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My wife & I are looking forward to attending this show in February. Any Roffians planning to attend?  I would love to meet up and perhaps share a beverage or two. Seattle, Washington, Meydenbauer Center in Bellevue, Feb 22 – 23, 2003 www.flyfishingshow.com Let me know…and we can arrange a meeting time and place at the show???

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My wife & I are looking forward to attending this show in February. Any Roffians planning to attend?  I would love to meet up and perhaps share a beverage or two. Seattle, Washington, Meydenbauer Center in Bellevue, Feb 22 – 23, 2003 www.flyfishingshow.com Let me know…and we can arrange a meeting time and place at the show???

I’d love to get over there, but at this time I can’t make any plan’s. I’ll let you know closer to the time if I’m going to make it. Darin

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I’m going.  Don’t know the detail just yet.   Is that a three day weekend? If so we may go and see how the rich and famous in Bellevue live.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My wife & I are looking forward to attending this show in February. Any Roffians planning to attend?  I would love to meet up and perhaps share a beverage or two. Seattle, Washington, Meydenbauer Center in Bellevue, Feb 22 – 23, 2003 www.flyfishingshow.com Let me know…and we can arrange a meeting time and place at the show???

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Yeah I know, but I was angling for something more based on your other reply. I don’t know, like free ATV rides or fishing gear or something…

There’s no such thing as a free ATV ride!  Just ask Ken F. Op  –marked for life–

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Opie, your flies are totally the most awesomest and plus also you’re the bestest master fly tier ever. Hey the offer has been made to you on numerous occasions, but I think you are a fraidy-cat, or ya just don’t believe me when I say I have locks on all the bedroom doors? Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think he knows which side of the doors the locks are on.     Op  –not fooled by any liars, but I can be swayed– It’d take a pretty stiff breeze though. Wolfgang

You’re just itchin’ for a fight, aren’t you? Op  –none too prissy to kick a rats ass-kisser–

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Opie, your flies are totally the most awesomest and plus also you’re the bestest master fly tier ever. Hey the offer has been made to you on numerous occasions, but I think you are a fraidy-cat, or ya just don’t believe me when I say I have locks on all the bedroom doors?

Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think he knows which side of the doors the locks are on.     Op  –not fooled by any liars, but I can be swayed–

It’d take a pretty stiff breeze though. Wolfgang

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Opie, your flies are totally the most awesomest and plus also you’re the bestest master fly tier ever. Hey the offer has been made to you on numerous occasions, but I think you are a fraidy-cat, or ya just don’t believe me when I say I have locks on all the bedroom doors?

Yeah I know, but I was angling for something more based on your other reply. I don’t know, like free ATV rides or fishing gear or something…

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So you finally got mine John?  I have no problem with it. Yes, yours and Jeff’s arrived Friday, and Mu’s today.  If I post the photo, though, Op, the whole world is going to know all this bad-mouthing of your tying skills was a fraud.  Damn nice fly for someone who’s only been tying a couple of months.  In fact, damn nice fly, period. JR

You are too kind sir!  Ya know ya got a free bed anytime ya feel the need to fish or whatever in NC. Op  –really, I’m quite harmless–

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Yes, yours and Jeff’s arrived Friday, and Mu’s today.  If I post the photo, though, Op, the whole world is going to know all this bad-mouthing of your tying skills was a fraud.  Damn nice fly for someone who’s only been tying a couple of months.  In fact, damn nice fly, period. JR You are too kind sir!  Ya know ya got a free bed anytime ya feel the need to fish or whatever in NC.

Opie, your flies are totally the most awesomest and plus also you’re the bestest master fly tier ever.

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Opie, your flies are totally the most awesomest and plus also you’re the bestest master fly tier ever.

