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Yeah I know, but I was angling for something more based on your other reply. I don’t know, like free ATV rides or fishing gear or something…

There’s no such thing as a free ATV ride!  Just ask Ken F. Op  –marked for life–

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Opie, your flies are totally the most awesomest and plus also you’re the bestest master fly tier ever. Hey the offer has been made to you on numerous occasions, but I think you are a fraidy-cat, or ya just don’t believe me when I say I have locks on all the bedroom doors? Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think he knows which side of the doors the locks are on.     Op  –not fooled by any liars, but I can be swayed– It’d take a pretty stiff breeze though. Wolfgang

You’re just itchin’ for a fight, aren’t you? Op  –none too prissy to kick a rats ass-kisser–

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Opie, your flies are totally the most awesomest and plus also you’re the bestest master fly tier ever. Hey the offer has been made to you on numerous occasions, but I think you are a fraidy-cat, or ya just don’t believe me when I say I have locks on all the bedroom doors?

Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think he knows which side of the doors the locks are on.     Op  –not fooled by any liars, but I can be swayed–

It’d take a pretty stiff breeze though. Wolfgang

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Opie, your flies are totally the most awesomest and plus also you’re the bestest master fly tier ever. Hey the offer has been made to you on numerous occasions, but I think you are a fraidy-cat, or ya just don’t believe me when I say I have locks on all the bedroom doors?

Yeah I know, but I was angling for something more based on your other reply. I don’t know, like free ATV rides or fishing gear or something…

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So you finally got mine John?  I have no problem with it. Yes, yours and Jeff’s arrived Friday, and Mu’s today.  If I post the photo, though, Op, the whole world is going to know all this bad-mouthing of your tying skills was a fraud.  Damn nice fly for someone who’s only been tying a couple of months.  In fact, damn nice fly, period. JR

You are too kind sir!  Ya know ya got a free bed anytime ya feel the need to fish or whatever in NC. Op  –really, I’m quite harmless–

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Yes, yours and Jeff’s arrived Friday, and Mu’s today.  If I post the photo, though, Op, the whole world is going to know all this bad-mouthing of your tying skills was a fraud.  Damn nice fly for someone who’s only been tying a couple of months.  In fact, damn nice fly, period. JR You are too kind sir!  Ya know ya got a free bed anytime ya feel the need to fish or whatever in NC.

Opie, your flies are totally the most awesomest and plus also you’re the bestest master fly tier ever.

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Opie, your flies are totally the most awesomest and plus also you’re the bestest master fly tier ever.

Hey the offer has been made to you on numerous occasions, but I think you are a fraidy-cat, or ya just don’t believe me when I say I have locks on all the bedroom doors? Op  –not fooled by any liars, but I can be swayed–

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So you finally got mine John?  I have no problem with it. Yes, yours and Jeff’s arrived Friday, and Mu’s today.  If I post the photo, though, Op, the whole world is going to know all this bad-mouthing of your tying skills was a fraud.  Damn nice fly for someone who’s only been tying a couple of months.  In fact, damn nice fly, period.

Dang!  Opie sent the good one to the guy with the camera!  Why didn’t I think of that??

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF? JR

So you finally got mine John?  I have no problem with it. Op

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF?

I assume you finally got mine then.  Fine with me, thanks.

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF? JR

Fine with me but I never got Mu’s tie. Willi

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Fine with me but I never got Mu’s tie. Willi

I just got Mu’s flyz on Sat. Willi, but still ain’t got my big swap flyz? Op

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF?

No problem.  Shouldn’t there be 6 flies though? Mu

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So you finally got mine John?  I have no problem with it.

Yes, yours and Jeff’s arrived Friday, and Mu’s today.  If I post the photo, though, Op, the whole world is going to know all this bad-mouthing of your tying skills was a fraud.  Damn nice fly for someone who’s only been tying a couple of months.  In fact, damn nice fly, period. JR

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF? No problem.  Shouldn’t there be 6 flies though?

Thanks, Mu.  Yes, there should be six. JR

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Yes, yours and Jeff’s arrived Friday, and Mu’s today.

How strange.  How did the east coast guys get my flies before you and Willi?  Also how did I get Jeff & Opie’s flies about a week before you did? Mu

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF? JR

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – YourRiver aka Angler’s Covey added me twice to their listserv without my permission. … Part of the blame should be placed on the ISP who allows mail-forwarding … If some unscrupulous scum mined ROFF for email addies and spoofed their SMTP server into subscribing all of us as if we’d requested it ourselves, YourRiver aka Angler’s Covey could in fact, be blameless in all this. We haven’t seen the intel guy since this all happened.

