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1996 Astro 15 footer 90 HP mercury outboard motorguide RF trolling motor custom cover custom trailor.                                $7995.00 Call Tom Bauer 1-908-686-2800

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Hi Guys, I just started coming to this news group in addition to the fly fishing newsgroups I subscribe to.  I was once such a hard core bass fisherman that I never went fishing without my boat.  Now I do both stream and lake fishing with my first love being fishing for bass and preferably with a fly rod. Being on this group is great!  However, I am surprised at the amount of advertising showing up here.  Is this a valid forum for advertising your used fishing gear? Pete

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I believe personal gear is ok.  Trying to pass off comercial for personal is a no no. Brian – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Guys, I just started coming to this news group in addition to the fly fishing newsgroups I subscribe to.  I was once such a hard core bass fisherman that I never went fishing without my boat.  Now I do both stream and lake fishing with my first love being fishing for bass and preferably with a fly rod. Being on this group is great!  However, I am surprised at the amount of advertising showing up here.  Is this a valid forum for advertising your used fishing gear? Pete 1996 Astro 15 footer 90 HP mercury outboard motorguide RF trolling motor custom cover custom trailor.                                $7995.00 Call Tom Bauer 1-908-686-2800

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The Guidelines allows posting of personal advertisements, as long as the subject specifies ‘For Sale.’ — Go fishing. And may your fish be as big as your tales!    Columbia SC, Lake Murray

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Thanks. Pete

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______ The prettiest Western Dry Fly in all the world.  I don’t know about Eastern opinions on this but  I suppose it would have to be the Light Cahill or Hendrickson?  I love them all, really.  I love dry flies, period. I wish some of you would start submitting your signature fly to our "Flies of the World" web site listed below.  See Mike Connor’s examples.  Don’t any of you eastern boys know how to tie a dry fly for christ sake?  You guys have only one good fly tier their, I think and his name is George Harvey.  I thought he taught fly tying out that way in Pennsylvania and about?  You DO know what a dry fly is in North Carolina now, don’t you boys?  They sure don’t, in Arkansas. ; ) George *twitch —

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Hi – I’m looking for an inexpensive 3 wt rod for occasional use for panfish and trout small enough to not need my normal 5 wt. rod. Cabela’s has a Greenwood combo, with rod, reel and line for under $100. Granted, at that price I’m not expecting tremendous quality, but price is a limiting factor right now, and I’ve never heard much about Cabela’s rods. Anyone ever cast or have any experience with this rod? Get the Three Forks combo. It’s even cheaper, and it’s a fabulous value. —

I agree wholeheartedly!  I got this combo in July and I’m very pleased with it. Bill  (:=[ ]  open wide something bogus to avoid spam)

– Bill D.  (:=[ ]  open wide

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Years of being a gear slave has taught me that some very nice rods can hide in the strangest places.  A buddy got a drugstore rod for $50 that is actually a lot of fun.  Generally, though, you get what you pay for, one way or the other.  Warranties, for instance.  Spend $125 or so and go St Croix, Reddington Redd Start  or some others and get a lifetime replacement warranty.  I don’t know about Cabella’s but for a $50 rod it would be surprising.  Also: just because it is a 3-wt rod, made of Graphite XXII or whatever, doesn’t mean it was well-designed or casts worth a poop.  Good engineering really does tell. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi – I’m looking for an inexpensive 3 wt rod for occasional use for panfish and trout small enough to not need my normal 5 wt. rod. Cabela’s has a Greenwood combo, with rod, reel and line for under $100. Granted, at that price I’m not expecting tremendous quality, but price is a limiting factor right now, and I’ve never heard much about Cabela’s rods. Anyone ever cast or have any experience with this rod? TIA, Sam

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Years of being a gear slave has taught me that some very nice rods can hide in the strangest places.  A buddy got a drugstore rod for $50 that is actually a lot of fun.  Generally, though, you get what you pay for, one way or the other.  Warranties, for instance.  Spend $125 or so and go St Croix, Reddington Redd Start  or some others and get a lifetime replacement warranty.  I don’t know about Cabella’s but for a $50 rod it would be surprising.  Also: just because it is a 3-wt rod, made of Graphite XXII or whatever, doesn’t mean it was well-designed or casts worth a poop.  Good engineering really does tell. Hi – I’m looking for an inexpensive 3 wt rod for occasional use for panfish and trout small enough to not need my normal 5 wt. rod. Cabela’s has a Greenwood combo, with rod, reel and line for under $100. Granted, at that price I’m not expecting tremendous quality, but price is a limiting factor right now, and I’ve never heard much about Cabela’s rods. Anyone ever cast or have any experience with this rod? TIA, Sam

    I have a Cabelas 3 forks 3wt 3piece combo (rod,reel,line, and leader) costs on sale $50.00. the reel is a bit large being for a 5 to 7 wt. and the line supplied could be better. I’ve had it to NC for trout twice, use it a good bit for panfish and small bass here and it has never let me down. Believe me a big crappie or 14" large mouth on a three weight is a hoot. When it comes to someone who needs to watch the bucks but wants to get into fly fishing for panfish and smallish trout I always recommend this combo. The alternative is the loss of another fly fisherman. By the way I made a tube for it out of a window blind cardboard tube and is a constant compannion.                                                            John Popp                                                          in Sanford Fl.

