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The Longest Silence, Thomas McGuane I’ve only started the book, but I am already humbled by McGuane’s story-telling in this book.

I enthusiastically agree. Even though most of the material in this book is recycled from "An Outside Chance, 2nd Ed." which was recycled from the first edition, which was a compilation of essays published in "Sports Illustrated" (in their glory days in the 70’s) and elsewhere, this book is a must-read. McGuane has a gift for writing like nobody else I know. I wish I had been born 15 years earlier, and had been in Key West in the early 70’s, when it was haunted by McGuane, Russell Chatham, Jim Harrison, and Jimmy Buffett. Don’t even want to go there now, I fear it would be a horrible disappointment. Kevin

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The Longest Silence, Thomas McGuane I’ve only started the book, but I am already humbled by McGuane’s story-telling in this book. No offense to you guys (many of whom write good <g), but McGuane’s narrative takes me right into the places and experiences in his fishing life, be it fly fishing for trout or spin casting for stripers in the surf. If the rest of the book is as pleasant as the first part, I just may have to buy a copy. Definitely a good read.

This is the finest fishing-related book I’ve read in many years. Maybe ever. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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The Longest Silence, Thomas McGuane I’ve only started the book, but I am already humbled by McGuane’s story-telling in this book. No offense to you guys (many of whom write good <g), but McGuane’s narrative takes me right into the places and experiences in his fishing life, be it fly fishing for trout or spin casting for stripers in the surf. If the rest of the book is as pleasant as the first part, I just may have to buy a copy. Definitely a good read. Joe F. Ordinarily I’d finish a book before commenting, but I’m overdue for a decent on-topic post, and I’m really liking this book.

joe, that book is one of my favorites… it’s been awhile, mebbe i’m due for a re-read. walt

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Ordinarily I’d finish a book before commenting, but I’m overdue for a decent on-topic post

do us all a favor. send a copy to forty. wayno

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The Longest Silence, Thomas McGuane I’ve only started the book, but I am already humbled by McGuane’s story-telling in this book. No offense to you guys (many of whom write good <g), but McGuane’s narrative takes me right into the places and experiences in his fishing life, be it fly fishing for trout or spin casting for stripers in the surf. If the rest of the book is as pleasant as the first part, I just may have to buy a copy. Definitely a good read.

It just keeps getting better as your read through it. There’s a piece on permit fishing toward the end that is possibly the best thing that I have read on fly fishing. Peter G. Aitken

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The Longest Silence, Thomas McGuane I’ve only started the book, but I am already humbled by McGuane’s story-telling in this book. No offense to you guys (many of whom write good <g), but McGuane’s narrative takes me right into the places and experiences in his fishing life, be it fly fishing for trout or spin casting for stripers in the surf. If the rest of the book is as pleasant as the first part, I just may have to buy a copy. Definitely a good read. Joe F. Ordinarily I’d finish a book before commenting, but I’m overdue for a decent on-topic post, and I’m really liking this book.

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Really? My dad showed me the old rub along the nose trick, said he learned the trick from the old Orvis cane rod builders…

____ I know. Its an old wive’s-tale and was used long before Orvis started doing rods. The secret is SMOOTH and CLEAN. The Four Star AAAA Steel wool is used to shine the ferrule clean. It has minimum wear. For as much as you or anyone else will do (by hand) isn’t worth worrying about. However; even in a lathe spinning at high rpms, AAAA Steel Wool won’t wear unless you polish for a long time for the last micro-fitting of a set of ferrules. This is used not to wear anything off as much as polishing to the final MICRO FINISH that is smooth for a tight fit without lubrication. What most don’t realize is a dirty ferrule with lube on it only COMPOUNDS the wear and most ferrules are worn quicker with lube and dirt mixed, or lube and salts mixed, etc. Not unlike an oil-stone. This is why Nickel Silver Ferrules should never be lubed but kept clean no matter how many years anyone has been fishing. Remember this, one can be wrong for a lifetime and still believe they are right. I’m reminded of the many fly fishermen who thought it was great to use carbontet to dissolve animal fats for dry fly fishing. Of course, thousands of them died of heart failure because they (at that time) all thought it was the greatest thing to do without scientific studies. That said, just keep your ferrules clean. You may use only FOUR AAAA super/extra fine steel wool without worrying about adding wear. After that, clean your ferrules with alcohol once in a while including a Q-tip inside the female ferrule. I should add that at the BASE of each female ferrule should be a guide. This guide, immediately next to the base of the ferrule is what will relieve the torque and/or casting pressures from that ferrule and fit. Everyone that has a bamboo fly rod, if your ferrules don’t have a guide at the start/base of each ferrule, your fly rod is engineered incorrectly regarding the positioning of the guides. Once guides are torqued or begin to ‘rock’ it isn’t long when those ferrules should be replaced and/or the fly rod reguided, if possible due to taper design. These are just a few added notes I can offer to this thread for others to ponder. You can’t make a choice until you have TWO THINGS to choose from. Clean, is gooder. Mr. Gink

