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This week a fisherman in Beaufort Inlet near Harker’s Island reported catching an Octopus on a fly.  He didn’t give out his secret octopus pattern but you can rest assured the guides are already mounting ad campaigns for octopus fishing, Orvis is developing a special octopus rod, and Scientific Anglers  has an octopus line in the works.  This time next year there will be several books out on octopus fly patterns and videos on octopus fly presentations. Have a look at: http://fishmojo.com/cgi-bin/noteboards/harkers.cgi Wayne to fish is human….to release Divine!!

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This week a fisherman in Beaufort Inlet near Harker’s Island reported catching an Octopus on a fly.  He didn’t give out his secret octopus pattern but you can rest assured the guides are already mounting ad campaigns for octopus fishing, Orvis is developing a special octopus rod, and Scientific Anglers  has an octopus line in the works.  This time next year there will be several books out on octopus fly patterns and videos on octopus fly presentations. Have a look at: http://fishmojo.com/cgi-bin/noteboards/harkers.cgi Wayne to fish is human….to release Divine!!

Good.  Catch ‘em all and kill ‘em.  Octopi once had a well deserved reputation for being vicious, grasping, and rapacious.  "Scientists" (well known for their comsymp leftist leanings) have gone to great lengths…..some might say EXTRAORDINARY lengths….to "rehabilitate" them in the popular image for some decades now, and with not a little success.  But there are still those of us with a clarity of vision not in the least diminished by the blandishments of our corrupt cognoscenti "comrades".  The careful observer, unfazed by the clamoring and yammering of the proletariat rabble will not be immune to the obvious symbolism of the octopus’s eight slithering sucking arms radiating from a "central governing body", nor to the significance of it’s disgusting and cowardly habit of escaping under the cover of an obfuscating ink screen like so many pinko "journalists", rather than standing up and fighting like a man.  Shit, one good marine could open up a HUGE can of whupass on hundreds of them slimy little clam eating bastards!  And don’t even get me started on them chicom urchins just loafing around on the seafloor when they oughta all be put in a workhouse where they could be doing something productive rather than just sucking on the taxpayers tit, like we did when I was a ki…..um…….well, just DON’T!     Wolfgang i got a list here in my pocket!

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Now there is one taxidermy mount you will never see…..at least nobody’s wife would ever allow it displayed in the home!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This week a fisherman in Beaufort Inlet near Harker’s Island reported catching an Octopus on a fly.  He didn’t give out his secret octopus pattern but you can rest assured the guides are already mounting ad campaigns for octopus fishing, Orvis is developing a special octopus rod, and Scientific Anglers  has an octopus line in the works.  This time next year there will be several books out on octopus fly patterns and videos on octopus fly presentations. Have a look at: http://fishmojo.com/cgi-bin/noteboards/harkers.cgi Wayne to fish is human….to release Divine!!

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Wolfgang notes: "Scientists" (well known for their comsymp leftist leanings) have gone to great lengths…..some might say EXTRAORDINARY lengths….to "rehabilitate" them in the popular image…..

<much good humor snipped ….yeah, I think I read about that in the NY Times……or was it the Washington Post?                              Tom

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Geez, Wolfy!  I did not know octopi were that bad, honestly.  Not did I know anyone could have such a vengeance against them.  It makes me look not so bad with my vengeance against grass carp. Please, enlighten me (seriously).  I have never had any kind of run-in with an octopus before.  What do they do?  Are we talking Captain Nemo and "2000 Leagues Under the Sea" kind of bad, or are they harming the fish? I can picture one mounted with its legs straight out and used as a coat rack. Scott

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This week a fisherman in Beaufort Inlet near Harker’s Island reported catching an Octopus on a fly.  He didn’t give out his secret octopus pattern but you can rest assured the guides are already mounting ad campaigns for octopus fishing, Orvis is developing a special octopus rod, and Scientific Anglers  has an octopus line in the works.  This time next year there will be several books out on octopus fly patterns and videos on octopus fly presentations. Have a look at: http://fishmojo.com/cgi-bin/noteboards/harkers.cgi Wayne to fish is human….to release Divine!! Good.  Catch ‘em all and kill ‘em.  Octopi once had a well deserved reputation for being vicious, grasping, and rapacious.  "Scientists" (well known for their comsymp leftist leanings) have gone to great lengths…..some might say EXTRAORDINARY lengths….to "rehabilitate" them in the popular image for some decades now, and with not a little success.  But there are still those of us with a clarity of vision not in the least diminished by the blandishments of our corrupt cognoscenti "comrades".  The careful observer, unfazed by the clamoring and yammering of the proletariat rabble will not be immune to the obvious symbolism of the octopus’s eight slithering sucking arms radiating from a "central governing body", nor to the significance of it’s disgusting and cowardly habit of escaping under the cover of an obfuscating ink screen like so many pinko "journalists", rather than standing up and fighting like a man.  Shit, one good marine could open up a HUGE can of whupass on hundreds of them slimy little clam eating bastards!  And don’t even get me started on them chicom urchins just loafing around on the seafloor when they oughta all be put in a workhouse where they could be doing something productive rather than just sucking on the taxpayers tit, like we did when I was a ki…..um…….well, just DON’T!     Wolfgang i got a list here in my pocket!

