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Scott was supposed to come with me but he had been out partying the night before and the groaning coming from the other room, spoke to his state of incapacitation. I thought the ROFFian method says to hand him a bottle of Wild Turkey, scream ‘Drink or Die, mother f*er’, haul his butt into the fishing car and careen wildly to the river.

What can I say, I forgot.  Does this mean I have to send back my decoder ring? Peter the worried

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Scott was supposed to come with me but he had been out partying the night before … I thought the ROFFian method says to hand him a bottle of Wild Turkey, scream ‘Drink or Die, mother f*er’, haul his butt into the fishing car and careen wildly to the river.

But you’re forgetting that Scott, taking after his mother’s side of the family, is WAY too smart to be a ROFFian. — Ken Fortenberry

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Scott was supposed to come with me but he had been out partying the night before … I thought the ROFFian method says to hand him a bottle of Wild Turkey, scream ‘Drink or Die, mother f*er’, haul his butt into the fishing car and careen wildly to the river. But you’re forgetting that Scott, taking after his mother’s side of the family, is WAY too smart to be a ROFFian.

That and the fact his dad likes to keep him away from influences that will lead him into a life of debauchery.  He can find his own way.  :) Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://home.cogeco.ca/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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Scott was supposed to come with me but he had been out partying the night before and the groaning coming from the other room, spoke to his state of incapacitation.

I thought the ROFFian method says to hand him a bottle of Wild Turkey, scream ‘Drink or Die, mother f*er’, haul his butt into the fishing car and careen wildly to the river.

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Scott was supposed to come with me but he had been out partying the night before and the groaning coming from the other room, spoke to his state of incapacitation. I thought the ROFFian method says to hand him a bottle of Wild Turkey, scream ‘Drink or Die, mother f*er’, haul his butt into the fishing car and careen wildly to the river.

    ah, stan, ol’ boy, you will soon learn more than you ever wanted to know concerning the rather brusque nature of interaction techniques displayed by the subject of that little anecdote.     let’s just say that no one has ever called him "gentleman jim" roberts. your friend in the old north state wayno – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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or how to screw up your first day on the Grand and still catch some fish. Scott was supposed to come with me but he had been out partying the night before and the groaning coming from the other room, spoke to his state of incapacitation.  I had put my stuff together the night before, just before I hit the sack.  This was going to be the first Grand trip after a season of steelheading so everything had to be dragged out of drawers, closets and rearranged. Six weights seemed to be a good idea to chuck some large perch streamers at the top end of the Grand.  It had been blown out by earlier rains so I was counting on high and dirty.  In these conditions, perch get washed through the dam and the browns have a field day with them. As I drive by Cedar Run, I can see that the water is a bit high but also that it is gin clear.  Scratch plan number one. I stop at the second access point – my car is the only one (miracle) – but as I’m suiting up, two more cars arrive.  The water at the access point usually holds a few fish but if these guys tromp through it first, that’ll blow my chance at them so I hurry up.  The little 6 wt. is taken since the perch streamer idea is done like dinner. I’m using a Type 6 fullsink on it – casts OK but the little rod is working – and I start swinging a little pattern – nothing.  This is a new pattern that I hope will successfully imitate small baitfish but I don’t move a single fish.  I work downstream while the car load work upstream.  The area around Cedar Run tends not to have a lot of defined seams and runs that would appeal to the nympher – mostly composed of flats connected by riffles.  However, the gang has parked themselves in a nice nymphing spot and after about 15 minutes, a dead brown of about 12" floats by.  Later, one guy walks by and I say the I noticed he had hooked one.  He’s quite pleased to describe it but I refrain from telling him the result. Should mention that in the process of hurrying I had left behind my tippet, thermometer, camera, and a couple of fly boxes. Should also mention that it was freaking cold and I was dressed for the summer-like temperatures promised for mid day. Should also mention that I didn’t get a single hit. To hell with Cedar Run and I pack up for The Trestle.  This spot has an old rail trestle bridge that is now used by walkers – it has a beautiful view of the Grand.  Directly below the bridge, there’s some slow water that has the appearance of a warm water river, but further down, the river is split by an island and as the river rejoins, there’s a beautiful nymphing run which is now my intended target but it’s probably chock-a-block with anglers. I unwrap the 20 something year old graphite Orvis Osprey – a slow 9′ 6" six weight that I bought over eBay.  The cork is still white – the rod having seen virtually no use.  It was an impulse buy and I regretted it afterward but hell, since I have it, might as well use it.  What a little gem.  About as perfect a nymphing rod as one could want. At least when I don’t catch any fish I’ll enjoin the experience. When I get to the run, there’s no one in it despite seeing fishermen above and below me.  Are they all nuts?  On goes a #18 bead head prince nymph that I had bought at the Feathered Hook last year. Within a few minutes of my travels to the dark side, I’ve hooked and landed a sleek, fat, 15-16" brown.  She put on quite a show, charging all over the place, making the JLH sing a few times and causing the gang upstream to cast covetous glances.  Swing her into the shallows, she’s lightly hooked, lift the head and slip out the nymph and she’s on her way.  A few casts later and I’ve hooked her twin sister and landed her in the same spot.  Grand browns at this time of year are at their most feisty so even a fish of this size takes a couple of minutes to land.  A few minutes later I set the hook into a larger fish but I was overly aggressive with the hookset and when it turned I had too much pressure applied.  Snap. I don’t normally hog a run but with anglers bracketing me, I don’t have much choice.  However, these hookups will be my last.  Back to the parking lot for some of Jo’s famous sandwiches and a reassessment. Can’t believe my nymphing luck.  The first set had been totally instinctive and I had been really surprised to find a fish on.  Watch out Louie, I’m starting to get the hang of this! A quick detour to a favourite spot at Inverhaugh but it yields only the briefest of hookups and a chat with a few anglers as it also gets busy while I fish.  A guide leads two rookie clients to the water and makes a big fuss out of walking across the water well downstream of me so as not to disturb my fishing water.  Thanks.  Too bad the next gang hadn’t been around to hear the instruction.  Again three, two rookies lead by a not so rookie.  He leads them into the water to cross within five feet of me and to tromp through the water I’m fishing.  As they approach, I expect to see them angle off but they keep coming. Finally, I advise them that I’m fishing this water, would they mind crossing further down.  The look of surprise on the leader’s face told me that he hadn’t even thought of the possibility that I might be actually fishing the water! Oh well, I still caught some – on a nymph to boot. Peter Visit The Streamer Page at http://home.cogeco.ca/~pcharles/streamers/index.html

