I just stumbled on to a great new stream a half hour from my cabin. I’m not telling where it is, of course. (If anyone wants to visit the Stanley area I’ll show it to you.) This is a nearly perfect mountain meadow creek — nice slow dry-fly water — which is a change of pace from the fast-flowing freestone rivers that dominate the landscape here. It has a lot of wildlife, too, which I like. As I walked to the creek there were three Swainson’s hawks in the air and I spooked a pair of Sandhill Cranes and a deer. The walking is treacherous because of numerous beaver projects. There wasn’t another soul in sight. The problem is that I didn’t catch any fish. I saw plenty, though. They came in two sizes: tiny and humongous. It was a problem keeping the tiny ones from spoiling the float to the humongous ones. There were many trout holding near the bank that must have been four pounds and up, easy. They rejected every offering. I crawled on my belly to the bank to avoid spooking them (which is ridiculously easy to do on this creek — spooking, I mean), and basically went through my fly boxes. I’d like to think they just weren’t feeding because a big thunderstorm was moving in. I just watched them for awhile and they didn’t look like they were feeding. This creek is now my project. It’s difficult sight fishing for large prey. BTW, on the drive home, over the pass, I saw that it had snowed. Snow on August 4! — Those who say do not know; those who know do not say. — Lao Tsu, who must have been a fisherman. something bogus to avoid spam)
I just stumbled on to a great new stream a half hour from my cabin. I’m not telling where it is, of course. (If anyone wants to visit the Stanley area I’ll show it to you.) This is a nearly perfect mountain meadow creek — nice slow dry-fly water — which is a change of pace from the fast-flowing freestone rivers that dominate the landscape here. It has a lot of wildlife, too, which I like. As I walked to the creek there were three Swainson’s hawks in the air and I spooked a pair of Sandhill Cranes and a deer. The walking is treacherous because of numerous beaver projects. There wasn’t another soul in sight. The problem is that I didn’t catch any fish. I saw plenty, though.
Today I figured out how to fish this creek. It was great! It fished real well with #8 hoppers during the heat of the afternoon. I walk along the high banks looking for big fish. They seem to hang out together in groups of about 2 to 4 or so, but you also see single fish. If there are small fish around there are never any big fish. There must be a lot of cannibalism going on. (I’ll have to try some streamers next time.) Once I see them they’ve almost certainly seen me and have spooked, no matter how careful I am. In fact, sometimes I deliberately spook them because they’re holding in an undercut bank where I can’t see them. Then I have to wait five minutes or so, well back from the bank. After they’ve rested I creep to the bank about 40 feet upstream from them and present the fly downstream. These fish don’t seem to be all that selective about flies and this place is very lightly fished (I’ve never seen anyone there), but the water is perfectly clear and smooth and 7x tippets are called for. It seemed to be best when there was a bit of a breeze to make ripples on the surface. I got my three best cutthroats of the season today. The largest was maybe 20". Well, OK, 19". Also saw a Peregrine Falcon real close. — Those who say do not know; those who know do not say. — Lao Tsu, who must have been a fisherman. something bogus to avoid spam)
I just stumbled on to a great new stream a half hour from my cabin.
(terrific little narrative snipped) I got my three best cutthroats of the season today. The largest was maybe 20". Well, OK, 19". Also saw a Peregrine Falcon real close. — Those who say do not know; those who know do not say. — Lao Tsu, who must have been a fisherman. something bogus to avoid spam)
god, wulffie, what a world you live in. congratulations. wayno
I am looking for a web site that has salt water fly tying. I am going to Key West in June and I would like to tie some flies before I go. Any ideas?
Try http://www.mindspring.com jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am looking for a web site that has salt water fly tying. I am going to Key West in June and I would like to tie some flies before I go. Any ideas?
I apologize my previous post was a bum address try http://www.mindspring.com/~joeb3 Jim – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am looking for a web site that has salt water fly tying. I am going to Key West in June and I would like to tie some flies before I go. Any ideas?
Thanks! This is exactly what I was looking for. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I apologize my previous post was a bum address try http://www.mindspring.com/~joeb3 Jim I am looking for a web site that has salt water fly tying. I am going to Key West in June and I would like to tie some flies before I go. Any ideas?