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Hi – I’m looking for an inexpensive 3 wt rod for occasional use for panfish and trout small enough to not need my normal 5 wt. rod. Cabela’s has a Greenwood combo, with rod, reel and line for under $100. Granted, at that price I’m not expecting tremendous quality, but price is a limiting factor right now, and I’ve never heard much about Cabela’s rods. Anyone ever cast or have any experience with this rod? TIA, Sam

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Hi – I’m looking for an inexpensive 3 wt rod for occasional use for panfish and trout small enough to not need my normal 5 wt. rod. Cabela’s has a Greenwood combo, with rod, reel and line for under $100. Granted, at that price I’m not expecting tremendous quality, but price is a limiting factor right now, and I’ve never heard much about Cabela’s rods. Anyone ever cast or have any experience with this rod?

Get the Three Forks combo. It’s even cheaper, and it’s a fabulous value. — something bogus to avoid spam)

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Hi, I’d agree.  My buddy has the 7′6" 3 forks combo and really likes the rod.  I think its around $50 for rod, reel, backing, line, and a leader.  He basically threw away the reel, line, backing, and leader (which are of pretty poor quality… but what do you expect?) and ended up with just a $50 rod, but really likes it. Good luck. Tom – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Get the Three Forks combo. It’s even cheaper, and it’s a fabulous value. — something bogus to avoid spam)

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Hi – I’m looking for an inexpensive 3 wt rod for occasional use for panfish and trout small enough to not need my normal 5 wt. rod. Cabela’s has a Greenwood combo, with rod, reel and line for under $100. Granted, at that price I’m not expecting tremendous quality, but price is a limiting factor right now, and I’ve never heard much about Cabela’s rods. Anyone ever cast or have any experience with this rod? TIA, Sam

  I have a cabelas 3wt 6′6". Whole shebang (line reel rod) is now on designed for including some right nice sized rainbows (up to but not yet inclusive of 4lbs) 3 hand size (10" long) panfish and a couple of bass over 11".A real blast on these size fish. It’s the three forks combo model 763, order #tx-31-1504-763. I can tell you it is a great rod within it’s limits, the reel is a 567 so a bit large but is extremely light (graphite). I don’t think you can beat it for bang/buck buying.                                                     John Popp                                                   in Sanford Fl.

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Thanks to everyone for the replies. It sounds unanimous – Three Forks it is! And for even less money than I had intended to spend… Sam – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi – I’m looking for an inexpensive 3 wt rod for occasional use for panfish and trout small enough to not need my normal 5 wt. rod. Cabela’s has a Greenwood combo, with rod, reel and line for under $100. Granted, at that price I’m not expecting tremendous quality, but price is a limiting factor right now, and I’ve never heard much about Cabela’s rods. Anyone ever cast or have any experience with this rod? TIA, Sam  I have a cabelas 3wt 6′6". Whole shebang (line reel rod) is now on designed for including some right nice sized rainbows (up to but not yet inclusive of 4lbs) 3 hand size (10" long) panfish and a couple of bass over 11".A real blast on these size fish. It’s the three forks combo model 763, order #tx-31-1504-763. I can tell you it is a great rod within it’s limits, the reel is a 567 so a bit large but is extremely light (graphite). I don’t think you can beat it for bang/buck buying.                                                    John Popp                                                  in Sanford Fl.

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I am looking for a source of soft hackle for size #18,16,14 flies.  The ruffed grouse and hangarian standard breast hackle I have are two long. It would be nice to have a naturally barred brown/tan feather but I would settle for a hen neck, preferably barred, and preferrably dyed.   Does anyone have a suggestion? JK

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Try www.blueribbonflies.com/   They usually have a great many quail and partridge soft hackle skins. Ralph Wood C & R Guide Service www.wildtrout.com/

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John Kaufmann schrieb in Nachricht I am looking for a source of soft hackle for size #18,16,14 flies.  The ruffed grouse and hangarian standard breast hackle I have are two long. It would be nice to have a naturally barred brown/tan feather but I would settle for a hen neck, preferably barred, and preferrably dyed. Does anyone have a suggestion? JK

Hi John, There is a strain of dwarf partridges commonly kept by people who have aviaries. Their hackles are perfect for small soft hackles. They are not quite as robust as the normal partridge hackles, but they make great wet flies. There is also a strain of quail with similar feathers. Ask around at your local poultry or bird fanciers association, once they realise you are serious about it, it will literally rain dead birds !  Dont say I didnt warn you ! <G Just about the only other alternative is to look for freak coloured hen necks and dye them yourself. The game bird feathers are better though. Tight lines ! Mike Connor

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Look here: http://expage.com/page/tyesupplies

