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Is a steelhead a rainbow trout?

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Hi, I’m new to fresh water fishing. I have a dumb question. Isn’t a steel head just a rainbow trout that has left the river or stream for a larger body of water? Isn’t it the same species? Tony

–What area or state are you fishing in? Are you going to target steelhead? If so, let me know what type of gear, fly, bait or lures…I’ll give you some tips that may help you. Sharp Hooks, Pat Holdzit Fishing Products Inc. http://www.holdzit.com Before you buy.

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Isn’t a steel head just a rainbow trout that has left the river or stream for a larger body of water? Isn’t it the same species?

yes – and it returns to the stream it was hatched to spawn just like salmon, I think. Ronnie http://fishing.about.com

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Hi, I’m new to fresh water fishing. I have a dumb question. Isn’t a steel head just a rainbow trout that has left the river or stream for a larger body of water? Isn’t it the same species? Tony

Pretty much. There are different strains though. What makes them different is what water shed they are from. Jay

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I am curious where you came up with the notion that a rainbow is not a trout. A rainbow is a trout is a salmonid.. And a steelhead is a sea run rainbow. Now a brook trout isn’t a trout, but a char. A lake trout is a char….. V.B.

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Actually several years ago, they reclassified the rainbow as a member of the pacific salmon family so the genus went from Salmo to Onchorynchus (sp?) Tim

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ive caught them from 6" to 20 lbs

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Hi, I’m new to fresh water fishing. I have a dumb question. Isn’t a steel head just a rainbow trout that has left the river or stream for a larger body of water? Isn’t it the same species? Tony

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Rainbows are not true trout but actually are Salmonids,Oncorhynchus Mykiss. And yes the Steelhead is the Anadromous-Sea Going-variant of the Rainbow. This is all old news,do a search of this subject on www.anglingbc.com it’s been hashed over a number of times. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi, I’m new to fresh water fishing. I have a dumb question. Isn’t a steel head just a rainbow trout that has left the river or stream for a larger body of water? Isn’t it the same species? Tony Yes —

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Hi, I’m new to fresh water fishing. I have a dumb question. Isn’t a steel head just a rainbow trout that has left the river or stream for a larger body of water? Isn’t it the same species? Tony

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Flyfishing » Harker's Island questions

Harker's Island questions

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I didn’t see your original post so I don’tknow what your original questions were but I am pretty sure I can help you. — Capt Gordon Churchill http://www.flyfish-nc.com Guided flyfishing on the Roanoke River and the Crystal Coast of NC out of Atlantic Beach/Morhead City/Beaufort.

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THanks for the reply. My wife and I are coming to Harkers Island in late October for 2 days of Albie fishing with Sarah Gardner. We plan to come a day early and spend a day seeing the sights, fishing from shore, visiting tackle shops, etc. My question was asking about places to fish, sights to see, and generally what to do in the area. We have a 4×4. Any info will be terrific! Peter G. Aitken I didn’t see your original post so I don’tknow what your original questions were but I am pretty sure I can help you. — Capt Gordon Churchill http://www.flyfish-nc.com Guided flyfishing on the Roanoke River and the Crystal Coast of NC out of

Atlantic Beach/Morhead City/Beaufort.

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Thanks so much, Tony. We are heading down on Oct 23 so we still have time to plan. Any other info you can send will be terrific. Peter

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Peter, I go to Harker’s Island every November for the ‘albert fishing and can offer some suggestions. 1. Places to eat: I always try the locally owned establishments. The Crab’s Claw and Sanitary Fish Market immediately come to mind. 2. All of the Core Banks is open to 4 wheel drive traffic, though you will have take one of the private commerical ferries over. I believe it cost me $120 for the vehicle and 2 people (round trip). Also there are a couple of services that will take you via boat to Core Banks (and I believe Shackleford Banks, wild horses on this one), for a small fee, maybe $25 or so. I know that one operates out of Harkers Island Marina. This would allow you to walk the beaches, fish and then be picked up in the afternoon. And I think the Park Service may operate one as well. I would also suggest you contact the guide or charter service you will be using, I’m sure they can provide you all of the information you need. I may be able to locate some of the info I originally dug up a few years ago when I started going there, if so I’ll let you know. Tony Minnick

