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I’m tying some PT Nymphs for a fly swap and decided to look at other patterns besides the one I’ve been tying in the past. I noticed that some have wings, while some just have the wing casing. Some people tie in lead, some copper wire, and some nothing at all for weight. Do you have a favorite recipe you use? Why? —
I like to use the Sawyer style PT nymph primarily because it is a good fish catching fly and is easy to tie up, requiring only PT fibres & fine copper wire (a little superglue is good to stop the wing case from being pulled apart by the trout’s teeth). The streams that I fish are rarely more than a few feet in depth, and so super fast sinking leaded flies are for me not required. The Sawyer PT nymphs are very streamlined in form, and this allows the fly to sink quite quickly given its mass.
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You are correct, in the sawyer pattern the thorax is copper too. Clark "Scott Seidman" < I think Sawyer is a little more than all pheasant tail– its all pheasant – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – tail with copper wire used for thread. Takes seconds to tie, and sinks like a rock
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I’m tying some PT Nymphs for a fly swap and decided to look at other patterns besides the one I’ve been tying in the past. I noticed that some have wings, while some just have the wing casing. Some people tie in lead, some copper wire, and some nothing at all for weight. Do you have a favorite recipe you use? Why?
I’ve never seen a PT nymph with "wings". I like Golden Pheasant tail rather than Ringneck Pheasant. Try it, and I think you’ll agree it has a slightly mottled look that is much more buggy looking. Of course, if you are imitating a specific nymph that is solid looking that won’t help. I color it with Pantone markers sometimes, olive or darker brown, etc. I’ve tried tying the original Sawyer Pheasant Tail, and I don’t like it. I’m sure it worked for him on his English chalk stream using his technique, but I don’t like "tying" them and I don’t like how they look for most of the streams I fish them in. I almost always use peacock for the thorax. If the peacock herl is long enough, you don’t need legs.
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I can’t recall having a problem with tail PT fibres breaking away to the point I’ve discarded a fly –
And so what if a couple tail fibers fall off anyway? Most people tie in 4 or 5 fibers anway, and *that’s* not natural. If a couple fall off, you’ve still got 2 or 3.
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Some of my mates prefer a clayton’s PT, (see the PTO in the flybox at http://www.flyflickers.com) where the tail used is red cock and the thorax is of brown seal. They like this brew because the tail (PT can be brittle in the tying) doesn’t break off while fishing. The thorax colour is to give a more uniform brown colouration to the fly – more like the natural. All well and good.
I like that. Also, you don’t need legs with that thorax, and using the copper wire like that, while still tying with thread, sounds like a good idea. I don’t understand the point in not using PT for the tail also, though.
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There’s lots of styles and it’s hard to make bad one. I think they’re best in size 16 and below.
I agree. I fish Sawyer’s river, the Avon, and find this to be true there. Lazarus
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I’m tying some PT Nymphs for a fly swap and decided to look at other patterns besides the one I’ve been tying in the past. I noticed that some have wings, while some just have the wing casing. Some people tie in lead, some copper wire, and some nothing at all for weight. Do you have a favorite recipe you use? Why? I’ve never seen a PT nymph with "wings".
My bad — I meant "legs" — TL, Tim
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I generally tie PT’s unweighted in the American style. Sometimes I used a wingcase, sometimes not. Sometimes legs, sometimes not. I will also rib it with different color wire. I especially like red copper. I also use a PT as an emerger and usually add a small wing of CDC or filoplume.
