mentioned, it all depends on where you plan to fish. As for myself, fishing on freestone creeks and doing a good bit of walking, I am a big fan of stockingfoot waders and good wading boots. Reducing the risk of a sprained ankle far outweighs the extra five minutes or so it takes to put them on. Bob

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Greg I was looking at those before everyone suggested that stocking foot was the way to go.. Any second thoughts from you guys? Lou FWIW: Cabelas has a lace up bootfoot model this year too.   I see that they’re a heck of a lot cheaper,  and the boots (from the small photo) look  like they might provide better ankle support.

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Wayne & Others Wet wading, even in late summer is not much of a option here in Michigan’s Western UP. The streams and rivers run cold. The trout seem to like it but a guy can freeze his ass off in these waters…..

Granted, it may not be for everyone, but I’ve often waded wet in the various branches of the Ontonagon, Cook’s Run, Big and Little Carps, the Paint, the Fence, both Brules, the Firesteel, several of the Irons, the Sturgeon, and a host of others in the western UP. You get used to it after a while.     Wolfgang numb nu…….well, never mind.

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Wolfgang You R tougher than me.   I’ve tried fishing the SalmonTrout river in nylon windpants and  rubber sandals. Goddddd that water is cold. I need waders! BTW,,you were less than an hour from my home so if you wander this way again send me a E mail first. If you do I’ll buy you a beer and maybe we could consider fishing together. Lou

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wayne & Others Wet wading, even in late summer is not much of a option here in Michigan’s Western UP. The streams and rivers run cold. The trout seem to like it but a guy can freeze his ass off in these waters….. Granted, it may not be for everyone, but I’ve often waded wet in the various branches of the Ontonagon, Cook’s Run, Big and Little Carps, the Paint, the Fence, both Brules, the Firesteel, several of the Irons, the Sturgeon, and a host of others in the western UP. You get used to it after a while.     Wolfgang numb nu…….well, never mind.

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Greg Over the past year I often loaded  Cabelas Dry Plus bought waders, a chest pack, change of cloths, and some pop into a mid size pack. I’d catty a old wicker creel over one shoulder and carry my rod in a case. I don’t think the whole thing weighted 30 pounds and was no big deal to hike in with. I want to thank everyone here for their advice but I noticed that Cabelas had my old Dry Plus Breathable bought on sale for $100. I probably went fishing 100 + times last year and sure got my money’s worth and liked my old waders. I guess habit/ low price over comes good sense so I bought another pair today.. Lou

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was looking at those before everyone suggested that stocking foot was the way to go.. Any second thoughts from you guys?  I spend at least half of my fishing time in water  under 50 degrees or on beaches.   The laced  bootfoots have worked out quite well for that.  They are also easier to deal with: one piece  instead of the 3-5 (counting guards) that I would  be sure to forget one or more of.  The max distance that I have hiked in one day  is probably no more than 4-5 miles.  If I were  going to do some serious off-road hiking to get  to fishing water, I’m pretty sure that I would opt  to carry the waders in, since it would be inevitable  that I would destroy them otherwise (but first I  would have to have some serious work done on  one knee…).  The one disadvantage I  have in using bootfoots is  that I can’t switch between felt and studded soles.  So I used corkers for a while, which I couldn’t stand.  More recently I bought a pair of what looks like old-  fashioned galoshes with studs and a drawstring that  I slip on over the bootfeet (I think that Dan Bailey  distributes them).   They’re much more comfortable  and easy to slog through water in than corkers, but  I don’t believe that they work as well – too much metal  on the bottom so weight isn’t concentrated as well –  and the metal is quite soft, so it is abrading rather  quickly.  I’m pretty sure that I am going to buy another pair  of laced bootfoot waders soon and outfit one pair  with studs.

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HIYA guys I’ve always used bootfoot waders but I wonder if I’d be better off with stockingfoot. What do you folks use and why? Lou

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HIYA guys I’ve always used bootfoot waders but I wonder if I’d be better off with stockingfoot. What do you folks use and why?

Stockingfoot allows you to wear a custom boot that has the best fit (including laces), and also to change boots.

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HIYA guys I’ve always used bootfoot waders but I wonder if I’d be better off with stockingfoot. What do you folks use and why? Lou

Stocking foot are best all around for convenience and comfort.Boot foot are best for cold water winter fishing and for fishing the beach.Why choose, it’s best to have both. Regards,  Flypaint(Shawn)

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Hi Lou, I have sold/fitted waders to anglers and hunters for 37 years now, but we specialize in waders for fly fishers now. Today in California we sell 100% stocking foot chest high breathable waders for fly fishing. A few years ago we sold only stocking foot neoprene waders and light weight non-breathable stocking foot waders. Boot foot waders are faster and easier to put on, but you don’t get the ankle support that you get with a lace up boot on a stocking foot wader  for walking long distances in trout streams. Also, it is hard to really fit people well with boot foot waders because you need to get the chest/body size right first, then the right inseam length and then the right boot size. We use to sell neoprene boot foot waders a little, but had them "custom" fitted. If you could order boot foot waders with your body size, inseam length and then a good boot fit, they are great for those fast situation where you don’ walk a lot. The story on hip boots is that everyone I know that has fished with me over the years has gone in over the top during a day of fly fishing in Northern California. It is either chest high stocking foot breathable waders or wade wet in northern California in the summer. We sell a few waist high waders a year now but with the onset of breathables it is not as necessary as it was with non-breathables. — Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento, CA, USA www.kiene.com

