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"Gary, but as this is my first rod I have no idea.
….then, that rod is anything you want it to be……
says… *** post for FREE via your newsreader at post.newsfeed.com *** Hi, I’m new to fly fishing and just purchased a Fenwick Highlander HLF906 9′ 6 weight in Australia. I checked Fenwick’s site but this rod isn’t mentioned. I’ve been told that it is a medium action rod, but as this is my first rod I have no idea. Any comments would be appreciated.
Hi Gary, I have an HighLander in an #8 for fishing saltwater and like its very firm action. Impressed enough with the action (the hardware is a littly chintzy on the #8) to find out if they had smaller sizes especially a #4. Where did you score your #6? Sorry I can’t comment on the action of the lower weights, haven’t seen one yet. Steve
"Gary, but as this is my first rod I have no idea. ….then, that rod is anything you want it to be……
Wow. So deep (really deep), so fast. — TL, Tim I’d want mine to be a Hardy 7′9" 4wt.
"Gary, but as this is my first rod I have no idea. ….then, that rod is anything you want it to be…… Wow. So deep (really deep), so fast. — TL, Tim I’d want mine to be a Hardy 7′9" 4wt.
I wanted mine to be about 14 inches and praised by all women, but all I got was a broken Popcicle stick. Op
"Gary, but as this is my first rod I have no idea. ….then, that rod is anything you want it to be……
You write good words, John. You write words to live by. "The moving finger writes; and, having writ, moves Wolfgang hey, why’s everybody pointing at ME?! :(
You write good words, John. You write words to live by. "The moving finger writes; and, having writ, moves
I’ve been sitting on variations on _that_ for days and you go and waste it in this thread! 
Steve (I did wonder just _who_ would crack first 
You write good words, John. You write words to live by. "The moving finger writes; and, having writ, moves I’ve been sitting on variations on _that_ for days and you go and waste it in this thread!
Ya takes yer opportunities where ya finds ‘em. Steve (I did wonder just _who_ would crack first
O.K., I’m easy. :) Wolfgang
O.K., I’m easy. :)
Naw, just cheap…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Gary, but as this is my first rod I have no idea. ….then, that rod is anything you want it to be…… Wow. So deep (really deep), so fast. — TL, Tim I’d want mine to be a Hardy 7′9" 4wt. I wanted mine to be about 14 inches and praised by all women,
She, glad… but all I got was a broken Popcicle stick.
Wee, bad Op
Not e-gad? Signed, Daysed and cunfoosed
says… Hi, I’m new to fly fishing and just purchased a Fenwick Highlander HLF906 9′ 6 weight in Australia. I checked Fenwick’s site but this rod isn’t mentioned. I’ve been told that it is a medium action rod, but as this is my first rod I have no idea. Any comments would be appreciated.
Gary, While out looking for a spare SW outfit this morning I came across a 6wt in a shop I rarely visit. Didn’t cast it but felt good in the hand – fast action by the feel, single foot guides of sufficient size and a half-decent looking reel seat (better than the 8wt). You could do a lot lot worse for the $s. Steve (who has another $50 worth of tying materials for his trouble and no spare outfit … Next Shop – Lilydale
Last night I ate some typical, hard tasteless tomatoes I had gotten from a roundside stand, in hopes that they would be good. I had read, some time ago, about a strain of tomatoes that were developed that would be ripe, juicy and tasty while still being firm enough to ship. Anyone heard anything about what happened with this. Willi
what an infatile post! don’t you people give a shit about fishing? what knot do you use when you tie a fly to the end of your little bitty line that is tied to your great big line that goes on your reel that is screwed on to your pole? and, most importantly, why do you hate america? tomatoes are red. red is the color of communism. you are a communist because you like tomatoes. anthony wayne harrison the third. Aren’t tomatoes really orange and not red? Just like blueberries are really purple. There is no blue food. Perhaps the communists are keeping all the blue food from us.
There is no blue food.
yeah, well that’s what *you* think—i don’t guess you’ve ever eaten a smurf, then! Perhaps the communists are keeping all the blue food from us.
i wouldn’t doubt it.. smurfs are damn good, served n’awleens style. richard has the recipe. wayno
There is no blue food. yeah, well that’s what *you* think—i don’t guess you’ve ever eaten a smurf, then! Perhaps the communists are keeping all the blue food from us. i wouldn’t doubt it.. smurfs are damn good, served n’awleens style. richard has the recipe.
Sure do…first, you get some carpet tacks and caulk…. HTH, really I do… R – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -wayno
yeah, well that’s what *you* think—i don’t guess you’ve ever eaten a smurf, then! wayno
Really kinky. — Frank Reid Reverse email to reply.
yeah, well that’s what *you* think—i don’t guess you’ve ever eaten a smurf, then! wayno Really kinky.
You don’t know the half of it, Frank. Papa Smurf likes to watch. Tim
yeah, well that’s what *you* think—i don’t guess you’ve ever eaten a smurf, then! wayno Really kinky.
You don’t know the half of it, Frank. Papa Smurf likes to watch. Tim Did he get any color glossy photos with circles and arrows?
if it’s the genetically-engineered t’maters, yeah…i invested in that venture and the stock promptly went belly-up…died on the vine, so to speak. gov’t regs and consumer skepticism slowed it down… jeff (natural born stock killer)
Damned semantics again! We been eatin genetically engineered maties and taties for a long long time……been feedin ‘em to our genetically engineered wolves too, for that matter. Wolfgang ubermensch sans portfolio
There is no blue food. yeah, well that’s what *you* think—i don’t guess you’ve ever eaten a smurf, then!