Try http://www.reel-time.com/ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am looking for a web site that has salt water fly tying. I am going to Key West in June and I would like to tie some flies before I go. Any ideas?
Try Joe Branham’s page www.mindspring.com/~joeb3
I am looking for a web site that has salt water fly tying. I am going to Key West in June and I would like to tie some flies before I go. Any ideas?
Hi JG, I try to get some sample patterns from someone who fishes the area. I would order some samples of the patterns for the fish that you are after. There are lots of things going on in FL in April/May/June. Example: If you are not renting a boat or going with a guide, you won’t need any tarpon flies, so why tie any? On foot, the most popular thing to fly fish for are bonefish. Bill Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop www.kiene.com
HI, has anyone built a whitewater dory from plans. I have found some Mckenzie Drift boat plans, and these seam very similat to what I want. Any help appreciated. Steve Gubser Johnson City, TN
There are a number of suppliers for your project. Check out a fly fishing magazine in the classified. Don Hill in Springfield Oregon puts out plan, partial kit, and full kit. (www.driftboats.com) or Driftboat plans from Montana, www.montana-riverboats.com/boats/index.html, Tracy Obrian at www.calacess.com/tracy/boatpage.htm or Greg Tatman Wooden boats at www.gregboats.com . Also John’s page if useful, www.cyber-dyne.com/jkohnen/nautical.html Have fun. I’m currently working on a highsided 18′ for GrandCanyon and Salmon/Snake waters.
I have a flyfishing site on the web. Feel welcome. Turn on your sound if you have it.
<<I have a flyfishing site on the web. Feel welcome. Turn on your sound if you have it. Uhhhh, I have sound, and I sure can see, but I don’t know how to get there without a url. <g Dave LaCourse
[deleted] GOOD LUCK; they’re not for the PURIST, but they can be DEADLY on our steelhead here in BC.
Roe is a natural food source and the glo bug is an imitation of the natural. In *NO* way is this different then an imitation of a Pseudocloen or Flavalinia. Purists (?) be damned ! ‘Pure’ly hypocritical, IMNSFHO. TimW
I tie what I call a "golden egg" Tie in led wrap, if wanted, on a wide gap hook. Tie on orange hackle for a wet fly to match the size hook (1/0 to 
Tie in gold mylar cheniel at butt and wrap forward and tie off. Wrap hackle forward and tie off. Whip finish head. This fly works great for Steelhead and Salmon in California. Have fun. Jeff – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone know how to tie this rascal? I have been l;ooking for instructions for my brother in law since before christmas. I would really appreciate any instructions or maybe a link to where I can find out. Thanx
Does anyone know how to tie this rascal? I have been l;ooking for instructions for my brother in law since before christmas. I would really appreciate any instructions or maybe a link to where I can find out. Thanx There are a mulititude of different versions, the easiest is a ball of chenelle on a hook. I use glo-bug yarn of various colors. THe yarn is quite thick and works well. THe basic procedure is to cut off a piece of yarn about 1 cm long. Put the yarn over the hook, a couple of wraps and fare it like deer hair.
PERFECT instructions. Remember to use the STRONGEST thread you can find, and tie it down HARD, and I mean HARD. Then, using the SHARPEST scissors you have, grab the "parachute", pull it up, and saw the yarn off about 1/4" OR LESS from the shank. It will "flare" into a ball. REMEMBER that ALL of the material (and you don’t need much) is tied on the TOP of the hook; there is NO material AT ALL on the bottom, at least the way I tie them, and they can be tied in about 30 seconds !!! 