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Calling people names only makes you look ignorant. If you can’t argue with logic and common sense and if you don’t know how to read, then don’t mess with experience. It’s Mr.G. to you. See if you can remember that. Lastly, there is no wear to worry about with a once in a year rub with AAAA steel wool. Next time you’re in a hardware store, look at it. This is a product ALL Bamboo Fly Rod Makers and Ferrule Makers use in manufacturing Bamboo Fly Rods. Just because the word "Steel" is in the term, "Steel Wool" doesn’t make it abusive to cleaning the scum off a male ferrule. I think everyone else knows how to decide what they want to do and how to do it. _ Mr.G. http://www.gink.com "the sage continues"

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(snip) I think everyone else knows how to decide what they want to do and how to do it. _

Exactly, George! Ron Kusse says use a clean soft cloth after every use. Under no circumstances should you use anything abrasive — when you polish you remove a tiny portion of the surface material. Eventually you will have two ferrules that do not fit. Kusse has been building cane rods for more than 50 years. I think I will go along with his opinion on this one. Dave LaCourse

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Actually, this is a quite common practice with bamboo rods. Not really necessary with graphite rods as one can twist the sections apart. I did just this Today with my Orvis flea. Ferrules pop loose with ease. I imagine there will come a time when inner ferrule joint will need cleanin’! Not really a topic for discussion, for obvious reasons.

____Because I’m watching you Guyz. Mr.Gink "the saga continues" http://www.gink.com/

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Ordinary white candle wax. TL MC — "In order to know what is possible one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Alright, I know I knew this once, but getting up there in age has spoilt more than just my memory, so help me out here: what’s the best stuff to put on ferrules to keep ‘em from sticking? Just rub some hard paraffin on them? I’ve got this one rod that suddenly started acting up…. tgb

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This is not a good idea, the natural substances contained here will eat into and damage metal ferrules, and dried salt and other materials is more likely to cause ferrules to stick than make them easier to remove. Ordinary white candle wax is the best material for treating ferrules. An occasional cleaning with alcohol, and a rub down with a piece of white candle will ensure long and trouble free life. TL MC — "In order to know what is possible one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, my much older brother Hank, who taught me what fishin was, showed me

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This is not a good idea, the natural substances contained here will eat into and damage metal ferrules, and dried salt and other materials is more likely to cause ferrules to stick than make them easier to remove. Ordinary white candle wax is the best material for treating ferrules.

I vote for Ivory soap. –Steve

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Alright, I know I knew this once, but getting up there in age has spoilt more than just my memory, so help me out here: what’s the best stuff to put on ferrules to keep ‘em from sticking? Just rub some hard paraffin on them? I’ve got this one rod that suddenly started acting up….

To which numerous kind individuals responded both here and via email, all of whom I’d like to thank. Solved my problem. tgb P.S. And as to the facial grease suggestion posted on the NG, hey, at least it wasn’t the "rubbed well with the navel lint from a legal-aged virgin" suggestion I got via email. Kinda feel like Andy Warhol’s "Dracula" now…. tgb

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Ol Danl writes: Well, my much older brother Hank, who taught me what fishin was, showed me one cure for sticky ferrules. I know I’m gonna draw the hecklers in record time for this, but the man (I assume a man) asked a question. Just take the male ferrule piece (oh y’all are gonna have some fun with me!) and roll it in that natural grease pit between either nostril and your face. ***Not on the inside of your nose!*** There its done, and I’m proud of it. You guys wait just a second….there…I’m now in the traditional flamee position….