Hey the offer has been made to you on numerous occasions, but I think you are a fraidy-cat, or ya just don’t believe me when I say I have locks on all the bedroom doors? Op  –not fooled by any liars, but I can be swayed–

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So you finally got mine John?  I have no problem with it. Yes, yours and Jeff’s arrived Friday, and Mu’s today.  If I post the photo, though, Op, the whole world is going to know all this bad-mouthing of your tying skills was a fraud.  Damn nice fly for someone who’s only been tying a couple of months.  In fact, damn nice fly, period.

Dang!  Opie sent the good one to the guy with the camera!  Why didn’t I think of that??

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF? JR

So you finally got mine John?  I have no problem with it. Op

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF?

I assume you finally got mine then.  Fine with me, thanks.

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF? JR

Fine with me but I never got Mu’s tie. Willi

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Fine with me but I never got Mu’s tie. Willi

I just got Mu’s flyz on Sat. Willi, but still ain’t got my big swap flyz? Op

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF?

No problem.  Shouldn’t there be 6 flies though? Mu

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So you finally got mine John?  I have no problem with it.

Yes, yours and Jeff’s arrived Friday, and Mu’s today.  If I post the photo, though, Op, the whole world is going to know all this bad-mouthing of your tying skills was a fraud.  Damn nice fly for someone who’s only been tying a couple of months.  In fact, damn nice fly, period. JR

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF? No problem.  Shouldn’t there be 6 flies though?

Thanks, Mu.  Yes, there should be six. JR

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Yes, yours and Jeff’s arrived Friday, and Mu’s today.

How strange.  How did the east coast guys get my flies before you and Willi?  Also how did I get Jeff & Opie’s flies about a week before you did? Mu

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I’ve got a photo of the five PTs done for the recently completed one-fly swap.  Do any of the participants mind if I post it to ABPF? JR

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Try looking into books by Oliver Edwards.

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This year I want to try some realistic fly tying. No, not for fishing but for the fun of it. (More honestly to look how good I can handle it!) If anyone can give me some advice on it I would deeply appreciate it. I

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Mike Connor: <<Is it my imagination, or is there more bitterness and acrimony than usual on ROFF tonight ? It ain’t your imagination, Mike.  I have let me feud with George Gehrke bleed onto these pages and for that I am sorry.  My apologies to you and to all of ROFFdom. Dave LaCourse

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My father told me a long time ago, "If you cant say something good about somebody, then keep your mouth shut", my father was a very wise man. Unfortunate indeed that I was never able to follow his advice to the letter. However this may be, anybody fancy a try ?  We are a common interest group, with an extremely broad base, but we ought to be able to agree on something. What is it ? Any suggestions ? Why are we here ? What do we wish to achieve

You’re right Mike, lifes too fricking short and time astream is not enough…. So I’ll start…. George, I’ll say this for you positively , you’ve got balls and I admire that quality in you. Wayne Knight (remove nospam to respond via mail) Expert in the creation of  wind knots and tailing loops.

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I’m up for it Mike. Tim Apple — "Bamboo is Better"

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I like this idea! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I would make an alternative proposal: That each and every single one of us just shuts up and goes fishing for a few days. That’s right.. starting, say Wednesday night (Greenwich time, minus five hours) nobody posts to ROFF until they’ve spent at least two consecutive days fishing.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Is it my imagination, or is there more bitterness and acrimony than usual on ROFF tonight ? You know, one of the main reasons I am more or less hopelessly addicted to this place, is that it removes me from my not inconsiderable everyday problems and worries, much as fishing itself does, although in a different way.  I feel I know many of you, far more intimately than one might imagine, given the intrinsic limitations. This is a very strange medium, and I wonder what exciting new aspects of humanity will arise from it. Hopefully not just negative ones. At the moment the medium is restricted to those with the wherewithal and intelligence to participate, this is however increasing daily, and will hopefully result in considerably improved communications on a wide scale.  It seems almost sacrilegious to waste such an opportunity with petty personal feuds. When  I see you kicking the verbal shit out of each other, however justified this may seem to be to the one or the other at the time, it actually hurts me personally, to my own surprise and consternation. I would dearly love to know the reason. Distance and lack of personal knowledge are not sufficient to explain this. Whatever,  I would like to propose a "be nice on ROFF week ". This does not even require any positive effort on the part of the participants. My father told me a long time ago, "If you cant say something good about somebody, then keep your mouth shut", my father was a very wise man. Unfortunate indeed that I was never able to follow his advice to the letter. However this may be, anybody fancy a try ?  We are a common interest group, with an extremely broad base, but we ought to be able to agree on something. What is it ? Any suggestions ? Why are we here ? What do we wish to achieve ? I am genuinely interested, what keeps us here ? Why do we continue in the face of sometimes frightful insults and aspersions ? Things that in normal life would result in at least a riot ? Give it some thought. Tight lines ! Mike Connor