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – n’kay , great , but … how do i use it ? don’t ask me.  i never had one. dennis ICQ 71297942 Oh! somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright; The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout But there is no joy in Mudville — mighty Casey has Struck Out thanks , i’ve been whippin it all over the backyard , but i still don’t look like the guy’s on T.V. Does the lack of water spoil the picture? — "I do not know" – GlennT Learning… http://people.A2000.nl/gthomas/GlennHome.htm

you need to see my backyard

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but i never had to pitch my cue over my head , well , there was one time maybe . – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – n’kay , great , but … how do i use it ? Have you ever played pool, snooker, billiards??? Well, you line up the fly……. — Some of my colleagues think that the chemicals we are experimenting with could potentially cause brain damage, however I think that fish crunchy bits of salami my new red hippie noodle. Naked pool frogs?

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n’kay , great , but … how do i use it ?

Have you ever played pool, snooker, billiards??? Well, you line up the fly……. — Some of my colleagues think that the chemicals we are experimenting with could potentially cause brain damage, however I think that fish crunchy bits of salami my new red hippie noodle. Naked pool frogs?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ROD": n’kay , great , but … how do i use it ? First rule when learning:  wear a turtleneck.  Seriously. I tried my hand at casting a fly when I was about 10 or 12 years old, and the fly caught in my turtleneck.  Would have been pretty painful if I hadn’t been wearing it. I haven’t tried fly fishing since.  I’m more of a lame-o bait caster. T.T. — Depression is an indiscriminant forager. Drop the "glop" to reply

i’ve been practicing in the backyard , it’s not very easy .

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n’kay , great , but … how do i use it ?

If it’s a fly rod it’s too small, but it back in your pants.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – n’kay , great , but … how do i use it ? don’t ask me.  i never had one. dennis ICQ 71297942 Oh! somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright; The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout But there is no joy in Mudville — mighty Casey has Struck Out thanks , i’ve been whippin it all over the backyard , but i still don’t look like the guy’s on T.V.

Does the lack of water spoil the picture? — "I do not know" – GlennT Learning… http://people.A2000.nl/gthomas/GlennHome.htm

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n’kay , great , but … how do i use it ?

Attach a fly and stand near water containing fish. Wave it about and wait… Fish tanks are not suitable. And if you have reached the sea, you have gone too far. — "I do not know" – GlennT Learning… http://people.A2000.nl/gthomas/GlennHome.htm

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n’kay , great , but … how do i use it ? don’t ask me.  i never had one. dennis ICQ 71297942 Oh! somewhere in this favored land the sun is shining bright; The band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light And somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout But there is no joy in Mudville — mighty Casey has Struck Out

thanks , i’ve been whippin it all over the backyard , but i still don’t look like the guy’s on T.V.

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http://www.ehow.com/eHow/eHow/0%2C1053%2C13892%2C00.html http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/076455073X/102-1221305-6766523 ?

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I am going to take a few days off and head up to Colorado to teach my brother how to flyfish.  And maybe drink a little Oban or Talisker. Can someone recommend a good place to go fishing?  Thanks for any clue cookies tossed this way. bc. — Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. -Benjamin Franklin

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I fish several places when working in Denver. Always check in with the fly shop; located in Silverthorne; Cutthroat anglers; 888-876-8818; see ‘em at www.fishcolorado.com Good, knowledgable guys, Trapper, Andrew, Jimmy. I think the South Platte and Arkansas are fishing really well. Also Blue, Colorado and Williams Fork. Call the shop. They’re only an hour and 15 west of Denver. All interstate. If you speak with them, mention my name and convey my best regards to them. Tight Lines, Phil Joffe, Raleigh, NC

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<snipped Thanks for the advice Phil – I’ll visit the website and forward this information to my brother. bc. — Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. -Benjamin Franklin

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The fall is a great time for fishing the West. My wife and I do our annual regular 2 week car bum in Sept/Oct. Best time for avoiding crowds and in the NW in particular is argueably the best season. Suggest you read Ted Leason’s book for a rundown on the basics of year rounded fishing in the NW. Dave