No flames, Danl. Just facts. What you suggest is probably ok with graphite or glass rods, but the ferrules on a boo rod should never be "greased" in any way, shape, or form. Keep them clean. When you take the rod apart, clean everything with a clean cloth, especially the ferrules. And keep them dry. Dave LaCourse

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Or Albolene? Judging from the 1001 uses described, one more won’t hurt.. Herman This is not a good idea, the natural substances contained here will eat into and damage metal ferrules, and dried salt and other materials is more likely to cause ferrules to stick than make them easier to remove. Ordinary white candle wax is the best material for treating ferrules. I vote for Ivory soap. –Steve

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…..legal-aged virgin….

Huh? What means?

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Wolfie in some parts of the country it is 18, not "If old enough to bleed, old enough to butcher." Ernie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – …..legal-aged virgin…. Huh? What means?

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…..legal-aged virgin…. Huh? What means?

I believe that the age of consent in Oklahoma is still 13 years old, but they have to wait till 21 to buy beer that is of more than 3.2 content. Big Dale Big Dale

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…..legal-aged virgin…. Huh? What means?

In some locations, it’s an 11 year old girl who can outrun her brothers. {:-) George Adams "From the rockin’ of the cradle to the rollin’ of the hearse, the goin’ up was worth the comin’ down." ___Kris Kristofferson "The Pilgrim/Chapter 33"

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…..legal-aged virgin…. Huh? What means?

Ready for a wayno . . . changing? Peter the always helpful

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, my much older brother Hank, who taught me what fishin was, showed me one cure for sticky ferrules. I know I’m gonna draw the hecklers in record time for this, but the man (I assume a man) asked a question. Just take the male ferrule piece (oh y’all are gonna have some fun with me!) and roll it in that natural grease pit between either nostril and your face. ***Not on the inside of your nose!*** There its done, and I’m proud of it. You guys wait just a second….there…I’m now in the traditional flamee position…. Ol’ Danl Finally found a use for having eaten all that Southern fried everything…yum Alright, I know I knew this once, but getting up there in age has spoilt more than just my memory, so help me out here: what’s the best stuff to put on ferrules to keep ‘em from sticking? Just rub some hard paraffin on them? I’ve got this one rod that suddenly started acting up…. tgb +++++ NEVER! Use the oils from the side of the nose on Nickel Silver or any ferrules except graphite (which doesn’t give a damned about anything) The salts and amino acids will destroy your ferrules. What you need to do is CLEAN THE FERRULES not lubricate them. Smooth is the trick and dirt free. — Mr.Gink "the saga continues" http://www.gink.com/

Really? My dad showed me the old rub along the nose trick, said he learned the trick from the old Orvis cane rod builders…

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Clean the ferrules and polish with AAAA Steel Wool. Do not use any kind of lubricant no matter what others tell you. Just keep the micro finish clean and shiny. Lubricants will speed up your ferrules to wearing out. You don’t want any movement at all. Use a circular motion to turn the male ferrule in the very fine steel wool. Again, never use skin oils ever again on your male ferrules to put them together. Smoothness comes with a high micro mirror finish. Remember that. Mr. Gink

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Steel wool will abrade the ferrules and is a bad thing to do. It will ruin the fit in a relatively short time. No abrasives of any sort whatsoever should be used on ferrules, quite irrespective of type. Lubricants are designed to reduce wear, and that is what they do. This is also why they are called lubricants. various liquid lubricants may cause problems with some suction ferrules. Solid paraffin wax will not. Ferrules treated with wax should be cleaned occasionally with alcohol, to ensure that no abrasives are present, and then re waxed. Just a short rub with a white candle and a polish up is all that is required. In the course of forty years fishing, with all sorts of rods, under all sorts of conditions. Ordinary white candle way has proved its worth. I have never had a rod ferrule stick, and I have never had any problems with wear. If you can not decide what to do about your ferrules, or what to apply, then at least keep them clean and dry. TL MC — "In order to know what is possible one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Clean the ferrules and polish with AAAA Steel Wool. Do not use any kind of lubricant no matter what others tell you. Just keep the micro finish clean and shiny. Lubricants will speed up your ferrules to wearing out. You don’t want any movement at all. Use a circular motion to turn the male ferrule in the very fine steel wool. Again, never use skin oils ever again on your male ferrules to put them together. Smoothness comes with a high micro mirror finish. Remember that. Mr. Gink