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Geez, Wolfy!  I did not know octopi were that bad, honestly.  Not did I know anyone could have such a vengeance against them.  It makes me look not so bad with my vengeance against grass carp. Please, enlighten me (seriously).  I have never had any kind of run-in with an octopus before.  What do they do?  Are we talking Captain Nemo and "2000 Leagues Under the Sea" kind of bad, or are they harming the fish?

Well, aside from their aforementioned leftist tendencies, they seem pretty bastards……they ALWAYS SEEM harmless……till it’s too late! I can picture one mounted with its legs straight out and used as a coat rack.

Yep, oughta have one in the lobby of every VFW and Legion post! Wolfgang

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Geez, Wolfy!  I did not know octopi were that bad, honestly.  Not did I know anyone could have such a vengeance against them.  It makes me look not so bad with my vengeance against grass carp. Please, enlighten me (seriously).  I have never had any kind of run-in with an octopus before.  What do they do?  Are we talking Captain Nemo and "2000 Leagues Under the Sea" kind of bad, or are they harming the fish? Well, aside from their aforementioned leftist tendencies, they seem pretty bastards……they ALWAYS SEEM harmless……till it’s too late! I can picture one mounted with its legs straight out and used as a coat rack. Yep, oughta have one in the lobby of every VFW and Legion post! Wolfgang

LOL! Scott

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This week a fisherman in Beaufort Inlet near Harker’s Island reported catching an Octopus on a fly.

I remember being called by my daughter when she was about 13 and we were all snorkelling in greece.  I swam over and she pointed. She, in her mask and snorkel, was staring at an octopus, which, quite clearly, was just as interested and curious as she was. They hovered closer and closer, looked at each other, then the octopus swam away, stopping every so often to look back. I’ve found it hard to eat the critters ever since. Wayne, this of course was post-Junta Greece. The colonels wouldn’t have tolerated the liberal scum in their waters. Lazarus

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I can picture one mounted with its legs straight out and used as a coat rack.

 It could be the center of a mobile,  your other mounted trophies hanging from the tips of it’s tenticals.

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  I’m unsure of whether to head up to the Lake Tahoe area or the Southern Utah area in a week or two to do some flyfishing.  I’ve tried to find some up to date reports from those two areas on the internet but haven’t come up with anything helpful.  Does anybody know of any websites with up to date reports for those to specific areas?  I’m not interested in fishing in actually Lake Tahoe but the smaller resevoirs and streams around it (Martis Creek Resevoir, Spooner Lake, Truckee River)  and in Utah I’m interested in   the Beaver river and some of those smaller lakes in the south. Thanks for any help anybody can provide. Matthew —       Matthew W. Kaphan         Las Vegas, NV

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For Truckee area fishing reports go to www.flyline.com   The reports are pretty accurate and are updated every day and provides alot of useful info. You can also call the Truckee River Outfitters-a local Fly Fishing Shop.  I don’t know their number, but google probably can get it for you. Good Luck Rob L

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   I’m unsure of whether to head up to the Lake Tahoe area or the Southern Utah area in a week or two to do some flyfishing.  I’ve tried to find some up to date reports from those two areas on the internet but haven’t come up with anything helpful.  Does anybody know of any websites with up to date reports for those to specific areas?  I’m not interested in fishing in actually Lake Tahoe but the smaller resevoirs and streams around it (Martis Creek Resevoir, Spooner Lake, Truckee River)  and in Utah I’m interested in the Beaver river and some of those smaller lakes in the south. Thanks for any help anybody can provide. Matthew —       Matthew W. Kaphan         Las Vegas, NV

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  I’m unsure of whether to head up to the Lake Tahoe area or the Southern Utah area in a week or two to do some flyfishing.  I’ve tried to find some up to date reports from those two areas on the internet but haven’t come up with anything helpful.  Does anybody know of any websites with up to date reports for those to specific areas?  I’m not interested in fishing in actually Lake Tahoe but the smaller resevoirs and streams around it (Martis Creek Resevoir, Spooner Lake, Truckee River)  and in Utah I’m interested in the Beaver river and some of those smaller lakes in the south. Thanks for any help anybody can provide. Matthew

I asked someone in a local Tahoe store last autumn about the fishing up there. Apparently you have to be very good at reading the water since the area is somewhat overfished. —       Matthew W. Kaphan         Las Vegas, NV

– Svend  1600 Amphitheatre Pkwy       Phone: (+1) 650 933 3618  Mountain View  California 94043  USA

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The Truckee & Little Truckee get pounded pretty good, be prepared for slow fishing unless you can consider yourself expert.  These two rivers were some of the original Wild Trout programs in CA, along with Martis Lakw-They are C&R only,with barbless hooks or flies only allowed.  However, there are BIG FISH in these and other nearby waters.  Get the Truckee River acess map, and plan before you go. Rob L – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I asked someone in a local Tahoe store last autumn about the fishing up there. Apparently you have to be very good at reading the water since the area is somewhat overfished. —       Matthew W. Kaphan         Las Vegas, NV — Svend  1600 Amphitheatre Pkwy       Phone: (+1) 650 933 3618  Mountain View  California 94043  USA

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The Truckee & Little Truckee get pounded pretty good, be prepared for slow fishing unless you can consider yourself expert.  These two rivers were some of the original Wild Trout programs in CA, along with Martis Lakw-They are C&R only,with barbless hooks or flies only allowed.  However, there are BIG FISH in these and other nearby waters.  Get the Truckee River acess map, and plan before you go. Rob L