You mean the guy who shared a cubicle with six people and wondered if G.I. Joe sold good rods? The guy who Richard Dean thought was a techie scumbag troll? I think he and Janik are out fishing right now, or spending money at a fly shop, or doing some damn thing. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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I have always advocated gentlemanly demeanor, proper etiquette, and a kinder, gentler atmosphere to promote good-hearted camaraderie in this forum.  Let us refrain from the rigorous strain of hostile countenance and deport ourselves in a manor which brings enlightenment and good will to all who chance upon this domain. — Wayne (can’t take a WHOLE bottle of Macallan to the Clave!) To Fish is Human…To Release Divine!

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I have always advocated gentlemanly demeanor, proper etiquette, and a kinder, gentler atmosphere to promote good-hearted camaraderie in this forum.  Let us refrain from the rigorous strain of hostile countenance and deport ourselves in a manor which brings enlightenment and good will to all who chance upon this domain.

Yeah right, what he said, except of course for spammers, recalcitrant newbies, sundry assholes, a couple of people with obviously aberrant opinions, weight chuckers, nymph fishers, worm danglers, competition fishermen, people with carbon fibre fly reels, elitists, catch and killers, dry fly purists, wet fly swingers, spawn bag dunkers, catch and releasers, political posters, users of barbed hooks, bamboo rods, nylon nets, rods, poles, and perches, and all the other scum. TL MC

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Yeah! — Wayne (Macallans is getting light, might have to make a run to the pop shop) To Fish is Human….To Release Divine!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yeah right, what he said, except of course for spammers, recalcitrant newbies, sundry assholes, a couple of people with obviously aberrant opinions, weight chuckers, nymph fishers, worm danglers, competition fishermen, people with carbon fibre fly reels, elitists, catch and killers, dry fly purists, wet fly swingers, spawn bag dunkers, catch and releasers, political posters, users of barbed hooks, bamboo rods, nylon nets, rods, poles, and perches, and all the other scum. TL MC

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Your irrational, pointless, mind-numbing ramblings besides making me vomit, made me check out YourRiver.com and their site ROCKS! They have the coolest animation on knots and fly tying that I have ever seen.

Wouldn’t be spamming us twice now would you?Thank goodness there are other shops we can spend our hard earned money on. You are not by chance friends with the guy who makes gink are you? Taking on the "spam cause" is a true reflection of your cowardice and the diminutive nature of your penis.

Not really caring about the size of his manhood, seems to me he at least has the gonads to use his real name, you cowardly little twit. Posted Using FishingLife.com News Service "Life was made for fishing!" http://www.fishinglife.com

One more site I can do without. Kind of sorry I dropped all that money in Angler’s Covey last year, a mistake I will not repeat. Wayne

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MaverickMan wrote Dear Ken, Get a clue you pompous, solipsistic, self-aggrandizing ass. No one cares about you or your ego-driven, vacuous and vitriolic piss and moan sessions.

…diatribe snipped Except you … apparently —                                                       -dnc-

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We’re all Bozo’s on this bus. — TBone Walker The Halfordian Golfer

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We’re all Bozo’s on this bus.

And the driver got off at the last stop. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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YourRiver aka Angler’s Covey added me twice to their listserv without my permission. … Part of the blame should be placed on the ISP who allows mail-forwarding …

If some unscrupulous scum mined ROFF for email addies and spoofed their SMTP server into subscribing all of us as if we’d requested it ourselves, YourRiver aka Angler’s Covey could in fact, be blameless in all this. I’m not in high dudgeon because of that, disgusting and despicable as it is. What really frosts my shorts is the officially stated policy of adding folks to their listserv on the referral of a "friend". That’s wrong, WAY wrong, and the sooner YourRiver, Angler’s Covey, Keith Welch et al figure that out the better. And I’m more than happy to help them come to that conclusion. — Ken Fortenberry

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YourRiver aka Angler’s Covey added me twice to their listserv without my permission. … Part of the blame should be placed on the ISP who allows mail-forwarding … If some unscrupulous scum mined ROFF for email addies and spoofed their SMTP server into subscribing all of us as if we’d requested it ourselves, YourRiver aka Angler’s Covey could in fact, be blameless in all this.