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My wife and I will be doing a couple of days of charter fishing at Harker’s Island in late October. We have never been there and have some questions. 1. Recommendations on places to stay – or to avoid. 2. Restaurants. 3. We are considering going a day early to see the sights and do some from-the-shore fishing. What possibilities exist for this kind of fishing (either fly or surf casting)? Are there beaches that are open to trucks? Any and all information welcomed. THanks, Peter G. Aitken

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Check with Gordon Churchill at http://www.flyfish-nc.com. Tom — Tom Brown Wake Forest, NC When trouble arises and things look bad, there is always one individual who perceives a solution and is willing to take command. Very often, that person is crazy. …..Dave Barry – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife and I will be doing a couple of days of charter fishing at Harker’s Island in late October. We have never been there and have some questions. 1. Recommendations on places to stay – or to avoid. 2. Restaurants. 3. We are considering going a day early to see the sights and do some from-the-shore fishing. What possibilities exist for this kind of fishing (either fly or surf casting)? Are there beaches that are open to trucks? Any and all information welcomed. THanks, Peter G. Aitken

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Peter, I go to Harker’s Island every November for the ‘albert fishing and can offer some suggestions. 1. Places to eat: I always try the locally owned establishments. The Crab’s Claw and Sanitary Fish Market immediately come to mind. 2. All of the Core Banks is open to 4 wheel drive traffic, though you will have take one of the private commerical ferries over. I believe it cost me $120 for the vehicle and 2 people (round trip). Also there are a couple of services that will take you via boat to Core Banks (and I believe Shackleford Banks, wild horses on this one), for a small fee, maybe $25 or so. I know that one operates out of Harkers Island Marina. This would allow you to walk the beaches, fish and then be picked up in the afternoon. And I think the Park Service may operate one as well. I would also suggest you contact the guide or charter service you will be using, I’m sure they can provide you all of the information you need. I may be able to locate some of the info I originally dug up a few years ago when I started going there, if so I’ll let you know. Tony Minnick

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fish » Harrison, Faulkner, & Miller (MAAL)

Harrison, Faulkner, & Miller (MAAL)

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"In alphabetical order …. " You might want to check your order. Allan

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In alphabetical order, I think a new law firm should be set up in Montana by three such men that need a change in life and a serious move into happy trout country. I.E. "HARRISON, FAULKNER & MILLER" the Legal Maulers of Montana would have a thriving practice and they could fly fish every lunch hour if they so choose. I would even donate my services in exchange for theirs. It would certainly be of equal value! Billings Montana is a serious location including, Helena and Missoula or even Hamilton Montana. I only wonder how good they would look in a Western Stetson? Of course they may always try Jackson Hole and compete with Jerry Spence! CSG (chuckle, sneer, grin!) Mr. G. — http://www.gink.com/chat

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"In alphabetical order …. " You might want to check your order. Allan

; ) Mr. G. GOTCHA! — http://www.gink.com/chat

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; ) Mr. G. GOTCHA!

See how often the gnome will dip into the same sorry little bag to cover his lame ass? GOTCHERSELF!!

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See how often the gnome will dip into the same sorry little bag to cover his lame ass? GOTCHERSELF!!

______ Your breeding is showing. Sad. Mr. G. — http://www.gink.com/chat

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Wolfgang writes: ; ) Mr. G. GOTCHA! See how often the gnome will dip into the same sorry little bag to cover his lame ass? GOTCHERSELF!!

Bwwwhahahahahaha. ROFLEO. So very, very true, Wolf. The twits of this world will never change. d;0) Dave L.

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Whooops! Guess I rose to the bait …. er, fly.

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"In alphabetical order …. " You might want to check your order.

things ain’t always rational in Bizarro world. Myxtplk

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You ought to be careful here George, somebody who uses the word bastard as often as you do, not to mention all the other choice language you occasionally come out with, really should refrain from comment on breeding. I fear you may know how it occurs, but not what it means. — "In order to achieve what is possible, one must constantly attempt the impossible" http://www.mikeconnor.de – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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_______ Gee Mike, that term was not used by me in THIS thread, but I see your point and you’re right. I do know, as a matter of fact, what you mean for I may have sired all the bottom dwellers here. I guess some of us have a talent for such things but look at the fun they’re having!? I will refrain from commenting on what you have aptly pointed out in the future. What would I do without you Mike? You’re a great guy who is always looking after me. I am a blessed man, Your pal, George Gehrke Beware! Do not feed the Bottom Dwellers! — http://www.gink.com