Hey George, I don’t think David is any sort of traitor. Hell, I’ve bummed around a good part of Idaho for the last 15 years, kayaking and fishing in the summer. I’ve also been on this newsgroup since quite a while before you started posting here. I don’t post much now because I’m making my own bamboo rods and don’t intend to go the Bastard route, I’ve had my fill of the C&R debate so mainly I lurk now with an occasional comment. Hell man, I even have a bottle of Gink on my vest!! Watch out, I may even drop in on your facility unannounced one day! Cheers. Jon

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thought I’d probe you guys for a few suggestions. My wife and I are going out west in early fall to scope out some property. As part of this trip, we want to take a week for flyfishing (both are avid ff). I am looking for some suggestions as to good places to try. We have fished Montana extensively in the summer but never in the fall. We figured we could go to the Red Lodge or Bozeman area and bum around or perhaps get a guide to float the Yellowstone. Is this a good time (or even worthwhile) to float the Yellowstone (I figure around the big bend area might be best; this is one river we have never fished)? Suggestions? Our other thought is to go to Oregon. We have friends there and could combine the goals of the trip. Again, is this a decent time to go and where would you suggest? We have some free airline tickets coming up and are pretty flexible. The main thing we want to avoid is being shoulder to shoulder with a bunch of people (its OK for us to be around people, I just would prefer to avoid being in a crowd of urban maniacs going after some standard steelhead run near a metropolitan area, if you know what I mean). Anyway, all suggestions are appreciated. We are both pretty comfortable with doing exploratories and the general wilderness adventure scene. I know this request is pretty general. Its the fall season fishing that we are relatively unfamiliar with out there. Thanks for any input. Jon McAnulty

–Jon, If you have never fished the Deschutes river (Oregon) in the fall your missing one of the best rivers in the world to catch steelhead on a fly on the surface.   There will be plenty of room without many fishermen if you go in Oct.   October is when the big "B" class Idaho fish enter the river (15-25lb).   A 20lb steelhead in a fast moving river on a fly rod is a fish of a life time.   Drop me a line if you want more info. Sharp Hooks, Pat Holdzit Fishing Products Inc. http://www.holdzit.com Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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The full title is "The Habit of Rivers," (Reflections on Trout Streams and Fly Fishing), by Ted Leeson. Its literate and then some, and a useful perspective on NW fishing. Dave

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Thanks for the reply. Any title on that book? I suspect it is obvious but an exact title would help as I will probably have to order it. Thanks again. Jon

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The fall is a great time for fishing the West. My wife and I do our annual regular 2 week car bum in Sept/Oct. Best time for avoiding crowds and in the NW in particular is argueably the best season. Suggest you read Ted Leason’s book for a rundown on the basics of year rounded fishing in the NW. Dave

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thought I’d probe you guys for a few suggestions. My wife and I are going out west in early fall to scope out some property. As part of this trip, we want to take a week for flyfishing (both are avid ff). I am looking for some suggestions as to good places to try. We have fished Montana extensively in the summer but never in the fall. We figured we could go to the Red Lodge or Bozeman area and bum around or perhaps get a guide to float the Yellowstone. Is this a good time (or even worthwhile) to float the Yellowstone (I figure around the big bend area might be best; this is one river we have never fished)? Suggestions? Our other thought is to go to Oregon. We have friends there and could combine the goals of the trip. Again, is this a decent time to go and where would you suggest? We have some free airline tickets coming up and are pretty flexible. The main thing we want to avoid is being shoulder to shoulder with a bunch of people (its OK for us to be around people, I just would prefer to avoid being in a crowd of urban maniacs going after some standard steelhead run near a metropolitan area, if you know what I mean). Anyway, all suggestions are appreciated. We are both pretty comfortable with doing exploratories and the general wilderness adventure scene. I know this request is pretty general. Its the fall season fishing that we are relatively unfamiliar with out there. Thanks for any input. Jon McAnulty

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Jim Do you have another tune or will you carry on repeating the same quote ad infinitum?? (Latin, save you looking it up!). — Regards Peter (Please also reply by email, my server "loses" posts. Remove nospam to email) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Catch some brookies and clean them, removing the heads. That said, I *am* an unabashed Animal Rights supporter. Moe, please explain how you an AR-loon like yourself can advocate eating fish while at the same time supporting the view that that fish have "rights". You cannot have it both ways.

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Nah, it’s the same thing that Tim does (or did).  Same thing time after time.  Apparently there’s some bad blood between the two. Although I think it’s a very good question.  The two statements do seem to be at odds with each other. Later,      - Ken — Not speaking for anyone but myself – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jim Do you have another tune or will you carry on repeating the same quote ad infinitum?? (Latin, save you looking it up!). — Regards Peter (Please also reply by email, my server "loses" posts. Remove nospam to email) Catch some brookies and clean them, removing the heads. That said, I *am* an unabashed Animal Rights supporter. Moe, please explain how you an AR-loon like yourself can advocate eating fish while at the same time supporting the view that that fish have "rights". You cannot have it both ways.