To get that little "DOT", I simply lay a small piece of yarn, only a few mm in diameter, on TOP of the main colour. When "parachuted", sawed and flared, that little piece becomes the dot as the ends come up and meet. They are SO easy to tie that you’ll wonder why you had problems before. GOOD LUCK; they’re not for the PURIST, but they can be DEADLY on our steelhead here in BC. In the spring, add a little polar bear hair, seal’s fur or white ostrich plume to simlute the spent egg casings, and the cutthroat just go nuts over them (well, at least here in BC where we have ‘Cuts and hatching salmon !!!! ). Regards de Mikey. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -You can stop here and have the simplest, quickest, who cares if you loose it fly that catches fish. Or you can bulk it up with more wraps. You can also trim the yarn into a small tight ball.. Some people add a little red or white etc.. to give a different look.. experiment… BTW, you used to be able to get a mixed bag of yarn with a foot of each color.. Ian
I have recently started tying a different style of egg pattern known as the scrambled egg. Wrap thread over the hook shank and tie a 2 – 3 inch strand of yarn to the top of the hook at the eye. Pinch the strand between your left finger and thumb and pull your hand back towards the bend, so that the yarn slips under tension between your finger and thumb. Pull back about 1/4 to 3/8 inch in this way, and then move your thumb and finger back up to the point where the yarn is lashed down — forming a "bubble" of yarn on top of the hook. Wrap the thread around the shank between your fingers and the ‘bubble’. Repeat this process three or four times, until you reach the bend of the hook, and the thread is wrapped behind the last bubble. Now, wrap the thread forward across the rear bubble, so that the thread splits the bubble into two lateral regions, forming two bumps of yarn side by side. Put down a wrap between the two rear most bubbles, and then move forward again, splitting the next bubble in two. Go all the way to the front of the hook like this, so you finish with about eight ‘eggs’ side by side on top of the length of the hook. A couple half hithces finishes it off. If you lash down two strands of yarn of different colors side by side, you can acheive a multi-colored egg cluster. When you wrap forward with the ‘bubble splitting’ wraps, put the thread between the two colors. The attractive feature of this fly, besides the fact that it works, is that it can be tied in about 20 seconds. -Jon
Does anyone know how to tie this rascal? I have been l;ooking for instructions for my brother in law since before christmas. I would really appreciate any instructions or maybe a link to where I can find out. Thanx
Does anyone know how to tie this rascal? I have been l;ooking for instructions for my brother in law since before christmas. I would really appreciate any instructions or maybe a link to where I can find out. Thanx
Go to the hobby store and buy some yarn or chenile balls in the size and color that you want. Slid them on the hook and apply a drop of glue. If you want take a pentel marker and add a spot of color. Pretty easy.
Does anyone know how to tie this rascal? I have been l;ooking for instructions for my brother in law since before christmas. I would really appreciate any instructions or maybe a link to where I can find out. Thanx
Try posting this to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly.tying — Bob Jarvis Mail addresses hacked to foil automailers!
Does anyone know how to tie this rascal? I have been l;ooking for instructions for my brother in law since before christmas. I would really appreciate any instructions or maybe a link to where I can find out. Thanx
There are a mulititude of different versions, the easiest is a ball of chenelle on a hook. I use glo-bug yarn of various colors. THe yarn is quite thick and works well. THe basic procedure is to cut off a piece of yarn about 1 cm long. Put the yarn over the hook, a couple of wraps and fare it like deer hair. You can stop here and have the simplest, quickest, who cares if you loose it fly that catches fish. Or you can bulk it up with more wraps. You can also trim the yarn into a small tight ball.. Some people add a little red or white etc.. to give a different look.. experiment… BTW, you used to be able to get a mixed bag of yarn with a foot of each color.. Ian
Does anyone know how to tie this rascal? I use glo-bug yarn of various colors. THe yarn is quite thick and works well. THe basic procedure is to cut off a piece of yarn about 1 cm long. Put the yarn over the hook, a couple of wraps and fare it like deer hair.
I usually use 3 or 4 strands to make a real tight ball when it’s trimmed. Also, I will make one of the strands a different color to represent the egg eye (e.g., red with salmon orange egg). Great fish catcher! -Burton — L. Burton Hawley 2330 NW Hummingbird Corvallis, OR
Does anyone know how to tie this rascal? I use glo-bug yarn of various colors. THe yarn is quite thick and works well. THe basic procedure is to cut off a piece of yarn about 1 cm long. Put the yarn over the hook, a couple of wraps and fare it like deer hair. I usually use 3 or 4 strands to make a real tight ball when it’s trimmed. Also, I will make one of the strands a different color to represent the egg eye (e.g., red with salmon orange egg). Great fish catcher!