Hi Rob. Are these fish comming up from Pyramide Lake ? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I asked someone in a local Tahoe store last autumn about the fishing up there. Apparently you have to be very good at reading the water since the area is somewhat overfished. —       Matthew W. Kaphan         Las Vegas, NV — Svend  1600 Amphitheatre Pkwy       Phone: (+1) 650 933 3618  Mountain View  California 94043  USA

– Svend  1600 Amphitheatre Pkwy       Phone: (+1) 650 933 3618  Mountain View  California 94043  USA

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As far as I know they aren’t Pyramid Lake fish.  For an excellent resource on the Truckee and Pyramid, call the Truckee River Outfitters and ask one of their guy’s.  Some of them also work in their other shop in Reno and do guided trips and instruction in both areas.  They have always been forthcoming with good info. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Are these fish comming up from Pyramide Lake ?

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Hi, I am from France and have been fishing in southern Utah few times and I enjoyed uit very much the colorado river down stream Lake Powell is jsut wonderful have a look at : http://www.leesferry.com/ and there is also some great places where brown trouts are waiting for your fly have a good time , and feel free to ask further information if needed

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All in all, a nice weekend; only 12 months until the next one. Jack will be here, as always, probably Randall Kauffman too, and a large number of flyfishing books from Australia for the collection.

  Thanks for the info.  Let us know the date of next year’s event. Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne).

  Oh, no.  They moved Laramie?  I really liked the old location:)   Boy, that sounds like a good time.  If I wasn’t all traveled out, I’d go. Also, the ice is going off.  Time to do some local fishing, finally. Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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i think you mean west of cheyenne….. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne).

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  Oh, no.  They moved Laramie?  I really liked the old location:)   Boy, that sounds like a good time.

    Drag your sorry ass down; me and Willi are going.

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    Drag your sorry ass down; me and Willi are going.

  Well, that’s just not fair.  The two guys I know who least need any education in the fly fishing field get to go and the guy who could really benefit has a severe case of jet lag and there’s no way I could have made it to Laramie.   Man, I’m beat.  On March 6th & 7th, I was on the Bighorn.  On the 8th, I drove home to Buffalo, changed gear and drove to Denver so I could be airborne to Orlando on Sat. am.  I went with my retired pilot friends to the EAA fly in at Lakeland.  I got to fly first class both ways and got to drink some first class gin & tonics.  (I’m back on the wagon, now.)  I went from 10 degrees on the ‘horn to 85 degrees with big time humidity in Fla.  How the heck to folks live down there?   The fishing on the Bighorn was really slow.  Everyone caught some fish on Wed. when we floated from mile 3 to Bighorn.  No surface action and the fly rod guides didn’t stay thawed out to about 2:00 pm.  We stayed at Cottonwood and noticed the place was packed.  We decided to float the lower river, Bighorn to Mallard, in the hopes there wouldn’t be a crowd.  That panned out.  But, there were no fish caught by the 5 in our group.  We’d never fished that stretch so it was interesting to see some new country.  There was a lot of "fishy" looking water and the water was pretty clear.  There are some pretty good fishermen in our group so I was very surprised that there were no fish caught.  I guess the buys did pretty good on Friday when they fished from afterbay to mile 3 but the river was very crowded.   Has anyone heard of any talk about a pretty heavy fish kill on the ‘horn?  A couple of months ago, we saw a large number of dead fish on the bottom.  There’s been some talk of last years low flows impacting the fish population.   The stream in town is ice free and I’m going out this afternoon to see if any local lakes have opened up.  Life is good:) Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne).

~^beancounter~^ added: i think you mean west of cheyenne…..

the wind can blow pretty hard up here…. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne).

  So tell us about the seminar. Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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What is the TITLE of this tape and who is selling it I wonder? Does anyone know? George – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – That streamer footage is awesome. Saw it in Wichita in Feb. This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne).   So tell us about the seminar. Snoop Friday was a combination of casting demos, tying demos, and presentations on fishing tactics. All of the tying demos took place in the student union lobby; Jack Dennis would tie for an hour, then Mike Lawson for another hour and so on. While one was in the lobby tying flies, the other would either be outside casting or else upstairs giving a fishing seminar. Saturday morning was more of the same. The most memorable parts for me were Jack’s seminar on streamer fishing (consisting largely of video footage of trout eating mice, frogs, and baitfish. gotta get a copy of that.), and getting enough pointers from Lawson on tying the no-hackle to actually start tying them myself. The Colorado Delegation arrived too late for the streamer video, but just in time for the panel discussion on instream flows. Not as entertaining as watching trout eat live mice, but still very worthwhile. The Saturday night banquet was very nice. Good food, good company, and lots of raffle loot. Jack and Mike hosted an excellent presentation on fly fishing literature to dedicate the establishment of the Gary LaFontaine Book Collection at UW’s Centennial Museum. This collection will complement the Toppan Collection, which has been a feature of every symposium we’ve held, and one of Gary LaFontaine’s favorite attractions during his visits here. The new collection is off to a good start, with donations from Jack Dennis, Stan Bradshaw, John Gierach, and many others. Finally, it was time to go home, so we all did. The next morning the organizers had planned (as usual) to go on a float trip to celebrate, but weather intervened and Sunday mornings festivities consisted of an early morning drive down a long narrow road, standing around in a parking lot talking about how windy it was today and where we planned to fish later in the season, followed by a midday trip back home on that same road, only with stronger crosswinds. All in all, a nice weekend; only 12 months until the next one. Jack will be here, as always, probably Randall Kauffman too, and a large number of flyfishing books from Australia for the collection. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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That streamer footage is awesome. Saw it in Wichita in Feb. What is the TITLE of this tape and who is selling it I wonder? Does anyone know?