We haven’t seen the intel guy since this all happened. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’m not in high dudgeon because of that, disgusting and despicable as it is. What really frosts my shorts is the officially stated policy of adding folks to their listserv on the referral of a "friend". That’s wrong, WAY wrong, and the sooner YourRiver, Angler’s Covey, Keith Welch et al figure that out the better. And I’m more than happy to help them come to that conclusion. — Ken Fortenberry

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Well, Mr. Brunson, regardless of your opinion about Mr. Fortenberry the truth is that YourRiver has taken my name (and apparently many others) from this newsgroup and sent spamming email to me. Even if their web site "rocks" (?) they’re still doing something I detest by lifting my address for a mailing list. Some users don’t appreciate that and though you may find spam in your email box to be of some value, to me it means that YourRiver is just another bunch of spamming f_____g morons. So, Mr. Brunson if you haven’t been on line much in the last decade I’ll clue you in on something: spam for sites that "rock" is no more welcome than Montezuma’s revenge to most of us.

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Yeah right, what he said, except of course for spammers, recalcitrant newbies, sundry assholes, a couple of people with obviously aberrant opinions, weight chuckers, nymph fishers, worm danglers, competition fishermen, people with carbon fibre fly reels, elitists, catch and killers, dry fly purists, wet fly swingers, spawn bag dunkers, catch and releasers, political posters, users of barbed hooks, bamboo rods, nylon nets, rods, poles, and perches, and all the other scum.

You forgot about people who fish "on the redds." — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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You forgot about people who fish "on the redds."

My apologies, a simple oversight. TL MC

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Part of the blame should be placed on the ISP who allows mail-forwarding on the SMTP server that resides on the COLORADODOTNET machine. If properly configured, that SMTP server would not allow emails with a FROM address that didn’t belong to a domain hosted by that machine. However, the permission on that machine are so lax that I can actually send an email from that machine as if I were Keith Welch–and since it would be sent from the same machine as Keith’s regular mail, the headers from my email would be indistinguishable from his. If you don’t believe me, just ask RW.

Yep. In fact, Ken, I had half a mind to send you an email from him telling you to "piss off you incessant little prig" but I figured that since you’d have no way to tell that it was a joke sent from yours truly, you might reply to the email and then there’d be "real" trouble

It wouldn’t have mattered, Steve. Ken would have lost the email among the dozens of similar ones he gets every day. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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Taking on the "spam cause" is a true reflection of your cowardice and the diminutive nature of your penis.

<translationMommy, them mean despammers smacked my pee-pee again!</translation What a pud. Shouldn’t you be trolling NANAE instead? "Why can’t everybody else leave everybody else alone?"                               -Hank Junior

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… Reading your useless postings has been a greater waste of my time … Quick, hang up the modem before mommy catches you on the computer.

Oddly enough, ‘fishinglife’, which is in his message header as the authenticated X-sender, allows you to subscribe to their list without verification too. And the subscription email came from starphire.com, just like his post did. <g — Charlie…

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Dear Ken, Get a clue you pompous, solipsistic, self-aggrandizing ass. No one cares about you or your ego-driven, vacuous and vitriolic piss and moan sessions.

(snip) etc. Have I got this right, you don’t like him much? Chris

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Have I got this right, you don’t like him much?

He’ll have to get in line and wait his turn. — visit my web site: http://home.earthlink.net/~royalwulff/

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YourRiver aka Angler’s Covey added me twice to their listserv without my permission. When I complained, the CEO apologized for any inconvenience but he did not apologize for having added my name to the listserv, explaining instead that if referred by a friend YourRiver aka Angler’s Covey would add my email address to their list.

Part of the blame should be placed on the ISP who allows mail-forwarding on the SMTP server that resides on the COLORADODOTNET machine. If properly configured, that SMTP server would not allow emails with a FROM address that didn’t belong to a domain hosted by that machine. However, the permission on that machine are so lax that I can actually send an email from that machine as if I were Keith Welch–and since it would be sent from the same machine as Keith’s regular mail, the headers from my email would be indistinguishable from his. If you don’t believe me, just ask RW. In fact, Ken, I had half a mind to send you an email from him telling you to "piss off you incessant little prig" but I figured that since you’d have no way to tell that it was a joke sent from yours truly, you might reply to the email and then there’d be "real" trouble –Steve