The one I normally tie (the first one I learned) is this: http://tinyurl.com/204w As you can see, the pattern as described is unweighted. I fish it with split shot providing the sink mechanism. From what most people have said here, they prefer a weighted nymph over this pattern. I’ve always held the thought that the nymph would swim better unweighted, but I normally fish relatively slow moving water. You mentioned red copper wire. I’m assuming you’ve had better luck with this color vs. the copper color. Do you have any thoughts on what would cause the fish to react better to the red? Thanks to all for the input so far. — TL, Tim
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You mentioned red copper wire. I’m assuming you’ve had better luck with this color vs. the copper color. Do you have any thoughts on what would cause the fish to react better to the red? I don’t know about that. I just like the way it looks and fish it more. Willi
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I can’t recall having a problem with tail PT fibres breaking away to the point I’ve discarded a fly – And so what if a couple tail fibers fall off anyway? Most people tie in 4 or 5 fibers anway, and *that’s* not natural. If a couple fall off, you’ve still got 2 or 3. I use PT for the tails but they do tend to get broken off after a couple fish. I think the fly looks better with tails but I’m not sure the fish care. Willi
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I’m tying some PT Nymphs for a fly swap and decided to look at other patterns besides the one I’ve been tying in the past. I noticed that some have wings, while some just have the wing casing. Some people tie in lead, some copper wire, and some nothing at all for weight. Do you have a favorite recipe you use? Why? — TL, Tim
I make the PT with copper thorax and ribbing but I don
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Thanks very much to everyone for he responses. We’re now saturated with new information. :=) –David – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We’re on our way to Labador (from Houston) and would like to hear from anyone who has driven their rig in the Newfoundland area. Especially interested in the tricks of the route, such as ferry experience, RV campgrounds, diesel fuel availabililty, road conditions, URLs, and any quirks you can think of that the newcomer to that area should know. Rig is 33′ fiver and one-ton pickup. I’m a dejanews fan but Google has gobbled it. –David
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Wallace McLean writes: Yes there is, from Blanc Sablon to St. Barbe.
Technically, you are correct; Blanc Sablon is in Quebec. But there is only, what, 50 miles of road into Labrador. It is very beautiful country. My meaning was that there is no ferry from any place in Quebec you can travel to by car. Last I knew, you can not drive to Blanc Sablon. Dave
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When we took the ferry in 1984, my understanding was that the ferry ended in Blanc Sablon, only because it was therefor an inter provincial ferry, and consequently was eligible for Federal subsidies! Of course, the fact that there were only about four miles of road before entering Labrador was conveniently overlooked, as that sort of thing usually is here in the states. Norm – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wallace McLean writes: Yes there is, from Blanc Sablon to St. Barbe. Technically, you are correct; Blanc Sablon is in Quebec. But there is only, what, 50 miles of road into Labrador. It is very beautiful country. My meaning was that there is no ferry from any place in Quebec you can travel to by car. Last I knew, you can not drive to Blanc Sablon. Dave
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Wallace McLean writes: Yes there is, from Blanc Sablon to St. Barbe. Technically, you are correct; Blanc Sablon is in Quebec. But there is only, what, 50 miles of road into Labrador. It is very beautiful country. My meaning was that there is no ferry from any place in Quebec you can travel to by car. Last I knew, you can not drive to Blanc Sablon.