It’s something of his own that Jack had, and as much as he’d like to incorporate it into a complete video, one of the key people involved in making it is hard to locate. Until he can get this person’s permission to borrow the footage for a new video (on streamer fishing), there won’t be one. I wouldn’t say never, but I would say to be patient and watch for it. Until then, if you’re at any sports show where Jack is doing a seminar on streamer fishing, go to it and you’ll probably see the footage. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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    So tell us about the seminar.     I picked Willi up at the Rancho de Peros at about eleven and we headed north, soothed by the soundtrack to "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" (Willi said he had to get used to that kind of music because he’s soon going to be sharing living accommodations with a bunch of banjo pickin’ hillbillies), we arrived at the UW campus just as some famous people were breaking for lunch. The afternoon was spent at a symposium where more famous people talked about progressive water right laws like we’ll NEVER see in Colorado, but before you knew it, it was about beer-thirty, so Willi and I headed downtown and killed a little time before the banquet. The banquet was very nice, the food was excellent and Rusty’s chapter even threw in a host bar (my chapter would be in the red if they ever did anything as foolhardy), I spent an hour juggling free booze while trying not to look too interested in the silent auction painting I was determined to take home. After dinner Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson gave a very touching slide show, which dedicated the Gary Lafontaine library collection. I won a bunch of cool junk I have no use for at the raffle, so I’ll probably send some of it with Willi to the Penn’s Clave. Enjoyed a great Fuente on the drive home.

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    So tell us about the seminar.     I picked Willi up at the Rancho de Peros at about eleven and we headed north, soothed by the soundtrack to "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" (Willi said he had to get used to that kind of music because he’s soon going to be sharing living accommodations with a bunch of banjo pickin’ hillbillies)

That’s Charlie’s joke, not mine! Willi

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    So tell us about the seminar.     I picked Willi up at the Rancho de Peros at about eleven and we headed north, soothed by the soundtrack to "Oh Brother Where Art Thou" (Willi said he had to get used to that kind of music because he’s soon going to be sharing living accommodations with a bunch of banjo pickin’ hillbillies),

jeff can’t play da ‘jo worth sheet. only din tom picks iz heez nose. no worry willi, afta a few swigs of the mountain brew, ya ain’t gonna hear the music…. gusto..

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Clave. Enjoyed a great Fuente on the drive home.

Just took delivery from London of a dozen Opus X’s, and a box of Romeo and Julietta’s. Came right through customs marked "cigars". Now if I just had a damn trip to a stream to smoke a few.

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Just took delivery from London of a dozen Opus X’s, and a box of Romeo and Julietta’s. Came right through customs marked "cigars". Now if I just had a damn trip to a stream to smoke a few.

  I’ll bet Charlie and I could fix you up with more streams than you could imagine.  That is, of course, as long as you bring along your latest shipment:) What about it Charlie?  Wanna split some X’s and R&J’s? Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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  I’ll bet Charlie and I could fix you up with more streams than you could imagine.  That is, of course, as long as you bring along your latest shipment:)

Perhaps you might better explain "fix you up". Where I come from it means you are either about to have a blind date with the ugliest girl in the county or you had better not bend over without looking back first. But ifin I can get out of a fundraising committment I have this weekend by just writing a check instead, then some of them ceegars should be parked on the South Platte this weekend. I think I might make the Penns thingie for a couple of days at least and I need a little practice, if only I can make sure I can get the fly onto the water. Wayne

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Perhaps you might better explain "fix you up". Where I come from it means you are either about to have a blind date with the ugliest girl in the county or you had better not bend over without looking back first.

  She wouldn’t be that ugly.  Trust us. But ifin I can get out of a fundraising committment I have this weekend by just writing a check instead, then some of them ceegars should be parked on the South Platte this weekend. I think I might make the Penns thingie for a couple of days at least and I need a little practice, if only I can make sure I can get the fly onto the water.

  Ummm.  South Platte is a long way for me to go to fish or smoke a cigar.  I guess I’ll just have to stay home and smoke one or two of my maduro Double Chateau Fuente’s:) Snoop — —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups – 16 Different Servers! =—–

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This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne).   So tell us about the seminar. Snoop