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HIYA guys I’ve always used bootfoot waders but I wonder if I’d be better off with stockingfoot. What do you folks use and why? Lou

        stockingfoot.  because we wade wet down here after mid april, and thus need protection from the ankle up very infrequently.  if you ever hiked up to the middle falls on snowbird in late july, in even "breathable" chest high waders, you’d fully understand. wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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HIYA guys I’ve always used bootfoot waders but I wonder if I’d be better off with stockingfoot. What do you folks use and why? Lou stockingfoot.  because we wade wet down here after mid april, and thus need protection from the ankle up very infrequently.  if you ever hiked up to the middle falls on snowbird in late july, in even "breathable" chest high waders, you’d fully understand.

Quick word of caution…walking in shorts through briars and scrub that scratch the legs…then standing in biota rich pond water is a recipe for some interesting rash and infection…the notion of keeping alcohol pads back at the truck is a good one. — TBone Walker The Halfordian Golfer

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Guys Thanks to all of you who offered advice. I trust  the wisdom of this NG and will invest in some stocking foot waders and boots. BTW..I live in the Michigan’s Upper Peninsula, my old 5mm cold weather/ ice in the  river  waders are still in good shape but my summer ones are shot. I very often pack in my gear including waders on my back and them get organized streamside. Thanks again.. Lou

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – HIYA guys I’ve always used bootfoot waders but I wonder if I’d be better off with stockingfoot. What do you folks use and why? Lou stockingfoot.  because we wade wet down here after mid april, and thus need protection from the ankle up very infrequently.  if you ever hiked up to the middle falls on snowbird in late july, in even "breathable" chest high waders, you’d fully understand. Quick word of caution…walking in shorts through briars and scrub that scratch the legs…then standing in biota rich pond water is a recipe for some interesting rash and infection…the notion of keeping alcohol pads back at the truck is a good one. — TBone Walker The Halfordian Golfer

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Quick word of caution…walking in shorts through briars and scrub that scratch the legs…then standing in biota rich pond water is a recipe for some interesting rash and infection…the notion of keeping alcohol pads back at the truck is a good one. — TBone Walker The Halfordian Golfer

Taking a bottle of alcohol along to the stream has proved more popular it seems. TL MC

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Quick word of caution…walking in shorts through briars and scrub that scratch the legs…then standing in biota rich pond water is a recipe for some interesting rash and infection…the notion of keeping alcohol pads back at the truck is a good one. — TBone Walker The Halfordian Golfer Taking a bottle of alcohol along to the stream has proved more popular it seems.

I was refering to the ‘optional’ variety. — TBone Walker The Halfordian Golfer

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FWIW: Cabelas has a lace up bootfoot model this year too.

I was looking at those before everyone suggested that stocking foot was the way to go.. Any second thoughts from you guys?

I don’t have a second thought – I still prefer stocking foot.  For all the reasons previously mentioned, plus the EEEE show size I need<g. –Stan

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For what it is worth, the latest cabela’s catalog has laceup boot foots as well. Chris Richer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wet wading, even in late summer is not much of a option here in Michigan’s Western UP. The streams and rivers run cold.  Same in western NY and Ontario. The trout seem to like it but a guy can freeze his ass off in these waters. Going to take all the good advice and set up with stocking foot + boots.  Before you do you might want to take a quick look  at Orvis’s breathables with lace-up boot foots.

– Chris Richer chrisratnostormspamdotca

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Greg I was looking at those before everyone suggested that stocking foot was the way to go.. Any second thoughts from you guys? Lou

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – FWIW: Cabelas has a lace up bootfoot model this year too.   I see that they’re a heck of a lot cheaper,  and the boots (from the small photo) look  like they might provide better ankle support.

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Why Lou!  That’s for your annual bonefish trip to the Keys! Wayne to fish is human….to release Divine!! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wayne & Others Wet wading, even in late summer is not much of a option here in Michigan’s Western UP. The streams and rivers run cold. The trout seem to like it but a guy can freeze his ass off in these waters. Going to take all the good advice and set up with stocking foot + boots. Lou

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 Before you do you might want to take a quick look  at Orvis’s breathables with lace-up boot foots.

FWIW: Cabelas has a lace up bootfoot model this year too.

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Wayne & Others Wet wading, even in late summer is not much of a option here in Michigan’s Western UP. The streams and rivers run cold. The trout seem to like it but a guy can freeze his ass off in these waters. Going to take all the good advice and set up with stocking foot + boots. Lou

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For may of the reasons already stated, go stocking foot.  Besides being able to change boot types and properly fit the boot, you can wet wade sans waders with a good boot in hot climes; maximum versatility.  As Bill recommended; go with breathables. Considere neoprene socks when wet wading with boots and keep in mind, some boots like Chota Brookies have removable insoles for use with and without waders. — Wayne To Fish is Human…To Release Divine! HIYA guys I’ve always used bootfoot waders but I wonder if I’d be better off with stockingfoot. What do you folks use and why? Lou

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… they are composed of poly-cotton with layers of codura on the knees and ass.  that’s because if you aren’t on the former when you fish, you aint gonna catch any of the latter, in hazel creek.