What keeps me coming back as a newbie is I’m addicted to flyfishing and this is my fishing when I can’t be on the water (which is most of the time .) I love this sport and I enjoy reading this ng. I’ve learned quite a bit in the short time that I’ve been here and I hope to learn a hell of a lot more. I plan on being here for a long time. I’ve also really enjoyed your stories too Mike, I actually sit down here and wonder what you’ve written this time. Thanks and keep up the great stories. Tight lines, Darin

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Thanks Darin, my pleasure, glad you enjoy them. TL MC

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I think if you re-sort the list by sender (or by thread, for that matter) you’ll see the vocal "WE" are small in number and the frequent posters are repetitive in nature, especially on certain subjects. I attempt to limit myself to the threads of genuine interest to me, reviewing the new posts by: 1) Topic 2) Sender 3) Lines and then determine what I really want to read…after reading those, I then choose "MARK ALL READ" and go away until some later time. What keeps me here?  About 3% of the posts….. Larry #:)# Enjoy the eclipse, those of you that get to see it live….for us on the West Coast of the US, it’s on www.exploratorium.edu beginning at 3am PST. Hey Mike….do you get TWO evening hatches today????  =8^0

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Is it my imagination, or is there more bitterness and acrimony than usual on ROFF tonight ? You know, one of the main reasons I am more or less hopelessly addicted to this place, is that it removes me from my not inconsiderable everyday problems and worries, much as fishing itself does, although in a different way.  I feel I know many of you, far more intimately than one might imagine, given the intrinsic limitations. This is a very strange medium, and I wonder what exciting new aspects of humanity will arise from it. Hopefully not just negative ones. At the moment the medium is restricted to those with the wherewithal and intelligence to participate, this is however increasing daily, and will hopefully result in considerably improved communications on a wide scale.  It seems almost sacrilegious to waste such an opportunity with petty personal feuds. When  I see you kicking the verbal shit out of each other, however justified this may seem to be to the one or the other at the time, it actually hurts me personally, to my own surprise and consternation. I would dearly love to know the reason. Distance and lack of personal knowledge are not sufficient to explain this. Whatever,  I would like to propose a "be nice on ROFF week ". This does not even require any positive effort on the part of the participants. My father told me a long time ago, "If you cant say something good about somebody, then keep your mouth shut", my father was a very wise man. Unfortunate indeed that I was never able to follow his advice to the letter. However this may be, anybody fancy a try ?  We are a common interest group, with an extremely broad base, but we ought to be able to agree on something. What is it ? Any suggestions ? Why are we here ? What do we wish to achieve ? I am genuinely interested, what keeps us here ? Why do we continue in the face of sometimes frightful insults and aspersions ? Things that in normal life would result in at least a riot ? Give it some thought. Tight lines ! Mike Connor

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—–BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE—– When  I see you kicking the verbal shit out of each other, however justified this may seem to be to the one or the other at the time, it actually hurts me personally, to my own surprise and consternation. I would dearly love to know the reason.