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Me to fish: "You have the right to live. You have the right to try to eat my flies. You have the right to try to escape. You have the right to be released sometimes. You have the right to be my meal." "Some mornings I wonder if it was worth it to gnaw through the leather straps."  – E. Philips

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Hey Powlesland Ever hear of the food chain? your an imbecilic dweeb….. –Walt

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Walt, I think you missed his point…and lighten up.      - Ken — Not speaking for anyone but myself

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone have a good trout recipe?  I’ll be heading into the Bob Marshall Wilderness later this summer and a frying pan (or a tinfoil baking) full of trout would be quite yummy.   Take some Spam and put the trout back for next time. — Lloyd Fortney http://www.phy.duke.edu/~fortney/ has links to my garden, flower, flyfishing, and travel JPEG images as well as teaching, research, and stuff like that

1. Lite a fire 2. Fill gut cavity with small amount of brown sugar and salt 3. Wrap fish in foil 4. Put wrapped fish in embers and wait ten minutes 5. Have cigarette and beer 6. EAT

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Take some Spam and put the trout back for next time. Lloyd Fortney

Another argument for cannibalism. — TimW – Halfordian Golfer Guilt replaced the creel…

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I hope thats humor, because I thought it funny. Who in the hell would pass up Trout for dinner to eat a can of "processed" meat? Love them Trout,

Spam (the national food of Hawaii, no joke) is a damned good backup if the fish aren’t on the bite…it will sustain you AND make you try a little harder the next day… — TimW – Halfordian Golfer Guilt replaced the creel…

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In all seriousness… If you’re backpacking, all you’ll need is to take an empty spice container and whup up some TBone’s Backpacking Spice (80% salt, 10% pepper, 9% Onion Powder, 1% Garlic powder). Catch some brookies and clean them, removing the heads.  Now, take a regulation weiner stick and slide it between the spine and skin and expose the belly to some ready coals.  As it cooks it will open up.  When ready to eat (use your fingers) sprinkle some TBS on the flesh and enjoy.   If God decides he needs you on the spot, you’ll be ready to go buddy.   Have a great trip. — TimW – Halfordian Golfer Guilt replaced the creel… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone have a good trout recipe?  I’ll be heading into the Bob Marshall Wilderness later this summer and a frying pan (or a tinfoil baking) full of trout would be quite yummy.

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I would rather carry Ramen noodles. Very light, cheap, easy, full of carbos, and a good side dish with the Trout. I can not identify nor stomache SPAM. Sam – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I hope thats humor, because I thought it funny. Who in the hell would pass up Trout for dinner to eat a can of "processed" meat? Love them Trout, Spam (the national food of Hawaii, no joke) is a damned good backup if the fish aren’t on the bite…it will sustain you AND make you try a little harder the next day… — TimW – Halfordian Golfer Guilt replaced the creel…

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Take some spam…ok, I’ll kill a pig instead of a trout. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Take some Spam and put the trout back for next time. Lloyd Fortney Another argument for cannibalism. — TimW – Halfordian Golfer Guilt replaced the creel…

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Does anyone have a good trout recipe?  I’ll be heading into the Bob Marshall Wilderness later this summer and a frying pan (or a tinfoil baking) full of trout would be quite yummy.   Take some Spam and put the trout back for next time.

Yikes, I tried that last year and it seriously depleted my supply of Mr.Softy. (being in a Ponderosa Pine forest, I couldn’t resort to Sargent Scratchy-Yow!). To restore my well-being I went back to the tried and true Trout Burritos. Take a frying pan, a small vial of olive oil, an onion or garlic and some flour tortillas.  A campstove vs. a campfire will diminish your impact in high country more significantly than the release of one or two trout.   Saute the onion and/or garlic in olive oil, then stuff this in the trout and lay it in the pan. Turn the heat low and cover with four tortillas. Turn the trout once and rotate the tortillas to warm them all. Remove the bones and fins and roll up in the tortillas with the onions.   Mark Vinsel

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Animal rights…..hmmm…I bet our native prairies wish they had had rights before they were plowed under for food crops.  Ever rip a living plant out of the ground, or twist an ear off a corn plant? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Catch some brookies and clean them, removing the heads. That said, I *am* an unabashed Animal Rights supporter. Moe, please explain how you an AR-loon like yourself can advocate eating fish while at the same time supporting the view that that fish have "rights". You cannot have it both ways.

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Does anyone have a good trout recipe?  I’ll be heading into the Bob Marshall Wilderness later this summer and a frying pan (or a tinfoil baking) full of trout would be quite yummy.

All these recipes are sounding great.    A tip: if you happen to run into some  ’muddy’ tasting trout (you probably won’t in the Bob Marshall), try skinning them before cooking.   Most of the muddy taste in trout is in the fat on the inside of the skin, and transfers to the meat while cooking.   (Not true with catfish.) Max http://www.inetarena.com/~mwi

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Does anyone have a good trout recipe?  I’ll be heading into the Bob Marshall Wilderness later this summer and a frying pan (or a tinfoil baking) full of trout would be quite yummy.