Uhh… eeewww. Though this probably falls under the category of "more than you wanted to know", for the edification of the group, I’ll impart this tidbit of disgusting knowledge. Most rv’s have some sort of solid waste disposal system on board, be it a built in toilet or porta potti. These are typically deoderized and sanitized by the use of a concentrated blue liquid in the holding tank. The contents of said tanks then, due to the strong color influence of this chemical, are colloquially referred to as "smurf juice". HTH, Joe F.
what an infatile post! don’t you people give a shit about fishing? what knot do you use when you tie a fly to the end of your little bitty line that is tied to your great big line that goes on your reel that is screwed on to your pole? and, most importantly, why do you hate america? tomatoes are red. red is the color of communism. you are a communist because you like tomatoes. anthony wayne harrison the third.
I’ll do my best to get you a quart of that corn likker, as soon a possible good buddy! Op
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last night I ate some typical, hard tasteless tomatoes I had gotten from a roundside stand, in hopes that they would be good. I had read, some time ago, about a strain of tomatoes that were developed that would be ripe, juicy and tasty while still being firm enough to ship. Anyone heard anything about what happened with this. You’re probably thinking of the genetically engineered FLAVR SAVR tomatoes: http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~lrd/biotech.html That’s the one.
Umm, don’t these fall under the heading of ‘bioengineered foods’ that people want to pass laws to protect themselves from, are boycotting McDonalds in far eastern countries over, and Mugabe just tossed 50,000 tons of relief food out of Zimbabwe because it wasn’t specified to not contain? riverman
if it’s the genetically-engineered t’maters, yeah…i invested in that venture and the stock promptly went belly-up…died on the vine, so to speak. gov’t regs and consumer skepticism slowed it down…
That explains why I haven’t seem them. Willi
Last night I ate some typical, hard tasteless tomatoes I had gotten from a roundside stand, in hopes that they would be good. I had read, some time ago, about a strain of tomatoes that were developed that would be ripe, juicy and tasty while still being firm enough to ship. Anyone heard anything about what happened with this. You’re probably thinking of the genetically engineered FLAVR SAVR tomatoes: http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~lrd/biotech.html
That’s the one. Willi
Last night I ate some typical, hard tasteless tomatoes I had gotten from a roundside stand, in hopes that they would be good. I had read, some time ago, about a strain of tomatoes that were developed that would be ripe, juicy and tasty while still being firm enough to ship. Anyone heard anything about what happened with this. Willi
what an infatile post! don’t you people give a shit about fishing? what knot do you use when you tie a fly to the end of your little bitty line that is tied to your great big line that goes on your reel that is screwed on to your pole? and, most importantly, why do you hate america? tomatoes are red. red is the color of communism. you are a communist because you like tomatoes. anthony wayne harrison the third.
if it’s the genetically-engineered t’maters, yeah…i invested in that venture and the stock promptly went belly-up…died on the vine, so to speak. gov’t regs and consumer skepticism slowed it down… jeff (natural born stock killer) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Last night I ate some typical, hard tasteless tomatoes I had gotten from a roundside stand, in hopes that they would be good. I had read, some time ago, about a strain of tomatoes that were developed that would be ripe, juicy and tasty while still being firm enough to ship. Anyone heard anything about what happened with this. Willi
Last night I ate some typical, hard tasteless tomatoes I had gotten from a roundside stand, in hopes that they would be good. I had read, some time ago, about a strain of tomatoes that were developed that would be ripe, juicy and tasty while still being firm enough to ship. Anyone heard anything about what happened with this. Willi
Perhaps these taste sharper? http://www.artsnflies.com/pages/clousers23.shtml TL MC
Last night I ate some typical, hard tasteless tomatoes I had gotten from a roundside stand, in hopes that they would be good. I had read, some time ago, about a strain of tomatoes that were developed that would be ripe, juicy and tasty while still being firm enough to ship. Anyone heard anything about what happened with this.
You’re probably thinking of the genetically engineered FLAVR SAVR tomatoes: http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/~lrd/biotech.html — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/
Last night I ate some typical, hard tasteless tomatoes I had gotten from a roundside stand, in hopes that they would be good. I had read, some time ago, about a strain of tomatoes that were developed that would be ripe, juicy and tasty while still being firm enough to ship. Anyone heard anything about what happened with this. Willi
Last night I ate some typical, hard tasteless tomatoes I had gotten from a roundside stand, in hopes that they would be good. I had read, some time ago, about a strain of tomatoes that were developed that would be ripe, juicy and tasty while still being firm enough to ship. Anyone heard anything about what happened with this. Willi
Not too sure if it’s the same thing, but I’ve been getting "vine ripened" tomatoes still on the vine. They say that they are "organically grown", but they do taste good, and arrive at the store in a less than ripe condition.
Hi, I haven’t received my flies yet Paul EARTHLINK SUCK
You were expecting the flies by e-mail? I doubt it’s Earthlink’s problem. BTW – current plan is to be in NY Friday after all… Fingers crossed and gear already in the car.