Do NOT use steel wool, nor any other abrasive on nickel silver ferrules. That’s probably what made a mess of Jerke’s early bamboo rods, those whose ferrules flopped! Clean the ferrules, then give them a quick swipe on two sides with hard paraffin. A white candle works well. Listen to Mike Connor. That noise from the Snake River will lead you astray! Paraffin also works well with glass and carbon. Before you buy.

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Alright, I know I knew this once, but getting up there in age has spoilt more than just my memory, so help me out here: what’s the best stuff to put on ferrules to keep ‘em from sticking? Just rub some hard paraffin on them? I’ve got this one rod that suddenly started acting up…. tgb

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Well, my much older brother Hank, who taught me what fishin was, showed me one cure for sticky ferrules. I know I’m gonna draw the hecklers in record time for this, but the man (I assume a man) asked a question. Just take the male ferrule piece (oh y’all are gonna have some fun with me!) and roll it in that natural grease pit between either nostril and your face. ***Not on the inside of your nose!*** There its done, and I’m proud of it. You guys wait just a second….there…I’m now in the traditional flamee position…. Ol’ Danl Finally found a use for having eaten all that Southern fried everything…yum – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Alright, I know I knew this once, but getting up there in age has spoilt more than just my memory, so help me out here: what’s the best stuff to put on ferrules to keep ‘em from sticking? Just rub some hard paraffin on them? I’ve got this one rod that suddenly started acting up…. tgb

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Actually, this is a quite common practice with bamboo rods. Not really necessary with graphite rods as one can twist the sections apart. I did just this Today with my Orvis flea. Ferrules pop loose with ease. I imagine there will come a time when inner ferrule joint will need cleanin’! Not really a topic for discussion, for obvious reasons. **Panhandling for a better tomorrow!**

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, my much older brother Hank, who taught me what fishin was, showed me one cure for sticky ferrules. I know I’m gonna draw the hecklers in record time for this, but the man (I assume a man) asked a question. Just take the male ferrule piece (oh y’all are gonna have some fun with me!) and roll it in that natural grease pit between either nostril and your face. ***Not on the inside of your nose!*** There its done, and I’m proud of it. You guys wait just a second….there…I’m now in the traditional flamee position…. Ol’ Danl Finally found a use for having eaten all that Southern fried everything…yum Alright, I know I knew this once, but getting up there in age has spoilt more than just my memory, so help me out here: what’s the best stuff to put on ferrules to keep ‘em from sticking? Just rub some hard paraffin on them? I’ve got this one rod that suddenly started acting up…. tgb

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Just take the male ferrule piece (oh y’all are gonna have some fun with me!) and roll it in that natural grease pit between either nostril and your face.

Just make sure you put some parafin on your nose first, Danl. BTW, why does everyone think that place is particularly greasy? Is yours? — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/ something bogus to avoid spam)

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Well, my much older brother Hank, who taught me what fishin was, showed me one cure for sticky ferrules. I know I’m gonna draw the hecklers in record time for this, but the man (I assume a man) asked a question. Just take the male ferrule piece (oh y’all are gonna have some fun with me!) and roll it in that natural grease pit between either nostril and your face. ***Not on the inside of your nose!*** There its done, and I’m proud of it. You guys wait just a second….there…I’m now in the traditional flamee position…. Ol’ Danl