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0] : I am looking for a source of soft hackle for size #18,16,14 flies.  The : ruffed grouse and hangarian standard breast hackle I have are two long. : It would be nice to have a naturally barred brown/tan feather but I would : settle for a hen neck, preferably barred, and preferrably dyed.   : Does anyone have a suggestion? : JK There is a technique shown in Dave Hughes’ book "Wet Flies" for using larger hackle when there is no alternative. You tie in and wrap the hackle at a position down the shank that is the amount the fibers are too long. Then you fold the fibers forward toward the eye and close wrap them with thread up to the position you would normaly tie the hackle. Then you fold the fibers back and wrap in front of them to stand them up and tie off. It’s less than ideal, the fibers are a little stiffish in relation to the size of the fly, but it will get you fishing with something in that size. Another suggestion is to get a whole partridge skin including the neck whose feathers are around the sizes you want. The ones I’ve seen lately run around $25. Poking around fly shops in my area, I have found these small "speckled hen" backs in quite a variety of natural grays and brown. I think they come from India, but I’m not sure. There are some fairly small feathers on these that are ok for #18. Mike — Michael McGuire                     Hewlett Packard Laboratories  (remove x’s from email if not      Palo Alto, CA 94303-0971   a spammer) Phone: (650)-857-5491              

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John, How bout stripping the (too long) hackle fibers off the quill and, holding them in your right hand, work them over the eye of the hook to where you want them, to the length you want, and wrapping them in with the thread in your left hand.  You don’t usually want a real heavy hackle on soft hackle flies anyhow, right? Takes a little practice, but it works.  I think it’s called ‘paint brush style’. See ya Will – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am looking for a source of soft hackle for size #18,16,14 flies.  The ruffed grouse and hangarian standard breast hackle I have are two long. It would be nice to have a naturally barred brown/tan feather but I would settle for a hen neck, preferably barred, and preferrably dyed. Does anyone have a suggestion? JK

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Red wigglers make great bait!  I’m selling red wiggler worms, for low

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Red wigglers make great bait!  I’m selling red wiggler worms, for low

You are really opening yourself up for a ton of abuse by putting  that on the flyfishing newsgroups — Gordon Churchill Flyfish NC http://www.planet-nc.com/flyfishnc/ hybrids on Jordan Lake, Striped Bass on Roanoke River Surface action on Largemouth bass in Harris Lake.

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I agree they are great. Especially when tied with beads and a tail so they look like a Bloodworm of the Tendipes familia which is what they are usually mistaken by trout. The San Juan Worm patterns do this ncely as well, are more durable and stink a whole lot less when you forget them in the car  . . . . . . — Bob Sheedy Angling Adventures North Lake Fly Fishing On-Line Magazine Home of MASTER ANGLER Fishing Software http://www.articfire.com/arcfire/fishing.htm

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Hi, Does anyone know if the area near the Slide Inn on the Madison River is becoming multi-channel again, or is it just a large rushing river. Thanks, Bob

Hi Bob I’m basing this answer on two observations: When I drove by that section of river a couple of days ago of course it was running one large river due to run off. Last fall when I fished the area there were channels. What the river will look like after run-off this year is yet to be seen. If you want to monitor the stream flows on the Madison you can click on "weather & water" on my web site. Take care & … — Tight Lines ….. Al Beatty BT’s Fly Fishing Products On line catalog – tips & tricks at: http://www.btsflyfishing.com

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Hi, Does anyone know if the area near the Slide Inn on the Madison River is becoming multi-channel again, or is it just a large rushing river. Thanks, Bob

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OK, so I’m not a purist!  Can you top this one though. I was fishing with my father-in-law at a friends two acre pond for bass and bluegill.  Now this was the cleanest lake you ever did see due to the huge carp that had been placed in there many years ago.  The pond owner was very proud of his carp, some being as much as 3 feet long, and always made sure he told us that he didn’t have to warn us not to catch his carp because they were way to smart to be caught.  Many had tried yet all had failed. C’mon, enough with the carp as I stand here with my flyrod in hand.  I didn’t care anything at all about catching his carp!  Well…  as I stood on the bank stripping line and watching the carp cruise near the surface slurping in leaves that had hopelessly fallen into the pond I got an idea. I quickly brought in my fly and reached up and grabbed a leaf off the nearest tree and broke it in half and threaded my fly on to it.  Picking the largest carp, about three feet long, I cast the leaf about six feet in front of it and well… you can guess the rest.  Wow!  Was that fun.  My father-in law said I was crazy, yet, I have caught him more than once picking leaves off trees and threading them on when the fishing was slow and the carp were on the prowl.  I’ve caught half a dozen myself now.  It takes a specific variety of leaf though.  Havn’t told my father-in law that part yet!  TOP THAT!

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Last year I was FF at Harper’s Ferry.  I caught and reeled in a 5 LB catfish that was dead!  Then an hour later I caught another 5 lb catfish (this one was alive).  Thanks for your story.  I’m sure others will top this! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – OK, so I’m not a purist!  Can you top this one though. I was fishing with my father-in-law at a friends two acre pond for bass and bluegill.  Now this was the cleanest lake you ever did see due to the huge carp that had been placed in there many years ago.  The pond owner was very proud of his carp, some being as much as 3 feet long, and always made sure he told us that he didn’t have to warn us not to catch his carp because they were way to smart to be caught.  Many had tried yet all had failed. C’mon, enough with the carp as I stand here with my flyrod in hand.  I didn’t care anything at all about catching his carp!  Well…  as I stood on the bank stripping line and watching the carp cruise near the surface slurping in leaves that had hopelessly fallen into the pond I got an idea. I quickly brought in my fly and reached up and grabbed a leaf off the nearest tree and broke it in half and threaded my fly on to it.  Picking the largest carp, about three feet long, I cast the leaf about six feet in front of it and well… you can guess the rest.  Wow!  Was that fun.  My father-in law said I was crazy, yet, I have caught him more than once picking leaves off trees and threading them on when the fishing was slow and the carp were on the prowl.  I’ve caught half a dozen myself now.  It takes a specific variety of leaf though.  Havn’t told my father-in law that part yet!  TOP THAT!