I fished all day on Hazel Creek, was on my knees most of the time and I STILL didn’t catch any ass. Need another lesson from the master, I guess. — Ken Fortenberry

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For may of the reasons already stated, go stocking foot.  Besides being able to change boot types and properly fit the boot, you can wet wade sans waders with a good boot in hot climes; maximum versatility.  As Bill recommended; go with breathables. Considere neoprene socks when wet wading with boots and keep in mind, some boots like Chota Brookies have removable insoles for use with and without waders. — Wayne To Fish is Human…To Release Divine!

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No reason you can’t use quick-dry long pants.  They even make ones that have zip-off bottoms (i.e. convertible to shorts.)

        actually, my "fishing pants" are what were originally designed as warm weather bird hunting pants:  they are composed of poly-cotton with layers of codura on the knees and ass.  that’s because if you aren’t on the former when you fish, you aint gonna catch any of the latter, in hazel creek.         what the hell, it’s after 6, and it’s been a long day. wayno

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Quick word of caution…walking in shorts through briars and scrub that scratch the legs…then standing in biota rich pond water is a recipe for some interesting rash and infection…the notion of keeping alcohol pads back at the truck is a good one.

No reason you can’t use quick-dry long pants.  They even make ones that have zip-off bottoms (i.e. convertible to shorts.)

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stockingfoot.  because we wade wet down here after mid april, and thus need protection from the ankle up very infrequently.  if you ever hiked up to the middle falls on snowbird in late july, in even "breathable" chest high waders, you’d fully understand.

Good point.  I have used my wading boots without waders on quite a few occasions.

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50" World Record Rainbow Trout There was a priest that loved to stream fish. One year there was a problem every time he had a chance to go fishing the weather was bad or it was on Sunday, when he had to work. All year he was unable to go. Finally it was the last week before the streams closed. The weather was bad all week until Sunday, when the weather was great. The priest could not resist, he called a fellow priest claiming to be very sick and asked if he could take over his sermon. The flyfishing priest drove over 200 miles, not wishing to see anyone he knew. An angel seeing the priest playing hooky went to God and said "Your not  going to let him get away with this are you?". God agreed he should do something .  The first cast the priest made was perfect. The fly floated past a log  and a huge mouth gulped the fly down. For 45 minutes the priest ran up and down the stream fighting the mighty fish. At the end he held a 50" world record rainbow trout. Confused the angel asked God, "What are you doing?". God replied "Think about it, who’s he going to tell?"   Scouse From Down-Under (Look at this-stop working and gofishing!) http://www.goingplatinum.com/member/evg

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Trout HMMMMMM ok Bubba page updated weekly http://community.webtv.net/road_runer/BubbasFishing If you like to search this is for you works for me could not beleave it.        V http://www.searchcactus.com/member/welcome.asp?160404

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Aw, c’mon, W1.  If it was a world’s record bass, would that have made it funnier? W2  :-))

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BORING! WW;-) Trout HMMMMMM ok Bubba page updated weekly http://community.webtv.net/road_runer/BubbasFishing If you like to search this is for you works for me could not beleave it.        V http://www.searchcactus.com/member/welcome.asp?160404

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BORING! WW;-) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Trout HMMMMMM ok Bubba page updated weekly http://community.webtv.net/road_runer/BubbasFishing If you like to search this is for you works for me could not beleave it.        V http://www.searchcactus.com/member/welcome.asp?160404

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But of course W2! W1

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Aw, c’mon, W1.  If it was a world’s record bass, would that have made it funnier? W2  :-)) BORING! WW;-) Trout HMMMMMM ok Bubba page updated weekly http://community.webtv.net/road_runer/BubbasFishing If you like to search this is for you works for me could not beleave it.        V http://www.searchcactus.com/member/welcome.asp?160404

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Hi I going from Denmark/Europe to Vancouver BC/Canda for a Computer conference 9-12th of october and I’m looking for the possibility for one or two persons to go for 2-5 days of fishing mainly fly fishing between 13-20th. of october, any [adfordable] hints ? Siimvej 20 8680 Ry Denmark

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Steffen, Call or write Fred, I guarantee good fishing and a good time. Helmer, Fred E-mail Address(es): Business Information:   Company: Fred’s Custom Tackle & Fishing Adventures   Address:     Unit 1- 5880 Vedder Rd..     Chilliwack BC V2R 5P4   Phone: 604-858-7344 Fred deals with a great many European clients. — See our Sharks at the Mandalay Bay Casino in Las Vegas!!!! <*))))< Paul Phillips Director of Operations Fintastic Fish Mounts http://www.fintastic.com/ spam block x – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi I going from Denmark/Europe to Vancouver BC/Canda for a Computer conference 9-12th of october and I’m looking for the possibility for one or two persons to go for 2-5 days of fishing mainly fly fishing between 13-20th. of october, any [adfordable] hints ? Siimvej 20 8680 Ry Denmark