Just a little warning. The regulations in the Bob Marshall are rather strange. You can only take three fish *under* 12", and you can’t take several restricted species. (Basically, anything but Cutthroats and Rainbows.) You might think this is never enforced in a wilderness area, but the last time I was there (last July) we encountered three extremely aggressive and well-armed fish and game wardens. Fortunately, we were in full compliance. One more thing. Some watersheds have a lot of whitefish. There is no limit on them, and they’re pretty tasty, but rather boney. There’s no excuse for releasing a whitefish, as they compete with trout. It you don’t want to eat it then throw it on the bank for the critters.         Steve Barnard

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Why should it? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Nova Scotia standard fry your catch recipe: Clean trout, (we NEVER fillet trout) Roll in corn meal Fry in bacon fat (from three slices done up just before, or use oil) 7 min per side per pound Heaven I eat some, I put most back – selective catch and release – depends on hunger!!!!! Bill Does anyone have a good trout recipe?  I’ll be heading into the Bob Marshall Wilderness later this summer and a frying pan (or a tinfoil baking) full of trout would be quite yummy. — Bill Curry Tight Lines Guide Service Lockeport, Nova Scotia, Canada Phone or Fax :  902-656-3329 http://www.tightlines.ns.ca

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Does anyone have a good trout recipe?  I’ll be heading into the Bob Marshall Wilderness later this summer and a frying pan (or a tinfoil baking) full of trout would be quite yummy.

Place trout on a sheet of foil large enough to totally wrap.  Place alternating slices of onions and tomatos on top.  Squeeze juice from one lemon over the trout, then add several thin slices of butter on top. Wrap it up with the foil and throw it on the fire.  Also great in the oven too.  Eat with slices of French bread to soak up the juices.     Or…. salt and pepper the trout, then roll in cornmeal and fry away. Gotta go now… getting hungry.                                                               Spy in Hi.

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Nova Scotia standard fry your catch recipe: Clean trout, (we NEVER fillet trout) Roll in corn meal Fry in bacon fat (from three slices done up just before, or use oil) 7 min per side per pound Heaven I eat some, I put most back – selective catch and release – depends on hunger!!!!! Bill Does anyone have a good trout recipe?  I’ll be heading into the Bob Marshall Wilderness later this summer and a frying pan (or a tinfoil baking) full of trout would be quite yummy.

– Bill Curry Tight Lines Guide Service Lockeport, Nova Scotia, Canada Phone or Fax :  902-656-3329 http://www.tightlines.ns.ca

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Cooked over hot coals in open air is great. In foil w/ salt, pepper and garlic is good under the coals is good.  (Put buttered white bread in the body cavity to add flavor and soak up juices — discard the bread after cooking.) Broiled is good. Sauteed in butter is good. Poached in white wine is good. Smoked is good. Boiled with old socks is not good. "Some mornings I wonder if it was worth it to gnaw through the leather straps."  – E. Philips

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Does anyone have a good trout recipe?  I’ll be heading into the Bob Marshall Wilderness later this summer and a frying pan (or a tinfoil baking) full of trout would be quite yummy. Fillet a decent sized trout.  Roll the fillets in some Ritz cracker crumbs and fry in a mixture of a little butter and olive oil.  When the fish is nearly done, drip some soy sauce on top of the fish.  Um um good.

That does sound good! Personally, I like the smaller fish, 12" or under, not filleted, that can be fried crispy enough so you can eat the fins and the tail. Actually, panfish from brackish water are much better eating.         Steve Barnard

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Does anyone have a good trout recipe?  I’ll be heading into the Bob Marshall Wilderness later this summer and a frying pan (or a tinfoil baking) full of trout would be quite yummy.

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Does anyone have a good trout recipe?  I’ll be heading into the Bob Marshall Wilderness later this summer and a frying pan (or a tinfoil baking) full of trout would be quite yummy.

  Take some Spam and put the trout back for next time. — Lloyd Fortney http://www.phy.duke.edu/~fortney/ has links to my garden, flower, flyfishing, and travel JPEG images as well as teaching, research, and stuff like that

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I hope thats humor, because I thought it funny. Who in the hell would pass up Trout for dinner to eat a can of "processed" meat? Love them Trout, Sam – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Does anyone have a good trout recipe?  I’ll be heading into the Bob Marshall Wilderness later this summer and a frying pan (or a tinfoil baking) full of trout would be quite yummy.   Take some Spam and put the trout back for next time. — Lloyd Fortney http://www.phy.duke.edu/~fortney/ has links to my garden, flower, flyfishing, and travel JPEG images as well as teaching, research, and stuff like that

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Does anyone have a good trout recipe?  I’ll be heading into the Bob Marshall Wilderness later this summer and a frying pan (or a tinfoil baking) full of trout would be quite yummy.

Fillet a decent sized trout.  Roll the fillets in some Ritz cracker crumbs and fry in a mixture of a little butter and olive oil.  When the fish is nearly done, drip some soy sauce on top of the fish.  Um um good.

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Anyone know the Nooksak area around Mt Baker?I would like to check it out this month.Hot spots,tips.flys? Any hints would be helpful as I really dont know the area that well.Thanks.

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Anyone know the Nooksak area around Mt Baker?I would like to check it out this month.Hot spots,tips.flys? Any hints would be helpful as I really dont know the area that well.Thanks.