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -OK, so I’m not a purist!  Can you top this one though. I was fishing with my father-in-law at a friends two acre pond for bass and bluegill.  Now this was the cleanest lake you ever did see due to the huge carp that had been placed in there many years ago.  The pond owner was very proud of his carp, some being as much as 3 feet long, and always made sure he told us that he didn’t have to warn us not to catch his carp because they were way to smart to be caught.  Many had tried yet all had failed. C’mon, enough with the carp as I stand here with my flyrod in hand.  I didn’t care anything at all about catching his carp!  Well…  as I stood on the bank stripping line and watching the carp cruise near the surface slurping in leaves that had hopelessly fallen into the pond I got an idea. I quickly brought in my fly and reached up and grabbed a leaf off the nearest tree and broke it in half and threaded my fly on to it.  Picking the largest carp, about three feet long, I cast the leaf about six feet in front of it and well… you can guess the rest.  Wow!  Was that fun.  My father-in law said I was crazy, yet, I have caught him more than once picking leaves off trees and threading them on when the fishing was slow and the carp were on the prowl.  I’ve caught half a dozen myself now.  It takes a specific variety of leaf though.  Havn’t told my father-in law that part yet!  TOP THAT!

I believe I can… December 15th on the Kilchis River on the northern coast of Oregon. It’s 33 degrees and raining, a typical Oregon winters day.  A friend of mine and a couple of his brothers were fishing for Chinook.  Rick, being a guy that always likes a challenge, was using 12lb test.  Rick hooked a very large hen on a red corkie.  The fight was on.  Rick fought the fish for about 25 minutes when his line broke at the rod tip.  Thinking fast, Rick grabbed a rod from his brother and preceded to cast at the line trailing the fish that stayed in the pool.  He finally "snagged" the line and tied it to the "new" line.  Rick fought this fish for another 20 minutes.  Finally, in a last ditch effort on the fishes part, the fish barreled down river about 30 yards only to beach itself on a gravel bar midstream.  Now I wouldn’t have beleived this part if I wasn’t there to see it, but Rick jumped into the water fully clothed, swam to the gravel bar and dove onto the fish just as it was about to slip back into the water.  The fish weighed out at 56lbs!  I think THAT TOPS IT! Bob Crossley

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 I’ve caught half a dozen myself now.  It takes a specific variety of leaf though.  Havn’t told my father-in law that part yet!  TOP THAT!

BAIT SLINGER!!!! hehe luv chipper

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snipped to fit: and the carp were on the prowl.  I’ve caught half a dozen myself now.  It takes a specific variety of leaf though.  Havn’t told my father-in law that part yet!  TOP THAT!

_______CARP love willow leaves.  Especially the ones with headaches. Mr. G. (In the Top Hat)

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: snipped to fit: : and the carp were on the prowl.  I’ve caught half a dozen myself now.  It : takes a specific variety of leaf though.  Havn’t told my father-in law : that : part yet!  TOP THAT! : : Just last night at a local Flyfishing club meeting, I heard the same thing from Jim Davidson who worte an article on flyfishing for carp in one of the magazines last year, He did the same thing with leaves of a different variety in our Olentangy River. When you do this, make sure put it right under the carp’s nose or he won’t take it. So somebody else has figured out the same trick!  ;-} — Jon Porter

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – snipped to fit: and the carp were on the prowl.  I’ve caught half a dozen myself now.  It takes a specific variety of leaf though.  Havn’t told my father-in law that part yet!  TOP THAT! _______CARP love willow leaves.  Especially the ones with headaches. Mr. G. (In the Top Hat)

Hmmm… Seems like a Hamills Killer fished as a dry would make a pretty good leaf imitation. Bruce….