I haven’t received my flies yet
Mine parcel arrived today. I spent quite some time going over all of the flies. The flies already mentioned, as well as the rest, are indeed nice flies. One in particular really jumped out at me. The woven soft hackle Isonychia nymph tied by Glenn Tippy really caught my eye. I guess I kind of have a fascination with woven bodied flies but have limited myself to larger patterns in the past. I keep fly swap flies for examples in my own endeavors and I plan on replicating this one after the conclave when I have some time to get out and shop for the materials. I am also thinking about some modifications for different species, etc. Oustanding tie Glenn and thanks for the inspiration. — Warren Findley Remove (nospamZZ) to respond via email http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt/
Got home from vacation in NH today and found the package on top of the inevitable pile of junk mail. Made taking the kayaks and canoe off the car, and all the other crap of unpacking, fly. Thanks to all. Glenn Tippy GKT
Joe, I also received my flies in great shape a couple of weeks ago. Sorry for the long delay in letting you know. I have been busy at work and in fishing so I have been away from the group for the last two weeks. Thanks guys for the great ties! I hope mine met with everyone’s expectations if not let me know and I will tie you a better one and send it off to you. Later Ed Bleck AKA Didymus
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jay Peck is a friend of mine, a non – roffian, and I invited him to join the swap. He is from the Rochester area, and works as a guide at a fly shop there. You must be, too, as is evidenced by your "Caledonia scud", no doubt intended for Spring Creek. Peter Collin Got the package of flies yesterday. Looked them all over and everybody did a great job! I am going fishing next week for 4 days and will be using them. I am definitely going to try out that "Mink Coat" where I know it should work. Great job everybody Rob Hey Joe- Flies received safe and sound. Good job. Kudos to the swapmeister, and the flies are great as well. Who is Jay Peck, by the way (tied a burnt wing mayfly)? Is he from the Rochester area? Scott Aha! It is the same Jay– a talented guy. I know he’s a fine tyer, and pretty well represented in pattern books dedicated to the Northeast. He works out of Coleman’s (of Tony Germuga fame ) He’s a very talented guide and salmon and steelhead fisherman. I think Rick Kustich also uses some of his photographs in his books. Peter–where do you fish? Lets get together sometime when you’re in the area. You’re dead-on about my poor excuse for a scud. I would have tied them better if I knew Jay was going to see it!! My understanding is that it was designed to hide the lead for way back when Spring Creek was no-lead. Another historical fly from that era was the "Nickel Nymph", which was tied on a huge hook. I think that pattern called for Condor!! I would love to get my hands on one of those flies. Scott
How did you get those? Those were extra flies I tied for the swap meister. I put them in an envelope that said swap meister on the front.
I’m back at the hotel & have only had one beer so far, so here’s the simple explanation: I had everybody tie 25 flies so they would get one of their own back in the fly swap set. That way, I didn’t have to keep track of who’s set was who’s. However, a few guys miscounted & only sent 24. For those guys, I put their name on the plastic cup, & skipped them when sorting their respective sets of flies. They didn’t get one of their own, but everybody else did. Simple so far, eh? (If anyone didn’t get one of their own flies in the swap, that’s why.) Well, yours (Dave) was one of the first sets I sorted, & because you labelled those two little envelopes, I mentally assigned the first two cups to Paul Goodwin (photos) & myself (swapmeister). I put the correct envelopes into the correct cups. Then I came across the first set of 24 (instead of 25) & forgetting what I’d done earlier, I must have taped Peter’s name on the second cup since he was the first "swapper-specific" set. Later on, to my surprise, it turned out that I too had miscounted (only 24) & had to put my name on a cup to skip as well. Unfortunately, it was not the same cup I’d put your "Swapmeister" envelope in. Told you it was a simple explanation. :-) Joe F. DDFS alum.
Would you like them back? I’d hate to cheat the swapmeister! Or is this like the ball games, where you get to keep the ones that go into the stands? Pete
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, both were in the little manila envelope that said "swapmeister". But I didn’t know Joe was doing three patterns. Maybe they were strays that somehow fell into the pile. I’ll consider them a bonus. Oops. I didn’t tie those (& from my hotel room here I can’t remember who did), but that swapper identified one envelope for the photos & one for me personally. In my haste, I screwed up & sent that one to you (I remember how, but it’s too complicated before breakfast <g). I pretty much packed the boxes, mailed ‘em, & headed out of town, so I wouldn’t have realized my mistake for a week or so. If that’s my only screw up, I’ll be happy. Joe F. DDFSwapmeister (who figured out the internet connection in his hotel room)
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jay Peck is a friend of mine, a non – roffian, and I invited him to join the swap. He is from the Rochester area, and works as a guide at a fly shop there. You must be, too, as is evidenced by your "Caledonia scud", no doubt intended for Spring Creek. Peter Collin Got the package of flies yesterday. Looked them all over and everybody did a great job! I am going fishing next week for 4 days and will be using them. I am definitely going to try out that "Mink Coat" where I know it should work. Great job everybody Rob Hey Joe- Flies received safe and sound. Good job. Kudos to the swapmeister, and the flies are great as well. Who is Jay Peck, by the way (tied a burnt wing mayfly)? Is he from the Rochester area? Scott
Aha! It is the same Jay– a talented guy. I know he’s a fine tyer, and pretty well represented in pattern books dedicated to the Northeast. He works out of Coleman’s (of Tony Germuga fame ) He’s a very talented guide and salmon and steelhead fisherman. I think Rick Kustich also uses some of his photographs in his books. Peter–where do you fish? Lets get together sometime when you’re in the area. You’re dead-on about my poor excuse for a scud. I would have tied them better if I knew Jay was going to see it!! My understanding is that it was designed to hide the lead for way back when Spring Creek was no-lead. Another historical fly from that era was the "Nickel Nymph", which was tied on a huge hook. I think that pattern called for Condor!! I would love to get my hands on one of those flies. Scott
Jay Peck is a friend of mine, a non – roffian, and I invited him to join the swap. He is from the Rochester area, and works as a guide at a fly shop there. You must be, too, as is evidenced by your "Caledonia scud", no doubt intended for Spring Creek. Peter Collin
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Got the package of flies yesterday. Looked them all over and everybody did a great job! I am going fishing next week for 4 days and will be using them. I am definitely going to try out that "Mink Coat" where I know it should work. Great job everybody Rob Hey Joe- Flies received safe and sound. Good job. Kudos to the swapmeister, and the flies are great as well. Who is Jay Peck, by the way (tied a burnt wing mayfly)? Is he from the Rochester area? Scott
Got the package of flies yesterday. Looked them all over and everybody did a great job! I am going fishing next week for 4 days and will be using them. I am definitely going to try out that "Mink Coat" where I know it should work. Great job everybody Rob
Hey Joe- Flies received safe and sound. Good job. Kudos to the swapmeister, and the flies are great as well. Who is Jay Peck, by the way (tied a burnt wing mayfly)? Is he from the Rochester area? Scott
How did you get those? Those were extra flies I tied for the swap meister. I put them in an envelope that said swap meister on the front. Any ways the red one is an electric leach and the streamer is called cutt bait. The streamer is actually a saltwater pattern I use for sea run cutts and salmon but I figure there are green back minnows anywhere in the world. Later Dave —
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There were two flies I go with no tag on them. One was a red woolybuggery sort of thing and the other was a chartreuse streamer. Can anybody claim these? Peter Collin
Well, both were in the little manila envelope that said "swapmeister". But I didn’t know Joe was doing three patterns. Maybe they were strays that somehow fell into the pile. I’ll consider them a bonus.