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http://www.guidebc.com/ Vic Carrao is one of the best,most reasonable guides in the Fraser Valley. Also ask about Sturgeon fishing – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Steffen, Call or write Fred, I guarantee good fishing and a good time. Helmer, Fred E-mail Address(es): Business Information:   Company: Fred’s Custom Tackle & Fishing Adventures   Address:     Unit 1- 5880 Vedder Rd..     Chilliwack BC V2R 5P4   Phone: 604-858-7344 Fred deals with a great many European clients. — See our Sharks at the Mandalay Bay Casino in Las Vegas!!!! <*))))< Paul Phillips Director of Operations Fintastic Fish Mounts http://www.fintastic.com/ spam block x Hi I going from Denmark/Europe to Vancouver BC/Canda for a Computer conference 9-12th of october and I’m looking for the possibility for one or two persons to go for 2-5 days of fishing mainly fly fishing between 13-20th. of october, any [adfordable] hints ? Siimvej 20 8680 Ry Denmark

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The Sylvania Tract, a little west of Ironwood, has geat smallmouth fishing.  It is all canoe, catch and release, barbless hooks only, and if you stay in overnight, has only primitive camping.  It is possible to rent a canoe and go into Clark Lake in the morning, fish the day, and get out before dark.  It’s not that big a lake.  We fished in June and caught bass to 21 inches.  I expect if you do a search on Sylvania Tract you will quickly find info. good luck

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I’m heading up to Ironwood, Michigan for a wedding in mid August.  Does anyone have any advice on some good fishing spots nearby?  Any type from fly-fishing for trout to trolling for walleye would be appreciated. Thanks, SB

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I was up in that neck of the woods last summer and did some fly fishing in two general locations in that area. The Porcupine mountains are a few miles northeast from Ironwood. I didn’t catch too much there, but it sure is a pretty place with some beautiful vistas and backcountry. If you take Rt. 2 east to Watersmeet, you’ll come to the Ontonogon River. Easy to wade and full of cooperative brookies. I had great luck with small royal wolffs. When you buy your license, get a free copy of Michigan’s Inland Trout and Salmon Guide, which has maps of the whole state and its trout streams. Good luck. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m heading up to Ironwood, Michigan for a wedding in mid August.  Does anyone have any advice on some good fishing spots nearby?  Any type from fly-fishing for trout to trolling for walleye would be appreciated. Thanks, SB

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I’m heading up to Ironwood, Michigan for a wedding in mid August.  Does anyone have any advice on some good fishing spots nearby?  Any type from fly-fishing for trout to trolling for walleye would be appreciated. Thanks, SB

    If you are daring and have a bit of cash book a charter out of the harbor about 45 min north of there (The name escapes me right now Black River Harbor???) .  The Salmon should be just offshore by then.  Otherwise you have world class musky and walleye waters about 30 minutes south in the Turtle Flambeau Flowage in Wisconsin.  No Trolling allowed but this is world class water with many opportunties.  Clear and dark waters lie in the flowage and boat rentals as well as local info are available.  Night fishing may be the key for some really big fish by then.    As for trout streams the Montreal can yield some good catches late in the season if the water remains high enough and is only 15-20 minutes to the west.  Then you do have the Brule to the east, but personally I believe it is overrated and overfished. Good luck.  Both to you and the future wedded couple. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Ernie, I assume you are in eastern PA? I am new to flyfishing, but do know where you can do some awesome striper fishing if you aren’t too far east. Raystown Lake has great landlocked striper fishing. 20-30 pounders are the norm and 40+ pounders are caught every year. They do have a website, not sure of the url. Try a search. good luck, Matt

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Hey Guys, Been Fishing the Salt with a fly rod and other tackle for a while now.  Always looking for people to go with.  Would be interested in hearing from any body close. I am in NW Montgomery county.  Any body interested shoot me an email. Ernie, I would suggest a 10WT for most of your fishing, and an intermediate shooting setup for most of your fishing in the surf.  Seems like you are doing battle with the wind most of the time.  Faster sinking lines are great from jetties and intlets.  Get a stipping basket.  Fishing the surf with a fly rod can be very productive for several species in NJ and north coast waters and sometimes it will out produce conventional and spin tackle. Experiment… Damian Damian NuWave Tackle Innovative products designed by fishermen for fishermen Fly Tying equip and matls., Tackle and more. http://www.nuwavetackle.com/

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Thanks Paul              Ernie