The silvers are in…I talked to Michael Martin today at The Morning Hatch in Tacoma.  472-1072.  You might want to give him a call.   Steve Egge

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Howdy, I had to make a trip from N. Idaho to Kalispell, MT over the weekend for my daughter’s soccer tourn. and was quite interested in the look of the St. Regis River. I haven’t seen much mentioned about it here so I thought I would ask. What’s the scoop?? Looks VERY FINE to say the least. I sometimes come over to St. Regis to take the Gold Creek road over to the St. Joe. If the fishing is worth while, I would venture a few hours enroute. Anyone in the know?? Smilin’ in North Idaho, Jerry

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Howdy, I had to make a trip from N. Idaho to Kalispell, MT over the weekend for my daughter’s soccer tourn. and was quite interested in the look of the St. Regis River. I haven’t seen much mentioned about it here so I thought I would ask. What’s the scoop?? Looks VERY FINE to say the least. I sometimes come over to St. Regis to take the Gold Creek road over to the St. Joe. If the fishing is worth while, I would venture a few hours enroute. Anyone in the know?? Smilin’ in North Idaho, Jerry

Hi Jerry I saw the river the other day and it was dropping.  I would suspect it will be fishable soon.  It’s a great brown trout fishery but also a very early in am and late pm as well. Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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Anyone been fishing yet this year in the Catskills?  I will be coming home from college in early May and would like some info on conditions, ect…  I particularly like fishing the smaller streams.  Any info is greatly appreciated.  Thanks ERIC

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Anyone been fishing yet this year in the Catskills?  I will be coming home from college in early May and would like some info on conditions, ect…  I particularly like fishing the smaller streams.  Any info is greatly appreciated.  Thanks ERIC

Eric, Spent the weekend up at the Beaverkill. The Great Flood scoured the river severely, creating deep holes where there were none before, and dumping big boulders where you can be sure to trip and fall. Some say most of the fish were swept out of the Willowemoc and Beaverkill into the main Delaware. But others say the fish&game people located 38 out of 39 big browns fitted with radio antennas in much the same places they were before the flood. Others are equally concerned about the insect population. The riverbed was churned up pretty badly. Half of Roscoe campsite, just below Junction Pool, was inundated with muddy waters that left a foot of river sand. I checked a few rocks at Junction Pool and found nymphs under almost every rock at the edges of the riffles. Between the flood and the droughts of the past few years, it would be a pleasant surprise if we saw great hatches this season. So far, I’ve seen a few early stoneflies,   small caddis and some tiny Olives. Nothing to get excited or depressed about. Great Flood, was done in by a spin fisherman on the Willowemoc. It won the opening day honors on April 1st. And the state trucks were spottted stocking up and down the Beaverkill on Monday, April 22nd. As for the weekend fishing, Mary Dette described it as slow in her daily reports, which she said was to be expected in April. I met a lot of fishermen on the river, which is still running high, and very few of them had caught a single fish. I don’t want to be caught telling fish stories, but I caught a half dozen trout Friday evening on a #12 Hendrickson (yup!) and another dozen late Monday afternoon on a variety od #16 nymphs. None of them really count. They were all in an innocent looking eddy, where they were dumped by fish&game folk, or where they sought cover from the heavy water. All were the size of stocked fish, and included a couple of rainbows. One guide told me all of them were holdovers, and that rainbows, because of whirling disease, weren’t being stocked. (I listen but I don’t always believe.) Naturally, I won’t say where I caught all these trout. Anyhow, they aren’t there any longer. Every trout I caught was unceremoniously dumped into the fast riffles in the main river. It may be a little tougher in the fast lane, but they’ll have a better of escaping the two-legged, meat-loving predators. Hell, I want to enjoy those trout all season! The highlight of the weekend was the fly tying by Ted Patlen at the Catskill Fly Fishing Center & Museum. I think he tied one of everything, and had a solution to most of my fly-tying problems. He ties flies that catch fish, as well as those that catch anglers. Ted works at Ramsey Outdoors in Paramus, NJ.

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Fabulous blue, striper and false albacore fly rod fishing at the point. Huge schools of blues hitting all day long (4-10 lbs.), bass averaging about 10-15 lbs with some as large as 35 lbs,  Albacore in and out of the blue schools hitting like  subway trains.  Incredible fly rod fishing both off the surf, jetties and especialy from small boats just outside the surf line.  Should get even better in the next few weeks.

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10/10 I was at Montauk Point yesterday and it was incredibly crowded. For safety sake, I kept my 9wt  out of the action. Stripers and blues were around all day, largely within reach of only the longest surfcasters. When they came in close, it was a free for all. I watched one guy hook a 30 inch striper and then get hooked himself by an errant surfcaster as he fought the fish. It was wild as usual!  Flyfishers in boats were getting their gas money’s worth of action Nothing much was doing at Gin Beach, Ditch Plains or Fort Pond Bay during daylight hours. Where have you had your luck? David

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So Pat, you want a Muskie story……eh???  Now it’s summer of ‘91.  My Muskie fishing partner and I have been beatin’ the drink for 3 seasons, just trying to get a glimpse of ole Moby.  One day, the Sheriff’s Dept. gets a call from a hysterical lady saying something in the lake is trying to eat her 40 lb. springer spaniel. No lie…..she was throwing a stick in the lake for "fido" to go fetch….and something latches on to its hind leg and pulls it under.  The story has it, the dog came up and went down once more. The dog finally struggled to shore, and one of its rear legs is severed badly to the tune of 30-40 stitches at the local Vet.  Now… …  Then I got to thinking,  that fish probably eats a 10 lb. sucker for lunch, and I’m teasing it with a 10 inch piece of wood.  Well…she’s still swimming, and my Muskie fishing partner believes as much of this story as I did his dog story, originally,  and I’m working on a jerkbait that resembles a small canoe. Hope ya liked it, Tom    Oh, I liked it!   I think you ought to take a tip from the fly fishermen. Match the hatch!   Talk to that lady and maybe get a picture or two of her dog, then go looking for a stuffed animal with a resemblance to the springer spaniel.