Friday was a combination of casting demos, tying demos, and presentations on fishing tactics. All of the tying demos took place in the student union lobby; Jack Dennis would tie for an hour, then Mike Lawson for another hour and so on. While one was in the lobby tying flies, the other would either be outside casting or else upstairs giving a fishing seminar. Saturday morning was more of the same. The most memorable parts for me were Jack’s seminar on streamer fishing (consisting largely of video footage of trout eating mice, frogs, and baitfish. gotta get a copy of that.), and getting enough pointers from Lawson on tying the no-hackle to actually start tying them myself. The Colorado Delegation arrived too late for the streamer video, but just in time for the panel discussion on instream flows. Not as entertaining as watching trout eat live mice, but still very worthwhile. The Saturday night banquet was very nice. Good food, good company, and lots of raffle loot. Jack and Mike hosted an excellent presentation on fly fishing literature to dedicate the establishment of the Gary LaFontaine Book Collection at UW’s Centennial Museum. This collection will complement the Toppan Collection, which has been a feature of every symposium we’ve held, and one of Gary LaFontaine’s favorite attractions during his visits here. The new collection is off to a good start, with donations from Jack Dennis, Stan Bradshaw, John Gierach, and many others. Finally, it was time to go home, so we all did. The next morning the organizers had planned (as usual) to go on a float trip to celebrate, but weather intervened and Sunday mornings festivities consisted of an early morning drive down a long narrow road, standing around in a parking lot talking about how windy it was today and where we planned to fish later in the season, followed by a midday trip back home on that same road, only with stronger crosswinds. All in all, a nice weekend; only 12 months until the next one. Jack will be here, as always, probably Randall Kauffman too, and a large number of flyfishing books from Australia for the collection. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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That streamer footage is awesome. Saw it in Wichita in Feb.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne).   So tell us about the seminar. Snoop Friday was a combination of casting demos, tying demos, and presentations on fishing tactics. All of the tying demos took place in the student union lobby; Jack Dennis would tie for an hour, then Mike Lawson for another hour and so on. While one was in the lobby tying flies, the other would either be outside casting or else upstairs giving a fishing seminar. Saturday morning was more of the same. The most memorable parts for me were Jack’s seminar on streamer fishing (consisting largely of video footage of trout eating mice, frogs, and baitfish. gotta get a copy of that.), and getting enough pointers from Lawson on tying the no-hackle to actually start tying them myself. The Colorado Delegation arrived too late for the streamer video, but just in time for the panel discussion on instream flows. Not as entertaining as watching trout eat live mice, but still very worthwhile. The Saturday night banquet was very nice. Good food, good company, and lots of raffle loot. Jack and Mike hosted an excellent presentation on fly fishing literature to dedicate the establishment of the Gary LaFontaine Book Collection at UW’s Centennial Museum. This collection will complement the Toppan Collection, which has been a feature of every symposium we’ve held, and one of Gary LaFontaine’s favorite attractions during his visits here. The new collection is off to a good start, with donations from Jack Dennis, Stan Bradshaw, John Gierach, and many others. Finally, it was time to go home, so we all did. The next morning the organizers had planned (as usual) to go on a float trip to celebrate, but weather intervened and Sunday mornings festivities consisted of an early morning drive down a long narrow road, standing around in a parking lot talking about how windy it was today and where we planned to fish later in the season, followed by a midday trip back home on that same road, only with stronger crosswinds. All in all, a nice weekend; only 12 months until the next one. Jack will be here, as always, probably Randall Kauffman too, and a large number of flyfishing books from Australia for the collection. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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This Friday and Saturday, Jack Dennis and Mike Lawson will be at the University of Wyoming (in Laramie, about 50 miles east of Cheyenne). There will be tying and casting demos, along with other presentations on both fishing and conservation issues. There is a banquet and raffle on Saturday night ($20 per person); everything else is free. Things get started at 9AM both days, and all events will take place in the Wyoming Student Union, except for a reception on Friday at the Toppan Angling Books Collection, which will take place at the American Heritage Center. For further information call the Wyoming Union Ticket Office at 307-766-3160, or contact me by email (after de-munging the addy. This event is sponsored by the University Flycasters and the Wyoming Student Chapter of the American Fisheries Society. This is the seventh one of these we’ve done, and they’re always a good time. Make it if you can. — Rusty Hook Laramie, Wyoming

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Thanks for the tip! If you had my "host" you would understand why. When I tried the link in my signature it worked and BTW: the site has nothing to do with flyfishing (unless you like fishing for dogs, but how does one manage to tie a bone-streamer or something like that) — Hans van der Stroom http://home.wanadoo.nl/stroomh ICQ 20196762 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For what it’s worth my favourite fly for Perch: Hook: TMC 5263 – #’s 8-10 or any other long-shanked hook Tail: bunch of black marabou or Polar Fox body (I prefer this) Body (rear half): flat silvertinsel with fluo red Lazer Wrap over Body (front half): black dubbing with large black hackle wound through Welcome back.  Your personal website seems to be non-functional at the moment. Mu

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Thanks for the tip! If you had my "host" you would understand why.

I do understand – wanadoo seems to spend most of its  money on advertising  Though that might be understandable.  AOL spent the first ten years of its existence as a junk mail company. Mu

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Is this a similar concept to some "superiors" considering themselves "Fly-Dressers" while other less mortals are only "flytiers"? Clark

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – <SNIP but not bait fishing. As it happens, I also invariably fish for them with flies, only very occasionally with bait nowadays, and sometimes using other methods. However, it is better to know as much as possible about one

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Finally hauled the boat down to Manor Lake yesterday, met my partner at 6 AM, and backed down the ramp & started the big motor.  It was its usually cranky self, taking several stalls & restarts to get rumbling.  Backed it off the trailer & then it stalled again…never to restart on this day again .  Oh well, so I dropped the troller & went fishing.  Caught 6 kinds of fish, including my first dozen bass of the season (up to 3#) on 3 & 5" Husky Jerks.  But the motor thing definately put a damper on this beautiful day. The fly wheel spins, though it doies sound alittle rougher than usual.  It was suggested to me that the plugs were probably just fouled, what do you guys think?  Oh yea, when I pulled out (no fun w/o the big engine) & lowered the motor for it to drain, some dark gas (smelled like gas anyway) can out of the prop.  HELP! Warren