Dan, I made a post some years ago about this but it seems to have dropped off Deja.com darned it. There have been a number of articles in fishing mags as to why this is not a good idea. Salts etc. I rolled a spinning rod metal ferrule on the side of my nose once and as far as I know the damned thing is still stuck together. I gave the rod away. If you would like I can flame you provided you can wait around until I search upstairs for the article or maybe someone else will do it in the meantime. I do like to quote this article as it is the author who does the dirty work (calls you a birdbrain) instead of me. Much safer for me dontchaknow.<G I’ll see if I can find the article as it is quite good and is worthy of repeating. Kiyu

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well, my much older brother Hank, who taught me what fishin was, showed me one cure for sticky ferrules. I know I’m gonna draw the hecklers in record time for this, but the man (I assume a man) asked a question. Just take the male ferrule piece (oh y’all are gonna have some fun with me!) and roll it in that natural grease pit between either nostril and your face. ***Not on the inside of your nose!*** There its done, and I’m proud of it. You guys wait just a second….there…I’m now in the traditional flamee position…. Ol’ Danl Finally found a use for having eaten all that Southern fried everything…yum Alright, I know I knew this once, but getting up there in age has spoilt more than just my memory, so help me out here: what’s the best stuff to put on ferrules to keep ‘em from sticking? Just rub some hard paraffin on them? I’ve got this one rod that suddenly started acting up…. tgb

+++++ NEVER! Use the oils from the side of the nose on Nickel Silver or any ferrules except graphite (which doesn’t give a damned about anything) The salts and amino acids will destroy your ferrules. What you need to do is CLEAN THE FERRULES not lubricate them. Smooth is the trick and dirt free. — Mr.Gink "the saga continues" http://www.gink.com/

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says… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I live in Butte, Montana, born and raised here. Also lived and fished the Sierra Nevada’s near Truckee, CA for about 10 years. I have degrees in Respiratory Therapy and a graduate degree in Biology. Been a FF’er since the 70’s. I very much enjoy still water fishing. All those lakes near Truckee had a lasting effect. Milton Reservoir remains one of my favorite places to fish. I have read this group for the last couple of years and had kind of dropped it due to all the flames and off subject stuff. I returned a few weeks ago and was surprised to see the lack of venom. Personally, I enjoy a fishing group that talks about fishing. I am curious, what happened? Joe

Howdy Joe, What happened? Well hell, as someone else put it, we all set down on the front porch and started drinkin’ and bs’n and it turns out we ain’t all so bad, different (‘ceptin wayno and i are johnny rebs) or f&*!ed-up as we originally thought. However, I wouldn’t hold my breath too long if I was you. I see storm clouds a buildin’ out west in the Rockies and up north Canady way. Tight lines, Wataugan Walt

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… I live in Butte, Montana, born and raised here. Also lived and fished the Sierra Nevada’s near Truckee, CA for about 10 years. I have degrees in Respiratory Therapy and a graduate degree in Biology. Been a FF’er since the 70’s. I very much enjoy still water fishing. All those lakes near Truckee had a lasting effect. Milton Reservoir remains one of my favorite places to fish. I have read this group for the last couple of years and had kind of dropped it due to all the flames and off subject stuff. I returned a few weeks ago and was surprised to see the lack of venom. Personally, I enjoy a fishing group that talks about fishing. I am curious, what happened? Joe Howdy Joe, What happened? Well hell, as someone else put it, we all set down on the front porch and started drinkin’ and bs’n and it turns out we ain’t all so bad, different (‘ceptin wayno and i are johnny rebs) or f&*!ed-up as we originally thought. However, I wouldn’t hold my breath too long if I was you. I see storm clouds a buildin’ out west in the Rockies and up north Canady way. Tight lines, Wataugan Walt

Rebels? In NORTH Carolina ? I was under the impression that everybody north of Jacksonville was a yankee. (that auta kick up some dust). Guess next time I see ya I’ll havta check if yer smoken backwoods en gulpin burbon en branch water ( I prefer southern comfort). John Popp pertnear south as ya get in Sanford Fl.