Oops. I didn’t tie those (& from my hotel room here I can’t remember who did), but that swapper identified one envelope for the photos & one for me personally. In my haste, I screwed up & sent that one to you (I remember how, but it’s too complicated before breakfast <g). I pretty much packed the boxes, mailed ‘em, & headed out of town, so I wouldn’t have realized my mistake for a week or so. If that’s my only screw up, I’ll be happy. Joe F. DDFSwapmeister (who figured out the internet connection in his hotel room)
Well, both were in the little manila envelope that said "swapmeister". But I didn’t know Joe was doing three patterns. Maybe they were strays that somehow fell into the pile. I’ll consider them a bonus. Peter Collin
Got the package of flies yesterday. Looked them all over and everybody did a great job! I am going fishing next week for 4 days and will be using them. I am definitely going to try out that "Mink Coat" where I know it should work. Great job everybody Rob
I think my favorite was the Madame X. It was tied very expertly, and is the kind of floating attractor that works well on my local streams. Peter Collin
!! Definitely an inspiration to improve upon my skills for the next swap to come. tight lines to all…… Thom Adams – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Got the package of flies yesterday. Looked them all over and everybody did a great job! I am going fishing next week for 4 days and will be using them. I am definitely going to try out that "Mink Coat" where I know it should work. Great job everybody Rob
There were two flies I go with no tag on them. One was a red woolybuggery sort of thing and the other was a chartreuse streamer. Can anybody claim these? Peter Collin
There were two flies I go with no tag on them. One was a red woolybuggery sort of thing and the other was a chartreuse streamer. Can anybody claim these?
Hmmm, I don’t see those in my collection, so I’ll take a guess. Since there’s no red anything in my box it might be mine. Is it a pinkish orange foam body with a white comparadun style wing and a bushy brown tail? If so, it’s my Orange Woof bluegill fly (some of them had green rubber legs, some didn’t). The streamer might be Big Dale’s Foam Spider. Does it have rubber legs?
I could be wrong, but I have some of Big D’s foam spiders and I don’t believe they would be considered streamers. However, he could very well have tied a different type of foam spider pattern than I have, I guess? Op
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There were two flies I go with no tag on them. One was a red woolybuggery sort of thing and the other was a chartreuse streamer. Can anybody claim these? Hmmm, I don’t see those in my collection, so I’ll take a guess. Since there’s no red anything in my box it might be mine. Is it a pinkish orange foam body with a white comparadun style wing and a bushy brown tail? If so, it’s my Orange Woof bluegill fly (some of them had green rubber legs, some didn’t). The streamer might be Big Dale’s Foam Spider. Does it have rubber legs?
I could be wrong, but I have some of Big D’s foam spiders and I don’t believe they would be considered streamers. However, he could very well have tied a different type of foam spider pattern than I have, I guess? Op
I wouldn’t call it a streamer but it has a marabou tail and is the right color. Nothing else really looks like a streamer except for Joe’s Madame X (bullethead deer hair) and Wayne’s Mink Coat. I’m hoping we can get Paul Goodwin to do pics next week which will end all speculation. It’s in your court Paul, the database is set up. –Stan
Hi, I haven’t received my flies yet Paul EARTHLINK SUCK
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I could be wrong, but I have some of Big D’s foam spiders and I don’t believe they would be considered streamers. However, he could very well have tied a different type of foam spider pattern than I have, I guess? Op I wouldn’t call it a streamer but it has a marabou tail and is the right color. Nothing else really looks like a streamer except for Joe’s Madame X (bullethead deer hair) and Wayne’s Mink Coat. I’m hoping we can get Paul Goodwin to do pics next week which will end all speculation. It’s in your court Paul, the database is set up. –Stan
Ernie, I think you forgot the most important thing! The FLIES!! Or do you plan on catching your own while fishing? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Over the years I have learned there are several things in addition to flies I want in my vest . If you are new to fly-fishing you can look them over for suggestions, or you may want to suggest things you don’t find on mine. 1. Crusher type water resistant hat. 2. Duct tape for patching waders 3. Fly Floatant. 4. Fly line cleaner 5. Forceps. 6. Hook sharpener. 7. Knot tier (Blood Knot Machine). 8. Leader straightener. 9. Leaders. 10. Mosquito repellant 11. Polarized glasses 12. Sinkers (wrap on) 13. Small 110 camera. 14. Small first aid kit. (with aspirin) 15. Small flashlight. 16. Spool of tippet material. 17. Stream thermometer 18. Strike indicators 19. Swiss pocket knife with scissors. 20. Tippet cutter with hook eye cleaner. 21. Toilet paper. 22. Waterproof pancho (lightweight).
– Doug Knight metalfab<atpacbell.net Junk e-mail, solicitation, sales, products and services gladly accepted at $500.00 per mailing and billed directly to your ISP.
Over the years I have learned there are several things in addition to flies I want in my vest . If you are new to fly-fishing you can look them over for suggestions, or you may want to suggest things you don’t find on mine.