That’s that way that I tie them too. One of the other things that I’ve done is to take a few wisps of white marabou and tie them just in front of the egg. I’m not sure if it simulates part of the egg sac or an egg that has been fertilized but it seem to work well. Someone asked about how to tie an erzats (sp/) egg awhile back and I don’t think I ever saw an answer. I fooled around with some of that sparkle chennile that’s used in an erzats egg awhile back and just couldn’t figure out how they are done. John Fereira
For the life of me, I do not understand what a double tapered leader is supposed to do. It produces a discontinuity in the transmission of energy in the line to the fly. Maybe it is used to cause a pileup of leader.
Not really. The DT leader I mentioned was presented by AJ McClane in an essay on small stream angling (i.e. tight situations). Though I can’t claim to speak for the late Mr. McClane, the leader was designed to cast a fly in situations where the angler has very little line out, perhaps only a few feet. I’ve used the leader many times under these circumstances and it does what it was designed to do. My suggestion would be for you to tie one up and play around with it. If you like it, you may add it to your sporting arsenal. If you don’t like it, you may discard it in an appropriate manner. Regards, Spinolio
0] : For the life of me, I do not understand what a double tapered leader is : supposed to do. It produces a discontinuity in the transmission of energy : in the line to the fly. Maybe it is used to cause a pileup of leader. : William Buchman I believe the idea is that when you are fishing so short that you have little or no fly line out you get a DT flyline-like action from the leader and thus better control. Mike — Michael McGuire Hewlett Packard Laboratories Phone: (415)-857-5491 Palo Alto, CA 94303-0971
Not long ago there was a thread in ROFF concerning leader recipes and, though this might have been mentioned somewhere, I thought I’d post one for a double-tapered leader. I found this recipe in one of my books by the late, great A.J. McClane (who could probably be the subject of an entire newsgroup) in one of his essays on small stream angling. Here’s how a 7.5 foot DT leader can be tied, from butt to tippet: 18 inches of .014 leader material 6 inches of .015 6 inches of .017 15 inches of .019 9 inches of .015 9 inches of .013 12 inches of .011 15 inches of .009 (lighter tippet can be added if you want) This leader is constructed in such a way that you can cast it with your hand. On small streams and tight spots where you have very little line to work with, the leader itself is sufficient to throw a small fly. Quite an item to have in your vest. Spinolio
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Not long ago there was a thread in ROFF concerning leader recipes and, though this might have been mentioned somewhere, I thought I’d post one for a double-tapered leader. I found this recipe in one of my books by the late, great A.J. McClane (who could probably be the subject of an entire newsgroup) in one of his essays on small stream angling. Here’s how a 7.5 foot DT leader can be tied, from butt to tippet: 18 inches of .014 leader material 6 inches of .015 6 inches of .017 15 inches of .019 9 inches of .015 9 inches of .013 12 inches of .011 15 inches of .009 (lighter tippet can be added if you want) This leader is constructed in such a way that you can cast it with your hand. On small streams and tight spots where you have very little line to work with, the leader itself is sufficient to throw a small fly. Quite an item to have in your vest. Spinolio
Lots of good info in all books buy A.J. McClane and Joe Brooks. They were pretty progressive for 50 years ago. William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY
Lots of good info in all books buy A.J. McClane and Joe Brooks. They were pretty progressive for 50 years ago.
Definitely. A lot of the questions that beginners in the newsgroup ask are dealt with in books by those two. McClane in particular created a foundation of techniques for modern angling, IMO. As long as we’re on the subject, is there any truth to the story that McClane was an agent for the CIA? It sounds crazy, but when you read about some of his strange fishing trips to Africa and South America it kind of makes sense. How ’bout it, Mr Gehrke? Do you have any insight on the matter? Spinolio
Lots of good info in all books buy A.J. McClane and Joe Brooks. They were pretty progressive for 50 years ago. William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA 800/4000FLY
Hi William, I sure agree, my most used reference book is McClane’s New Standard Fishing Encyclopedia. I’ve had it since the early 70’s and reference it often. I personally like to fish traditional wet flies and it is one of the few places I know to get patterns tied by Harry & Elsie Darbee. — Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (97 materials catalog) http://www.flyshop.com/Expo/Specialty/BTsPdcts/index.html
For the life of me, I do not understand what a double tapered leader is supposed to do. It produces a discontinuity in the transmission of energy in the line to the fly. Maybe it is used to cause a pileup of leader. William Buchman
ANYBODY BEEN TO BELIZE? WHERE’S A NICE RESORT CLOSE TO WHERE THE ACTION IS?