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Freud would have had a field day with this one. I’ve heard about having an Oedipus complex, but I’ve never heard of suffering from the Rex. Peter – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok…here’s mine. Sorry to bore you, in advance. I am Fifi, the standard internet test poodle. I am a 6 year old miniature french poodle (white, female) owned by some very nice people in Canada. I am very pampered and a very, very lucky little dog. I have a beautiful studded collar that my owner, an elderly couple, got me for Christmas last year (human year). I am well fed and groomed. Like I said, I am very lucky. Except for sometimes. That sometimes is when Uncle Jim comes by and is left alone with me or takes me to the poodle boutique. He is a very mean man. In the interest of good taste and politeness (I am french, after all) I will not elaborate on the details of his acts. Once, though, he left me in the car on the hottest day of the year while he went in to some place that looked like a big doghouse and had sillohouettes of nude human females painted black on the outside. Of course, I can’t speak and my owner never knows what he does. The best I can do is bark and try to bite him. — Fifi

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Which just goes to show you…never underestimate an ass. Jon "Fishing’s the last thing on my mind" Cook.

– Shoot far’ Jon, I’ve seen asses that couldn’t be *overestimated*! (-: Frank Church Elkhart, IN Over the hill? What hill? I didn’t see no hill….(!)

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Ok…here’s mine. Sorry to bore you, in advance. I am Fifi, the standard internet test poodle. I am a 6 year old miniature french poodle (white, female) owned by some very nice people in Canada. I am very pampered and a very, very lucky little dog. I have a beautiful studded collar that my owner, an elderly couple, got me for Christmas last year (human year). I am well fed and groomed. Like I said, I am very lucky. Except for sometimes. That sometimes is when Uncle Jim comes by and is left alone with me or takes me to the poodle boutique. He is a very mean man. In the interest of good taste and politeness (I am french, after all) I will not elaborate on the details of his acts. Once, though, he left me in the car on the hottest day of the year while he went in to some place that looked like a big doghouse and had sillohouettes of nude human females painted black on the outside. Of course, I can’t speak and my owner never knows what he does. The best I can do is bark and try to bite him. — Fifi

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Ok…here’s mine. Sorry to bore you, in advance. I am Fifi, the standard internet test poodle.

Bloody hell ! Reincarnation yet, thought you got burned to death in a pain threshold experiment. Welcome back to ROFF. You will doubtless be pleased to here that one of the current discussions is Catfishing, and whether to release the beasts or not. This may at least give you some vicarious pleasure, and compensate you somewhat for the dastardly acts imposed on your good self by Uncle Jim. Seems there are a couple of people on here, very similar to Uncle Jim, who have problems with cats actually, or maybe just the houses the cats live in ? Whatever, glad to see you alive and barking. Fifi long thought to be dead, has again raised her elegant head, like a phoenix she rose, ( an unnatural pose ! ), and she still looks well groomed and well fed. Pampered and polished she is, and goes once a week for a frizz, to the poodle boutique, with her uncle the freak, but no reason to get in a tizz ! The tests have now been postponed, cause Fifi was obviously stoned, you dont feel pain, when youre full of cocaine, and the lexus would have to be loaned. In the future we