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I suppose I ought to comment on this thread even though I don’t know why. Well, I sure as hell wouldn’t mind practicing with these guys, particularly in Montana. Although we’d all be working the overnight shift at Ole’s so we could fish all day, so the law degree becomes superfilous anyway. Mark Faulkner – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Rod » Canoe or Kayak Recommendation

Canoe or Kayak Recommendation

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Standing up in a canoe is like anything else. Doing it right requires practice. I’ve done it but I don’t like to stand in a canoe. When I was looking for the boat I have now, a kayak, I received many recommendations saying that I should get a canoe. The main point was that I could pole a WW canoe up a shallow run when, with a kayak, I’d have to get out and wade. They had a good point and I have had to wade some chutes that I could have poled a boat up. However, my kayak offers many advantages for a solo paddler and I normally use it for transportation to a place and then I get out and do whatever I’m going to do. Bob — —– Bob Perkins, Director of Institutional Research and Planning Methodist College Fayetteville, NC 28311 Office: 910-630-7037

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I am considering purchasing a canoe or kayak for quick trips to the lakes, rivers and bays for fly fishing and recreation around Houston. Most of the time I will be fishing alone, but would like to take my son or another friend at times. Day trips only, no overnight or long journeys anticipated. Suggestions as to canoe vs kayak and other details would be appreciated. Size, composition, design, etc. would all be helpful.

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at 58 pounds, 38 inches wide with a pretty flat bottom (flattened arch is what the brochure calls it) which gives it enough initial stability that you can actually stand up in it to cast, though I don’t very often. It’s built with resin impregnated cherry wood ribs and a fiberglass skin. It’s quite pretty to look at if that’s important to you…about $900. It’s not designed for white water but handles very nicely on lakes and slower moving water with one or two anglers aboard. E-mail me if you have any questions…We-No-Nah makes a canoe with similar configuration, size and weight. No wood but it’s about $150 cheaper, and they also make a good canoe. Happy hunting. Dean Henry

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: I am considering purchasing a canoe or kayak for quick trips to the lakes, rivers and bays for I’ve never owned or tried a kayak, but my guess is they would not be a comfortable general-purpose fishing platform. I used to own a 12ft canoe that was absolutley great alone, but really could not handle two people. For two, I wouldn’t go smaller than 15ft. We have an Old Town Discovery 15"8", and like it alot. I handle it alone (car-top) always, and I’m a small guy; its 80lbs, but if you’re willing to spend more you can get much lighter canoes. Just go to a shop and pick up all the canoe maker’s sales booklets. These will explain different hull shapes, etc., and I think you’ll see what you want pretty quickly. If not, then talk to a salesperson. I don’t know how much time you’ve spent in boats or in canoes, but if you have no experience, you might find canoes a bit nervous. I think some people get used to it and some don’t; I’m not sure you can ever tell ahead of time. Just gotta try it, I guess. good luck, Jon Cook.

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Canoe probably your best bet. Its only draw back is the extra weight. I have a poke boat which is a semi covered deck, very light, kayak like boat. Its great for getting around, but forget even kneeling in it. In a canoe you could, with care, stand to cast. I. Clair

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I second the Aquaterra Keowee. I bought the single seat model early this year and I love it. It’s actually a pretty good fly fishing platform, but I use it mostly for getting to where I want to fish and then wading if possible. It’s stable, lightweight, and floats in anything, but you have to sit in it, no kneeling. Doug