ANYBODY BEEN TO BELIZE? WHERE’S A NICE RESORT CLOSE TO WHERE THE ACTION IS?
You can go to Ambergris Cay and stay in the town of San Pedro. There are good flats guides there or you can stay at the El Pescador Lodge near by. This is mostly 20 to 100 pound tarpon and lot of small/medium bones, plus other species. Another choice is to go out to Turneffe Island and stay at Turneffe Flat Lodge or Turneffe Island Lodge. This is very good bonefishing and some permit and tarpon. On the mainland near Belize city is the Belize River Lodge that has a good variety of fishing. The most popular times are spring (April/May/June) and fall (Oct/Nov). If you need any info/brochures on any of these places just call us @800/4000FLY. William Kiene Kiene’s Fly Shop Sacramento,CA,USA
Dawn, Gale Meadows Pond is the closest, then maybe Ball Mtn Dam and Townshend Dam. Somerset Reservoir is not too too far as well. I hope this helps Cheers, James Ehlers Uncle Jammer’s Guide Service LIC#2298 Underhill, VT
I need to know some lakes or ponds near Stratton/Bondville, Vermont good for fishing. Not interested in fly fishing. Thanks.
I’m making my first trip to the Green River next week and have never fished it before. We’ll be hitting the area in Utah where it dumps out of Flaming Gorge. Any advice or suggestions for a beginner on this river? Are there any areas slow (and safe) enough for a float tube?
I’m making my first trip to the Green River next week and have never fished it before. We’ll be hitting the area in Utah where it dumps out of Flaming Gorge. Any advice or suggestions for a beginner on this river? Are there any areas slow (and safe) enough for a float tube?
You should get a guide the first day, so you can get a feel for the river. I just got back from there, and the fishing was great. They raised the water though, but should get good again in a day or so, after the fish settle down to the new flows. There’s a baetis hatch around 2 pm, and if the weather is cloudy and a little chilly, the hatch can go to 5 pm or so. If it’s a nice day, it goes to about 3:30 to 4 pm. I would not use your belly boat at the levels the river is right now, except to ferry to the other side. There are a couple of rapids that you wouldn’t want to go through in the belly boat at this level, but if you know where there at, you can get out and walk around them. Midges are good most of the day, with top feeders stack up on the banks. Good dry fly fishing if the winds not blowing. Have fun, T Wigs.
Hire a good guide. Floating the Green is excellent. PMD and BWO are good bets, along with pheasant tail nymphs and scuds, Griffith’s Gnats always work. One thing to remember, if you can see your fly on the water, it’s too big.
Deke Meyer’s Advanced FlyFishing for Steelhead, Frank Amato Pubs. has a ggod chapter on fishing and tying Spey Flies, with some good patterns. They aren’t too hard to tie, but a rotary vise, such as a Renzetti, will make it a lot easier.–Crashjibe
I wonder if there are any good instructional books out there that focus on spey flies. My Jourgenson doesn’t cover them well and Alcott’s Building Salmon Flies hardly mentions them. They are cool so I’d like to try tying some. (Would want to do a good job). Please reply with any good suggestions. Catch and Release Dave Wood Ravenna OH
(Dht360slt) writes: I wonder if there are any good instructional books out there that focus on spey flies.
For a step by step, see if you can find a copy of T.E. Pryce-Tannat’s book "How to dress Salmonflies". He gives nice instructions even though he doesn’t use a vice to hold the hook. This is one of *the* books on tying salmonflies. It was originally published in 1914. There was a reprint available a few years ago for around $30. Worth looking for. If your local fly fishing club does such things, see if you can get Steve Gobin to come do a one day class. He makes it easy. Tight Threads, Slack Sucks, Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Schools