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Damn!  How come Ken always gets all the fan mail!?! <g

I would have thought it was you-know-who, except the post used ‘their’ properly. <g — Charlie…

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… Reading your useless postings has been a greater waste of my time …

Quick, hang up the modem before mommy catches you on the computer. — Ken Fortenberry

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… Reading your useless postings … LMAO! Damn!  How come Ken always gets all the fan mail!?! <g

I’m wondering if the anonymous Mr. MaverickMan is the clever young marketing genius about to be shitcanned by tlww.com or just a crank making mischief with mommy’s modem. At any rate this thread is a convenient place to further observe just how egregious the behavior of YourRiver aka Angler’s Covey has been in this situation. As anyone who’s ever run a listserv knows, one of the cardinal rules is to never add anyone to the list who doesn’t personally request to be added. Some listserv programs require a request and a verification of the request, so universal is this convention. YourRiver aka Angler’s Covey added me twice to their listserv without my permission. When I complained, the CEO apologized for any inconvenience but he did not apologize for having added my name to the listserv, explaining instead that if referred by a friend YourRiver aka Angler’s Covey would add my email address to their list. This is OUTRAGEOUS ! It is nothing less than institutionalized SPAMming and it’s no less vile, quite the contrary, it is considerably more vile, for being stated as company policy. Pooh-pooh this incident if you wish, but it’s one of the scariest goddamn things I’ve seen on the Internet lately and the fact it’s being done by a Colorado flyfishing store sickens me. — Ken Fortenberry

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  Dear Ken, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Get a clue you pompous, solipsistic, self-aggrandizing ass. No one cares about you or your ego-driven, vacuous and vitriolic piss and moan sessions. You are not important. Your irrational, pointless, mind-numbing ramblings besides making me vomit, made me check out YourRiver.com and their site ROCKS! They have the coolest animation on knots and fly tying that I have ever seen. Reading your useless postings has been a greater waste of my time than getting any amount of spam ever would be. Taking on the "spam cause" is a true reflection of your cowardice and the diminutive nature of your penis. Note: To reply to this sender, remove NOJUNK from the email address.

LMAO! Damn!  How come Ken always gets all the fan mail!?! <g — Warren Findley Shut up and fish! For Yellowstone Clave info: http://www.geocities.com/troutbum_mt/YNP.html

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Solipsistic, eh? Very nice. Haven’t heard anybody use that one in a long time. You read an opinion expressed in a public forum and you feel you must respond with incivility? Gosh, I hope you feel better. You don’t own any guns, do you? I’d hate to see what happened if BK burned your fries. Your irrational, pointless, mind-numbing ramblings besides making me vomit, made me check out YourRiver.com and their site ROCKS! They have the coolest animation on knots and fly tying that I have ever seen.

Are you getting a commission for posting your message? I hope you’ll invest in a trip to the doctor to find the REAL cause of your vomiting. If you want to deliver a commercial for an already unpopular web site, I suggest you wrap it in something other than puke. Reading your useless postings has been a greater waste of my time than getting any amount of spam ever would be.

…then would you please put him in your kill file? I would almost rather read spam than a personal attack on another human being whose attacker knows him only from a few lines he’s written in a Usenet newsgroup. Taking on the "spam cause" is a true reflection of your cowardice and the diminutive nature of your penis.

I don’t understand the connection. Most people who post to this group on a regular basis don’t want to see unsolicited commercial advertising in it. I share Ken’s opinion. Expressing an opinion isn’t cowardice. In our "herd mentality" culture, expressing an opinion which may be perceived as contrary requires the opposite of cowardice. As for your interest in the size of another man’s wedding tackle, I shudder to guess at what may be behind it. Note: To reply to this sender, remove NOJUNK from the email address.

Nah, I’d rather express my opinion toward your post in public. The type of post which attacks a person who is essentially a stranger is something I find unwholesome and unwelcome. I’m not writing this to defend Ken Fortenberry. He’s a big boy and can do it very well himself. I have a feeling that you’re going to find out how well he does it any minute now. Did I get my point across without calling you names or making uninformed suppositions about your motives and parentage? I hope so. No condemnation intended. Please don’t email me. Since this started in public, let’s finish it here. LR

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Dear Ken, Get a clue you pompous, solipsistic, self-aggrandizing ass. No one cares about you or your ego-driven, vacuous and vitriolic piss and moan sessions. You are not important. Your irrational, pointless, mind-numbing ramblings besides making me vomit, made me check out YourRiver.com and their site ROCKS! They have the coolest animation on knots and fly tying that I have ever seen. Reading your useless postings has been a greater waste of my time than getting any amount of spam ever would be. Taking on the "spam cause" is a true reflection of your cowardice and the diminutive nature of your penis. Note: To reply to this sender, remove NOJUNK from the email address. Posted Using FishingLife.com News Service "Life was made for fishing!" http://www.fishinglife.com

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I will be in Mitchell SD for opening day of phesant season next week. Does anyone know of any good areas near Mitchell that I could do a little fishing?