You can, however, take another ferry to Blanc Sablon from teh Quebec highway network at Natashquan. — http://members.xoom.com/labradorian
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Forgot to add: There is a ferry service twice a week from Lewisporte (NF) to Goose Bay, but it is a long trip and (I imagine) expensive. It says "car", but nothing about RVs. If I was going to "do" New Foundland with an RV, I would do Nova Scotia first. It is much more interesting than Labrador. Labrador does not have much from Baie Coumo to Lab City, and only Churchill Falls from Lab City to Goose Bay. I am talking *nothing*. But, Nova Scotia has much to do and see and would be less expensive. Plus, ya don’t have to worry about gravel roads and lumber trucks. <g Go to the web site I’ve quoted or call the 1-800 number and they should be able to get a book to you before you leave. Dave
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We drove to Newfoundland (from the west coast of Canada) in the summer of 1999. We took the ferry from Cape Breton, Nova Scotia to Port Aux Basques, Newfoundland. We drove the 900 kilometres to St. John’s. Just outside St. John’s is Cape Spear which is the most easterly point in the continent. The ferry from Nova Scotia had no problem with even the largest of RVs. You’ll pay quite a bit for such a long load but considering the exchange on the US dollar, it probably won’t hurt that much. By the way, how can you pull a huge fifth wheel with a 1 ton truck? I had the idea that Newfoundland was just a big rock with fishing villages on the edge. Was I wrong! The interior of the province reminded me a lot of my own province BC. We camped at a site on a lake near Pasadena, just north of Cornerbrook, which could have been almost anywhere in BC. It was gorgeous. The people are wonderful. They are very friendly and helpful. The roads are not a problem at all. I can’t speak about the availability of diesel but there are certainly lots of trucks around so it must be relatively easy to find. Coming back we took the ferry from Argentia (about 100 kilometres southwest of St. John’s) back to Nova Scotia. This ferry runs only in the summer months (starts June 22 this year) and takes about 14 hours under normal circumstances. It saves having to backtrack the 900 kilometres to Port Aux Basques. When we went there was quite a wind so they took several hours removing chains from the vehicles on the car deck and then putting chains on our rigs. That turned the trip into almost 24 hours. Be sure to make reservations for the ferry. Check out the Marine Atlantic web site at http://www.marine-atlantic.ca We haven’t been to Labrador but I see there is a ferry service from Newfoundland to Labrador. Check out http://www.gov.nf.ca/ferryservices/ for the routes. There seems to be one that goes from St. Anthony but it looks like it doesn’t start until July 1 and it doesn’t seem to take vehicles. The other route seems to be from St. Barbe in Newfoundland and it starts May 1 and takes vehicles. The long option would be to come through Quebec of course. Have a wonderful trip. Allan
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We’re on our way to Labador (from Houston) and would like to hear from anyone who has driven their rig in the Newfoundland area. Especially interested in the tricks of the route, such as ferry experience, RV campgrounds, diesel fuel availabililty, road conditions, URLs, and any quirks you can think of that the newcomer to that area should know. Rig is 33′ fiver and one-ton pickup. I’m a dejanews fan but Google has gobbled it. –David
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Hi Jay, I was wondering if your the average troll or just another attention whore, It seems to me judging from your responses to people asking legitmate questions that your more of an attention whore, So which is it? (Both maybe) Regards, Boats
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Hi Jay, I was wondering if your the average troll or just another attention whore, It seems to me judging from your responses to people asking legitmate questions that your more of an attention whore, So which is it? (Both maybe) Regards, Boats
So – another WebTVer has all the answers! NOT!! Tom J
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In ‘84, we went across from North Sidney, NS to Port aux Basques, and on up the West coast of Newfoundland to At. Anthony. While up in that area, we took the ferry from St. Barbe over to Blanc Sablon, QUE. At that time the only road from there went about 50 miles up to Red Bay, and the first thirty was even paved! We only spent one night (Pinware River) due to the huge number of black flies (in August). At that time, there was a lot of archeological activity going on in Red Bay. We had an F250 pickup with a tent trailer, and there was not problem at all on the ferries. Norm – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We’re on our way to Labador (from Houston) and would like to hear from anyone who has driven their rig in the Newfoundland area. Especially interested in the tricks of the route, such as ferry experience, RV campgrounds, diesel fuel availabililty, road conditions, URLs, and any quirks you can think of that the newcomer to that area should know. Rig is 33′ fiver and one-ton pickup. I’m a dejanews fan but Google has gobbled it. –David
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Now Tom. If you really knew anything about us "webtvers" you would know we’re called "Webbies", but since your a newbie I guess we’ll let it slide, Good luck with yor new computer, Regards "Boats"
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We went to Newfoundland in 1997 for three weeks.The island is large.It is about 500 miles across.You can see Labador when you are in the north end of the island.I would check it out but I am sure you can cross from there to Labrador by a ferry in that area.We had a great 3 weeks on the island and spent most of the time on the coast .I would say it as nice as BC coast with out the mountains. No problems finding a cg to stop for the night and the price was about 10 -25$ Most things cost more on the island but I would go again any time.The ferry cost me 450$ Canadian. This was for a return trip so that is why we stayed 3 weeks. I hope this helps some and have a good trip.. Lyle. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We’re on our way to Labador (from Houston) and would like to hear from anyone who has driven their rig in the Newfoundland area. Especially interested in the tricks of the route, such as ferry experience, RV campgrounds, diesel fuel availabililty, road conditions, URLs, and any quirks you can think of that the newcomer to that area should know. Rig is 33′ fiver and one-ton pickup. I’m a dejanews fan but Google has gobbled it. –David
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Rosemary Catherwood writes: You can see Labador when you are in the north end of the island.I would check it out but I am sure you can cross from there to Labrador by a ferry in that area.