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I can’t really top that, though I would add that I have caught several 7-8 lb carp on huckleberries when that’s what they were eating – kind of "match the hatch." This was on a heavy bass spinning outfit. I like your idea and will try this summer with flyrod.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Just tell him to get rid of it, and its chickenshit to treat a wild thing like that. If he threatens you walk out. Unless he plans on running for President, one chickenshit from Texas per decade is probably enough. Dave     "Darlene stood above the second box, praying hard.  Then she gradually moved her good hand and slid it under the larger of the two rattlesnakes in the box.  It was a mild October night, and the snake was alert.  At her touch, it peeled off a tight drumroll of rattles and withdrew its head sharply.  But it did not strike.  The texture of its skin against her palm reminded her of warm, dry varnish, and she remembered how good snakehandling could feel  Then she felt Glenn’s hold on her hair loosen.     ‘OK,’ he said.  His vice was hollow, perplexed.  ’I'm going to let you live since the Lord let you handle that one’  Glenn was impressed.  All drunk and mussed up, Darlene had just handled the meanest of all his snakes. It was like the best of times in church, when God turned the strike aside and you could just feel the victory all over you.  He hadn’t expected it that way.  For now, all the murder in him was gone.  He felt uncertain how to proceed.  In the end, he led her outside and walked her to the Chevy, even lending an arm for support.  They sat in the car, listening to the night-birds in the woods, and for a long time neither spoke. Darlene was beginning to feel real bad.  The pain around the bite was extreme, hot as a hob you’d whip your hand off if only you could.  The whole left had looked swollen now, the skin stretched in an unfamiliar way.  She felt nauseous and dizzy.  Shapes were appearing in front of her eyes, little glittery yellow lozenges that fluttered like falling leaves…" Nothin’ like that in "Weekly Reader", huh?         While "Katrina" is rubbing y’alls naughty parts, there are some interesting things going on in this world.  Read a book* or something some time. Wolfgang *"The Snakebite Survivor’s Club: Travels Among Serpents", Jeremy Seal, Harcourt, Inc., 1999, for example.

or… "feast of snakes", by harry crews; and, "Salvation on Sand Mountain: Snake Handling and Redemption in Southern Appalachia" by Dennis Covington.  or, simply attend one of the little clapboard-sided churches filled with pentecostals around triplett, nc (near boone)… jeff

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Just tell him to get rid of it, and its chickenshit to treat a wild thing like that. If he threatens you walk out. Unless he plans on running for President, one chickenshit from Texas per decade is probably enough. Dave

    "Darlene stood above the second box, praying hard.  Then she gradually moved her good hand and slid it under the larger of the two rattlesnakes in the box.  It was a mild October night, and the snake was alert.  At her touch, it peeled off a tight drumroll of rattles and withdrew its head sharply.  But it did not strike.  The texture of its skin against her palm reminded her of warm, dry varnish, and she remembered how good snakehandling could feel  Then she felt Glenn’s hold on her hair loosen.     ‘OK,’ he said.  His vice was hollow, perplexed.  ’I'm going to let you live since the Lord let you handle that one’  Glenn was impressed.  All drunk and mussed up, Darlene had just handled the meanest of all his snakes. It was like the best of times in church, when God turned the strike aside and you could just feel the victory all over you.  He hadn’t expected it that way.  For now, all the murder in him was gone.  He felt uncertain how to proceed.  In the end, he led her outside and walked her to the Chevy, even lending an arm for support.  They sat in the car, listening to the night-birds in the woods, and for a long time neither spoke. Darlene was beginning to feel real bad.  The pain around the bite was extreme, hot as a hob you’d whip your hand off if only you could.  The whole left had looked swollen now, the skin stretched in an unfamiliar way.  She felt nauseous and dizzy.  Shapes were appearing in front of her eyes, little glittery yellow lozenges that fluttered like falling leaves…" Nothin’ like that in "Weekly Reader", huh?         While "Katrina" is rubbing y’alls naughty parts, there are some interesting things going on in this world.  Read a book* or something some time. Wolfgang *"The Snakebite Survivor’s Club: Travels Among Serpents", Jeremy Seal, Harcourt, Inc., 1999, for example.

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I do ROFF for the books, man, the books. Bill who finished Heinrich and has moved on to The Race to Save the Lord God Bird… with a brief P. D. James break.  (and who needs an extension for his homework assignment….)

Well, young man, it’s high time you learned about responsibility.  There is NO acceptable excuse for lateness!  You’ve known about these assignments for months.  There will be no extension.  In fact, I think you can just add reviews of ALL THREE of those books to the list! Wolfgang yeah, i know, book reports……EEEEEEEWWWWWW!……too bad!      :(

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 I guess there’s something to be said for the urbanity of Atlanta after all.      

shitfire man, you ARE snakebit.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – *"The Snakebite Survivor’s Club: Travels Among Serpents", Jeremy Seal, Harcourt, Inc., 1999, for example. or… "feast of snakes", by harry crews; and, "Salvation on Sand Mountain: Snake Handling and Redemption in Southern Appalachia" by Dennis Covington. Dang…..never would have picked you for a herpetophile! or, simply attend one of the little clapboard-sided churches filled with pentecostals around triplett, nc (near boone)… All the churches I attended during my tenure south of the M/D line, while they served up bountiful victuals worthy of a seven star restaurant and leavened liberally with an apparently profound faith, failed to include rattlesnake either on the menu or in the service.  I guess there’s something to be said for the urbanity of Atlanta after all.       Wolfgang well shit, MORE additions to the "to be read" list.        :(

I do ROFF for the books, man, the books. Bill who finished Heinrich and has moved on to The Race to Save the Lord God Bird… with a brief P. D. James break.  (and who needs an extension for his homework assignment….)

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*"The Snakebite Survivor’s Club: Travels Among Serpents", Jeremy Seal, Harcourt, Inc., 1999, for example. or… "feast of snakes", by harry crews; and, "Salvation on Sand Mountain: Snake Handling and Redemption in Southern Appalachia" by Dennis Covington.