EDITED VEST ITEMS BY A PRO! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – 1. Crusher type water resistant hat. (Wide Brimmed Western Hat) 3. Fly Floatant. Gehrke’s Gink 4. Fly line cleaner Gehrke’s PZ Fly Line Cleaner 5. Forceps. Not needed with Barbless Hooks 6. Hook sharpener. 8. Leader straightener. (PULL HARD then relax slowly) 9. Leaders. Hand tied of course. 10. Mosquito repellant (Famous Grouse) 11. Polarized glasses (Blue and Yellow) 12. Sinkers (wrap on) Gehrke’s XINK Wet Fly Dressing 13. Small 110 camera. Water Proof 14. Small first aid kit. (with aspirin) and a flask of booze 15. Small flashlight. (Water Proof) 16. Spool of tippet material. (Make this plural) 17. Stream thermometer (Only if you have a diary) 18. Strike indicators argggggggggggggggggggggggggh! 19. Swiss pocket knife with scissors. 20. Tippet cutter with hook eye cleaner. 21. Toilet paper. (Inside a Zip Lock Bag) 22. Waterproof pancho (lightweight).
23 A Box of Dry Flies 24 A box of Wet Flies 25 A box of Nymphs 26 A box of Streamers 27 A bottle of KNOT-PERFECT — Doug Knight metalfab<atpacbell.net Junk e-mail, solicitation, sales, products and services gladly accepted at $500.00 per mailing and billed directly to your ISP.
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and all thier relatives live up here in Nova Scotia – long live the Canadian Air Force ! To quote an angler whose name escapes me, "There isn’t a single blackfly in the Adirondacks – they’re all married with very large families!"
– Bill Curry Tight Lines Guide Service Lockeport, Nova Scotia, Canada Phone or Fax : 902-656-3329 http://www.tightlines.ns.ca
Hi I’m travelling to Schroon Lake for the third week of June: 20-27. I heard the blackfly season should be over by then. Can anyone help me confirm this, or should I bring a case of deet with me? Thanks, Henry
Yup – the black flies will be gone, but the mosquitos will just be starting.
To quote an angler whose name escapes me, "There isn’t a single blackfly in the Adirondacks – they’re all married with very large families!"
Hi I’m travelling to Schroon Lake for the third week of June: 20-27. I heard the blackfly season should be over by then. Can anyone help me confirm this, or should I bring a case of deet with me? Thanks, Henry
Henry, You’ll be missing the black flies, but will hit the real beginning of the mosquitos, the no-see-ums, and the height of the deerflies. Leave the DEET at home; it damages your liver and turns the no-see-ums and deerflies into mean drunks. A nice side-by-side 28-guage would be just right (#12 shot). Or go naked and lose ten pounds a day. Bob Scott
Thanks everybody for all your help (I think) -h – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m travelling to Schroon Lake for the third week of June: 20-27. I heard the blackfly season should be over by then. Can anyone help me confirm this, or should I bring a case of deet with me? Mosquitoes follow blackfly, and an important difference is that mosquitoes bite you under canvas (and I’ve never understood why blackfly do not.) The main thing is that mosquito attacks are worst in the open at sunset, when the fishing is often best: to concentrate on the fishing, most anglers need some sort of fly repellant. — | Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs, | | Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734 |
I’m travelling to Schroon Lake for the third week of June: 20-27. I heard the blackfly season should be over by then. Can anyone help me confirm this, or should I bring a case of deet with me?
Mosquitoes follow blackfly, and an important difference is that mosquitoes bite you under canvas (and I’ve never understood why blackfly do not.) The main thing is that mosquito attacks are worst in the open at sunset, when the fishing is often best: to concentrate on the fishing, most anglers need some sort of fly repellant. — | Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs, | | Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734 |
I would like to find a canoe that will work as a boat to flyfish out of (small lake fishing). This means I HAVE TO be able to stand up in it. I also have to be able to carry it on top of my Jeep Wrangler. The canoe that has caught my eye is the Old Town Discovery 133k. I understand that this canoe has been around for some time so I should be able to pick up a used one for a reasonable price. I also want it to be able to be fit with oar locks. What price should I pay for this canoe used? new? What other canoes might suit my purpose better? I am also considering building some type of outriggers for it for added stability and a platform to fish/cast from. Any advice on this? Thank you, Paul P.S. Besided the classifieds, which I’m watching closely, does anyone have an idea of a good place to find a used canoe. I live about 2 hours north of Seattle.
I would like to find a canoe that will work as a boat to flyfish out of (small lake fishing). This means I HAVE TO be able to stand up in it. snip< Thank you, Paul
Dear Paul; I don’t mean to pick, no not at all, but to be fair to you and to the potential craft, I would recommend that if you need< to stand up to cast, you should work on your casting technique. I won’t go into it here, but you really should be able to cast sitting down, yeah, you can’t cast as far< sitting down, but you can sure cast safer.