What you see fron the northwest coast of New Foundland is indeed Labrador and Quebec. A ferry runs from St. Barbe to Blanc Sabon, Quebec. However, once there, you have only about 40 miles of road. The ferry to Goose Bay, Labrador leaves Lewisporte, NF twice a week and is very expensive. If it cost you $450 Canadian from Nova Scotia to NF, I should think the trip from Lewisporte to Labrador would be twice that – it is twice as far. And, unlike New Fourndland, there is little to see/do in Labrador — except fish for big brook trout. <g Dave
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Now Tom. If you really knew anything about us "webtvers" you would know we’re called "Webbies", but since your a newbie I guess we’ll let it slide, Good luck with yor new computer,
Sonny boy, I have had a computer continuously since 1974. How long have you been a WebTVer? There are some great people using WebTV but there are a great many more horses rear ends – like you!! — Tom J http://www.geocities.com/aviontravelcade/ http://www.geocities.com/tomj_ga/ Are we having fun yet?
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Hi Dave, This is a trip that we enjoyed very much from coast to coast and would go again even if it cost a lot to get there.But I said I would fly there next time from Ont Canada and rent a car and do B& B when in Newfoundland and see a lot of things we had missed the first time.You will find everyone there is very helpful. and I am sure you will have a good time. Please let us know when you return what you think of the trip after your visit to the island. PS one thing I will tell you that we did not know is that before you return to the main land they wash down your rig and you are not allowed any potatoes on the return trip.I do not know to this day why? Have a good trip . Lyle in South Ont CA. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Rosemary Catherwood writes: You can see Labador when you are in the north end of the island.I would check it out but I am sure you can cross from there to Labrador by a ferry in that area. What you see fron the northwest coast of New Foundland is indeed Labrador and Quebec. A ferry runs from St. Barbe to Blanc Sabon, Quebec. However, once there, you have only about 40 miles of road. The ferry to Goose Bay, Labrador leaves Lewisporte, NF twice a week and is very expensive. If it cost you $450 Canadian from Nova Scotia to NF, I should think the trip from Lewisporte to Labrador would be twice that – it is twice as far. And, unlike New Fourndland, there is little to see/do in Labrador — except fish for big brook trout. <g Dave
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Rosemary Catherwood writes: Hi Dave, This is a trip that we enjoyed very much from coast to coast and would go again even if it cost a lot to get there.