Dang…..never would have picked you for a herpetophile! or, simply attend one of the little clapboard-sided churches filled with pentecostals around triplett, nc (near

boone)… All the churches I attended during my tenure south of the M/D line, while they served up bountiful victuals worthy of a seven star restaurant and leavened liberally with an apparently profound faith, failed to include rattlesnake either on the menu or in the service.  I guess there’s something to be said for the urbanity of Atlanta after all.       Wolfgang well shit, MORE additions to the "to be read" list.        :(

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I need help and I don’t know where to go for the answer. Be kind! My husband found a rattlesnake while working outside San Antiono and he put this snake in a 5 gallon bucket with a lid and holes for air. The snake is now living in my garage and I don’t like it! I want to put the snake in the freezer so it doesn’t have to suffer any longer without my husband knowing. I don’t want a snanke any where near my kids. I poor snake has been in the bucket for over a month without food. How long will it take to "freeze" it ? It would be more humaine to kill it now instead of letting it suffer. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : I will soon begin receiving partridge, wood duck and pheasant skins from : friends hunting this fall. : What should I do to cure the skins without harming the feathers? It’s easy. Just takes a little time to do it right… 1. First, you want to strectch the skin out on a board (plywood works) so that the feathers are down under the skin. Pin it down with tacks or brads. The skin does not need to be drum tight, just so that it won’t wiggle around as you work on it. 2. Scrape off as much fat as possible with a dull knife or round edged scraper. With bird skins you need to be careful so that you don’t pull the skin apart in the process. Just get most of the fat. To much fat left on the skin gets into the feathers after a while. 3. Salt down the skin. Cover it under a layer of non-iodized table salt. (It is cheaper than iodized)  Many prefer to use borox instead. The trick here is to cover it completely just on the skin side. Let it sit for a day or two and then scrape it off and put on a fresh layer of salt. Do it again if you still see the salt pulling moisture out of the skin. 4. After about two weeks of the salt treatment, scrape off the final layer of salt removing all that you possibly can. I like to use a brush to completely remove the salt. Store the skins in ziplock bags or air tight boxes to keep the bugs out. Moth ball or cedar chips can help with that. I still have skins that I have salted from several years ago using this method. The feathers are still good. Jon Porter

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I need help and I don’t know where to go for the answer. Be kind! My husband found a rattlesnake while working outside San Antiono and he put this snake in a 5 gallon bucket with a lid and holes for air. The snake is now living in my garage and I don’t like it! I want to put the snake in the freezer so it doesn’t have to suffer any longer without my husband knowing. I don’t want a snanke any where near my kids. I poor snake has been in the bucket for over a month without food. How long will it take to "freeze" it ? It would be more humaine to kill it now instead of letting it suffer.

Just tell him to get rid of it, and its chickenshit to treat a wild thing like that. If he threatens you walk out. Unless he plans on running for President, one chickenshit from Texas per decade is probably enough. Dave

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I will soon begin receiving partridge, wood duck and pheasant skins from friends hunting this fall. What should I do to cure the skins without harming the feathers? Thanks, Tom Guntzel

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: I will soon begin receiving partridge, wood duck and pheasant skins from : friends hunting this fall. : What should I do to cure the skins without harming the feathers? It’s easy. Just takes a little time to do it right… 1. First, you want to strectch the skin out on a board (plywood works) so that the feathers are down under the skin. Pin it down with tacks or brads. The skin does not need to be drum tight, just so that it won’t wiggle around as you work on it. 2. Scrape off as much fat as possible with a dull knife or round edged scraper. With bird skins you need to be careful so that you don’t pull the skin apart in the process. Just get most of the fat. To much fat left on the skin gets into the feathers after a while. 3. Salt down the skin. Cover it under a layer of non-iodized table salt. (It is cheaper than iodized)  Many prefer to use borox instead. The trick here is to cover it completely just on the skin side. Let it sit for a day or two and then scrape it off and put on a fresh layer of salt. Do it again if you still see the salt pulling moisture out of the skin. 4. After about two weeks of the salt treatment, scrape off the final layer of salt removing all that you possibly can. I like to use a brush to completely remove the salt. Store the skins in ziplock bags or air tight boxes to keep the bugs out. Moth ball or cedar chips can help with that. I still have skins that I have salted from several years ago using this method. The feathers are still good. Jon Porter

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I will soon begin receiving partridge, wood duck and pheasant skins from friends hunting this fall. What should I do to cure the skins without harming the feathers? Thanks, Tom Guntzel

I usualy stretch the skin on a piece of plywood and apply table salt to it. A lot of it, cover the whole skin thoroughly. I then let it sit there for 10 to 15 days. I let the skin dry in the sun or somewhere warm for about one week. I make sur ethat there are no living bugs underneath th feathers by placing the skin in a bag with some moth balls or christals for about 5 to 7 days. Be careful with bird skins, they are very delicate when dried. Mike http://www.titan.qc.ca/moucheux

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writes: I will soon begin receiving partridge, wood duck and pheasant skins from friends hunting this fall. What should I do to cure the skins without harming the feathers?