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Hello Ernie, Like any "species specific" fishing, you first have to know your quarry and then you must understand your quarry’s quarry.  Check out http://www.fishbelly.com , it’s a new web site that is loaded with great information on fishing for all species of fish.  However, to meet your needs, check out the article by Lefty Kreh on fishing his deceiver fly http://www.fishbelly.com/articles/lk110399.htm Bookmark the site because there’s a new article coming soon by Lou Tabory that deals with how to present your flies for best results.  We will also be highlighting the many different prey items that all species of game fish love.  We will include underwater images that will help you "match the hatch" so to speak, in salt water. I hope this info helps.  If you have any other questions, hop on the fishbelly message forum and I’ll be happy to try and answer them. Finally, if you’re looking for "in depth" — no pun intended — information on stripers, check out the selection of videos at Fishbelly.  As an underwater videographer who has spent over 40 years in the striper’s domain, I can promise you any of the Laptew Production videos will make you a better striper angler. Seize the day!  Go fishing. Mike

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After many years of trouting I would like to give stripers a try. I live in Penna, and can easily get to NJ or the Cape , beforo I start calling guides, some basic info      (when, where, with who) would be appreciated                                                  Thanks,                                                            Ernie

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After many years of trouting I would like to give stripers a try. I live in Penna, and can easily get to NJ or the Cape , beforo I start calling guides, some basic info      (when, where, with who) would be appreciated                                                  Thanks,                                                            Ernie

For equipment you’ll want a 9wt, a sinking line and a reel that’s doesn’t say freshwater only. You can use a 7wt but if it’s really windy or you catch a really big fish you’ll appreciate the 9wt. A few clouser and a a few decievers are all you’ll need for flies. The early season in MA chartruse is a good color. I can’t help with NJ. Check with a local shop for what colors are good. If you buy the flies at the same shop you’re likely to get better advice. Paul

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Jeff, What I would do, and what I did, was take a friend or two that know how to row a boat.  This on-the-job training is invaluable.  It doesn’t take very long to learn the basic skills.  When you no longer work up a sweat or scare the hell out of yourself, you are getting proficient.  Always be alert and remember that safety comes before fishing.  If I can row a drift boat, anyone can learn.  Good luck. Jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I’ve been drifting with a number of guides over the past few years and would like to purchase a drift boat of my own soon. The major problem is that I am totally ignorant of HOW to drift a river in a boat. I am certainly not going to just "launch and learn" with on the job training. How does one go about learning to do it safely? Is it a watch and listen thing or are there instructors, books, web sites? To all you drift boat experts out there: How did you learn to do it? Thanks for listening, Jeff Marso Vancouver, WA.

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Try what I did last summer.  Let the guide fish and in return he should be very happy to show you the basics.  In a couple of hours, you should be able to handle easy water without a problem.

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I’ve been drifting with a number of guides over the past few years and would like to purchase a drift boat of my own soon. The major problem is that I am totally ignorant of HOW to drift a river in a boat. I am certainly not going to just "launch and learn" with on the job training. How does one go about learning to do it safely? Is it a watch and listen thing or are there instructors, books, web sites? To all you drift boat experts out there: How did you learn to do it? Thanks for listening, Jeff Marso Vancouver, WA.

Rowing a drift boat in a river or moving stream isnt that hard.   If you can read water!   First thing to remember is that all your maneuvering will be done by rowing backwards.  As you approch a rapids look at the surface of the water and see where the main current is running.  By rowing upstream or backwards position the boat in the main current or on the edge of the main current.   Never push with the oars to try to get out of a bad situation in current, row backwards or try to row up stream when making a move.   Always keep your bow pointing down stream, never get sideways or you might catch a edge….if your going to hit something hit it head on.   Have the boat balanced out so your not rowing with one oar more than the other.  You don’t need to dip the whole oar into the water, the tip of the oar will have plenty of power to postion the boat. Have a extra oar in the boat, you never know when your going to break or lose one.  Be safe and walk the boat through any water your not confident about.  Stop and look at any rapids that look bad to you, Make a mental map of how to get through it. Sharp Hooks, Pat Holdzit Fishing Products Inc. http://www.holdzit.com Before you buy.

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I’ve been drifting with a number of guides over the past few years and would like to purchase a drift boat of my own soon. The major problem is that I am totally ignorant of HOW to drift a river in a boat. I am certainly not going to just "launch and learn" with on the job training. How does one go about learning to do it safely? Is it a watch and listen thing or are there instructors, books, web sites? To all you drift boat experts out there: How did you learn to do it? Thanks for listening, Jeff Marso Vancouver, WA.

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I’ve been drifting with a number of guides over the past few years and would like to purchase a drift boat of my own soon. The major problem is that I am totally ignorant of HOW to drift a river in a boat. I am certainly not going to just "launch and learn" with on the job training. How does one go about learning to do it safely? Is it a watch and listen thing or are there instructors, books, web sites? To all you drift boat experts out there: How did you learn to do it? Thanks for listening, Jeff Marso Vancouver, WA.

well, you can read some books or watch a video to get some idea about what the manuevers are, but imo the best way is to find some easy water to drift (no rapids, just some wide open riffles, like the skagit from rockport to concrete) and make some floats playing around maneuvering back and forth.  this will get you used to the power needed and get the feel for the oars. don’t know what river qualifies as that easy in and around vancouver, but the local flyshop would probably have a pretty good idea of some safe, easy water. good luck, chris