Or maybe he’s a bait fisherman and might have to go bait fishing first. I suppose he could always go find some poodle hackle and tie up a decent imitation. If you cant find a stuffed animal thats close enugh, start carving on a log, maybe you be done by the time the ice melts. I guess I have to enter a bunch of irealevent lines in order…

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Keywords: striped bass, Muskies So Pat, you want a Muskie story……eh???  Now it’s summer of ‘91.  My Muskie fishing partner and I have been beatin’ the drink for 3 seasons, just trying to get a glimpse of ole Moby.  One day, the Sheriff’s Dept. gets a call from a hysterical lady saying something in the lake is trying to eat her 40 lb. springer spaniel. No lie…..she was throwing a stick in the lake for "fido" to go fetch….and something latches on to its hind leg and pulls it under.  The story has it, the dog came up and went down once more. The dog finally struggled to shore, and one of its rear legs is severed badly to the tune of 30-40 stitches at the local Vet.  Now… …  Then I got to thinking,  that fish probably eats a 10 lb. sucker for lunch, and I’m teasing it with a 10 inch piece of wood.  Well…she’s still swimming, and my Muskie fishing partner believes as much of this story as I did his dog story, originally,  and I’m working on a jerkbait that resembles a small canoe. Hope ya liked it, Tom    Oh, I liked it!   I think you ought to take a tip from the fly fishermen. Match the hatch!   Talk to that lady and maybe get a picture or two of her dog, then go looking for a stuffed animal with a resemblance to the springer spaniel. If you cant find a stuffed animal thats close enugh, start carving on a log, maybe you be done by the time the ice melts.

I think the greatest muskie lure going (besides a crappie fisherman’s minnow) is a small radio contrlled yellow duckling that actually paddles with its feet.  Ever see the real thing disappear in a humongous eruption? WOW! 1106 Rayburn Ct.                   K9ALD     AFA3WG Mahomet, IL 61853                  Outdoor writer (Fishing) 217-586-4958                       Skamania Reign Supreme! Manager, Network systems, OIM, University of Illinois

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – So Pat, you want a Muskie story……eh???  Now it’s summer of ‘91.  My Muskie fishing partner and I have been beatin’ the drink for 3 seasons, just trying to get a glimpse of ole Moby.  One day, the Sheriff’s Dept. gets a call from a hysterical lady saying something in the lake is trying to eat her 40 lb. springer spaniel. No lie…..she was throwing a stick in the lake for "fido" to go fetch….and something latches on to its hind leg and pulls it under.  The story has it, the dog came up and went down once more. The dog finally struggled to shore, and one of its rear legs is severed badly to the tune of 30-40 stitches at the local Vet.  Now… …  Then I got to thinking,  that fish probably eats a 10 lb. sucker for lunch, and I’m teasing it with a 10 inch piece of wood.  Well…she’s still swimming, and my Muskie fishing partner believes as much of this story as I did his dog story, originally,  and I’m working on a jerkbait that resembles a small canoe. Hope ya liked it, Tom

    Oh, I liked it!    I think you ought to take a tip from the fly fishermen.  Match the hatch!    Talk to that lady and maybe get a picture or two of her dog, then go looking for a stuffed animal with a resemblance to the springer spaniel. If you cant find a stuffed animal thats close enugh, start carving on a log, maybe you be done by the time the ice melts. I guess I have to enter a bunch of irealevent lines in order to beat the stupid breavity suppressor. Does anyone know how to get past it any other way? this is crazy. Well is this enough lines to do the tricK? I hope so.

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Great giant muskie story deleted… Thomas, Have you considered trolling live-bait rigs with St.Bernards hooked though the nose?  :)  :}  ;   :]   (General public; please notice the many smiley faces, put down those damn flame throwers).                    -Pat.

  Pat,   You wouldn’t believe what’s gone through my mind with this fish!!  I think  I’ve come up with the solution…..I call it a Yipper Harness!!  It’ll take most critters up to about 25-30 lbs. Tom

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I’m getting anxious to get the surf rod in action.  Up here in northeastern Massachusetts we have at least another 4 or 6 weeks to go before the stripers show up.  Is anyone down in NJ, NY, Connecticut getting any striped bass action yet?  I’m willing to drive a few hours to fish. Jon — Jonathan Rodin             FTP Software, Inc.            voice: (508) 659-6261                            North Andover, MA  01845

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I’m getting anxious to get the surf rod in action.  Up here in northeastern Massachusetts we have at least another 4 or 6 weeks to go before the stripers show up.  Is anyone down in NJ, NY, Connecticut getting any striped bass action yet?  I’m willing to drive a few hours to fish.