I don’t know about how things have been where you are, but for the last few weeks it’s been unbearably hot in parts of the US. Hot weather for long stretches tends to shorten tempers, I’ve noticed. It might also be that you’re normally a peacemaker type and thus more likely to notice such things. It could be multiple threads going on about topics that are controversial here, such as C&R or dam breeching, or unpleasant ones such as the guy who won’t shut up about the Hardy reel on ebay. Whatever,  I would like to propose a "be nice on ROFF week ". This does not even require any positive effort on the part of the participants.

I’m game. Of course, I’m going to be offline for a few weeks with dreams of wetting a line in the St. Joseph river than the Florida Intracoastal Waterway, so it won’t be hard for me to refrain from online rudeness. I am genuinely interested, what keeps us here ? Why do we continue in the face of sometimes frightful insults and aspersions ? Things that in normal life would result in at least a riot ?

I can think of a couple of reasons. For one thing, we’ve a swarm of curmudgeonly bastards here. Old-fashioned gentlemen, and young folks who aspire to be old curmudgeonly bastards someday. In crowds like that, a certain amount of shit-slinging is practically background noise in that you notice it only when it stops. The reason why several of us have Golden Retrievers is that few of us are like them. Not to mention, we do have that common interest: fishing. Fishing is pretty fundamental, and helps to moderate the worst of the virtual carnage. At any rate, I don’t see ROFF becoming a love-in. If nothing else, I would dearly like to not see any single one of you naked. I’m sorry, but my tastes are limited to women within four years of my ripe old practically senile 23. I doubt that any of you qualify. I would make an alternative proposal: That each and every single one of us just shuts up and goes fishing for a few days. That’s right.. starting, say Wednesday night (Greenwich time, minus five hours) nobody posts to ROFF until they’ve spent at least two consecutive days fishing. Look at it this way: We’re all either abrasive old bastards or abrasive young bastards. How do you thing George picked the name for his fly rod project? You can’t stuff twenty of them into one newsgroup without at least a little friction. And yet, when you got a bunch of them into the same room, what did they do? They drank, laughed, went fishing, and drank some more. And if we ever decide to have one in the midwest or the Rockies (or I can figure out travel to NC), I’d be there in a heartbeat. Even after having friction with some of the other people likely to be there, what’s the worst that could happen? That I’d have to drink with fellow fishermen? Please don’t throw this here po’ b’rer rabbit inta that mean ol’ briar patch! —–BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE—– Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBN7E52ckBcsCVVLK5AQFlxwQAib10NUq3IcFIDOofXN3xhP77O63ihWXB LBNuADgWBCyJboFoY6/yzLwmRA+g8IOlPPeW5UGIzxJGmD3ebHiE47+oGNrtdLtN v4v2E1ouzd6Fkf4ybdLtam9J2bmll7iit8ylAChDfQ2wmEN6KWdAyUc4I+oJ44KS QSaCeykGu8Q= =QnA3 —–END PGP SIGNATURE—– God invented beer and fishing so that 20-something Kansas Jayhawkers wouldn’t take over the world -me

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I will be in the Pocatello, Idaho area in the next couple of weeks, and was wondering if someone could point me to some fly fishing streams. I won’t have a lot of time, so the closer the better.

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Try Portneuf River near Bancroft (just below Chesterfield Reservoir – in fact, try the reservoir) – 1 hour east, Fort Hall Bottoms spring creeks- 40 min north, South Fork Snake River – 1-1/2 to 2-1/2 hours north, Henry’s Fork – 2 hours north, Silver Creek – 2 hours northwest, or a horde of reservoirs within an hour and a half south and east. Stop in at Jimmy’s All Seasons Angler in Pocatello for the latest info. Lance Hankins – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I will be in the Pocatello, Idaho area in the next couple of weeks, and was wondering if someone could point me to some fly fishing streams. I won’t have a lot of time, so the closer the better.