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4 hours drive to the black hills.  Some trout in the missouri river below the dam (damn?) near Pierre (2 hour drive).  Bass in Lake Mitchell. steve haun sioux falls, sd

I will be in Mitchell SD for opening day of phesant season next week. Does anyone know of any good areas near Mitchell that I could do a little

fishing?

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Just outside of Rapid City are two lovely streams that hold good fish and have excellent hatches.  Spring Creek and Rapid Creek. They are really worth fishing.

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… You were superb, magnificent It is gratification itself to see one’s work carried on …

I am humbled and honored. I’ve never had reason to expect or to believe myself worthy of such hortatory from the reigning master of malevolent missives. Such is life, C’est la vie. — Ken Fortenberry

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Daytripper Im sorry but I have to step in here. At my very best I don’t think I could muster such focus, such disdain, such raw anger in a mere one-post, 3 para, performance. This was a notable performance by Ken F. (snip) Dave

        agreed, david.  i’ll have to say, however, that i will have to go with a 9.7.  the cliche replaced, and there she would have been: the first post i have ever seen on roff that i might not have sent. amazing, really amazing. wayno the humbled. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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Wayno, Yes. That lad has a talent from on high, and a real future in the field. In some sense the scoring is really inadequate for such high level performances. The problem being there has been no serious attempt to recalibrate the various factors since the advent of talk radio. A revision surely is overdue. On another matter; has the Subcommittee on Southern Appellations had a chance to act on the referral in the matter of the term "redneck" per my post of yesterday, or will you be giving a Summary Ruling from the Chair? Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – agreed, david.  i’ll have to say, however, that i will have to go with a 9.7.  the cliche replaced, and there she would have been: the first post i have ever seen on roff that i might not have sent. amazing, really amazing. wayno the humbled.

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Wayno Excellent! We have our official ruling. Matter settled. Dave – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wayno, SNIP SNIP On another matter; has the Subcommittee on Southern Appellations had a chance to act on the referral in the matter of the term "redneck" per my post of yesterday, or will you be giving a Summary Ruling from the Chair? Dave accustomed as i am to operating as an enlightened despot, the latter methodology will be utilized. "redneck" is not a "term".  that noun implies a condition capable of description by the english language.  "redneck", rather, is "being" a way you’ll never know, unless you *is* one. wayno, who ain’t one.

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Wayno, Yes. That lad has a talent from on high, and a real future in the field. In some sense the scoring is really inadequate for such high level performances. The problem being there has been no serious attempt to recalibrate the various factors since the advent of talk radio. A revision surely is overdue. On another matter; has the Subcommittee on Southern Appellations had a chance to act on the referral in the matter of the term "redneck" per my post of yesterday, or will you be giving a Summary Ruling from the Chair? Dave

        accustomed as i am to operating as an enlightened despot, the latter methodology will be utilized.         "redneck" is not a "term".  that noun implies a condition capable of description by the english language.  "redneck", rather, is "being" a way you’ll never know, unless you *is* one.         wayno, who ain’t one.