(snip for brevity) Hi, Rosemary. Actually I was answering someone else that had plans on making the trip. I have been to NF and you are correct — it is a wonderful place to spend lots of time. I have driven to Labrador from Quebec to Labrador City/Wabush for a float-plane flyout with my grandsons to fish for enormous brook trout. There really is not much in Labrador, but NF is an entirely different story. We are new to RVing, but I am planning on NF as a destination in the future. Can’t beat the $ exchange rate either. <g Dave Dave
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Whoops, when I mentioned that it cost $450.00(Canadian) for the ferry trip between North Sydney,Nova Scotia, and Port au Basques,Newfoundland, I neglected to say that was the price of 2 passengers,in a 26 ft. motorhome,and that we sailed from Argentia,Newfoundland on the return trip.(twice the distance on the return trip) Lyle Catherwood – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – We’re on our way to Labador (from Houston) and would like to hear from anyone who has driven their rig in the Newfoundland area. Especially interested in the tricks of the route, such as ferry experience, RV campgrounds, diesel fuel availabililty, road conditions, URLs, and any quirks you can think of that the newcomer to that area should know. Rig is 33′ fiver and one-ton pickup. I’m a dejanews fan but Google has gobbled it. –David
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In ‘84, we went across from North Sidney, NS to Port aux Basques, and on up the West coast of Newfoundland to At. Anthony. While up in that area, we took the ferry from St. Barbe over to Blanc Sablon, QUE. At that time the only road from there went about 50 miles up to Red Bay, and the first thirty was even paved! We only spent one night (Pinware
It is paved all the way east to Red Bay, and all the way west to St. Paul’s River. From St. Paul’s River west is a gravel road under reconstruction to Old Fort Bay; NE of Red Bay the gravel highway continues to Mary’s Harbour (from where you can go to Battle Harbour National Historic District by boat), and will be extended as far as Cartwright within two years. River) due to the huge number of black flies (in August). At that time, there was a lot of archeological activity going on in Red Bay. We had an F250 pickup with a tent trailer, and there was not problem at all on the ferries.
– http://members.xoom.com/labradorian
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We’re on our way to Labador (from Houston) and would like to hear from anyone who has driven their rig in the Newfoundland area. Especially interested in the tricks of the route, such as ferry experience, RV campgrounds, diesel fuel availabililty, road conditions, URLs, and any quirks you can think of that the newcomer to that area should know. Rig is 33′ fiver and one-ton pickup. I’m a dejanews fan but Google has gobbled it. –David
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Well, personally, I’ve had good luck with Labradors, indeed any retriever makes a fine pet. They’re loyal, smart (for a dog), and good companions. Newfoundlands I haven’t had any experience with, sorry. HTH Jay — * Jay Denebeim Moderator rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated *
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Dave Ellis writes: We’re on our way to Labador (from Houston) and would like to hear from anyone who has driven their rig in the Newfoundland area.
Uh, you are talking two different places. Labrador is on the main land (north and east of Quebec), while New Foundland is an island off of the Lab coast. Labrador has one road leading in and out, and that is Rt380 from Baie Comeau to Lab City. I would NOT recommend this route with an RV. It is mostly gravel and the lumber trucks are very treacherous. For info on New Foundland, e-mail addes: and phone number 1-800-563-NFLD You may find this helpful also: http://public.gov.nf.ca/tourism They will send you a nice book about the province. Good luck. HTH. d;0 Dave
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I have friends who drove the road in Labrador with an RV. The entered from Quebec then took the Ferry over to Newfoundland Isle’s. They went with friends who had a fifth wheel. They had no problems with the gravel road. I’ve talked to their tourist bureau and they indicate that TT’s/RV’s should not have a problem. Al
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Dave Ellis writes: We’re on our way to Labador (from Houston) and would like to hear from anyone who has driven their rig in the Newfoundland area. Uh, you are talking two different places. Labrador is on the main land (north and east of Quebec), while New Foundland is an island off of the Lab coast. Labrador has one road leading in and out, and that is Rt380 from Baie Comeau to Lab City. I would NOT recommend this route with an RV. It is mostly gravel and the lumber trucks are very treacherous. For info on New Foundland, e-mail addes: and phone number 1-800-563-NFLD You may find this helpful also: http://public.gov.nf.ca/tourism They will send you a nice book about the province. Good luck. HTH. d;0 Dave