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When I was young, a teacher of mine read from a book about fly fishing on the Brule river in Wisconsin.  Wondering if anyone knows the name of that writer or the name of any of those books.   — jm

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Gordon MacQuarrie stories, published in the 40’s and 50’s in outdoor magazines, were collected in 3 volumes as "Stories of the Old Duck Hunters", "More Stories of the ODHs" and (I think) "Last Stories of the ODHs".  About half the stories are hunting, half are fishing, mainly on the Brule.  Then there was a fourth volume, "Lost Stories of the ODH", which was stuff they missed the first time thru. Gordon MacQuarrie is my favorite fishing author.  Traver and Gierach and others get as good occasionally, but every MacQuarrie story is excellent.  Henry VanDyke is a close second.   Frank Stetzer                        "…a cheerful comrade is better Employed by, but not speaking for     foot-warmer."  Henry Van Dyke, Univ of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, USA     "Fisherman’s Luck", 1899. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – When I was young, a teacher of mine read from a book about fly fishing on the Brule river in Wisconsin.  Wondering if anyone knows the name of that writer or the name of any of those books.   — jm

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When I was young, a teacher of mine read from a book about fly fishing on the Brule river in Wisconsin.  Wondering if anyone knows the name of that writer or the name of any of those books.   — jm

Its a good bet that it was Gordon MacQuarrie. Check out this book (info from http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1572230258/t/002-4166657-7704468) I got this book for Christmas and have read it twice already. Jim Fly Fishing With MacQuarrie by Zack Taylor, Gordon MacQuarrie List: $19.50 Our Price: $13.65 You Save: $5.85 (30%) Availability: This title usually ships within 2-3 days. Hardcover Published by Willow Creek Pr Dimensions (in inches): 0.97 x 10.26 x 7.23 ISBN: 1572230258 — Jim Jacoby Mt. Horeb, WI To send a reply, remove "-take_this_out-" from the address.

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When I was young, a teacher of mine read from a book about fly fishing on the Brule river in Wisconsin.  Wondering if anyone knows the name of that writer or the name of any of those books.  

Beats me!  I used to fish the brule a lot when I was a kid, and learned to flyfish there. To me it still stands as one of the most beautiful trout rivers on this planet – absolutely gorgeous.   I don’t reacll anyone writng about it at length.  There has been an article or two, and honorable mentions in guidebooks. It was in it’s time VERY popular nationally.  Teddy Roosevelt fished the Cedar Island water.  Calvin Coolidge liked the Brule so much they named the hwy that follows it south from US 2 after him.  Dwight Eisenhower had friends with a house at the lower end of Big Lake, and fished there often. I suspect that many other notables fished there too. If there is a book out there that speaks of the Brule, I’d love to find a copy. BTW:  what prompted this teacher to use that book.  Why did it stick with you?  have you ever been there?  A thread on the Brule would be a pleasant diversion – I do have a story or two of my own about her. </chaz

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Perhaps we had the same teacher.  My fourth grade teacher read me "Rascal", by Sterling North.   This is a heart-rendering book set in Southern Wisconsin, during the 1910’s, about a boy and his pet racoon.  Part of the book relates the wonderful trip that Sterling and Rascal had to northern Wisconsin, much of it along the Brule.  I recently read the book to my children and they love the story as much as I did then and still do now.  A definite top ten book in my life.

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Thanks for the help from folks.  To answer Chaz’s questions.  I think he read from it because he loved fishing.  I think I remember it because it sounded like such a great place and it was in Wisconsin.   My question was prompted because I work at Wisc Public Television and we are working on a show about fishing in Wisconsin for Aug 99 and the Brule will be featured in the show.   jm – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – BTW:  what prompted this teacher to use that book.  Why did it stick with you?  have you ever been there?  A thread on the Brule would be a pleasant diversion – I do have a story or two of my own about her. </chaz