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Tyler You have a great rod for the money, I don’t know what happened to your rod but I can say for a fact that you will be well taken care of . BTW Sage makes good rods to but they break to and so do the rest of them and guess what so do cars. Just my .02 worth. Good Luck KW – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thank’s for the help guys.  I sent my rod in to get repaired/replaced the other day.  I hope they replace it.  I guess my real question is if there is a better made rod out there for around the same price.  I paid about $150 for it.  I know Sage makes good rods, but I’ve seen how much they cost. Can’t quite afford them.  Maybe someday. Thanks Again, Tyler FYI Diamondback has an unconditional lifetime warranty KW I think Diamondback has a replacement guarantee. Take it back to the dealer or call Diamondback yourself. Use the number on your warranty registration card. Fixing graphite rods doesn’t work well because of the brittleness of the material. There can be micro-cracks in the rod distant from the break. If diamondback doesn’t replace the rod with a new one, then buy a rod from a company that has a good guarantee next time. Slammed my 8 year old sage into the liftgate on my Explorer….replaced. The tip on my friends Sage was broken by the guide he hired….replaced. Another friend lent his custom Sage to a friend and the friend broke the tip off…Sage sent him a new blank. You spend too much money on these fragile things not to have a replacement guarantee. Steve Yes,  most common cause of that is the ferrule has worked loose.  I once caught 15 fish and had the rod explode on a cast when that happened. The good news,  there is a good chance Diamondback will work with you on replacing it. There is a chance that the ferrule is done incorrectly.  If that is the case Diamondback will probably give you a new rod.  Call them. Alright, I just bought a new setup a couple of weeks ago.  An Orvis 5/6 Rocky Mountain reel with a 9′ 6wt. Diamondback 3 piece rod.  The reel is great, but the middle section of the rod snapped right at the top ferrule while I was casting.  It was only my second time out with it.  Has anyone else had this problem with these rods, or is it just my bad luck? Tyler Share what you know. Learn what you don’t.

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An Orvis 5/6 Rocky Mountain reel with a 9′ 6wt. Diamondback 3 piece rod.  The reel is great, but the middle section of the rod snapped right at the top ferrule while I was casting.  It was only my second time out with it.  Has anyone else had this problem with these rods, or is it just my bad luck?

Not your bad luck, I’ve had two Diamondbacks, both snapped at the ferrulles during normal casting. While they are guaranteed, it is a major PITA. Wayne Knight (remove nospam to respond via mail) Expert in the creation of  wind knots and tailing loops.

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An Orvis 5/6 Rocky Mountain reel with a 9′ 6wt. Diamondback 3 piece rod.  The reel is great, but the middle section of the rod snapped right at the top ferrule while I was casting.  It was only my second time out with it.  Has anyone else had this problem with these rods, or is it just my bad luck? Not your bad luck, I’ve had two Diamondbacks, both snapped at the ferrulles during normal casting. While they are guaranteed, it is a major PITA.

I don’t know so I will have to ask this question.  IF your Diamondback doesn’t have a guide RIGHT AT THE BASE of that ferrule station, the fulcrum point is missing which absorbs the shear forces, thus stopping ferrules from snapping off at the base.  Another thing that is important Wayne is properly placed guides at the base of ferrules (both sides) remove a tremendous amount of male/female ferrule wear.  Therefore, IF there are no GUIDES at the base of the butt section immediately below the ferrule, that may very well be the reason these Diamondbacks are breaking at the point. Just another bastardly comment and suggestion. — Mr. G.   http://www.gink.com/chat   "Flyfisherman’s Camp Fires Burning" Fly Fishing’s Talking Camp Site http://www.gink.com  

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Anyone having problems with their Orvis Clearwater breathables? Peter

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Anyone having problems with their Orvis Clearwater breathables? Peter

The only problem I had was with a barbed wire fence that was half buried. I just wanted to get them repaired, but Orvis replaced them. Otherwise, I have had about 2 years in two pairs, and have had no problems. The only thing I have to figure out is how to get the mud off of them. jim — Jim Jacoby Mt. Horeb, WI To send a reply, remove "-take_this_out-" from the address.

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Anyone having problems with their Orvis Clearwater breathables? Peter

No.  But you said the magic word * Orvis *.  If you have *any* problem with them, even not liking them, Orvis will replace them.  I wore a pair of 3mm neoprenes for over a month of fishing in Maine and Labrador.  I should have bought the breathables and told my Orvis dealer about it.  He said to bring the neoprenes back and I could trade ‘em for breathables.  Neat!!!!  I’ve had no problems with them, but if I do, well Orvis is only about twenty minutes away. :0) Dave LaCourse

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I just purchased a pair of the breathable waders this past Christmas and have hd no problems with them yet.  I am hoping they will hold up pretty good Matt Rheams

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Anyone having problems with their Orvis Clearwater breathables?

the shop who sells it has problems: these waders are so affordable he’s not selling any of the expensive ones! =^) i’ve been using it for about 1.5 years now and it’s great. No punctures or leaks. Very comfy, but that’s with all breathables i guess. My idea was why pay 300+ bucks when you can get 2 of these, spreaded over many many years (if one wears out, just get a new one). Go get it! unless you don’t like the blue color.