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David, I e-mailed you the other day, but I think I forgot to send it. Duhh! Anyway, I’ll repeat what I wrote and you can ignore this if I did send. If you are planning to take two kids along you will need a canoe. It is challenging for three people to fly fish from a canoe. You’ll have to take turns casting. If you want to have a real blast fishing solo, try a Keowee. It is a 9 foot long, 30-40 pound heavy duty plastic molded recreational kayak. No whitewater for this baby, but it is great for poking around in places that even a canoe can’t easily get into and out of. It has just enough room for a small amount of gear and is very stable – not `tippy’ like most kayaks. Once you are in, it is nearly untippable. It takes a wee while to get used to getting in and out – not a easy as a canoe – but I love mine. My fishing friend and I each have one and we just pop them on the roof racks and off we go. They are made in the U.S. by a company called Aguaterra. They make many models, so specify the Keowee. It comes in several colours, including camo I think, and costs about $300 US. I think LL Bean sells it and maybe even Eddy Bauer. I bought mine in Maine from Maine Sport near Camden. I’ve also seen it in Kittery Maine at a large outfitter (can’t remember the name) and at the LLBean store in Freeport, Maine. In New Hampshire I have seen it in Littleton at the LaHouts Sports Store. I believe I’ve seen it in the LLBean catalog. I also use a canoe sometimes and own a float tube. I enjoy them all. Have fun with whatever you end up buying. Sandy

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I have something very similar – it’s a Creek Boat. It’s a one man, sit down low, fishing boat. It has a small livewell and a mounting block for a trolling motor and a foot steering system built in. Mine has oarlocks added also. Price is in the same range. It is a little lighter, but it is not indestructible. -Andy – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I second the Aquaterra Keowee. I bought the single seat model early this year and I love it. It’s actually a pretty good fly fishing platform, but I use it mostly for getting to where I want to fish and then wading if possible. It’s stable, lightweight, and floats in anything, but you have to sit in it, no kneeling.

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In a canoe you could, with care, stand to cast.

Careful here. That is sort of like saying "in an automobile you could, with care, enter the Pikes Peak road rally". You’d best not stand in a canoe with a rounded bottom and no keel, such as typical for whitewater. Pick one with a wide beam, flat or shallow vee bottom and tumblehome – wider at or just above the waterline than at the gunwales. The manufacturers offer different models for various purposes. Pick one made for fishing or cargo or family use, not whitewater or fast cruising. Mark Vinsel http://www.lanminds.com/local/vinnie/gallery.html

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – David, I e-mailed you the other day, but I think I forgot to send it. Duhh! Anyway, I’ll repeat what I wrote and you can ignore this if I did send. If you are planning to take two kids along you will need a canoe. It is challenging for three people to fly fish from a canoe. You’ll have to take turns casting. If you want to have a real blast fishing solo, try a Keowee. It is a 9 foot long, 30-40 pound heavy duty plastic molded recreational kayak. No whitewater for this baby, but it is great for poking around in places that even a canoe can’t easily get into and out of. It has just enough room for a small amount of gear and is very stable – not `tippy’ like most kayaks. Once you are in, it is nearly untippable. It takes a wee while to get used to getting in and out – not a easy as a canoe – but I love mine. My fishing friend and I each have one and we just pop them on the roof racks and off we go. They are made in the U.S. by a company called Aguaterra. They make many models, so specify the Keowee. It comes in several colours, including camo I think, and costs about $300 US. I think LL Bean sells it and maybe even Eddy Bauer. I bought mine in Maine from Maine Sport near Camden. I’ve also seen it in Kittery Maine at a large outfitter (can’t remember the name) and at the LLBean store in Freeport, Maine. In New Hampshire I have seen it in Littleton at the LaHouts Sports Store. I believe I’ve seen it in the LLBean catalog. I also use a canoe sometimes and own a float tube. I enjoy them all. Have fun with whatever you end up buying. Sandy

VISUALLY SPEAKING, from an outsider’s point of view. Visual Pollution is just as real as many other forms. I imagine, to someone of your generation, fly fishing out of a kayak, to many of us would be like seeing a whale turd in a party punch-bowl. You not only don’t like looking at it, you wouldn’t use it either. Yet, float tubes are another matter and I cannot explain to you why. Go for a canoe, my friend. nuff said. George Gehrke

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Go with a canoe. The Keowee is a nice platform, but its carrying capacity is limited. I know a guy who fishes out of a sea kayak, but he paddles 2-5 times a week and normally doesn’t fly fish. It’s theoretically possible for me to fly fish out of my Prijon Taifun (kayak), but if I’m going to fly fish I’ll use the boat to get where I’m going and then wade. Bob — —– Bob Perkins, Director of Institutional Research and Planning Methodist College Fayetteville, NC 28311 Office: 910-630-7037