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Sounds like bad gas, and you flooded the motor.  may be a bad needle valve in the carb, or junk sticking the valve. Bill

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Finally hauled the boat down to Manor Lake yesterday, met my partner at 6 AM, and backed down the ramp & started the big motor.  It was its usually cranky self, taking several stalls & restarts to get rumbling.  Backed it off the trailer & then it stalled again…never to restart on this day again .  Oh well, so I dropped the troller & went fishing.  Caught 6 kinds of fish, including my first dozen bass of the season (up to 3#) on 3 & 5" Husky Jerks.  But the motor thing definately put a damper on this beautiful day. The fly wheel spins, though it doies sound alittle rougher than usual.  It was suggested to me that the plugs were probably just fouled, what do you guys think?  Oh yea, when I pulled out (no fun w/o the big engine) & lowered the motor for it to drain, some dark gas (smelled like gas anyway) can out of the prop.  HELP! Warren

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Sounds like you’ll be riding in the back of my boat Warren…..

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Warren it could have been worse…..you could have a mashed up baby finger! Still better than me!!  My water is still hard and closed!   Humph! —                             Steve from Stony

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Sounds like you’ll be riding in the back of my boat Warren…..

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After de-winterizing your big motor, why wouldn’t you put on the water muffs and fire that big bad girl up to just to get her juices flowing again and to see if you needed to change those plugs?  Hate it when the engines gives me a hard time at the launch.  But we have all been there at least once in our lives! Hope everything is minor! — Craig

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        Yep….You flooded her out, Warren. And why didn’t you change the plugs!? I put fresh ones in at the start of every season, and keep last years’ (after cleaning and re-gapping, if need be) for spares in the boat at all times….         You can attempt to spray carb cleaner down the throats of the carbs once you DO have it running in your driveway with the water muffs on it, and see if you can clear them out a bit. You may need starting fluid to get her to light off, tho.          Starting fluid is another useful thing to carry, so that if you flood an engine out, you can dry the cylinders out with it, as well as plugs. A squirt in each cylinder, motor it over to blow out the gas/starting fluid, insert fresh plugs (or dried out ones) and fire it up….         When was the last time you did a carb cleaning/overhaul? For optimum performance, I’d recommend one every 3-5 years. All it takes to melt a hole in one of your pistons is to have a bit of debris/gunk in the carb, get it stuck in the main jet, and lean the cylinder out at max power…. been there, done that….. baaaaad craziness.         B3– Robert E. Longshore

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I hear ya, in retrospect I should have….AH!  The hell with it Craig.  I had a stiffy to get out there, and I know you’ve been there! Warren

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – After de-winterizing your big motor, why wouldn’t you put on the water muffs and fire that big bad girl up to just to get her juices flowing again and to see if you needed to change those plugs?  Hate it when the engines gives me a hard time at the launch.  But we have all been there at least once in our lives! Hope everything is minor! — Craig

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You’re a good pal Bob, THANKS.  You do realize that it BETTER start when I change those plugs.  My boat’s going into its 4th year, never had the carbs cleaned.  Didn’t know I had to to be honest.  Any recommendations for spark plugs? Warren – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –         Yep….You flooded her out, Warren. And why didn’t you change the plugs!? I put fresh ones in at the start of every season, and keep last years’ (after cleaning and re-gapping, if need be) for spares in the boat at all times….         You can attempt to spray carb cleaner down the throats of the carbs once you DO have it running in your driveway with the water muffs on it, and see if you can clear them out a bit. You may need starting fluid to get her to light off, tho.          Starting fluid is another useful thing to carry, so that if you flood an engine out, you can dry the cylinders out with it, as well as plugs. A squirt in each cylinder, motor it over to blow out the gas/starting fluid, insert fresh plugs (or dried out ones) and fire it up….         When was the last time you did a carb cleaning/overhaul? For optimum performance, I’d recommend one every 3-5 years. All it takes to melt a hole in one of your pistons is to have a bit of debris/gunk in the carb, get it stuck in the main jet, and lean the cylinder out at max power…. been there, done that….. baaaaad craziness.         B3– Robert E. Longshore

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I knew you guys’d get me smiling… W2 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Warren it could have been worse…..you could have a mashed up baby finger! Still better than me!!  My water is still hard and closed!   Humph! —                             Steve from Stony Sounds like you’ll be riding in the back of my boat Warren…..

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Northern Colorado is a pretty big area, Are you coming from Ft. Collins or Steamboat or Rangely or what? The Poudre or Big Thomson rivers are good. A sixteen incher is a trophy and 12" is more common but there are a lot of them.  If you are going into the North Park area the North Platte river can be great and so can Delaney Buttes or Lake John. Small streams will also be good, you need to be more specific though, like I said it is a big area. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Try the White river near Meeker. The largest rainbow I ever hooked was near downtown Meeker. Good luck. Could someone recomend a good trout stream or lake in the northern part of Colorado around the last part of this month?