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writes: *SNIP* Go get it! unless you don’t like the blue color.

For 1998 you can also get them in green.                       Good Fishing,                             Dan Dan Gracia Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools Mt. Shasta Fly Fishing Schools http://www.thegrid.net/flyfish

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Anyone having problems with their Orvis Clearwater breathables? i’ve been using it for about 1.5 years now and it’s great. No punctures or leaks. Very comfy, but that’s with all breathables i guess. My idea was why pay 300+ bucks when you can get 2 of these, spreaded over many many years (if one wears out, just get a new one). Go get it! unless you don’t like the blue color.

Except now they come in much better green color. I just bought mine a few weeks ago, and I may never wear my neoprenes again! I’m sure  I will in the winter, but I fished a week ago in about 40 degree weather in cold, tailwater water (not sure about exact water temp), and all I wore under mine was one layer of Patagonia Expedition Weight Capilene underwear. I stayed bone dry (even after hiking 1.5 mi., mostly on gravel — ugh), and I stayed surprisingly warm. I waited until they had been out for a year or so to get some, and I wish I had bought some of the first ones (though I really do prefer the new green color — much more natural-looking). SWJ

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Go get it! unless you don’t like the blue color. For 1998 you can also get them in green.  

oh no…. why not just plain tan?…

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Anyone having problems with their Orvis Clearwater breathables? Peter

Thanks for all your comments.  I’ve been very cautious about breathables as the local store has had a bad time with another brand. I’ve just contacted a local Orvis store about getting a set.  The green ones, SWJ.  Thanks for the heads up on the colour. Peter

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I am new to the San Diego area and am looking for nearby fisheries.  Where can I find trout without driving for hours.  Any fly fishing streams? Thanks for the help.

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I am new to the San Diego area and am looking for nearby fisheries.  Where can I find trout without driving for hours.  Any fly fishing streams? Thanks for the help.

I do not know of any local fisheries, and NO local fly fishing streams.  Some people fly fish at cuyamaca and Murray, but I don’t know how well those lakes work.   Good luck Dave

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Try the surf for corvina.  I no they aren’t trout — but they are close and a challenge. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am new to the San Diego area and am looking for nearby fisheries.  Where can I find trout without driving for hours.  Any fly fishing streams? Thanks for the help. I do not know of any local fisheries, and NO local fly fishing streams.  Some people fly fish at cuyamaca and Murray, but I don’t know how well those lakes work.   Good luck Dave

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Contact San Diego Fly Fishers org c/o Strouds Tackle, Morena Blvd, San Diego CA for info on the group and its meetings (7 pm first Monday ea month).  Some SDFF members (not me) speak of  wild trout streams in the county that have 11"-12" trout.  SDFF also stocks county streams with hatchery trout each year. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Try the surf for corvina.  I no they aren’t trout — but they are close and a challenge. I am new to the San Diego area and am looking for nearby fisheries.  Where can I find trout without driving for hours.  Any fly fishing streams? Thanks for the help. I do not know of any local fisheries, and NO local fly fishing streams.  Some people fly fish at cuyamaca and Murray, but I don’t know how well those lakes work.   Good luck Dave

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Lake Poway has trout.. haven’t tried ‘em, but I guess I should — Bob Dobson RAD Solutions www.radsolutions.com

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I ve in northern MA. I would like to try fly fishing for shad. I would drive to Holyoke or Enfield Ct and fish the dams there, which, I understand, are both hot spots. But, does anyone have any thoughts or current info about the Merrimack or North Rivers or anywhere else? joe hardman

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Hey Joe, Where ya been hidin’?   Under a snow drift? <G I hear the shad have moved up the Merrimack and should be up to the Essex dam in downtown Lawrence any time now.  I talked to a guy at my TU meeting tonight who got a lot of shad last weekend at the Rocks Village Bridge in Haverhill.   There will probably be some schoolies mixed in with them.  I hope to get down there and try it within the week.   Tight Lines, Gerry Crow

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I ve in northern MA. I would like to try fly fishing for shad. I would drive to Holyoke or Enfield Ct and fish the dams there, which, I understand, are both hot spots. But, does anyone have any thoughts or current info about the Merrimack or North Rivers or anywhere else? joe hardman

Ran into a guy at the Seabrook estuary yesterday who told me he did real well on shad this week at Rock Village in Haverhill. Incoming tide, sinking line, small flies. have fun,                 jc