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One important consideration in chosing a craft for flyfishing is comfort. I have a 16′ Greenland style kayak that I use in the ocean. I also spend some time in the surf on a sit_on_top style kayak (you wouldn’t believe how many stripers hang out in that surf). Of the two, the sit on top is probably more stable for casting and fighting fish, and is certainly a better surf boat, but it is much less efficient to paddle and for me, is very uncomfortable. The one I’ve been using, ocean kayaks ‘frenzy’, has ribs built into it to give multiple places for bracing your feet. I suppose if you are 2" shorter or taller than me it would probably be a comfortable fit, but no matter how much I adjust the seat I can’t get a comfortable fit. Thus, I can’t imagine spending a lot of time trying to cast from it. Most conventional kayaks have internal foot braces that are adjustable. So if you decide to go plastic/sit on top I’d recommend spending at least one hour sitting in the boat to see if it is comfortable for you. Casting when your legs are cramping up can be a drag. jc

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I recently went through the canoe vs. kayak dilemma and settled with a kayak–a folding kayak. Although I had wanted a platform I could stand in, the seaworthiness and the portability of the folding kayak ruled out. Obviously it’s nice to have easy access to my gear, food, etc. and even bring along someone else, but a kayak was a much better choice for me as I do most of my flyfishing is saltwater and I often travel by air to fish. The kayak I bought, a Feathercraft K Light Plus folds into a backpack and weighs only 32 pounds; it takes only 15 minutes to assemble; my rod fits under the deck bungees and I can take it out easily. The best thing is that I can take the kayak out into open ocean and not be concerned about being swamped over and I can fight a current quite easily. I’ve been in big rips and paddled right back-up the beach to my car and fished in four foot swells–no problem. In a canoe in current I’d be swept away. I’m sure I will take it to the Everglades for redfishing and the Keys and Bahamas for bonefishing just as I took it to Martha’s Vineyard for stripers, blues, and bonito. The kayak is fast, too. If getting to a destination is your objective, you will expend much less energy and have more time for fishing if you use kayak rather than a canoe. As far as casting from the kayak goes it has yet to be a problem–I just keep the backcast high–no need to stand. As far as storage goes, I keep most of what I need in a waterproof deck bag and waterproof bags in the hull. Folding kayaks are not inexpensive; but for the ability to take it wherever I want to fish, it’s worth it. Good luck, Darren Lew New York, NY

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It is actually pretty hard to tip a family/fishing type canoe. The first thing you should do is go out and tip yours on purpose (or tip a demo model before you buy). Learn how it reacts, and what it takes to tip it. Do this with two people – have one stand and the other make some sudden moves.

I used to stand up while surfing waves in my Blue Hole in my wilder days of youth ;- In my experience, in most cases the canoe stays upright when someone standing in it falls out. The canoe gets "pushed out of the way" rather than capsizing, or the person loses footing and trips trying to regain it in the confines of a canoe (most come with rather small dance floors). In a wide keeled boat, this is less likely to happen, but it still is a risk. Even small jon boats exhibit this "snatch-the-rug" behavior. The pedestals in bass boats are there largely for stability; people aren’t that good at standing in small areas without something to lean on for any length of time. Try marking off a small rectangle and stand in it casting for a while without stepping outside of it. I would plan on sitting to cast most of the time. If (big if when you are as sloppy as I am) you have a nice tight loop it doesn’t need to drop below shoulder level anyway. -Andy

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writes: Canoe probably your best bet. Its only draw back is the extra weight. I have a poke boat which is a semi covered deck, very light, kayak like boat. Its great for getting around, but forget even kneeling in it. In a canoe you could, with care, stand to cast. I. Clair

Alot depends on the canoe. I have a mad river winoski that I have no problem standing in however, the tradoff for that stabality is speed. Other models are faster than my boat some are more durable, less durable, lighter or heavier. Boats vary alot in what they are designed for, you may want to take a look at rec.boats.paddle. Also get a honest idea of what you want from a boat, then go talk to a dealer that knows boats. Canoes are canoes in the same way cars are cars, if you need a pickup you will never be satisfied with a civic. Lastly, the main item that keep me away from a Poke is I need the versitility that a canoe offers. I can carry two adults ,my lab and decoys. Yet, it is not too much boat for one person to fish from solo. Charles