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gordon MacQuarrie stories, published in the 40’s and 50’s in outdoor magazines, were collected in 3 volumes as "Stories of the Old Duck Hunters", "More Stories of the ODHs" and (I think) "Last Stories of the ODHs".  About half the stories are hunting, half are fishing, mainly on the Brule.  Then there was a fourth volume, "Lost Stories of the ODH", which was stuff they missed the first time thru. Gordon MacQuarrie is my favorite fishing author.  Traver and Gierach and others get as good occasionally, but every MacQuarrie story is excellent.  Henry VanDyke is a close second. Frank Stetzer                        "…a cheerful comrade is better Employed by, but not speaking for     foot-warmer."  Henry Van Dyke, Univ of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, USA     "Fisherman’s Luck", 1899. When I was young, a teacher of mine read from a book about fly fishing on the Brule river in Wisconsin.  Wondering if anyone knows the name of that writer or the name of any of those books. — jm

This is my first post in a NG.  Absolutely, yessir, right on, AMEN. MacQuarrie is without peer.  Every one of his short stories a classic. I fished the Bois Brule in Northwestern WI (not to be confused with the "Border Brule" in Upper Michigan) for the first time last summer.  It was just great visiting the places MacQuarrie mentions in his writings.  It was like visiting an old friend.  I will be back again this year.  Then maybe someday the Roaring Fork and Frying Pan in CO and maybe someday the Yellowstone area with all the great spots out there.   Then maybe ….?

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<snip   My question was prompted because I work at Wisc Public Television and we are working on a show about fishing in Wisconsin for Aug 99 and the Brule will be featured in the show.   jm

Kewl! If you have any say in what gets filmed take a look at the water around Cedar Island.  Used be a resort/lodge – lately owned by the Ordway family.  Classic, beautiful trout water.  I used to sneak into the lower end when I was a kid, and fish my brains out. Teddy Rooselvelt fished there.  Stories tell that before teddy arrived, the folks at the hatchery downriver in Brule netted out a bunch of big brood fish they usually kept in a big pool, put them in one of the rearing runs and starved them for a couple days.  The day before The Man arrived at Cedar Island they turned these hungry monsters loose in a side channel with pools the lodge owners had dug for their guests.  The President would be assured of "good fishing". Another good run would be just below Big Lake.  Wildcat Rapids.  There’s no public access to this water except by canoe, so it won’t be real crowded.  This was my favorite stretch as a kid.  The Caretaker for one of the properties there was a friend of my Grandpa’s and would let us in when the owners weren’t around.  I’d give my eyeteeth to get back in there, I can tell you.  In fact there could be an angle here – local boy returns to his favorite water after 30 years – hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm – pay my way out and I’ll talk to my agent;-).  After we’re done filming, we’ll ditch the camera ops and I’ll take you over to the White. And I’d love to see your show. </chaz

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This is a copy of a press release about a Wisconsin fishing program in current production.  If you have stories or if you know great story tellers, we’d like to see and hear it.  Get your hands on a video camera and follow the instructions below.  Thanks.   xxx :-  xxx :-  xxx :-  xxx :-  xxx :-  xxx :-  xxx :-  xxx :- xxx :-  xxx :-  

FISH TALES SOUGHT FOR Wisconsin Public Television SPECIAL         It’s been said that every angler has a great story to tell, and Wisconsin Public Television wants to hear yours!         WPT is preparing a special on fishing in Wisconsin that will air in August 1999.  As part of the effort, we’re seeking fish stories from anglers all over Wisconsin.         "We’re looking for all kinds of tales," says producer JoAnne Garrett. "Not just the stories about the biggest fish or the longest struggle, although we’d like those, too.  We also want to hear about how fishing helped form family bonds and family memories, stories about fishing that touch the heart."         Tale spinners with humorous stories also are sought.         Stories should be documented on VHS tape with a video camera.  Send tapes to: Fish Tales, c/o JoAnne Garrett, Wisconsin Public Television, 821 University Ave., Madison WI 53706.  Deadline is Sept. 1.  If you want your tape returned, please enclose a self-addressed, stamped envelope. Jon Miskowski Wisconsin Public Television

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Looking for a fly shop or resource for current fishing information about the St. Mary’s River, particularly information regarding Fall steelhead. Twice now, I have been to the river and both times the gates were wide open making the river unfishable.  Thanks in advance.