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Going west out of Fort Collins – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Northern Colorado is a pretty big area, Are you coming from Ft. Collins or Steamboat or Rangely or what? The Poudre or Big Thomson rivers are good. A sixteen incher is a trophy and 12" is more common but there are a lot of them.  If you are going into the North Park area the North Platte river can be great and so can Delaney Buttes or Lake John. Small streams will also be good, you need to be more specific though, like I said it is a big area. Try the White river near Meeker. The largest rainbow I ever hooked was near downtown Meeker. Good luck. Could someone recomend a good trout stream or lake in the northern part of Colorado around the last part of this month?

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Try the White river near Meeker. The largest rainbow I ever hooked was near downtown Meeker. Good luck. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Could someone recomend a good trout stream or lake in the northern part of Colorado around the last part of this month?

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Could someone recomend a good trout stream or lake in the northern part of Colorado around the last part of this month?

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What can I expect in the way of fly fishing, the middle to last part of Sept. on the Poude river??

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September and October are my favorite months. No tourists, low clear water.  Be prepared to fish small stuff 18 and below. Cloudy days bring out some size 20 mayflies and midges are always on the menu. Weather throughout September is generally good. Have you fished the Poudre? Willi – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – What can I expect in the way of fly fishing, the middle to last part of Sept. on the Poude river??

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I am planning a camping/Flyfishing trip to Colorado in July and am looking for suggestions on which region is the best and also need info on specific sights. Please e-mail your response if possible. Thanks Craig Cottrell

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I am planning a camping/Flyfishing trip to Colorado in July and am looking for suggestions on which region is the best and also need info on specific sights. Please e-mail your response if possible. Thanks Craig Cottrell

It’s a pretty big state. — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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I am planning a camping/Flyfishing trip to Colorado in July and am looking for suggestions on which region is the best and also need info on specific sights. Please e-mail your response if possible. Thanks Moe Skeeter writes: It’s a pretty big state.

The Rocky Mountains are the best. CQ

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I am planning a camping/Flyfishing trip to Colorado in July and am looking for suggestions on which region is the best and also need info on specific sights. Please e-mail your response if possible. Thanks Moe Skeeter writes: It’s a pretty big state. The Rocky Mountains are the best.

Good point. Try them. — TimW Halfordian Golfer

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: I am planning a camping/Flyfishing trip to Colorado in July and am : looking for suggestions on which region is the best and also need : info on specific sights. Please e-mail your response if possible. : Thanks : Moe Skeeter writes: : It’s a pretty big state. : The Rocky Mountains are the best. : Good point. Try them. Start in the south and work your way north, please. — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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I was Fishing in a gale today and put a cut in my sinking line with the hook. Has anyone had any success in repairing damaged lines? I have seen a product called Fly Fishing Glue on sale from Sportfish, has anyone ever used this with any success? or do I have to cough up for a new Line and learn to cast in a gale. Mick Hendry (Sheffield)

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   Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing.fly    I was Fishing in a gale today and put a cut in my sinking line with    the hook.    Has anyone had any success in repairing damaged lines?    I have seen a product called Fly Fishing Glue on sale from Sportfish,    has anyone ever used this with any success?    or do I have to cough up for a new Line and learn to cast in a gale.    Mick Hendry (Sheffield) I’ve done this by covering the problem with a piece of braided mono (like they use for those commercial loops) and then coating that with some aquaseal thinned with cotol.  This works well as long as the integrity of the core (the line’s actual strength) is not compromised. If you thin the aquaseal, you get a nice low-profile patch that doesn’t bother when casting – you could probably get by even skipping the braided mono "graft" and just use some thinned aquaseal. I make a lot of loops for sink tips etc. so I have spools of this braided stuff in 30 and 50#.  If you need, I could send you some pieces.  Otherwise, you ought to be able to find some at your local shop.  The stuff I have is made by cortland. cheers,         -tgades — Tony Gades. Seattle, WA.  USA http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades http://weber.u.washington.edu/~tgades/Fishing/fish_page.html email: replace the "this_address_is_wrong" with "tgades"

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As long as the hole isn’t too large, just put a drop of Zap-A-Gap in it and you won’t even know it was there and should still be much stronger that any tippet you will be using.  I do this all the time when I splice my new tapered leaders to my fly lines. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I was Fishing in a gale today and put a cut in my sinking line with the hook. Has anyone had any success in repairing damaged lines? I have seen a product called Fly Fishing Glue on sale from Sportfish, has anyone ever used this with any success? or do I have to cough up for a new Line and learn to cast in a gale. Mick Hendry (Sheffield)

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I was Fishing in a gale today and put a cut in my sinking line with the hook. Has anyone had any success in repairing damaged lines? I have seen a product called Fly Fishing Glue on sale from Sportfish, has anyone ever used this with any success? or do I have to cough up for a new Line and learn to cast in a gale. Mick Hendry (Sheffield)

Hi Mike, If the cut is not too big, a little bit of Dave’s Flexament will do the trick.  After trying the flexament fix, roll a loop across the juncture to make sure it doesn’t hinge. A few years back I cut a new line in half when it was washed under the rocks at my feet  while striper fishing from a rocky shore in San Francisco Bay. Didn’t realize there were barnacles on the underside of the rock until it had cut my line in half.  Flexament won’t fix that, but a splice might.                                 Good Luck,                                       Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