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DRIFTBOAT AXIOM:   Where you don’t want to go is more important than where you do want to go. In a driftboat, you can push on the oars (when they’re dipped in the water) or pull. But you’ll find you have far more arm strength when you pull. But when you pull, you go backwards. So that’s what you do: to go somewhere, you pull on the oars (hands extended at first, then hands at chest), and go there rear end first. More important, if there is someplace you DO NOT want to go (like a log jamb, suck hole or shallow riffe) point the boat at the bad place and pull hard on the oars. That’s all you need to know! — /* Sandy Pittendrigh                  –oO0  * http://montana-riverboats.com  */

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Jeffery I read your post about learning to row a drift boat and would suggest the following video  "How To Row A Drift Boat" it is produced and distributed by Hyde Drift Boats in Idaho Falls, Idaho. You can get a copy by visiting the web site http://www.hydeboats.com If you are serious about learning to row safely then I suggest a river skills course.  I do not know what part of the country you are in but you should be able to find someone who offers it in your area.  Hyde runs a course in the fall at their location in Idaho Falls  and I run a week long course here in Missoula, Montana.  No matter what you decide to do please be safe, a drift boat can be a great way to enhance your fishing but they can be very dangerous in unskilled hands. Ray Beaulieu Montana Waters flyfishing outfitters

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Here’s the URL for the how-to video: http://www.flyshop.com/scripts/hyde/video.cfm Haven’t seen it myself, but with Hyde’s name on it, I’m sure it’s ok. Price is $24.95. Only thing I would add is the same advice I would give to any new owner of a small boat. Start out on lakes, then move on to slow rivers, and finally to the swifter ones. Get professional-level instruction if you can; an good alternative is to join a local paddlers club. Understand that while you can teach yourself, there is an increased level of danger in doing so, and you need to decide whether the added danger is acceptable to you. Finally, buy a set of lifejackets (3 for a mack boat) the same day you buy the boat. Wear yours anytime you’re aboard, so it will be there if/when you need it, and get your passengers to do the same. If you wear it all the time, you’ll get used to it, and the comfort factor will fade into the background; eventually, it will feel uncomfortable to be aboard *without* one. Almost forgot: The North Platte and the Upper Colorado should be fishing very well this summer. I prefer the bow seat. ;^) — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyo Before you buy.

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Try what I did last summer.  Let the guide fish and in return he should be very happy to show you the basics.  In a couple of hours, you should be able to handle easy water without a problem.

Yes, this is a great way to teach someone how to manouver a drift boat/raft stern seat (that’s back for those ‘naval-y challenged’). When drifting a river, practically all your main oar usage will be in the ‘pull’ mode instead of the ‘push’ mode. This slows down the boat on moving water (bow basically pointed downstream, of course) and,  besides allowing more time for an occupant(s) of the boat to present their fly to the offerings,  does allow you (the driver ) to manouver the boat around/through any dangers. With this in mind, if the Instructor Pilot is aft of the Student Pilot and the…. sorry, there goes that Marine Air training mindset again… What I meant was…. the guy in back (the instructor) can reach over the back/shoulders of the guy driving the boat (the student) and help him pull/ push/feather the oars for drifting that wonderful moving stream of water we call a trout river. Believe me when I say that to sit in the bow seat and ‘try’ to teach someone to oar a boat down a western river, unless it’s a big, slow, flat stretch of water, is a foolish thing. You can ‘tell’ someone how,  but from the front, you can’t ’show’ them how. — Tight Lines! Brian D. Nelson Diamond N Outfitters, Missoula, Montana http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm 406-626-4022

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I’d look long and hard at the Houston TX / Clear Lake, TX area….. Lots of boating/fishing most all year….. 525 square mile Galveston Bay!…. Fourth largest city in America for plays etc…  Extermely affordable housing, (check the stats )…Can’t comment on Govt services for your son…but sure the Chambers of Commerce could.  Too hot and sweaty in June July and August ( I go North then…) but you can’t have everything.  Suggest you search for Clear Lake Chamber of Commerce. If you don’;t find it, let me know, and I’ll get you a number or site.  I live 40 miles North of it! RG – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been offered an early retirement incentive that will give me 94% of my current salary.  I considering taking it an moving to the coastal gulf area.  I’m seeking comments about communities in the gulf area. The primary concerns I have are: availability of part time work, community services for the handicapped (I have a 21 y.o. son with autism.  He will need a sheltered workshop environment and respite services),  Affordable housing (150,000 to 200,000 range), tax liability, fishing, and access to cultural events (concerts, plays, orchestras, ect.) Before you buy.

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I’d look long and hard at the Houston TX / Clear Lake, TX area….. Lots of boating/fishing most all year….. 525 square mile Galveston Bay!…. Fourth largest city in America for plays etc…  Extermely affordable housing, (check the stats )…Can’t comment on Govt services for your son…but sure

No, they could not. The only way to determine if the social services in an area are adequate is to spend a considerable amount of time investigating them on your own, or to hire a competent licensed social worker to assist you. Chambers of commerce do not know about private or public social services. — Harry Krause "To Goldy Bo…"  "CUT!"  "Bo Toldly…"  "CUT!"