Local guides and clubs are identified in:  Linsenman, Bob, and Steve Nevala  Great Lakes Steelhead: a Guided Tour for Fly Anglers  Backcountry Pubs., Woodstock Vt. 1995 This information will not help you when the dam gates are open. — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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Looking for a fly shop or resource for current fishing information about the St. Mary’s River, particularly information regarding Fall steelhead. Twice now, I have been to the river and both times the gates were wide open making the river unfishable.  Thanks in advance. Jim Francois Stillwater, MN

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I propose the following actions in response to SPAM showing with increasing frequency in this group:  1. Immediately after spotting SPAM, mail to the spammer a big piece of     email.         Subject matter should be the same as the one in SPAM.       The bigger the piece the better.  If you are on UNIX, keep handy a       core dump file. (Mine is 10Mb.)  At some point, spammer’s net       provider may notice heavy traffic and disk usage.  Plugs have been       pulled on people using too much of provider’s resources.  2. If spammer objects, keep sending the piece.  3. Call spammer’s provider.  4. Under NO circumstances post followups to SPAM in the group!         Any followup to SPAM is bad.  But the worst are the ones that       include the copy of the original SPAM.  Vent your splean by       writing the spammer.  Use harsh language. -AR

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I wrote earlier: I propose the following actions in response to SPAM showing with increasing frequency in this group: 1. Immediately after spotting SPAM, mail to the spammer a big piece of    email.   …

A nice way to inflict pain on a spammer is to forward to him his own spam.  If each of us does it several times, he might find his mailbox stuffed with his own, well, spam.  Cheers,  -AR

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hunt them down and kill them TimW (Just kidding, SPAMMERS *DESERVE* to live in a world with spammers)

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Beat them to death with your #5 rod, and turn it in on warrantee when it breaks?   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – hunt them down and kill them TimW (Just kidding, SPAMMERS *DESERVE* to live in a world with spammers)

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A nice way to inflict pain on a spammer is to forward to him his own spam.  If each of us does it several times, he might find his mailbox stuffed with his own, well, spam.  Cheers,  -AR

Somebody posted a gif of a can of Spam one one of the newsgroups. I always attach that to the reply just in case they don’t get it<g. Charlie…

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Rychter) writes: A nice way to inflict pain on a spammer is to forward to him his own spam.  If each of us does it several times, he might find his mailbox stuffed with his own, well, spam.  Cheers,  -AR

I’ve been sending copies of the original spam to the spammer  and to the postmaster of the system for some time now.  You’d be amazed how many of those I get back because the spammer is using a re-mailer and spamming anonymously.  You can often successfully send a complaint to the postmaster by finding the line that says "Message-ID" in the header and I’m for burning them at the steak 8^  (ok, stake if you must)                                   Dan Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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I’m for burning them at the steak 8^  (ok, stake if you must)                                   Dan Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools

I’m with you only if we can burn them in front of their families and other spammers. — "The true Angler is content to fish alone" Brian Di Carlo

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This weekend I will be staying 4 days in Acadia/Bar Harbor, Maine and I have no idea where to flyfish, and what is being used. Please help.  I am not familiar with the area, and I will not have a boat.  Just a pole, me and my waders..the way I like it best. Mac