According to Riverview Bait & Tackle; Bass River, MA; schoolies are showing on the south shore of Cape Cod. They’re probably chasing herring (alewives). Now, when will the first blues arrive?! Bruce Smith

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| I’m getting anxious to get the surf rod in action.  Up here in northeastern | Massachusetts we have at least another 4 or 6 weeks to go before the | stripers show up.  Is anyone down in NJ, NY, Connecticut getting any | striped bass action yet?  I’m willing to drive a few hours to fish. | | According to Riverview Bait & Tackle; Bass River, MA; schoolies are showing | on the south shore of Cape Cod. They’re probably chasing herring (alewives). | Now, when will the first blues arrive?! | | Bruce Smith | They have not shown up in NC in any numbers yet, unfortunately you may have to wait a while.                                 -Pat. p.s.  someone up North there, tell me a good MUSKIE story.         (even better if it is mostly true :}   ).

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There are indeed stripers on the southside of Cape Cod, Buzzard’s Bay, Rhode Island and some Connecticut Rivers. I checked out a herring run yesterday and indeed, it was filled with fish: hence the bass are right behind them, up inside the estuaries and marshes, feeding at the mouth of the runs. No luck personally after four outings, but have seen fish taken at dawn on high, outgoing tides where the bays empty into the Sound. Bluefish? May 15 for southern Cape Cod. DCC — Forbes Magazine                                 dchurbuck:MCIMAIL

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  (Text Deleted)                            -Pat. p.s.  someone up North there, tell me a good MUSKIE story.        (even better if it is mostly true :}   ).

 So Pat, you want a Muskie story……eh???   I moved to WI. in Jan. of ‘87.  That spring, the DNR were taking a population survey of various fish species in Lake Wissota, just on the northeast end of Chippewa Falls. They had been out shocking most of the day, and were gathering and tagging quite a bunch of Muskie and walleye.(Notice how the word "Muskie" is the only fish name that commands enough respect of me that I capitalize it)   Late in the afternoon of that spring day,  a huge Muskie, stunned by the field of the shocking machine floats to the surface.  The three DNR people in the shocking boat don’t believe what they see.  They hurriedly try to slip a six foot cradle net under the fish.  The fish is so long its head and tail are both extending beyond the ends of the net.  Before they could hoist this fish to boatside for measuring, it decides it doesn’t want to be in the net!!!! So….it leaves….before any measurements are taken.  The DNR people say it’s a new world record!!!  Right here in Lake Wissota….right here under my nose.   My Muskie fishing partner is a local law enforcement officer, and works in the County Court House in an office near the County DNR fish biologist. He gets the scoop on this fish….it’s true…..Moby Muskihoonge lives right here under my nose.   Now it’s summer of ‘91.  My Muskie fishing partner and I have been beatin’ the drink for 3 seasons, just trying to get a glimpse of ole Moby.  One day, the Sheriff’s Dept. gets a call from a hysterical lady saying something in the lake is trying to eat her 40 lb. springer spaniel. No lie…..she was throwing a stick in the lake for "fido" to go fetch….and something latches on to its hind leg and pulls it under.  The story has it, the dog came up and went down once more. The dog finally struggled to shore, and one of its rear legs is severed badly to the tune of 30-40 stitches at the local Vet.  Now…when my Muskie fishing partner told me this, I just about got torqued off…thinking he was playing with my emotions, but the following Sunday in church, I was approached by a congregation member who also happens to know I’m pretty interested in Muskie fishing and who also happens to be a Vet.  "Ya should’ve seen what I saw the other day ", he said.  Well, the blood is boiling.     Now it’s summer of ‘92.  I have a friend from work with me fishing Muskies on one of the bars in Lake Wissota.  He’s boated a 34" northern pike, and I’ve had two follows…mid to high 30" fish.  My normal fishing partner is at some school in Madison, so that’s why I have a different person along.  I’m throwing my favorite home-made bucktail, a 10 incher, black over orange with a #8 florescent orange willow leaf blade.  A long cast……and not 15 feet from right in front of me…there she is!!!  Moby Muskihoonge…..does the old porpoise trick… and when she goes back down, her tail is waving back and forth in the breeze. I estimate a 15 – 20" spread from point to point on her tail, and she’s  danged near half as long as my 17 ft. bass boat, for sure!!  Four or five lazy waves of the tail, and she’s gone,  leaving a boil in the water about 5 ft. in diameter.   I’m scrambling to get my bucktail back after the cast, and get the biggest bait in my box on my leader……a Super 10 magnum Suick.   Its too late.. a dozen casts of that bait yields nothing but sore arms!! My friend says he saw something out of the corner of his eye, and he saw the boil in the water, but thats all, he won’t confirm the sighting……dogmeat!!   Then I got to thinking,  that fish probably eats a 10 lb. sucker for lunch, and I’m teasing it with a 10 inch piece of wood.  Well…she’s still swimming, and my Muskie fishing partner believes as much of this story as I did his dog story, originally,  and I’m working on a jerkbait that resembles a small canoe. Hope ya liked it, Tom *  Thomas L. Cooley           *     Whatever I say is only my opinion, and     * *  The Muskie Maniac          *     most people at CRI would say it’s not      * *  Chippewa Falls, WI.        *     MUSKIES- Other fish are just BAIT!!        *

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|   (Text Deleted) | |                              -Pat. | p.s.  someone up North there, tell me a good MUSKIE story.   |      (even better if it is mostly true :}   ). | | | | |  So Pat, you want a Muskie story……eh??? Great giant muskie story deleted… Thomas, Have you considered trolling live-bait rigs with St.Bernards hooked though the nose?  :)  :}  ;   :]   (General public; please notice the many smiley faces, put down those damn flame throwers).                         -Pat.

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