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RE govt services. It so happens that my son is a counselor in a local school district for dis-advantaged??? kids.  A good friend of my wife was second in charge in the same school district for  "special eductation".  If it comes down to checking that portion of the decision out,   I’d be glad to prevail – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been offered an early retirement incentive that will give me 94% of my current salary.  I considering taking it an moving to the coastal gulf area.  I’m seeking comments about communities in the gulf area. The primary concerns I have are: availability of part time work, community services for the handicapped (I have a 21 y.o. son with autism.  He will need a sheltered workshop environment and respite services),  Affordable housing (150,000 to 200,000 range), tax liability, fishing, and access to cultural events (concerts, plays, orchestras, ect.) Before you buy.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been offered an early retirement incentive that will give me 94% of my current salary.  I considering taking it an moving to the coastal gulf area.  I’m seeking comments about communities in the gulf area. The primary concerns I have are: availability of part time work, community services for the handicapped (I have a 21 y.o. son with autism.  He will need a sheltered workshop environment and respite services),  Affordable housing (150,000 to 200,000 range), tax liability, fishing, and access to cultural events (concerts, plays, orchestras, ect.) Before you buy.

Thanks for the response!  I think I’m going to look at FLA. panhandle and possibly TX.  I know there is good fishing in the northern gulf and I think my 22′ starcraft will handle the gulf waters on fairly clam days.  When I think about it either of these states could possibly be at least on par with Kentucky as far as community living and services. Although KY has come a long way in the last 20 years.  Here I am just limited to lakes and rivers and streams for fishing and boating. I would probably see more of my family in FLA. than I do now.  They would see the move as a relative in FLA. to stay with on vacation! Before you buy.

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Check out the Punta-Gorda, Port Charlotte FL area. I’m nearly ready to sign on a five-year old home on the water with two slips, 1800 ft.2 of living area, two car garage, new A/C. $119,900. Places on close to professionals such as Doctor’s Hospital, etc. I cannot stand the cold any longer. David At least we fly to Orlando! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have been offered an early retirement incentive that will give me 94% of my current salary.  I considering taking it an moving to the coastal gulf area.  I’m seeking comments about communities in the gulf area. The primary concerns I have are: availability of part time work, community services for the handicapped (I have a 21 y.o. son with autism.  He will need a sheltered workshop environment and respite services),  Affordable housing (150,000 to 200,000 range), tax liability, fishing, and access to cultural events (concerts, plays, orchestras, ect.) Before you buy.

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I’d look long and hard at the Houston TX / Clear Lake, TX area….. Lots of boating/fishing most all year….. 525 square mile Galveston Bay!…. Fourth

Just watch the precise details of where you choose to live.  Galveston’s the scene of one of the earliest attempts in this country at building too close to the water, and the city’s paid for it, in terms of wreckage and lost property value.  I’m not singling out Galveston alone, though.  Grab a copy of a book called "Against the Tide" before you choose a community near the sea.  It might save you a few bucks, or a house or two.  Perhaps more than anyone, I’d like to have breakfast with the ocean within view of my back window, but this book was pretty sobering.  It also mentions places where they’ve stopped trying to trying to stop an unstoppable force, and have taken a sensible approach to community planning. Doug

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Mississppi and Alabama are about as backwards as one can get,

Odd statement there, Harry.  I went to FedStats and compared Alabama quickly to Maryland.  A larger percentage of Alabamians own their own home, Alabama has a much lower violent crime rate.  (Maryland was 6th in the nation, Alabama 21st, as of 1996), Alabama appears to be more industrialized, from a comparison of non-farm employment numbers, and Alabama has much higher enrollment numbers for both elemetary/secondary education, and full-time college students. Median income is less in Alabama, however.  And teenage pregnancy is much higher.  There are less doctors per 100,000, and quite a few more motor vehicle fatalities. Seems like they both have their pros and cons.  Of course, some people will allow bigotry to colour their judgement, rather than facts.  At least when you make  blanket statements about Bayliners, you can defend your position.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mississppi and Alabama are about as backwards as one can get, Odd statement there, Harry.  I went to FedStats and compared Alabama quickly to Maryland.  A larger percentage of Alabamians own their own home, Alabama has a much lower violent crime rate.  (Maryland was 6th in the nation, Alabama 21st, as of 1996), Alabama appears to be more industrialized, from a comparison of non-farm employment numbers, and Alabama has much higher enrollment numbers for both elemetary/secondary education, and full-time college students. Median income is less in Alabama, however.  And teenage pregnancy is much higher.  There are less doctors per 100,000, and quite a few more motor vehicle fatalities. Seems like they both have their pros and cons.  Of course, some people will allow bigotry to colour their judgement, rather than facts.  At least when you make  blanket statements about Bayliners, you can defend your position.

If you’re read the original poster’s statement, he was looking for a state along the Gulf in which there would be high-quality social services for his challenged son. He didn’t indicate whether he needed public or private services. In either case, Alabama and Mississippi are among the most backwards of states in providing those sorts of services to residents in need. I’ll be delighted to engage in a discussion with you over the provision of social services, but this isn’t the place for it. — Harry Krause I’ve been seduced by the chocolate side of the force.