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I would like to find a canoe that will work as a boat to flyfish out of (small lake fishing). This means I HAVE TO be able to stand up in it. snip< Thank you, Paul
Paul, I think it’s Mad River, but they used to make several boats ( the winooski comes ito my foggy mind here) that were "really wide as hell". I think they had a 15 foot boat that was like 60" wide at midship. It was really stable. But then again, it was really interesting to paddle. I sat in the middle, and leaned it over like Mason would have done, and it spun on a dime, but with 4 feet of boat sticking up in the air, it really caught the wind too. You know, this might actually be an application for one of those rigs that have an extended thwart that sticks out either side of your boat, and has a flotation bag on each end. Like a Hawaiian boat, only you have two. You could dance a jig on one of those things. Still, If I can stand up in a dragonfly and fish, you can stand up in one of those things. I stand up sometimes in my Blue hole when fishing, and with a ton of gear in the thing, it’s really stable. I dunno, shouldn’t be a problem whatever you decide to do. Good Luck. Dale http://www.inlink.com/~dailu/ http://www.inlink.com/~dailu/intergear.html
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would like to find a canoe that will work as a boat to flyfish out of (small lake fishing). This means I HAVE TO be able to stand up in it. snip< Thank you, Paul Dear Paul; I don’t mean to pick, no not at all, but to be fair to you and to the potential craft, I would recommend that if you need< to stand up to cast, you should work on your casting technique. I won’t go into it here, but you really should be able to cast sitting down, yeah, you can’t cast as far< sitting down, but you can sure cast safer. chipper
Thank you for being helpful and posting a follow up to my question, however I am still looking for an answer. I know that my post is only a day old, but I don’t want Chipper’s interjection to be viewed as a conclussion to my question. Please refer to the original post and present your answers according to it. In case the original post wasn’t clear I’m interested in a canoe that is stable enough so I can stand up in it while flycasting. This is the main requirement for the canoe. Meanwhile I will ponder Chipper’s recommendation. Thank you Paul
Standing in a canoe is something that only takes practice and is not particularly dangerous – in spite of what the Red Cross canoeing course has said for many years. I’ll be teaching some local scouts the skill later this summer, and hope to have canoe poling officially recognised by the BSA in the next few years. Here in Maine, standing and poling a canoe is common practice. The rivers get pretty low late in the year, and it’s just plain fun. I don’t have any specific canoe recommendation, because any shallow arch, flat bottom or shallow V hull will work. I have stood in and fly casted in dozens of canoes, including Discovery’s 169 and 174, Grummans, Old Town 15-20 foot wood canvas canoes in many models, EM White Guide, Miller (from NB, Canada), Chestnut Prospector, Jerry Stelmok’s Willow (a tender 13 foot W/C canoe) and more. It’s a wonderful way to reduce the glare off the water and with practice is not at all dangerous. What you might consider is getting into a canoe with a setting pole (12 foot or so) and just pushing yourself around off the bottom for a while. If you can get some poling instruction (there’s a class in Maine in June) that’s even better. The trick is to feel comfortable standing in the canoe, even if the canoe moves around under you. Once you have this down – you can walk around in many canoes and be perfectly safe. My 20 foot Old Town Guide has been named "The Enterprise" by my wife, because she’s as big and stable as an aircraft carrier (not my wife, teh canoe). My kids regularly change ends by standing up and walking one end to the other – stepping or crawling over the gear pile in the middle. -Tim — Tim Hewitt – Webmaster Wooden Canoe Heritage Association, Ltd http://www.wcha.org
I would like to find a canoe that will work as a boat to flyfish out of (small lake fishing). This means I HAVE TO be able to stand up in it.
Mike: I too flyfish out of my canoe quite a bit and like to stand a little. Can’t afford a strictly FF boat though so I just settle for my Mad River Explorer. I think you should be aware that at least some canoe manufacturers (such as Mad River) are honest and don’t try to pretend that every boat they make is suitable for every activity under the sun, but then use differing pictures or euphemisms to hint to you what it’s best use is. Thus, Mad River talks in terms of boats with good "initial stability" and those with good "secondary" stability. Get one of their catalogs and 802-496-3127). I believe this distinction is a valid one. It seems to me there are two different styles canoe bottoms come in: flattish and deep vee. Of course there are all degrees of in-between. What you find in those towards the flattish end of the scale is that they feel very stable initially; i.e. you put some weight towards one side and the boat does not rock that way very much. The problem with these boats is that they are not very good for traveling far; they paddle like tubs, are susceptible to wind, etc., AND (a very important AND you will quickly grasp once in one), while they have such good "initial" stability once you put just a little too much weight towards one side, when they start to flip THEY REALLY GO. Suddenly. With little warning. Ass over elbows. On the other end of the spectrum the boats with deep vees tend to "feel" less stable. A little shift to the side and you feel it right away. BUT: you can continue putting weight towards the side and its a far more gradual thing than the flatter-bottomed boats. This is "secondary" stability. If you truly are willing to buy a boat that has just one use such as FF, you can go quite far to one end of the spectrum and feel very happy. I know that the Mad River "Winooski" is a very flat-bottomed, wide boat. Other mfg.s undoubtedly have models that are similar in approach. Mad River doubtlessly also has other boats that tend toward the flat-bottomed end of the spectrum. Again, their catalog is excellent in describing these things generally and specifically for each of the boats they sell. Hope this helps; please know that I am not shilling for Mad River here and have no interest in the company other than as a consumer. (Though I do think they are a great company; they have treated me fantastically as a consumer.) I just bought an Old Town "Pack" model canoe. A little solo 12 footer, for portaging into little trout lakes to fish up in Canada. If I had really wanted what you want I would have gone with the Winooski but I liked the weight of the Pack model (33 lbs.) and the price. Don’t know yet if its stable enough for your needs, and, of course, if you intend on fishing with more than one person in the thing the Pack is not the way to go. I would say this, while you may be strongly drawn to a very flat bottomed boat and may have the luxury of needing/wanting nothing with more versatility you might want to go to a retailer on a lake/stream and at least try out
Vinsel) writes: This brings up the question for the cane rod builders: what was the impregnating that was popular on many rods in the seventies – Orvis, Leonard, Powell… Was that a pressurized epoxy system? Why do so few makers do this today? I would expect that it takes large and expensive equipment and would also stiffen the action of the rod. Anyone with more info?