Hi Tom, Here’s what I have done not only with bird skins but small animals and one large rattlesnake. First you want to remove as much fat from the skin as possible.  This is most efficiently and easily done by stretching the skin out and tacking it to a board (feathers down, skin up) and then by scraping the fat off with a smooth edged butter knife.  Don’t rush it and don’t worry about the small stuff that doesn’t want to come off.. Next take some rock salt, spread it over the skin, rub it in and then off of the skin.  This will remove more fat and with a couple of applications like this should have the skin fairly fat free. If you really want to get carried away you can use regular salt on the last application. Finally, cover with Borax and let it dry for at least a week, preferably two.  Brush off the residue of the Borax powder and store in zip lock bags.   The result will be a clean dry cured skin that is in better shape than the stuff you buy in the stores.  It will also smell much better because there is no fat left on the hide to turn rancid.  Skins cured in this manner will last indefinitely as long as you protect them from insect infestation (keeping them in zip lock bags).  I still have a rattlesnake skin I cured with this method in 1970 and a number of bird skins from the early 1980’s.a  But then of course, I keep everything because you never can tell when you’re going to need that particular material for a top secret fly.   ;^                                      Hope this helps,                                              Dan PS I didn’t use the rattlesnake skin for fly tying.  Too noisy – afraid I’d scare the fish away. Dan Gracia                                                               Orvis West Coast Fly Fishing Schools If you kill that big fish you can’t catch ‘em again.  So what if they eat other fish?  If you kill the big ones there will only be little ones left (funny how that works!).

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: PS I didn’t use the rattlesnake skin for fly tying.  Too noisy – afraid : I’d scare the fish away. Shoot…. They put rattles in LURES to ATTRACT the fish!  <g  I think that is you and I put our heads together, we could come up with a fly using those rattles!  <g Jon Porter

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In my limited experience (one pheasant skin), rubbing hand lotion into the skin after it’s been dried makes it a lot less brittle. Andy Lamborne

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : I will soon begin receiving partridge, wood duck and pheasant skins from : friends hunting this fall. : What should I do to cure the skins without harming the feathers? It’s easy. Just takes a little time to do it right… 1. First, you want to strectch the skin out on a board (plywood works) so that the feathers are down under the skin. Pin it down with tacks or brads. The skin does not need to be drum tight, just so that it won’t wiggle around as you work on it. 2. Scrape off as much fat as possible with a dull knife or round edged scraper. With bird skins you need to be careful so that you don’t pull the skin apart in the process. Just get most of the fat. To much fat left on the skin gets into the feathers after a while. 3. Salt down the skin. Cover it under a layer of non-iodized table salt. (It is cheaper than iodized)  Many prefer to use borox instead. The trick here is to cover it completely just on the skin side. Let it sit for a day or two and then scrape it off and put on a fresh layer of salt. Do it again if you still see the salt pulling moisture out of the skin. 4. After about two weeks of the salt treatment, scrape off the final layer of salt removing all that you possibly can. I like to use a brush to completely remove the salt. Store the skins in ziplock bags or air tight boxes to keep the bugs out. Moth ball or cedar chips can help with that. I still have skins that I have salted from several years ago using this method. The feathers are still good. Jon Porter

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I have been to the shop in Dutch John many times as well as the one on the West side of the dam.  Both are full service shops with everything you need.  The dutch john one is closed though during the winter.  We were up there in November and it had been closed for the season, so be aware of that also.  I’m not sure when it reopens.

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Barry, There really isn’t a flyshop in Dutch John.  The closest thing to it is the combination gas station/general store/restaurant there in town.  It has very little in the way of fly fishing supplies.  You better count on bringing your own supplies and equipment.  However, if you are hiring a guide, the guides up there are usually pretty well equipped to meet your fly fishing needs.  I would check with them first before you go.

There is actually a very adequet fly shop at the Flaming Gorge Lodge complex about half way between Red Canyon Lodge and the river.

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HAS ANYBODY BEEN TO THIS LODGE???? HOW CLOSE IS IT TO THE GREEN RIVER??? ,AND FINALLY CAN YOU RECOMMEND A GOOD FLY SHOP IN DUTCH JOHN ,UTAH

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I was just in Dutch John and at the Flaming Gorge Lodge, just past the dam, which is as complete a fly shop as one could want to find at such a location. they got the flies and the advice (supplimented by the dozen or so people milling about).  nice place

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Barry,   I was at the Red Canyon Lodge last October.  It is a nice place with friendly people and a pretty good restaurant.  They have two types of places to stay while there.  One is the deluxe cabin – nice and comfy. The other is call the rustic cabin. I wouldn’t recommend the rustics unless it is summertime (they have only a wood stove for heating and they share a common bathhouse – it can get cold up there).  There is also a couple of lakes on the property that you can fish in. The lodge is about 10 to 15 minutes from the closest access on the Green, which happens to be below the dam.  The next closest location which is known as "little hole" is another 15 minutes beyond that. There really isn’t a flyshop in Dutch John.  The closest thing to it is the combination gas station/general store/restaurant there in town.  It has very little in the way of fly fishing supplies.  You better count on bringing your own supplies and equipment.  However, if you are hiring a guide, the guides up there are usually pretty well equipped to meet your fly fishing needs.  I would check with them first before you go. Anyway good luck and tight lines. Terry

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To whom it may concern:     I want to fish the Genesee River in Rochester, NY but was told I need to get slinkys otherwise conventional split shot will forever hangup.  Can anyone provide me with some solid information on what I need to make these.