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I am from Minnesota and this trout and salmon fishing is new to me. I have done some fishing already and had pretty good success with the warm water species. I am looking for a place to take my son and catch some trout/salmon. Scott Lodoen Hawg Custom Rods – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : I am new to Northern Idaho and would like some advice on what and : where to fish. I live in the Coeur d’Alene area. Look out the door. You will find a lake there of some size. Care to be more specific? — Rick T. Rick Fletcher – http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry | That’s Idaho, not Iowa. | ad hominem University of Idaho | Upper Left Hand Corner. | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343 | No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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: Actually, his statement comes from the fact that many residents of : the region prefer to consider themselves part of a different state, often : talking (at least somewhat jokingly) about seceding from Idaho. The : politics, economics, etc., "up there" are significantly different from : "down south", but all the state government is located in the south, : and a lot of people up north feel that they aren’t fairly treated. Seldom is the discussion done "somewhat jokingly." N. Idaho has tried seceding on several occasions, including the original, to become a part of Washington, and even Montana. (Canada has never been considered an option.) Since N. Idaho has the majority of resources, excluding population, the idea is always defeated by the majority in Boise. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher – http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry | That’s Idaho, not Iowa. | ad hominem University of Idaho | Upper Left Hand Corner. | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343 | No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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Actually, his statement comes from the fact that many residents of the region prefer to consider themselves part of a different state, often talking (at least somewhat jokingly) about seceding from Idaho. The politics, economics, etc., "up there" are significantly different from "down south", but all the state government is located in the south, and a lot of people up north feel that they aren’t fairly treated. It’s the same way here in Oregon, except the division is east/west vs. north/south. I suspect the same is true in Washington, too. Jeff (formerly from Boise) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you are going to nit-pick – at least try to be consistent. Is there now an area or state called North Idaho ? You then refer to "eastern Washington" Not "east Washington" ?? I am from Southern – Whoops, I mean South California ? I think you may be confusing adjectives with nouns or something like that. Bill – - – - – - – - I am new to Northern Idaho and would like some advice on what and where to fish. I live in the Coeur d’Alene area. Well, for starters quit referring to it as Northern Idaho!!! It is North Idaho. Look the quickest method for finding the best fishing spots is to look in the fishing regulations. Catch and kill fishing for trout,particularly cuts, reduces the population significantly. The best fishing is always going to be found in catch and release waters, then followed by limited kill areas, etc. etc. down the line. Of course, in the catch and release areas you have to share the water with some rather strange people…but the problem is less signifcant in Idaho than here in eastern Washington where we have the Seattle folks fishing our waters. My all time favorite is when a Seattle fly club showed up 50 strong on a tiny lake…then proceeded to set up a PA system so they could listen to the Seattle Mariners ballgame while they fished!! I asked one of the members if they took their flyrods to the ballpark….he answered " that would be stupid". Oh, so it makes sense to take the ball game to the lake while fly fishing!!. My guess is that they would have set up a big screen TV…but fortunately they forgot to bring their satellite dish.

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: I am new to Northern Idaho and would like some advice on what and : where to fish. I live in the Coeur d’Alene area. Look out the door. You will find a lake there of some size. Care to be more specific? — Rick T. Rick Fletcher – http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry | That’s Idaho, not Iowa. | ad hominem University of Idaho | Upper Left Hand Corner. | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343 | No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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Hello, all I will be taking a vacation to Scotland next summer, probably in mid-July. I am interested in fly fishing for salmon in the rivers Spey, Usk, Loch Ness, and Loch Carron. Are the salmon running at that time of year? I have a 9.5 ft 10 wt with an Orvis Battenkill 10-11 reel. Would that rig be sufficient, if so, what flies, leaders, and other equipment might I need. TIA Bryce Carron

I have been fishing for salmon in Scotland for the past 7 years on the South Elks (East coast). This summer we caught 2 salomon and two sea trout. The worst in all of my years. It seenms that the commerical fisheries are netting all the fish before they ready the rivers. You may have a difficult time booking a beat unless you known someone. Day tickets can be a waste of time. If you really want to go try the Spy (around Aveiemore or Pitlockry). There aren’t the fish in the rivers where you can get a day’ ticket. As for your rod, I use a Spy casting (two handed) with fast sinking line, (depends on the water – fast of slow moving). Any way, you will need a line that sinks to the fish. They don’t feed in fresh water what you are doing is making him mad enough to move the fly out of this area. Flies used are shrimp (prones), Skotes tail or any streamer with color works well. If you Tight lines, Keith Gibson

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I have been fishing for salmon in Scotland for the past 7 years on the South Elks (East coast). This summer we caught 2 salomon and two sea trout. The worst in all of my years. It seenms that the commerical fisheries are netting all the fish before they ready the rivers. You may have a difficult time booking a beat unless you known someone. Day tickets can be a waste of time. If you really want to go try the Spy (around Aveiemore or Pitlockry). There aren’t the fish in the rivers where you can get a day’ ticket. As for your rod, I use a Spy casting (two handed) with fast sinking line, (depends on the water – fast of slow moving). Any way, you will need a line that sinks to the fish. They don’t feed in fresh water what you are doing is making him mad enough to move the fly out of this area. Flies used are shrimp (prones), Skotes tail or any streamer with color works well. If you Tight lines, Keith Gibson