The impregnation system that Orvis used and still uses is a phenolic resin. Originally it was bakelite, in fact some of the rods from 1946 said "Bakelite Impregnated". It’s changed a little since then, but not much. Wes Jordan was the first rod maker to successfully apply impregnation to bamboo rods in 1946. It drove him nuts during World War II that Orvis could make impregnated bamboo ski poles for the ski troops for the war effort that were impervious to heat and moisture and yet could not produce a bamboo rod with predictable action with the same process. He finally figured out that by flaming the rod to remove most of the moisture content, building the rod completely and by cooking it at precisely controlled temperatures in the phenolic resin for a couple of days he could impregnate the rod with the resin and achieve predictable results. Then, to demonstrate that the impregnated rod was impervious to weather and for advertisement purposes, he would freeze a rod in a 50 lb. block of ice and then pour boiling water over the ice until the it melted away from the rod. In 1946 there were no varnishes that could withstand this treatment. If the impregnation process was improperly done it could make the rod heavy and "loggy". Properly done, the impregnation goes into the cane a few thousandths of an inch and replaces the residual moisuture usually found in the power fibers.The heat curing process (originally flamed, now done with a heat box) makes the rod stiffer and allows it to be impregnated with the resin. Without the heat curing process, there is too much moisture in the bamboo to impregnate the rod successfully. Impregnating the rod is an extra step and although it eliminates the varnishing process, it is more time consuming than varnishing and If you don’t control the heat of the phenolic resin precisely, you ruin the rod. Action of the rod is more dependant on the design of the rod not the impregnation of it. If you pick up an Orvis "Wes Jordan era" rod it will be almost mahogany in color from the flaming and faster in action than the rods currently produced. This is due in large part to the preference of the rod designer Wes Jordan. Howard Steare, who worked with Wes and took over rod production after Wes Jordan retired, preferred a higher moisture content in the bamboo which resulted in a slower action. Howard retired a couple of years ago and for the first time in many years Orvis is producing 3 new bamboo rods for 1997 with reportedly crisper and quicker actions. I’ll be curious to get them in my hands. You can find some more info on this at the Orvis web site (www.orvis.com) under the "timeline" part of the Orvis story section. You can jump right to it at the following url "http://www.alloutdoors.com/orvis/Story/Impregbamb.html" There is also a book out about Wes Jordan from Centennial Press that has a lot more info. Hope this helps, Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again. So what if they eat other fish? If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).
[stuff deleted] This brings up the question for the cane rod builders: what was the impregnating that was popular on many rods in the seventies – Orvis, Leonard, Powell… Was that a pressurized epoxy system? Why do so few makers do this today? Impregnating the rod is a way a few manufacturers finish their rods, but in general, impregnation slows down the action of a rod. The air spaces get filled with epoxy, adding to the weight, thus slowing down the action. There is a saying that Orvis makes their rods to last, not to cast.
Well, almost. I worked for Leonard in the late 70s. The Duracane impregnated rod blanks were made for Leonard to their specs in England. The stuff used was bakelite, if I remember correctly. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t epoxy. As for weight, the impregnated rods were pretty close to the weight of the varnished rods, they just didn’t have as complex tapers, as thin tips, or as fancy reelseats, although they did have silk wraps, very nice wood reelseats, and the same nickel- silver ferrules. I always sort of wished I had bought a Duracane 7′ 4 wt. since they cast beautifully. In fact, the entire Duracane line was very, very nice. As for impregnation, it only soaks in a few thousands of an inch, hardly enough to affect the action in any really meaningful way. As for Orvis, if you don’t like the way their rods cast, it’s because of the design, not because of the impregnating. Orvis rods have very slow tapers. This is because that’s how they want them. It would take a little more work to make a rod with a very thin tip, but in general, Orvis cane rods have slow actions because that’s how they were designed. Barry Smith
I don’t think epoxy varnish is correct. I am not familiar with epoxy varnish but in general epoxies are two-part systems that you mix, and when they solidify they are very difficult to remove. Most epoxies are clouded and weakened by UV light so I don’t think this is right for an overall coating, unless you were going to varnish over the epoxy (getting pretty thick by now…)
You are right, most epoxies are unsuitable for coating, although as coating for guide wraps they work fine. I think you want a marine-grade spar varnish, which would be phenolic or polyurethane based, with a UV inhibitor. That way you can remove it with alcohol and steel wool to restore every twenty years or so.
There are several ways to finish a cane rod. Tung oil, spar varnish, or polyurethane varnish can be used. Polyurethane is probably the most resistant to water, solvents, weather, etc., but the hardest to refinish if it ever becomes neccesary to do so. About the only way to remove polyurethane is to sand it off. This brings up the question for the cane rod builders: what was the impregnating that was popular on many rods in the seventies – Orvis, Leonard, Powell… Was that a pressurized epoxy system? Why do so few makers do this today? I would expect that it takes large and expensive equipment and would also stiffen the action of the rod. Anyone with more info?
Impregnating the rod is a way a few manufacturers finish their rods, but in general, impregnation slows down the action of a rod. The air spaces get filled with epoxy, adding to the weight, thus slowing down the action. There is a saying that Orvis makes their rods to last, not to cast. Darryl Hayashida
… you can improve the stick’s water resistance by a couple of thin coats of epoxy varnish…
I don’t think epoxy varnish is correct. I am not familiar with epoxy varnish but in general epoxies are two-part systems that you mix, and when they solidify they are very difficult to remove. Most epoxies are clouded and weakened by UV light so I don’t think this is right for an overall coating, unless you were going to varnish over the epoxy (getting pretty thick by now…) I think you want a marine-grade spar varnish, which would be phenolic or polyurethane based, with a UV inhibitor. That way you can remove it with alcohol and steel wool to restore every twenty years or so. This brings up the question for the cane rod builders: what was the impregnating that was popular on many rods in the seventies – Orvis, Leonard, Powell… Was that a pressurized epoxy system? Why do so few makers do this today? I would expect that it takes large and expensive equipment and would also stiffen the action of the rod. Anyone with more info? Mark Vinsel http://www.lanminds.com/local/vinnie/gallery.html
I found an old cane rod that hasn’t much care recently. One wrap is starting to loosen. What solution does one use on the wraps to hold them and what does one put on the cane to waterproof it? Thanks
I found an old cane rod that hasn’t much care recently. One wrap is starting to loosen. What solution does one use on the wraps to hold them and what does one put on the cane to waterproof it?