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Al Rolle writes: I have friends who drove the road in Labrador with an RV. The entered from Quebec then took the Ferry over to Newfoundland Isle’s. They went with friends who had a fifth wheel. They had no problems with the gravel road. I’ve talked to their tourist bureau and they indicate that TT’s/RV’s should not have a problem. Al
There is only one road that leads into Labrador and that is Rt. 389 from Baie Comeau, Quebec. Most of the road is gravel and you will constantly be traveling with or against lumber trucks that throw up big stones when they are in front of you or when they pass you. I have driven it three times — I go fly fishing in Labrador every July. Rt. 389 ends in Lab City/Wabush. If you want to go farther, you use the trans-labrador highway (#500) which ends at Goose Bay/Happy Valley. ALL of Rt 500 is gravel, and although picturesque, it is a rough drive. Taking a ferry (actually it is called the iceberg cruise) from Goose Bay to New Foundland (the island) would be very expensive. There is no ferry from Quebec to New Foundland; all the ferries run from Nova Scotia. The reason there is no ferry service to/from Quebec is that there are no roads much past Sept Isles which is way the hell away from New Foundland. From the Tourist Bureau’s book: "Marine Atlantic’s modern car ferries also accommodate RVs all year round from North Syndney, Nova Scotia to Port Aux Basques in south western New Foundland. Throughout the summer, a second ferry sails from North Sydney to Argentia, bringing you to within an hour or two of St. Johns." Dave
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want to go farther, you use the trans-labrador highway (#500) which ends at Goose Bay/Happy Valley. ALL of Rt 500 is gravel, and although picturesque, it is a rough drive. Taking a ferry (actually it is called the iceberg cruise) from Goose Bay to New Foundland (the island) would be very expensive. There is no ferry from Quebec to New Foundland; all the ferries run from Nova Scotia.
Yes there is, from Blanc Sablon to St. Barbe. The reason there is no ferry service to/from Quebec is that there are no roads much past Sept Isles which is way the hell away from New Foundland.
The road goes about 300km east of Sept-Iles to Natashquan, paved the whole way. From Natashquan there is a passenger/freighter to isolated ports as far as Blanc Sablon, on which you can ship certain sized vehicles (inc. campervans) as freight. — http://members.xoom.com/labradorian
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Forgot to add: There is a ferry service twice a week from Lewisporte (NF) to Goose Bay, but it is a long trip and (I imagine) expensive. It says "car", but nothing about RVs.
Yes, you can. All types of vehicles travel on this ferry. If I was going to "do" New Foundland with an RV, I would do Nova Scotia first.
Newfoundland is one word. It is much more interesting than Labrador. Labrador does not have much from Baie Coumo to Lab City, and only Churchill Falls from Lab City to Goose Bay. I am talking *nothing*. But, Nova Scotia has much to do and see and would be
Depends on your definition of "nothing". There is plenty of great hiking, canoeing, etc. less expensive. Plus, ya don’t have to worry about gravel roads and lumber trucks. <g Go to the web site I’ve quoted or call the 1-800 number and they should be able to get a book to you before you leave. Dave
– http://members.xoom.com/labradorian
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Rosemary Catherwood writes: You can see Labador when you are in the north end of the island.I would check it out but I am sure you can cross from there to Labrador by a ferry in that area. What you see fron the northwest coast of New Foundland is indeed Labrador and Quebec. A ferry runs from St. Barbe to Blanc Sabon, Quebec. However, once there, you have only about 40 miles of road. The ferry to Goose Bay, Labrador
Actually, you have 80km west to Old Fort Bay on the Lower North Shore; 70km paved east to Red Bay, and another 80 or 90 gravel to Mary’s Harbour beyond that. leaves Lewisporte, NF twice a week and is very expensive. If it cost you $450 Canadian from Nova Scotia to NF, I should think the trip from Lewisporte to Labrador would be twice that – it is twice as far. And, unlike New Fourndland,