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I have been offered an early retirement incentive that will give me 94% of my current salary.  I considering taking it an moving to the coastal gulf area.  I’m seeking comments about communities in the gulf area. The primary concerns I have are: availability of part time work, community services for the handicapped (I have a 21 y.o. son with autism.  He will need a sheltered workshop environment and respite services),  Affordable housing (150,000 to 200,000 range), tax liability, fishing, and access to cultural events (concerts, plays, orchestras, ect.) Before you buy.

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I have been offered an early retirement incentive that will give me 94% of my current salary.  I considering taking it an moving to the coastal gulf area.  I’m seeking comments about communities in the gulf area. The primary concerns I have are: availability of part time work, community services for the handicapped (I have a 21 y.o. son with autism.  He will need a sheltered workshop environment and respite services),  Affordable housing (150,000 to 200,000 range), tax liability, fishing, and access to cultural events (concerts, plays, orchestras, ect.) Before you buy.

I fear you will not find the quality social services you need for your son in the Gulf area. Provision of decent social services is way down on the priority list of these states, and good places are hard to find in the public and private sectors. There’s next to nothing in Mississipi and Alabama, and modest services available in some parts of Louisiana through Catholic social service agencies. You might consider Florida, which does a little better in the social service area, but you better pick your places carefully. I’d again put Florida at the top of your list for about everything else. Mississppi and Alabama are about as backwards as one can get, and Texas is a pretty hard state, too. Florida and parts of Louisiana. — Harry Krause A Florid Flock of Forty Flatulent Flamingos.

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I will be fishing Shasta Lake in California the last week in April from a boat, float tube and shore.  What fly patterns should I use for this lake and this time of year ? TIA, Bob

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Ask the boys at:  http://www.theflyshop.com/ in Redding, CA…this is right up their alley…… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I will be fishing Shasta Lake in California the last week in April from a boat, float tube and shore.  What fly patterns should I use for this lake and this time of year ? TIA, Bob

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I will be fishing Shasta Lake in California the last week in April from a boat, float tube and shore.  What fly patterns should I use for this lake and this time of year ? TIA, Bob

Hi Bob, That is a great time for bass and trout. There are thread fin shad in the lake that can be anywhere from 1/2" to 2" long that all the fish feed upon. The fish are all near the surface in the fall, winter and spring so fly fishing will be great. Hal Janssen developed a mylar shad imitation many years ago that is one of the standard patterns in most CA valley reservoirs. Another fly is a #6/8 brown woolly bugger for an attractor pattern for bass. I would have a floater if you find them ‘busting’ on top(most of that in the fall). Then I would have a full sinking line to get down about 10 feet. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY www.kiene.com

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I am headed to Captiva Island March 19-26. I am planning to fish till I drop! I need info about where to get maps (ahead of time), where to fish the surf, the grasses, and the mangroves. What would be runnning this time of year? Any chance for Tarpon? I am planning to rent a boat, wade,  or hire a guide for a day. I have some light salt water spinning tackle but my fly rod is too light for salt and my fly reel is designed for fresh water. I am staying a South Seas Plantation and I have access to a car.  Any info about the area will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mike St. Louis, Mo.

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Mike, 941-624-2923 (Fly Fishing).  Both work the Boca Grande/Port Charlotte area and will arrange to meet you at a place of your choice (They bring the boat to you).  Snook, trout, redfish, grouper are for sure and both these guys know were there are some year around Tarpon in the area.  We fished them in November with Dan. Paul Phillips Director of Operations Fintastic Fish Mounts http://www.fintastic.com take off the 1 for E-mail – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am headed to Captiva Island March 19-26. I am planning to fish till I drop! I need info about where to get maps (ahead of time), where to fish the surf, the grasses, and the mangroves. What would be runnning this time of year? Any chance for Tarpon? I am planning to rent a boat, wade,  or hire a guide for a day. I have some light salt water spinning tackle but my fly rod is too light for salt and my fly reel is designed for fresh water. I am staying a South Seas Plantation and I have access to a car.  Any info about the area will be greatly appreciated. Thanks Mike St. Louis, Mo.

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Happy Holidays!!! How about a place you LIKE to fish? J

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Happy Holidays!!! How about a place you LIKE to fish? J

befuddled. TimW

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Live in Homestead Florida, love to fish the back country of the Everglades, Florida Bay, Biscayne Bay And Upper Keys. Temp is 76 degrees this afternoon, slight breeze great fishing weather. Wishing all of you a great holiday. George Allen – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Happy Holidays!!! How about a place you LIKE to fish? J

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Idaho by far is the worst place in the world for flyfishing. For one thing the fish are all about four inches long and they almost never hit a fly. Mostly whitefish and carp. The only thing they will hit is a piece of Green Giant Corn on an #4 egg hook. Even if you do manage to get one of the sluggish bastards to bite, when they feel the hook they just roll over and swim to you. The water is always murky and of questionable quality.  All you will find is two (the Snakebite & Never-See-A-Salmon Rivers) scummy little drainage ditches next to the freeway. Mostly polluted to the point you can