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I’ve had temporary success with dabbing a bit of glue in the cut –  I am now trying aquaseal – previously simple vinyl repair cement offered a fix for a few months. You can also splice together sections if the core is broken or damaged by a number of techniques – the favourite of many being to draw the core of one end into the centre of the other – you’s need to insert a needle up the core of one section ( about one inch) strip and thin the core of the other about (6 inches stripped, fry and trim the centre of 2 inches of the end). Use the needle to draw a loop of mono into the core of the unstripped end and use the loop to draw the stripped core into the core of the other end. Apply a little glue to the exposed core before drawing it tight and let it set up. It’s hard as hell to do but it works. There are other splices such as the sewn splice and the crotch splice but these leave a discontinuity in the line many do not like. I was Fishing in a gale today and put a cut in my sinking line with the hook. Has anyone had any success in repairing damaged lines? I have seen a product called Fly Fishing Glue on sale from Sportfish, has anyone ever used this with any success? or do I have to cough up for a new Line and learn to cast in a gale. Mick Hendry (Sheffield)

Ralph H "…      the sabbath rang slowly      in the pebbles of the holy streams!" Dylan Thomas, "Fern Hill"

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other about (6 inches stripped, fry

                                 ^^^       should say fray ^and trim the centre of 2 inches of the end). Use the needle to draw a loop of mono into the core of the unstripped end and use the loop to draw the stripped core into the core of the other end. Apply a little glue to the exposed core before drawing it tight and let it set up. It’s hard as hell to do but it works. Ralph H "…      the sabbath rang slowly     in the pebbles of the holy streams!" Dylan Thomas, "Fern Hill"

Ralph H "…      the sabbath rang slowly      in the pebbles of the holy streams!" Dylan Thomas, "Fern Hill"

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That should be a great time to fish the ‘Horn and it’s not that far of a drive from Denver.

Out west, "not that far of a drive" means you can get there in a day. The Bighorn is at least an 8 hour drive from Denver, probably closer to 10.  It’s a fine river, but a 3 day trip would mean 2 long days of driving for a single day of fishing, on a river where wade access is VERY limited. Also, the Bighorn doesn’t have a true "runoff" period, but the flows can and do go up considerably during May and June, making it that much harder to wade. Any decent fly (or tackle) shop in Denver should be able to direct you to something much closer.  There are plenty of lakes and tailwaters a couple hours’ away from Denver that should be fine. CQ

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That should be a great time to fish the ‘Horn and it’s not that far of a drive from Denver. I will be in Denver May 20th for 5 days,  where could I drive to for fishing not blown out by run off.  Any ideas??? You’ll need a very fast car to get you up to Montana and back and to throw in some fishing if ya only have 5 days…nearest fishing in MT would be the Big Horn..and it might not be "blown out"

– Brian D. Nelson, Missoula, Montana Montana Flyfishing and Hunting Outfitter http://www.montana.com/dno/dno.htm http://www.montana.com/dno/hunt.htm

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: I will be in Denver May 20th for 5 days,  where could I drive to for : fishing not blown out by run off.  Any ideas??? The southern hemisphere? — Rick T. Rick Fletcher   –   http://www.chem.uidaho.edu/~fletcher/ Associate professor of chemistry  |  That’s Idaho, not Iowa.    | ad hominem University of Idaho               |  Upper Left Hand Corner.    | ad hominem Moscow, ID 83844-2343             |  No, I don’t grow potatoes. | ad hominem

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: I will be in Denver May 20th for 5 days,  where could I drive to for : fishing not blown out by run off.  Any ideas???

Go to the Platte River Cemetery at Deckers which is Tailwater below the dam.  There is also South Park.  Better you than me.  I hope you have a good time. Mr. G.

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I will be in Denver May 20th for 5 days,  where could I drive to for fishing not blown out by run off.  Any ideas???

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I will be in Denver May 20th for 5 days,  where could I drive to for fishing not blown out by run off.  Any ideas???

You’ll need a very fast car to get you up to Montana and back and to throw in some fishing if ya only have 5 days…nearest fishing in MT would be the Big Horn..and it might not be "blown out"

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Any suggestions for where to find flyfishing sites on the worldwide web? Is this in a fishing FAQ?  If so where is it?                  /                 /                                            John Woodling              o/                                             Sacramento, CA              /                                                                <     <

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Any suggestions for where to find flyfishing sites on the worldwide web? Is this in a fishing FAQ?  If so where is it?

I keep a fly fishing web page mostly dedicated to the state of Arizona, but also with some more general information, including a long list of links to other pages.  I hope this helps. John Shannon Fly Fishing in Arizona http://www.indirect.com/user/jshannon

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Any suggestions for where to find flyfishing sites on the worldwide

web? For starters, try  http://www.geo.mtu.edu/~jsuchosk/fish/fishpage This has a lot of hypertext leads to other places.  It’ll keep you surfing until the green drakes hatch.                                           Catch and release,                                                              Phil Holt

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: Any suggestions for where to find flyfishing sites on the worldwide web? : Is this in a fishing FAQ?  If so where is it? :     Hi- FAQ URL: http://www.geo.mtu.edu:80/~jsuchosk/fish/all-faqs.html List of flyfishing web sites (and fishing sites in general): http://www.gorp.com/gorp/activity/fishing.htm Hope this helps, Diane

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