     The "formula" for slinkies is something like the following (sometimes I make them; sometimes I buy them – I’m an amature at this):      You start with hollow nylon cord.  Strong cord is called parachute cord, but you can also find this in any hardware/Kmart/etc. as drapery cord.  I also got some from the camping section.  It is a woven nylon cord with another nylon string/cord inside.  You start by cutting it somewhere and extracting the inside cord, leaving a hollow core.      You need a small butane lihgter for the next steps.  the cord is cut into small lengths, ranging from 2 to 4" in length.  Take the butane lighter, heat one end of a strip to the melting point and close it.  You can use a piece of paper or cardboard to do this and prevent small burns and nylon sticking to your fingers.      Then you fill the tube with split shot, using size 6’s or 8’s.  The little tubes will take about 4, and the big tubes will take up to 8 or so.  In this manner, you will be able to adjust the weight you use, depending on the current where you are fishing.      The next step, of course, is to close the tube.  You push the spli shots down close to each other, against the closed end, and then you heat the other end.  Repeat the process for closing it up.      You can buy equipment and lay it all out (cut pieces, split shot, lighter, etc.), and make slinkies on a "production" basis – just like tying up 2 dozen flies of the same kind.      I suppose the next question will be how to attach them to your leader?

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writes:     You can buy equipment and lay it all out (cut pieces, split shot, lighter, etc.), and make slinkies on a "production" basis – just like tying up 2 dozen flies of the same kind.     I suppose the next question will be how to attach them to your

leader? I find it interesting what people will do just to say they are flyfishing.  There is a  perfect rig for this outfit, it is called spinning. Ernie Harrison

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To whom it may concern:     I want to fish the Genesee River in Rochester, NY but was told I need to get slinkys otherwise conventional split shot will forever hangup.  Can anyone provide me with some solid information on what I need to make these.

If you’re not losing hooks and lead on the bottom, you are not trying hard enough. A simple way to go deep is to double a short length of nylon over your leader (with one shot to hold it in place) and add as many shots as you need to get the depth.  When they hang, with luck they will slide off the end and you’ll get most of your terminal tackle back. — |  Donald Phillipson, 4180 Boundary Road, Carlsbad Springs,  | |        Ontario, Canada, K0A 1K0, tel. 613 822 0734         |

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To whom it may concern:     I want to fish the Genesee River in Rochester, NY but was told I need to get slinkys otherwise conventional split shot will forever hangup.  Can anyone provide me with some solid information on what I need to make these.    I was told parachute cord and buckshot.  I bought both and neither fit. Pls be as detailed as possible and it would be a big help if you could in- dicat where one could get some of the materials.

  Unless you’re into S&M, slinkys and flycasting don’t mix.     A better bet is to make small "mini heads" out of lead core trolling line. Cut the leadcore into several six and twelve inch segments. Whip a loop onto each end of these segments. You can now loop these to the end of your leader in any combination you please. To make an thirty inch head loop two twelve’s and six incher together and so on. Tie the tippet directly to the terminal loop of your head.    The result is a relatively easy mess to cast that will get you *down* and doesn’t tend to hang up. Excellent system when fishing surf on rocky coast lines where every cast gets wrapped in crud.    Tight lines and open loops, Ralph

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You can buy "Quick Kits" that include the cord, pre-stuffed with shot. Contact: Scott Eno, P.O. Box 373, N. Syracuse, NY 13212.  In some tackle shops, his one ounce kit sells for $6.95.  If you should decide to buy the shot and cord separately, I urge you NOT to cut the cord to length before stuffing the shot into them.  Do what Scott Eno has done: stuff the entire cord with shot (one end sealed with a lighter/candle) then just cut and singe to the size you desire.  Cutting the cord first leads to wasted cord as it readily unravels when you stuff the shot in.

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To whom it may concern:     I want to fish the Genesee River in Rochester, NY but was told I need to get slinkys otherwise conventional split shot will forever hangup.  Can anyone provide me with some solid information on what I need to make these.    I was told parachute cord and buckshot.  I bought both and neither fit. Pls be as detailed as possible and it would be a big help if you could in- dicat where one could get some of the materials. Thanks, Bob Lyons

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Bob, in CA we take green paracute cord and singe the end with a match. Then stuff with BBs or other shot to desired weight and singe the remaining end.    Clip this onto a snap swivel to place on your line ahead of the lure or bait.  I never heard of this for fly fishing but it is popular with bait fisherman in salmon and steelhead water. To whom it may concern:     I want to fish the Genesee River in Rochester, NY but was told I need to get slinkys otherwise conventional split shot will forever hangup.  Can anyone provide me with some solid information on what I need to make these.    I was told parachute cord and buckshot.  I bought both and neither fit. Pls be as detailed as possible and it would be a big help if you could in- dicat where one could get some of the materials. Thanks, Bob Lyons

– Tim Ackerman "Everyone Lives Downstream"

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