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David…I would recommend a canoe based on your intended use. I currently have two We-No-Nah canoes which are incredible for their intended use, the c-1 for racing and the tandem for backcountry touring. For your use a basic Coleman or Old Town would be fine, why spend the bucks for weight savings or paddling efficiency when you can get what you need for a quarter of the cost? Since you are not going to do any major carries or long distance paddling stick with the basics. By the way if you do go with a canoe I still wouldn’t advise on standing to cast. Good luck with your decision. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am considering purchasing a canoe or kayak for quick trips to the lakes, rivers and bays for fly fishing and recreation around Houston. Most of the time I will be fishing alone, but would like to take my son or another friend at times.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – David, I e-mailed you the other day, but I think I forgot to send it. Duhh! Anyway, I’ll repeat what I wrote and you can ignore this if I did send. If you are planning to take two kids along you will need a canoe. It is challenging for three people to fly fish from a canoe. You’ll have to take turns casting. If you want to have a real blast fishing solo, try a Keowee. ……. VISUALLY SPEAKING, from an outsider’s point of view. Visual Pollution is just as real as many other forms. I imagine, to someone of your generation, fly fishing out of a kayak, to many of us would be like seeing a whale turd in a party punch-bowl. You not only don’t like looking at it, you wouldn’t use it either. Yet, float tubes are another matter and I cannot explain to you why. Go for a canoe, my friend. nuff said. George Gehrke

So far, great responses and advice, and all is appreciated. At this point, I will approach the purchase by several methods, all tempered with everyone’s input (even George’s – more later). In Houston, we have REI and Sun & Ski Sports stores, as well as others that will rent kayaks and canoes. I intend to try several. Also, I have found several kayak and canoe clubs that give demonstrations and/or lessons. Knowledge is a powerful tool, especially when so cheaply obtained! To George – I not only explained to my 9 year old son the visual nuances and social faux pax of a "whale turd in a party punch bowl", but also of some peoples’ intolerance to the lifestyles of others. Gee, I am in my mid forties with gray hair, yet you seem to believe I am some twenty year old doing an endo and scaring the trout – although whitewater kayaking is on my to-do list. Imagine the visual pollution of the first bamboo rod to a greenheart rod holder, the first fiberglass rod to a bamboo holder, the first graphite rod to a fiberglass rod holder! Is your mode of transportation a horse, a Model T, a `57 Chevy, a bicycle, a Viper, a bus??!!? Yet, ornithopters are another matter, and I cannot explain to you why, my friend. "Strive to leave for our children a better world, then they will do the same for theirs." – David Hinners

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mor sporty tho fly-fish. more fun. makes small fish seem big and makes them feel they fight harder. bait chunckers suck

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Well, bait chuckers *do suck*….but thats besides the point.

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing Reel » Help with Medalist 1494 Reel for Lefty Op.

Help with Medalist 1494 Reel for Lefty Op.

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I’m hoping someone out there can help me convert a Medalist 1494 over to work for a left-handed person. I was lead to believe it possible. The reel didn’t come with any instructions. Do I just flip over the plastic ring that the drag rubs against? The two sides have a different # of click grooves on each side but this does seem to be the only way to reverse the drag. Do I also move the line guides? If anyone was a telephone # for Pflueger/Shakespeare please post. Thanks Don B.

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Yup, just flip that litle plastic ring over and you’re in business. You can also reverse the line guide, but to me it’s a pain in the butt so I usually don’t bother (there’s always ONE little screw that won’t budge )

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Yes, just take out the two small screws (don’t lose them!), and turn over the disc. There is a spring loaded gizzy that will pop out when you remove the disc. So, lift it slowly. Turn the disc over, postion over the screw holes, and tighten. Changing the line guard is difficult, but I believe it is necessary. The guard is there for a purpose, to protect the main body of the reel, and it really doesn’t take too long. Good luck. Dave Kumlien, Montana Troutfitters Orvis Shop, Bozeman, MT

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I had tried and failed to convert my reel so I did the only reasonable thing, I went to the local fly shop and and asked for help. I’ve been fly fishing for only one year, but I have found that the fellows who run fly shops are extremely helpful. Of course, you will want to return the favor, especially if it was free, and buy a few flies — even if you don’t need any! Bob Jones

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(Spin4trout) says: I’m hoping someone out there can help me convert a Medalist 1494 over to work for a left-handed person. I was lead to believe it possible. The reel didn’t come with any instructions.