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Hi There, I fish that area of Maine a lot during the summer, but I have a boat.  You might try Long Pond, just outside Somesville.  It’s a beautiful lake with landlocked salmon and smallmouth bass.  You can rent canoes there too so you can actually get out on the water.  The bass take surface poppers during the early hours in the summer.  You might try in the middle of the lake in what’s called the "narrows" between the Eastern and Western arms.   You also might want to try fishing for smallmouth on the Union River, just north of Ellsworth.  I’ve never fished the river, but the lake (Graham) is pretty good.   If you want to go farther afield, you can try the Penobscot north of Bangor.  There are plenty of places to get down to the river.  The fishing will be mostly for smallmouth bass.The ride is about an hour and a quarter from Bar Harbor.   Hope this helps. Mac Rubel

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This weekend I will be staying 4 days in Acadia/Bar Harbor, Maine and I have no idea where to flyfish, and what is being used. Please help.  I am not familiar with the area, and I will not have a boat.  Just a pole, me and my waders..the way I like it best. Mac

Mac, In the park, try upper and lower breakneck ponds and witch hole pond. Also, bubble pond can be waded but I’ve never had much luck there.  I know of no good streams in the area.  If you find any please let me know.  Good luck, Rick

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This weekend I will be staying 4 days in Acadia/Bar Harbor, Maine and I have no idea where to flyfish, and what is being used. Please help.  I am not familiar with the area, and I will not have a boat.  Just a pole, me and my waders..the way I like it best. Mac Many ponds in the park although I don’t know if they are Open or not.I

think all ponds in Maine are open until the end of Oct. but I am not sure of this.If you are serious about getting some good fishing in you gotta get to the Kennebec River.About 2 hours from Bar Harbor. The Fairfield Area is a good base of operation.Stop by Flyfishing Only and ask Mike whats working.This area has Browns,Rainbows,Brookies and Salmon. Downriver from Fairfield about 20 miles is Augusta and I understand the Stripers are really hot right now.Just fish anywhere below the Edwards Dam. Good Luck

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – This weekend I will be staying 4 days in Acadia/Bar Harbor, Maine and I have no idea where to flyfish, and what is being used. Please help.  I am not familiar with the area, and I will not have a boat.  Just a pole, me and my waders..the way I like it best. Mac Many ponds in the park although I don’t know if they are Open or not.I think all ponds in Maine are open until the end of Oct. but I am not sure of this.If you are serious about getting some good fishing in you gotta get to the Kennebec River.About 2 hours from Bar Harbor. The Fairfield Area is a good base of operation.Stop by Flyfishing Only and ask Mike whats working.This area has Browns,Rainbows,Brookies and Salmon. Downriver from Fairfield about 20 miles is Augusta and I understand the Stripers are really hot right now.Just fish anywhere below the Edwards Dam. Good Luck

You might look for the book: "The Downeast Guide to the Lakes and Ponds of Mt. Desert" by William P. Newlin.  ISBN 0-89272-270-3  Downeast BooksP.O. box 679, Camden, ME 04843.  Best luck fishing.

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I know nothing about fly fishing or tying, but own a bead business and have recently begun to get inquiries about beads suitable for use in tying flies. I’d be most appreciative of any info you could pass my way–are beads often used in tying flies? Any book suggestions? Please email me. Thanks! Barry Kahn — web site:  http://caravanbeads.com Caravan Beads Inc 449 Forest Ave Portland, ME 04101 207-761-2503 fax: 207-874-2664

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -I know nothing about fly fishing or tying, but own a bead business and have recently begun to get inquiries about beads suitable for use in tying flies. I’d be most appreciative of any info you could pass my way–are beads often used in tying flies? Any book suggestions? Please email me. Thanks! Barry Kahn — web site:  http://caravanbeads.com Caravan Beads Inc 449 Forest Ave Portland, ME 04101 207-761-2503 fax: 207-874-2664

Hi Barry, Beads are added to flies used under the water’s surface. This practice has been around for years but regained popularity several years ago. Bead sizes vary from about 3/32" to about 3/16". By the way, are you a bead distributor or retailor? Tight Lines Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products Bozeman, MT (96 catalog)

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