Here are the most recent fares for the Sir Robert Bond, which connects Lewisport Nfld with Cartwright and Goose Bay, Labrador: http://www.gov.nf.ca/ferryservices/schedules/E-bond.htm there is little to see/do in Labrador — except fish for big brook trout. <g
Depends on your definition of "little". If you have done "little" research, and have "little" energy, imagination, or interests, you will find little to do in Labrador. You’ll find the same thing in New York or Paris. — http://members.xoom.com/labradorian
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Hi Paint Island, Bordentown? That’s almost next door to me (Perrineville). How can I get to your place from I-195? Are you going to be at Paddlesport ‘99 in Somerset? re:where to put the fish – I was thinking in the compartment in the back of the yak… Roger D.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Greetings from Paint Island Canoe & Kayak in Bordentown, NJ. Depending upon the size of the fish you may catch may also play a roll in what boat you chose. It also brings to mind a story in a seakayaker magazine about 2 years ago where a northwest coast paddler hooked a fish that pulled him for miles before the yaker gained control. In that case, or if you ever see this as a possibility, I would lean towards the bigger boat just in case you wind up further away from anywhere. You certainly will not go wrong with the Current Designs boats. Where will you put the fish you catch? Ron Paint Island Canoe & Kayak http://www.riversport.com/paintisland/
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Greetings from Paint Island Canoe & Kayak in Bordentown, NJ. Depending upon the size of the fish you may catch may also play a roll in what boat you chose. It also brings to mind a story in a seakayaker magazine about 2 years ago where a northwest coast paddler hooked a fish that pulled him for miles before the yaker gained control. In that case, or if you ever see this as a possibility, I would lean towards the bigger boat just in case you wind up further away from anywhere. You certainly will not go wrong with the Current Designs boats. Where will you put the fish you catch? Ron Paint Island Canoe & Kayak http://www.riversport.com/paintisland/
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Greetings from Paint Island Canoe & Kayak in Bordentown, NJ. Depending upon the size of the fish you may catch may also play a roll in what boat you chose. It also brings to mind a story in a seakayaker magazine about 2 years ago where a northwest coast paddler hooked a fish that pulled him for miles before the yaker gained control. In that case, or if you ever see this as a possibility, I would lean towards the bigger boat just in case you wind up further away from anywhere.
About a block or so from where I live is one of the major tributaries to Cayuga lake. Ever late spring some really large carp come up into it to spawn (there are also some large rainbow, lake trout, brown trout, and landlock salmon that come up other times of the year). I’ve got a little Aquaterra Caspia that I put in there with my flyrod. Along with my regular paddle I bring a small hand paddle for manoevering about. I’ve hooked several fish that have pulled me several hundred feet up and down the river, a couple of which I had on for over 20 minutes before they broke off. I saw a fish there in the fall that was over 3′ long and easily 25 pounds. You certainly will not go wrong with the Current Designs boats. Where will you put the fish you catch?
Good question. Although Current Designs makes some really nice boats I can’t think of any of the models that would be good for fishing out of. One of the nice things about the Caspia is that it has a large cockpit and when I fish from it I don’t use a spray skirt. Something like an Old Town Loon 138 would also be good for kayak fishing because of the large cockpit and good initial stability. When someone comes here asking about a good kayak for fishing I see two different types of conditions. There is the "getting from point A to point B" and then getting out to fish, and there are situations where one would want to fish while sitting in the boat. For the latter type of fishing, a wide, stable kayak would be the best choice. For the former, a kayak which will cover distance a little quicker might be better. Most of the CD boats would be good for getting from point to point B, but not so good to actually fish from. John Fereira Stop Unsolicited Commercial Email – Join CAUCE (http://www.cauce.org) Support HR 1748, the anti-spam bill.
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O.K., tough choice. I’m moving from a sit-on-top to a sit-inside. I want a kayak for fishing up to 2 miles off the (East) coast & back-bays. Yes, I know there will be a transition, but I’m looking for a long term solution that I’ll ‘mature’ into. Any suggestions are welcome?