Has there been a change in the way Mealists are fabricated? I thought that the always came for left-handed people. I have always changed to right hand operation. That is, I hold the rod in my right hand for casting, line in my left hand, and when it comes to actually winding it in, doing so with my left hand. I do not switch hands between casting and winding. Way back when, Neal Taylor mentioned that, by happenstance, the first two reel makers were left handed and that is why actual left-handed reels are called right-handed. Further edification will be appreciated.

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(BillyFish) writes: Has there been a change in the way Mealists are fabricated? I thought that the always came for left-handed people. I have always changed to right hand operation. That is, I hold the rod in my right hand for casting, line in my left hand, and when it comes to actually winding it in, doing so with my left hand. I do not switch hands between casting and winding.

Right hand wind means you turn the handle with your right hand. Left hand retrieve means you retrieve with your left hand. The traditional way for a right hander to fish was to cast with the right hand, then switch the rod to the left hand and retrieve with the right hand also. Now most right handers retrieve with their left hand probably because they either spincast first. It doesn’t really matter, just different strokes for different folks. Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again. So what if they eat other fish? If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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writes: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (BillyFish) writes: Has there been a change in the way Mealists are fabricated? I thought that the always came for left-handed people. I have always changed to right hand operation. That is, I hold the rod in my right hand for casting, line in my left hand, and when it comes to actually winding it in, doing so with my left hand. I do not switch hands between casting and winding. Right hand wind means you turn the handle with your right hand. Left hand retrieve means you retrieve with your left hand. The traditional way for a right hander to fish was to cast with the right hand, then switch the rod to the left hand and retrieve with the right hand also. Now most right handers retrieve with their left hand probably because they either spincast first. It doesn’t really matter, just different strokes for different folks. Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

Thanks for the help from everyone. I should have said I had a USED reel that needed to be un-converted. Like Dan said above I got started with spinning and I don’t switch hands. Just lucky to be left-handed and glad you righties flip-flop hands. I now have the reel back to "normal". I still wonder why they made the two sides with different hole patterns? Oh, well. Life’s full of questions. Is there left-handed whirling disease? Or do all the fish swin circles in the same direction? <G PLEASE no responses to that one. Don B.

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(Spin4trout) writes: I now have the reel back to "normal". I still wonder why they made the two sides with different hole patterns?

Hey Don, The hole patterns are different because Pflueger never originally expected the reel to be converted to left hand retrieve. Left hand retrieve works ok on the converted reel, but the click sounds funny. The Japanese are manufacturing the Pflueger now and it’s one of the few things they don’t do well. Still works, but the old US models work better, albeit without an exposed rim. Dan

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » Soft Hackle

Soft Hackle

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I too started using soft hackle wet flies this year and had great success a week ago on brookies on the AuSable on an orange bodied #16. Don Donald Albrecht A bad day fishing is still better than a good day at work! < <

Soft Hackle flies can be very very deadly! I use a couple patterns: one is just like a hares ear nymph without the wingcase but with a sparse collar of partridge hackle…the other is a body of peacock herl with partridge hackle. They seem to work best when fish are chasing emerging caddis. Paul DiConza NY Capital District Angler

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I’ve been having *super* success fishing a gray soft hackle fly lately. What I do is to use a standard wet fly swing with a slow retrieve at the end. The rainbow trout in my local stream can’t resist them. Any other thoughts or possible patterns? Thanks, Bill

Lots of thoughts and lots of patterns. Try the three books by Sylvester Nemes. My favorite soft hackle is the March Brown Spider – Hare’s Ear lightly dubbed over orange thread with silver rib and brown partridge hackle. Ross Wilson

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Fly Fishing Fisherman Wiki » Fly Fishing » fishing fly

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Hello Deborah, Please repost, it was empty when I looked David Delcloo

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fly fishing group

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I am trying to get the email address for the fly fishing mailing list and instructions for getting myself added to the distribution list. Please reply to me using the address below if you have any information. Thanks in advance. -Roger. Roger S. Barga | Department of Computer Science and Engineering | Oregon Graduate Institute of Science and Technology (503) 690-1121 7308 | Portland, OR 97291-1000

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How about posting it here, too, for the rest of us… Rick

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