Keith I hope its your keyboard that you are having trouble with and not the grey matter between your ears. mean the South Esk." 2) You put the lack of fish down to increased commercial fishery netting. "For your information there are many factors affecting salmonoid stocks, sea-temperature, deforrestation, dry winters, reduction in spawning grounds…etc" mean Aviemore as for Pitlockry there is no such place in the UK, the nearest I can find is Pitlochry but that is about 100 miles from the Spey, surely you didn’t mean that. Even using your Spy rod I doubt you could cast that far. 4) The Spey is a shallow river for most of its length and to advise anybody to use a fast sinking line is foolish, unless you want to loose lots of flies and nylon. To fish the Spey even in February we locals don’t use anything more than a Wet Cel 1 but more often its just a sink-tip. believe I knoe that one. I think the fly you are trying to reccommend is the Stoats Tail. Good advice…….for certain conditions but when would you use it as opposed to a Allies Shrimp, Garry Dog, Hornet and in what sizes and on what hooks?. When did you escape from that nice warm and cosy hospital :-) Only joking Kieth, but try to make your comments as accurate as possible in future, Chris

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The Association waters on the Spey at Abernethy and Grantown give pretty good fishing at reasonable cost. You would find a single-handed rod pretty short for the Spey – it’s a wide river. The Tourist Information Office at Grantown would give details. Tight Lines

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I’ve heard a lot about Boca Grande of late and thought I might like to check it out. I would appreciate any recommendations of, or warnings about, lodging and guides. Thanks WAL

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TRY Boca Grande Real Estate.They can be found on the iternet Keyword Boca Grande. I have used them for six years ,great service and rentals are great.You can also find there 800# in Florida Sportsman. Email GOOD Luck

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TRY Boca Grande Real Estate.They can be found on the iternet Keyword Boca Grande. I have used them for six years ,great service and rentals are great.You can also find there 800# in Florida Sportsman. Email GOOD Luck

_______BOCA GRANDE is very expensive. Your money is taken from you by the pound. If you can, use a camper-trailer or mobil home. The camp sites are much more reasonable and you can move around better. George — MZ

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I’ve heard a lot about Boca Grande of late and thought I might like to check it out. I would appreciate any recommendations of, or warnings about, lodging and guides. Thanks WAL

I have fished Boca Grande and its surrounding waters for many years. In general, the island of Gasparilla, where the city of Boca Grande (named for the adjoining pass) is located, can be on the expensive side. You might want to check out this site for Pine Island and surrounding areas. The northern tip of Pine Island is located just a few miles east of Boca Grande pass. This site gives a particularly good description of the history and attractions of this general area. http://www.pineislandfl.com/ If you like roughing it, you might want to consider Cayo Costa (a Florida State Park). Cayo Costa is the barrier island that makes up the southern shore of Boca Grande pass. Access to this island is by boat only, although there are frequent passenger ferry trips (no cars) from Pine Island. See these sites: http://www.atlantagames.com./south/getaway/cayo.htm http://www.dep.state.fl.us/parks/southwest/cayo.html Boca Grande, the pass, is a major inlet to Charlotte Harbor. The pass itself is noted mostly for its Tarpon fishing which is at its best starting in late April thought early June. The waters inside (east) of the pass, i.e. Charlotte Harbor and its tributaries and adjoining bays, are noted for some of the best backcountry fishing for Snook, Redfish, and Spotted Sea Trout (Speckled Trout) in this country. There are many good guides in the area. However, I usually guide myself and, with one exception, am not able to help you there. Several years ago, I did hire a guide, a Captain Bill Miller, to take a visiting family member and myself for a day of backcountry fly fishing. It was an excellent trip with many redfish and trout being caught (that’s what we were looking for) and we were impressed with the knowledge and skills of the guide. I don’t know if Bill is still guiding in the area or not, but he specializes in fly fishing for everything from tarpon to trout. He even released a video tape several years ago that might still be avaliable. Its title is "The Complete Guide to Tarpon Fishing With Artificials". A good site for Boca Grande and Gasparilla Island can be found here: http://www.cyberstreet.com/ccfsbo/bocagran.htm Hope this helps…