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O.K., tough choice. I’m moving from a sit-on-top to a sit-inside. I want a kayak for fishing up to 2 miles off the (East) coast & back-bays. Yes, I know there will be a transition, but I’m looking for a long term solution that I’ll ‘mature’ into. Any suggestions are welcome?
There is quite a bit of a difference between the Current Designs Pachena and the Solstice GT. You didn’t mention what kind of SOT boat that you are paddling now but the transition between that and the Solstice GT is likely going to be difficult. I’ve done a bit of fishing (fly) out of a kayak and I can’t imagine trying to do it out of a Solstice. It’s initial stability is pretty low and for fishing, you’ll want something that you don’t have to even think about maintaining upright. The Pachena would likely be a much better choice for your needs. Something like the Seda Viking at 16′6" and 24" wide would probably also be a good choice in a fiberglass boat. John Fereira Stop Unsolicited Commercial Email – Join CAUCE (http://www.cauce.org) Support HR 1748, the anti-spam bill.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dear All, I am considering a move to albany new york. Aside fromit being incredibly cold for a good part of the year, i know nothing about the outdoor possibilities there. I do like to fish a lot, and did so quite regularly in north carolina mountains while in grad school. can someone tell me please, what the fly fishing is like up in the albany area ( ad I am considerein driving as much as 3-4 hours if need be from the area to fish, that is what i did in nc). any advice, or ideas on books to look at, would be helpful. many many many thanks to al, edwin aguilar Considering that Albany gives you tremendous access to Vermont, Lake Champlain, and the Catskills (about 2 hrs. south), you’ll probably not have enough time to get to it all!
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can someone tell me please, what the fly fishing is like up in the albany area ( ad I am considerein driving as much as 3-4 hours if need be from the area to fish, that is what i did in nc).
Within that range you have your choice of: — Catskill Mts. (trout) — Adirondack Mts. (trout) — Finger Lakes (bass and some trout) — Lakes Ontario and Champlain (salmon, walleye, lake trout.) — | Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs, | | Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734 |
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I live about 1hr south of Albany and there are great fishing opportunities in literally every direction. Some are literally right in your backyard like the upper end of Schoharie Creek, Schenevus Creek (about 40minutes South on I-88) and Charlotte Creek a little further down the road. There are also alot of "Blue Ribbon" streams within comfortable driving distance in the Adirondacks, Vermont and Catskills. Some good reference books I got alot of use from are "Good Fishing in the Catskills" and "Good Fishing in the Adirondacks" not sure of the authors but if your interested just shoot me an e-mail and I’ll be glad to forward the Author and ISBN#’s. Good Fishing C. Segina
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The auther of those books is Jim Capposela. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I live about 1hr south of Albany and there are great fishing opportunities in literally every direction. Some are literally right in your backyard like the upper end of Schoharie Creek, Schenevus Creek (about 40minutes South on I-88) and Charlotte Creek a little further down the road. There are also alot of "Blue Ribbon" streams within comfortable driving distance in the Adirondacks, Vermont and Catskills. Some good reference books I got alot of use from are "Good Fishing in the Catskills" and "Good Fishing in the Adirondacks" not sure of the authors but if your interested just shoot me an e-mail and I’ll be glad to forward the Author and ISBN#’s. Good Fishing C. Segina
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Dear All, I am considering a move to albany new york. Aside fromit being incredibly cold for a good part of the year, i know nothing about the outdoor possibilities there. I do like to fish a lot, and did so quite regularly in north carolina mountains while in grad school. can someone tell me please, what the fly fishing is like up in the albany area ( ad I am considerein driving as much as 3-4 hours if need be from the area to fish, that is what i did in nc). any advice, or ideas on books to look at, would be helpful. many many many thanks to al, edwin aguilar
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