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Howdy to all brooky fishermen;  I’m heading to Algonquin park in the spring for some of those big river speckles.  I need some advice on the best time in the spring to go in regards to the best fishing, and the least black- flies.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Worst black fly and best brooky fly season are perfectly correlated.  (God knew you were coming.) — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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Howdy to all brooky fishermen;  I’m heading to Algonquin park in the spring for some of those big river speckles.  I need some advice on the best time in the spring to go in regards to the best fishing, and the least black- flies.  Any help would be greatly appreciated. Chris Chris Lanthier    

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Smallies are excellent fly-rod fare; they will add a whole new dimension to the trout angler’s experience. Fish them with large nymphs (out east we rely heavily on the hellgrammite, which is an early stage of the Dobson fly), crayfish imitations, or minnow imitations.  Woolly buggers are a good starting point.  Don’t go down to too fine a tippet; they aren’t as discriminating (usually) as trout. They’ll hit surface lures; they basically behave like a cross between a trout (for current relationships) and a bass (striking and fighting characteristics.) Reply to report on your success! DM

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Smallies are excellent fly-rod fare; they will add a whole new dimension to the trout angler’s experience. Fish them with large nymphs (out east we rely heavily on the hellgrammite, which is an early stage of the Dobson fly), crayfish imitations, or minnow imitations.  Woolly buggers are a good starting point.  Don’t go down to too fine a tippet; they aren’t as discriminating (usually) as trout. They’ll hit surface lures; they basically behave like a cross between a trout (for current relationships) and a bass (striking and fighting characteristics.) Reply to report on your success! DM

Two points:         1.  Fish deep for the big ones.  Right along the bottom with weighted flys.  Dead drift accomplishes this best.  Even streamers need to be down on the bottom, I’ve found.         2.  Check with the locals about colors.  Surpising to me was that black works best in some rivers and not at all on others. Compare the Shenadoah with the Potomac, for instance. I’ve quit fishing for trout (even tho I always found it an exciting sport) except during the winter when the smallmouth bass go silent. No matter how big the trout or what species, I’ve never had a trout fight as hard or jump as high as a smallmouth of equivalent size.  It’s a real blast. Get the book "Flyfishing for Smallmouth Bass" by Harry Murray of Edinburg, VA for all the neat tricks.   Have fun.   Jim

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Respecting Harry’s book and school and school of thought:  Excellent work and useful, but some variations I have found successful: 1.  HM mainly works the ‘Doah branches.  Even the largest, the South Fork, is fairly small water compared to the Potomac, James, New, Susquehanna, etc.  Often, small or large water is irrelevant since habitat is "micro", that is, unaffected by the size of the river.  At times, however, the total size issue is critical.  The Shenandoah has a very great density of smaller fish; this leads to different patterns.  Also, in a system dominated by large numbers of smaller fish, the effectiveness of nymph and crawdad patterns changes.  Larger fish will key on larger prey, and hellgrammites just don’t get that big.    Also, bigger water has heavier flow, negating some bottom-relating techniques Harry uses with great success unless you are willing to use heavier gear. 2.  In a boat, Harry’s lighter tackle/lighter tippet (than I prefer) techniques are less practical.  I rarely go below 1x or 6lb or so tippet, often staying up around 12 lb, especially in fluorocarbons.  I have noticed no reduction in fish size or numbers, and I am able to deliver larger flies and weighted flies with ease. 3.   A drifted, rather than a stripped, delivery is less practical for our purposes on the Potomac.  In bigger water, in a boat, with a larger fly, I usually wind up encouraging my clients to fish far and fast, though this may offend the purist.  When we wade fish away from the boat, a more thorough and deliberate approach is possible, but on a nine-mile float we have some water to cover. 4.  The Susquehanna and New rivers, which are very large both in flow rate and depth variation, often require an even more pronounced departure from the standard techniques as espoused by Harry.  My best fish on both rivers came on large flies (4"+) perhaps more suitable for the salt.  Fewer hits, of course, but serious quality fish and the possibility of an appearance by the next species up the food chain (genus Esox) is possible. 5.   We’re also talking about a heavier line here.  7 weight is standard, and up to a 9 is my first choice.  That way there is no compromise on distance and power.   I have great respect for Harry’s way, and it is always the starting point, but be aware that there are some further techniques to try. Dave

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