Don’t put adhesives on loose wrap. Carefully cut the old whipping off and redo it afresh. (If one has already loosened, another is going to soon, and every handy angler needs to know how to make a neat whipping. It’s not difficult.) If you know this is a good stick, you might as well refinish it throughout, whipping on new (rustproof) guides correctly spaced and sized. If you remove everything except ferrules and handle, you can improve the stick’s water resistance by a couple of thin coats of epoxy varnish, before you reattach guides (at least 2 weeks later, to be sure the varnish is totally dry.) — | Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs, | | Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734 |
Sorry about the previous post – I am trying to get used to posting through Netscape and I am making a lot of mistakes. My question is this : 1. When I cast, my flyline and leader go out fine, but my tippet often lands in jumbled mess. What might I be doing wrong? I am using a 6wt rod, DT6F line, a 9ft 5X leader, and 5X tippet (about 18 inches). I normally use size 14 or 16 nymphs and dry flies. Thanks in advance for any help!
1. When I cast, my flyline and leader go out fine, but my tippet often lands in jumbled mess. What might I be doing wrong? I am using a 6wt rod, DT6F line, a 9ft 5X leader, and 5X tippet (about 18 inches). I normally use size 14 or 16 nymphs and dry
Check that leader is straight before you cast, i.e. pull it through your fingers (or a small piece of rubber) until straight. Leader design should be 40% (of length) stiff butt, 20% floppy tippet, remainder stepping down (say 0.016" to 0.008"). If in doubt, buy famous-brand knotted leaders, e.g. Orvis. If you knot your own, you can customize fully. Excessive forward push on the casting stroke can cause fly to bounce back on loose loops of tippet (deliberately in some fishing situations.) — | Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs, | | Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734 |
Sorry about the previous post – I am trying to get used to posting through Netscape and I am making a lot of mistakes. My question is this : 1. When I cast, my flyline and leader go out fine, but my tippet often lands in jumbled mess. What might I be doing wrong? I am using a 6wt rod, DT6F line, a 9ft 5X leader, and 5X tippet (about 18 inches). I normally use size 14 or 16 nymphs and dry flies. Thanks in advance for any help!
Two thoughts Jeff: 1) Try using a heavier leader, some of the tapered variety are good. This will provide stiffness, which aids the turn over of your tippet. You can then add your tippet to the end of the leader. It might be a good idea to use a 5′ leader at first, they are easier to control, when you have mastered that then progress to the 9′ leaded. 2) With seeing you cast its difficult to offer advice but a common fault with many casting techniques is that the angler casts at the water rather than at eye level. If when you cast you aim at the water then the fly line, leader and tippet are not given sufficent time to turn over, resulting in your line landing in a heap on the water. If you cast aiming at the horizon or eye level this will give time for the turn over to be completed and your tackle to land in a straight line. I hope they might prove to be of some help for you. Tight lines Chris
You should really do your homework befor going to the devils river. Legally, your cannot step on the streambed due to mexican land grants. You might wan’t to check out the water temperatures as well. Jeff goodwin ** Ashley Laurent,Inc. ** Software Development ** Consulting ** * * * * 10,000 Research Blvd, Suite 128 * voice: 512-478-0776 * * Austin, Texas 78759 * fax : 512-478-0803 * * * * * Microsoft Solution Provider * Complete Systems Design/Development * * OS/2 Premier Developer * Workflow and Workgroup Solutions * * Novell Professional Developer * Industrial Appl./Device Drivers * – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m heading to Texas in late March to flyfish for smallmouth on Devil’s River. I’ve never been there before, nor have I done much fly-fishing for smallmouth. Can anyone recommend flies or provide any other useful advice? I was thinking of just tying some muddlers and wooly buggers, and maybe some ghosts. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Ashley: I live in south-central Texas and have fished the Devil’s on several occasions. Right now the river is going to be low because of the drought along the border. Generally speaking the best source of information is probably from Jim Kuper at The Tacklebox Outfitters in San Antonio, Tx. Jim is knowledgeable about floating the Devil’s from Baker’s Crossing to Lake Amistad. Contact Jim at (210) 821-5806. As I said, I’ve fished the Devil’s several times over the last 3 years. Because of the draught each year seems to get worse. Last summer I decided not to go back until the draught broke… I’m still waiting. DNW
I’ve heard Montauk State Park is located on the headwaters of the Current River and has access to trout flyfishing area. Looking for more info from someone who knows this area. I’m thinking of going there in May. Regards to all, Robert
Try: http://www.agron.missouri.edu/flyfishing/ John Nesselrode Shawnee, KS
You’re right. Montauk is the head of the current river, and offers considerable amount of trout water. But it’s going to be fairly crowded, even on the stretch of flies-only water. –
I’ve heard Montauk State Park is located on the headwaters of the Current River and has access to trout flyfishing area. Looking for more info from someone who knows this area. I’m thinking of going there in May. Regards to all, Robert
Go! The fishing in the park is mostly corn etc, yet there are some sections for flies only. Good if you want to go fishmarket fishing. Nice place. Great place for kids. The park has a couple of places for catch and release fishing, a small stream and a lake. Current river itself is beautiful. There are a couple of access points just downstream of the park. (get a map and a sturdy vehicle) "Baptist Camp" is the one I usually go to and fish up and down stream. I have had some great days upstream under the canopy of trees. Generally it’s best to find a guide and float the river (canoe) if you want to get the most out of it due to somewhat limited access due to purposeful design. The canoe is used mainly for transportation to wade spots, although I have caught a few from the boat. I have never caught any really large fish on the Current, but normally catch quite a few in the 14 to 25 category. I used a guy by the name of Tom Shipley. Don’t know his wherebouts these days. Maybe you will get some names on this posting. Kevin Williams